IAC chip swap... can it be done?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- this is just an extra thing non project related i thought about and alot of people asked about so i dove right in on it tonight to swap the IAC driver chip from a bricked p01 to a non IAC p59, we will see if it worked tomorrow!
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If you use a heat gun on a board use aluminum foil to protect all areas of the board you are not heating. To install the chip on the board without the chip do not use a heat gun, get a desolder hand vacuum pump and desolder wick. After removing all the solder from the pads install the chip and manually resolder each pin with a solder iron
Can't agree with you enough.
In all fairness.. he did say that if this works then he's get the tools to do this correctly. But yeah.. it was painful to watch, lol. This must be how pro engine builders feel seeing him swap a cam with an impact in 30 minutes.. haha
Even Matt doesn't literally hammer cams into blocks. This is sorta the electronics equivalent of that.
If it doesn't work, and I'm not saying it won't, we won't know if it was the installation method or the concept. Since he has 2 of these to try out, he may be trying to test both at the same time. I just don't want an initial failure to end the experiment because I think we're all hoping it works.
Yeah I might have tried soldering braid for sure at least tried it, its easy to get at Ratshack, heck I think many of them (although these days there are less tools in many of the stores) have a solder sucker. I'm sure it was a late night, hey lets just try this so I won't hate, been there done that but it usually limited my success with it.... But hey we love Matts no fucks given approach, I'm sure if there is no damage to the chip with heat it should work if that is the only differences between the ECU.
+1
Yes this works, have done a handful of them. For those looking for the end result.
I just swapped the IAC driver onto a DBW only P59 and it's running the IAC on my LS swapped RAM no problem. I just wanted to follow up on this 3 year old comment verifying that it does indeed work.
@@theKEVman011 Did you have to do any custom tuning in order to get the ecm to recognize and control the iac motor?
@@miltaryfreak I have the Serv No. 12589463 HDW No. 12589162 P59. I don't recall the OS. Did not have to do anything special. Just soldered on the chip and plugged the IAC into the harness and it worked.
Did you seriously just leave this on a cliff hanger? I've killed for less.
it was 11pm not gunna start my truck lol
cmon man, you know the neighbors will love it
If you don't have a desolder braided wick or desolder pump, I have had good success with just using a very small drill bit and drilling the solder (sodder? in US). Drill the holes, stick the legs through, then apply new solder to the legs with a soldering iron.
What you can try is after you reheat the solder, use a light puff of compressed air to blow it out.
solid copper stranded wire works nicely as a wick to desoldier....you are an it guy like me, sources abound from scrap electronics
Cmon man, heat the pins up and dip in flux, then reheat and dip in silver then reheat and just send it! Don't beat the board at all, just the pins, that's why they're long and away from the chip! Practice on a silver bread board a couple of times and you will nail it, you're smart AF my man!
Drill out holes on board an resotter.tiny drill bit.
Use solder wick to clean out the through holes matey so you don't have to go full Trogdor on the rest of the sensitive electrickery!
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It's crazy how much you look like my brother but pretty ez to tell that you're much cooler !!! U two could pass for twins seriously!!!!
with that amount of heat, if you get it to work, i'm impressed.. you could try compressed air next time..
Typically if I'm trying to insert a part like that, I'll clean the holes out by heating them individually with the iron and blowing the solder out with some air. Even just blowing will typically work. After that you need to apply new solder of course, but not a biggie. Heat guns are great for salvage IME, but not so much install.
If you want a desoldering iron, they're great. I have a cheapie $12 Radio Shack one that is actually really handy although admittedly I Typically use it on a larger board. If you don't want to go to the expense of one, some solder braid will work decently as well. Or blowing.
i was hoping you would get all those pins in there. also, i was gonna be pissed if you got all of em through without anything but my dads heat gun and a pliers. hope she works!!
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best part
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Pass or fail unlike etcqueer, fail, edit, fail, edit, two months later have a video that puts people to sleep
Just heat solder and blow away with compressed air, works in a pinch. Excited to see how this turns out !
The Job you are trying to do is much easier if you heat the board you want to install into and than use compressed air to blow the solder out. Than you have a empty board and you can than just stick the legs through the board and solder from the bottom. Easy Peesi. Just food for thought
Good to know I'm not the only one recommending a solder sucker, those things make life sooooo much easier with projects like this one.
Heat gun + air compressor blowgun is your friend - heat the board with the heatgun until the solder melts, blowgun the holes clear, do the same withe chip, should be able to put it in, then just one by one solder the legs back up.
I was like "Damn, don't tell Me He nails it on the first attempt!" Glad to see You working on it.
Really, you didn't answer the question?
Great idea and vid Thank you 👍
Look up a solder removal tool man so much easier. Seen used on instrument clusters all the time for modifying mileage when being swapped to a new car from the junkyard or what not
I feel like this should work and hope it does then I can get some use out of a couple of these I have lol
You are going to break the internet one day.
Haven't seen a conclusion to this yet. I can only guess that it didn't pan out? Or, maybe, back shelved? What's up with this?
+SethRocksYou didn’t work there are more components that need to get swapped in for it to work right I assume I am missing more smc ‘s
P04 PCM's have the same driver
betting on other components needed to be added
Any progress made on this? Trying to figure out what route of PCM to use 411, P59, E40.....so many choices....
there's likely a half dozen+ things not populated on the board, where and what is the big question, other than the resistor or diode right near the chip.
I doubt schematics and materials lists are available, so you'd have to reverse engineer the circuitry and do tons of comparison, lots of head bashing into a brick wall :)
So quick question. Im buying a new cam for my truck but i cant find the elgin cam he used for the Don't BS me build. Will the.585/.585 lift cam E-1840-P work with no additional or minimal changes to other components?
that is the cam, www.ebay.com/itm/Elgin-Camshaft-E-1840-P-2200-5400-Hydraulic-Roller-585-585-for-Chevy-LS1-/281820127021
Sloppy Mechanics So i can use this cam and id still be ok?
keep us posted
I did try to do that also. But I bent some of the pins when I took it out. I guess I will wait and see if it actually works and try it again.
i see theres also a resistor you gotta bring over as well, not just that. Also use a soldering iron and solder sucker
shiz, wich one?
Sloppy Mechanics if compare the back traces and you will see near where the pins are, theres a resistor
I know all to well how much of a pain in the ass that is trying that without a desoldering tool, I still dont have one, I don't do a lot of soldering to really justify buying one. But always wishing I had one if and when I solder something with that many legs into a board.
You are one crazy fucker I love it
I want to say there is a missing capacitor also. I looked into this a long time ago and those chips are hard to find. I use one of these and works really well for desoldering.
hey slappy the other day you mentioned a sloppy stage 1 cam but i did not find it on he wiki do you mind sending a link you the model name and or number thanks
When you said right after the mail you really meant it!!
There was still at least one piece of candy in the shop...
What does a "Bricked ECM" mean?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick_(electronics)
It no longer works, so its a brick as in its just a big heavy object that only takes up space.
Thanks folks!
Did you ever get that to work? Follow up vid coming soon?
That's probably a 'house numbered' chip,specifically for GM. It may cross-reference to a standard chip part number,but only GM knows which one. It could even be custom manufactured for GM..a standard motor-driver chip,with some custom 'tweaks' inside,who knows. One possible issue with swapping just the chip,if they didn't install the chip in the other ECU,they may have also omitted any supporting circuitry it may need..extra capacitors,resistors,whatever. So you'd need to add those too.
Don't think I've ever done rework with a heat gun...I bought a hot-air station for that! But,that's the Sloppy way! :)
Probably something like the L298 chip,I'd guess. No idea if the control inputs,or the pin-out are the same though.
Here's the L298 datasheet,in case anyone is interested: www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Robotics/L298_H_Bridge.pdf
What came of this.... did it work?
it did not work i think it needs more parts of the board swapped obviously
I sent the p59 and p01. If you need a few more p59's let me know
Hey Matt, what was the outcome?
i did not get it to work, probably overheated board
If this works, you're going to prove everything I know about working with electronics to be wrong. Generally shit with heat sinks on it (and most other shit too) doesn't like going into the broiler.
If it fails, I encourage you to let one of your subs (I'd do it) volunteer to try it again with fresh parts or at least let us help. Wickng the solder out, placing the chip, and resoldering it properly isn't that big of a deal.
Then again, I'm sure plenty of other people have said that plenty of the stuff you've done wouldn't work, so by no means am I taking a hard line here. There is a magic to Sloppy that can't be denied by anyone.
Bump on this working?
Solder sucker!!
Did it work?
Who the hell cares how he does it if it works it works it's a homerun in my book