Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 vs Neo G7 - Don't Buy The Bad One!
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Video Index
00:00 - Intro, Specs and Design
03:12 - Motion Performance
05:12 - Scanlines and Samsung QC Issues
07:02 - Color Performance
08:40 - HDR Performance
09:42 - Final Thoughts
How we test response times: • What Are Response Time...
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Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 vs Neo G7 - Don't Buy The Bad One!
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Great work, Tim. A thorough analysis laid out really well. I really appreciate the fact you're willing to call them out on things like the deception on that cheat mode for brightness in tests, as well as the scan line issues. It takes more than a cursory glance to pick all these things out sometimes... Most other monitor reviews I've seen seem to only talk about features without checking the actual functionality.
I hope this channel takes off and grows like the main channel! I am loving learning about monitors.
This is the best channel
Needs more komodo dragons
I'm still not sure what the downsides were of continuing to put this stuff on the main channel
i dont understand why he hate the g8 so much, as he said it has faster respond time, higher refresh rate and others are basically the same... the only problem is scanline and you dont see it in game and if you doing other stuff with it just set it back to 120hz, this is purely a gaming monitor and why are you buying this if you are always doing productivity stuff? I guess that he is pissed abt his g8 being defected and thats all
@@sting3293 setting a 240hz monitor to 120 hz everytime to "fix" it is not exepteble for that price...i have 2 odessey g7 and had sooo manny issues with it so i stay away for a bit til they fix the quilty control.
Awesome work, awesome test. Thank you very much and keep up the great work!
Love your content! Saved me a lot of headaches. Would love to get quicker more Monitor Videos. Sorry for my impatience 😎
Yoo just discovered your channel maye, very in-depth, no stone left unturned. I went with the G7. Thank you very much
Regarding the monitor to monitor variances that you discussed, it would great to see a popular, inexpensive monitor purchased three times for comparison in one video. I have always wondered what the margin for error is between the unit that happens to be being tested and the unit I end up buying.
YEP! Completely agree. But I think that test would be better suited for expensive premium monitors because who is really expecting good quality control on lesser products.
Also a TH-camr named Viktors Reality has a NEO G7 and NEO G8 and said he's planning on buying another NEO G7 to test Panel Variance.
Panel variance has all to do with quality control and nothing else. You can have a solid quality control on a low budget model and you can have bad quality control on a high-end model. Samsung is well known and well documented for having the most horrendus quality control of all manufacturers when it comes to monitors. Suprisingly, some of their other products are excellent (like SSDs for example). I guess these are completely different factories with completely different quality control processes.
Good in theory hard to put in practice. Not even LTT buys multiple same products he wont make the money from the video to cover the hardware
Have you ever actually seen a ltt video? They spend more than it would cost to buy 3 premium monitors in every video they make
2 years ago I bought a set of 3 Odyssey G7's, (which cost about $2700 at the time). And all 3 of them had major defects, scan lines, flickering, dead pixels, randomly turning off and on for a few seconds. So I contacted Samsung about it because it seemed like a firmware issue to me. And the Samsung rep told me they wouldn't be providing firmware updates (which they luckily came back on, because the firmware updates have made these problems less frequent.) But they also told me, AND I QUOTE: "Just buy the new model once that comes out." So apparently, if I give them $2700, they give me something that doesn't work, and they expect me to give them another $4500 for a product that has the same f****** issues! This is absolutely unacceptable.
That's Samsung quality for you. I'd avoid them like the plague.
I know an appliance guy, he said its the same deal with their washers and dryers.
@@speedzero7478 Exactly
The main issue I've had with my G7 is burn in, which I was quite surprised to see after less than a year of ownership. I've never had burn in on any other LCD panel I've used over the years. Samsung's quality control is a mess, which is really frustrating when their technology is so impressive and compelling. Aside from the burn in I've been blown away by the performance of this panel, it's the best LCD I've ever seen in terms of overall performance, which just makes the QC failures all the more tragic.
@@harbingerdawn This is so strange, I've never heard of VA panel burn-in in my life. Sometimes, especially bad examples of IPS panels can get temporary image retention, but even they don't get anything permanent, and VA is especially resistant even to temporary image retention. But anyway, I believe you, it's just such a strange issue. Did your burn in go away eventually or is it still there?
Hey Tim! You could use the burnmark on the G8 to test out how well Samsung handles repair or replacement units. Especially since you bought it overseas. Also, that would enable you to get another chance to check for unit to unit variance and really test what can vary and which measurements are generally similar enough to be classified as "no variance".
Samsung customer service is utter garbage! After hearing about all the shit people have to endure with samsungs terrible quality control i can never see myself buying one.
For 1300$ go buy the alienware ultrawide QD OLED. Thats how a monitor is supposed to be in that price range.
Thank you really Helpful, was thinking about buying one of them. But wanted to get sure that im Check everything to know about them! :)
Love your work guys 👍
great review thank you ... helped me with my purchase
Thank you for comparing Tim. Great job.
How is it?
Samsung: "We've heard your concerns, and we will be addressing the problem in a new firmware update that will give the G7 scanlines as well."
lol
One persistent problem I have had with the Neo G8 is that it won't allow booting in HDMI 2.0. You either have to boot in HDMI 1.4 and then switch to HDMI 2.0 or (oddly) open the OSD and then reboot. I have seen this annoying quirk mentioned elsewhere. Happens with all cables, many graphics card and systems. The OSD is not that easy to get to (like if you have a soundbar).
I'd love to see a test of several of the same monitor, to see how much they deviate.
Yeah like to determine a +/- variance range.
I'm sending back my G7 tomorrow. I got vertical lines on the left side of the screen. I tried everything, but since it was the newest addition I concluded it was the monitor. Before it went to crap it had a great picture.
would be awesome to get a similar video between the C2 and either the Samsung 95B or Alienware QDOLED. Trying to figure out which to pull the trigger on!
The other day they were the same price on amazon for a couple hours. Almost pulled the trigger on the G8 but ill wait until the end of the year to see what we get.
My neo g7 had little scan lines for like a day, somehow they completely disappeared. Kinda confusing but I'm absolutely happy with the screen :) Thanks for the nice videos :)
Hey Josephine, did the scan lines return to your Neo G7? I just bought mine and it also had scan lines but they went awhile for a little while (two weeks) and then they returned!!
@@DontFuckWitDreDay My neo G8 hates most DP and HDMI cords. Find a good quality cable and you will see a difference.
Please, please, please, include some TVs for those couch gamers among us. Your reviews are great and would love your to review 55" class UHD TVs like 1 or 2 of each major brand.
Thanks for launching this channel!
Hope it garners the following you deserve. I personally find this level of content much needed, glad you're venturing out of your non stop fps testing.
You should consider going to RTings if you want TV reviews. Hardware Unboxes only deals with smaller depth reviews for select monitors they evaluate.
Thank you for the video, you guys are the best, as always!
I do have some questions about these monitors. Does the Neo G7 exhibit any blooming when using HDR in comparison to the Neo G8? Some reviewers are mentioning that the Neo G7 has blooming (and worse black levels, could be the coating) when compared to the Neo G8.
I want to get the Neo G7 because the scanlines on the Neo G8 are unacceptable, but if it has worse blooming or black levels than I might just skip these. THX :D
Also do you still have the PG32UQX around? It'd be great content to compare Mini LED IPS to Mini LED VA ! :D
Both monitors will have some blooming, its impossible to not have blooming on a non-oled panel, even with the huge amount of local dimming these monitors have. I have seen both in person and they both have about as perfect blacks as you could possibly expect from this type of panel. They are excellent panels, but the G7 overall seems like the better buy here, for the exact reasons in this video. The G7 I now own has better blacks than my Sony x90J full array TV, which already had great blacks. The non-glossy coating though will make the blacks not feel quite as dark as a glossy panel coating though, but thats the trade off for anti glare.
Thanks a lot for that Video 😊🤜🤛
Would love a review on LG32GQ950 , need to know the real response time on it before i pull up the trigger on buying it
So Tim, any chance we will get a video on the new LG 32GQ950 monitor? Asking for me, since I plan to get it and I want to know how it performs from a trusted source first so I know going in.
I was about to buy two of them but after hearing about the scan lines and seeing them at microcenter I couldn't believe how bad they felt. They are also thick af... I ended up buying an LG thinq OLED tv instead.
Tim, can you please try some custom refresh rates on the Neo G8 to find at what refresh the scan lines disappear? Custom Resolution Utility is useful for that.
Late reply, but this seems to be a cable based issue. I had the G8 and didn't see any scan lines at all at 4K, 10 bit color and 240hz. When I used the DisplayPort cable that was in the box, I saw the scan lines. But granted, they were nearly impossible to spot unless you were only around 1ft away from the display or closer. And again, once I used a true DisplayPort *1.4a* cable (with higher DSC bandwidth), there were absolutely zero scan lines.
@@NippleSauce Will HDMI 2.1 DSC be fine since the bandwidth is higher?
@@Kizzster Nope. On PC, DSC is not supported over HDMI. So you have to use a DisplayPort 1.4a cable. I happened to find one on Amazon labeled as a DisplayPort 2.0 cable (but the description says that it has 80Gbps DSC bandwidth - which is 2.5x that of DisplayPort 1.4a's bandwidth lol). So heck, maybe I've just been getting lucky with that specific cable's high as heck DSC bandwidth range...
@@NippleSauce In this video he says both DP and HDMI have DSC for 40gbps bandwidth
@@Kizzster Just because the cable supports said bandwidth doesn't mean that the PC does over that protocol =). Not everything you see on the internet is correct, kind sir. On PC, you will currently need to use DisplayPort. New consoles have to use HDMI 2.1 to reach that much newer 120hz mode.
Hey, a kinda-sorta-related question: do you have any plans to review any of AOC's MiniLED monitors, either of the 1440p ones or the 2160p Porche Design one?
Would love an updated comparison now that there have been some firmware updates that appear to have fixed the scanline issues with the G8.
Where have you seen that the scan line issues were fixed? Rtings shows as of their January firmware update nothing was fixed.
I agree wholeheartedly.
The scan lines are at a level where you have to get close to see them, but the price makes it unforgivable.
Is there any way to improve this?
Ya stop worrying about it and just play games, you stop thinking about it you'll never notice them.
Both are great monitors. Wish Samsung would try a glossy finish soon.
I've heard so many good reviews about these 2 I'm surprised he seems to be one of the very few that don't seem to like it. I need a new monitor and wanted something like this
5:55 actually, you can, you need to just use Custom Resultion Utility. It can set your display's refresh rate to pretty much any arbitrary refresh rate you want if a display physically can display that, like 163.25 Hz.
he literally stated "very easily" most will not use that utility and should not be expected to at the asking price for the monitor
@@sameerkhatri588 it's not a complicated utility to use.
Since someone buying this monitor is a gaming enthusiast and well used to driver instals, afterburner, pc monitoring, bios updates etc, CRU is an acceptable solution. I just hope I don't need it !
Any chance we can get a similar comparison video between MSI MAG274QRF-QD and MSI MAG274QRX? They're 2 of your most recommended 27" 1440p monitors but this particular comparison wasn't brought up in the MAG274QRX review IIRC. I wonder if choosing the 240hz is a no brainer or if there could be enough good reasons to choose the MAG274QRF-QD despite the lower refresh rate.
Wanna know this too
ty, just got the neo g7 and happy i didnt hav top send it back for a g8
Debating on whether to get one for my Xbox series X. Do you recommend it for that? Or another monitor?
Just bought the Neo G8 for my XSX first monitor ever little nervous about learning about all the new issues but it seems like that was over a year ago so I’ll see how it is when it arrives Saturday
how is it? im thinking of getting the g8 too
just do it. You can always return it if not happy.@@code01372
how is it now? can you tell me
Is there any reason why the results for older monitors have changed?
I am looking forward to the review of the Philips 27B1U7903 which features 2304 local dimming zones and AU Optronics AHVA (M270QAN05.0) panel. In a Chinese review, which you can find on YT, they state that its the best mini led display they've tested.
Already commented on one of the previous videos...EX owner of G7 here, do not buy those monitors, QC is so trash. People (like me) fell for "good spec" but with such number of issues you will totally regret buying it. BTW I tried to replace my unit 3 times and Samsung refused it! Waste of money, frustration and time...
Bought both the G7 and AW2721D. Returned the G7 because of all the problems with the G7. If you can't use the monitor at 240 Hz without scan lines then that's a problem.
Way better off buying a competitor over Samsung.
@@DrakonR Was thinking to buy at the time monitor that you have but somehow ended up with Asus Rog Swift pg279qm. No issues here with QC, but panel nothing spectacular. Maybe I was so used to watch my LG CX tv that any other display is trash... I hope for more OLED monitors in the future.
I've got the Neo G7 and had it for a week, and I've not had any issues... or do you mean the OLD G7, rather than the new "Neo" G7?
@@Hezkezl G7 without neo - older one
@@Hezkezl neo G7 suffers the same scan line issues. Just because it doesn't bother you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I was so afraid after I had seen the Hardware Unboxed review after pre-ordering the Neo G8. I was going to cancel it, but I stuck with it, and I'm glad I did. I might be lucky to have gotten a good panel or something cause the monitor is amazing and I have never seen any of the issues (such as scanlines) appearing. The HDR looks ridiculous, and when gaming at 4K with high refresh rates things just look insane...
When you run a dark scene do you see it? I Had one for a really long time, and when I was playing Elden Ring in some of the darker areas with dark armor on, I thought something was actually wrong with the screen. When I go into e.g. windows dark mode and look at my chrome tabs, I can clearly see the scanlines now.
Not in the bright scenes.
@@lazyreuvin Well, you got a winner then! I am jealous haha maybe I will try to get a new one. Are you running at 240hz?
@@00SaltsI heard there may be different panel variants, but don't know how true those rumours are. yep, the monitor is always set to 240hz, but i switch between HDR and non HDR depending on on the content I watch or play. Only issue I found is watching non HDR content with HDR off makes everything look brighter and better, but when I watch HDR content it looks amazing with it switched on. If u have a warranty or can exchange it, maybe give it a shot. Super happy with mine and knowing I'm future proofed for a good couple of years 😊
@@lazyreuvin That HDR experience is because windows kind of sucks at HDR sometimes, its not the monitors fault you have to switch between it on and off depending on the program. When it works it sure works though.
I know this is almost a year old but I just wanted to mention that it's blues and oranges on the G8 that really show the scanlines. A solid black image is almost never going to show any signs.
A monitor with that big of a panel to panel variance really puts me off.
The RTINGS review of the NEO G8 right now being talked about on the monitor subreddit is like a battleground of people voicing their differing opinions lol.
Some saying the G8's issues are overblown and not that big of a deal while others like me who think it's hard to accept the faults for $1500...
With rting review though, the G7 seems to have the same contrast as your G8 so it's probably not the G8 spesific issue but just Samsung general QC issue.
That said, with the scanline issue, I don't if people should consider it even if it cost the same or very near to that of G7. Seems like just a waste of money (although better tuning across all refresh rate range is probably more useful than 165 hz vs 120 hz)
Just wondering have you tried overclocking the Neo G7?
What about setting up a custom resolution where you run at 200Hz?
You could find where the scanlines cutoff
At the moment you cant create any custom resolution on the G8, the option is jus greyed out in the Nvidia control panel
i dont understand why he hate the g8 so much, as he said it has faster respond time, higher refresh rate and others are basically the same... the only problem is scanline and you dont see it in game and if you doing other stuff with it just set it back to 120hz, this is purely a gaming monitor and why are you buying this if you are always doing productivity stuff? I guess that he is pissed abt his g8 being defected and thats all
As an owner of the g8, I think it’s more about principle when you consider the price you’re paying. $1200 shouldn’t cut any corners or sacrifice qc to beat opponents in the market. I got lucky with mine at my local microcenter, was ready to return but all has been well. Biggest complaint is the additional lag from using vrr and/or local dimming.
@@sting3293 if you set it to 120 then why not get the G7 at 165 Hz?
Man I just bout the g8 and it's cutting in and out the picture that is. The screen just goes black for a second and comes back on. This is junk
Nice review, thank you
A few questions: my usage is PC desktop, PS5 games and TV (Netflix or HD channels) and PC games. 120Hz is ok for me.
I bought a 43" G7 for 700€
Is it ok price and would I have a ghosting issue on 120Hz?
Thank you
are u happy with the 43" ?
😎 Are we going to see any high-end productivity monitors reviewed or is this your second gaming channel?
Possibly best monitor channel on youtube
I know this ain’t got much to do with the video but for the xbox series x, is the Samsung oddessey g7 or g70a better (not the neo versions, the old g7 vs the hdmi 2.1 flat ips panel)
Hi mate, Does the brightness and contrast vary based on the refresh rate?
I wonder if the processing delay of the local dimming feature is the same between the two monitors.
If you put both monitors at 60 or 120 hertz, would be any difference?
Is scan lines still an issue for the G8?
It's been almost 4 months since this video released, do you have an update in regard to the scanlines at 240 Hz issue?
no
I've heard of some people not getting the scanline issue at 240hz, so this could be a fault some units are being shipped with?
If its anything like the old G series, Samsung updates the monitors when QC issues are reported, and they just dont say anything. If you buy the old G7 now vs when it first came out, they're pretty different and have none of the issues reported on release. These ones will likely be the same.
I have a g8 and have compared it against my xg27aqm and compared 240, 120, and 60 hz and I can not see any differences. No scanlines. I think this is a panel lottery issue.
In case i adjust g8 to 165 hz through windows,will i still get flatlines?Or i cant adjust to 165 hz at all?
The only way to get rid of flatline issue is going with 120 hz?I found a deal offering only 50 usd more for g8.
Are scan lines an issue in game or just with solid color backgrounds?
Would scan lines be covered in the warranty? Just asking bc I was the G8
All i seem to find is that the G8 is the best monitor to buy for my PS5 for 4k @ 120fps so should i take the plunge or just go with something else? I want the best for my money!
Ok, on my G8, the Scanlines appears in 120Hz mode! So weird.
This is the first time I buy Samsung products but I would say I fell in love with this monitor in overall.
The biggest drawback to this monitor though is its viewing angle like I've never seen any other display as bad as G8.
You shouldn't get Curved if you want different angles lmao
Thanks!
Thank you very much for your videos. If I bought a Neo G7/G8, I wouldn't always use the monitor with 4K. How is their quality at 1440p, both for consoles and PC?
€15 spent and no response even though he liked damn😭
@@dylanlong8140 LOL damn that's crazy
@@dylanlong8140 I'm thinking of getting the Neo G7, what do you think of it?
@@Jay-son. I have the Neo G8 and using it with the PS5 its practically a Neo G7, but its great. i'd say if you get it get a good monitor arm for it though it looks a lot better with it
@@dylanlong8140 I got the PS5 as well, I'm primarily going to use this monitor for gaming on the PS5.
I also want to watch 4k movies on it as well. The G7 and G8 must be good for watching movies right? they both have HDR 2000 with great contrast/picture quality so I'm assuming 4k HDR movies look great.
One last question, do you like the aggressive curve?
Thanks for the advise.
well I have a G7-32 inch (non neo) that i got 6 months ago for $300 shipped new in box from samsung...not sure either of these would be worth swaping out
The biggest dealbreaker for all these new Samsung monitors is the curve... STOP IT, SAMSUNG. PLEASE.
It's because of the bad VA viewing angles.
On my PS5 I have a question with this monitor The Samsung Odyssey Neo G8
When you use adaptive sync you can’t use low input lag function it’s washed out so you can’t select it
How many milliseconds is it in this mode when playing on the PlayStation 5 do you know what the input lag is on adaptive sync compared to having adaptive sync off and low input lag on . What’s the difference between the two as far as milliseconds?
The reason I asked this is because you can’t have them both on together so I wanna know what the better choices because with adaptive sync on you can use VRR on the ps5 but with it off, you can use low input lag mode but can’t use VRR on your PS5 . Just want to know this because I play first person shooters and I want the quickest response time so adaptive sync on or adaptive sync off and low lag on what do you recommend?
Samsung and scanlines, had to return the G7 for a AW2721D as I hated the scanlines.
Why didn't you just test a custom res on the G8 at 165 for an apple with apples compare?
You are the best!
Absolutely love my g8, scan lines are not bad on my unit. By far the best monitor out there and I’ve tried all the high end ones for the past couple years
Yeah I got a G7 and its the best monitor ive owned in my life. Absolutely crazy good HDR and blacks for a non oled. Gets really bright. Its unlike anything else i've used and no risks of burn in.
Best monitor out there
Scan lines aren't bad.
The best monitor out there doesn't have major QC problems.
Im like 3 mind in andnSomething I've not heard in this video is how much does each monitor support, like 2560x1440p?
I wish you would have made this video with new units of these monitors. We already know everything you said here from the original review videos.
I want to get a 4k monitor because i will spend extra cash on my next gpu upgrade. I might get the GPU first and wait for better 4k monitors. Still Neo G8 is a top contender for me and the LG C2 42 inch is strong one too.
I'd rather wait for more 240Hz 4K monitors
@@GewelReal not an issue for OLED.
@@GewelReal Q4 2023 or Q2 2024
Sony InZone M9 is currently the best compromise. It's not perfect, but it's the best compromise we've got at the moment.
Hello, I have a trouble deciding which monitor to buy, Neo G7 or LG 32GQ950-B, which one would you recommend?
Same. Did you purchase either one in the end?
@@declanallen8726 Yes, I have purchased Neo G7, so far no dead pixels, image looks great, haven't seen the LG in person yet so I can't tell which one is better but the image looks great on G7.
@@MrArni765any flickering issues so far, especially when playing 60Hz games, on Pc or on Ps5?
Should I get the G8 if it's the same price as the G7 right now?
are they able to fix the issue with G8 with software update?
TH-cam is being so finnicky, every time I go to a hardware unboxed or monitor unboxed video too soon after posting, the video just fails to load :/
It must be in your region. I opened it right after receiving the notification and worked as expected.
@@ricardolmendes Yeah it's pretty weird, I still can't load the video a full hour after the video's release. Must be google being terrible again.
If you're located in the US... throttling is a thing over there i've noticed. Very common what i've read.
@@DanielFrost79 Nah I am in Australia. Any older video works fine.
@@yedrellow Ahh. Good to know. Maybe just the internet having a bad day then. 😃
Watching this on my Neo G7 after returning the G8 :p ( my 3080 can't push the titles I play into 200+ frames range. Plus I had weird flickering using a DP cable)
Can anyone tell me if Samsung have fixed the issues that Tim discusses in the video?
I've had a G8 for about a month now. Have none of the issues you are referring too. No scan lines at 240hz, no wobbly stand. I cannot speak to the brightness and how many nits, what I do know is that its bright enough to burn your retinas! lol. I'm absolutely made up with it. 240hz in 4k, albeit with DLSS is absolutely insane looking. I cannot imagine a better gaming experience. So I can only assume they have either fixed the issues or you just got a dodgy one, or I just got a goodun!?
I just got my Neo g8. The Scanline is very very subtle. You have to really focus on one icon with specific color to visualize it, but it does exist on mine. Again very subtle.
Having just bought the G8 it's interesting having just found your channel 😂😂
what's your opinion on the g8? still hesitating between g8 and g7, do you have have scanlines?
@@OfficialLoupak nothing I would say are noticeable although it doesn't feel as bright as I was expecting
Hello M8. I Have rtx 3090 and how this monitor work with G Sync? There is G Sync compatible or not? Need gaming monitor 4k with good G Sync
I got the original Odyssey 240hz G7 late made (2022, fixing many QC issues). Best one out of the trio for sure.
What trio?
its a million times NOT better than either of the neos if thats what you’re saying lol
LG 32GQ950 review please? Hoping for a good dual use monitor option. Neo G7 / G8 (curve, qc issues, low max SDR brighness ~350 nit) and QD-OLED monitors (pixel layout, low max SDR brightness ~250 nit) are all too compromised for desktop use to be good dual use options.
That LG is trash. It has a fan inside (God why?) and edge-lit dimming. Just buy Sony M9 and call it a day. Unfortunately, it's not available in 32" size.
If you are feeling bored you could test CRU (Custom Resolution Utility) out with an AMD card. It is only locked for Nvidia cards. See how far you can push a G7 till scanlines appear (or lower Hz on the G8 until they dissappear).
you can still change the resolution ( even use a custom resolution ) and the hz with nvidea cards you just cant use CRU (Custom Resolution Utility) with Nvidea cards. FFS
@@-firefly7931 Can you make a screenshot? Everyone so far who has/had this monitor said that you cant set a 200Hz/4K resolution (for example) on the G8. On the other hand, i have proof of a 6900XT user who overclocked his Neo G7 to 200Hz/4K:
th-cam.com/video/WH3IVs8fU_g/w-d-xo.html
Latest nvidia drivers may have lifted the lock. I am genuinely curious about this.
@@-firefly7931 oh, and the guy with the AMD card also mentioned that he is locked out of it on his Nvidia system. Both on the G7 and the G8.
@@yukegaming8788 you can put a custom resolution in on the nvidea control panel there is no need to use 3rd party software
@@-firefly7931 I know there is an option in the GUI. People reported that the refreshrate setting is locked on their G7/G8. They could only set a custom resolution in there. Not the Hz.
just got the 43 inch neo g7 4k 144hz mini led. looks amazing
Are any of these worth buying if I have an Odyssey G7? Im not sure if its worth the extra money or if its even an upgrade at this point.
It would be an upgrade only if you have the hardware to drive a 4k monitor. Other than that... You're only getting the benefits of better HDR.
Would you mind testing the 43" model of the Samsung Odyssey Neo G7?
what camera do you use in your videos?
Was really considering the g8, thanks for the review!
Now I’m considering between the g7 and the Alienware qd-oled
the only downside to aw3423dw for me is no 4k streams except youtube
On a technical level, what is the reason for the scanlines at 240hz on the G8? Is this a problem inherent to this particular panel or does it have more to do with DSC and the amount of bandwidth needed to run 4k at 240hz?
Haven’t seen any scanlines the monitor is absolutely amazing
It has to do with the driver IC inside the monitor that's directly connected to the panel, but has nothing to do with the panel itself. 240hz is just way too much throughoutput for just one IC and you have to make a hardware custom solution where you would interconnect two of them. In fact, even 165 hz is too much for just one IC, that's why even some of the NEO G7's have scanline problems, but absolutely every NEO G8 will have scanline problems until you lower your refresh rate to 120 hz. Samsung knew about these problems before monitors went into production, but they just didn't care, because developing bespoke hardware solution would be too much effort for them. Unfortunately, this is not something that can be solved by a new firmware since it's a hardware defect. But really, in order to understand what's going on, you have to understand Samsung's business model when it comes to monitors and TVs. "Pretty bad is still good enough" is their motto. They just don't care about their products and are not ashamed because of that. Just look at NEO G7 and NEO G8. Both of these monitors are horrific when it comes to number of bugs. Scanlines, PWM flicker, cable connection problems, settings problems, panel inconsistencies... and even the plastic case comes with scratches, it's just unbeliveable. Unfortunately, quality control is nonexisting. I would recommend you to spare yourself of a lot of frustration and just buy Sony InZone M9 instead, which appears to be excellently built. Too bad, because I would really like to see a VA panel from Samsung in some other monitor that actually works properly.
@@Im_too_old_for_this_shit thank you for this thorough reply. Much appreciated!
@@Im_too_old_for_this_shit They are all about releasing the "firsts" even if they are really unreliable.
Can you please do a comparison with the Neo G7, Neo G8 and the Neo G9? That'd be quite something 🙂
Ah yes let me compare 16:9 to SUW 32:9
How can you buy one of them knowing both have scanlines issues that will never be solved?
I just want a good flat screen 32 inch 4k IPS monitor for gaming, movies and productivity. I love these but I really don’t want a curved screen. I sit too far back for that to work for me. Please help! Advice?
How does one go about calibrating these monitors? I've got a Neo G7 that I picked up a week ago (particularly after seeing the review for it!) so I'd be interested in trying to fix my colors to be a bit more accurate like mentioned at about 7:43
Buy the Alienware. OLED vs LCD is completely different league. Unless you absolutely need the higher resolution for some reason.
Hardware calibration (aka buying specific hardware to calibrate it). I have the X-Rite i1Display Pro for my monitors and it does a great job at calibrating and is pretty quick too (maybe 10 minutes per screen or less). It costed me $349 a couple years ago from Amazon but if you live in America it would be a bit cheaper than that as I live in Australia so just going off of the pricing I paid for it lol. They're not cheap but they're not that much money either imo when you can calibrate an unlimited amount of screens with just one of them.
@@WyattOShea I'm interested in X-Rite too. Can you make hardware calibration with it? (In a sense where you set some new settings into a monitor/TV itself, without the need for separate software ICC profiles.)
@@matejnemec3022 OLED is trash and will get burn-in in less than two years. So throw away your money if you don't care about buying a new monitor every few years. Also, it doesn't have RGB subpixel layout, which brings font rendering problems.
@@Im_too_old_for_this_shit I don't believe you can. It's a hardware calibrator sure but it is just giving you an ICC profile in the end. It's still great though as it gets you allot closer to perfect colour (or as close as your monitor can get to perfect) anyway.
so what's better to buy?
Thanks for this review, I wish the Alienware AW3423DW had HDMI 2.1 also for PS5's but sadly it only comes with HDMI 2.0 😞and I dont wanna buy Sony's monitor because its not as good as the Alienware.
Hey, I heard that monitor had a revision, it probably includes HDMI 2.1a. If it doesn't, I'm sure there are HDMI to display port cables/adapters.
What games are being showcased as the benchmarks?
whats this like for coding? Good pixel density right
Can the monitors be wall mounted? And can these LEDs on the lower frame be switched off?
yes and yes
@@xDSxTwistedd Love ur nick
Also neo g8 has inverse ghosting as well.. past the limitations of dp 1.4a 240hz 4k is too much for dsc to handle
One thing that doesn't get mentioned much is the G8 AR film is VERY aggressive. So much so, it actually significantly blurs the pixels so that 4K clarity isn't as sharp on it versus the G7 and other monitors.
I noticed something like this just from viewing them back to back at Microcenter. G7 seemed more clear.