Tainui group holdings have enough money and assets to pull every poor Maori family out of poverty, they even have enough to set up their own Maori health authority if they wanted to. Te Pati are holding out their hands to the wrong fat cats
@@jwatstom When you consider the debt level we are in ,No one has any money ,except the 1% rs .The last Govt left us owing $147.5 billion while they virtue signalled us to near bankruptcy in 3 yrs . Astoundingly adding $10 billion debt during their last 3 months in office ..So much for crushing poverty . Now catastrophic failure is touted at resounding success by the faithful..
@@jwatstom I don't know Tainui's financial performance, but some tribes have been generating quite good profits, and it should especially be noted that the tribe entities only pay 17.5% income tax, compared with business tax rate of 28%. So they are advantaged, hence should not complain.
Wouldn’t surprise me if National end up a junior party after the next election. Luxon is certainly conspicuous by his absence. And when he is here he is frightened to death of Māori activists. Thank goodness for New Zealand first.
Thank goodness he has a couple of pit bulls with the likes of Shane and Winston at his side as they definitely seem of stronger character @@delinquentinparadise
@@delinquentinparadiseDon't think you are right.. Luxton has been out of the country and before the Christchurch meeting he is off to try to talk to Tauinui. I think that is where Luxton's strengths lie... he gets very competent people that he has trust in and gives them the power to sort things in the area of their portfolios, and so we are hearing from Winston, Jones and today young Simeon Brown making a lot of sense ...it is the mark of a good manager and that is what the country has needed for a long time A GOOD MANAGER. It is only the likes of Ardern and Hipkins who felt their face had to be on everything and everything was a photo shoot pr session for them ... look at me, look at me! I remember listening to Judith Collins saying about Luxton, "if you have his trust and he knows your capabilities he lets you get on with the job and that is greatly appreciated". Nothing worst than you doing all the hard yards then your boss takes the credit and gets the limelight
Very true @@valeriehughes1008... In less words, Luxon is a Macro Manager, while Labour are full of Micro managers due to the inability to actually manage anything.
NZ is a democracy, not based in tribal feudalism! The Maori tribes DON'T get to dictate what the current Govt is allowed to do on policy democratically taken to the people of NZ. They DON'T have veto rights!!! I would add that Australians also REJECTED The Voice, which attempted the same circumventing of democracy. As someone else already pointed out, this racialisation of a country was done in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. It ended in rampant racially driven violence and starvation.
@@roga8681okay numpty. What democracy has seperate electoral roles and council representation based on race? So no, we are not a democracy. 🤷 You must be a head in the sand wokester…
Not surprised to know that Tuku Morgan behind this. Tainui is only one tribe out of many. There are some Iwi's that don't believe in the kingdom of Tainui. They are not superior to any other.
The treaty was signed by my people too the British! We need to get rid of it. It wasnt designed to be held at ransom by some moari people thinking its all about them! Time to move with the times and unite as 1 people New Zealanders
Your comment is only the second personal one I have seen in a very long time that actually states my ancestors signed the treaty as well, good on you. Just goes to show the manipulation that has been going on for many years to make us think and feel ....it is all about them. Time to put the document in it's place in history and move on.
1000% ARGREED!! Obsolete the treaty, unelected king and all the other toxic propaganda that follows it. Unite as one people, one people of mix cultures and religions, etc
I have been bleating on and getting Maori bashed me for it and have said just as you have said so well Joseph... the treaty was signed by my early British ancestors too.. and it was designed to unite all our citizens as one equal people...and to some Maori tribes the "equal" to all other Maori was not accepted well as they deemed themselves more superior.. the "all peoples equal" was greatly appreciated by many of the smaller tribes. The majority of Maori do not go along with all the current nonsense so now is the time for them to speak out - extremist ism will not bode well in the end for Maori.
Pleased to hear NZF understanding the mission creep that is the modern treaty industry. Don't let it happen NZF, don't let it happen, or we will be more like Rhodesia.
Rhodesia's infrastructure and everything in it was built by cringe squint dare i say it ....c o l o n i s e r s...ouch there i said it.!!!! it was built by them into a great country for everyone. Then a wonderful indigenuos Bishop Mugabe rigged the electoral system had a chance to steal the land back, and all it's wealth , changed the name to Zimbabwe to cleanse the land of the colonisers, killed and plundered white 4th generation farmers, caused chaos and rioting and looting. Driving them off their farms and businesses, some survivors with nothing but the shirt on their back and what few rand they could hide in shoes. Soon there were no taxpayers or employers left to support or maintain basic utilities and services. The coffers were looted and distributed among Mugabe's family and some supporters were bribed. Inflation skyrocketed, food was almost non existent because the white farmers had left. Now jobless farm workers ate breeding stock and seed so no future growth or planting work was done...soon there was no food. crime soared, anarchy ruled, rapes burglaries, murders were commonplace, destruction of street lights for copper cables and other braindead thefts destroyed coloniser's infrastructure, no wages to pay govt. security, police, health workers, educators etc. etc. Zimbabwe fell into 3rd world status as one of the worst places on the planet to live. Sound familiar???? yes the warning signs are there.@@panimarsh9910
and one of nanaias last comments was when she was asked "would you join te maori pati"no i wont race based politics dont work full stop" now that is a very hefty observation from maori elite.and a clear warning to john tamiheres rabble.
You say the King and Tuku, well its Tuku who is pulling the Maori Kings strings. Tuku Formerly known as Capt'n Underpants, is the most dangerous man in NZ at the present time. Who will rid us of this man?
Why do you say six years? NZ First were part of government 2017-2020. There were two governments NZ First/Labour and the Labour. Do just follow the narrative that is promoted.
As long as Maori pick up the bill for all this stuff, including the never ending court cases, more power to their elbow. It's when their activities are funded by the majority mandate they kick against, I become unhappy.
If Maori lose the court cases, then absolutely they should have to foot the bill - as this is the usual process. If they win, then unfortunately to some the side that loses will have to pay.
@giovannisheh2270 I agree, as long as these are cases bought in the courts of law we all have to use. If they are outside the mainstream and exclusive, I don't agree that the general tax payer should be liable.
I would like the amount of money that has been spent on Maori only initiatives, in the last 10 years published for all to see as I have Maori friends who want to see where all those millions and millions of dollars have gone as they have not seen any and they are not happy about it. Who and where did it all go to?
White lawyers and politicians obviously like you said Maori have never seen a cent don't know any who have ever in the fifty years of being a Maori on this earth yet to meet a solitary one.
Its not coming out of tax payers money ......did you say that about that stupid flag vote the gov had wasting $56 million? That could of gone to all of our childrens schools or something useful for this country
He says or suggests the coalition will not listen to peoples views. They just follow a coalition agreement. 90 % of people did vote for NZ First or ACT.
I am also Ngapuhi/ Terarawa / but also Tainui/maniapoto . My 3x great grandfather married one of Tawhiaos daughters to cement a peace attempt between the two groups . Both having signed the treaty in 1840 to get the protection of the Queen . So,in short,Ngapuhi need to pay close attention to what the Tainui etc are up to ,because it may not be good for the average person
Does he want his undies out in public ? Cos if the tainui maoris wanna enter into national, other political parties are duty bound to expose the skid marks
I remember when there was the argument that some Maori didn't want the Maori language used in the main stream. Cause they had to live up to the high mana of Maori. A clear path has to be made on how change will be made to suit all NZ if change is to happen. It's funny how they are fighting the up hill battle in theses times..... When in the old days the Pa's were built on hills, Shane Jones said it be careful what you ask for
Needs to be remembered that all the Iwi groups operate their various businesses and commercial property assets under the umbrella of charities, meaning they pay no tax.
I've read that the tribal entities pay 17.5% income tax, whereas business tax is 28%, so they've got a race based privilege. Ok for a while but it should revert to 28%.
Most of us do. And if they didn't before well there now starting to see that they actually do
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NZs entire population is smaller than most international cities. Yet we have small groups of both middleclass white liberals and Māori trying to divide us into warring racist factions. All these small noisy groups noticeably have their hands out for lots of that capitalist generated cash. I thought skin colour, gender or sexual orientation wasn't meant to be a determination of intelligence or success but it sure scores highly on the perceived victimhood scoreboard.
New Zealand is a tiny country with a small number of Maori as part of the population. However politics levels out their desires in favour of the majority of people vote for.
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@@pgreen8531 No. You can't generalize the term Māori like that. there are plenty of people who are both Māori and New Zealanders.
Maori have to remember they are barely 11% of the population which they say will push for the continual extensive use of Te Reo .... what they have to realise is that the majority of our 5 million citizens of NZ have voted overwhelming for change and are prepared to push back on Maori to see that this does not happen. We demand our democracy and demand to be one equal people with equal rights. The country cannot afford to indulge the activist gravy trains of Maori any longer. Te Reo has cost the country many billions of dollars that could have well been used for the betterment OF ALL OUR SERVICES for all our people...e.g. up grading and sorting out hospitals, improving medical facilities, education facilities... right across the board to improving the road networks to get the country moving again - So much revenue has been swallowed up by the over indulgence of Te Reo which is only relevant to such a tiny percentage of the country....and now we have to have a government which governs for all citizens of NZ and not just the tiny, bullying and vicious, activist groups. Good to hear you Shane... well spoken!
@@stephenwride5695 pretty spot on this is what a vast number of people voted for, then labour say we dont know why we lost the election , cause they know
woke wannanutha handout crap.....your so -called guests have done more for this country than you will ever do. why keep changing the articles of the treaty and reinventing it? @@jwatstom
Good on you Shane I hope your government can sort out this nonsense and huge waste of money you may need more than three years, stay honest and true and I'm sure you will get another term.
If tainui wanna enter into national politics they need to to make sure their undies have no skid marks cos other political parties will be duty bound to expose them at a national level
@@tonynicholson3328I know what you mean. It's still very annoying Modifying sport like that. How many Maori play cricket again? Oh that's right, stuff all.
They go on about protecting their language, it's only in modern times they've had one universal language, and before the English arrived there was no written language, no alphabet to use,no te reo made up of English letters, so cheers to the white man for bringing your language to life!!
I use to advocate for Tino Rangatiratanga many years ago, an old school 'radical' you could say. Thanks to ACT/NZF/National I'm now back in the game! Thanks guys for opening up Pandora's box, just the wakeup call many of us needed!
Well said Shane 🇳🇿.. you tell it as it is. Its all attention seeking and having a tantrum because the spoilt child of the nation is not getting its own way 😊..
nothing has changed , modernity and all its progress goes straight out the door for ancient Maori utu. which i have no problem with ....until you bring politics into it. Politics is for ALL New Zealanders , it is above race or creed Indigenous or immigrant Religion or cult. This is the very reason why WE changed the Government. it is OUR right and duty to vote, and abide by the will of the majority when votes are counted. Maori take your utu off the floor of Government and resolve it ( or not ) on your Marae.
Kingitanga going 5 finger discount shopping this weekend at Scottie's... Tuku's silk underpants have skiddies.... need some more coloniser's threads...... Spent the last lot back for more.
Well spoken Shane Jones and NZ First, Happy New Year. Agree with your sentiment, yes, upholding democracy and respecting the outcome of the election is paramount to running NZ. Activists creating division can't come between voters and the successful political parties. Discussions and debates yes, however "majority" decided which policies would be in place.
Maori have their own TV channels and radio stations that non Te Reo speakers cannot understand so why do they want the bloody news and programs on the general english TV and radio to be smattered with the Reo, shut up moaning listen to your own stations
A problem we have in ending all this bs is all the catering that has been done towards Maori has given them the impression it is a right of theirs to have special status, privileges, and consideration that other Kiwis don't have, so they feel the gov is removing something that they think is rightfully theirs, they have no understanding that it is not their rights being taken away, rather it is privileges being taken away, privileges they should never been given. That is why most of these radicals think there's a just cause, some of the leaders know the truth but don't care and keep filling the heads of others with nonsense for their own gain. All this to say, there will have to be blood spilled to finish this as they are ideologues, and nothing less will do it, it will be them who spill the first drop, and only then will they realize just how much they overreached,. They shade under the tree of the majority they seek to cut down.
@@jwatstom Dreams are free, Maori swore allegiance to the Crown, and made it sovereign, so it is in fact the other way around if the truth be known. AND that is exactly what Maori asked the crown for, sovereignty and the consequence of protection, because NZL had turned into the Hell Hole of the Pacific after the Maori started killing each other for 20 plus years in the musket wars, killing 20 000 of their own in a hell hole genocide. Only Maori have not upheld their part of the Treaty at all for the protection the crown gave them baring their arse to the Queen and not recognising sovereignty rests with the crown. The English are owed a huge apology from Maori for protecting them and making them the wealthiest people on earth in 1958, not to mention doubling their life expectancy, if the God honest truth be known cobber. Give a man a fish and he will not be hungry for a day, teach the man to fish and he will not be hungry ever. It is time the handouts and protection from the English Crown stopped, and Maori learned to pull their own weight in the world, or perhaps we will keep them weak by feeding them and making them dependent as they are now. Your call Maori. Your call. Have you got what it takes, or are you still struggling to invent the wheel, or the bow and arrow? Your call!
Maori leadership are the only ones breaching the Treaty, by rewriting it in favour of themselves, despite it's true goal of favouring all. I always find it interesting that certain types say the honor Maori and their mana then push a narrative that the chiefs of that time were dumb and fooled by the worldy euros, rather than agnologing the truth that they were not dumb and not fooled but rather made the taking over of nz by the crown a reality for their own benefit, something today's Maori still reap benefit. Talks of mis interpretation are none sense, there Was already a Maori dictionary in other country's by 1840, many spoke English and many euro spoke Maori, with many tribes. You an those like you should hop off your high horse and give the chiefs of old the mana they deserve for what they accomplised by giving up sovereignty. This who also claim that it is just whiteys opinion also know nothing about 1860 and the meeting to ratify the treaty by the chiefs, there own words speaking of the queen as sovereign over all other chiefs in nz. You lot have got away with not knowing anything for sometime now but the free ride is up, best you educate yourself on true documented history (by both sides) or continue to expose yourself as ignorant and not worthy of attention. @@jwatstom
@@louiscarnachan3608 Maori asked the Crown for protection from the Hell Hole in the Pacific that they created for themselves, and ceded sovereignty to the Crown to get that protection, otherwise the Crown would not have provided the protection Maori were looking for. It is the second oldest game in town "Sure we will protect you, but we will also then control you". The oldest game in town is Prostitution, the two are closely linked of course. That is the principal of the Treaty. Now Maori want to change that by twisting the meaning, saying they never ceded sovereignty at all, when clearly, in black and white, they did. The protection was given and still is given by The Crown. Hence the Crown made Maori the wealthiest people on earth only 120 years after the Treaty was signed, doubled their life expectancy, gave every Maori the right to own land, gave every Maori the right to vote for its leadership, regularly, stopped Maori slavery, stopped polygamy and so on - never before in all of human history has so much been achieved for a group of people than what was achieved for Maori by The Crown, let alone in such a short time frame. As a indication of thanks Maori are now trying to steal the Country back for themselves by breaking the Treaty whilst exclaiming Honor The Treaty = a cunning attempt at Projection, which is accusing you of doing to them what they are actually doing to you = Narcissism = mental illness. Research it. Consequently, and because Maori ceded sovereignty, it is the Crown that decides who can be here NOT Maori, but the Crown. Is that easier to understand...? If not may I suggest "Rambling On My Mind" by Eric Clapton on Just One Night Double Album, an excellent version that should be relief. Another product of The Crown.
Well articulated Shane...we can always rely on you to give a no nonsense and truthful depiction of really what is what ....sorting the chaff out from the wheat.. .
This treaty up roar was a well orchestrated plan by Tūheitia, Tuku and Te Pāti Māori. TPM never had the full backing of our people in the election and the results proved that and Luxon ruled them out with a coalition. So with Te Pāti Māori in opposition with no seat at the top table they knew if they used Seymours treaty principles bill as bait they'd be able to trigger and manipulate our people to go against the government and boost there party support while doing it, this is nothing but a divide and conquer strategy.
🌎🛡️⚔️ NZ first Minister Shane Jones sends clear message to Waikato Maori tribal King to remind him that he is not King of NewZealand.. Ex Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta is family .... Tuku the lobbyist need to stop lying and get real . Your people need homes , better health ,education and jobs ... . ⚔️🛡️ NZ first .
The Kīngitanga movement does not represent Māori, they’re just a joke, and the reason they are flaring up is because they know their government gravy train is over!
Who speaks Maori or te reo anywhere else in the world, America, China, Europe, middle East, what percentage speak outside of New Zealand,no way I will call departments in OUR official second language
All of Polynesia speak a dialect of the same language. Why speak on something you obviously know nothing about. Long story short you are completely wrong.
Tainui have in settlements, never accepted the apology from the government, this has allowed them to do subsequent claims... it needs to stop, no offer should proceed until the apology is accepted, between government and any non-indigenous tribe (there are none) in NZ. i personally think there should be zero claims and this treaty null 'n void as it’s the only one in existence I’m aware of that still exists after a fisty cuffs afterward… it should be torn up. Lets get on and get NZ moving, this is pure hindrence.
There are more Maoris here now than there were before colonialisation. Surely that is enough to keep the language alive if they can be bothered. They don't need us.
I've been to hui at various Marae, the Maori King is actually not a fan of Tuki Morgan. The Maori King actually advocates for new people to take Tuki's position at their next Tainui election.
Tainui taking the crown to court for breach of settlement that's fact. The hui was hosted by the king for all maaoridom to attend to sort out a path way for iwi hapu, he feed them that was it. We had over 4 workshops that everyone split into, talk together and info sharing. That was step one there are two more hui hosted by other iwi which are hosted every year. Tuku Morgan didn't call a hui tuheitia did for maaori if enybody cant respect maaori coming together then that's the problem. My moko are not going to help keep government going and there culture get run though the ground every election year I had enough.
4:38 I attended the Hui-a-motu, it wasn't for Tainui to get other iwi onto their side and endorse them. It was a gathering of ideas and positions, even opposing ideas and positions. Some said their main focus was on cleaning their own backyard first. Some even voiced their hatred for the gang culture that Māori have taken up. Some voiced their iwi or hapu's focus was to maintain their Te Reo, no mater who was in government. Don't assume it was only just a conglomerate of people who hate the government. Some even questioned why did it take this coalition to bring Māori together. I even think the Act Party should take credit for doing that.
@@cyberfish6849 Or we become Eastern Australia. Between the Asian/Indian invasion and the elite Maori scammers we will not survive being New Zealand. One will breed Kiwi's out and the other will try to kill us.
No, a republic movement will be corrupted by the academic class and activists who will seek to offialise cogovernence as the govt will employ ‘experts’. The country will be renamed to Aotearoa. Be VERY careful what you wish for…
Shane Jones salivating on a jelly tip ice-cream during the last election was like watching porn...he said he was going to get rid of the Red and the brown bits as well. The guy is full of it.
😂😂😂😂😂 more 2 come 😂😂😂😂😂 they have all broken the treaty government an maori by changing land deeds to suit selves Not one of them no anything about The treaty purposely
Tainui group holdings have enough money and assets to pull every poor Maori family out of poverty, they even have enough to set up their own Maori health authority if they wanted to. Te Pati are holding out their hands to the wrong fat cats
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When you consider the debt level we are in ,No one has any money ,except the 1% rs .The last Govt left us owing $147.5 billion while they virtue signalled us to near bankruptcy in 3 yrs . Astoundingly adding $10 billion debt during their last 3 months in office ..So much for crushing poverty . Now catastrophic failure is touted at resounding success by the faithful..
@@jwatstom I don't know Tainui's financial performance, but some tribes have been generating quite good profits, and it should especially be noted that the tribe entities only pay 17.5% income tax, compared with business tax rate of 28%. So they are advantaged, hence should not complain.
And Fletcher's have enough money to pull every pakeha family out of poverty 😂
@jwatstom They were held to account.They were sacked at the election.
@@jwatstom No complaint in what I said, just my understanding of the facts.
I am part Maori but don`t support the Maori King!Mr Jones is on the money and has them all worked out.
NZF gets better every day
Wouldn’t surprise me if National end up a junior party after the next election. Luxon is certainly conspicuous by his absence. And when he is here he is frightened to death of Māori activists. Thank goodness for New Zealand first.
Thank goodness he has a couple of pit bulls with the likes of Shane and Winston at his side as they definitely seem of stronger character @@delinquentinparadise
@@delinquentinparadiseDon't think you are right.. Luxton has been out of the country and before the Christchurch meeting he is off to try to talk to Tauinui. I think that is where Luxton's strengths lie... he gets very competent people that he has trust in and gives them the power to sort things in the area of their portfolios, and so we are hearing from Winston, Jones and today young Simeon Brown making a lot of sense ...it is the mark of a good manager and that is what the country has needed for a long time A GOOD MANAGER. It is only the likes of Ardern and Hipkins who felt their face had to be on everything and everything was a photo shoot pr session for them ... look at me, look at me! I remember listening to Judith Collins saying about Luxton, "if you have his trust and he knows your capabilities he lets you get on with the job and that is greatly appreciated". Nothing worst than you doing all the hard yards then your boss takes the credit and gets the limelight
Very true @@valeriehughes1008... In less words, Luxon is a Macro Manager, while Labour are full of Micro managers due to the inability to actually manage anything.
NZ is a democracy, not based in tribal feudalism! The Maori tribes DON'T get to dictate what the current Govt is allowed to do on policy democratically taken to the people of NZ. They DON'T have veto rights!!! I would add that Australians also REJECTED The Voice, which attempted the same circumventing of democracy. As someone else already pointed out, this racialisation of a country was done in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. It ended in rampant racially driven violence and starvation.
But look at us currently…We are not a democracy…
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Maori have a treaty which Australia sadly doesn't. Thats a contract between the crown and them. Voting this or that in New Zealand is irrelevant.
@@roga8681okay numpty. What democracy has seperate electoral roles and council representation based on race? So no, we are not a democracy. 🤷 You must be a head in the sand wokester…
Shane Jones dear leader,Winston Jong un aka te pati pee ters
Shane Jones talks a lot of common sense and isn't scared to be critical of "protected groups". Good to see!
Not surprised to know that Tuku Morgan behind this.
Tainui is only one tribe out of many.
There are some Iwi's that don't believe in the kingdom of Tainui.
They are not superior to any other.
Do you know anything about the kiingitanga? It's not just tainui. Do some research
What a breath of fresh air the new coalition and NZ First are proving to be.
The treaty was signed by my people too the British! We need to get rid of it. It wasnt designed to be held at ransom by some moari people thinking its all about them! Time to move with the times and unite as 1 people New Zealanders
Your comment is only the second personal one I have seen in a very long time that actually states my ancestors signed the treaty as well, good on you. Just goes to show the manipulation that has been going on for many years to make us think and feel ....it is all about them. Time to put the document in it's place in history and move on.
1000% ARGREED!! Obsolete the treaty, unelected king and all the other toxic propaganda that follows it. Unite as one people, one people of mix cultures and religions, etc
I have been bleating on and getting Maori bashed me for it and have said just as you have said so well Joseph... the treaty was signed by my early British ancestors too.. and it was designed to unite all our citizens as one equal people...and to some Maori tribes the "equal" to all other Maori was not accepted well as they deemed themselves more superior.. the "all peoples equal" was greatly appreciated by many of the smaller tribes. The majority of Maori do not go along with all the current nonsense so now is the time for them to speak out - extremist ism will not bode well in the end for Maori.
@@jwatstom without us here , you'd be extinct ..... you're welcome.
@@jwatstom you do realize the whole Maori race could have been wiped out if the first colonizers had the mindset of Maori.
Pleased to hear NZF understanding the mission creep that is the modern treaty industry. Don't let it happen NZF, don't let it happen, or we will be more like Rhodesia.
Rhodesia? Wtf!
@@panimarsh9910 You don't know what happened in Rhodesia do you.
Rhodesia's infrastructure and everything in it was built by cringe squint dare i say it ....c o l o n i s e r s...ouch there i said it.!!!! it was built by them into a great country for everyone. Then a wonderful indigenuos Bishop Mugabe rigged the electoral system had a chance to steal the land back, and all it's wealth , changed the name to Zimbabwe to cleanse the land of the colonisers, killed and plundered white 4th generation farmers, caused chaos and rioting and looting. Driving them off their farms and businesses, some survivors with nothing but the shirt on their back and what few rand they could hide in shoes. Soon there were no taxpayers or employers left to support or maintain basic utilities and services. The coffers were looted and distributed among Mugabe's family and some supporters were bribed. Inflation skyrocketed, food was almost non existent because the white farmers had left. Now jobless farm workers ate breeding stock and seed so no future growth or planting work was done...soon there was no food. crime soared, anarchy ruled, rapes burglaries, murders were commonplace, destruction of street lights for copper cables and other braindead thefts destroyed coloniser's infrastructure, no wages to pay govt. security, police, health workers, educators etc. etc. Zimbabwe fell into 3rd world status as one of the worst places on the planet to live. Sound familiar???? yes the warning signs are there.@@panimarsh9910
S.A. more like it
S.A. Silly Aotearoa????@@toycollector10
Tainui King and tuku are angry cause Nanaia got the arse from the government. No more puppet for their agenda.
Keep up the good work, NZF.
Hooray!!!!!!
Nahhh Nanaia is 1 person Tainui on the other hand reps the Tainui Waka in Whakapapa not hearsay as for KING pakeha word
tuku is just another Activist who don't like White people
and one of nanaias last comments was when she was asked "would you join te maori pati"no i wont race based politics dont work full stop" now that is a very hefty observation from maori elite.and a clear warning to john tamiheres rabble.
You say the King and Tuku, well its Tuku who is pulling the Maori Kings strings. Tuku Formerly known as Capt'n Underpants, is the most dangerous man in NZ at the present time. Who will rid us of this man?
He is right We voted to end this 💩 thank god they got back in He gives me hope , something I hadn’t had for 6 long years Yay Mr Jones
Absolutely right this Maori bullshit has to come to an end.
Yeah 'one law for all' fell at the first hurdle@@jwatstom
NZ First/Labour 3 years. Then the ball started again 3 years of Labour.
Why do you say six years? NZ First were part of government 2017-2020. There were two governments NZ First/Labour and the Labour. Do just follow the narrative that is promoted.
So Shane jones brought in the govt that destroyed your hope, then Shane Jone brought in the govt that restored it? Short memory eh Trish!
Shane you speak so well to the issues,you make me feel so proud of my vote for NZFirst ,it gives me hope for New Zealand and our Children’s Future.
As long as Maori pick up the bill for all this stuff, including the never ending court cases, more power to their elbow. It's when their activities are funded by the majority mandate they kick against, I become unhappy.
If Maori lose the court cases, then absolutely they should have to foot the bill - as this is the usual process. If they win, then unfortunately to some the side that loses will have to pay.
@giovannisheh2270 I agree, as long as these are cases bought in the courts of law we all have to use. If they are outside the mainstream and exclusive, I don't agree that the general tax payer should be liable.
Of course Maori are paying for it. Ppfftt
Thank God for rational people like Shane Jones a pleasure to listen to.
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The thing I want gone is the tax payers paying for Maoris perceived issues when it involves lawyers, everyone else has to fund their own.
What makes you think taxpayers are paying for this.Maori are worth 70 billion dollars. Maori are paying for it themselves.
I would like the amount of money that has been spent on Maori only initiatives, in the last 10 years published for all to see as I have Maori friends who want to see where all those millions and millions of dollars have gone as they have not seen any and they are not happy about it. Who and where did it all go to?
White lawyers and politicians obviously like you said Maori have never seen a cent don't know any who have ever in the fifty years of being a Maori on this earth yet to meet a solitary one.
Because nobody really cares about this weekend to be honest let's have a vote on this and our tax payers money being spent on this weekend rubbish
Its not coming out of tax payers money ......did you say that about that stupid flag vote the gov had wasting $56 million? That could of gone to all of our childrens schools or something useful for this country
Hi nobody. What makes you think tax payers are paying for it
What an articulate and logical speaker Shane Jones is!
Kūpapa Shane, Winston, and Seymour!
Shane Jones is smarter than I previously thought
such a lovely chap
He is a bit of a blowhard but I still enjoy listening to him. He is making a lot of sense lately.
He says or suggests the coalition will not listen to peoples views. They just follow a coalition agreement. 90 % of people did vote for NZ First or ACT.
Does Tuku have his hand out again? Must be for $500 underpants now.
Only fm Skotties In Parnell
How much for underpants with a mongrel maori skid mark? Even silk underpants?
The maori king does not represent all maori. He represents tanui. I'm ngapuhi and I don't recognize the maori king at all.
I am also Ngapuhi/ Terarawa / but also Tainui/maniapoto . My 3x great grandfather married one of Tawhiaos daughters to cement a peace attempt between the two groups . Both having signed the treaty in 1840 to get the protection of the Queen . So,in short,Ngapuhi need to pay close attention to what the Tainui etc are up to ,because it may not be good for the average person
Same here! The Maori king has about as much legitimacy to me as Maori Santa does.
@@Mercmad can you expand on that a bit more? I'm not following what you mean. Are you suggesting ngapuhi should be beholden to tainui?
Does he want his undies out in public ? Cos if the tainui maoris wanna enter into national, other political parties are duty bound to expose the skid marks
@@MercmadVery astute observation... extremism will not bode well for average or grass roots Maori.
The election results were very clear. By the people for the people means what it says
I remember when there was the argument that some Maori didn't want the Maori language used in the main stream. Cause they had to live up to the high mana of Maori. A clear path has to be made on how change will be made to suit all NZ if change is to happen. It's funny how they are fighting the up hill battle in theses times..... When in the old days the Pa's were built on hills, Shane Jones said it be careful what you ask for
Old Under pants tuki Morgan aye
Needs to be remembered that all the Iwi groups operate their various businesses and commercial property assets under the umbrella of charities, meaning they pay no tax.
I've read that the tribal entities pay 17.5% income tax, whereas business tax is 28%, so they've got a race based privilege. Ok for a while but it should revert to 28%.
most if not all are using charity status to pay no tax@@rod-contracts1616
Tookies, undies still fresh in my mind, can't trust him, a gathering of Maori Activists, plan for disruption, good thing Shane's got a handle on it.
Thank you Shane, we are all listening. Go NZFirst❤
THESE SO CALLED MAORI ARE ACTUALLY MAORI EUROPEAN OR I SHOULD SAY EUROPEAN MAORI.........................just to put things in its right perspective
Would be nice if tainui would spread there wealth down to help there own people
They do
I really Like New Zealand First!!
Yes everyone please Party Vote NZ First in 2926
Most of us do. And if they didn't before well there now starting to see that they actually do
NZs entire population is smaller than most international cities. Yet we have small groups of both middleclass white liberals and Māori trying to divide us into warring racist factions. All these small noisy groups noticeably have their hands out for lots of that capitalist generated cash. I thought skin colour, gender or sexual orientation wasn't meant to be a determination of intelligence or success but it sure scores highly on the perceived victimhood scoreboard.
Lots of litigation $$$ for politically exposed lawyers & elite, in other countries, these types go to jail or have endless tax audits for AML issues.
Absolutely disgusting behavior from maori and the maori party
New Zealand is a tiny country with a small number of Maori as part of the population. However politics levels out their desires in favour of the majority of people vote for.
@@pgreen8531 No. You can't generalize the term Māori like that. there are plenty of people who are both Māori and New Zealanders.
@@pgreen8531 Yea, because this is our country. We were here first.
There's no such thing as a Maori King because the tribes of this land were never united.
Maori have to remember they are barely 11% of the population which they say will push for the continual extensive use of Te Reo .... what they have to realise is that the majority of our 5 million citizens of NZ have voted overwhelming for change and are prepared to push back on Maori to see that this does not happen. We demand our democracy and demand to be one equal people with equal rights. The country cannot afford to indulge the activist gravy trains of Maori any longer. Te Reo has cost the country many billions of dollars that could have well been used for the betterment OF ALL OUR SERVICES for all our people...e.g. up grading and sorting out hospitals, improving medical facilities, education facilities... right across the board to improving the road networks to get the country moving again - So much revenue has been swallowed up by the over indulgence of Te Reo which is only relevant to such a tiny percentage of the country....and now we have to have a government which governs for all citizens of NZ and not just the tiny, bullying and vicious, activist groups. Good to hear you Shane... well spoken!
Fantastic post
@@stephenwride5695 pretty spot on this is what a vast number of people voted for, then labour say we dont know why we lost the election , cause they know
agree totally 100 percent !!! well said !!
woke wannanutha handout crap.....your so -called guests have done more for this country than you will ever do. why keep changing the articles of the treaty and reinventing it? @@jwatstom
Good on you Shane I hope your government can sort out this nonsense and huge waste of money you may need more than three years, stay honest and true and I'm sure you will get another term.
Divisive, A vocal minority trying to dictate to the majority.
If tainui wanna enter into national politics they need to to make sure their undies have no skid marks cos other political parties will be duty bound to expose them at a national level
The only good will be the lawyers making money on esoteric legal theory .
Great interview, Shane Jones gets better and better, great combination of soft touch and hard reality underneath.
Good to hear this from Shane. Cheers Sean.
Princess Te Puea helped our family In the Tararua back in the day, not this new lot at Tainui. Shane Jones is a breath of fresh air for maori.
The Te Reo permeating all the Supersmash cricket matches is really irritating
I haven't seen any Te Reo, just badly spelt pidgin English.
@@tonynicholson3328I know what you mean. It's still very annoying Modifying sport like that. How many Maori play cricket again? Oh that's right, stuff all.
@@geoffstokes Yep it could be construed as cultural misappropriation ...
They go on about protecting their language, it's only in modern times they've had one universal language, and before the English arrived there was no written language, no alphabet to use,no te reo made up of English letters, so cheers to the white man for bringing your language to life!!
Te Reo has most of its roots in English
I use to advocate for Tino Rangatiratanga many years ago, an old school 'radical' you could say. Thanks to ACT/NZF/National I'm now back in the game! Thanks guys for opening up Pandora's box, just the wakeup call many of us needed!
Who is paying for this l hope not the New Zealand Public or government
Of course they are
Why didn't you say Tookalotofmoney is the hand holding the strings, puppet-master?
Hahaha... the name took me by surprise and laughter came up from my belly! He's a well known hand-in-pocket, help himself kinda man is tooku!
Hahaha... the name took me by surprise and laughter came up from my belly! He's a well known hand-in-pocket, help himself kinda man is tooku!
Well said shane, good show sean
This has been coming for 40 years and it's the first time they've been seriously confronted. Stay staunch Shane!
Well said Shane 🇳🇿.. you tell it as it is. Its all attention seeking and having a tantrum because the spoilt child of the nation is not getting its own way 😊..
nothing has changed , modernity and all its progress goes straight out the door for ancient Maori utu. which i have no problem with ....until you bring politics into it. Politics is for ALL New Zealanders , it is above race or creed Indigenous or immigrant Religion or cult. This is the very reason why WE changed the Government. it is OUR right and duty to vote, and abide by the will of the majority when votes are counted. Maori take your utu off the floor of Government and resolve it ( or not ) on your Marae.
Next election everyone needs to Party Vote NZ First
'Good' to listen to an informed and knowledgeable speaker about his 'subject'... Well spoken Shane !
It has taken a while for me to finally appreciate where Shane Jones is coming from. Keep up the great work.
Kingitanga going 5 finger discount shopping this weekend at Scottie's... Tuku's silk underpants have skiddies.... need some more coloniser's threads...... Spent the last lot back for more.
His skiddies came from the gravy train coming to an abrupt halt!
@@Colin_Izer1111good one!!
You remember old UNDER PANTS Morgan to haha him Tamahere and Willie Wonker all * mates* Tared with the same brush
he he he he handles a very long endowment policy.....there's just no end to the prick ! @@briansatchell2319
Well spoken Shane Jones and NZ First, Happy New Year. Agree with your sentiment, yes, upholding democracy and respecting the outcome of the election is paramount to running NZ. Activists creating division can't come between voters and the successful political parties. Discussions and debates yes, however "majority" decided which policies would be in place.
Maori have their own TV channels and radio stations that non Te Reo speakers cannot understand so why do they want the bloody news and programs on the general english TV and radio to be smattered with the Reo, shut up moaning listen to your own stations
Spoken in true English babble! Muppet!
A problem we have in ending all this bs is all the catering that has been done towards Maori has given them the impression it is a right of theirs to have special status, privileges, and consideration that other Kiwis don't have, so they feel the gov is removing something that they think is rightfully theirs, they have no understanding that it is not their rights being taken away, rather it is privileges being taken away, privileges they should never been given. That is why most of these radicals think there's a just cause, some of the leaders know the truth but don't care and keep filling the heads of others with nonsense for their own gain. All this to say, there will have to be blood spilled to finish this as they are ideologues, and nothing less will do it, it will be them who spill the first drop, and only then will they realize just how much they overreached,. They shade under the tree of the majority they seek to cut down.
Yes how many Maori achieve
@@jwatstom Dreams are free, Maori swore allegiance to the Crown, and made it sovereign, so it is in fact the other way around if the truth be known. AND that is exactly what Maori asked the crown for, sovereignty and the consequence of protection, because NZL had turned into the Hell Hole of the Pacific after the Maori started killing each other for 20 plus years in the musket wars, killing 20 000 of their own in a hell hole genocide. Only Maori have not upheld their part of the Treaty at all for the protection the crown gave them baring their arse to the Queen and not recognising sovereignty rests with the crown. The English are owed a huge apology from Maori for protecting them and making them the wealthiest people on earth in 1958, not to mention doubling their life expectancy, if the God honest truth be known cobber.
Give a man a fish and he will not be hungry for a day, teach the man to fish and he will not be hungry ever. It is time the handouts and protection from the English Crown stopped, and Maori learned to pull their own weight in the world, or perhaps we will keep them weak by feeding them and making them dependent as they are now. Your call Maori. Your call. Have you got what it takes, or are you still struggling to invent the wheel, or the bow and arrow? Your call!
Maori leadership are the only ones breaching the Treaty, by rewriting it in favour of themselves, despite it's true goal of favouring all. I always find it interesting that certain types say the honor Maori and their mana then push a narrative that the chiefs of that time were dumb and fooled by the worldy euros, rather than agnologing the truth that they were not dumb and not fooled but rather made the taking over of nz by the crown a reality for their own benefit, something today's Maori still reap benefit. Talks of mis interpretation are none sense, there Was already a Maori dictionary in other country's by 1840, many spoke English and many euro spoke Maori, with many tribes. You an those like you should hop off your high horse and give the chiefs of old the mana they deserve for what they accomplised by giving up sovereignty. This who also claim that it is just whiteys opinion also know nothing about 1860 and the meeting to ratify the treaty by the chiefs, there own words speaking of the queen as sovereign over all other chiefs in nz. You lot have got away with not knowing anything for sometime now but the free ride is up, best you educate yourself on true documented history (by both sides) or continue to expose yourself as ignorant and not worthy of attention. @@jwatstom
@@paulmeersa7162try make one point because you’re not making sense. It’s just rambling.
@@louiscarnachan3608 Maori asked the Crown for protection from the Hell Hole in the Pacific that they created for themselves, and ceded sovereignty to the Crown to get that protection, otherwise the Crown would not have provided the protection Maori were looking for. It is the second oldest game in town "Sure we will protect you, but we will also then control you". The oldest game in town is Prostitution, the two are closely linked of course. That is the principal of the Treaty. Now Maori want to change that by twisting the meaning, saying they never ceded sovereignty at all, when clearly, in black and white, they did. The protection was given and still is given by The Crown. Hence the Crown made Maori the wealthiest people on earth only 120 years after the Treaty was signed, doubled their life expectancy, gave every Maori the right to own land, gave every Maori the right to vote for its leadership, regularly, stopped Maori slavery, stopped polygamy and so on - never before in all of human history has so much been achieved for a group of people than what was achieved for Maori by The Crown, let alone in such a short time frame. As a indication of thanks Maori are now trying to steal the Country back for themselves by breaking the Treaty whilst exclaiming Honor The Treaty = a cunning attempt at Projection, which is accusing you of doing to them what they are actually doing to you = Narcissism = mental illness. Research it. Consequently, and because Maori ceded sovereignty, it is the Crown that decides who can be here NOT Maori, but the Crown. Is that easier to understand...?
If not may I suggest "Rambling On My Mind" by Eric Clapton on Just One Night Double Album, an excellent version that should be relief. Another product of The Crown.
Well explained Shane Jones.
Well articulated Shane...we can always rely on you to give a no nonsense and truthful depiction of really what is what ....sorting the chaff out from the wheat..
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This treaty up roar was a well orchestrated plan by Tūheitia, Tuku and Te Pāti Māori. TPM never had the full backing of our people in the election and the results proved that and Luxon ruled them out with a coalition. So with Te Pāti Māori in opposition with no seat at the top table they knew if they used Seymours treaty principles bill as bait they'd be able to trigger and manipulate our people to go against the government and boost there party support while doing it, this is nothing but a divide and conquer strategy.
Kingitanga cant even run his own whanau
Give them an inch and they will take a whakamile which is a measurement that has no delimitation in science
Remember yes Remember the Minority Doesn't Rules 😊
Shane the Kūpapa!
🌎🛡️⚔️ NZ first Minister Shane Jones sends clear message to Waikato Maori tribal King to remind him that he is not King of NewZealand.. Ex Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta is family .... Tuku the lobbyist need to stop lying and get real . Your people need homes , better health ,education and jobs ... . ⚔️🛡️ NZ first .
they also need to stop murdering their children (with complete impunity) and take responsible parenting seriously. This is the elephant in the room.
Like shane said. Big hui moan session. He said these iwis need to get on board. The coalition wants best for all kiwis. Tuku is the trouble maker.
The Kīngitanga movement does not represent Māori, they’re just a joke, and the reason they are flaring up is because they know their government gravy train is over!
Exactly.....welcome to the real world
@@NA-sj9jy Exactly ...well said 👍
The Maori are not indigenous, they are Chinese.
Top man Mr Jones.👍👍
Tuki Morgan ? the underpants from Skotties or just the taxpayers of NZ?
looks like every iwi turned up
not just tainui
Power, power, power. Its all about power
Money, money, money all the way.
@@vumba1331 that too
Power, power, power for some usually means Poorer, poorer poorer for the rest.
And always follow the money
The Maori King represents who? Is there a consensus to represent all Maori opinion?
Cuzzie on cuzzie!! 🤷♂️
Who speaks Maori or te reo anywhere else in the world, America, China, Europe, middle East, what percentage speak outside of New Zealand,no way I will call departments in OUR official second language
All of Polynesia speak a dialect of the same language. Why speak on something you obviously know nothing about. Long story short you are completely wrong.
90% of people did not vote for N Z First.
nothing IN THE TREATY MAORI CAN USE.
S Jones should be speaking about democracy ideas. Which means these people have the right to meet and express their views.
Make sure who’s paying,I would like to know.
Us tax payers are paying
How can there be Indigenous rights when Maori are NOT Indigenous?
Tainui have in settlements, never accepted the apology from the government, this has allowed them to do subsequent claims... it needs to stop, no offer should proceed until the apology is accepted, between government and any non-indigenous tribe (there are none) in NZ. i personally think there should be zero claims and this treaty null 'n void as it’s the only one in existence I’m aware of that still exists after a fisty cuffs afterward… it should be torn up. Lets get on and get NZ moving, this is pure hindrence.
This treaty is causing a lot of problems with all in new Zealand
Not honoring the treaty caused all these problems.
The treaty should be removed, people are using it for in the wrong manner
There are more Maoris here now than there were before colonialisation. Surely that is enough to keep the language alive if they can be bothered. They don't need us.
I've been to hui at various Marae, the Maori King is actually not a fan of Tuki Morgan. The Maori King actually advocates for new people to take Tuki's position at their next Tainui election.
Tuku Morgan ... the king of underpants ... what a clown 🤡
Tainui taking the crown to court for breach of settlement that's fact. The hui was hosted by the king for all maaoridom to attend to sort out a path way for iwi hapu, he feed them that was it. We had over 4 workshops that everyone split into, talk together and info sharing. That was step one there are two more hui hosted by other iwi which are hosted every year. Tuku Morgan didn't call a hui tuheitia did for maaori if enybody cant respect maaori coming together then that's the problem. My moko are not going to help keep government going and there culture get run though the ground every election year I had enough.
Sorry to say but Maori TV did show on TV before English yesterday on tv1 and I think we should speak English first but still respect Maori
4:38 I attended the Hui-a-motu, it wasn't for Tainui to get other iwi onto their side and endorse them. It was a gathering of ideas and positions, even opposing ideas and positions.
Some said their main focus was on cleaning their own backyard first. Some even voiced their hatred for the gang culture that Māori have taken up. Some voiced their iwi or hapu's focus was to maintain their Te Reo, no mater who was in government. Don't assume it was only just a conglomerate of people who hate the government. Some even questioned why did it take this coalition to bring Māori together.
I even think the Act Party should take credit for doing that.
Bill Gates is suggesting that a wealth tax should be introduced.
This should be on the 6 oclock news, yeah right
The Māori party needs to stop this b/s , the train has left the station,the money is stopping time to get a job for all the no hoper’s
Who funds the legal challenge, is there public funding?
Amen
Time for NZ to be a republic.
Yes absolutely...I reckon its the way things will eventually go.
@@cyberfish6849 Or we become Eastern Australia. Between the Asian/Indian invasion and the elite Maori scammers we will not survive being New Zealand. One will breed Kiwi's out and the other will try to kill us.
No, a republic movement will be corrupted by the academic class and activists who will seek to offialise cogovernence as the govt will employ ‘experts’. The country will be renamed to Aotearoa. Be VERY careful what you wish for…
Tainui is acting on behalf of the U.N
Pushing indigenous peoples bill
Bingo!!!..... the only comment so far that sings it out the obvious....people are still sleeping....they'll wake up soon enough...😊
there should not be a maori king.
😂but there is.😂
He is a retired truck driver.
Never was until the Signing !! Renagades !!
Unless we can have a Pakeha Queen in NZ it should be considered treason, it has become more than child's play as one Treaty Chief described Kingitanga
Who pays/paid for this hui??
Sh.t he's good..I voted for NZ first and him an it's real early days yet he gets better already!
WELL, WE KNOW WHO WON'T BE IN PARLIMENT NEXT ELECTION!! RUSSEL CAN'T ELECT HIM EVERY YEAR A YOUNG PERSON WILL BOWEL HIM 18/01/24 HEARD IT HERE!!
I wish Plunket would shut up and let his guests finish.
Shane Jones salivating on a jelly tip ice-cream during the last election was like watching porn...he said he was going to get rid of the Red and the brown bits as well. The guy is full of it.
😂😂😂😂😂 more 2 come 😂😂😂😂😂 they have all broken the treaty government an maori by changing land deeds to suit selves
Not one of them no anything about
The treaty purposely
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