Mustang Mach-E Road Trip From Los Angeles to Colorado! A Better Experience On The Return Trip?

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  • Kyle heads back to Colorado in the Mustang Mach-E after the trip out west. Will this trip be easier than the one heading out to Cali? We'll see!
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  • @jsnagra1able
    @jsnagra1able 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Why doesn’t Ford set up dedicated high speed charging stations at their dealerships? They’d be easy to find and their dealerships are everywhere. Have a nice little lounge where people can relax while the car is charging.

    • @jaspreetsidhu5708
      @jaspreetsidhu5708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Fuck this is so sensible your name suits your comments.

    • @yamigokumixz
      @yamigokumixz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thats probably because Ford wouldn't want ppl in there just to charge. It would probably be crowded which could strain their selling. Not to mention the amount of money they'd have to shell out to make the chargers alone would probably cut into their bottom line.

    • @jsnagra1able
      @jsnagra1able 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@yamigokumixz people could browse the lot while charging.

    • @LouisDuran
      @LouisDuran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's way too rational

    • @irfanhusein1445
      @irfanhusein1445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Probably the same reason they don’t have dedicated Ford Gas Stations.

  • @nathanwolf5547
    @nathanwolf5547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I love road trips videos like this. Not only do I get to spend time in the car but I get to see your fantastic country in ways that a tourist would not normally see.

    • @andrerodriguez7603
      @andrerodriguez7603 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s for sure, you get to spend allot of time in the Mustang. Especially when trying to get it charged. 😅

  • @PeterGregg
    @PeterGregg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I watched your 2 videos on this trip (and I subbed, thank you). It is shocking, but your 2 videos have impacted me enough were my 100% purchase of the Mustang Mach E this summer has almost totally changed to the Tesla, even if I have to buy a used one. Not many YT videos have ever had that impact on my life. I am not willing to go into my very first ev and have that rough edge strangeness on my dime. I'm not aggressive or bashing, but open eyed enough to put the brakes on my purchase. I'm thanking you, but what an about face I wasn't expecting at all! Thumbs up on these 2 videos for sure 👍👍👍

    • @PhilT993
      @PhilT993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I watched hundreds of videos (including many of Kyle's) like this over a two year period before concluding that Tesla was the only choice for me. Very pleased with my Tesla, but always like to stay informed on the other guys. The Mach-E looks like a fine car, but they have a LOT of sorting left to do on their software and DC fast-charging. It will get sorted eventually.

    • @markfitzpatrick6692
      @markfitzpatrick6692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t believe all this . Kyle made it worse than it is

    • @PhilT993
      @PhilT993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@markfitzpatrick6692 So you're saying that he faked all the connection and failures and charging problems that he actually showed us in the two videos? And the Mustang really shows the charging speeds in the car and doesn't plan a route, using Level 2 chargers, that want you to stop for 8+ hours to charge and that it shows the cities, in the list, where the chargers are located on the planned route? Or that you can't use Ford's plug-and-charge feature and use your EA lower membership discount rate at the same time? Or that it doesn't drop to 12kW when it reaches 80%? Etc, etc. etc.

    • @nkryptit
      @nkryptit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You won't be sorry with a Tesla. There are a lot of reasons they have the best consumer satisfaction rating.

    • @markfitzpatrick6692
      @markfitzpatrick6692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PhilT993 no dont put words in my mouth. Some things like when you know plug and charge doesnt work use the app the rest of trip out and back and not go on and on about it. He chose to keep unplugging all the time when it wasn’t needed just to get a momentary speed boost. It makes the viers blame the network when it isn’t the network all the time. Until the update use the app to charge and see speed

  • @chrism3731
    @chrism3731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    These charging issues are absurd. What happens when a non TH-camr with zero experience runs into a problem? They just get stranded, I can’t imagine Ford will have a roadside service fleet to help people.

    • @mamadouaziza2536
      @mamadouaziza2536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You learn as you go, you get more experience, I had to learn it.

    • @Stushbush
      @Stushbush 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@mamadouaziza2536 I agree with Chis, as a car fan first and a petrol head second, charging should be frictionless, it really should be plug and play. As with most industries where disrupters appear, the incumbents need to raise their game or face irrelevance, and I fear the later is happening here. It seems only Porsche is doing a good job in carrying the torch for the establishment.

    • @someguy8427
      @someguy8427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Stushbush 100% this, Tesla has been able to do this from the start with barely any problems and "Porsche is doing a good job in carrying the torch for the establishment." is definitely true, you shouldn't have to buy a $80-250k sports car for your charging to work.

    • @mamadouaziza2536
      @mamadouaziza2536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Stushbush
      No need for the dramatics..
      This car will be fine. Some chargers work and others don't at EA. As more people use the chargers the more EA will monitor the chargers and immediately fix issues.. A lot of these chargers just sit idle for days or weeks.

    • @635574
      @635574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@mamadouaziza2536 so it comes down to EA being a disorganized mess.

  • @Pala9182
    @Pala9182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    "Honey, can you cook up some popcorn please. Kyle just uploaded another beauty road trip !"

  • @kjdinoc
    @kjdinoc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I find the vehicle so intriguing but the charging problems would drive me nuts.

    • @CraigTemple
      @CraigTemple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This is why I bought a Tesla Y. Sticker shock went away when I calculated how much gas and maintenance my old 2007 Outback was costing me!
      It’s the smoothest experience of any car I’ve driven. This thing is a smartphone compared to flip phones.
      It’s just ludicrously nice to be in. A hundred little quality of life improvements that you wonder why all cars don’t have.

    • @DannyWalker247
      @DannyWalker247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CraigTemple Could you carry a couple extra batteries and jumper cables in the back to extend the range?

    • @CY-wb7ed
      @CY-wb7ed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too.. definitely make me think twice or wait one more year

    • @CraigTemple
      @CraigTemple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@DannyWalker247 Actually yes, there is a portable charging sustem. But, why would I want to?
      If there were no superchargers, hotels, third party fast chargers, free chargers, RV campgrounds, or electrical outlets, AND I was fool enough to ignore all the warnings and automatic calculated charging stops my car provides (a lot more than an ICE car provides), I could STILL get towed to charge by any vehicle on the road. 🤷‍♂️
      Range anxiety is something you have BEFORE you get a Tesla.
      And while we’re asking smug AF smartass questions… can you wake up to a full tank of juice every day from your solar panels? 🤣

    • @jackburns804
      @jackburns804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And you had fairly good weather. Imagine doing all that plugging and unplugging in a rain storm. In fact CAN you charge safely in rain?

  • @alsnow3582
    @alsnow3582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I learned a lot from this video. Thanks for taking the time to record and comment along the way. My take away is that I'm definitely not ready for an EV. When I road trip in my fossil fuel beast, I only have to worry about driving. What you went through would triple the stress. I'll have to wait until the technology matures - a lot.

    • @DukeSan27
      @DukeSan27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tesla has none of these issues.

    • @williamakaholla
      @williamakaholla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea this is a ford issue

    • @yolanda4731
      @yolanda4731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      … or buy a Tesla .

    • @andrerodriguez7603
      @andrerodriguez7603 ปีที่แล้ว

      I often wonder why Ford and GM never made charging infrastructure like Tesla did. Now I think it’s obvious, so no one will want to buy a EV. They can keep making gas cars, that’s where their real revenue comes from.

  • @scottbreseke716
    @scottbreseke716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Kyle, you need to carry a pair of binoculars in the car so that you can read the charging station screen when you're sitting in the car.

    • @solomongabert6776
      @solomongabert6776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🤣😂

    • @markfitzpatrick6692
      @markfitzpatrick6692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No he doesn’t the app shows the charge rate he doesn’t use the functon

    • @markfitzpatrick6692
      @markfitzpatrick6692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jimmy Edward it does for me I use it all the time you just need to know how to use the app and a lot of this negativity could be prevented in these videos

  • @iphonemanYT
    @iphonemanYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I could not imagine staying as calm as you with all these errors. Hope Ford can figure this out

    • @mamadouaziza2536
      @mamadouaziza2536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its not Ford or the car, its EA chargers.. I mean do you blame the car if there are errors within the chargers?

    • @SeanCaldwellvo
      @SeanCaldwellvo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@mamadouaziza2536 How are you certain it's EA? I had an error at a charging station and couldn't get the station to work. A VW pulled up and got it to work fine. I'm not saying it's not EA...perhaps both Ford and EA need to figure out why there's more friction than anyone would like.

    • @DannyWalker247
      @DannyWalker247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This guy really doesn't need to be anywhere so he can play with that electric toy all day long. He is trying to make a living off of people's interest in eVehicles.

  • @lawrencefearon6830
    @lawrencefearon6830 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate this video. Profoundly demonstrated over and over again ad nauseam how little patience I would have for this.

  • @danburkland
    @danburkland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Would be interesting to see you drive the Mach-E away from EA chargers (ND, SD, MN, etc) and see how painful it would be to rely on other 3rd party chargers.

    • @PassionGrows
      @PassionGrows 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@mikeb1039 he’s on a road trip...what garage is he gonna plug into?

    • @chrisw443
      @chrisw443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I avoid EA as a leaf plus driver, its usually a nice card tap and charge. Good ol chademo

    • @s.porter8646
      @s.porter8646 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      get a MYPOD teardrop, and stay at an RV park

  • @anthonygasparini1734
    @anthonygasparini1734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great video! it would be great to see a trip summary, miles traveled, number of charging stops, how long each stop took in minutes and total charge time for miles traveled! Just reserved the Ford f150 lighting most likely use for local travel!

  • @mikeyandell5075
    @mikeyandell5075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. Very informative.

  • @ronfeinberg
    @ronfeinberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I find it odd that you remain so jovial with all these charging issues. The fact that you have Tesla charging experience, yet remain so calm is bewildering. On my 3rd Model S since 2015; I never experienced any issues with supercharging throughout Canada-USA. This video is the best Tesla commercial!

    • @joemcdonough7509
      @joemcdonough7509 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I've had my 2015 Model S for 2 years and while it maxes out at 110kw, I can count on my fingers the number of times I've plugged in a bad supercharger. Plus with superchargers, you know instantly when there's a problem, as they either charge or fail within 10 seconds. At this point, it's clear the plug and play is awful and not working, so at least his app swipe is more reliable, but the charging curve is the worst. With Tesla and Porsche, you can do cannonball road trips with only 15-20 minute charging stops. Not with the Mach-E.

  • @justinkimberlake9582
    @justinkimberlake9582 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So good to see u again, TfL shoulda gave u shares. Never give up. U will make this channel Huge. Love watching ur videos.

  • @heathwirt8919
    @heathwirt8919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You're using the term "bricking" to incorrectly describe a software glitch. Bricking indicates a corruption of firmware or ROM severe enough to prevent a device from booting.

    • @levenkay4468
      @levenkay4468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The key point is an irreversible (by normal customer-accessible means) transition into a non-working state. Allowing the 12V battery to discharge to the point where the car won't start and the doors (and access to the 12V battery) don't open qualifies as "bricking" in my book, although it's not as bad as "traction battery permanently damaged by complete discharge", I suppose.

    • @heathwirt8919
      @heathwirt8919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@levenkay4468 That's not what he was talking about but you're still wrong about the 12VDC battery being dead as bricking the vehicle. The vehicle interior is accessible as is the front trunk. The 12VDC battery can be recharged by several means including the cigarette lighter adapter using an appropriately wired small battery charger.

    • @spur1955
      @spur1955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What difference does it make what you call it ? It still sucks why would anyone with any sense buy a electric car ? Stopping to recharge at a 138 miles is ridiculous.

  • @draughonc
    @draughonc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm glad you put these videos together. Guess I will be waiting before getting one of these Mach-Es. Charging issues aside, 100 miles at a time is nuts.

    • @LGeezus_
      @LGeezus_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m researching this one because I’m considering reserving the 2022 F150 lightning electric truck. I’d love to be able to take it on a long trip now and then looks like I’m going to have to wait on the charging infrastructure to grow and improve.

    • @user-wj4mc9sp8f
      @user-wj4mc9sp8f 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A car designed for BPH sufferers.

    • @JonMoralesLA
      @JonMoralesLA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-wj4mc9sp8f lolz!!!

  • @sjpdawson
    @sjpdawson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This videos are very good, but a suggestion. Overlays of route and charging statistics (how long it took, kwh gained, peaking charging speed, etc) is valuable information. Maybe a trip summary at the end too. You're putting in lots of valuable time to educate the audience, so thank you for that.

    • @markfitzpatrick6692
      @markfitzpatrick6692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can’t beat Bjorn videos

    • @sjpdawson
      @sjpdawson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markfitzpatrick6692 Yeah Bjorn's on another level. I started watching Bjorn to learn about electric vehicles, like their charging speeds, terminology, efficiency, etc. I feel prepared to make an informed transition into EVs when the time is right. Out of Spec Motoring is basically doing that with these road trips for the American audience, but would love to see more technical information presented!

  • @jimcmf2
    @jimcmf2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video .... keep them coming. The drive is beautiful.

  • @bigdeal39
    @bigdeal39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm old school....I like the old Mustang's ! That being said...like someone on this blog said "I'm a car guy first"...so I believe in the future there will be room for everybody ! Gas and Electric !!

  • @malcolmkitti
    @malcolmkitti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid thanks! I have been looking for a Premium RWD with ext battery option in Atlanta. The mark ups are crazy. One dealer wanted MSRP plus $7,000, $599 for a protection package and $699 for paperwork. A second dealer wanted MSRP plus $2,000, $1542 for a "protection package already on the car" and $899 for paperwork. That puts the price in the range of a model Y.

  • @philipmaxwell669
    @philipmaxwell669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the sunny optimistic outlook you convey. It is so true that we can do without fossil fuels and the dangerous aspects of petrol (gas) and diesel engines that pollute the environment and cause illness.

  • @orienteqbano
    @orienteqbano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got my out of spec fix! Thanks for the singularly positive and entertaining experience.

  • @brucenewman6577
    @brucenewman6577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For a person who hates and can barely use a smart phone, this is a nightmare of a science project. Absolutely convinced me that we are a long way from electric auto convenience and usage. At age 19, in 1957, I drove my 1953 Mercury from LA to NY with stopping for gas, checking the oil, water, and on-my-way. Someone tell me this electric trip was more convenient.

  • @tjs114
    @tjs114 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Plug & Charge probably does update during a charging session. There is probably a series of confirmation packets back and forth on some set schedule, either related to x units of power or elapsed time. You might actually be causing a confirmation packet exchange every time you change the screen display on the EA station.

  • @tonyp741
    @tonyp741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kyle, great video, love your road trips. You are blessed with amazing scenery. Thanks for beta testing the car and US charging network!

  • @rjk778855
    @rjk778855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the best thing to put on your second monitor while you work. It's like lofi hiphop radio with charging station frustrations mixed in lol

  • @juliem1421
    @juliem1421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Hate to sound like a Tesla fan girl but what a charging mess. This doesn’t help EV adoption 😕

    • @GaudiHitByTram
      @GaudiHitByTram 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Don't know if its a EA thing or a Mustang thing but at least in Europe the CCS charging sessions are pretty smooth

    • @2013AirForce
      @2013AirForce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@GaudiHitByTram Yeah, looking at Bjorn’s experience in Norway using Ionity, Mer, Circle K, etc. and all the third party public DC fast chargers it does seem like Europe DCFC performs 99% flawlessly, like what Tesla is able to achieve.

    • @dmiller9786
      @dmiller9786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      100 miles per leg for a 1000 mile trip is ridiculous. I'm exhausted just watching the video. It doesn't look good for EA that the ID4 apparently works better on their system than non-VW brands.

    • @DannyWalker247
      @DannyWalker247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@dmiller9786 I go 400 miles a tank in my Ford Edge. I could have been way down the road while he was fooling around in some Walmart parking lot with that charging mess. And those charging stations look like a good place to get robbed.

    • @stevegrimes5105
      @stevegrimes5105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2013AirForce Europe also standardized on CCS2, I wish we would be as sensible

  • @tomhanhart5921
    @tomhanhart5921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic these impressive, wide landscapes. Following this road trip was really a great pleasure!
    I myself have been using an i3 for three years for commuting and regional trips. For this purpose, I consider EVs to be practical without reservation. But if you are constantly driving long distances and under time pressure, you better wait for the spread of 800V systems that allow charging with 250kW and more.
    Here in Switzerland with the many high mountains and hills, the recuperation (regen) effect is enormously high. It is sometimes unbelievable how much energy is recovered by this. Also the immediate full torque of BEV is a huge advantage when going uphill.

  • @nobrien1
    @nobrien1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing your experiences! For some reason, the sound wasn't synch'd with the video for me.

  • @nolaholmes62
    @nolaholmes62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have amazing patience! I would have put my fist through the charger 10 times by now!

  • @ronkemperful
    @ronkemperful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liked your comments concerning the great views around Grand Junction. I used to live there and have fond memories spending time with family and friends. Be sure to pop up to Grand Mesa and down to Durango... that would be an interesting tour in an electric. Great video!

  • @williamstaylor_
    @williamstaylor_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Could you please do a review of Apple Maps EV routing with the Mach E?

  • @georgeleong1572
    @georgeleong1572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I highly agree with a recent comment about the charging issues, especially the hour long time to charge each stop, even on a level 3 charger. There isn't a remote start on the key fob, you'll need to set up and use your cell phone. That's nuts. And the tough time with billing it. Soooo inconvenient. I really wanted to like this car. Great vid tho. Love all the views of the mountains and plains.

  • @slidewaze
    @slidewaze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Loving the road trips.

  • @billkaroly
    @billkaroly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Please tell us how much time you spent charging. Low long was the return trip overall? What was the total cost spent charging?

  • @mikeporet5655
    @mikeporet5655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I just took my first ever EV road trip in my own Mach e (incidentally I hit A LOT of the same chargers as Kyle along the I-15).
    And I've gotta say I think Kyle had unique struggles. Using the EA app I had a near perfect charging experience. Not perfect, but close.

  • @mrlordbrutish
    @mrlordbrutish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I’d love to see summaries of these road trips, how much time was spent charging and what the total cost was.

    • @asmbyjk4577
      @asmbyjk4577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah why the scenery is highlighted??? Uhhh? Just say road trip.

    • @alfredpissi4718
      @alfredpissi4718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If he does that, nobody will buy electric cars.

    • @cakearmy_maxgaming6346
      @cakearmy_maxgaming6346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alfredpissi4718 idk abt that. For a commuter car, electric sounds really nice, especially with the 7,500 tax credit

    • @alfredpissi4718
      @alfredpissi4718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cakearmy_maxgaming6346 Sounds nice to you paying $.43/kwh or waiting for two hours to charge 40% of the battery? I'll keep my Rogue.

    • @thecarguy2470
      @thecarguy2470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cakearmy_maxgaming6346 Biden killed the tax credit and now charges taxes on electric cars.. What this guy failed to mention is the extended range battery is an extra 18,500

  • @OrangutanSquash
    @OrangutanSquash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Watching Bjorn Nyland’s road trips really make me feel that the US non-Tesla charging network is way behind Europe, well at least Norway. I’d really like to be able to recommend something other than a Tesla EV but charging issues like this would make it difficult for non tech savvy people. An 8 hour charging stop recommended by the car is crazy.

    • @davidsommen1324
      @davidsommen1324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Although you might certainly be right about the discrepancy between Europe and US in terms of non-Tesla charging infrastructure, the problems featured in this and the previous video mostly or completely stem from the car's software issues... would probably be the same in Europe is what I'm saying.

    • @sjpdawson
      @sjpdawson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@davidsommen1324 I disagree. If you've watched his previous videos he has had issues with many many chargers across many parts of the US. It's not just the Ford's issue, but also EA and their chargers/software.

    • @dorsalmorsel2811
      @dorsalmorsel2811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Keep in mind that we don't have plug and charge here in Europe yet. Kyle didn't have problems on the way back when he used the app.

    • @joshuarosen465
      @joshuarosen465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I seem to remember that the Polestar gave Bjorn some trouble but everything else seems to work. The UK reviewers seem to have a terrible time with non Tesla

    • @joshuarosen465
      @joshuarosen465 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I I seem to remember the Bjorn had trouble with the Polestar but everything else is seamless The UK reviewers seem to have even more trouble than Kyle is having except of course at Tesla superchargers which works perfectly in the UK as they do here

  • @RLohms
    @RLohms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Any additional commentary on the actual driving experience? I'm looking at going EV for my commute to work - will be charging at home - 50 miles round trip per day - very interested in the Mach-e. Appreciate all your road trips and work on EVs !

    • @OutofSpecMotoring
      @OutofSpecMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Plenty of videos on Out of Spec Reviews on this topic

  • @basementstudio7574
    @basementstudio7574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your road trip videos. Please please please do one of these road trip videos with an ID.4

  • @mosesestrada
    @mosesestrada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Holy crap I cant imagine living like this with the poor charging. Im a big petrol head, and i honestly know EV is the future, but man I hope things get a lot more efficient with non Tesla EVs soon

  • @tommckinney1489
    @tommckinney1489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good info, but what kind of efficiency (m/kWh) did you get?

  • @calindinis2050
    @calindinis2050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whenever I see US drivers overtaking trucks on the right side lane I get the chills 3:33. Awesome drive though. Love the video

  • @nbkhra3
    @nbkhra3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the driving scenes with the relaxing music.

  • @CaviDS
    @CaviDS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    on the larger climb from Grand Junction, how many miles was it and how much battery did you use? more importantly on the climb to the top of the pass what was the miles/Kw?

  • @RChyshkevych
    @RChyshkevych 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching these videos, especially for the charging experience makes me realize my mom would already lose it with the public charging. Going to keep at least 1 roadtrip gas car as long as possible just for the convenience and ease of mind that non-Tesla EV charging doesn't offer yet.

  • @jimtrick
    @jimtrick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These road trips and analyses are excellent. Would be nice to compare the User Interface between Tesla and Mustang. Mustang seems complicated - is all that info really helpful? Does the Mustang provide voice command option?

  • @twcz3
    @twcz3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    30:04 stopped here once driving out east. Thought it was weird they installed the chargers right next to a Windows AC unit. Always nice to getting a lot of hot air blowing on you and your charging unit. The burger joint across the street does a good burger if your hungry.

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you like the scenery in Grand Junction you gotta take the ride from Grand Junction south to Durango. It's amazing.
    No charging though. I have talked to EA about the need for a charger in durango at least. Ouray and Taos too would be even better.

  • @mikecarter2737
    @mikecarter2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always great to see long range trip charging issues shown. "All EVs do this" (coldgating) - you will find some do not mind lower temps (Leaf, for example, very happy @40°F).

  • @opinionator3884
    @opinionator3884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought it might be a good idea to read a book during these long charging sessions and remembered that In the old days before high-speed internet, I would read several pages of a book while waiting for a web page to load. Road-tripping in a Mach-e vs. the family CR-V would be like going to dial-up from high-speed internet.

  • @dconner9
    @dconner9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you EV Dave for buying this car and allowing Kyle to do all the testing to share. For those that haven’t checked out his TH-cam channel, you are missing out!

  • @mixdupjoe
    @mixdupjoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way the wording on the FordPass Charging Network terms of service is written it's very likely that Ford will sell their own charging (probably at lower rates)
    instead of allowing you to link your EA pass to Plug and Charge. It refers to the kWh bundle in such a way that they will probably sell kWh bundles that work just like the free 250/500 kWh bundle worked

  • @rfleming7883
    @rfleming7883 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some questions you may have answered but I missed the answers; 1. Distance between charging stations, 2. Speed at which the car was traveling 3. Altitude gains or losses between stations 4. Cost of each recharge and 5. Actual time spent recharging. Thanks for the answers to these and for these informative videos.

  • @deltoncbaker
    @deltoncbaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have find excuses to get out and walk for exercise. I can get about 7000 steps for every hour I walk. Someone should build strip malls around these chargers to take advantage of the idol time people will have while charging. An electrified world is going to change even to way we shop, it’s mind blowing!

  • @SeanCaldwellvo
    @SeanCaldwellvo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kyle, thanks for taking the time to capture, edit, and share the content. We love our Mach E and have charged it at home or regionally with a community 50kWh charger with zero problems. Hoping some of the EA charging difficulty is worked out before the summer trips we have planned. Charing consistently at 150 kWh and a bit longer in the curve would sure help on long road trips.

  • @pesken
    @pesken 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can unlink the plug n charge in the fordpass app, so it won't bother you anymore more and you can just use EA directly.

  • @AlvaroCardoza
    @AlvaroCardoza 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thinking of getting one

  • @barryvanorden9260
    @barryvanorden9260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We just canceled from getting a Mustang Mach E after watching your two road trip videos. We cannot get a car with such an unreliable charging experience. We do not want a Tesla and may need to wait for a more reliable charging experience to be rolledout. Thank you for posting these videos and saving us potential hell on road trips. I'd flip out if having to plug in up to seven times at one location.

    • @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry
      @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why not into a Tesla?

    • @barryvanorden9260
      @barryvanorden9260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry Not sure, not a big fan of Tesla although a lot of people are. I'm looking at the new Kia.

    • @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry
      @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barryvanorden9260 I'm just curious about what puts you off about Tesla. If it's price, I totally get it. Their cheapest offering now is at about 40k before any state rebates. If the new infrastructure bill goes through, it'll be about 10k off. So you'd basically get a car that can 1000 miles for $30 in electric if charged at home, with the speed of a sports car, while being the safest car ever made, and most efficient. Their charging network is robust. It's like when cellphones started, the only thing that mattered was the reach and reliability of the network. That's pretty much where we are now. Tesla is the only game in town so long as the overall charging network that isn't Tesla made continuous to be as wonky as it is.

    • @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry
      @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GoogleDoesEvil that's only for the high power chargers. Most people charge 99% of the time at home for about $30 a month to go 1000 miles.

  • @StubbyStan28
    @StubbyStan28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wish I knew how long each charging session was. I'm planning on my next new vehicle to be a non-Tesla EV & whether it becomes a road trip vehicle is wholly dependent on how often I would need to charge & how quickly they take.

  • @PhilT993
    @PhilT993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Research, folks, research". Wise words indeed!!

    • @DannyWalker247
      @DannyWalker247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think people want to do research to go on a couple hundred mile road trip. I am driving up to Georgia next week for a wedding and I will use navigation for about the last 25 miles or so. That is all the tech I care to use.

    • @PhilT993
      @PhilT993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DannyWalker247 Hi Danny, the research we are referring to is before you buy the car to make sure it is the best choice for you. I did over a year of research, mostly on TH-cam, before deciding that a Tesla as opposed to any non-Tesla, was the best choice for me. I bought a 2021 Long Range Model 3 in December and am very pleased with it. I did my first 1000 mile trip last weekend and it was completely effortless and fun.

    • @DannyWalker247
      @DannyWalker247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PhilT993 Glad you like your Tesla. I will probably buy one myself when they get the range up to 400 miles but right now I am sticking with my Ford Edge.

  • @St0iK_
    @St0iK_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you have a breakdown of all the data for miles driven between charging, the percentages, cost and time?

  • @EdA-bz3bu
    @EdA-bz3bu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that is why got a plug in hybrid for the wife. when we went to the Syracuse mall all the spots were takin up with SUVs and security would not do anything about it. luckily had gas.

  • @JookySeaCpt
    @JookySeaCpt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope you reached out to Ford about the Radar/ Adaptive Cruise Control issue. That's pretty serious, and as you said, sometimes radars get blinded in bad weather, but every other automaker throws a dashboard warning when it happens. You even have footage of it, which can really help their engineers figure out what went wrong.

  • @Alexdiaz727
    @Alexdiaz727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm curious how much the same trip would cost if you were driving a Tesla. Would be interested to see a price comparison taking into account supercharging network costs per kw and Tesla miles per kw. Notice with the plug and charge vs the swipe you mentioned you don't care that much about price you just wish it would start charging but over time its going to add up.

  • @ronsexton3685
    @ronsexton3685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good info. Those charging issues are worrying.

  • @nathanlinares5503
    @nathanlinares5503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Have loved seeing the Mach E's roadtrip and charging complications. Will we see an ID.4 roadtrip too? :)

  • @nickaston2468
    @nickaston2468 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, thank you. Electrify America, Ford, VW and other EV manufacturers really have to make the whole charging experience seamless and simple. It has to be like filling up with gas. You arrive at a charging station, plug in, charge and leave. There are not too many people who really understand kW/hr charging rates and will not be bothered to learn. All of the quirks and pitfalls have to be ironed out. Thank you for showing us that EVs aren't ready for prime time. It'll come but it's going to take time.

  • @mrchongnoi
    @mrchongnoi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    After viewing your video on the id4 and now the Mustang, I think I will keep with my first choice Tesla. Maybe I should wait for the 1.x version of each. Great two videos.

  • @etdweasel
    @etdweasel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That snow on the radar cruise sensor causing car to not slow down: My 2019 Prius (XW50) does exactly the same thing in snow/moderately heavy rain.

  • @ferfromla
    @ferfromla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are doing all of us a big favor by sharing your road trip experience. A Ford Mustang would be a pain to take on a long road trip for the average person. Seems to me that if you stick with everyday urban/suburban driving where you can charge overnight, the Mustang would be no problem. But we are still early in this transition, and with time the technology should get better, making it possible to take long trips without the fear of becoming stranded. The best solution for those that drive long distances would be to get a plug-in hybrid for the immediate future.

    • @user-wj4mc9sp8f
      @user-wj4mc9sp8f 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. Yet, these problems appear to be software glitches. If so, they will be worked out in a relatively short time (

  • @jimmurphy5355
    @jimmurphy5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any update re charging issues? Are they sorted out now, about a year later?

  • @rocurs165
    @rocurs165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love these road trip videos!

  • @h8GW
    @h8GW 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live on the East Coast and OMG I crave some JitB whenever I got to the West Coast....which has been precisely twice. You don't know what you've been missing.
    The closest thing we have here is maybe Checkers.

  • @highchata
    @highchata 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long did it take you to charge in vegas? Is it quick like 15 mins?

  • @hermanwooster8944
    @hermanwooster8944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd love to see how cross-country trips are redefined with the 500+ mile range EVs coming out, including the Tesla Plaid+, Cybertruck, and Lucid Air. Good stuff.

    • @dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
      @dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To me, 300 miles is good enough. The issue is the speed of charge. We need to get to the point where you can charge in 10 minutes or less. Charging for an hour is simply unacceptable. The good thing is, most people are doing this types of road trips often. The last time I traveled more than 300 miles had to have been 10 years ago! But to get to the point where nobody can complain, we need to get to the point where you're in and out in under 10 minutes.

    • @hermanwooster8944
      @hermanwooster8944 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 As long as it's a true 300 miles, then I can agree. I know some vehicles lose their range significantly in the winter or on the highway.

    • @zguy95135
      @zguy95135 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Yep. The Taycan, despite having a relatively short range, is one of the fastest road tripping EVs because of how fast it charges. It better be though its $$$. Also kind of at the mercy of the charging companies and 350 chargers.

    • @Sanctified_EDC_Gear
      @Sanctified_EDC_Gear ปีที่แล้ว

      The CyberTruck will never get produced !!!

  • @tjmark67
    @tjmark67 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the blog

  • @TheRealMerchyBautista
    @TheRealMerchyBautista 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure if it's because i bought my Mach-e in California, but i have free 500kw ford pass charge as oppose to 250kw. I also had the same problem when I tried using the plug-in charge. both ford and EA confuse each other so i just been sticking with the EA app.

  • @jodifortner1640
    @jodifortner1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long would you say it takes to fully charge a Telsa and this vehicle?

  • @josephocharles
    @josephocharles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trailblazer! Thanks for the post and someday our kids will probably get 1,000 miles on a battery!

  • @chibianh7700
    @chibianh7700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Would be interesting to see a "race" between this and a Tesla cross country. See how much time difference these charging networks affect long road trips.

    • @OutofSpecMotoring
      @OutofSpecMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Coming up next week!

    • @crBudgetWatches
      @crBudgetWatches 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good one

    • @peteglass3496
      @peteglass3496 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kyle will hate me to mention Bjorn Nyland but he does 1000km [620ml] tests on everything in Norway and indeed Teslas top the table in shortest times across their range. However a few of the big German models are now coming closer. Bjorn films in English of course, however do note the DC charging network in Norway is much denser than the US [or even the UK] so he can optimise the trip in a very fine grained way. No sign of Plug and Charge in Europe yet...

    • @jimjr9143
      @jimjr9143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A (real) test. Not one where a group of engineers are following your whole trip. Sheesh

  • @chuckg7311
    @chuckg7311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At this point and part 1 my wife would leave me a pillow and blanket, take the phone for Uber to the nearest airport and GOODBYE. See you at home if you get there.

  • @bernardp3899
    @bernardp3899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello.. New to mach e here and ev charging. So we get 250 or 500kwh from Ford in EA stations. And which is better to use ford or ea apps?

  • @jeffreyderoche4499
    @jeffreyderoche4499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoying your reviews on the Mustang. Do you know of anyone doing reviews in the hotter regions like Florida? Would really be interested in how well the vehicle cools and charges in the heat of our summers.

    • @OutofSpecMotoring
      @OutofSpecMotoring  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We get just as hot as Florida where we live in the high desert!

    • @elledechenestudio
      @elledechenestudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine is on its way to South Florida, and I’m worried about how it will fare in my very hot garage.

  • @godislove025
    @godislove025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos! Every video you do makes me love my Tesla more and more !

  • @Allcarnews
    @Allcarnews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aaaaaand there goes my morning sleep in, have to watch!

  • @wdrdiyman1674
    @wdrdiyman1674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be nice to see a summary of the charging times over percentage spans and miles covered after each charging event. And the cost of the entire trip too. Real-world numbers for possible EV purchasers. Thank you !!

  • @jonsmith1259
    @jonsmith1259 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you use the heater during the drive? Primarily, just a commuter vehicle, especially if a person bought the non-extended range. 2 or 3 times a year, I drive Dallas to Houston 238 miles, my driveway to the hotel (which does not have charging) 90% interstate. That would not work for me too well...........

  • @dancook4993
    @dancook4993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Those charging prices are insane compared to gas prices wow

    • @27Zangle
      @27Zangle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. A nice used diesel Passat with low miles is a MUCH better option at these prices.

    • @MarTin-ku4lx
      @MarTin-ku4lx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s $4.25 a gallon here in west coast.

    • @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry
      @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@27Zangle only if you use these stations for all of your charging needs

  • @YeOldeTraveller
    @YeOldeTraveller 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see an updated Mach-E Charge Curve video.

  • @daviddahan3204
    @daviddahan3204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own the red MME 4X and love it. Looks great, outside & inside. Surround sound is amazing. Lane centering is awesome. Charge at home each night and have the equivalent of ⅔ full gas tank each morning (250 miles). For long trips, however, I take my old ICE car which is more convenient than any EV. Why make a long trip even longer? I’ll wait for 5 minute 0-100% charging before using an EV for long trips.

    • @user-wj4mc9sp8f
      @user-wj4mc9sp8f 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like a practical plan, if you can afford two vehicles. Alternately, one might rent an ICE vehicle for infrequent long trips.

  • @Maverick19959
    @Maverick19959 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish you’d told us how long it took you to charge each time, also why would you charge every 150 miles? Doesn’t it hold the charge for up to 300 miles?

  • @TeslaEVVideos
    @TeslaEVVideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your cheerful personality is very much needed when you have this ford EV.
    IMO -- Tesla is still the way to go..... that is until Electrify America and ev's like Ford's can clean up the software and make long drive charging as smooth and quick just like Tesla currently does.
    I've also experienced this app issue on my VW app when I charge my 2016 eGolf back in the day... I was so glad I only leased it -- and eventually switched to the flawless tesla ev charging eco system.

  • @JP-sw5ho
    @JP-sw5ho ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn’t it be nice if EA would issue rfid cards, so you don’t have to fumble with an app all the time?
    Also how would you feel about e ink displays instead of lcd’s for these stations ?

  • @GSP-76
    @GSP-76 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Electrify America stations work 10x more reliably today vs when this video was made, thank goodness...at least on the east coast where I live.

  • @billwatkins8227
    @billwatkins8227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok I’ve been got it now. The Mustang is a windshield used to stare at charging stations .Does it actually go anywhere in my lifetime?

  • @abbaby555
    @abbaby555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'd like to see a road trip with the id4,

    • @DouglasBailey
      @DouglasBailey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      there are a few out there. Seems like VW nailed charging curve and is avoiding all these Mustang issues.

  • @jackfishcampbell6745
    @jackfishcampbell6745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok I apologize, for complaining about the music , it wasn't super invasive . That car has a beautiful colour . The whole trip like a pita in that car .

  • @lynyrd65YT
    @lynyrd65YT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    12:26 you almost said it, almost 😅
    Don’t worry I won’t tell Doug 😆