Will be incredibly strong. More than likely, stronger than from the factory. Just think, with using composite throughout, no one will ever have to go through what you guy went through, rebuilding her. Outstanding work.
Did that phone thing in Portland Maine on a cruise ship, RICE DON'T WORK, your gf's great, looking forward to seeing the blue boat run, Thanks Enjoying the boat content
Awesome job and demonstration! I think some of this is fungible for other lightweight projects in the future where strength and weight can be maximized and minimized, respectively. Well done.
Man that looks GREAT! Nice progress. Dig the Rotiforms. Pretty sure my buddy had the same set on his mk5 gti. Guessing they're for your avant? I'm not a boat builder, but based on my experience working with composites I think it'll be plenty strong with the 2 layers. Definitely looks very uniform the way you split the sections, and the fact that the 'empty' space between the tunnels underneath isn't spanning over a huge hollow spot will make it pretty strong/ less likely to flex as is. The cavity is narrow enough that I don't think it will 'bow' or twist or anything like that. I keep looking at the shape of the hull, and I really like the design of it. I think it would look absolutely killer with a sick vinyl wrap on it. Will definitely keep watching this build, its pretty sweet 😎👍🤙
Yeah, they're what I run on the UrS6 but they're pretty trashed, curbed lightly when I bought them and then clipped a curb a few years ago, need to get them remachined/refinished one of these days. I'm more worried about setting an anchor on it or something... and cracking the top layer.
i wonder if the piston blocks the oilhole for the oilfeed on the down part of the hydraulics maibe you can put something along the ciinders to act as stops so the completely trimmed out possition is a little less than where it locks up if you where to take the cilinders apart and rebuild them you could add a small piece of pipe as a limit spacer on the inside slid over the ram so it doesnt happen again you could allso use a small burr grinder and lengten the oilfeedhole hole toward the end of that side of the cilinder inside the cilinder or drill a tiny hole at an angle inside the original hole to get past the piston blocking the original
I agree, in a nutshell some sort of limiter/ spacer block should do the trick so it isn't able to fully extend itself to the point where it jams up. Should be something worth investigating for sure so you don't have to deal with the hassle of messing with it in the future.
And a LOT lighter, and way stronger. Air entrapment hulls benefit a lot from weight reduction, as they air out easier and further. Will basically be an airplane above 50-60mph, can't wait!
Y’all are doing an excellent job. Need to make sure that the pistons on the polish rods of your trim cylinders aren’t installed backwards and covering the hydraulic ports when it’s trimmed all the way up. It’s an easy mistake to fix.
Actually laughed out loud on that one. No big deal to check,pop one off,take the lines off and see if the pressure port is blocked with the cylinder all the way out. Still doing a great job in my book.
@18:45 - "Whatever happened to Emilio Estevez?" Since 2021, he has been in one film, "Brats" (a documentary about the "Brat Pack"), and starred in the television series "The Mighty Ducks: Game Changers" (2021-2022). (Per Wikipedia) Seems to have been pretty quiet since then.
Awesome work, sick boat! Did I miss the vid of splash well delete or replacement? At 1:26 you might be thinking about it wrong, (not that more tabbing is ever bad) the outboard torques sideways heavily twisting the transom, pushes from the bottom actually pulling the top of the transom back and pushes hard on near the center of the transom where the bottom of the engine mount or jack plate is fastened. If you want to get a solid grasp of what happens with the torque of an outboard take your flea or something with a little 25hp and loosen the clamps a bit just play around you'll find that it tries to twist off from one side more than anything and seems to pull the top of the transom back way more than you would think. Point being that knee should be created to be flush with the splash well going up as high as possible and tabbed to the splash well also.
There's one more episode after this one, so far. Yeah, I know what you mean. I guess I was thinking of something more violent like a log strike. The mini knees are as high as they can go without hitting the splashwell.
Old ones, this is a 78 so it has the old school trim pump/reservoir that nobody makes parts or seals for. Believe it's stock mercruiser 260/pre alpha vintage.
@@ADDvanced If this model has a reverse hold down valve on it those have a little adjustable guage on it with two white arrows that need to align properly in a set shft position blah blah typical blah mercruiser crap. If it does the simple fix is bypass it. Yes that simple. They either stick like yours or malfunction and blow apart one of the trim cylinders when triming down. Should be a line coming from trim cylinders to valve then another from valve to trim motor. This short one is almost always plastic. Just hook the line from trim cylnders directly to bottom of pump after you remove the other line to valve. It never needed the valve to Begin with. Also there is two wires attached to it also. Disconnect those also. You may have to change or adapt a fitting or two. Uses standard brake line fittings. Hope that helps. Your trusted Mercury mechanic in TN. No dark comments with this one LoL. Good luck
This is inspiring me to take on my own boat project. What are the plans for the outside? It looks like there is some kind of clear coat. Can you wet sand, compound, and wax or do you have to go through the process of putting some kind of clear back over it?
I've pressure washed a lot of it off, but end goal is to remove all the trim, wet sand it, and polish. Won't be perfect but should look pretty good overall.
Could be it slams pres full tilt sticks from that sudden hit at the top maybe. I don't think if it were a ram it would come down at all. Unless you loose elect contact due to a switch but you are smart enough to know the difference lol
I am seriously loving this channel, and also now scrolling through craigslist looking for similar hulls lol I need to replace a small portion of my cuddy cabin floor. My plan was to cut out the rot, brace underneath as necessary, glass that in, and then replace the decking with either coosa, nidacore, or 3/4" plywood. Should I glass up the new floor (bottom side, facing the keel), then place it down, allowing everything to dry at once? Or should I just glass up the whole panel, add more resin/cabosil (between keel/floor), and then place it down? Do you have any recommendations?
I don't think it really matters either way, I would just do whatever you are more comfortable with, and whichever seems easier to you. I glassed the bottom of my core and installed it with the top unfinished. This allowed any excess glass from the floor to wrap on the sides, down into the tunnels, giving it even more strength/bonding surface. Hope that makes sense, and thanks for the words!
Almost got our Carlson completely stripped to the hull. Got my girlfriend helping me as well. I love it. Bonding over a boat. Also what would you say ballpark figure you have in the composite and material to this point
Missed my Sunday watch of this episode. Must be age! lol. Keep at it guys. What's the plan for the new indestructible Transom? the new 12 cylinder Merc Verado? shit sorry i forgot this is a budget build! The beers are talking now! TC
Job well done Couple.I hope you remember to add some Fiberglass on the Hull where it was thin (right side) Boss lady always shines. If you have Verizon service they have a Great Deal on a Pre Cert. IPhone 11 Pro Max cell phone free just have to get a new number. I di it and Save $750.00. Take Care you two. Sir please put a Ring on Her
@@ADDvanced sir. You can get a Free IPhone 11plus max at Verizon on line. $700 free. But I understand. Yes the Videos are Sweet. Please check out how the surfboard Man colors his Surfboard. That would be Cool on yours. Please look Greg
@@ADDvanced sir I know that but I was trying to say this may be Cool and Last Longer.go Bendheim Boardson TH-cam then longboard glass. Watch how he Colors the Surf board. Just a Thought. Peace
@@ADDvanced Thanks bud! Nice timing, I just about got an old hydrostream ready for new floor and haven't decided if it's plywood or otherwise, your reply made me remember to check out other materials!
Red boat isn’t very dangerous and you sit way down inside it. Not going to have a blow over or get tossed in that thing. The SST will be a totally different story.
the core material is the anti crush aspect while the fiberglass skins ont he outside is what keep the anti crush cores from being floppy.... you guys ignored this and didn't fiberglass the undersides of the floor nidacore... the floor just won't be as stiff as it would of been if you had understood the purpose of a core material does... you neglected to the bottom so that floor is only half as strong to sagging.
Will be incredibly strong. More than likely, stronger than from the factory. Just think, with using composite throughout, no one will ever have to go through what you guy went through, rebuilding her. Outstanding work.
Thanks for the kind words!
I'm disabled. I love your cabosil mixing cup and cap. I just smoke a joint mixing it by hand .
No matter how bad your boating adventure started, you still had that great looking camera operator next to you, so it's still a win. 👍😉
Good day to be outside!
Hello from Siesta Key Florida.
She's looking good and sturdy.
And yes the transom is looking good to , along with the floors .
haha, nice.
My Sunday is complete! Thanks again you two. 🤘🏽
Late release, had to finish working on it this morning :P
That boat is way better than when it was built
Agree, they built this one like crap. Stringer was just tabbed to the floor, raw wood everywhere. So dumb.
So hooked. Liking what your doing.
Easy to watch .
Awesome, thank you!
That's gonna be a awesome boat when finished !
Hope so 👍
Looked so forward to this video.
Awesome!
Did that phone thing in Portland Maine on a cruise ship, RICE DON'T WORK, your gf's great, looking forward to seeing the blue boat run, Thanks Enjoying the boat content
Thanks man! Yeah that phone is trashed... it's from 2016 so it had a good run.
Awesome job and demonstration! I think some of this is fungible for other lightweight projects in the future where strength and weight can be maximized and minimized, respectively. Well done.
Thanks! It seems sturdy but it's been raining all day so I haven't walked on it yet
I restored a 87 Vangaurd Phantom , my X girlfriend watched the days of our lives and drank wine .
That's no fun!
Again......Fuggin RIPPER!!!!
Great progress!
fuggin ripper boys! almost time to celly
Your story sounds like my typical day
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Man that looks GREAT! Nice progress. Dig the Rotiforms. Pretty sure my buddy had the same set on his mk5 gti. Guessing they're for your avant? I'm not a boat builder, but based on my experience working with composites I think it'll be plenty strong with the 2 layers. Definitely looks very uniform the way you split the sections, and the fact that the 'empty' space between the tunnels underneath isn't spanning over a huge hollow spot will make it pretty strong/ less likely to flex as is. The cavity is narrow enough that I don't think it will 'bow' or twist or anything like that. I keep looking at the shape of the hull, and I really like the design of it. I think it would look absolutely killer with a sick vinyl wrap on it. Will definitely keep watching this build, its pretty sweet 😎👍🤙
Yeah, they're what I run on the UrS6 but they're pretty trashed, curbed lightly when I bought them and then clipped a curb a few years ago, need to get them remachined/refinished one of these days. I'm more worried about setting an anchor on it or something... and cracking the top layer.
i wonder if the piston blocks the oilhole for the oilfeed on the down part of the hydraulics maibe you can put something along the ciinders to act as stops so the completely trimmed out possition is a little less than where it locks up
if you where to take the cilinders apart and rebuild them you could add a small piece of pipe as a limit spacer on the inside slid over the ram so it doesnt happen again
you could allso use a small burr grinder and lengten the oilfeedhole hole toward the end of that side of the cilinder inside the cilinder or drill a tiny hole at an angle inside the original hole to get past the piston blocking the original
I agree, in a nutshell some sort of limiter/ spacer block should do the trick so it isn't able to fully extend itself to the point where it jams up. Should be something worth investigating for sure so you don't have to deal with the hassle of messing with it in the future.
I'm headed to Havasu with my carrera viper in 3 days first trip of the summer,
Sweeeeeet! Get it!
so this boat will be rot free after all you done sweet
And a LOT lighter, and way stronger. Air entrapment hulls benefit a lot from weight reduction, as they air out easier and further. Will basically be an airplane above 50-60mph, can't wait!
Gods job you two
Thanks!
Y’all are doing an excellent job. Need to make sure that the pistons on the polish rods of your trim cylinders aren’t installed backwards and covering the hydraulic ports when it’s trimmed all the way up. It’s an easy mistake to fix.
hmmmm some idiot rebuilt these trim rams like 10 years ago. Me. So it's entirely possible.
Actually laughed out loud on that one. No big deal to check,pop one off,take the lines off and see if the pressure port is blocked with the cylinder all the way out. Still doing a great job in my book.
No need cut corners on tabs. Shape them before you resin. Then cover with mat to about later sanding
@18:45 - "Whatever happened to Emilio Estevez?"
Since 2021, he has been in one film, "Brats" (a documentary about the "Brat Pack"), and starred in the television series "The Mighty Ducks: Game Changers" (2021-2022). (Per Wikipedia)
Seems to have been pretty quiet since then.
Awesome work, sick boat! Did I miss the vid of splash well delete or replacement? At 1:26 you might be thinking about it wrong, (not that more tabbing is ever bad) the outboard torques sideways heavily twisting the transom, pushes from the bottom actually pulling the top of the transom back and pushes hard on near the center of the transom where the bottom of the engine mount or jack plate is fastened. If you want to get a solid grasp of what happens with the torque of an outboard take your flea or something with a little 25hp and loosen the clamps a bit just play around you'll find that it tries to twist off from one side more than anything and seems to pull the top of the transom back way more than you would think. Point being that knee should be created to be flush with the splash well going up as high as possible and tabbed to the splash well also.
There's one more episode after this one, so far. Yeah, I know what you mean. I guess I was thinking of something more violent like a log strike. The mini knees are as high as they can go without hitting the splashwell.
I know what issue is. If you could give me a shot of transom bracket inside boat. Need to see which trim components are in it.
Old ones, this is a 78 so it has the old school trim pump/reservoir that nobody makes parts or seals for. Believe it's stock mercruiser 260/pre alpha vintage.
@@ADDvanced If this model has a reverse hold down valve on it those have a little adjustable guage on it with two white arrows that need to align properly in a set shft position blah blah typical blah mercruiser crap. If it does the simple fix is bypass it. Yes that simple. They either stick like yours or malfunction and blow apart one of the trim cylinders when triming down. Should be a line coming from trim cylinders to valve then another from valve to trim motor. This short one is almost always plastic. Just hook the line from trim cylnders directly to bottom of pump after you remove the other line to valve. It never needed the valve to Begin with. Also there is two wires attached to it also. Disconnect those also. You may have to change or adapt a fitting or two. Uses standard brake line fittings. Hope that helps. Your trusted Mercury mechanic in TN. No dark comments with this one LoL. Good luck
After all that you most definitely have to take it out.
I work on boats from 9:00 to 5:00 I feel your pain man.
This is inspiring me to take on my own boat project. What are the plans for the outside? It looks like there is some kind of clear coat. Can you wet sand, compound, and wax or do you have to go through the process of putting some kind of clear back over it?
I've pressure washed a lot of it off, but end goal is to remove all the trim, wet sand it, and polish. Won't be perfect but should look pretty good overall.
Sounds like a check valve in the trim pump. Try taking it apart and clean it
I'm not sure that makes sense, since it operates fine/reliably as long as you don't go allllll the way up to full tilt.
Could be it slams pres full tilt sticks from that sudden hit at the top maybe. I don't think if it were a ram it would come down at all. Unless you loose elect contact due to a switch but you are smart enough to know the difference lol
Great vid, some foam down center would have increased rigidity.
There was a coosa stringer in the middle to support it.
I am seriously loving this channel, and also now scrolling through craigslist looking for similar hulls lol
I need to replace a small portion of my cuddy cabin floor. My plan was to cut out the rot, brace underneath as necessary, glass that in, and then replace the decking with either coosa, nidacore, or 3/4" plywood. Should I glass up the new floor (bottom side, facing the keel), then place it down, allowing everything to dry at once? Or should I just glass up the whole panel, add more resin/cabosil (between keel/floor), and then place it down? Do you have any recommendations?
I don't think it really matters either way, I would just do whatever you are more comfortable with, and whichever seems easier to you. I glassed the bottom of my core and installed it with the top unfinished. This allowed any excess glass from the floor to wrap on the sides, down into the tunnels, giving it even more strength/bonding surface. Hope that makes sense, and thanks for the words!
the better is better than from factory and the good thing is youll never ever have to do it again
It will outlive all of us, as long as it doesn't blow over.
Almost got our Carlson completely stripped to the hull. Got my girlfriend helping me as well. I love it. Bonding over a boat. Also what would you say ballpark figure you have in the composite and material to this point
Hrm, idk if I should add it up yet :D. I would think under $1500.
I have been shopping myself just to get an idea. I'm completely following your build for mine.
Missed my Sunday watch of this episode. Must be age! lol. Keep at it guys. What's the plan for the new indestructible Transom? the new 12 cylinder Merc Verado? shit sorry i forgot this is a budget build! The beers are talking now! TC
I picked up the motor on ep 12. th-cam.com/video/NDITKGZqpyw/w-d-xo.html
Where did you source the nidacore? Boat looks great!
Carbon core, see episode 8 for links and more info!
when will there be a update on this boat? is it getting finished or has it become a trailer queeen :P
I am really curious what the weight loss will be with removing all the wood. I don't suppose you weighed the boat prior to disassembly?
I’ll try to estimate it when I’m done. When I got it it was water logged and full of ants tho so wouldn’t be reliable info
You need to adjust your trim limit switch
I don't think that works anymore.
Job well done Couple.I hope you remember to add some Fiberglass on the Hull where it was thin (right side) Boss lady always shines. If you have Verizon service they have a Great Deal on a Pre Cert. IPhone 11 Pro Max cell phone free just have to get a new number. I di it and Save $750.00. Take Care you two. Sir please put a Ring on Her
I'm just going to pick up another iPhone SE for $100 on fleabay, lol. Glad you are enjoying the build, I am excited!
@@ADDvanced sir. You can get a Free IPhone 11plus max at Verizon on line. $700 free. But I understand. Yes the Videos are Sweet. Please check out how the surfboard Man colors his Surfboard. That would be Cool on yours. Please look Greg
Just one thing you should have some Dye to the Epoxy to color It?
I will be painting the interior
@@ADDvanced sir I know that but I was trying to say this may be Cool and Last Longer.go Bendheim Boardson TH-cam then longboard glass. Watch how he Colors the Surf board. Just a Thought. Peace
I want to see what happened with the splashwell!!!
th-cam.com/video/fstsDeSh0SU/w-d-xo.html
Are you using unwaxed resin, and that is why you don’t need to sand between sessions?
If it's still tacky I don't sand it, if it feels smooth I scuff w 3m pad off camera.
Why didn't you use coosa board instead of the carbon honeycomb?
Heavier. Nidacore is much lighter
What lake are you running on?
How much did it cost to redo your whole floor and transom
In money or time
Whats the name of that honeycomb board you used ?
what is that honey comb material? I'd like rigidity specs, balsa cores and plywood floors are used for a reason
Nidacore.
@@ADDvanced Thanks bud! Nice timing, I just about got an old hydrostream ready for new floor and haven't decided if it's plywood or otherwise, your reply made me remember to check out other materials!
@@rumnboats7612 Nidacore is super cheap and easy to work with.... but shipping is what's expensive unless you live in Florida.
@@ADDvanced with what you worked with do you think it's flexible enough to go down 1/2" in the middle of a 6' span?
@@rumnboats7612 It's very flexible before you skin it with glass, so I'd say yeah. Once you put glass on both sides, it becomes extremely strong.
Where did you get the floor material from?
Check out episode 8
I suppose you know after resin is 40 hours old you have to grind the surface to get the new resin to bond to the hull.
So they say. I just wipe down with acetone unless it feels super slick.
@@ADDvanced seems a waste of money not to do the job right it will just delaminate.
I have been scuffing stuff up w a scotch brite, I’ll be sure to record it next time. Didn’t seem very exciting.
@@ADDvanced just remember you are teaching people that don't know anything.
@@westmonroe-r1v I don't know anything either, nobody should listen to me :P
How come you take PPE seriously when working on the boat but no life jackets when out in the boat?
Red boat isn’t very dangerous and you sit way down inside it. Not going to have a blow over or get tossed in that thing. The SST will be a totally different story.
When new episode i love this series!
All the lakes are frozen right now, bud! lol. Spring?
Hahaha i understand
@@ADDvanced where can i get the honeycome
the core material is the anti crush aspect while the fiberglass skins ont he outside is what keep the anti crush cores from being floppy.... you guys ignored this and didn't fiberglass the undersides of the floor nidacore... the floor just won't be as stiff as it would of been if you had understood the purpose of a core material does... you neglected to the bottom so that floor is only half as strong to sagging.
Watch again main. Put a thin layer of glass on one side, put that side facing down. It’s skinned w glass on both sides.
Did you rewatch? I glassed one side of the nidacore in the previous episode.