Funny to hear you say “it’s like a golden ticket”. I am an electrical teacher in Australia and have mentioned that getting an apprenticeship these days is like getting a golden ticket. I found that being in industry gave me more flexibility as an electrical engineer as you cover a larger area (I did this for 37 years). I tell my students to be safe at all times, stick to your Regs and be confident in your knowledge and to never trust another electricians work, which is why you should test all the time. This is a positive thing ( no pun intended). Great videos and keep up the great work. Happy safe New Year to you all.
Thanks so much for your kind words! You also call it a ‘golden ticket’-it really is. Your advice to your students is spot on, especially about testing everything and staying confident. Safety first, always! Appreciate the support and Happy New Year to you too
I wanted to become an electrician. Feel like it's less harsh on your body then other trades, and not everyone understands or wants to mess with electricity.
Great video! I went down a very similar path to Ben, and I can definitely say it’s a tough journey! I lived and breathed electrics for about three years, and while the basics are fairly straightforward, that alone doesn’t make you an electrician. There’s so much more to it-it’s like opening Pandora’s box! I’ve been qualified for about five years now, and I still feel like I’ve only scratched the surface. There’s a lot to consider, from the placement of accessories to even the process of ordering materials. It can be challenging, but it’s also incredibly rewarding. Keep up the great work!
Many years ago I was an apprentice joiner, a variety of apprenticeships were available then paying a lot less money than other jobs so you needed to be keen and dedicated, as the years went by the construction industry became an aging workforce as not many young people were given the opportunity as the apprenticeship schemes were phased out, maybe now it is time to look how successful the old apprenticeship schemes were, great video with great people, we were always proud of our various trades, good luck
Thank You I found this really helpful, I want to become an electrician, I love renewables, EV’s and batteries I am a bricklayer by trade and teach Bricklaying but electrical is definitely the most interesting trade in my opinion,
I did a 4 year indentured EITB industrial Electrical apprenticeship Started in 1984, however there were many available back then with the abundance of factories, did day release for 4 years B-Tec and HNC , worked for a year then went on to achieve B.eng Degree. Worked JIB Technician a while , qualified on HV to 11Kv , mining abroad , steel industry and merchant Navy / Marine. Best Job in the world but I think you have to be very much hands on. The only electrical work I've never done is house bashing which I never would do. Top tip if you work Merchant marine and qualify do pay no taxes people ( life tip ) to earn a fortune.
2 years in night school doing electrical installation then got an apprenticeship as a multi skilled maintenance engineer working on control panels and motors and automation
at 11.09 you mention you can sign off your own work once inspection and testing is achieved. This can be confusing from experience as some people may think you can sign off you own notifiable work. Even with inspection and testing, 18th edition, AM2 you will still need to be registered with a governing body if you go down the self employed route.
Hi, I've worked in an office for 28 years and decided to have a career change 2 years ago. Self funded my fast track, expensive, training to NVQ level which I enjoyed. Then because of limited experience I failed my first attempt at AM2. Got my experienced worker white ECS card. However, because of my age, lack of experience onsite, and perhaps the economy I'm struggling to find work. Tried local adverts and calling local companies and Indeed etc. Where are the jobs the Gov and Industry leaders say are out there? I liked the suggestion made in the video about making a short video to try to get a job, thanks.
Im a Maintenance Apprentice in the waste-water industry, and multi-skilled with both mechanical and eletrical. Definitely agree apprenticeship is the way to go getting into the trades, I'm no in my third year but have struggled massively with the electrical side as it's so advanced and overwhelming! Hoping I can learn alot this year though.
i was told i would never be an electrician because my maths wasn't good enough so i went else where.i find it odd that the trade says it cant enough guys to do the work but seems unwilling to train young folk
Great video! What an interesting path Ben took, I assume he wasn't working on anything else when doing these full time courses. Ben said he did "their" training courses, who is he referring to?
Hey, Ben here. I used an excellent provider in Cambridgeshire called Electrical Courses Ltd. It was pretty full time, however I was supported by a business I started 10 years ago. Can’t wait for all the electrical content in 2025z
You think it's too late at 47 to retrain as sparky. I could do the city and guilds 2 and 3 but worry who would take a 47 year old on to get experience. Well done mate @@SmartFew
Nice video of the different paths to becoming a qualified Electrician and it was very good to see one of our very own Ben Tristem explaining his experience of our Electrical Improver route.
@@SmartFew Cheers Ben. I have also subscribed to your channel and look forward to any future content. Any extra plugs for our business is always appreciated :D! All the best Neil.
I watched your video about fitting lights in garage. And might have upgraded my garage lighting 😂 I also watched your video on wiring mistakes and today at work spotted an extension / multiple plug “thing” where the inner cables were exposed and suggested than was confined to the bin.
It was five years when i did and that was before the AM2, which had to be added years later, it was totally already covered and not needed for people that were on full time sites. I did continue on and do the C course, not sure if they do that anymore but it was totally priceless, it even still pays for itself 30 years on.
I've had bad luck with Apprenticeships, been turned down by some because of my Learning Support as I struggle with Maths, was doing a Apprenticeship at a school as a IT Technician they were impressed with my knowledge with Networking, Servers etc but let me go because of my Maths after 2 years in, so stuck on Universal Credit and can't get a job due my learning support problems. It sucks.
I think that you put this across very well Jordan! As someone who had been in the industry for over 40 Years and seen many changes for the better, the hardest part is getting started, and then developing from there! After a very diverse career covering most aspects of the trade There is no substitute for experience! Every day is a learning day! The hardest thing that I found as you get on in years you do not retain information as easily And keeping up with qualifications becomes harder! So the earlier you start the more of a learning sponge you are! But the element of trust by an employer is key to getting started! It is a fabulous interesting industry & has served me well! Good luck to all those just starting off in their careers 😎👍🏻
Thanks for watching! Glad you found it helpful, and it’s great to hear you’re starting your journey. The third route is definitely doable-stick with it, and you’ll get there. Best of luck!
Getting Part P should be simplified. It is annoying that I cannot legally create/certify a spur socket from the well-established ring without spending thousands on extra courses and NICEIC registration with some annual fees.
So I'm in Canada and I just watched a few of your videos. The last one being were 2 years ago. You took an apprentice electrician around and was quizzing him on questions on how to check a home. I'm assuming you have a video out that explains all the acronyms, but could you explain all the acronyms of the breakers you have in your panels?. We have GFCI for ground fault circuit interrupter. We have afci for arc fault circuit interrupter and we have Breakers that are a combo there of. If the breaker fits one space, it's a one pole. If it fits two spaces for 240 volt it's a double pole and then of course three pole for three-phase loads. we have Breakers that I'm assuming you guys do too. That fits two Breakers and one space making it a tandem.
Excellent video thank you. It’s important for bright kids to know there are alternatives to doing a very expensive university degree. Nowadays a trade can give you a better salary than a graduate, and much more rewarding work than sitting in an office.
Only go to university if a top university and a decent subject like STEM medicine, law etc. Electrician is far better than most crappy university degrees from crap universities
I wanted to fix radio/ television/ video when I left school in1976! I couldn't understand the maths! The questions were mire like statements rather than questions!! I became a sparky instead. From 1976 (14th edition) through to 1981 (15th edition) things have changed. We will see more changes! Earthing foundation rears or low smoke cables throughout etc?
Great video! So as I understand it from a career change perspective you’d be looking at 2 years at evening classes doing a level 2 and level 3 alongside your normal day job. Then you’d need to find an employer and gain the practical experience to complete a NVQ level 3 before finally completing the AM2 assessment and become fully qualified? I ask as I’m already 6 years deep into my career and can’t afford to take a pay cut to an apprenticeship wage so evening classes would be my route.
Ye this is the way. So you could stay in work while doing L2&3 at college. Then after college, you would look for work in the industry probably as an electricians mate. Here you would do your L3 NVQ and then go onto do the AM2 test. I'm currently doing this.
Good timing, I wondered how Reuben was getting on, hadn't seen much of him lately. Luke's route is much like my own, I have retrained in my late 30s... I was employed in hospitality for some years at a large holiday park local to me, latterly in the kitchen where I enjoyed the pace and the buzz; but it doesn't work with small children and a family; working earlies, lates, weekends, half terms and the annual argument about who's working Xmas Day... enough was enough. I was lucky enough to find employment with a local electrical firm, one of the bosses I knew through a friend and he knew my work ethic... they were looking for electrician's mates at the time and even though I had no experience or quals, they took a punt... and three years later, I'm still with them and working through a self-funded course to gain my NVQ3. Having passed Luke a few times on the road in Cambridge, my aim is to have a nice smart van like his!
Hey Jordan, where is the promised link to Ben's channel? You are going to make me type it in aren't you! Thanks for the video, really interesting to hear the modern routes into the trade.
Great video as always guy, but I’ve got different opinions about this as someone who is fully qualified electrician and I did my apprenticeship in South Africa which is where I’m from, it’s a 3 year degree and the whole of first year you’ll be at college and the second year you’ll be onsite the whole year doing practical work then you come back for your final year to complete your degree. And the amount of knowledge you gained from those 3 years it’s no where near that I see here. I relocated to the UK and they said I had to redo my electrical again, I did study 3 years again here and they don’t even teach a lot of things. And when you’re onsite, the standard of work, the quality is shocking and yet someone will be saying he’s a fully qualified electrician and he got qualified by just studying weekends or few nights
Thanks for sharing your perspective-it’s always interesting to hear how things are done in different countries! Sounds like your training in South Africa was incredibly thorough, and I can imagine it must’ve been frustrating to redo your qualifications after relocating. The differences in standards and training can be a real eye-opener, and I agree that hands-on experience is so important for building real expertise. Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment!
I have a strong interest in electrical circuits and related topics, and I’m exploring career options in the field. I’m deciding between pursuing an apprenticeship as an electrician, in instrumentation, or in control systems. Could anyone share insights on the earning potential for electricians in countries like us, Canada or even Australia? This would help me make a more informed decision.
@lewis94uk But the main switch is under the same cover, so there is still the possibility of touching live conductors if the cover is removed. It reduces the risk, but there will always be risk unless you completely disconnect the whole installation. It seems arbitrary where they are drawing the line...
@@thomasdalton1508exactly, have said this countless times before , manufacturers should be incorporating shrouded terminals and cable boot kits for their main switches .
There is an important thing missed here, part of that is the scope of the video, but the biggest blame sits with the ECA and the NICEIC. If electricians are trained properly, they receive proper education at college and are mentored properly by experienced and competent electricians then any qualified electrician knows what does and does not make a safe installation and is compliant with the Regs, thus a properly trained electrician knows how to test an installation without spending another £1000+ on Test and Inspect. The industry has lost its professionalism and its soul which has been outsourced to third party trainers and scam artists which is lowering standards and damaging the industry. The industry has good employers, good contractors and some good trainers, but they are the minority these days. Glad to see Artisan is one of the good ones. Real Apprenticeships are what is needed, minimum of 4 years with combined college and practical work. Inspect and Test needs to be put back into the standard electrician training as it was when I started. After 41 years I am despondent at the state of the Industry, Part P and the Solar industry has lowered standards even further.
Your spot on , I undertook a 4 year indentured apprenticeship in 1972 and have been involved in design and specification of electrical installations all of my working life. It's an achievement to pass exams but like every area of work you only gain and hone your skills being mentored and life long learning. I wouldn't want to employ an electrician without significant on the job experience as well as required qualifications. One thing that has stuck with me at the start of my career, if through your actions someone is fatally electricuted you are likely to face a manslaughter charge. This quest to do things at speed and shortening qualification period increases risk. I fully agree that the institutions accredited people to achieve part P compliance after a two week course is very concerning.
In 2008 i've done an electrical course with 2 private companies( one of them got burst at the end, rightly so)and i will not recommend it. It was a big waste of money and time. No one would employ you after unfortunetely. Never got anything out of it except small jobs for friends etc. Don't do it this way.
I am doing through a private college mate yh its true you dont learn much but i am doing it for the certificates. I also know electricians through family so i should be alright finding work. Sorry it didnt work out for you
@@tonywebb9909 Yea I was just saying to qualify in Ireland you must do an apprenticeship or at least that was the only way when I did it. You can of course qualify as an electrician in another country in whatever ways are possible there and get your qualifications recognised in Ireland if they are equivalent
5 Years is 3 years too long. It's utterly ridiculous amount of time to earn such a low wage. Apprenticeships need to be dramatically reduced in time and duration.
If kids do apprenticeships early in life, while they have no real living expense, earnings are not an issue. There was nothing wrong with 3 year training at 16-19 year old. Full rate after 21.
Look at it a different way 2 years on A levels 3 years for a degree and 100k worth of debt, no guarantees of a career at the end, and while grads earn more on average, that includes all unskilled labour, remove the laywers and doctors probs not that big a difference. 5 years on a low wage might be better then 5 years stacking up debt.
@@idi0tdetectioninprogress 6 months probation period and 5 and a bit yrs to do it, had to delay goin into a college phase once as well those were major recession yrs in ireland and holding onto the job was essential, very hard to get another one
Depends what your skill set is. If you could adapt into something like multiskilled facilities, its a possibility. Don't waste your time if starting from scratch.
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Thanks for this, I’m looking forward to some fun content this year starting with a badly needed and somewhat complex shed rewire.
Funny to hear you say “it’s like a golden ticket”. I am an electrical teacher in Australia and have mentioned that getting an apprenticeship these days is like getting a golden ticket. I found that being in industry gave me more flexibility as an electrical engineer as you cover a larger area (I did this for 37 years). I tell my students to be safe at all times, stick to your Regs and be confident in your knowledge and to never trust another electricians work, which is why you should test all the time. This is a positive thing ( no pun intended).
Great videos and keep up the great work. Happy safe New Year to you all.
Thanks so much for your kind words! You also call it a ‘golden ticket’-it really is. Your advice to your students is spot on, especially about testing everything and staying confident. Safety first, always! Appreciate the support and Happy New Year to you too
I wanted to become an electrician. Feel like it's less harsh on your body then other trades, and not everyone understands or wants to mess with electricity.
Not sure my uncle who was an electrician had terrible knees , he could hardly walk when he got to 70. All the bending down and fixing sockets.
@@Paulruk As long as you take care of your body and wear any knee protection if bending down a lot, you will be fine.
Instrumentation is where it’s at🫣
Being a sparky is one of the easiest trades to do and i dont mean getting the qualification i mean the actual job
Hahaha that’s what I thought . Just wait till your stuck in a cupboard on your arse for ages wiring a board and you’ll soon change your mind
Great video! I went down a very similar path to Ben, and I can definitely say it’s a tough journey! I lived and breathed electrics for about three years, and while the basics are fairly straightforward, that alone doesn’t make you an electrician. There’s so much more to it-it’s like opening Pandora’s box!
I’ve been qualified for about five years now, and I still feel like I’ve only scratched the surface. There’s a lot to consider, from the placement of accessories to even the process of ordering materials. It can be challenging, but it’s also incredibly rewarding. Keep up the great work!
Many years ago I was an apprentice joiner, a variety of apprenticeships were available then paying a lot less money than other jobs so you needed to be keen and dedicated, as the years went by the construction industry became an aging workforce as not many young people were given the opportunity as the apprenticeship schemes were phased out, maybe now it is time to look how successful the old apprenticeship schemes were, great video with great people, we were always proud of our various trades, good luck
2 years in trade school and 2,5 years as an apprentice to become an Electrician in Norway.
Reuben and Cory videos were pure gold, great to see him back and Luke too.
Thank You I found this really helpful, I want to become an electrician, I love renewables, EV’s and batteries I am a bricklayer by trade and teach Bricklaying but electrical is definitely the most interesting trade in my opinion,
I did a 4 year indentured EITB industrial Electrical apprenticeship Started in 1984, however there were many available back then with the abundance of factories, did day release for 4 years B-Tec and HNC , worked for a year then went on to achieve B.eng Degree. Worked JIB Technician a while , qualified on HV to 11Kv , mining abroad , steel industry and merchant Navy / Marine. Best Job in the world but I think you have to be very much hands on. The only electrical work I've never done is house bashing which I never would do. Top tip if you work Merchant marine and qualify do pay no taxes people ( life tip ) to earn a fortune.
17 years old, currently doing my Level 2 Electrotechnical at College, can’t wait to get an Apprenticeship and then become an Approved Sparky ⚡️💰
2 years in night school doing electrical installation then got an apprenticeship as a multi skilled maintenance engineer working on control panels and motors and automation
at 11.09 you mention you can sign off your own work once inspection and testing is achieved. This can be confusing from experience as some people may think you can sign off you own notifiable work. Even with inspection and testing, 18th edition, AM2 you will still need to be registered with a governing body if you go down the self employed route.
Hi, I've worked in an office for 28 years and decided to have a career change 2 years ago. Self funded my fast track, expensive, training to NVQ level which I enjoyed. Then because of limited experience I failed my first attempt at AM2. Got my experienced worker white ECS card. However, because of my age, lack of experience onsite, and perhaps the economy I'm struggling to find work. Tried local adverts and calling local companies and Indeed etc. Where are the jobs the Gov and Industry leaders say are out there? I liked the suggestion made in the video about making a short video to try to get a job, thanks.
Im a Maintenance Apprentice in the waste-water industry, and multi-skilled with both mechanical and eletrical. Definitely agree apprenticeship is the way to go getting into the trades, I'm no in my third year but have struggled massively with the electrical side as it's so advanced and overwhelming! Hoping I can learn alot this year though.
i was told i would never be an electrician because my maths wasn't good enough so i went else where.i find it odd that the trade says it cant enough guys to do the work but seems unwilling to train young folk
I was told same thing at school, but then what does teachers know
Great video!
What an interesting path Ben took, I assume he wasn't working on anything else when doing these full time courses. Ben said he did "their" training courses, who is he referring to?
Hey, Ben here. I used an excellent provider in Cambridgeshire called Electrical Courses Ltd.
It was pretty full time, however I was supported by a business I started 10 years ago.
Can’t wait for all the electrical content in 2025z
You think it's too late at 47 to retrain as sparky. I could do the city and guilds 2 and 3 but worry who would take a 47 year old on to get experience. Well done mate @@SmartFew
Nice video of the different paths to becoming a qualified Electrician and it was very good to see one of our very own Ben Tristem explaining his experience of our Electrical Improver route.
Hey guys, good to see you on here. Thanks for your excellent teaching.
@@SmartFew Cheers Ben. I have also subscribed to your channel and look forward to any future content. Any extra plugs for our business is always appreciated :D! All the best Neil.
@ of course, you deserve any plugs. I kiss you guys.
@@SmartFewkiss or miss😅
I watched your video about fitting lights in garage. And might have upgraded my garage lighting 😂 I also watched your video on wiring mistakes and today at work spotted an extension / multiple plug “thing” where the inner cables were exposed and suggested than was confined to the bin.
5 Years at day release college,got my C Cert,still learning now, 35 yeas later
It was five years when i did and that was before the AM2, which had to be added years later, it was totally already covered and not needed for people that were on full time sites. I did continue on and do the C course, not sure if they do that anymore but it was totally priceless, it even still pays for itself 30 years on.
I've had bad luck with Apprenticeships, been turned down by some because of my Learning Support as I struggle with Maths, was doing a Apprenticeship at a school as a IT Technician they were impressed with my knowledge with Networking, Servers etc but let me go because of my Maths after 2 years in, so stuck on Universal Credit and can't get a job due my learning support problems. It sucks.
I think that you put this across very well Jordan! As someone who had been in the industry for over 40 Years and seen many changes for the better, the hardest part is getting started, and then developing from there! After a very diverse career covering most aspects of the trade There is no substitute for experience! Every day is a learning day! The hardest thing that I found as you get on in years you do not retain information as easily And keeping up with qualifications becomes harder! So the earlier you start the more of a learning sponge you are! But the element of trust by an employer is key to getting started! It is a fabulous interesting industry & has served me well! Good luck to all those just starting off in their careers 😎👍🏻
Very informative video thanks for sharing. I am starting my journey via the third route mentioned so it was good to see it is possible to do.
Thanks for watching! Glad you found it helpful, and it’s great to hear you’re starting your journey. The third route is definitely doable-stick with it, and you’ll get there. Best of luck!
Get an apprenticeship with a DNO, they pay far more than most electrical firms and have plenty of overtime available.
Getting Part P should be simplified. It is annoying that I cannot legally create/certify a spur socket from the well-established ring without spending thousands on extra courses and NICEIC registration with some annual fees.
So I'm in Canada and I just watched a few of your videos. The last one being were 2 years ago. You took an apprentice electrician around and was quizzing him on questions on how to check a home. I'm assuming you have a video out that explains all the acronyms, but could you explain all the acronyms of the breakers you have in your panels?. We have GFCI for ground fault circuit interrupter. We have afci for arc fault circuit interrupter and we have Breakers that are a combo there of. If the breaker fits one space, it's a one pole. If it fits two spaces for 240 volt it's a double pole and then of course three pole for three-phase loads. we have Breakers that I'm assuming you guys do too. That fits two Breakers and one space making it a tandem.
Excellent video thank you. It’s important for bright kids to know there are alternatives to doing a very expensive university degree. Nowadays a trade can give you a better salary than a graduate, and much more rewarding work than sitting in an office.
Only go to university if a top university and a decent subject like STEM medicine, law etc. Electrician is far better than most crappy university degrees from crap universities
Subscribed to Bens channel. Thanks
Look forward to seeing you over there.
I wanted to fix radio/ television/ video when I left school in1976! I couldn't understand the maths! The questions were mire like statements rather than questions!!
I became a sparky instead. From 1976 (14th edition) through to 1981 (15th edition) things have changed. We will see more changes! Earthing foundation rears or low smoke cables throughout etc?
Wht job title is given to those who fix tvs, radios etc, is it electronics technician? Not engineer ?
Great video! So as I understand it from a career change perspective you’d be looking at 2 years at evening classes doing a level 2 and level 3 alongside your normal day job. Then you’d need to find an employer and gain the practical experience to complete a NVQ level 3 before finally completing the AM2 assessment and become fully qualified? I ask as I’m already 6 years deep into my career and can’t afford to take a pay cut to an apprenticeship wage so evening classes would be my route.
Ye this is the way. So you could stay in work while doing L2&3 at college. Then after college, you would look for work in the industry probably as an electricians mate. Here you would do your L3 NVQ and then go onto do the AM2 test. I'm currently doing this.
Useful channel !!
Good timing, I wondered how Reuben was getting on, hadn't seen much of him lately.
Luke's route is much like my own, I have retrained in my late 30s... I was employed in hospitality for some years at a large holiday park local to me, latterly in the kitchen where I enjoyed the pace and the buzz; but it doesn't work with small children and a family; working earlies, lates, weekends, half terms and the annual argument about who's working Xmas Day... enough was enough.
I was lucky enough to find employment with a local electrical firm, one of the bosses I knew through a friend and he knew my work ethic... they were looking for electrician's mates at the time and even though I had no experience or quals, they took a punt... and three years later, I'm still with them and working through a self-funded course to gain my NVQ3.
Having passed Luke a few times on the road in Cambridge, my aim is to have a nice smart van like his!
Hey Jordan, where is the promised link to Ben's channel? You are going to make me type it in aren't you!
Thanks for the video, really interesting to hear the modern routes into the trade.
The link has now been added!
35 years. Time served apprentice. 👍
Forever it's a career of learning. Every 10 years back in the classroom BS2382 aka Wiring Regs. New products, New Tools.
Great video as always guy, but I’ve got different opinions about this as someone who is fully qualified electrician and I did my apprenticeship in South Africa which is where I’m from, it’s a 3 year degree and the whole of first year you’ll be at college and the second year you’ll be onsite the whole year doing practical work then you come back for your final year to complete your degree. And the amount of knowledge you gained from those 3 years it’s no where near that I see here.
I relocated to the UK and they said I had to redo my electrical again, I did study 3 years again here and they don’t even teach a lot of things. And when you’re onsite, the standard of work, the quality is shocking and yet someone will be saying he’s a fully qualified electrician and he got qualified by just studying weekends or few nights
Thanks for sharing your perspective-it’s always interesting to hear how things are done in different countries! Sounds like your training in South Africa was incredibly thorough, and I can imagine it must’ve been frustrating to redo your qualifications after relocating. The differences in standards and training can be a real eye-opener, and I agree that hands-on experience is so important for building real expertise. Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment!
Which companies do you recommend for the fast tra route i have worked with electricians for a few years in the past
Is that Ben Tristem?
Purchased some of his courses on Udemy a few years back
Indeed it is
I have a strong interest in electrical circuits and related topics, and I’m exploring career options in the field. I’m deciding between pursuing an apprenticeship as an electrician, in instrumentation, or in control systems. Could anyone share insights on the earning potential for electricians in countries like us, Canada or even Australia? This would help me make a more informed decision.
How has he got through inspection and testing with little to no experience?
9:10 Are you supposed to pull the cutout fuse every time you take the cover off a consumer unit? I'm not clear what they are expecting of you there...
He means turning the main switch to isolate all circuits
@lewis94uk But the main switch is under the same cover, so there is still the possibility of touching live conductors if the cover is removed. It reduces the risk, but there will always be risk unless you completely disconnect the whole installation. It seems arbitrary where they are drawing the line...
@@thomasdalton1508exactly, have said this countless times before , manufacturers should be incorporating shrouded terminals and cable boot kits for their main switches .
What’s the name of the course that Luke did? And where can you get the course ?
I was a gas engineer/plumber for just on 15 years. Retired in 2015 and I am cream crackered, my back is done in 😢😢😢
Heartbreaking failing the AM2 on safe isolation😭
Another good way to build on your practice and knowledge is to start messing with your household electrocics like your moms toaster... 😁😅
Have you ever actually worked on a switch panle like that Jordan? from what I'v seen Artisan are mostly domestic.
There is an important thing missed here, part of that is the scope of the video, but the biggest blame sits with the ECA and the NICEIC.
If electricians are trained properly, they receive proper education at college and are mentored properly by experienced and competent electricians then any qualified electrician knows what does and does not make a safe installation and is compliant with the Regs, thus a properly trained electrician knows how to test an installation without spending another £1000+ on Test and Inspect.
The industry has lost its professionalism and its soul which has been outsourced to third party trainers and scam artists which is lowering standards and damaging the industry.
The industry has good employers, good contractors and some good trainers, but they are the minority these days. Glad to see Artisan is one of the good ones.
Real Apprenticeships are what is needed, minimum of 4 years with combined college and practical work. Inspect and Test needs to be put back into the standard electrician training as it was when I started.
After 41 years I am despondent at the state of the Industry, Part P and the Solar industry has lowered standards even further.
@jim.franklin: Thanks, totally agree with you but you just saved me writing pretty much the same thing.
Your spot on , I undertook a 4 year indentured apprenticeship in 1972 and have been involved in design and specification of electrical installations all of my working life. It's an achievement to pass exams but like every area of work you only gain and hone your skills being mentored and life long learning. I wouldn't want to employ an electrician without significant on the job experience as well as required qualifications.
One thing that has stuck with me at the start of my career, if through your actions someone is fatally electricuted you are likely to face a manslaughter charge. This quest to do things at speed and shortening qualification period increases risk.
I fully agree that the institutions accredited people to achieve part P compliance after a two week course is very concerning.
Really good video, particularly the last chap. Good points and easy to argue very confident is less competent
judging by his qualifications he was well on the way from the staRT
I need help getting into it. I started late as well
In 2008 i've done an electrical course with 2 private companies( one of them got burst at the end, rightly so)and i will not recommend it. It was a big waste of money and time. No one would employ you after unfortunetely. Never got anything out of it except small jobs for friends etc. Don't do it this way.
I am doing through a private college mate yh its true you dont learn much but i am doing it for the certificates.
I also know electricians through family so i should be alright finding work.
Sorry it didnt work out for you
Apprenticeship only in Ireland.
You can join Safeelectric provided you have AM2 and goldcard. This is if you did not go through the apprentice route
@@tonywebb9909 Yea I was just saying to qualify in Ireland you must do an apprenticeship or at least that was the only way when I did it. You can of course qualify as an electrician in another country in whatever ways are possible there and get your qualifications recognised in Ireland if they are equivalent
Quick question! Ring or radials? 🤔
@@kevinlawes591 gotta be a radial these days surely, much simpler to test.
Depends on the reference method , 32A radial ref method 101 is a 10mm or a 4mm ring
Where is that in the regs?
@@matthewhammond859 table 4D5 page 456
Do you need your English language gcse to get these qualifications?
Can you do residential too
Hold on, my bro ruben is on his 4th year already 😮
5 Years is 3 years too long. It's utterly ridiculous amount of time to earn such a low wage.
Apprenticeships need to be dramatically reduced in time and duration.
If kids do apprenticeships early in life, while they have no real living expense, earnings are not an issue.
There was nothing wrong with 3 year training at 16-19 year old. Full rate after 21.
Look at it a different way 2 years on A levels 3 years for a degree and 100k worth of debt, no guarantees of a career at the end, and while grads earn more on average, that includes all unskilled labour, remove the laywers and doctors probs not that big a difference. 5 years on a low wage might be better then 5 years stacking up debt.
Fastest route to becoming an electrician from a maintenance electrical technician?
Where is the Link to Ben's video? Am I blind?
Video link is now in the description for you!
Jack the lad cowboy - 3 weeks
Professional Paul - 4 years
Heya, yes there are more way to get to something/learn new thinks
The third route should be banned. To be able to go out on your own and sign off work on your own, less than a year from starting is dangerous
So step 1, turn down a quote from Jordan?! 😂
That quote was certainly a double edged sword!
Started in 2007 finished in 2013, was a long run
Hard work pays off!
That's ridiculous, you may as well have done a degree!!!!!
@@idi0tdetectioninprogress 6 months probation period and 5 and a bit yrs to do it, had to delay goin into a college phase once as well those were major recession yrs in ireland and holding onto the job was essential, very hard to get another one
If you are teaching us, Andrew, it would not take long.
When you have a million under the bed in cash you can call yourself an electrician
TLDR; Go to college then Uni.
And I too old at 56?
No
Depends what your skill set is. If you could adapt into something like multiskilled facilities, its a possibility.
Don't waste your time if starting from scratch.
Even fully qualified electricians make mistakes. What does it even mean anymore?
Become a toilet fixer Evan more money ,,😮
;Evan; more??
Release Nick Bundy.
LOL
What an actuall clown level 2 in 3 weeks and level 3 in 3 weeks :) where did you do them in Mohameds Singh school ?
In rs3 my school MY BRUDDA
You guys are house bashers ,serious don't over sell your abilities .
Someone is jealous😂😂 house bashers? In what world?