I learn more watching this guy than any of the other channels. May play has improved a lot since I've been watching him. His descriptions of his tactics are very good and he plays very calmly.
7.7 is fine because it sometimes gets 6.7 downtiers, 8.3 is fine because it gets 7.3 downtiers and its strong enough to fight 8.7, 8.0 neither gets downtiers nor is it strong enough to compete against 8.7 every match. This applies to most nations and makes many vehicles torture to spade
For the people who dont know Jon i have to tell you he s an awesome player! yes you see the best video selection but his average gameplay is not to far! i watched his live stream last sunday and i imediately subscibed! awesome gameplay and friendly environment! keep it up Jon!
8.0 MBTs are mostly rough to play. They get uptiered 9 out of 10 times and face vehicles with LRF, stablizer, APFSDS while hardly having 1 of it. T-54 with trash gun handling and M48 with 90mm will be the worst
Just when I think I know a map, you show me something new. Also, I’ve got to learn your “target discipline”. Knowing who to shoot first in a target rich environment.
Every streamer/YT player who talks Leo 1 says to use the APDS. I always take the HEATFS, so I'm glad to see you also preferring the round in favor of the APDS.
The Leopard I being a tough tank to play is particularly bad since it actually hurts your team a lot. The tank doesn't inspire confidence at all, and many try to play it way too carefully, which means that most Leopard I players don't do much in matches. I usually do okay with this tank, getting 3 kills before I die most of the time, but I still always loose the battles since my teammates in Leopard I, Germany's only "MBT" at 8.0, don't do much because they try to survive and get some kills without dying immediatly. The matchmaker for this is also absolutely terrible, making the problem even more pronounced, this tank falls apart when it comes across a horde of up armored and stabilized T-55s which happens very very often.
@@Rimmless I agree with you, but as stated in my comment, my team usually doesn't. It is posibble to do well in it and at the same time loose most matches you play with it because Germany at 8.0 does suffer especially since you have to deal with teams that aren't as good as you in challenging German vehicles. I too got my second ever nuke in this tank, it is also my favorite MBT in this game and I like to pair it with the M48A2 G A2 because 8.3 has a bit better match making.
Oh man the flashbacks when you mentioned the old cost of HEAT haha, probably a good reason I forgot that with how many of those shells I fired back in the day.
I do agree the leopard one is that a severe disadvantage because it doesn’t get a stabiliser and it doesn’t get dark rounds and everything you face has darts
everyone always said to use APDS on the Leo 1 but I always picked HEAT-FS. It feels like it does more damage, it can overpressure things and you aren't that badly punished for shots at thick plates. The only downside is that it blows up on bushes
I adore this tank. 8.0 is balanced spot for this. I even putted talisman on this beast. Hoơever, this br almost exclusively seeing top tier every match, so it can be outpaced by stab tank and tank with great mobility.
Jon is right, I played yesterday 9.0 Japan and I got a Incredible amount of Downtiers, I barely get 10.0 matches, like one of 10 games, never saw such stuff in my WT carrer 😮
Something I’ve learned after playing Germany long enough is Germany makes beautiful ambushing tanks… if it’s ww2 I have endless tips 😂 and if Leo I have a few tips especially the panzer battalion
Is it worth playing Germany at that br tho? I'd imagine it's kinda rough since there's a lot of premium spam there and the fact you'll face Russia a lot.
These CCs love shitting on German mains, but looking at this specific video, how the fuck were they supposed to compete with t55s? I mean, there is a chance, but if you're not playing this game 5 hours a day, you wont be able to match the abilities of other players.
I mean same can be said the other way around. Germans have the tam2 sitting at the same BR. Witch is incredibly strong yet they don't perform well at all with it.
The Leo1 is at BR 8.0. Its line up includes the DF105 and Marder1A3. These tanks have a high skill requirement, and sees uptiers regularly. On the other side of the battle, you have fully stabilized dart shooters that can bounce shots regularly. It's really not fair.
![1 MATCH IN EVERY [SU] IN WAR THUNDER (reserve to toptier)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rkJ0QF0ze5E/mqdefault.jpg)
Germany suffers fr fr 😥
fr on god
fr, 8.0 germsny is so painfull
I found it suffers Bec of how bad German mains are
I learn more watching this guy than any of the other channels. May play has improved a lot since I've been watching him. His descriptions of his tactics are very good and he plays very calmly.
Germany has the best tanks but the worst players also fuck gaijin for balancing with statistics and not capabilities.
7.7 is fine because it sometimes gets 6.7 downtiers, 8.3 is fine because it gets 7.3 downtiers and its strong enough to fight 8.7, 8.0 neither gets downtiers nor is it strong enough to compete against 8.7 every match. This applies to most nations and makes many vehicles torture to spade
16:03 "My stats are not great in that thing"
they aren’t
@@-theislander-5888this guy lol
For the people who dont know Jon i have to tell you he s an awesome player! yes you see the best video selection but his average gameplay is not to far! i watched his live stream last sunday and i imediately subscibed! awesome gameplay and friendly environment! keep it up Jon!
8.0 MBTs are mostly rough to play. They get uptiered 9 out of 10 times and face vehicles with LRF, stablizer, APFSDS while hardly having 1 of it.
T-54 with trash gun handling and M48 with 90mm will be the worst
7.0 mf fighting sweden and dies to a VIDAR 2 minutes into the game from 1.6km away
Can confirm 7.7-8.0 t54 is the worst in up tiers absolutely diabolical
8.3 on the otherhand is mostly downtiers. Try bulding a lineup at that br
Just when I think I know a map, you show me something new. Also, I’ve got to learn your “target discipline”. Knowing who to shoot first in a target rich environment.
Great 1st game man that team owes you a beer.
Every streamer/YT player who talks Leo 1 says to use the APDS. I always take the HEATFS, so I'm glad to see you also preferring the round in favor of the APDS.
I've gotten so much better at the game just by emulating your methods and tactics, thanks for all the content Jon!
The Leopard I being a tough tank to play is particularly bad since it actually hurts your team a lot. The tank doesn't inspire confidence at all, and many try to play it way too carefully, which means that most Leopard I players don't do much in matches. I usually do okay with this tank, getting 3 kills before I die most of the time, but I still always loose the battles since my teammates in Leopard I, Germany's only "MBT" at 8.0, don't do much because they try to survive and get some kills without dying immediatly. The matchmaker for this is also absolutely terrible, making the problem even more pronounced, this tank falls apart when it comes across a horde of up armored and stabilized T-55s which happens very very often.
It’s a great tank what u mean, my first nuke was in it
@@Rimmless I agree with you, but as stated in my comment, my team usually doesn't. It is posibble to do well in it and at the same time loose most matches you play with it because Germany at 8.0 does suffer especially since you have to deal with teams that aren't as good as you in challenging German vehicles. I too got my second ever nuke in this tank, it is also my favorite MBT in this game and I like to pair it with the M48A2 G A2 because 8.3 has a bit better match making.
Oh man the flashbacks when you mentioned the old cost of HEAT haha, probably a good reason I forgot that with how many of those shells I fired back in the day.
I remember losing up to 30k SL after an L. Good times 💀
I do agree the leopard one is that a severe disadvantage because it doesn’t get a stabiliser and it doesn’t get dark rounds and everything you face has darts
everyone always said to use APDS on the Leo 1 but I always picked HEAT-FS. It feels like it does more damage, it can overpressure things and you aren't that badly punished for shots at thick plates. The only downside is that it blows up on bushes
Echo de menos aquellos dias en los que una recamara o cañon no podian disparar en naranja. Que tiempos
I adore this tank. 8.0 is balanced spot for this. I even putted talisman on this beast. Hoơever, this br almost exclusively seeing top tier every match, so it can be outpaced by stab tank and tank with great mobility.
When I played trough Italy at 8.0 recently I have never gotten a down tier, not even a slight down tier.
Jon is right, I played yesterday 9.0 Japan and I got a Incredible amount of Downtiers, I barely get 10.0 matches, like one of 10 games, never saw such stuff in my WT carrer 😮
Something I’ve learned after playing Germany long enough is Germany makes beautiful ambushing tanks… if it’s ww2 I have endless tips 😂 and if Leo I have a few tips especially the panzer battalion
Is it just met or have breeches been extra resilient lately? I’ve turned 7 or 8 people’s Bree he’s dark orange or red and they are still able to shoot
war thunder used feel quite different for sure! good times
HEATFS costing 1200 sliver per shot sound like some world of tank premium gold round balance kinda shit 💀
Buy premium account
Why the ZTZ59a is so good you get lrf and stabiliser. Nothing more satisfying than sniping helpless IS4Ms far away
The Leo 1 reminds me of the italian leo, the of40. could you do a vid on that? its my favourite vehicle in game lol
Germany only suffers post 6.7 and pre 8.0
gaijin should decompress 8.0 or move the leo 1 to 7.7
Bro has Level 150 Ace crew. oof!
How is it that the guy can fire even with red breach
Look how they've massacred my boy
Yay, thanks Jon
Day 52 of asking Jon to play the ZTZ59A
I ran into him before playing it, i was playing the 10rc and he got 10 kills in sinia in it
@@m-zn2io lol I was watching the steam 😂
TODAY IS THE DAY BROTHER
@@BPA_JonWT HELLL YEA LET'S GOOOOOOOO LOVE YOU MAN
Youre nice for coming back to an old video to reply to a comment
What a carry
It's time to compare with AMX-30... Only trash Heat. Sometimes made damage sometimes no....
Try M60 8.0 as well
Can you play VT1-2 next?
i always thought leo 1 gets stab, i was so confident about it 😭 hey, the more you know
8.7 amx-30's are unstabilized so it only gets worse 🥴
New video m1128 ?
do you think leo1 is better than italian OF-40?
its undeniably worse but not much worse
Do you think the T-55AM/AMD is overpowered compared to things of similar br's?
They're not really.
Commenting until Jon reaches 50K
Is it worth playing Germany at that br tho? I'd imagine it's kinda rough since there's a lot of premium spam there and the fact you'll face Russia a lot.
Its not. Tanks are good! But u have to much fresh accounts with just 1 tank. So the chance of lose is high
Day 3, strv103c please🎉
Jon play desert warrior
Day 21 of asking for the M48 super and compare to T72 and Leo 1a5
hi jon
Day 9 of asking jon to play the m46 and get a nuke with it
These CCs love shitting on German mains, but looking at this specific video, how the fuck were they supposed to compete with t55s? I mean, there is a chance, but if you're not playing this game 5 hours a day, you wont be able to match the abilities of other players.
I mean same can be said the other way around. Germans have the tam2 sitting at the same BR. Witch is incredibly strong yet they don't perform well at all with it.
The Leo1 is at BR 8.0. Its line up includes the DF105 and Marder1A3. These tanks have a high skill requirement, and sees uptiers regularly. On the other side of the battle, you have fully stabilized dart shooters that can bounce shots regularly. It's really not fair.
@@Steegampoota well so do the T54s and the rest of 8.0s. Like yes, they are skill dependent, but that applies to every vehicle that gets uptiered.
The leopard 1 is too dogshit to play at this point
Day 21 of asking jon to Play the Type 99
Day 16 of asking Jon to play the american m41a1
Day 6 of asking for the leopard 1a5no
damm im early
8.0 to 8.7 Rn is a shit show