FREEVIEW IS OUT! FREELY IS COMING...
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- Freeview is old news... FREELY is the future for TV... Or Is It?
It was recently announced by the public service broadcasters of the UK, the BBC, ITV, CHANNEL 4 & CHANNEL 5, that a new 'evolution' of Freeview will be debuting in 2024. FREELY will take the free-to-air channels people love into the smart TV world of internet based streaming, but is it a good idea? How even will this take shape?
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Big big problem: 1/3 of homes don’t get fast enough internet to us IPTV, and big proportion of poorer households cannot afford broadband. So people need to realise free to air and public service broadcasting will not go away until every inch of the uk has good fast broadband.
Yes that fibre to the property is going to be the standard in the next few years every home will have full fiber as openreach is shutting down copper broadband
Extraordinary - I'm in eastern Europe and EVERYONE who wants it has full speed fibre. The UK really doesn't keep up with the rest of the world
Providers in the UK offer ‘essential’ or ‘basic’ broadband packages for as little as £10 per month for those on benefits.
@@darren100880- but is that good enough for this? Or will they miss out, again?
@@darren100880 I don’t think you realise how little benefits are and unaffordable that is for many even still.
They sure use the word "free" a lot when I assume a TV licence will still be required so it is not "free" (Trade Description Act).
Yep like the so called free smart meters that will come out of your bill to pay for them
I can imagine that the BBC will drop the TV licence as it uses "TV" in it's name. I fear that they will want the Government to change the law so that they can issue a "Media Licence" and therefore force all those who have cancelled their TV licence to purchase the new "Media Licence".
@@IanKerrymore to the point they'll be able to track viewing activity through your IP address and issue fines without even visiting your house.
@@Banglish123 Good point, but possibly bad news for the "salesmen" they send round as "agents".
If the bbc had adverts then there would be no need to have a tv licence. So then we can have free tv
For Freely to work a not so free £30 a month internet connection is needed while a TV aerial has a monthly cost of nothing.
TV licence is needed for BBC on the not so freeview.
The BBC should encrypt their "Pay as you Go TV"
And treat it as the subscription top up TV that it is.
Then we would have True freeview
I miss the "Live TV" experience of the 90's and 2000's. I would happily watch a digital recreation of this. Sometimes, we want the TV to show us what to watch, with a simple interface. After a long day at work, and don't want to keep working for my entertainment.👍
I once went to a pizza place where you had to pick all the ingredients individually. I thought that was what the chef was paid to do and I would just pick from the menu.
16 million homes actually equates to over 50% of homes in the UK. Following from that we are talking of over 50% of the population still accessing Freeview.
I think a major issue I have with this is, terrestrial & satellite broadcasting was truely, broadcasting. Anyone with a dish or antenna could tune a box and pick up the signal. But, I worry that we're going to have to create yet another account to sign in with, put up with draconian DRM schemes, get even more email spam & get more of our every move aggregated for the big advertisement machine
Yeah that's the killer for me too; if you have to create a new account then it's all a big load of shite. Got enough on demand/streaming accounts as it is without adding broadband based freeview to it!
The killer for many would be if they link access to a TV license!
@@barrieshepherd7694they definitely will
Freely will be a method to catch TV license evaders
Get your facts right. We are not TV licence evaders, we don't watch live TV , and we don't have a contract with them , hence licence not required 4yrs free now. And I have filled in the online form licence not needed . Netflix, TH-cam catch-up and Freevee is enough for me lol
Get your facts right. We are not TV licence evaders, we don't watch live TV , and we don't have a contract with them , hence licence not required 4yrs free now. And I have filled in the online form licence not needed . Netflix, TH-cam catch-up and Freevee is enough for me lol
@@jameshealy8402 Freely is not going to be totally streaming its also going to be live TV for which one is "required" to have a TV license for live TV broadcast over the internet. Therefore I am pretty sure they will be putting in place technology to catch people without a TV license who inadvertently are watching any "LIVE" freely broadcast. I am well aware that one does not need a TV license to watch purely streaming services (except BBC that is) You ought to get your own facts right before jumping on your keyboard
@@JohnMitch There's live TV on TH-cam, so there's no problem with live on Freely as long as you don't watch it . Don't jump on your keyboard and call us licence evaders . We are "legally" licence free . This is boring me now, adios
@@jameshealy8402 You really and totally misconstrued my post, I was not saying that those who watch only streamed programs were license evaders, only that freely will have the technology in place to pin point those who watch "LIVE" tv on freely without a TV license as License evaders
I'm guessing all UK broadband providers prices will rise due to a sub cost of every house now paying their TV licences!
I've not owned a TV since 1995. That's when, in my opinion, all genre's became dark, vengence driven and genrally negative (latest adaptation of Great Expectations for example). Not wanting to sound like a 21st C version of Mary Whitehouse here but giving up a TV means I now live my own life and experience my own adventures instead of sitting consuming other peoples. I've done things, learned so many new things and been to places I never would have as a couch potato!
My concern with this is how BBC try to wrangle TV licencing into this service. If it becomes a desperate ploy to force more people to pay the tax, and put their foot down on streaming, then that is a very scary proposition. Thankfully we've got until 2027 before any changes are forced in this respect but, as someone who cares very little for terrestrial programming, hopefully it leads to TV licencing being abolished or atleast BBC's own powers being diminished, probably neither of these though given how effective it is as a tool to any political party in power.
The governments lawful approved taxation
Police protected TV licence !
Should be encrypted.
Making freeview..... Free
Or are the government going to pass a new law granting TV licence revenue collectors the power to check through your apps.
The cheeky bastards asked if my Phone's built in radio can access BBC radio 😂
Desperately trying to justify their harassment.
@@JaSon-wc4pnI think BBC should be encrypted on satellite and Freeview and put behind a paywall online.
On satellite and digital terrestrial TV, many if not all free to air smart TVs, are often equipped with a conditional access card decoder slot into which you insert a conditional access card decoder unit and smartcard for subscription services.
Upon payment of a monthly or yearly subscription, you receive a conditional access card decoder unit which slots into the conditional access slot on your TV, and you will ring a freephone authorisation number to activate your smartcard to access BBC services including iPlayer and Sounds on your set.
On TVs with no conditional access card decoder slot, again upon payment of a monthly or yearly subscription, you'll get a decoder box with integrated decryption circuitry, that plugs into your aerial and HDMI or AV socket on your TV, and once you are connected up, you ring the freephone automated authorisation number to activate your BBC decoder.
Online, you'll pay a monthly or yearly subscription and this will give you access to BBC services including iPlayer and Sounds.
If you view and listen to BBC services via Virgin Media cable TV, these will be tied into a basic tier subscription package.
Voilà no licence fee, and everyone wins, and if you don't want to pay for BBC services, that's ok as you can view other free to air Freeview and satellite services regardless, again no licence fee required.
I think u hit the nail on the head and I call bullshit ..its designed to catch out the more and more people declining the need for a licence and this new collaboration will enforce the need for a licence for access with Internet.. lets be honest they are definitely not doing it to help us save money while they lose money..good call matey..
They could do it well and say "do you have a TV licence" and you say no and then it gives you a slick interface with no broadcast TV services, and if you say yes then I tweaked interface with TV channels. However, I think we all know that if you say no they'll give a horrible interface that still has TV guide icons and live programming adverts, along with warnings everywhere about needing a TV license to watch the things you don't actually want to watch!
@@JaSon-wc4pn
BBC Radio is not subject to the TV licence. Why are they asking?
Sadly the internet is not up to speed for millions of particularly rural viewers.
got sick and tired o various useless broadband services, 3 was the last effort to get binned. Despite my dislike of Elon Musk, having seen friends using Starlink, I'm a convert. It's reliable and very fast. Got a "refurbished kit" for £200 an away I went. Running for 2 months with no glitches...fingers crossed. Sky binned as well
They haven't even switched off analogue radio yet so I reckon Freeview will be around for a while
There are around 28 million households in the UK, so 16 million homes is about 60%.
Yup. Many will use cable, or satellite
TV is getting stranger all the time
Ain't that the truth 😂
Certainly
It's astounding that we haven't got total immersion TV yet where we have a dedicated room where you can walk around the EastEnders set while Phil Mitchell's having an argument with Ian in the café for example.
Could be a sneaky way to pay the TV license?
Yep. They'll be able to see who is watching TV without a TV licence.
It is stated here that Freeview is used in 16 million homes. If you say a home on average has 2.4 people that equates to 38,400,000 people which is well over half the total population of the UK which is just short of 68,000,000.
Needs to be allowed to have an app on Android/iOS not just via TVs/boxes.
I've noticed the more channels I get the less I watch TV . I can easily go a week and never even switch it on and when i do I struggle to find anything I would want to watch.
I only watch Emmy award winners and BAFTA TV award winners for Drama and scripted comedy (assuming they release on prime video) as most tv is forgettable.
Freely seems to be a new name for streaming and live TV together, Mind I dont think they can outcast TH-cam through.
TH-cam will take some beating!
YT you don't need a license for... streaming realtime TV, you do, especially if it's BBC
@@Lee_303You also need a TV licence for any live-streaming of any kind.
@@DrWhoFanJ so if a youtube channel does a live your saying you need a license
@@psycloneranger2279 No, I’m saying you would need a licence. (“A license” is an impossible phrase as verbs do not take articles.)
it won't be free if a tv license is required
It will be if I just use a vpn
Yep this is to stop the TV licence evaders.
I do not have a TV lincence. I am not a licence evader - I choose only to watch on demand not live TV or the BBC's iPlayer, so I do not need a TV licence. I do not see this making any difference to me.
@@ClimateChangeHeretic Did I mention you?
What happens when the TV doesn't support the App anymore because of the last update that isn't compatible with your TV which happens to a lot of Apps.
You need to buy a new tv
@@NicholasJH96 Why should I have to buy a new TV it works perfectly well, that's why there's too much waste in the world. I'll upgrade when it brakes down.
the first thing i thought of before watching is the BBC will use this to charge a licence fee so if you have an online connection you will have to pay for a licence and everyone will pay!!!!!!
But it still needs a TV licence, right ? Why not take the opportunity to make it a subscription thiing ? Still live TV, but no need for a licence.
What is it with the modern obsession with companies putting "-ly" on the end of their names?
Trying to be 'fresh', 'with it' and 'relevant' now that prefixing with 'i' has gone the way of 'Turbo'
shame its not really Free to watch as you need a tv licence to watch any Live tv channel
I can't wait for one app that will provide access to the UK's main live TV channels. I hate having to go from app to app, and some (channel 4) don't even provide live TV on their own Android TV app.
The channel 4 app offers live tv on its Android app on mobile, tablet and Xbox.
Yeah I'm not okay with this. They need to make this available on other platforms, not just smart TVs.
There will be an app I guarantee it for ios and Android probably a website you can view it on as well but takes a few years for a smart TV to be developed where as an app or website can be done in weeks
@@simonupton-millard Yeah, that would actually be really cool if it was available on iOS, Android and through a website. There's a huge part of me that is really hoping for that will happen. Though admittedly I was thinking more along the lines of Chromecast and Fire TV and the like, they really need to make Freely available on those platforms too. There's a lot of people that don't have a smart TV and rely on Chromecasts and Fire TV sticks, so they really need to cater to those people as well.
There's going to be app for older tvs,phones as in mobiles and tablets.
@@NicholasJH96 Really, where did they confirm this? Because all of the marketing material that I could possibly read about Freely only mentions it's going to be on smart TVs and doesn't mention anything else.
I just want to TV tax/license abolished forever
No doubt this will go the way of the iplayer where you need an account. Can't allow people to watch TV while skipping the TV license like they do now :)
Still a long way to go until every household in the UK can get a decent fast broadband connection. Only then can they switch off Freeview and Freesat.
And only when the broadband is free, too - which will never happen.
Will FREELY be available as an update with an existing smart TV?
Yes year depending. I highly doubt my 2018 smart tv will.
There's nothing "free to air" about the BBC channels. Will this be the begining of the end for the TV licence? I'd love to see a video about how you predice the TV licence will be abolished.
The down side to this is relying on one service to provide PSB to the masses. A bad actor could take down TV nation wide by simply DDoSing the Freely service. Something that's not really possibly with the broadcast model of Freeview.
Freely receives stream for services from the PSBs directly, freely won't be hosting or streaming content itself.
So you'd have to ddos the PSBs themselves
Will you be able to watch it on PC and therefore mini pc plugged into telly? Will there be set top box version of it so you don't have to buy new telly (and create e-waste )?
In one years time the BBC licensing will go onto your council tax
I think it's important that Free TV is still going to be available. Some households are fortunate to have a TV and TV license ALONE, let alone broadband. In our house for example, we still rely heavily on free to view TV, I would say 80% of the time.
how can it be free TV when you still need a bloody TV licence ,
I'm looking forward to this, I live in a spot where I need my TV aerial on a 2m pole attached to the top of my chimney, but I have gigabit internet. I'll switch over immediately.
Why are they calling it ' FREELY ' as it doesn't come free if you have to buy a monthly broadband package to receive it as not all people have or want broadband, so if you have to buy a broadband package to receive it then it will be like paying for a sky package, & then don't forget you'll still have to pay for you TV licence.
Nothing more than giving into the demand from the BBC that new TVs should have have IPlayer built in. "Free TV for all"...utter nonsense! Not until the license fee (tax) is ended.
Much as I appreciate the hundreds of new channels available via streaming, lets hope that Freely keeps the channels dedicated to showing back to back episodes of single programmes separately from the main linear channels.
With all this being net-based, I would imagine there would be ways to "customise" your viewing experience. For example, if you watch "linear TV" or live TV as we oldies used to say, then if you were watching some programme, and think "This is good, but it's episode five, how do I see the ones I missed?" My bet is that there would be a link from there to say ITVx or iPlayer for you to catch up.
So Freely would be the "live" stuff, and ITVx would be VoD or catch up. There would be cross-linkage to the players, as this would help all the platforms.
@@bradmiley I would go back to watching live tv again if it carried Talking Pictures TV, as I don’t have access to the live service where I am.
It almost certainly will have those.
My Samsung Tv has it's own iptv service with all sorts if weird & wacky channels like Smurfs TV a channel dedicated to nothing but the Smurfs & Smurf related spin-offs.
The low cost of internet TV allows production companies to air their own shows nonstop and Freely would be stupid not to take advantage of all the free online channels already available.
@@MsMarco6 Absolutely! I couldn't agree more. The days of a soap opera attracting 36 million viewers at 7.30pm has ended. We don't want one episode of a drama at 9.00pm each week, we want them dropped in full so we spend the weekend watching the whole thing.
Aeons ago, back when people were first discovering websites, dial up modems, AOL 50 hour free access CDs, I was a tech writer. I wrote a piece about how I was "waiting for the world to catch up", as I used to talk about PUSH vs PULL. I did explain what I meant with lots of examples, but it was essentially this: I was waiting for a PULL technology world. Back, say, in the 70s, when three channels ruled the UK, newspapers printed yesterday's news, if you were interested in finding out what cargo was on a ship that was robbed by pirates in 1832 you had to make a note and go visit the library and HOPE that an encyclopedia might give the answer. All PUSH. You watched BBC1 until that comedy you liked on ITV started at 9pm, maybe leaving it on that channel for the rest of the evening.
We as consumers, customers, curious human beings, wanted PULL. And it's been happening and developing since the mid/late 90s. We WANT this comedy NOW. We want Wikipedia to tell us the cargo of the ship! We want control, and "legacy TV" is trying to reconcile schedules (Live TV) with the new viewing habits of the third decade of the 21st century. In effect, it's a hybrid; a compromise. Keep the schedules, but remind viewers where they can "Catch Up" via a link, or find a similar series based on your viewing preferences .
I realise this is very long winded (used to be a writer, now disabled, limited mobility, pain etc) but I hope this shows the signs of uncertainty and even a little fear ( especially the BBC ha ha ha - licence fee anger) that they have to act, not *react*, to what's happening. But if the BBC is NOT live, in the near future perhaps, then they lose the licence cash and have to learn how adverts work.
PULL is now the normal for everyone. We pulled *this* very video to watch! Thank you for attending my TED Talk... 🤣
@@MsMarco6is it the Hanna Barbera series and the new series and other such Smurf related things?
I live 200 meters from the telephone exchange and due to a BT/Openreach and Government Con I can not get Fibre Broadband I'm stuck with steam broadband. The Government gave BT a shed load of money (twice) to give every household fast broadband.
I’m thinking this will be a way to close the loophole in the tv licence terms and conditions as you don’t need a licence if you stream catch-up and on demand but now this is streaming LIVE broadcasts the licensing goons will be saying you don’t need a dish or Ariel you can stream bbc so you are caught without a licence. Prove me wrong!
Time for another big bowl of ChilliJonCarne.
But you have needed a license to stream iPlayer for a long time now there is no loophole.
Yes but only for the iPlayer and when all the other streaming channels are in this freely app you think you won’t get prompted for tv licence proof BEFORE you can stream any of the channels, plus iPlayer was intended to be an on demand and catch-up service when it’s live tv on any of the channels bbc included that’s how they get you for a tv licence fee.
so what about the tv licence ?? is that being binned ??
Regarding that high speed infrastructure, I know someone who lives in a location that doesn't get Virgin, and has an intermittent at best connection to the internet otherwise.
Will manufacturers be forced to keep sets up to date to avoid built in obsolescence.?
My Panasonic lost iPlayer a few years ago when the BBC changed coding - it's back now but have lost ITV X as the TV does not apparently have the right codecs Panasonic say "No intention to solve the hardware is not in the set"
I mean there's some big advantages to this.
1. The black market have been doing this - to a very high standard - for nearly a decade. Anyone who's visited a friend or family member with a property based in certain sunnier parts of Europe knows this.
2. Again, why the flip was Kangaroo killed.
3. The industry desperately needs an aggregator of PSB content.
4. Take the points on speed in the sticks; but 720p/50 will beat 1080p/25. Just sayin'.
5. It's also a long game. Nobody is talking about switching off DTT right now, but developments have to have an eye towards it.
6. The big one - everyone, including non regional channels, can offer much more targeted and regional - even local - advertising. No longer must Ron's Motors in my hometown buy a spot on ITV's Waltham split. They can simply hit everyone with an LE10 postcode. Every individual viewer gets a custom ad break. Which is what happens right here on YT already!
many people do not have any internet access ... these big companies have to remember that
Too true!
Funny thing was I was gonna go onto TH-cam to type in freely and the first video that came up was this. LOL!!!😂
Other than myself and my partner I dont know of anybody who watches live TV or the BBC.
This is crap considering most rural communities "STILL" don't have decent broadband capability. I could be wrong but I'm sure that amounts to 30% of the country and in Scotland and Wales,......well just forget it. I'm in Scotland and my Sky broadband is not true fibre and it still regularly drops out for upwards of a couple of hours on a weekly basis.
The infrastructure just the same as for electric cars, just is not there. Oh and it's most definitely not free as I'll just remind everyone that you do still have to pay for your internet service regardless of the quality of service. Are people really "THAT" stupid they can't work that out?
Man! TV is getting odder and odder by the minute 😂 great video AMTV!
Thanks!
@@AdamMartyn Anytime. Your videos are very interesting and entertaining
So how many people are without high speed Internet in the UK. I live in Texas and there are around 10 million Americans still stuck with less than 5mbit Internet and satellite internet is around $200 per month. So broadcast is still vital especially in tornado and hurricane season.
There are around 3% of UK homes that can't get faster than 30mbps on a Fibre to the Cabinet connection which supports up to 76mbps the further you live from one of the Cabinets your speeds are slower. Prices are around £25 - £35pm depending on your package but in 2021 ISP's brought out cheaper tarrifs for people claiming Social Security benifits cheapest is £12pm for upto 36mbps. By 2026 over 80% of UK homes will have FTTH which will support up to 1Gps for around £50pm for the top package
@@weird-guy that sucks about the 15GB cap all our social tariffs are unlimited most providers have 2 options 36/10 from £12 - £15 but a few offer 76/20 speeds for £20.
The large problem I can see for this is people who don't pay for a tv licence but watch catch up tv will most likely get flagged for illegal TV usage since they have bundled BBC into it.
The quicker the BBC just do advertising like everyone else or turns to subscriptions, the better.
It's a good idea, but it needs improvement.
They should be treated as "encrypted" Top up TV
Giving the average TV viewers the choice to Subscribe to it.
Not an old forced Taxation on those that don't want it
Im sure that those people who love outside of the uk would mostly be happy to pay a subscription for this service.
If this means everything goes hd that will be good since 95% of Freeview was still 4080p/576i also this better not make it harder to record TV
It never said that Freeview is being switched off though...........
I mention that in the video! Sadly 2023 TH-cam inspires the title 😂
@@AdamMartyn Oh yes, I understand, BTW I did watch the video, just so you know :-)
Not yet …
TV isn't free in the UK, we have to pay a licence fee!
Yes, it's a joke. Freeview is not free!
Good points. I live in inner city Leeds, and broadband in my locality went down totally yesterday.
If it's 15% are IP-only, what proportion do _not_ watch TV via broadband? And please note that that includes a fair proportion of those who _do_ have a broadband connection.
I don't know the answer but I have a decent broadband connection and I rarely watch any TV over it. I'll sometimes record a terrestrial show to DVR and watch it later but I get most of my shows through 'alternative methods', even though the household pays for several streaming services. There's only one show I always watch live (on terrestrial TV) but even that is more of a habit/tradition I don't want to break.
"..the next generation of smart tv's..." So basically, you have to buy a new TV??
Wonder if freely will be available on firesticks, chromecast, roku??
Should be wish it was Android and iOS too.
The BBC owns DAVE and that channel is full of ads so the BBC is running ads now
Lets face it most TV watchers are old people like me and are quite happy with terrestrial TV ..and love our set top boxes ..the main drawback with Freely is not just slow broadband but programmes cannot be recorded ..and Freeview will last until 2034..
I'm not sure if you've misunderstood, or just didn't mention it, but they will not be switching off traditional broadcasting when this is implemented. It is simply an alternative way for people to access a free-to-air service. They will most likely never "switch off" traditional broadcasting as it is the most effective way to reach people in emergencies. This is the reason traditional radio broadcasting still exists.
Also, the figure of 15% of people using Smart TVs means that 15% of households are accessing media via ONLY their Smart TV streaming services (i.e. they do not also have access to Freeview, cable, or satellite). The percentage of households who use Smart TVs alongside broadcast television is going to be much larger.
Exactly, to be fair I thought that the video, particularly it's title is a bit tabloid-like
But it's the 1st step to turning it off as the frequency range is worth a lot of money to the government
Smart TV's are utter rubbish after a certain length of time you can't use the apps as the app companies stop updating them for your TV.
@@simonupton-millard Regardless of how much money it costs to keep the airwaves open, they will not close them down. They need to be kept open to reach people in hypothetical emergencies such as natural disasters, for example. If they ever do get closed down, it will not be anytime in the foreseeable future.
@@TheUberJulian it's not that it's the billions of pounds the government could make selling the spectrum off to phone companys, agree won't be for 10 to 20 years don't forget government has a emergency system built into mobile phones now they tested it a few months ago
Supported by advertising, of course.
Free to air should stay in some form. A station in Boston is going to transmit streaming video on 5g. I wonder if that is the next step
If they ever get rid of Freesat, things will get interesting in the Rep of Ireland 🇮🇪 as most people have a free to air satellite 📡 to get hold of overspill signal from the UK 🇬🇧
Brev they better sell the Freeview transmitters to broke ass 2RN to add more channels 😂😂😂 (joke)
@@RyanGonTV Ryan Tubridy can set up his own tv network with NK chums 🤣 They could run it off Renault and Irish government adverts 🤑
i dont think they will get rid of freesat as it uses the same broadcasts that sky uses
@@fonkley Freesat safe enough for now but apparently sky will stop handing out set top boxes for Astra in the UK later this year in a shift to sky glass inc Netflix model fully internet based. Sky still service SD only services so Satellite 📡is probably safe enough for another 10 years. Although apparently 2rN (RTÉ in code) are planning to quietly turn off the saorsat service in the short-medium term. There is probably almost no one using that service as it needs a specific dish and it’s geo lock is very tight to Ireland 🇮🇪
@@richardbutler4488 aye 😂😂 Renault would
It’s all well and good but when your internet lets you down you can’t get f**** all. Happened to me today.
How can Freeview be free when you need a television license to be able to use the service?
My educated guess is that Freeview as a transmitter based service will be over come 2030. They are most likely waiting for the new Royal Charter of the BBC to come into effect from Jan 1st 2028 before any decision is made. Of course that new charter could mean a very differently funded BBC by all accounts. But I feel they will wait until the end of this decade before ending Freeview.
No way at all. Broadband of sufficient quality is not universally available.
@@MePeterNicholls By the end of the decade it will be. My broadband speed back a decade ago was limited to 30MB in my small town. Today we have 1,000MB speeds here. And that is just a decade. 2030 which is when I think some changes will start we will see broadband expand everywhere with 4G and 5G etc. It will happen. No stopping, as it is now an essiential part of life
@@johnking5174 rural broadband is still absolutely atrocious. Unfortunately despite being essential it’s not seen as such by the gov
@@johnking5174 I doubt it will be by end of decade, as this has been going on now for 20 years.
@@MePeterNichollsFull fibre will be available in 80% of homes by the end of 2026 Freeview tramsmitter licence are paid upto 2034 atm
This will probably be taxed heavily at some point in the near future, through our subscriptions to isp’s - seemingly instead of this being a luxury we afford ourselves. The internet could become a mandatory cost of living, as an internet subscription will be required for so many aspects of our daily lives. This could become incredibly expensive once we’re all completely dependent on it, for our entertainment, banking, communications, working from home, schooling, health appointments, household utilities etc etc
And they say Ai is imminent 😂
I don't know if people have realised this but this means now that when you buy a new TV you have to have a TV license
if you download an app and use it maybe
@@dtox545
With all due respect you don't get it this will be built into the TV itself you won't have an option that's what I'm talking about when I mean the TV licence because it's live streaming therefore you will need one
if i dont open the app to watch tv channels i wont@@daviddukes9392
This isnt being built by ETV they've got some friends in the business doing the heavy lifting while they take all the glory!
Please do South Africa. Such an interesting case. Introduced late (1976) because the regime didn't want (white) viewers to see programmes like The Cosby Show, with blacks and whites living in harmony. And initially the channels (TV1, TV2, TV3) were organised on racial lines (1 for whites, 2 for SiZulu, 3 for IsiXhosa). Madness.
As long as it's not just going to be on smart TVs, this is a really good idea. Getting rid of Freeview, not until a number of years, would be a really stupid idea. The licence should be scrapped. Should have been many years ago.
Looking at how the BBC will be funded come 2028, I feel the current licence fee will be scrapped, and we will see a new "Public Broadcasting Charge" added to our council tax bills. Out of that pot, the BBC will be given 75% of it, with the remaining 25% given to independent media who need public funding to survive. This, along with the BBC continuing to supplement their income with their commercial arm BBC Studios will be the new funding model for the BBC.
All fine so long as alongside developing software for smart TVs that software, preferably open source/libre is developed for those of us who do not want to use something with the inherent built-in obsolescence of smart TVs where software updates end years before the smart TV itself is non-functional. Ideally this would be software capable of being integrated into such projects as Kodi or MythTV or any other opensource media centre project.
A version that you could use with a standard web browser would also be good. Like the old TVcatchup website used to be back in the 2010s where you could watch BBC, ITV, CH4, Ch5 etc
It’s all very well with this type of service but if your broadband falls over Friday afternoon and doesn’t come back on stream until if you are lucky by Monday? Good bye to your entertainment over the weekend? With a aerial or dish you can still watch TV.
As I am X installer for more then 30 years in the industry I feel very uncomfortable the way the future is going☹️
Reminds me of when they tried to do project Kangaroo. It got blocked by the government. Had to laugh at the ITV statement.
I live in an area where I can't get fibre to the box on the street
BBC Enternainment is stopping soon. Nothing easy is left for us, on the continent, except BBC News and Skynews. Both are news channels only.
Will there be a Freely App for those of us whose TVs are not so smart new?
Is freely a watch only system like BT/TNT or a HDD record and watch system like the current Freeview service ?
No you be able to watch live likes news,Sports on free channels but say you missed highligh show of football on BBC 1 then it will be able to take you there to watch. On sky stream you can pause it but people pay for that function. We don't know yet but that would be handy.
What you haven't mentioned is that surely this is an opportunity to sell the service abroad. Wouldn't this help with the BBC Licensing issue, if the revenue could be gained from worldwide sales of the service but free in the UK.
So the people who will use this can't pick up a TV signal? Is that why this is being created?
Of course, this is live TV, & you need a license! Are they trying trick people, who are streaming catch up TV via 5g or broadband, into thinking this is the same? Because it's not, it's live TV.
When this is built into TVs, I assume it will lock out live TV without verification of holding a TV license. I've no problem with that so long as there is an option to opt out of receiving live TV and also that opting out will not result in lost functionality in other areas, or a UI that has ugly gaps in it where the broadcast channels / TV guide would normally sit.
Yeah you could do that in a country like South Korea …
Most people in the UK, don’t have Internet or it’s not fast enough or unstable and where I live,
Oh no, the Internet's gone down
My friend if the BBC are on it it's not free you need a TV license in the UK, please stop calling it free tv in the UK, it's not while we have the BBC Tax.
Hmm, as it stands at the moment, if I don't own a TV then I don't have to pay the license fee as I can prove that I cannot watch live BBC content (No TV)... but when this goes ahead would it mean that I would now have to have a license purely because I have an internet connection?
There are lots of misconceptions when it comes to the television license here in the UK.
But don’t worry, you can own as many televisions as you like as long as you don’t watch live television (Live or recorded) or BBC iPlayer.
Hi there , I know it's early days. But is there any indication that you would need to purchase a new TV to receive the new Freely service?? We have a 2023 lg 4k smart TV so maybe hope our model is new enough to be able to receive it with out too many issues ?? Many thanks in advance 🙂
It depends on how old tv is. Your tv might get but my Samsung tv from 2018 won't get it. I doubt my tv I have now will be around by 2030. If I predict lifespan of tv is 5 to 8 years any longer than 8 then your lucky.
Living in a rural location, surrounded by hills, terrestrial tv is almost impossible.
We only got broadband 18 months ago and have managed to upgrade from the 0.7mbs (BT copper wire) to something a little more reliable but, not fantastic.
So our best goto service has been a Freesat box, plugged into an almost dumb TV. It works.
As for spending more money upgrading TV and broadband, don't think I'll be that keen or excited about Freely. Enough demands on my pension already!
And as for the TV licence tax.... 🤬
Does anyone still remember Challenge TV, the one stop shop for game show reruns? I’m only asking because it holds a special place in my heart. Because when I was younger than what I am now I used to watch Bullseye religiously whenever it dared to air on the channel. That and other game shows as Catch Phrase, Play Your Cards Right, Family Fortunes, The Price Is Right and a host of others.
Big Challenge fan here! 👋
I've watched Challenge a lot too!
The big problem with any smart tv is the smart functions rapidly become obsolete as technology improves and manufacturers stop support after a few years. So TV will gradually follow the mobile phone model where people will need new equipment every few years. I can't see Freely maintaining an old app just to allow early devices to continue working. We already seem to be getting used to replacing a TV every few years, something practically unheard of 20 years ago. I can see a future where working equipment is being thrown away simply because the manufacturers no longer support the hardware. Sure there may be alternative ways to connect such equipment to allow viewing, but most people want plug and play with no extra effort.
In the border counties of Ireland, (Cavan, Monaghan, Louth, Meath, Westmeath, Donegal) TVs with Saorview (Irish Freeview) can receive the Northern Irish BBC channels and the other British channels, along with RTE, and Virgin Media Television channels. Would Freely put an end to this?
If BBC is involved it won't be free.... You will still have to buy a license so won't be free.
And no doubt you'll need to sign in so the beeb know where you are and if you have a licence when watching channel 5, sorry, ITV.
I think this is great news - I know many friends who live in flats, and they don't want to pay for Sky etc, and have it hard trying to receive the Freeview channels. Streaming them is perfect. The old Freeview system is becoming a dinosaur. Broadband speeds for most are now very good. Even the basic 30MB speed would stream this service reasonably well. TV viewing has changed. I 90% of my TV viewing is online, with Freesat here as a sort of back up.