It is sad that our Media, both print and TV, have never warned this nation that we were fast approaching third world status when it comes to energy. To stop using cleaner burning NZ coal and Importing dirty burning Indonesian coal is a height of madness that has the Greens footprints all over it. And the closing of Marsden Point should be deemed a Criminal Act and Charges Laid.
@@JG-us9lu it shows how little you understand about the Exxon Valdez. How about you ask Shane on who will clean up as we have not even 5% of the resources they had over there. It took them three years and they are still monitoring it. Or imagine a Deep Horizon happening off the coast of New Plymouth? Shane and his mates will take their dinghy’s and clean up in no time right? You guys have no idea what kind of money it takes to do it properly - we will attract the like of Petrobras. Third world oil companies will get the drill rights and destroy our coasts.
@@JG-us9lu imagine a deep horizon off the coast from New Plymouth. We have not even 5% of the money and none of the equipment the Americans had on hand to clean up. Shane and his mates will hand out drill rights to third world operators like Petrobras. It’s not a matter of if something happens out there, it’s a matter of when. You and your grand children won’t be going fishing for many decades to come.
I suggest, you just, with your , negativity, and, lack of true Intelligence..(in Life, what would you actually do with a very Beautiful woman...sophisticated...
Exactly if you only walk around your house and pay attention to things in it you'll soon realize just how many products have been produced by way of Fossil fuels etc we will be plunged back into Stone Age where we have thousands of years trying to crawl out of it, its a fools game.We don't need to follow other country's because most of them have tried this and its been a complete disaster for its citizens. ✌
Release the water and seabed back to all Kiwis. You know full well how it works, he who controls the water has control over everything. Stop playing us for fools. Be transparent, there is substantial gain in these negotiations for Maori because they are the controlling factor. The truth is that you can not accomplish your goals without there consent., under the current law. Your the law maker now . Get your ACT together and change the law. You campaigned for all New Zealanders, NOW PROVE IT.
On the MACA Law amendment: NZF and ACT are for it...... why is National dragging its feet? Ex-Minister Finlayson is campaigning for no change to the law. Perhaps Minister Potaka - who handles this issue - could be invited to explain.
Well tapping into natural resources like Gas,Oil and Coal has a way smaller foot print on the landscape than unreliable,interminate and a very low output overall with minimal storage capacity than the renewables that is solar and wind which need replacing in 15 years or so disregarding any Cyclones etc that could occur plus destroy the landscape, Good farming land and kill alot of Birds.I thought the whole idea was to make N.Z resellent and to protect health,local food supplys im Confused?
@mountainviews46 Yes 👍 hydro delivers about that but if you have low periods of rain fall over a few years that could make things interesting solar panels and wind turbines are not recyclable and are toxic and poinous to the environment if buried these will leach you cant grow anything and will end up in the water table possibly bottom line is is that the real world science data over Co2 has been corrupted to look like its the Villian there are lots of factors involved and the biggest one is the malankovich cycles and the sun 🌞 this cycle is very slow we are coming out of a little ice age and now we have a small amount of warming which is good,the planet has green hugely with this crops are growing well in deserts etc showed by satalights fact so the whole argument is flawed to begin with the models are hyperinflated they don't include the negative feed back loops, the planet will always correct itself its been around for billions of years and has been through alot worse than the predicted 1.5 degrees we need to spend money on resistance for natural disaster,weather events.
So why are Maori blocking our hydro generation consents, we have 3 consents on private land being blocked right now. No dams required, just a side intake and outlet. Also blocking renewal of existing hydro consents and calming existing hydro plants. They have signed there own hydro consent ,on there own so called historic site . (It passed consenting in one month ) not the three years it has taken us so far. These are facts that are kept out of sight of the general public. What are your thoughts?
@@normankeoghan5298 U.Ns 2030 Sustainable Development Goals sounds harmless but in reality very destructive on the General Public etc He who controls the Water and Food supply and distributions there of Controls the people end of story if you own the land etc I would just do it anyway.The Govt over the last 8 years have not proven themselves to be trustworthy and do not have its citizens best interests at heart and It will basically come down to individuals and their communitys to take care of their own well being because things are getting very serious overseas and I wouldn't be sitting back and expect the govt to come to the rescue in that regard, I think alot of people are waking up and have realized during covid just what the govts agendas are its just one big club and we ain't in it. ✌
Half the NZ vehicle fleet plus essential service vehicles should be running on a viable LPG network to aid with resilience in case of overseas fuel supply disruptions
Shane Jones, I am a New Zealander, actually my Ancestors arrived NZ 1860's (early) many individuals, have, (regardless of any Government ) have done so much for this Country, along of course other cultures, whom have contributed, (quietly) and , those peoples, have gone beyond just anything...from 1961...!!...just, within their acumen...doing , (not only for their Company) but for this /Our Country...quietly. and, Now, this , Coalition Government...up shots, Like, Winston Peters, along, Shane Jones, and, Seymour....and...that...National,, regard , Roads, and ...etc...!!
I need a new car for the miss's Shane. How about letting in some decent cars buddy. Not electric, not hybrid, a good old petrol engine would do me brother. I won't buy anything else as there is too much Bull sh#t around electric and hybrid. Good on ya.
New Zealand got what they deserved when they put identity politics ahead of common sense . The ardern experiment was catastrophic for New Zealand . Why the people of New Zealand thought a country could run on feelings , cultural wokeness and eco romantics was ever a good idea was mind blowing .
I don’t know if many citizens realise that natural gas is an essential,economic and convenient fuel for heating and cooking in our detention centres and correctional units.Natural gas line runs right past HB Regional Prison and this is the logical,indigenous fuel to power such facilities one being security of supply.No power cables need to be relied upon.Throughout the North Island chefs in our tourist restaurants and hotels prefer gas for its superior characteristics to cater for discerning international guests-those that drop money and keep the economy going.Gross energy has to come from somewhere. Personally we have tried solar panels to just supplement our power requirements. Unfortunately they don’t cut it.Bright light is not really available for 6 months of the year in NZ.
Let's be fair to nz first here. The first 3 years of labour were decent as nz first controlled the steering wheel and the handbrake. Once labour got full power they went completely f@cking mental.
@@smudge6831 I'm no Greenie by any means but what about Rocket labs Co2 Emissions? We are being told to go Electric, but not Companies like Rocket Lab. I'm keeping my Gas guzzling Holden.
The dream is over, because of greed. By Mr Jones generation and others who simply don't care. Profit is the driver, economics will not work, we simply don't have the population to cover the taxes needed for the constant growth, we're told is so positive. Treating everything like a business, is immoral. Aside, people are suffering simply because of greed.
If you think it’s bad now wait until that war in the Middle East kicks off that New Zealand has soldiers there and because New Zealand is backing the wrong team we won’t get any fuel here whatsoever and if we do it’ll be like 150 dollars a barrel so look forward to hyperinflation when they closed Marsden point I didn’t hear anything from national New Zealand first or the act party against it
National and NZ First both made statements not supporting the closure of Marsden Point Oil Refinery section. A minority opposition (National)(The closure leaves NZ vulnerable -obscure nz website) and not in Parliament (NZ first)(Shane Jones- beware of greens bearing gifts - clean car discount, fb post) at the time, they had no political sway to do anything about the refinery closure. The Australian Government has subsidised their oil refineries billions of dollars to keep them open.
@@alanb9337 they could’ve taken the government to court a statement is only lipservice because what it did is it meant that we had no oil security and the reason they closed it was because The government wanted to impose a lower sulphur content in the fuel that would’ve cost $2 billion to achieve and the government knew that the company could not afford it so as I said we have no fuel security and as I stated as soon as World War II kicks off we will not be be supplied with any fuel so how do you think they are going to supply supermarkets how do you think the farming sector is going to survive I don’t see how you can make an excuse for them because remember they are all on the same team
@@badchefi Try and keep your mind above your belt. I see after looking at your device remotely that you also appear to watch a lot of 'Adult content', .
@@mikebrown7269 you used that same response two months ago Mike. You neither have the technology nor the ability to check my devise. However you are stuck with your own self - I guess you and Shane have lots more in common than me. Best of luck to you.
time to tone down the aggro now mr jones. it may have been cathartic at first but they are still people with legitimate opinions & a concern for their country
It is sad that our Media, both print and TV, have never warned this nation that we were fast approaching third world status when it comes to energy. To stop using cleaner burning NZ coal and Importing dirty burning Indonesian coal is a height of madness that has the Greens footprints all over it. And the closing of Marsden Point should be deemed a Criminal Act and Charges Laid.
The greens idolize third world country's
To be fair they were very busy fighting for the rights of men in dresses to enter female toilets.
Good one Shane, keep pushing the envelope.. ❤😊🇳🇿
what envelope. No Postie in reality would deliver !!
Every Alaskan citizen gets dividends from their oil, gas and mineral exploits
The greatest dividend they got was Exxon Valdez -
Yeah, but that was no where near as big a disaster as the Green/Labour coalition in NZ.
@@JG-us9lu it shows how little you understand about the Exxon Valdez.
How about you ask Shane on who will clean up as we have not even 5% of the resources they had over there.
It took them three years and they are still monitoring it.
Or imagine a Deep Horizon happening off the coast of New Plymouth?
Shane and his mates will take their dinghy’s and clean up in no time right?
You guys have no idea what kind of money it takes to do it properly - we will attract the like of Petrobras.
Third world oil companies will get the drill rights and destroy our coasts.
@@JG-us9lu imagine a deep horizon off the coast from New Plymouth.
We have not even 5% of the money and none of the equipment the Americans had on hand to clean up.
Shane and his mates will hand out drill rights to third world operators like Petrobras.
It’s not a matter of if something happens out there, it’s a matter of when.
You and your grand children won’t be going fishing for many decades to come.
@@badchefi come gerbil are you ever going to come into the real world. Youre getting really boring.
Good show Mike, keep going.
You former right - it’s just a show - a sh.. show.
i'm impressed by jones
Why ?
@@DrRatweasel i believe he has a high degree of common sense and a colourful rhetoric
Yea I am too
I suggest, you just, with your , negativity, and, lack of true Intelligence..(in Life, what would you actually do with a very Beautiful woman...sophisticated...
Only a True Leader will re issue licences
Sabotage always comes camouflaged ...
If the pipe dream had continued, our future would have been a nightmare under Labour and their mates.
I’d love to hear Chloe from the Green Party’s take on this 🤣🤣 she’s definitely a unicorn kisser
What a MAN! Go to it Shane. Great job.
Best you bend over, and , attempt to ride your BMX , backward up some hill..!!
About bloody time. Yay 💪🇳🇿
Shane is what we need
just some "blow hard, to Influence the Mass people like yourself
It would be advantageous for NZ to get to a point of self sufficiency instead of thinking China is the answer. Tap into our gas and oil
Imagine if NZ had 50% of its vehicles Electric our grid would crash so wake up get looking for natural gas.
Exactly if you only walk around your house and pay attention to things in it you'll soon realize just how many products have been produced by way of Fossil fuels etc we will be plunged back into Stone Age where we have thousands of years trying to crawl out of it, its a fools game.We don't need to follow other country's because most of them have tried this and its been a complete disaster for its citizens. ✌
If homes had solar and wind power, it could be different.
Get the refinery back up and running as well.
@@888WulfDog888 Might as well build a new one. Labour sabotaged our economy for decades.
@@adsdft585 Ummmm,NO
🤣🤣 importing Indo coal, you just can't make this stuff up its that wild. I guess our own coal is no good.
Nah it's better to import over priced crap coal and leave our high quality coal underground so we can 'save' the planet.
Blame labour/ greens for that stupidity
Nz coal actually better and burns hotter and cleaner so I'm told. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.
How ardern managed to destroy new Zealand in only 5 years
Release the water and seabed back to all Kiwis. You know full well how it works, he who controls the water has control over everything. Stop playing us for fools. Be transparent, there is substantial gain in these negotiations for Maori because they are the controlling factor. The truth is that you can not accomplish your goals without there consent., under the current law. Your the law maker now . Get your ACT together and change the law. You campaigned for all New Zealanders, NOW PROVE IT.
One vote, law and seabed for all...Long live democracy!
On the MACA Law amendment: NZF and ACT are for it...... why is National dragging its feet? Ex-Minister Finlayson is campaigning for no change to the law.
Perhaps Minister Potaka - who handles this issue - could be invited to explain.
Well tapping into natural resources like Gas,Oil and Coal has a way smaller foot print on the landscape than unreliable,interminate and a very low output overall with minimal storage capacity than the renewables that is solar and wind which need replacing in 15 years or so disregarding any Cyclones etc that could occur plus destroy the landscape, Good farming land and kill alot of Birds.I thought the whole idea was to make N.Z resellent and to protect health,local food supplys im Confused?
Also, let it not be forgotten that we are fortunate to have hydroelectric power, which is renewable
@mountainviews46 Yes, that's my point exactly.
@mountainviews46 Yes 👍 hydro delivers about that but if you have low periods of rain fall over a few years that could make things interesting solar panels and wind turbines are not recyclable and are toxic and poinous to the environment if buried these will leach you cant grow anything and will end up in the water table possibly bottom line is is that the real world science data over Co2 has been corrupted to look like its the Villian there are lots of factors involved and the biggest one is the malankovich cycles and the sun 🌞 this cycle is very slow we are coming out of a little ice age and now we have a small amount of warming which is good,the planet has green hugely with this crops are growing well in deserts etc showed by satalights fact so the whole argument is flawed to begin with the models are hyperinflated they don't include the negative feed back loops, the planet will always correct itself its been around for billions of years and has been through alot worse than the predicted 1.5 degrees we need to spend money on resistance for natural disaster,weather events.
So why are Maori blocking our hydro generation consents, we have 3 consents on private land being blocked right now. No dams required, just a side intake and outlet. Also blocking renewal of existing hydro consents and calming existing hydro plants. They have signed there own hydro consent ,on there own so called historic site . (It passed consenting in one month ) not the three years it has taken us so far. These are facts that are kept out of sight of the general public. What are your thoughts?
@@normankeoghan5298 U.Ns 2030 Sustainable Development Goals sounds harmless but in reality very destructive on the General Public etc He who controls the Water and Food supply and distributions there of Controls the people end of story if you own the land etc I would just do it anyway.The Govt over the last 8 years have not proven themselves to be trustworthy and do not have its citizens best interests at heart and It will basically come down to individuals and their communitys to take care of their own well being because things are getting very serious overseas and I wouldn't be sitting back and expect the govt to come to the rescue in that regard, I think alot of people are waking up and have realized during covid just what the govts agendas are its just one big club and we ain't in it. ✌
NZ First !! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Zero Point Energy is the solution
Half the NZ vehicle fleet plus essential service vehicles should be running on a viable LPG network to aid with resilience in case of overseas fuel supply disruptions
Hato Hone were running an electric ambulance around Hampton Downs the other day.
@@alanb9337Electricity still needs oil, gas and coal to produce it
The funny thing was we had that in the 80s. Heaps of the fleet were on cng and lpg. And it worked well.
We have oil gas coal and more than enough gold to pay our debit.
Go and have a nice one Shane.
Wat a hard shit?🖕
Shane Jones, I am a New Zealander, actually my Ancestors arrived NZ 1860's (early) many individuals, have, (regardless of any Government ) have done so much for this Country, along of course other cultures, whom have contributed, (quietly) and , those peoples, have gone beyond just anything...from 1961...!!...just, within their acumen...doing , (not only for their Company) but for this /Our Country...quietly. and, Now, this , Coalition Government...up shots, Like, Winston Peters, along, Shane Jones, and, Seymour....and...that...National,, regard , Roads, and ...etc...!!
Good to hear from Shane, here's to a better future for our country, cheers Mike.
I need a new car for the miss's Shane. How about letting in some decent cars buddy. Not electric, not hybrid, a good old petrol engine would do me brother. I won't buy anything else as there is too much Bull sh#t around electric and hybrid. Good on ya.
Why isn't there a geothermal power station in Auckland?
New Zealand got what they deserved when they put identity politics ahead of common sense . The ardern experiment was catastrophic for New Zealand . Why the people of New Zealand thought a country could run on feelings , cultural wokeness and eco romantics was ever a good idea was mind blowing .
lPG is a (small) component of natural gas. Cannot have one without the other.
I don’t know if many citizens realise that natural gas is an essential,economic and convenient fuel for heating and cooking in our detention centres and correctional units.Natural gas line runs right past HB Regional Prison and this is the logical,indigenous fuel to power such facilities one being security of supply.No power cables need to be relied upon.Throughout the North Island chefs in our tourist restaurants and hotels prefer gas for its superior characteristics to cater for discerning international guests-those that drop money and keep the economy going.Gross energy has to come from somewhere. Personally we have tried solar panels to just supplement our power requirements. Unfortunately they don’t cut it.Bright light is not really available for 6 months of the year in NZ.
ffs not all New Zealands are stupid..Get on with it . Shane we need some common sense here.
Let’s be real, Winston Peter’s and Shane Jones party put Ardern into power back in 2017. This mess lands at their feet.
So true , big mistake
Let's be fair to nz first here. The first 3 years of labour were decent as nz first controlled the steering wheel and the handbrake. Once labour got full power they went completely f@cking mental.
OMV not OMD
Perhaps we should also scrap The National Space Policy and get back down to earth.
Rocket lab is a big deal. So no.
@@smudge6831 I'm no Greenie by any means but what about Rocket labs Co2 Emissions? We are being told to go Electric, but not Companies like Rocket Lab. I'm keeping my Gas guzzling Holden.
The dream is over, because of greed. By Mr Jones generation and others who simply don't care. Profit is the driver, economics will not work, we simply don't have the population to cover the taxes needed for the constant growth, we're told is so positive. Treating everything like a business, is immoral. Aside, people are suffering simply because of greed.
If you think it’s bad now wait until that war in the Middle East kicks off that New Zealand has soldiers there and because New Zealand is backing the wrong team we won’t get any fuel here whatsoever and if we do it’ll be like 150 dollars a barrel so look forward to hyperinflation when they closed Marsden point I didn’t hear anything from national New Zealand first or the act party against it
National and NZ First both made statements not supporting the closure of Marsden Point Oil Refinery section. A minority opposition (National)(The closure leaves NZ vulnerable -obscure nz website) and not in Parliament (NZ first)(Shane Jones- beware of greens bearing gifts - clean car discount, fb post) at the time, they had no political sway to do anything about the refinery closure. The Australian Government has subsidised their oil refineries billions of dollars to keep them open.
@@alanb9337 they could’ve taken the government to court a statement is only lipservice because what it did is it meant that we had no oil security and the reason they closed it was because The government wanted to impose a lower sulphur content in the fuel that would’ve cost $2 billion to achieve and the government knew that the company could not afford it so as I said we have no fuel security and as I stated as soon as World War II kicks off we will not be be supplied with any fuel so how do you think they are going to supply supermarkets how do you think the farming sector is going to survive I don’t see how you can make an excuse for them because remember they are all on the same team
How is your mate Stan Semenoff doing Shane? You haven’t changed one bit….
Tissue??
@@mikebrown7269 No don’t need one, ask Shane as he is probably staying at a Motel and will need some.
@@badchefi Try and keep your mind above your belt. I see after looking at your device remotely that you also appear to watch a lot of 'Adult content', .
@@mikebrown7269 you used that same response two months ago Mike.
You neither have the technology nor the ability to check my devise.
However you are stuck with your own self - I guess you and Shane have lots more in common than me.
Best of luck to you.
@@badchefi As i said before, apart from your deflecting, try and keep your mind above your belt. And, do try and keep up.
time to tone down the aggro now mr jones. it may have been cathartic at first but they are still people with legitimate opinions & a concern for their country
Actually “they” are communist sympathisers and are trying to destroy New Zealand.
Lmao, good one, ever thought of being a comedian?
@@paulallen5025 The enemy within. You are so very right.
@hyndscs You got that dead right. Hit the nail on the head.
Like Adern took her payoff money and ran
I'm impressed by Jones too,