Testing the top speed of the Himiway Cruiser and verifying if it is accurate with a GPS speedometer. i also show my wheel size setting and try different settings.
I'm not one who doubted you! You are giving some of the best ebike reviews on ytube.....Thanks. I bought a Himiway step through due to arrive some time April based in large part on your info. Much appreciated.
I just watched the news and the Suez canal is blocked. There's also some good video's on you tube where people are waiting for months already. Not trying to jinx you, but it's probably going to take longer to get your bike. I'm also looking. Good luck
@@frankd.brennan6520 Shouldn't affect this...China is a straight shot across the Pacific from California. I have seen the late delivery complaints. I'm not in too much of a hurry other than me just wanting to get my hands on it and go play! Kinda rolled the dice because this is the bike I wanted after a lot of research. Hope it's not broke and hope it get's here within reason.
I did put a 52t chainring on it snd now you can maintain 30 mph until you run out of battery without spinning out or running out of breath, love my bike, best mod for cruising at a fun pace
Thanks for always providing us with a comprehensive and thorough review. Your efforts are greatly appreciated. I have the Delfast top 2.0, but I’m very impressed with the Himiway.
I bought my Cruiser about 1 1/2 months ago. I wanted to ride the State Parks riding trails mostly. I'm 67 and weigh 260 lbs, also hoped to use bike as a weight loss aid. I've got 130 miles on it and only charged the battery once (bar graph only down 1 bar). I love the peddle assist to get started, then just use the gears to ride. Average speed in the woods is only 3-5 mph . I have ridden my cruiser around the local blocks to practice speeds and gearing. I could only get the speed up to 31 mph (remember, I weigh 260 lbs and I'm 67) It's fun, I's well built, great exercise, economical) I've added a cell phone holder and a 1000 kw 3 bulb light for night riding. (yep, the included headlight is more than adequate for street riding). I recommend the Cruiser for those that can handle the 73 lb bike weight. A GREAT CHOICE !! John
Thanks for commenting John. Sounds like you are really enjoying that bike and I'm glad to see you are customizing it to your liking. Enjoying ride safe!
Sir, you are a gentleman. Whomever doubted you, you have proven on you tube that your info is indeed what you said you said it is. I believe before you demonstrated your findings. Less not worry about the disbelievers for there are many, Which don't believe their eyes. Most of the public is just like me. We believe what is right. There are many in your audience who believe in you and also need your insights. I just bought a 2022 Zebra form Himiway. I need your instructions. Keep doing what you do, Sir!
OK had to go back and review this again. I got my Himi Cruiser in April. Out of the box 22mph. Went into advanced settings, speed number was 45. I use the speedometer, a phone app, GPS-Speedo and recently a street nearby has speed warnings with radar flashing your speed. 28 mph motor cuts out. You can hear it, feel it and know it. Phone app. is accurate tested with car. Hoping soon that, a speed upgrade from Bolton, or another player. Also perhaps Himi will let us Unlock our power at own risk. Brian excellent work as always. Yes 28 mph. is plenty fast, but it's nice to know you have a few more bullets in the chamber. 10 mph. bump is significant to pay 250-300 dollars to Bolton for this speed upgrade. I usually cruise around in PAS 4 and Mech gear 5 or 6. 15mph and does not draw much power according to display. Anybody got a solution? Ride ON!
My Himiway has been up to 34.7 mph, recorded on my phones GPS. I wasn’t even trying tbh, flat road, speed limit was 35. Wish I could attach a screenshot here as proof. My Himiway PAS is set to 0-9 and I was on PAS 5, full throttle wasn’t pedaling very hard at all. I didn’t realize how fast I was going but realized no cars were passing me and I looked down at the speedo which said 35. Agree that you should turn down the PAS settings otherwise it can easily get away from you if you aren’t paying attention. Keep up the good work sir!
Bought a Himiway Cruiser, took about a month or so from order to delivery. Packaging was good, no issues with shipping. Definitely a Chinese supported company, with emails coming in the middle of the night, but people have been friendly and helpful. Initial assembly and quality is good. Took it for a quick spin at night down a sidewalk, worked fine. I haven't had the time to take it on a proper run, but so far I've had zero complaint about what I purchased. I did take off the fenders, because I don't like the look, and am considering replacing the wheels to get rid of the goofy light-up strips on the tires, but I get that commuters may like that, as well as the fenders. Himiway also WAY OVER-BRANDED the bike, with Himiway labels everywhere which is obnoxious so I'll de-brand it at some point but I have no issues so far and knew all this going into it. Happy with my purchase.
UPDATE TO THIS VIDEO: I just received this bike a few days ago, and the current version of the bike from the factory tops out with throttle-only on a flat surface at 28 MPH (45 kph). The speed limit setting can only be set up to 45 probably because of videos like this that scared the pants off the manufacturer I am sure (imagine the liability if someone got killed going 35 MPH when it's not supposed to go over 22 MPH, the default). There is no way to make it go faster other than pedaling like crazy or going down a steep hill, and given the motor literally cuts out at 28 MPH now, I highly doubt you could pedal it faster than 30 MPH on a flat run unless you are an Olympic athlete or something like that. Sorry if you wanted to get the speeds in this video, but unless you can get a unit with the old firmware or reflash a new one with it, those days are over for a factory unit. I also wouldn't be surprised if they change the firmware again in the next year to remove the speed limit setting altogether (and it will only go 22 MPH if they do) because 28 MPH with the throttle actually changes the class of the bike and, technically, makes it illegal in the United States. Even if they did limit it to 22 MPH, though, the acceleration and uphill performance are both far greater than the RadRover's (which I own too). Also, RadRovers' top throttle-only speed is only 20 MPH.
I changed my tire size to 700 to closely match my GPS. At size 27", my miles riden after 20 mole ride was off 1.5 mi. At 700, I'm within a tenth of a mile after same 20 mi. ride.
@@fatguy2697 I’m 260 and i go 20 miles and come back with more than 1/2 battery left, it takes me places I wouldn’t even think about it, go for it you won’t regret it
yeah, this is the bike for bigger dudes! I’m 6’ 2” and 250 with no problem going all over. Only thing now is Himiway governed the power output to 45 instead of 99. so over 28.6 is not happening...so far. but 28mph is fast enough
Good video. Appreciate all the effort you put into this. This Hemiway certainly beats my pre-mod out-of-the-box Rad in top end speed. I wish there was an effective way to measure the 0-20 speed as both the GPS and bike spedo lag behind the actual speed by a second or two. You really notice the lag when you stop abruptly and watch the speed fall to zero on both a second or two later.
Right now this bike is beating my post-mod rad in top speed. Even with the double motors, this himiway is still faster than my heavily modified rad. The rad would absolutely destroy it with zero to 30 acceleration though. And that's what I find the most fun The 0 to 30 acceleration
FYI on Himiway, I am in the process of buying 2 bikes from them. The bikes are shipping from the US to Canada where I live. They charge a flat rate of 50usd let bike to ship to Canada. That is an amazing deal! Was looking at another ebike from California that my wife loves the look of. I'm not kidding that the shipping rate, "confirmed" is $1,099.00 USD😳 Time will tell if it all works out with Himiway, but at this point it's looking like an amazing value.
The GPS lags, but the Himiway over reports speed by 2-3 mph if you leave the wheel size setting at 26. I had to set my wheel size lower (24) to get an accurate mph that matched GPS. I also confirmed the GPS is accurate by comparing it to my car speedometer.
Great Review, Exact findings I have and I am 100lbs heavier than you! Go Figure! Oh yes My Settings might be wrong, My Himiway goes 43 MPH. Thanks Brian.....
I wondered the same thing about my Cruiser as well in regards to speed accuracy and then found your video. First off I love the bike and it does have more power than any of the ones my friends have with ebikes. However, I was skeptical about accuracy. The odometer is of course directly linked to speed as the data is calculated the same way. Meaning, if your speedometer is off then so would your odometer be and visa versa as there is a direct correlation between the two. So I did the research myself. I took a 10 km route ( I'm in Canada) and mapped it out on Google and then 1st rode it on my Himiway, then on my old bike with at Cateye bike computer, and then on my wife's fancy ebike she bought in a bike shop (paid twice what I did ) and looked at the results. Well the wife's bike and the CatEye were very similar and showed very close to the 10km. However the Himiway showed 12.6km. That would mean it is off by around 26%. Since km vs miles is just a unit of measure, the percentage wouldn't change unless Himiway did some weird internal programming thing. In other words when you think you're going 35 mph, you're actually only going about 27.5 mph. Not disputing your results or your video as it just got me thinking, and you did a great job. Just wanted to put in my two cents, and as you mentioned do my research. Still love the power of the bike, but as per the speedometer it is definitely off from my findings. I was skeptical after a long ride with some friends when we compared distances rode and I was way higher than the rest of them. Larry
So the real lesson here for me is that the Himiway is nearly identical performance-wise as a RadRover with a motor/controller/display upgrade. So basically you get a hopped up Rad for about $570 less with Himiway.
Hello there I've been looking at ebikes and right now the Himiway Escape is the same prize as the rad rover. I really like the way the himiway escape looks. Even though the Himiway is on sale should I decide to go with the Rad Rover or take my chances with the Himiway?
@@CitizenCycle925 what's the spec of the controller in this thing? If it is keeping up the true 750w powered rad with 35 amp controller then it must be pushing decent amps too....
The Himiway bikes that they sell now can only be bumped up to 45 on the speed setting screen. Top speed now on a new one is now 28MPH. The bike has been wussified.
Just my opinion: the speedo looks like it is a little fast. And increasing wheel diameter seemed like made it worse, which kind of makes sense because a larger wheel would cover more ground with each revolution. Side note, I also have a himiway cruiser and 7th spins the cranks too fast at 30mph. That’s probably just a measure of my own fitness though. Thanks for great videos. You really helped out when deciding which bike to get.
Best I could do was 34 but I'm 6 foot 250 lbs and 70, but felt like a hamster on a wheel.😂 I also have changed the freewheel to 11X34 and the front sprocket to 52t oval...👍😎
My Himiway does 34 my biktrix ultra is around 37. For best cruising efficiency ive found the himiway in pas 3 at 20mph gives me 60 miles. Ive tried lower assist going 15 and its not as good. Weird huh
There is a rate of change lag for GPS, but I'm not sure that impacts overall accuracy regarding top speed. It might be conservative if the lag is causing it to miss out the top end for split second or something though...
You need to change your pedal assist to a 0 for first assist instead of a 1. That'll give you FULL THROTTLE. I'm buying this bike. After watching your vid I'm DEFINITELY buying this bike! One question. How long does it take to charge battery from say 20%? And how many miles could you go at top speed?? I'm new to Ebikes. Is Himiway a top of the line product at $1600?
Don't quote me but I think set to 40 volts your controller isn't set for a 48 volt battery. I'd research that setting. Batteries actually hold more charge than advertised. A 48 volt battery actually charges to about 52 volts. A 52 volt charges to 58.8. I have to assume that 40 must be the max charge of a 36 volt battery. You may be able to get that speed reading more accurate by moving the magnetic sensor further up the spoke (closer to the rim & farther from the hub).
Can you comment on the possibility of using the same front hub kit to DIY on the himiway? I think it would help with hills and acceleration. Love your videos...will be buying the cruiser for me and the step thorough for my wife....I totally want to do what you did to your rad, thinking the himiway is a better starting point, don't need to do the controller for example, or motor. Again, would really appreciate your general input.
Mine was off a bunch GPS said I went 10 miles and the display would say I went 13 or so. I would ride next to my wife and my speed was 3 or 4 MPH faster. Changed to a smaller size tire on the display and that did the trick. Both bikes were set up the same when we started.
How would you Himiway owners rate the customer service for these bikes I'm considering getting one but I've heard the customer service is not good. So i want you owners feedback on the customer service so i can decide whether or not to order the bike
I just got mine, and aside from the month wait, I'm happy with the experience. I asked how to remove the rear wheel and CS replied with an email and a recorded video to show how. This is very likely a Chinese company but it's a good value for what you pay, given the performance seen by multiple reviewers.
I think Himiway may have changed their settings in the program, I have been reading that people have started to have trouble with the settings. I don't care, I just placed MY order for a Cruiser, and I'm excited.
@@CitizenCycle925 what you did was more of a hack to the program, it allowed you to change the bike class, I think they may have changed that. My group is "True Himiway Owners Group" and they will LOVE you, check them out. I guess you would get a few subs. as a starting TH-camr I know that's a thing
@@Michael._The_Storyteller Have you confirmed this? I was getting very close to ordering a himiway but not being able to change the settings might be a deal breaker for me..
@@jaredmaly5161 Confirmed ? No. it's just what I have been reading, and to be clear, you still can change settings, if anything it may be to keep the bike in the law. there are no 'class' stickers on the bike, so ? but you could probably find a firmware hack to still get the job done. also, imho this is the best E-bike for the money.
@@jaredmaly5161 I just got my cruiser and can't adjust above 45 mph in the program.(the old program allowed up to 99) I was able to get to 27-28 mph. Not bad
Came across this after buying the new Zebra. Seems it has the same controller and display as the 2021 models. However, after adjusting the settings to max, can’t seem to get it over 25-26 mph. Did they add a level in the PLC to limit the limiter?
The web site says 28'' wheel diameter but the factory setting is 26''. Could that be the discrepancy for speed? I used mine for the first time today and thought they capped the new ones at 28mph but the speedometer was 30-31 on throttle. If I adjust to 28'' wheel diameter it will probably be right about 28mph, no?
I don't know what the Peak Wattage is either. For some reason, that's been very hard to find on this one. Anyway, I do agree that mine seems to indicate the same. I think 750 is nominal. I'm a lot heavier than you, but I have seen 30 on my sp indicator, so there's that... It's powerful enough that I'm waiting on a set of Hydraulic Calipers to arrive before I unlock it all the way.
Regarding safety, 35 mph is too fast on a bicycle. However, I just had to check top speed on my new e-bike. After that, I reset the maximum speed from 72 kph back to 32 for class 2 and 45 for class 3. Weight, wind and grade significantly affect speed. I did my test off-road, no wind on level ground. It took about 30 seconds to reach 35 mph on my CSC e-bike. E-bikes are way too much fun! I think the Hemiway is slightly more powerful than the CSC, but it makes no difference when riding at legal speeds. I then raised the handlebars and the more upright position reduced top speed by 2 or 3 mph.
I wrote this on another vid hoping You would see it and comment. Today riding My Himiway, high bar style, with wind at My back , fully charged battery , peddle assist at 5 and in 7th gear , on flat bike lane I hit 48 MPH before I backed off the throttle - - Wow was I flying - - Couldn't believe it.
@@CitizenCycle925 It is strictly a Stock Himiway Cruiser. I had a strong wind at My back but yeah it was crazy. As I'm flying along I thought of You wishing I had a camera filming it. I went 30 miles and dropped one bar on the battery !! On the way home I was into those strong winds. Yes I do peddle the bike hard. My legs could not even keep up with the 40+++ MPH. I've put 1,500 miles on it to this point. It never ran that fast before.
I was stuck between getting a Himiway or Biktrix Stunner X. I think I’ve decided on the Stunner X Custom with Maguire Magura quad piston Brakes. Since your driven the Stunner,do you think $400 is over kill /& price for the upgraded brakes and then go for the bigger battery? I want the battery for distance more then get there faster. Thanks for your input
If you had to choose an upgrade I'd go with the battery over the brakes. The stock hydraulic brakes on the center X are plenty strong, but it's up to you whatever you feel you need more
Just got mine about a month ago. Mine is the Black Cruiser. The top speed for me is around 25 mph. Sorry... I think they changed the top speed. for 2021. Also LS will only go to 40.
Great video. I really think that it does not matter how fast the bike goes, its just that if it is too fast and powerful you are only supposed to ride them off-road only. Or just dont get caught speeding on interstate 95 lol
I just purchased one of these bikes and received it 3/23/21 all these functions I could set per my specifications except for the speed limiter , could only raise it to 45 . Is this because I have a newer bike or because there may be another step I need to perform
I'm not aware of any other steps, mine will go all the way up to like a hundred. Maybe they changed that in the computer recently..? I mean I just got this bike in February so I would think it'd be the same.
I was reading in the comments about someone saying that the new models might not go as fast and that maybe wouldn't be able to change too speed settings. Do you think that is true?
@@CitizenCycle925 well that's still 27mph. I just ordered one for $1600. I take it you're in Canada. I really hate when stuff gets updated. Why can't we be held responsible for our own actions. That's like making a car that only goes 40mph!
You get a bigger better battery and drive train i think is a step up from the Rad wich I learned after I ordered my Rad . but I don't have any real complaints about my Rad !but I would be lived to save $100 for a better battery alone . just sayin !👍
I could only get my LS number up to 45 it won’t go up to 99 like yours does. Did himiway change the settings and can I change it to the settings like your
I think they just started limiting that setting... Bunch of people have said that. Mine goes to 99 but I don't think the computer or motor recognizes anything over 45 anyway. How fast can you pedal it?
@@CitizenCycle925 I got it up too 31 mph so far. Yeah my luck they would change it or maybe cause I live in NYC they said oh hell no we have to change it LOL. But anyway thanks for responding I appreciate it your videos it what convinced me to get a himiway instead of the rad rover Keep up the good work and videos very informative for people like me. 👍😎
I can get my Himiway cruiser up to 34 down hill going as hard as I can. I weigh 205 lbs. But then again, I only get 23 miles on a charge peddling most of the time on full peddle assist. My numbers don't add up to any of you guys. Still love the bike though. Better than a Rover.
Of course the speedometer is off if the bike has 29" tires and you enter 26" in the configuration. It uses the diameter of the wheel to calculate the speed.
@@CitizenCycle925 That's because 26", 28", 700, 29" are rather classifications than the exact diameter. E.G. 26" and 28 are the diameters of the rim. But the tires on that rim can still have heights and those affect the diameter. So the manufacturere of Speedometers have to work with estimations. 29" usually means its a 28" rim with an extra wide tire like they are used on mountain bikes. The diameter also changes over the time when the tire gets worn. So speedometer never are 100% correct. The tires of the himiway are tires for a 26" rim, but they are extremely wide and high. So they might be in between 28" and 29". Beside that there is also a legal reason. Ussually the purpose of a speedometer is tthat the driver can avoid to go faster than ist allowed. So they are allowed to show a higher speed than you really go. but no lower speed than you really go. You dont want to get a ticket for driving too fast because your speedometer showed a lower speed.
Hey there! FANTASTIC VIDEOS YOU MAKE!!! So I have a question. On my himiway, the speed limit setting maxes out at 45, not 90 like all the others ones I seen. Am I doing something wrong?? I followed all your settings to a T, and it only maxes out at 45!! Help!!
How fast does yours go set at the 45 mark? I talked with Himiway today and told them about that. They said 45 would be the max power. Can you do 30 on throttle only?
@@DrewHaughton thanks for the reply. It looks like any Himi shipped in or after February 2021 the settings were changed from 99 to 45..not all that important but why can't they just leave it alone. I'm having enough trouble trying to decide on a bike
Hi, how come my max speed setting only goes to 45 & not 99 like your?? I got my Himiway cruiser 2weeks ago. Did they reprogram them not to go to 99 mph anymore?? Thanks
Yes, that is correct. This video is the older version. Mine tops at 28 too because I bought it at the end of May (and just received it a few days ago).
Hey the people that said you were lying' and the Himiway couldn't go that fast" are the soy eating latte drinking millennials that don't have any physical strength 2 paddle a heavy bike' they're forgetting that your a real man on a Himiway not a girly man!🤦♂️🤣😂😅✌👋🍻
Time with these people we both know cuddling of pedal bike was good torque and speed and good leg string can make it go faster than what they say is supposed to go stop answering these these people that just don't try or understand that's how it works
@@CitizenCycle925 All it does is use juice You want going to Your motor. It actually dims Your screen for night riding. The screen is brighter with headlight off.
Really I'm surprised at this. I just got this bike in February... That's a bummer. I wish the the programming was wide open on all these bikes so you could set to whatever you want.
I'm not one who doubted you! You are giving some of the best ebike reviews on ytube.....Thanks. I bought a Himiway step through due to arrive some time April based in large part on your info. Much appreciated.
I second that !!!
I just watched the news and the Suez canal is blocked. There's also some good video's on you tube where people are waiting for months already. Not trying to jinx you, but it's probably going to take longer to get your bike. I'm also looking. Good luck
@@frankd.brennan6520 Shouldn't affect this...China is a straight shot across the Pacific from California. I have seen the late delivery complaints. I'm not in too much of a hurry other than me just wanting to get my hands on it and go play! Kinda rolled the dice because this is the bike I wanted after a lot of research. Hope it's not broke and hope it get's here within reason.
I did put a 52t chainring on it snd now you can maintain 30 mph until you run out of battery without spinning out or running out of breath, love my bike, best mod for cruising at a fun pace
That thing’s a beast 💨 We didn’t doubt for a sec it could break 35
Hear you breathing hard, proves you can get a workout on a ebike 💪
Thanks for always providing us with a comprehensive and thorough review. Your efforts are greatly appreciated. I have the Delfast top 2.0, but I’m very impressed with the Himiway.
That delfast looks sick!
I bought my Cruiser about 1 1/2 months ago. I wanted to ride the State Parks riding trails mostly. I'm 67 and weigh 260 lbs, also hoped to use bike as a weight loss aid. I've got 130 miles on it and only charged the battery once (bar graph only down 1 bar). I love the peddle assist to get started, then just use the gears to ride. Average speed in the woods is only 3-5 mph . I have ridden my cruiser around the local blocks to practice speeds and gearing. I could only get the speed up to 31 mph (remember, I weigh 260 lbs and I'm 67) It's fun, I's well built, great exercise, economical) I've added a cell phone holder and a 1000 kw 3 bulb light for night riding. (yep, the included headlight is more than adequate for street riding). I recommend the Cruiser for those that can handle the 73 lb bike weight. A GREAT CHOICE !! John
Thanks for commenting John. Sounds like you are really enjoying that bike and I'm glad to see you are customizing it to your liking. Enjoying ride safe!
Sir, you are a gentleman. Whomever doubted you, you have proven on you tube that your info is indeed what you said you said it is. I believe before you demonstrated your findings. Less not worry about the disbelievers for there are many, Which don't believe their eyes. Most of the public is just like me. We believe what is right. There are many in your audience who believe in you and also need your insights. I just bought a 2022 Zebra form Himiway. I need your instructions. Keep doing what you do, Sir!
thanks LBillie, its a bummer that the Himiway cruisers are now limited on top speed... How is the Zebra?
OK had to go back and review this again. I got my Himi Cruiser in April. Out of the box 22mph.
Went into advanced settings, speed number was 45. I use the speedometer, a phone app, GPS-Speedo and
recently a street nearby has speed warnings with radar flashing your speed. 28 mph motor cuts out.
You can hear it, feel it and know it. Phone app. is accurate tested with car. Hoping soon that, a speed upgrade from Bolton, or another player. Also perhaps Himi will let us Unlock our power at own risk. Brian excellent work as always. Yes 28 mph. is plenty fast, but it's nice to know you have a few more bullets in the chamber. 10 mph. bump is significant to pay 250-300 dollars to Bolton for this speed upgrade. I usually cruise around in PAS 4 and Mech gear 5 or 6. 15mph and does not draw much power according to display. Anybody got a solution? Ride ON!
Love your videos. Bought my cruiser back in 21 and not sorry. Thanks 😊
My Himiway has been up to 34.7 mph, recorded on my phones GPS. I wasn’t even trying tbh, flat road, speed limit was 35. Wish I could attach a screenshot here as proof. My Himiway PAS is set to 0-9 and I was on PAS 5, full throttle wasn’t pedaling very hard at all. I didn’t realize how fast I was going but realized no cars were passing me and I looked down at the speedo which said 35. Agree that you should turn down the PAS settings otherwise it can easily get away from you if you aren’t paying attention.
Keep up the good work sir!
Don't worry Rick I believe you haha 😆
Bought a Himiway Cruiser, took about a month or so from order to delivery. Packaging was good, no issues with shipping. Definitely a Chinese supported company, with emails coming in the middle of the night, but people have been friendly and helpful. Initial assembly and quality is good. Took it for a quick spin at night down a sidewalk, worked fine. I haven't had the time to take it on a proper run, but so far I've had zero complaint about what I purchased. I did take off the fenders, because I don't like the look, and am considering replacing the wheels to get rid of the goofy light-up strips on the tires, but I get that commuters may like that, as well as the fenders. Himiway also WAY OVER-BRANDED the bike, with Himiway labels everywhere which is obnoxious so I'll de-brand it at some point but I have no issues so far and knew all this going into it. Happy with my purchase.
UPDATE TO THIS VIDEO:
I just received this bike a few days ago, and the current version of the bike from the factory tops out with throttle-only on a flat surface at 28 MPH (45 kph). The speed limit setting can only be set up to 45 probably because of videos like this that scared the pants off the manufacturer I am sure (imagine the liability if someone got killed going 35 MPH when it's not supposed to go over 22 MPH, the default). There is no way to make it go faster other than pedaling like crazy or going down a steep hill, and given the motor literally cuts out at 28 MPH now, I highly doubt you could pedal it faster than 30 MPH on a flat run unless you are an Olympic athlete or something like that. Sorry if you wanted to get the speeds in this video, but unless you can get a unit with the old firmware or reflash a new one with it, those days are over for a factory unit. I also wouldn't be surprised if they change the firmware again in the next year to remove the speed limit setting altogether (and it will only go 22 MPH if they do) because 28 MPH with the throttle actually changes the class of the bike and, technically, makes it illegal in the United States. Even if they did limit it to 22 MPH, though, the acceleration and uphill performance are both far greater than the RadRover's (which I own too). Also, RadRovers' top throttle-only speed is only 20 MPH.
This isn't true information. Class 3 ebikes are legal in the United States. Rad Rovers (all Rad Power Bikes) throttle only, will go up to 24.6mph.
awesome bike.wouldnt worry what people say
I changed my tire size to 700 to closely match my GPS. At size 27", my miles riden after 20 mole ride was off 1.5 mi. At 700, I'm within a tenth of a mile after same 20 mi. ride.
As long as mine's somewhat close to accurate it's fine with me.
I've only had 26" wheels with 4 inch tire bikes and I always set to 28". It seems spot on with GPS. I can't say for other size wheels and tires.
I pedaled mine on flat ground 33 miles an hour and I weigh 250 lb
Big man on the move! 😂
Mike.perry would you recommend this bike I am 280lbs how many miles can this get me to you think easy riding
@@fatguy2697 I’m 260 and i go 20 miles and come back with more than 1/2 battery left, it takes me places I wouldn’t even think about it, go for it you won’t regret it
yeah, this is the bike for bigger dudes! I’m 6’ 2” and 250 with no problem going all over. Only thing now is Himiway governed the power output to 45 instead of 99. so over 28.6 is not happening...so far. but 28mph is fast enough
@@CitizenCycle925 lol😂
Good video. Appreciate all the effort you put into this. This Hemiway certainly beats my pre-mod out-of-the-box Rad in top end speed. I wish there was an effective way to measure the 0-20 speed as both the GPS and bike spedo lag behind the actual speed by a second or two. You really notice the lag when you stop abruptly and watch the speed fall to zero on both a second or two later.
Right now this bike is beating my post-mod rad in top speed. Even with the double motors, this himiway is still faster than my heavily modified rad. The rad would absolutely destroy it with zero to 30 acceleration though. And that's what I find the most fun The 0 to 30 acceleration
FYI on Himiway, I am in the process of buying 2 bikes from them. The bikes are shipping from the US to Canada where I live. They charge a flat rate of 50usd let bike to ship to Canada. That is an amazing deal! Was looking at another ebike from California that my wife loves the look of. I'm not kidding that the shipping rate, "confirmed" is $1,099.00 USD😳 Time will tell if it all works out with Himiway, but at this point it's looking like an amazing value.
Himiway Cruiser : A Natural Born Beast.
The GPS lags, but the Himiway over reports speed by 2-3 mph if you leave the wheel size setting at 26. I had to set my wheel size lower (24) to get an accurate mph that matched GPS. I also confirmed the GPS is accurate by comparing it to my car speedometer.
Great Review, Exact findings I have and I am 100lbs heavier than you! Go Figure! Oh yes My Settings might be wrong, My Himiway goes 43 MPH. Thanks Brian.....
I wondered the same thing about my Cruiser as well in regards to speed accuracy and then found your video. First off I love the bike and it does have more power than any of the ones my friends have with ebikes. However, I was skeptical about accuracy. The odometer is of course directly linked to speed as the data is calculated the same way. Meaning, if your speedometer is off then so would your odometer be and visa versa as there is a direct correlation between the two. So I did the research myself. I took a 10 km route ( I'm in Canada) and mapped it out on Google and then 1st rode it on my Himiway, then on my old bike with at Cateye bike computer, and then on my wife's fancy ebike she bought in a bike shop (paid twice what I did ) and looked at the results. Well the wife's bike and the CatEye were very similar and showed very close to the 10km. However the Himiway showed 12.6km. That would mean it is off by around 26%. Since km vs miles is just a unit of measure, the percentage wouldn't change unless Himiway did some weird internal programming thing. In other words when you think you're going 35 mph, you're actually only going about 27.5 mph.
Not disputing your results or your video as it just got me thinking, and you did a great job. Just wanted to put in my two cents, and as you mentioned do my research. Still love the power of the bike, but as per the speedometer it is definitely off from my findings. I was skeptical after a long ride with some friends when we compared distances rode and I was way higher than the rest of them.
Larry
So the real lesson here for me is that the Himiway is nearly identical performance-wise as a RadRover with a motor/controller/display upgrade. So basically you get a hopped up Rad for about $570 less with Himiway.
pretty much :)
Hello there I've been looking at ebikes and right now the Himiway Escape is the same prize as the rad rover. I really like the way the himiway escape looks. Even though the Himiway is on sale should I decide to go with the Rad Rover or take my chances with the Himiway?
@@CitizenCycle925 what's the spec of the controller in this thing? If it is keeping up the true 750w powered rad with 35 amp controller then it must be pushing decent amps too....
@@danimayb 25amp I believe
That’s kind of wild. I doubted it because I thought they had to limited.
They did but he changed it to 90 in the settings where the screen said LS
The Himiway bikes that they sell now can only be bumped up to 45 on the speed setting screen. Top speed now on a new one is now 28MPH. The bike has been wussified.
True...
Please someone come out with a controller or
Some type of upgrade that allows us to bump the power back up
@@berrymucuckiner4890 agreed and Yes PLEASE!
Just my opinion: the speedo looks like it is a little fast. And increasing wheel diameter seemed like made it worse, which kind of makes sense because a larger wheel would cover more ground with each revolution. Side note, I also have a himiway cruiser and 7th spins the cranks too fast at 30mph. That’s probably just a measure of my own fitness though. Thanks for great videos. You really helped out when deciding which bike to get.
Best I could do was 34 but I'm 6 foot 250 lbs and 70, but felt like a hamster on a wheel.😂 I also have changed the freewheel to 11X34 and the front sprocket to 52t oval...👍😎
Awesome dude!!! Way to go!!!
Thanks for the verification!!! Very much appreciated!!!!
Best Regards!!!
Sure thing 👍
You would know more than me, but, I noticed in that second run, the pedal assist was at 1….does that matter?
My Himiway does 34 my biktrix ultra is around 37. For best cruising efficiency ive found the himiway in pas 3 at 20mph gives me 60 miles. Ive tried lower assist going 15 and its not as good. Weird huh
Just ordered mine last week. Hell of a buy for 1499
Wishing you a speedy delivery. Seems like a pretty good bang for your buck. Hope it works out for you!
Can you provide the GPS app you are using. Love your posts. Good job
The phone has a delay in it, it’s working off a satellite. I would go with the speedo on board bike.
Exactly right.. there is not enough granularity in the GPS report.
There is a rate of change lag for GPS, but I'm not sure that impacts overall accuracy regarding top speed. It might be conservative if the lag is causing it to miss out the top end for split second or something though...
Get the local police to radar you.
@@billreed9479 FYI That would add 10mph to every speed check. JK
@@billreed9479 Still might be off by 10mph tho .....JK
Love your neighborhood!
You need to change your pedal assist to a 0 for first assist instead of a 1. That'll give you FULL THROTTLE. I'm buying this bike. After watching your vid I'm DEFINITELY buying this bike! One question. How long does it take to charge battery from say 20%? And how many miles could you go at top speed?? I'm new to Ebikes. Is Himiway a top of the line product at $1600?
yes top notch I love mine 4 days and 130 miles on it takes about 3hrs on a half charged battery
Don't quote me but I think set to 40 volts your controller isn't set for a 48 volt battery. I'd research that setting. Batteries actually hold more charge than advertised. A 48 volt battery actually charges to about 52 volts. A 52 volt charges to 58.8. I have to assume that 40 must be the max charge of a 36 volt battery.
You may be able to get that speed reading more accurate by moving the magnetic sensor further up the spoke (closer to the rim & farther from the hub).
Can you comment on the possibility of using the same front hub kit to DIY on the himiway? I think it would help with hills and acceleration. Love your videos...will be buying the cruiser for me and the step thorough for my wife....I totally want to do what you did to your rad, thinking the himiway is a better starting point, don't need to do the controller for example, or motor. Again, would really appreciate your general input.
Mine was off a bunch GPS said I went 10 miles and the display would say I went 13 or so. I would ride next to my wife and my speed was 3 or 4 MPH faster. Changed to a smaller size tire on the display and that did the trick. Both bikes were set up the same when we started.
Good Job!!!! I'm late to the party it's still a party'
I've noticed these max out in class 2 stock settings at 22 MPH, which is ~10% over the 20 MPH supposed limit. Is the odometer off too?
What GPS app are you using. I need a good one for my phone. Thank you and great video sir
Yes i was down hill wind to my back 35 mph but i went back at a solid 22 mph with little effort very happy !
I saw the bike speedo flash 39 & 40 MPH during Your first run !!!!!!
That's the bike I'm going to get when I get done unloading some stuff on craigslist 😊
How would you Himiway owners rate the customer service for these bikes I'm considering getting one but I've heard the customer service is not good.
So i want you owners feedback on the customer service so i can decide whether or not to order the bike
I just got mine, and aside from the month wait, I'm happy with the experience. I asked how to remove the rear wheel and CS replied with an email and a recorded video to show how. This is very likely a Chinese company but it's a good value for what you pay, given the performance seen by multiple reviewers.
I think Himiway may have changed their settings in the program,
I have been reading that people have started to have trouble with the settings.
I don't care, I just placed MY order for a Cruiser, and I'm excited.
What troubles?
@@CitizenCycle925
what you did was more of a hack to the program, it allowed you to change the bike class, I think they may have changed that.
My group is "True Himiway Owners Group"
and they will LOVE you, check them out.
I guess you would get a few subs.
as a starting TH-camr I know that's a thing
@@Michael._The_Storyteller Have you confirmed this? I was getting very close to ordering a himiway but not being able to change the settings might be a deal breaker for me..
@@jaredmaly5161
Confirmed ? No.
it's just what I have been reading,
and to be clear, you still can change settings, if anything it may be to keep the bike in the law. there are no 'class' stickers on the bike, so ?
but you could probably find a firmware hack to still get the job done.
also, imho this is the best E-bike for the money.
@@jaredmaly5161 I just got my cruiser and can't adjust above 45 mph in the program.(the old program allowed up to 99) I was able to get to 27-28 mph. Not bad
750 watt motors peak at 1500 watts at full power for a bit. so 750 is stable riding and 1500 at full power.
Can you provide step by step how you did that? I want to make sure I am understanding it correctly.
What cell phone holder are you using? It looks really nice.
Came across this after buying the new Zebra. Seems it has the same controller and display as the 2021 models. However, after adjusting the settings to max, can’t seem to get it over 25-26 mph. Did they add a level in the PLC to limit the limiter?
Yes unfortunately they limited the bike ☹️
Great video!
The web site says 28'' wheel diameter but the factory setting is 26''. Could that be the discrepancy for speed? I used mine for the first time today and thought they capped the new ones at 28mph but the speedometer was 30-31 on throttle. If I adjust to 28'' wheel diameter it will probably be right about 28mph, no?
Probably, but give it a try and see what happens.
I don't know what the Peak Wattage is either. For some reason, that's been very hard to find on this one. Anyway, I do agree that mine seems to indicate the same. I think 750 is nominal.
I'm a lot heavier than you, but I have seen 30 on my sp indicator, so there's that...
It's powerful enough that I'm waiting on a set of Hydraulic Calipers to arrive before I unlock it all the way.
Hydraulic calipers are a nice upgrade I didn't notice a dramatic difference but they are a little better
Great video 👌
Is there a full auto setting on the Himiway. I'm doing research on Ebikes. And I would like to find one with all three settings.
Regarding safety, 35 mph is too fast on a bicycle. However, I just had to check top speed on my new e-bike. After that, I reset the maximum speed from 72 kph back to 32 for class 2 and 45 for class 3. Weight, wind and grade significantly affect speed. I did my test off-road, no wind on level ground. It took about 30 seconds to reach 35 mph on my CSC e-bike. E-bikes are way too much fun! I think the Hemiway is slightly more powerful than the CSC, but it makes no difference when riding at legal speeds. I then raised the handlebars and the more upright position reduced top speed by 2 or 3 mph.
Yes 35 is pretty quick on a bicycle, I'm usually 30mph or under during my rides,
I wrote this on another vid hoping You would see it and comment. Today riding My Himiway, high bar style, with wind at My back , fully charged battery , peddle assist at 5 and in 7th gear , on flat bike lane I hit 48 MPH before I backed off the throttle - - Wow was I flying - - Couldn't believe it.
Did you mod this bike? Either that or you have the legs of Hercules, there's no way, I need to see video evidence hahaha 🙂
@@CitizenCycle925 It is strictly a Stock Himiway Cruiser. I had a strong wind at My back but yeah it was crazy. As I'm flying along I thought of You wishing I had a camera filming it. I went 30 miles and dropped one bar on the battery !! On the way home I was into those strong winds. Yes I do peddle the bike hard. My legs could not even keep up with the 40+++ MPH. I've put 1,500 miles on it to this point. It never ran that fast before.
Do you know how many steel magnets in the himiway cruiser please?
I was stuck between getting a Himiway or Biktrix Stunner X. I think I’ve decided on the Stunner X Custom with Maguire Magura quad piston Brakes. Since your driven the Stunner,do you think $400 is over kill /& price for the upgraded brakes and then go for the bigger battery? I want the battery for distance more then get there faster. Thanks for your input
If you had to choose an upgrade I'd go with the battery over the brakes. The stock hydraulic brakes on the center X are plenty strong, but it's up to you whatever you feel you need more
Just got mine about a month ago. Mine is the Black Cruiser. The top speed for me is around 25 mph. Sorry... I think they changed the top speed. for 2021. Also LS will only go to 40.
Great video.
I really think that it does not matter how fast the bike goes, its just that if it is too fast and powerful you are only supposed to ride them off-road only. Or just dont get caught speeding on interstate 95 lol
My CSC FT750XP-26 also reaches a true GPS speed of 35 MPH without peddling.
I just purchased one of these bikes and received it 3/23/21 all these functions I could set per my specifications except for the speed limiter , could only raise it to 45 . Is this because I have a newer bike or because there may be another step I need to perform
I'm not aware of any other steps, mine will go all the way up to like a hundred. Maybe they changed that in the computer recently..? I mean I just got this bike in February so I would think it'd be the same.
The newer ones are limiting the LS setting to 45. I have one of each and the older one that goes to 90 like yours is faster.
@@1RockDog That's a bummer I wish they would just leave all the settings wide open on all these brands of bikes
@@1RockDog That's a bummer I wish they would just leave all the settings wide open on all these brands of bikes
I was reading in the comments about someone saying that the new models might not go as fast and that maybe wouldn't be able to change too speed settings. Do you think that is true?
Yes Himiway has limited the top speed, The bikes I had were early models and I could set the top speed to 99. now I think it tops out at 45 km/h
@@CitizenCycle925 well that's still 27mph. I just ordered one for $1600. I take it you're in Canada. I really hate when stuff gets updated. Why can't we be held responsible for our own actions. That's like making a car that only goes 40mph!
Are the new himiway cruisers as fast??
Great video! Where the Rover??
I had my up to 40 going down hill - crazy ain`t it
That is crazy, I wonder what I could hit downhill..
You don't have to prove anything to anyone.
Just wanted to make sure I was giving out accurate information 😁
How tall are you. I just got one. I’m 6’3. The site says I should be fine but I’m still worried. 😂
how did you set the max speed to 99 I can only get mine to 45 , and I max out at 28.5 mph .
Himiway has altered their settings from the factory on the newer models and you can't set them that high anymore
You get a bigger better battery and drive train i think is a step up from the Rad wich I learned after I ordered my Rad . but I don't have any real complaints about my Rad !but I would be lived to save $100 for a better battery alone . just sayin !👍
I could only get my LS number up to 45 it won’t go up to 99 like yours does. Did himiway change the settings and can I change it to the settings like your
I think they just started limiting that setting... Bunch of people have said that. Mine goes to 99 but I don't think the computer or motor recognizes anything over 45 anyway. How fast can you pedal it?
@@CitizenCycle925
I got it up too 31 mph so far. Yeah my luck they would change it or maybe cause I live in NYC they said oh hell no we have to change it LOL. But anyway thanks for responding I appreciate it
your videos it what convinced me to get a himiway instead of the rad rover
Keep up the good work and videos very informative for people like me. 👍😎
5:41 i saw 39 😳
I can get my Himiway cruiser up to 34 down hill going as hard as I can.
I weigh 205 lbs.
But then again, I only get 23 miles on a charge peddling most of the time on full peddle assist.
My numbers don't add up to any of you guys. Still love the bike though. Better than a Rover.
Might be an advantage weighing more going down hill then some skinny guy.
Why do you say better than rover? You have a rover too? Explain!
What’s the name of the app.
Mine only allowed me to set max speed to 40 which is max 25 mph.
And make these manufacturers change everything
How does this bike compare to the cyrusher xf650. Speed wise.
It's a little bit faster
Of course the speedometer is off if the bike has 29" tires and you enter 26" in the configuration. It uses the diameter of the wheel to calculate the speed.
I tried it with 29in also, speedo was still not right. 🙂
@@CitizenCycle925 That's because 26", 28", 700, 29" are rather classifications than the exact diameter. E.G. 26" and 28 are the diameters of the rim. But the tires on that rim can still have heights and those affect the diameter. So the manufacturere of Speedometers have to work with estimations. 29" usually means its a 28" rim with an extra wide tire like they are used on mountain bikes. The diameter also changes over the time when the tire gets worn. So speedometer never are 100% correct.
The tires of the himiway are tires for a 26" rim, but they are extremely wide and high. So they might be in between 28" and 29".
Beside that there is also a legal reason.
Ussually the purpose of a speedometer is tthat the driver can avoid to go faster than ist allowed. So they are allowed to show a higher speed than you really go. but no lower speed than you really go.
You dont want to get a ticket for driving too fast because your speedometer showed a lower speed.
Hey there! FANTASTIC VIDEOS YOU MAKE!!! So I have a question. On my himiway, the speed limit setting maxes out at 45, not 90 like all the others ones I seen. Am I doing something wrong?? I followed all your settings to a T, and it only maxes out at 45!! Help!!
How fast does yours go set at the 45 mark? I talked with Himiway today and told them about that. They said 45 would be the max power. Can you do 30 on throttle only?
Mine is the same, we must have a newer version, 45 is plenty fast for this baby. I'm glad it isn't limited to 20 l like some.
wasn't there a change in motors with the 2021 bikes.
my limit speed only goes to 45 or 55. I don't have the 90 option, but, that's ok.
The new bikes can't be set above 45% power
He tested a 2021 Cruiser what is a newer one ..a 2021 1/2 ?
@@chuckymurlo5654 Don't know. I've only had my bike for 2+ weeks. 45 was where my power stopped.
@@DrewHaughton thanks for the reply. It looks like any Himi shipped in or after February 2021 the settings were changed from 99 to 45..not all that important but why can't they just leave it alone. I'm having enough trouble trying to decide on a bike
Got mine 9/18/21 and my adjusted only to 40?
29” is the outside diameter of a 26” fat tire bike.
I have a Himiway Step through and mine gets up to 32mph with pedal ass.
How much
They are 1499
To lazy to look it up?
312 lbs, 14 ounces
Ten large pepperoni pizzas with extra grease.
flat ground on my Rover is about 24mph throttle only.
PAS Topspeed was 39 on bike, 0-20 was 9 seconds,
I made my 20 mph cut off ebike go 42 mph when I was 277 lb and had strong legs and a slight down hill it's freaking possible
i just got my cruiser about a month ago i can get up to 33 mph on flat no peddling im 125lbs
Nice 🙂
Hi, how come my max speed setting only goes to 45 & not 99 like your??
I got my Himiway cruiser 2weeks ago. Did they reprogram them not to go to 99 mph anymore?? Thanks
Same with mine, I don't have 99, 45 is plenty.
27.7 MPH HIMIWAY TOP SPEED
My himiway does 28 but I’m 255 Lbs. Doctor told me to lose 5 to 100 Lbs. Still working on it.
The new units only do 28, and it has nothing to do with your weight. Sorry, but they changed the firmware since this video.
I heard the 2021 model after Feb, The limit is 28 MPH
Yes, that is correct. This video is the older version. Mine tops at 28 too because I bought it at the end of May (and just received it a few days ago).
@@domitron I received mine on June 22, top speed not over 28MPH.
Broke my speed record going 43 mph
Hey the people that said you were lying' and the Himiway couldn't go that fast" are the soy eating latte drinking millennials that don't have any physical strength 2 paddle a heavy bike' they're forgetting that your a real man on a Himiway not a girly man!🤦♂️🤣😂😅✌👋🍻
Haha yes, the manliness of the beard counteracts the wind resistance....
Time with these people we both know cuddling of pedal bike was good torque and speed and good leg string can make it go faster than what they say is supposed to go stop answering these these people that just don't try or understand that's how it works
That is so sad in Europe we have this bike at 250w motor power instead of 750 because of law and regulations of EU 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
🙂👍🏽
Did You want Your headlight on while You test this - - It's on bro -- >>>
Thought it might help seeing the screen.
@@CitizenCycle925 All it does is use juice You want going to Your motor. It actually dims Your screen for night riding. The screen is brighter with headlight off.
I just got my cruiser and you can no-longer set the speed higher than 45. 🙁
Really I'm surprised at this. I just got this bike in February... That's a bummer. I wish the the programming was wide open on all these bikes so you could set to whatever you want.
@@CitizenCycle925 yes, know im wondering what else was changed 🤔
@@Fieldsinv are you in the United States is this a US version of the bike?
@@CitizenCycle925 yes sir, the wonderful USA.
@@CitizenCycle925 I can confirm my bike I got last weekend shows a max of 45 in the US.
I hope the powers-that-be and law enforcement don't watch these videos