Really thought we were left with ShillJoe & ShillUp by now and they finally dropped some serious reviews. ( granted I haven't watch them a lot recently )
@@codysellers4151 He is not a shill. He is far left tho, so you could expect him to defend woke games, but even he can admit that games like DA: V or Suicide Squad suck balls.
Towards the end of Joes video there’s such a funny part. The game spends so much time affirming Taash’s pronouns, and her transition to they/them. There’s even a long side quest to make sure people start calling her they/them. But at the end when/if she dies they call her a she 😂 It proves how performative the whole thing was. It’s like they forgot. The person who calls her a she is the person who did pushups! Hahaha. So in her memory, to show her respect, after her death they “dead name” her and pull a Barve 😂
I didn't play much of the game so i am wondering what happens if you don't do the quest to encourage her mental illness. Do they have two separate voice lines? Maybe the "she" at the end of the game was from a playthrough that rightfully ignored her teenage "i wanna be special" phase. Or does tash embrace her insanity regardless of player choice?
The problem is BioWare games have always been inclusive, there are always the hetero companions and the lgbt companions, the difference is the older games never shove it into your face. DA:Inquisition had a companion whose gayness is the reason why he had a strained relationship with his father and that one was written so much better than Taash.
Dude if you were an actual dragon age fan you would have checked out after origins, the only game worth anything in this series. 2 was a piece of shit because EA wanted to turn it into fantasy mass effect and make it a hack n slash with copy and pasted dungeons but thankfully that failed but the game was still dark fantasy and had decent ideas that could have been fixed with a sequel. Inquisition is even worse than 2 and all the DEI bullshit we see in veilguard has roots on full display in inquisition, Krem another trans character from inquisition is also annoying and forced (long story short Krem is a tomboy who wants to be a man but when asked if she would be given magic that would let her change completely she says no I don't want that magic anywhere near me, you aren't fucking trans then Krem you are a tomboy period) but it was but a mere sample of what we got with trash (in calling her that because she is trash) in veilguard.
@@delta2372Inquisition was fine from this perspective, and a good game IMO. They didn’t make sacrifices to make way for inclusion... If you have to reference a character as minor & obscure as Krem to rant about, you may be a bit lost in the anti-woke sauce
I like how the people in the subreddit is having a meltdown over Joe's 3/10. They start calling him "shill", "fence sitter", "transphobic", or whatever else they can think of because they didn't even bother to watch the vid because they know that "it's just repeating what everyone says" and is irrelevant.
Is it just me or do other people want to see these old great game companies just shut down so they don’t keep doing this shit? Angry Joe is 100% right , it fucks with your memory of previous games. Just close BioWare already, stop it. Let the ips die.
I'd give it a 8/10 , I find it hilarious how these right wing toxic gamers keep having to make excuses to hate this game " GUYS! I KNOW THE COMBAT LOOKS SUPER COOL AND THE VISUALS ARE STUNNING , BUT ITS SO BAD YALL. LIKE IVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 8 HOURS STRAIGHT AND ITS SO BAD. SOOO BAD YALL. "
@@SchwakaI think the majority of people who shat out reviews the day after release did this. I'm happy reviews of actual fans are coming out now, and they are positive. This is a great game of youre a fan of dragon age story.
Angry Joe is going to get angry when they add only three endings to the next mass effect game with the gay ending, the trans ending, and the nonbinary ending, all slightly different but with different shades of gay flags.
Thats why he's not a reviewer. You heard what he said, he doesn't care about the lore, the story, the old games, means continuity of the franchise. Of course his score is whack and makes no sense. By his measure, why even make another game in any franchise.
@@daktaklakpak5059 he went in there like 85% of potential players for the game would have started playing. Do you honestly think that the target audience for this game was people who are into dragon age, having played previous titles? The percentage of people who've played them, or were willing to invest time into the dragon age series thanks to the game's announcement is def a small amount compared to the new blood they could have reached. So why take it into account as a new player, if even the devs dont care?
Imagine if back when they made Skyrim, in the middle of a feast at Windhelm one of the characters stands up at the table. "UHHH... IS THIS ALE VEGAN? I CAN'T PROCESS SOME TYPES OF HOPS VERY WELL AND I GET TUMMY ACHES". Then, after people really don't like that, Bethesda writers act shocked like they can't figure out why people are saying it's immersion breaking. It's just bad, and it was made to be a political soapbox rather than a good RPG. The fact Joe gave it a 3/10 blows any argument of "grifting" out of the water.
Bad analogy unfortunately, since lorewise TES brand of Wood Elves are religiously forbidden from consuming any plant matter - even wearing cloth derived from processed plant fibres is haraam in their culture. They famously get high by smoking ground-up venomous insects in pipes made from hollowed-out bones.
Crying "grifter" is the same as all the -ists and -phobes the left uses. They all mean the same thing - "I can't argue or deny your point so I'm just going to smear you"
Angry Joe is basically a diehard dragon age fan and his review is probably what 90% of hardcore fans feel. Game is a 'okay' $10 sale casual game with a dialogue skipping mod.
Guarantee nexus mods bans all mods that actually improve the game because they're on board the agenda of forced dei, and ban everything like fixing the flags in Spider-Man. You'd have to find the mod somewhere else, and it WON'T be indexed in search engines, nor will modders care as much as fixing starfield. No, the only appropriate response is to NEVER buy the game even on sale. You're better off playing some fan made expansion in a different engine. If fans even still exist. This is exactly like how they ruined star wars. Modern content doesn't exist to the fans. You have to stop buying it, because it just funds more of it, and if they go under that's the price, and maybe a new studio will take over.
As a fan of Dragon age any higher than a 3/10 is bs, waited ten years for a new Dragon age and it's terrible in every conceivable way, gameplay, story, art, and dear god gender nonsense in a dark fantasy setting especially since it's focused on the one race where it makes the least amount of sense, also you can't really role play in anyway other than meak good pc boy. Dragon age was loved and then this game comes out and most likely killed the entire franchise so again a 3/10 is being nice, Dragon age was better when this game Didn't exist.
First, they DID reboot the entire DA lore. Every country that you played in until VG is destroyed, taken over by the blight. They're gone, nothing you did there matters anymore. As for Mass Effect, it's already destroyed. The ending of 3? Andromeda? The same execs who greenlit those choices are STILL at Bioware.
@@TheLurker1647 Andromeda could've been good. There were some cool ideas, like the focus on exploration and survival on a new frontier, but why was the Andromeda galaxy so much more boring than ours? The aliens sucked and the ancient technology that was literally everywhere felt like a lazy facade over a gimmicky game design.
With the click of a button, powerful, wealthy, influential people can invisibilize anyone they like. Especially if their target has fewer resources and support than they have.
The first one was not good at all when it came out. On a pure technical level - as in push button and action happens, Veilguard was better (it also had better performance and stability). I personally like the storytelling better in LotF than in Veilguard, but let's not ignore the good sides of games we don't like. To me Veilguard shows that BioWare has a lot of talented artists in their departments, except for their writers, who either was told to make a story "for all audiences" (the lowest common denominator) or actually wanted to tell the story we see. Constant repetition, the story being very much on the nose and in your face - bleh. Make a good story, leave subtle undertones there for the player to find and do sidequests about if they're interested (sure, try to tease the player into being interested). Not everything has to be Elden Ring levels of obscured storytelling, but you don't have to have people incessantly talking about "hint hint I have a loyalty mission you need to do now!" If they wanted to do a softer and more inclusive RPG-lite, why force it into the Dragon Age world?
He was absolutely gold in this review. I pretty much agree with him on the majority of it as well. Never seen so much retconning in a single game before. It's like half of inquisition didn't happen, the DLC's were completely ignored.
I think it's fair to take off extra points for destroying something that you loved. Like "Rings of Power" is 1/10. But if it wasn't based on "Lord of the Rings," it'd be a solid 3.
For Joe 5 is an average game, this is below that. Also Joe is rating the story with it, while Asmon said he skipped a lot of the story. I think you're right, don't use the name if you can't live up to it, but I don't know how much of a factor it played here. This game is below average or bad, so 3 or 4.
Even if it wasn't a series you loved I still think a 3 is deserved. A 6 should be a neutral game that you had some moderate amount of fun playing. It's a game that actively ruins your time and that deserves a 3.
@@Pltr03How isnt 6 a neutral? 5-7 is neutral/meh 8 is good 9 is near perfect and everything under is just the opposite, from meh to gradual increase of pain
@@Pltr03 Because 5 is average when you're grading on a scale of 1 to 10. 6 out of 10 is above average. This is how Joe has graded games for over a decade. It's also a much more logically coherent system than treating 7's as average like IGN or the education system does. Granted, the education system wants you to get the large majority of questions consistently correct, but IGN and game reviews don't get that excuse. 😅
Veilguard is worse than all its predecessors. The 3/10 score is more than far for the amount of damage Veilguard did to the Dragonage series as a whole, we literally waited 10 years for this, and it couldn't even improve on anything. I feel like Bioware stole my money and ran.
Development wise, it *was" going to be Fortnight, but Dragon Age before they scraped the project and started over... while reusing as many assets as possible... and without pretty much all of the key writers... headed by a sims designer... It sounds too absurd to be true, doesn't it?
They told you that when they tried to hide reviews and handpicked reviewers. They knew you wouldn't like it and wanted your money. I'm stunned people still decided to buy it. Can't think of any situation where they blatantly lied and tried to hide stuff and people would still buy the product from them voluntarily
@@jpteknomanI have a friend just like you. He's MAGA and watched all these reviews from right wing gamers and now he hates the franchise too without even have played it himself. I wish I could tell him he is a victim of propaganda, but it's useless to try. You can't convince someone who's being scammed, that they are being scammed.
Classic, I'm always got censored everytime I'm saying what should be in the News. You can't answer questions with right answers anymore. You had to lie or pretend to be clueless to let your comments exist in every platform.
Among is using 5 to 10 scale, as game journalists do. 7 is average, 8 is good. 6 is bad. 5 is dogshit, and I didn't see ign even rating any AAA as 5 or below ever.
I'm one of the fools that didn't believe Veilguard could be that bad and bought it. I've played maybe 10 hours, hate every character. I'm now replaying the Witcher 3.
Makes one wonder if he'll ever self-reflect enough to realize that he was part of the problem that led to this. Highly doubt it, but just maybe seeing his favorite game franchise butchered beyond recognition by HIS agenda might slap enough sense back into him to realize that this is exactly what he claimed to have wanted for years...but never truly did.
I’ll never forget that Angry Joe was pretty much in full support of Anita Sarkeesian back in 2013-14, Joe lambasted gamers and told everyone that ‘they’ will never take away hot and cool characters and power fantasies. While I’m glad Joe is now giving trash the ratings they deserve (Star Wars included) I have little respect for his takes as a whole.
@@lmno567 coming from someone who likes VG, it’s not a very fun fight. lol. Beforehand you fight two normal dragons at once, that fight is far more fun and engaging.
As someone who also played a warrior and did that fight, he had to have been on like max difficulty with a shit build because I melted all there of those phases in like 3-7 minutes. fight wasn't even 10 minutes long on normal.
It's a lot less of a pain in the ass if you use your ranged attack, especially if you have shield bounces, as the shield will bounce between the heads and hit them multiple times for absurd amounts of damage. It's still a terrible fight, but you know, less terrible if you remember you have a ranged attack.
@@spatrk6634 How is combat not bad? Did you miss the 30min brandead dragon boss fight in this video? The inflated HP fodder enemies to pad the playtime?
Yeah and he says Outlaws is worse when the game has similar strengths and weaknesses... Not to mention he played this for 71 hours... meanwhile he dropped Stellar Blade. His ratings of games are super off in both directions. I watch him for entertainment and to see the drama in gaming. Expecting to get an accurate assessment of game from him is a fools errand. The sad thing is other video game youtubers are also pretty bad at that. At least we can always see the first 5-10 hours of a game and decide whether it's worth purchasing.
@@GigglingStoners He says he only cares about the combat, but the combat is mediocre at best, how can you say a game is 6/10 (above avarge) when it only has 1 half decent element & everything else is crap?
In an age where people love Baldur's Gate 3 for giving an experience to us, that the original Dragon Age once gave us, it is sad to see the state of Bioware now. From a industry leader to... whatever this is
@@roftar I don't understand most reviews, either they are a bland generic souless review giving everything good grades 7+, or they are completely unhinged and give everything that they hate a 0 or 1 and everything that they like a 9 or 10
@@AsogiMK Yeah but when one of the key component of a game, in this case the writing, is garbage. Even with the best graphic and the best gameplay. You can't save it.
@@roftar From what I can tell it is functional and looks ok ignoring art direction. Joe gives Non functional games 0 or 1 MindJack and Sonic FreeRiders. 3 is Fair review consistent with the rest of his reviews.
Asmon: This game sucked! Also Asmon: This game is a 6 out of 10. Implying that something sucks does no mean it deserves a better score than 5 which is okay.
@@hartyewh1 nah 1-4/10 is Unredeemable for ANY REASON. A story SO BAD you cant play it since its integrated so heavily into the game and it CANT be Ironically Enjoyed, Gameplay Buggy AF Game BREAKING Literally Unplayable. 5-7/10 Mediocre and okay games can be redeemed in some way. Even Horrible playing games and stupid stories are here but its just done poorly but not DESTROY YOUR HUMANITY BAD. 8-10/10 Good Games 11+/10 A game that will never exist.
Idk about Asmon but I always give a 5+ rating if I finish the movie/game/show. 1-4: So bad I couldn't even finish it. 5: I finished it but I hated every moment of it. 6: Bad 7: Alright / ok for killing time. 8: Good 9: Masterpiece 10: My personal all time favorites So I'd probably also give Veilguard a 6 if I played it.
@@won1853that's a 1-7 scoring system though not 1-10. Joes even explains once in a while how to use 10 numbers in a 1-10 span. To many people got spoiled by corrupt game magazins which are contractual obligated to not give less than 6 and so destroyed a correct assessment.
I don’t see how Asmon always complains about games journalist ratings not using a 5/10 scale properly as average, but then says this game is above average with a 6/10.
He said it himself. He doesn't care about the characters, the writing or the story. If you don't engage with 70% of an RPG. And just engage with the average combat you will think the game is average.
The combat became bearable when I started realizing how OP shield throwing is It's so crazy strong that you really never have to use your sword ever again which is stupid in its own right
@@ClassicLaraCroft At least pull your mom aside later, rather than having an outburst in front of everyone like a petulant child. So we're just teaching kids that having zero emotional maturity is a good thing.
If you're doing a 10 point scale where 10 is perfect and 0 is horrible. 6 would be above average, 5 is average, 3 sucks. If you can't say anything nice about it, its insane to say something is a 6 out of 10. That's some IGN level bs right there.
0 would be unplayable. The Veilguard is shit, but it has some kind of storyline, reasonably connected game mechanics and decent graphics. I've played some truly shitty Kickstarter and amateur games back when I had more free time, and 6/10 is fairly reasonable for a game that looks OK, plays fine and doesn't crash every 2.3 minutes. Veilguard isn't good, but it's above average. Because the majority of games in existence are worse. The other thing is that you shouldn't waste your time on average games. Especially if they're sold at AAA prices. I don't have that much free time now, so if I'm playing a game (and paying $60 for it), it better be some 9-10/10 stuff like Black Myth Wukong.
@@miken3963 Exactly. What is an 'average quality' game? Realistically, there are so many extremely bad games out there that the average quality game is very bad.
for real, in one breath "the game sucks" and in another literally saying it's above average, since 5 is average so by calling it a 6 you're saying it's above average, wild.
I can see the argument that good graphics and a functional combat system, alongside atrocious writing and the grape of everything the franchise stood for results in a 6/10. I strongly disagree with it, but I can see how somebody with zero investment in the franchise comes to that conclusion.
In my opinion he doesn't have good taste in games he kind of average dodge/roll/sneak attack enjoyer. That formula to me is brainrot but I understand some people are straight addicted to that kind of thing like crack I have many friends who are into nothing but Souls type games.
6/10 is fair, it's mediocre, nobody gets excited for a 6/10. It's not like the game was buggy mess like Cyberpunk at launch, so it literally functions correctly as a game, also has nice visuals. A review of a game should be every aspect of the game combined, not just giving it lower score because you hate the story or it doesn't live up to the franchise
A man once installed three 🚿 public showers. Someone asked him, "Why three showers?" He replied, "The first is for people who want to take a full bath. The second is for those who just want to freshen up by washing their hands and face." The other person nodded but then asked, "What about the third one?" The man sighed and said, "That’s for people who don’t want to do either, you genius!"
Guys, these developers resent and hate us. They're farming our outrage and frustration. It's time to just move on to developers that aren't _intentionally ruining your beloved franchises_
It's 100% a marketing tactic. I keep hearing people say things like, "How could a developer be dumb enough to go on an anti-gamer Twitter rant?" Obviously, they're not being dumb. They're doing it because -- at least for a while there -- it was an easy way to stir up outrage, to get the gaming press on their side and become a cause celebre on the left. Regular gamers, meanwhile, didn't care, so it was a net win. But now regular gamers are starting to care, so the hack isn't working as well, and they'll move on to something else.
The gaming industry is being overrun by activists. I'm sure there's some devs on the team that did not want this but don't want to lose their job or be sent to HR. They're essentially being held at gun point if they don't virtue signal. Everyone who agrees with these decisions thinks they're doing something for the greater good. Evil disguised as good.
Is he? He seems sick of the woke stuff too and always critiques the liberal shows like hulk really low and points out how tired he is of the man hating
Maybe honest liberals are more common than you wish to believe. Joe never really makes politics a big part of his reviews, I can only recall one time he did and that was years ago. At the end of the day he just wants whatever game he’s talking about to be good.
I stopped watching AngryJoe years ago after he turned SoyJoe. The only reason I think he has the balls to actually call it trash, is because he has seen the cultural shift recently. So, he's grifting.
at least he kept getting money and would keep his position - which all would be lost if he taken the "wrong" side... and they would chase him to his real job (if he lost channel to GG shenaningans) too because they love destroying people's life even in real life...
@@jaslikeswater No one goes for games for educational purposes and that's exactly the problem. Many modern games in general and this game in particular smash you over the head with lectures and sermons about as subtle as a sledgehammer-blow to the face. The politics aren't even the main issue, it's the way how poorly they are handled, how poorly they are portrayed and how patronizingly and condescendingly they are delivered. Veilguard also gives you barely a way to opt out of that shit. You might not have to make your character non-binary, but you can't choose not to take Taash as a companion and her entire shtick is thrown in your lap regularly, whether you want to or not. It also feels like your only options when that shit pops up is choosing between "Fervent support for Taash" and "Lukewarm support for Taash". Believe me, if there was an option "Tell Taash to shut the fuck up and stop bothering peopel with her petty, self-centered, self-indulgent bullshit", the game would have been received a whole lot better. The problem isn't the presence of politics in a game, it's the presence of poorly handled implementation of politics in a game, that talks down to the player. A lot of people enjoy vidya that makes them think or that shines a light on important topics, Deus Ex was popular for a reason... the problem is when untalented hacks make a game that is a vehicle to peddle an ideology first, a way to cash in on a title's brand-recognition second and a game third or forth down the list of priorities. I, like many, don't like the idea of paying money for a game that then tells me "Agree to this agenda or be labeled a fascist." Especially when the game's no fun.
@@h.a.9880 Exactly right. In the past DA games, you could get rid of party members you didn't like. But they no longer allow that in this game....for SOME strange reason. We all know why and the fact that they had to do that shows how much they wanted to cram their agenda down our throats. Its a game meant to be enjoyed...but this is not enjoyable. This is what people mean by "woke" games being miserable. It has nothing to do with diversity or inclusion and everything to do with the forced presentation and condescending delivery.
@@RedMage117 Not allowing you to ditch any party member might have at least something to do with Bioware cutting costs. When you can replace or remove companions, the game has to allow you to branch out in certain narrative ways, so it does lead to more stuff that needs to be made to properly allow that to happen. Kinda like dungeons become more and mroe linear in Elder Scrolls games. You'd have crazy elaborate labyrinths in Morrowind, then some branches and loops in Oblivion and basically one long tunnel from A to B in Skyrim. The reason back then was publishers hated the idea that programmers would create a level that only a fraction of players would actually explore. It's inefficient from their point of view. Could be similar here, that not being able to swap out companions was at least partially founded on not wanting to waste dev-time on content only some parts of the playerbase would ever see... ...but then again: They force their agenda down your throat and the key character to do that is Taash. So not being able to remove her is most likely by choice to support "tHe MeSsAgE".
To be fair, Andromeda was made by Bioware Montreal. (Which was closed in 2017) Dragon age Veilguard, Like Anthem before it, was made by Bioware Edmundton.
I like how people do not acknowledge the existence of Andromeda and are like, "ohh, they might destroy ME!!" THEY HAVE ALREADY DESTROYED MASS EFFECT!! WITH ANDROMEDAAAA!! They might destroy "Shepard"... That's gonna be sad...
Mass Effect Andromeda was not bad. It was its own thing. Sort of like an adventure story pioneering and exploring new regions of space. It wasn't meant to be a continuation of the "main" Mass Effect story. It's basically a side story.
@@legaiaflame In my opinion, both alone, and compared to other ME entries, it was VERY bad. No interesting character, be it a companion or main character, no interesting or memorable story, planet, location, quest... I cannot remember a single one of my companions' names, cannot remember the name of my ship, any of the planets, any of the races, or story lines. So, in my opinion, it was really bad. It just had good crafting and OK combat. That's like 10 to 20% of what a good game should offer, if that.
Dude, anyone with a brain or an ounce of sanity thinks this game is a 3 on its best fucking day! It doesn't matter whether you're a fan of the franchise or not!
I will never forget what they did to Mass Effect nor will I ever forgive them. Hell, for being so woke, getting an actual gay male romance option that isn't an afterthought and a nobody character is like pulling teeth. (Andromeda. Idk about Veilguard.) So they're not even doing woke well smh.
Andromeda was just a spin-off of the series. It doesn't touch the lore of the main line mass effect, so it doesn't really affect the previous game, unlike the vailguard that retroactively destroys previous lore.
To be fair to the Andromeda team: they only worked on ME3’s multiplayer before Andromeda and only had 18 months or so. Meanwhile Veilguard had damn near ten years. I can feel they at least attempted with Andromeda.
I enjoyed Andromeda for what it was and actually liked the cast. The easter egg if collected all Ryder's memories about the reapers and such is a nice touch too, but yeah, not even close to the original trilogy.
I can't fathom how he keeps calling it a 6, when he is giving a scathing review to pretty much all aspects of the game. A 6 because it's sometimes pretty, and music is okay?
I don't understand the overall love for Dragon Age. Origins was the best one and it was a 7/10 at best. The rest of the DA games are just trash. There has never been a DA Game even come close to ANY of the Mass Effect or KOTOR games.
Andromeda had issues, but the gameplay was fantastic, and it didn't retcon/explain 90 percent of the entire franchise's lore to be fundamentally worse by explaining everything with "this game's villain did it". Mass Effect Andromeda didn't kill my hope for the next game like Veilguard did with Dragon Age.
@@vorbo01 agree to disagree. I still finished it and had a bit of fun with it. I'm not even gonna touch veilguard based on the crap I've seen. At the very least Andromeda didn't shove identity politics down my throat.
Angry Joe blows my mind, he's woke to the point that he supported Anita Sarkeesian and alienated all Trump supporters. Now hes reeling back at the consequences of his choices.
@randybobandy9828 The sales numbers are all over the place. I am hearing 1 mil in the first week and some j-off thinks it can pull 2 mil by now and 5 mil by the end of December.
I still can't believe no one thought portraying a non-binary character as a disgusting, harassing unhinged weirdo was problematic. That's not inclusive, that's just gross
Absolutely not, there are too many good games out there to spend your time and money on an average one. With that said, there are average games that can become guilty pleasures for some. Off the top of my head, one of mine would be Generation Zero. I wish I could recommend it to my buddies for coop but its not great...it just happens to scratch an itch or two.
@@frankieb9444 that¿s what it means to be a 5 (average) out of 10, not amazing but not specially bad, which is a reason why asmon giving it a 6 is so insulting
I agree on most points, although I don't understand why they struggled so hard with combat - especially with the Warrior class. I actually had to increase difficulty to maximum because enemies and bosses died so fast. I assume they haven't upgraded their gear and did the boss fights with underleveled weapons.
Asmon, play Origins. You will understand why he gave this a 3. You seem to already understand, but understanding something is different than feeling the logic to your core.
Origins is a pretty old game. There's a lot of modern fans that don't understand how advanced it was for its time, nor its roots in D&D. I don't think Asmongold would enjoy it.
I played origins, Its just a Keep moving, fights happen automaticly, And it got pretty boring for me. Just click Your skills without thought And you win. Its like a novel that interrupts reading with boring fights, But Thats just me
@@elunegracee absolutly not like this if you play above easy mode. Dragon age origins need prepartion and strategies for a lot of fights. If you walked through left clicking and controlling nothing, that just mean you played in easy like my 13 old little brother did back then
You're right, absolutely right. Mass Effect Andromeda's story was real weak. However, the combat in that game was some of the best I had ever played. Definitely in a Mass Effect game, and was truly the part they improved the most.
To be fair, there's a different director steering the ship for the next Mass Effect game, and they supposedly are bringing back veterans who worked on previous games. So, I don't think it's all doom and gloom quite yet. Plus, their team has the benefit of seeing what possibly didn't work with DA, and course correcting. The main worry at this point is if EA will even keep Bioware as a studio, or disband them because of DA:V's failure. Also, my own personal view is Mass Effect 5 or whatever it will be called, will probably be a mid to terrible game, but I I think there's possibly some hope for it.
@@ZeroShaneBob Lol copium, doesn't matter who they bring in to make the game, HR is in charge at the end of the day and make the final say. Game will be trash.
Unfortunately, this game is not meant to be played on anything above the easiest difficulty. It doesn't become any harder, just more and more annoying and BORING.
I think the hate on andromeda is abit too much. Yeah it's not as great as ones before but it did make some fun changes like the dialogue wheel and combat. Plenty of the characters written well. Removing paragon and renegade is something they shouldn't of done.
@@Pers0n97 nope I enjoyed it when I first played it. It was alright. I'm not coping. I just have a different opinion. And if you think I like veilguard, well I wouldn't even touch it if it was free.
Dragon age gayguard is the ultimate woke garbage. They destroyed the franchise and the next is fable and mass effect. Forget those games gentlemen. The only thing that's left are the memories of the past games. R.I.P.
The video didn't come out when people were still coping and seething, claiming "it's not that bad" but after it'd been out a while and it was socially acceptable for him to call a spade a spade.
Iirc, when I was still subbed to AJ, he would always put out his reviews late, probably because he plays the games a lot before making his reviews. AJ might not be The Act Ma'am.
for some reasons you can't give bad scores to some games around the release, without getting blasted in return not bad as The Last of Us 2, but still terrible
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Good thing those people who dont have blood cant complain about it
Those comments were funny af
They put the angry back in AngryJoe.
Can't have too many good games coming out, gotta make sure the name stays accurate
Really thought we were left with ShillJoe & ShillUp by now and they finally dropped some serious reviews. ( granted I haven't watch them a lot recently )
@@keysmccormick8630tbh i never understand this, sometimes people have differing opinions, doesn’t automatically make you a shill
@@sagenebula7120 yeah Joe’s not a shill, at least when it comes to video games. lol. His review of VG for example is fair.
@@codysellers4151 He is not a shill. He is far left tho, so you could expect him to defend woke games, but even he can admit that games like DA: V or Suicide Squad suck balls.
Towards the end of Joes video there’s such a funny part. The game spends so much time affirming Taash’s pronouns, and her transition to they/them. There’s even a long side quest to make sure people start calling her they/them. But at the end when/if she dies they call her a she 😂 It proves how performative the whole thing was. It’s like they forgot. The person who calls her a she is the person who did pushups! Hahaha. So in her memory, to show her respect, after her death they “dead name” her and pull a Barve 😂
I didn't play much of the game so i am wondering what happens if you don't do the quest to encourage her mental illness. Do they have two separate voice lines? Maybe the "she" at the end of the game was from a playthrough that rightfully ignored her teenage "i wanna be special" phase.
Or does tash embrace her insanity regardless of player choice?
@@NuStiuFrate 'Player Choice'...? What meaningless word salad is that? This is DragonAge Veilguard!
well to be fair
"your parents will use your real name on your grave"
@@leonhardable😂😂😂lmaooo at parents burying their child😂😂😂😅
@@NuStiuFrate that would require good writing
VeilGuard was CLEARLY made for kids. It's the "We're here, we're queer, we're coming for your children" edition of Dragon Age.
Stop them Guts
It's made for adult lesbians with a Peter pan complex and are Marxists.
The problem is BioWare games have always been inclusive, there are always the hetero companions and the lgbt companions, the difference is the older games never shove it into your face.
DA:Inquisition had a companion whose gayness is the reason why he had a strained relationship with his father and that one was written so much better than Taash.
I do like buff girls fit mmhmmm
@@andresbogado7133 is made for adult lesbians
You know what I've noticed from AAA games lately. Despite an M rating, they act like their audience is exclusively for five year-olds.
Nice copy paste
@@battfinkzfr lol… I’ve seen this one too
Probably cause these pdfs are targeting actual 5 year olds.
Their M rating stands for minors
@@Norrschein haha, this reminded me of Vice City. "Rated R for retar...." I miss Vice City. lol
2:16 he is definitely right as a dragon age fan i feel like a star wars fan right now
I still feel betrayed by Disney...
Oof 😅
Dude if you were an actual dragon age fan you would have checked out after origins, the only game worth anything in this series.
2 was a piece of shit because EA wanted to turn it into fantasy mass effect and make it a hack n slash with copy and pasted dungeons but thankfully that failed but the game was still dark fantasy and had decent ideas that could have been fixed with a sequel.
Inquisition is even worse than 2 and all the DEI bullshit we see in veilguard has roots on full display in inquisition, Krem another trans character from inquisition is also annoying and forced (long story short Krem is a tomboy who wants to be a man but when asked if she would be given magic that would let her change completely she says no I don't want that magic anywhere near me, you aren't fucking trans then Krem you are a tomboy period) but it was but a mere sample of what we got with trash (in calling her that because she is trash) in veilguard.
@@delta2372Inquisition was fine from this perspective, and a good game IMO. They didn’t make sacrifices to make way for inclusion... If you have to reference a character as minor & obscure as Krem to rant about, you may be a bit lost in the anti-woke sauce
Yea Disney was the death of everything. Not old Disney, new woke pdf friendly Disney
"Rated M for adults, censored for kids"
- AAA gaming
Too many adult children running these companies.
Rated M nowadays is not rated mature but rated minors. since they dialogue and everything it feels like a kid pretending to be adult
Rated M for mODerN auDIeNCeS
It's censored for the modern audience that doesn't play games. Women still look down on gaming also. It appeals to no one.
Need to censor the gay shit
I love hearing the good vs the bad argument. 😂
"Good, graphics and hair look great. Runs pretty well. Bad: everything else."
Hair very important, 10/10
Jaja /.We
I like how the people in the subreddit is having a meltdown over Joe's 3/10.
They start calling him "shill", "fence sitter", "transphobic", or whatever else they can think of because they didn't even bother to watch the vid because they know that "it's just repeating what everyone says" and is irrelevant.
Yes defo
@@AsmongoldSongs bk 1 week if I can I will..x
0:12 he should sue BioWare to cover his medical cost lol
Is it just me or do other people want to see these old great game companies just shut down so they don’t keep doing this shit? Angry Joe is 100% right , it fucks with your memory of previous games.
Just close BioWare already, stop it. Let the ips die.
He probably got that when Trump won
The "M" in the ESRB doesn't stand for Mature anymore, it stands for "Modern Audiences"
M for Manchildren
@@muneshxge
Wokies
it'd be insulting to men of every age
Wait, the game is supposed to be rated "M"? Oh, dear God.
AngryJoe Liberal
@@muneshxge Nope, it's M for Maam.
At least brother is honest , unlike IGN
He was still too cowardly the mention the source of the problems.
@marwin4348 Giving it to three is still telling. Probably doesn't want to burn that bridge
This comment is 7.5/10 -IGN
Ign sold out
@@Lord8-bits Too much water
7:27 a 6/10? I want whatever Asmon's smoking 🚬
To be fair, Asmon , to my knowledge, hasn't really played the other games. If he was a long time fan like Joe he would have 100% been harsher on it.
@@filipvadas7602 Also he has a much lower standard on what makes a good game lol Let's not forget he is a WoW player
I think asmon skipped a lot of the story and dialogue and just rated it on gameplay.
I'd give it a 8/10 , I find it hilarious how these right wing toxic gamers keep having to make excuses to hate this game " GUYS! I KNOW THE COMBAT LOOKS SUPER COOL AND THE VISUALS ARE STUNNING , BUT ITS SO BAD YALL. LIKE IVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 8 HOURS STRAIGHT AND ITS SO BAD. SOOO BAD YALL. "
@@SchwakaI think the majority of people who shat out reviews the day after release did this.
I'm happy reviews of actual fans are coming out now, and they are positive. This is a great game of youre a fan of dragon age story.
Angry Joe is going to get angry when they add only three endings to the next mass effect game with the gay ending, the trans ending, and the nonbinary ending, all slightly different but with different shades of gay flags.
I laughed so hard at this.
50 shades of em
Will be be able to finally play as a non-binary Shepard?
And because people will be unhappy with those endings, they'll add a new straight ending, where you die cold and alone because you're an evil bigot
and he will still support the people who make that happen, some people never learn, do they?
"This game did suck, but it's a 6 out of 10"
Dude....that doesn't make sense.
6/10 to any sane person would be about average. Most reviewers are too cowardly to give out honest scores.
Thats why he's not a reviewer. You heard what he said, he doesn't care about the lore, the story, the old games, means continuity of the franchise. Of course his score is whack and makes no sense. By his measure, why even make another game in any franchise.
@@ichigokagedude this is below is average. lol
@@flowerbloom5782you mean is above average. 5 is average. 6 is above average.
@@daktaklakpak5059 he went in there like 85% of potential players for the game would have started playing. Do you honestly think that the target audience for this game was people who are into dragon age, having played previous titles? The percentage of people who've played them, or were willing to invest time into the dragon age series thanks to the game's announcement is def a small amount compared to the new blood they could have reached. So why take it into account as a new player, if even the devs dont care?
Imagine if back when they made Skyrim, in the middle of a feast at Windhelm one of the characters stands up at the table. "UHHH... IS THIS ALE VEGAN? I CAN'T PROCESS SOME TYPES OF HOPS VERY WELL AND I GET TUMMY ACHES". Then, after people really don't like that, Bethesda writers act shocked like they can't figure out why people are saying it's immersion breaking.
It's just bad, and it was made to be a political soapbox rather than a good RPG. The fact Joe gave it a 3/10 blows any argument of "grifting" out of the water.
an NPC to top Nazeem in amount of times players "auto-save."
people don't need "grifters" to know that aggressive wokeness in the game is terrible.
Bad analogy unfortunately, since lorewise TES brand of Wood Elves are religiously forbidden from consuming any plant matter - even wearing cloth derived from processed plant fibres is haraam in their culture.
They famously get high by smoking ground-up venomous insects in pipes made from hollowed-out bones.
Crying "grifter" is the same as all the -ists and -phobes the left uses. They all mean the same thing - "I can't argue or deny your point so I'm just going to smear you"
Angry Joe is basically a diehard dragon age fan and his review is probably what 90% of hardcore fans feel. Game is a 'okay' $10 sale casual game with a dialogue skipping mod.
Guarantee nexus mods bans all mods that actually improve the game because they're on board the agenda of forced dei, and ban everything like fixing the flags in Spider-Man. You'd have to find the mod somewhere else, and it WON'T be indexed in search engines, nor will modders care as much as fixing starfield. No, the only appropriate response is to NEVER buy the game even on sale. You're better off playing some fan made expansion in a different engine. If fans even still exist. This is exactly like how they ruined star wars. Modern content doesn't exist to the fans. You have to stop buying it, because it just funds more of it, and if they go under that's the price, and maybe a new studio will take over.
They can make it free and i still wouldnt waste the drive space.
My time is worth more than that $10.
As a fan of Dragon age any higher than a 3/10 is bs, waited ten years for a new Dragon age and it's terrible in every conceivable way, gameplay, story, art, and dear god gender nonsense in a dark fantasy setting especially since it's focused on the one race where it makes the least amount of sense, also you can't really role play in anyway other than meak good pc boy. Dragon age was loved and then this game comes out and most likely killed the entire franchise so again a 3/10 is being nice, Dragon age was better when this game Didn't exist.
@@SoftExoI bet that ending was cathartic.
"This game did suck, its a 6/10".
Sir...5/10 is average. To suck, you have to be beneath a 5.
Math aint his forte aparently 😂
Yeah his score resemble IGNs
bold of you to assume the average game doesn't suck
the amount of people that don't understand what "middle" means anymore, is somehow both not surprising and shocking LMAO
IGN did damage to the game buy letting every company pay them off and raising the "average" to 7. Number reviews suck in general though.
First, they DID reboot the entire DA lore. Every country that you played in until VG is destroyed, taken over by the blight. They're gone, nothing you did there matters anymore. As for Mass Effect, it's already destroyed. The ending of 3? Andromeda? The same execs who greenlit those choices are STILL at Bioware.
exactly, no hope for ME...
Andromeda was pretty good
Lmfaoo no @@TheLurker1647
@@TheLurker1647 Andromeda could've been good. There were some cool ideas, like the focus on exploration and survival on a new frontier, but why was the Andromeda galaxy so much more boring than ours? The aliens sucked and the ancient technology that was literally everywhere felt like a lazy facade over a gimmicky game design.
he got blacklisted from resetera for "hate speech" after giving last of us 2 a 6/10. I hope they squeal some more after this.
Wait what? Is that true?
With the click of a button, powerful, wealthy, influential people can invisibilize anyone they like. Especially if their target has fewer resources and support than they have.
@@Novastar.SaberCombatno one nose 👃 who they are
They are the fake juice the ash kanazi!!
Watch everyone EUROPA THE LAST BATTLE and Old world 0rder.
Resetera lmfao. A blacklist from that place is a badge of honor.
A 3 is fair
especially since every review ever starts at 6.
i think we should start rating stuff like 3 out of 10 people would not hate this game or something.
Yes
Indeed. It's not 0. A 3 is legit.
Yep, there are no real merits to the game where it counts. The combat is half-decent but ruined by shitty design. The rest is a trainwreck.
maybe thats why they call it a AAA game
Lords of the Fallen shits all over Veilguard, are you even serious right now?
The first one was not good at all when it came out. On a pure technical level - as in push button and action happens, Veilguard was better (it also had better performance and stability). I personally like the storytelling better in LotF than in Veilguard, but let's not ignore the good sides of games we don't like. To me Veilguard shows that BioWare has a lot of talented artists in their departments, except for their writers, who either was told to make a story "for all audiences" (the lowest common denominator) or actually wanted to tell the story we see.
Constant repetition, the story being very much on the nose and in your face - bleh. Make a good story, leave subtle undertones there for the player to find and do sidequests about if they're interested (sure, try to tease the player into being interested). Not everything has to be Elden Ring levels of obscured storytelling, but you don't have to have people incessantly talking about "hint hint I have a loyalty mission you need to do now!"
If they wanted to do a softer and more inclusive RPG-lite, why force it into the Dragon Age world?
This review was a "return to form" for Angry Joe.
For those that haven't watched his review, I strongly recommend it, hilarious review, especially his opening skit.
It’s good to have the guy back in angry form
He was absolutely gold in this review. I pretty much agree with him on the majority of it as well. Never seen so much retconning in a single game before. It's like half of inquisition didn't happen, the DLC's were completely ignored.
His Starfield review is funny as well!
Yeah sometimes they play it up dramatically, but this was all so genuine watching them play it
Good lord almighty, Joe looks so, DEPRESSED. I’ve never seen a game destroy a person like that, for just playing it!!
Starfield launch lol?
@ oh right, I kinda remember that….. still, he looks worse in this review.
I've looked like that while playing games, but it's not my job so I stop playing it and then do something I enjoy.
Watch his ride to hell retribution review
Ride to hell redemption
He said it's a 6 straight faced. You are out of your mind
Why? It aligns perfectly with the political shit he believes in. This guy has always had bad takes.
@@ApolloMcrib you rank a game lower because you don't agree with it politically?
I think it's fair to take off extra points for destroying something that you loved. Like "Rings of Power" is 1/10. But if it wasn't based on "Lord of the Rings," it'd be a solid 3.
For Joe 5 is an average game, this is below that. Also Joe is rating the story with it, while Asmon said he skipped a lot of the story. I think you're right, don't use the name if you can't live up to it, but I don't know how much of a factor it played here. This game is below average or bad, so 3 or 4.
Even if it wasn't a series you loved I still think a 3 is deserved. A 6 should be a neutral game that you had some moderate amount of fun playing. It's a game that actively ruins your time and that deserves a 3.
@@Haruka_May how can 6 be neutral?
@@Pltr03How isnt 6 a neutral? 5-7 is neutral/meh 8 is good 9 is near perfect and everything under is just the opposite, from meh to gradual increase of pain
@@Pltr03 Because 5 is average when you're grading on a scale of 1 to 10. 6 out of 10 is above average.
This is how Joe has graded games for over a decade. It's also a much more logically coherent system than treating 7's as average like IGN or the education system does. Granted, the education system wants you to get the large majority of questions consistently correct, but IGN and game reviews don't get that excuse. 😅
Veilguard is worse than all its predecessors. The 3/10 score is more than far for the amount of damage Veilguard did to the Dragonage series as a whole, we literally waited 10 years for this, and it couldn't even improve on anything. I feel like Bioware stole my money and ran.
Development wise, it *was" going to be Fortnight, but Dragon Age before they scraped the project and started over... while reusing as many assets as possible... and without pretty much all of the key writers... headed by a sims designer... It sounds too absurd to be true, doesn't it?
I want a refund for just watching the cringe and i didn't even buy the game.
They told you that when they tried to hide reviews and handpicked reviewers. They knew you wouldn't like it and wanted your money. I'm stunned people still decided to buy it. Can't think of any situation where they blatantly lied and tried to hide stuff and people would still buy the product from them voluntarily
@@jpteknomanI have a friend just like you. He's MAGA and watched all these reviews from right wing gamers and now he hates the franchise too without even have played it himself. I wish I could tell him he is a victim of propaganda, but it's useless to try. You can't convince someone who's being scammed, that they are being scammed.
didnt even play it but feels like I've been robbed
I'm convinced developers HATE us because we love videogames.
i got permabanned from the steam forum for merely saying the game was developed for tourists by people who resent gamers
LMFAO
They hated you because you spoke the truth 😔
Yeah that forum is just filled with BioWare fanboys even if point out fair criticism they will bash you and say you’re wrong.
Classic, I'm always got censored everytime I'm saying what should be in the News. You can't answer questions with right answers anymore. You had to lie or pretend to be clueless to let your comments exist in every platform.
I got banned from Dragon Age Facebook group when I posted videos showing how they butchered the lore
@@atlanteean they don’t want discussion they just want to be in a echo chamber.
Asmon calling it a 6/10 shows how out of touch he is. its a 3 at best
Among is using 5 to 10 scale, as game journalists do. 7 is average, 8 is good. 6 is bad. 5 is dogshit, and I didn't see ign even rating any AAA as 5 or below ever.
Then he's stupid. That system makes no logical sense
the game is a 6/10. its the writing and story thats a 3/10
@@nloadergd9193 which is a part of the game....
@@nloadergd9193 the game is a 2/10 the story is 1/10. have you seen the Broken ass game?
I'm one of the fools that didn't believe Veilguard could be that bad and bought it. I've played maybe 10 hours, hate every character. I'm now replaying the Witcher 3.
He defended DEI for years. And now his favorite game got done by it. Leopard ate his face.
RIPBOZO
That’s what happens when you shill for years like all these other greedy youtubers
Makes one wonder if he'll ever self-reflect enough to realize that he was part of the problem that led to this. Highly doubt it, but just maybe seeing his favorite game franchise butchered beyond recognition by HIS agenda might slap enough sense back into him to realize that this is exactly what he claimed to have wanted for years...but never truly did.
Where?
I’ll never forget that Angry Joe was pretty much in full support of Anita Sarkeesian back in 2013-14, Joe lambasted gamers and told everyone that ‘they’ will never take away hot and cool characters and power fantasies.
While I’m glad Joe is now giving trash the ratings they deserve (Star Wars included) I have little respect for his takes as a whole.
1.5 hour boss fight with 3 dragons... damn.. 🤨
And it wasn't fun from the looks of it.
@@lmno567 coming from someone who likes VG, it’s not a very fun fight. lol. Beforehand you fight two normal dragons at once, that fight is far more fun and engaging.
@@lmno567It wasn't had very few attack patterns and a crazy inflated HP pool kill one of two popped out kill two oh three now. Boring fight
As someone who also played a warrior and did that fight, he had to have been on like max difficulty with a shit build because I melted all there of those phases in like 3-7 minutes. fight wasn't even 10 minutes long on normal.
It's a lot less of a pain in the ass if you use your ranged attack, especially if you have shield bounces, as the shield will bounce between the heads and hit them multiple times for absurd amounts of damage.
It's still a terrible fight, but you know, less terrible if you remember you have a ranged attack.
How can you justify this garbage as a 6?
How?
from what i've seen combat and exploration is not actually that bad.
its the story and dialogues that ruin it.
@@spatrk6634 How is combat not bad? Did you miss the 30min brandead dragon boss fight in this video? The inflated HP fodder enemies to pad the playtime?
@@Doppier yes i missed that.
Asmongold going deep defending his 6/10 rating haha. No way it's 6.
I can’t believe asmon giving this game 6/10 😂
It's a 6 cause he ignores huge parts of the game that make it much worse.
It's because he has no attention to any details, his only focus is combat lmao.
Yeah and he says Outlaws is worse when the game has similar strengths and weaknesses... Not to mention he played this for 71 hours... meanwhile he dropped Stellar Blade.
His ratings of games are super off in both directions. I watch him for entertainment and to see the drama in gaming. Expecting to get an accurate assessment of game from him is a fools errand. The sad thing is other video game youtubers are also pretty bad at that. At least we can always see the first 5-10 hours of a game and decide whether it's worth purchasing.
@@GigglingStoners He says he only cares about the combat, but the combat is mediocre at best, how can you say a game is 6/10 (above avarge) when it only has 1 half decent element & everything else is crap?
Normal person: 0/10
Angry person: 3/10
Asmonbald: 6/10
Asmon seems to try and kiss some ass at times
He has 70h in this game, you know he loves it.
I would give it a 2/10.
two points for impressive hair, and nice backgrounds. That's it.
@@forwardghost_ Did you even play the video to see his reasoning?
Everyone need to do something like playing thought a shittie game while they wait for poe2
In an age where people love Baldur's Gate 3 for giving an experience to us, that the original Dragon Age once gave us, it is sad to see the state of Bioware now. From a industry leader to... whatever this is
3/10? That's an insult to everything rated 3/10.
what you love that game
@@mysticstrikeforce5957 ... I said "rating that game 3/10 is insulting to everything rated 3/10". How did you come to that conclusion?
@@roftar I don't understand most reviews, either they are a bland generic souless review giving everything good grades 7+, or they are completely unhinged and give everything that they hate a 0 or 1 and everything that they like a 9 or 10
@@AsogiMK Yeah but when one of the key component of a game, in this case the writing, is garbage. Even with the best graphic and the best gameplay. You can't save it.
@@roftar From what I can tell it is functional and looks ok ignoring art direction.
Joe gives Non functional games 0 or 1 MindJack and Sonic FreeRiders.
3 is Fair review consistent with the rest of his reviews.
Asmon: This game sucked!
Also Asmon: This game is a 6 out of 10.
Implying that something sucks does no mean it deserves a better score than 5 which is okay.
7/10 is the limit of should anyone play it. 6/10 is pointless, worthless and whatever.
@@hartyewh1 nah 1-4/10 is Unredeemable for ANY REASON. A story SO BAD you cant play it since its integrated so heavily into the game and it CANT be Ironically Enjoyed, Gameplay Buggy AF Game BREAKING Literally Unplayable.
5-7/10 Mediocre and okay games can be redeemed in some way. Even Horrible playing games and stupid stories are here but its just done poorly but not DESTROY YOUR HUMANITY BAD.
8-10/10 Good Games
11+/10 A game that will never exist.
He's using the IGN scoring system
Idk about Asmon but I always give a 5+ rating if I finish the movie/game/show.
1-4: So bad I couldn't even finish it.
5: I finished it but I hated every moment of it.
6: Bad
7: Alright / ok for killing time.
8: Good
9: Masterpiece
10: My personal all time favorites
So I'd probably also give Veilguard a 6 if I played it.
@@won1853that's a 1-7 scoring system though not 1-10.
Joes even explains once in a while how to use 10 numbers in a 1-10 span.
To many people got spoiled by corrupt game magazins which are contractual obligated to not give less than 6 and so destroyed a correct assessment.
10/10 perfect
9/10 excellent
8/10 good
7/10 average
6/10 bad
5/10 fail
Less than 5 = willful negligence
I don’t see how Asmon always complains about games journalist ratings not using a 5/10 scale properly as average, but then says this game is above average with a 6/10.
He said it himself. He doesn't care about the characters, the writing or the story. If you don't engage with 70% of an RPG. And just engage with the average combat you will think the game is average.
@@juan0808that's ridiculous lol
@@juan0808 the combat is beyond garbage and the boss fights are even worse, it's a 3/10 max
@@juan0808that'd make it a 5, average being the middle of both numbers.
Man endured hell
🫡
Joe worshiped woke for a while and refused to admit to woke propaganda but now he feels the winds a changing so now he is anti woke now
Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
I mean he did play through Ride to Hell Redemption, so he's used to it 😂
The combat became bearable when I started realizing how OP shield throwing is
It's so crazy strong that you really never have to use your sword ever again which is stupid in its own right
Taash is such a terrible role model. The way it treats it's mom is terrible.
"The way it treats its mom is terrible" 😂😂😂😂
@@ClassicLaraCroft At least pull your mom aside later, rather than having an outburst in front of everyone like a petulant child. So we're just teaching kids that having zero emotional maturity is a good thing.
@shuikai272 No, no, no. The "it" and "it's" is what killed me in your comment. 😂
But yes, I agree!
@@ClassicLaraCroft its non binary bro 😂
Calling that thing it is better.
If you're doing a 10 point scale where 10 is perfect and 0 is horrible. 6 would be above average, 5 is average, 3 sucks. If you can't say anything nice about it, its insane to say something is a 6 out of 10. That's some IGN level bs right there.
0 would be unplayable. The Veilguard is shit, but it has some kind of storyline, reasonably connected game mechanics and decent graphics. I've played some truly shitty Kickstarter and amateur games back when I had more free time, and 6/10 is fairly reasonable for a game that looks OK, plays fine and doesn't crash every 2.3 minutes. Veilguard isn't good, but it's above average. Because the majority of games in existence are worse.
The other thing is that you shouldn't waste your time on average games. Especially if they're sold at AAA prices. I don't have that much free time now, so if I'm playing a game (and paying $60 for it), it better be some 9-10/10 stuff like Black Myth Wukong.
@@miken3963 Exactly. What is an 'average quality' game? Realistically, there are so many extremely bad games out there that the average quality game is very bad.
bro was so angry and tired he couldnt even scream....RIP joe
When Asmon says "I think this is a 6 out of 10 game," what he's really saying is "I have garbage tastes."
I mean LOOK at him lol
More like, "I'm completely ignoring huge parts of the game that make it a 3/10"
hes tired of all the hate hes getting from tourists and decided to fence sit this one is my guess.
Yeah in what world. I guess he just doesn't mind bad writing if gets a graphically good button masher dodge/roll/attack brainrotter
He played wow for years... of course his taste is shit
Zack giving this game 6/10 broke me, that's way too high
for real, in one breath "the game sucks" and in another literally saying it's above average, since 5 is average so by calling it a 6 you're saying it's above average, wild.
I can see the argument that good graphics and a functional combat system, alongside atrocious writing and the grape of everything the franchise stood for results in a 6/10.
I strongly disagree with it, but I can see how somebody with zero investment in the franchise comes to that conclusion.
In my opinion he doesn't have good taste in games he kind of average dodge/roll/sneak attack enjoyer. That formula to me is brainrot but I understand some people are straight addicted to that kind of thing like crack I have many friends who are into nothing but Souls type games.
6/10 is fair, it's mediocre, nobody gets excited for a 6/10. It's not like the game was buggy mess like Cyberpunk at launch, so it literally functions correctly as a game, also has nice visuals. A review of a game should be every aspect of the game combined, not just giving it lower score because you hate the story or it doesn't live up to the franchise
@@tj3423 5/10 is perfectly average, 6 is slightly above average. No way in hell this garbage is slightly above average lmao
A man once installed three 🚿 public showers. Someone asked him, "Why three showers?"
He replied, "The first is for people who want to take a full bath. The second is for those who just want to freshen up by washing their hands and face."
The other person nodded but then asked, "What about the third one?"
The man sighed and said, "That’s for people who don’t want to do either, you genius!"
Guys, these developers resent and hate us. They're farming our outrage and frustration. It's time to just move on to developers that aren't _intentionally ruining your beloved franchises_
It's 100% a marketing tactic. I keep hearing people say things like, "How could a developer be dumb enough to go on an anti-gamer Twitter rant?" Obviously, they're not being dumb. They're doing it because -- at least for a while there -- it was an easy way to stir up outrage, to get the gaming press on their side and become a cause celebre on the left. Regular gamers, meanwhile, didn't care, so it was a net win. But now regular gamers are starting to care, so the hack isn't working as well, and they'll move on to something else.
The gaming industry is being overrun by activists. I'm sure there's some devs on the team that did not want this but don't want to lose their job or be sent to HR. They're essentially being held at gun point if they don't virtue signal. Everyone who agrees with these decisions thinks they're doing something for the greater good. Evil disguised as good.
AngryJoe is a big time liberal too. So kudos to him for being an honest liberal. That's rare.
Him, OJ and Alex are pretty consistent on this. All they want are good games.
Maybe he is but he’s been a consistent good judge on games for well over a decade.
Is he? He seems sick of the woke stuff too and always critiques the liberal shows like hulk really low and points out how tired he is of the man hating
Maybe honest liberals are more common than you wish to believe.
Joe never really makes politics a big part of his reviews, I can only recall one time he did and that was years ago. At the end of the day he just wants whatever game he’s talking about to be good.
@ being a liberal doesn’t automatically mean you’re pro “woke” tbf. Plenty of left leaning people are getting tired of it too.
The fact Joe gave this DEI game a 3 is telling of how bad this game is because he isn’t anti woke anymore
goddamn, poor Joe
at this point Veilguard is like a fucking cursed game
Joe brought a funny point,characters using she not they referring tash again if you choose her to die in the final battle
Yup. Isabela funny enough for her massive showy apology of Pulling a Bharv or however you spell it.
Once the trans person dies, their original identity is unshackled and free and they can be honored by their state at birth again
@@LocherYT😂😂😂
@@LocherYTYou can't dead name a dead person 😂
Certified "His name is Robert Paulson" move I guess.
I stopped watching AngryJoe years ago after he turned SoyJoe. The only reason I think he has the balls to actually call it trash, is because he has seen the cultural shift recently. So, he's grifting.
This is why you should identify as No-buynary when buying this game.
10 seconds? Aint no way this isn't a bot
Thats actually a good one loll
@griffinarcher2911 It’s absolutely a bot. Comments get pushed hard by the algorithm on every video I watch.
@@prickly_procyonids VygoOG is a bot too btw. Purchased an account that has 2m subs and only 6 vids. They really think we're stupid lmao
I’m already sanesexual and my pronouns are… well… Humans have eyes, don’t we?
its like propaganda for kids with adult graphic.
Where's the adult graphics then? this look PG 13.
@MamaSusansMoney just watch the video. In some region, its considered adult content.
Just like Call of Duty. The problem is that this propaganda sucks
@@neotronextrem forced propaganda sucked. It should be more subtle.
If a game is not fun, it deserves a 1. There is no greater sin a game can commit than being boring.
I'll bet Joe regrets defending the Game's Industry's "woke policies" back in 2020.
Doubt it. Once you start drinking the koolaid... I bet he doesnt even link the atrocious quality of the game with the ideology that he supports.
at least he kept getting money and would keep his position - which all would be lost if he taken the "wrong" side... and they would chase him to his real job (if he lost channel to GG shenaningans) too because they love destroying people's life even in real life...
in 2 months from now he will be making excuses for a different woke slop product
he is mexican and against the right and conservatives in principle
There’s nothing wrong with being aware of discrimination, however woke policies are starting to become discriminatory
@@Kisundeez As intended, it always starts with them having a point but that is only to get the food in.
The game punched him for misgendering some of the characters. Remember it teaches physical punishment for mis rendering with Taash.
hold up, are you going to video games for educational purposes? dont you guys want this game to be more violent and all that?
@@jaslikeswaterDefinitely not going to a video game to be lectured about real life 2024 gender politics.
@@jaslikeswater No one goes for games for educational purposes and that's exactly the problem. Many modern games in general and this game in particular smash you over the head with lectures and sermons about as subtle as a sledgehammer-blow to the face.
The politics aren't even the main issue, it's the way how poorly they are handled, how poorly they are portrayed and how patronizingly and condescendingly they are delivered. Veilguard also gives you barely a way to opt out of that shit. You might not have to make your character non-binary, but you can't choose not to take Taash as a companion and her entire shtick is thrown in your lap regularly, whether you want to or not. It also feels like your only options when that shit pops up is choosing between "Fervent support for Taash" and "Lukewarm support for Taash". Believe me, if there was an option "Tell Taash to shut the fuck up and stop bothering peopel with her petty, self-centered, self-indulgent bullshit", the game would have been received a whole lot better.
The problem isn't the presence of politics in a game, it's the presence of poorly handled implementation of politics in a game, that talks down to the player.
A lot of people enjoy vidya that makes them think or that shines a light on important topics, Deus Ex was popular for a reason... the problem is when untalented hacks make a game that is a vehicle to peddle an ideology first, a way to cash in on a title's brand-recognition second and a game third or forth down the list of priorities.
I, like many, don't like the idea of paying money for a game that then tells me "Agree to this agenda or be labeled a fascist." Especially when the game's no fun.
@@h.a.9880 Exactly right. In the past DA games, you could get rid of party members you didn't like. But they no longer allow that in this game....for SOME strange reason. We all know why and the fact that they had to do that shows how much they wanted to cram their agenda down our throats. Its a game meant to be enjoyed...but this is not enjoyable. This is what people mean by "woke" games being miserable. It has nothing to do with diversity or inclusion and everything to do with the forced presentation and condescending delivery.
@@RedMage117 Not allowing you to ditch any party member might have at least something to do with Bioware cutting costs. When you can replace or remove companions, the game has to allow you to branch out in certain narrative ways, so it does lead to more stuff that needs to be made to properly allow that to happen.
Kinda like dungeons become more and mroe linear in Elder Scrolls games. You'd have crazy elaborate labyrinths in Morrowind, then some branches and loops in Oblivion and basically one long tunnel from A to B in Skyrim.
The reason back then was publishers hated the idea that programmers would create a level that only a fraction of players would actually explore. It's inefficient from their point of view.
Could be similar here, that not being able to swap out companions was at least partially founded on not wanting to waste dev-time on content only some parts of the playerbase would ever see...
...but then again: They force their agenda down your throat and the key character to do that is Taash. So not being able to remove her is most likely by choice to support "tHe MeSsAgE".
Gone are the days when the black isle studios crew came and united under the pressures of game development and excreted masterpieces
Bro wasn't that Angry since Ride to Hell Retribution.
Nah, he was angrier then. This was disappointed Joe.
"Fly off to the right and explode!"
@@lmno567older angry joe
He was pretty pissed at Suicide Squad.
I think every dragon age fan was broken by this "game".
Mortal Woke 1 broke me as an MK fan. Seeing this activated the ptsd.😂
They take everything loved and shit on them it's wild
Mass Effect was badly hurt with Andromeda, now they will finish the job.
Ahhhh.....
Mass Effect Andromeda?
They already f up Mass Effect
To be fair, Andromeda was made by Bioware Montreal. (Which was closed in 2017)
Dragon age Veilguard, Like Anthem before it, was made by Bioware Edmundton.
So they let the same team who made anthem make veilgaurd
@@RaifSeverencetime to close another studio?
@@RaifSeverencehopefully they close up soon too.
Is Mass effect andromeda good?
Is too woke?
I like how people do not acknowledge the existence of Andromeda and are like, "ohh, they might destroy ME!!" THEY HAVE ALREADY DESTROYED MASS EFFECT!! WITH ANDROMEDAAAA!! They might destroy "Shepard"... That's gonna be sad...
Mass Effect Andromeda was not bad. It was its own thing. Sort of like an adventure story pioneering and exploring new regions of space. It wasn't meant to be a continuation of the "main" Mass Effect story. It's basically a side story.
@@legaiaflame In my opinion, both alone, and compared to other ME entries, it was VERY bad. No interesting character, be it a companion or main character, no interesting or memorable story, planet, location, quest... I cannot remember a single one of my companions' names, cannot remember the name of my ship, any of the planets, any of the races, or story lines. So, in my opinion, it was really bad. It just had good crafting and OK combat. That's like 10 to 20% of what a good game should offer, if that.
Bruh... Andromeda is gold compared to this, it's not even close.
I played all 3 original mass effects and did as much side quests as I could. I played Andromeda and was disgusted and quit within an hour
@3ericw So if you quit within an hour you can't fairly judge the game. Since you haven't even played it!
I remember Angry Joe. I honestly didn’t know he still had a channel.
"Mom, can I have BG3 for Christmas?"
"Now son, we have BG3 at home."
BG3 at home:
D&D: Dark Alliance at home:
oh no, there is zero shred of hope that Mass Effect is going to be good. Enjoy the original trilogy and just pretend anything after 3 doesn't exist.
Andromeda was more of a spinoff anyway.
I pretend that there was only the first Mass Effect.
Dude, anyone with a brain or an ounce of sanity thinks this game is a 3 on its best fucking day!
It doesn't matter whether you're a fan of the franchise or not!
When my buddy how loved Dragon Age said he was off to play Veilguard I immediately said "I'm sorry" without thinking, lol.
Points should always be further docked for lore screwups. That includes character appearance and personality changes without explanations.
I just saw an article titled "If you're unhappy with Dragon Age: The Veilguard, you've only got yourselves to blame".....
that is partly correct, our tolerance has let things get this bad.
True, for buying it. Shouldn't have bought it.
Good lighting, music and hair physics...
Yeah 3/10 sounds about right.
David Jaffe loves the new Star Wars and Dragon Age, and he continuously talks down to people that don't share his opinion on them.
David jaffe is a relic , I'm sure he just goes against the flow for controversy sake now to get views
Yes were grifters he calls us. Grifters for not liking Dragon Age.
David Jaffe's opinions on anything are very unreliable.
I heard people lowering the difficulty to easy, just so the fights would be over quicker, cause they were so boring.
Oh boy. He took pernament hp lose on this one.
One does not react to Angry Joe without reacting to the whole video. 5 Points from Slytherin.
angry joe deserves the views.
Ravenclaw*
Man of culture!
On better side, people should go watch the video themselves, not through Asmon's reaction video.
Giving a 6 out of 10 means having completely lost the feeling for good games.
I guess everyone forgot about Mass Effect: Andromeda? They already ruined Mass Effect. This is BioWare's THIRD failure in a row.
I will never forget what they did to Mass Effect nor will I ever forgive them.
Hell, for being so woke, getting an actual gay male romance option that isn't an afterthought and a nobody character is like pulling teeth. (Andromeda. Idk about Veilguard.)
So they're not even doing woke well smh.
To be fair, it was more of a spin-off than a true sequel.
Andromeda was just a spin-off of the series. It doesn't touch the lore of the main line mass effect, so it doesn't really affect the previous game, unlike the vailguard that retroactively destroys previous lore.
To be fair to the Andromeda team: they only worked on ME3’s multiplayer before Andromeda and only had 18 months or so. Meanwhile Veilguard had damn near ten years. I can feel they at least attempted with Andromeda.
I enjoyed Andromeda for what it was and actually liked the cast. The easter egg if collected all Ryder's memories about the reapers and such is a nice touch too, but yeah, not even close to the original trilogy.
I can't fathom how he keeps calling it a 6, when he is giving a scathing review to pretty much all aspects of the game.
A 6 because it's sometimes pretty, and music is okay?
He's calling it 6 cause he's ignoring huge parts of the game that make it much worse. It's a weird mentality to be sure.
I don't understand the overall love for Dragon Age.
Origins was the best one and it was a 7/10 at best. The rest of the DA games are just trash. There has never been a DA Game even come close to ANY of the Mass Effect or KOTOR games.
"Destroy that franchise next" does he not remember Andromeda?
Andromeda was super disappointing without a doubt but it wasnt veilguard levels of bad.
@seanrookee it was pretty abominably bad
Andromeda had issues, but the gameplay was fantastic, and it didn't retcon/explain 90 percent of the entire franchise's lore to be fundamentally worse by explaining everything with "this game's villain did it". Mass Effect Andromeda didn't kill my hope for the next game like Veilguard did with Dragon Age.
@@vorbo01 agree to disagree. I still finished it and had a bit of fun with it. I'm not even gonna touch veilguard based on the crap I've seen. At the very least Andromeda didn't shove identity politics down my throat.
It was mid but its a spin off so im not that mad about it
A 3/10 was generous for the amount of pain he endured.
Angry Joe blows my mind, he's woke to the point that he supported Anita Sarkeesian and alienated all Trump supporters. Now hes reeling back at the consequences of his choices.
Taash is approaching the generator
At this point if Mass Effect fails too, Bioware will be closed down.
More like when it fails.
They should be done after this game... The sales were abysmal, wait until investors see their quarterly reports.. the layoffs will happen shorty
@randybobandy9828 The sales numbers are all over the place. I am hearing 1 mil in the first week and some j-off thinks it can pull 2 mil by now and 5 mil by the end of December.
They're screwed already
@@urekmazino6800 not really
I still can't believe no one thought portraying a non-binary character as a disgusting, harassing unhinged weirdo was problematic. That's not inclusive, that's just gross
1:05 WTF IS THAT MY EYESSSS
It's cringe 😂
Almost puked man
CRAWLINGGG
A 5 should be "it's alright give it a try"
Absolutely not, there are too many good games out there to spend your time and money on an average one. With that said, there are average games that can become guilty pleasures for some. Off the top of my head, one of mine would be Generation Zero. I wish I could recommend it to my buddies for coop but its not great...it just happens to scratch an itch or two.
@@frankieb9444 that¿s what it means to be a 5 (average) out of 10, not amazing but not specially bad, which is a reason why asmon giving it a 6 is so insulting
I agree on most points, although I don't understand why they struggled so hard with combat - especially with the Warrior class. I actually had to increase difficulty to maximum because enemies and bosses died so fast. I assume they haven't upgraded their gear and did the boss fights with underleveled weapons.
Asmon, play Origins. You will understand why he gave this a 3.
You seem to already understand, but understanding something is different than feeling the logic to your core.
From what I hear, if it’s a good game he’ll stop playing after a few hours and never touch it again. If it’s bad, he’ll complete it.
Origins is a pretty old game. There's a lot of modern fans that don't understand how advanced it was for its time, nor its roots in D&D. I don't think Asmongold would enjoy it.
I played origins, Its just a Keep moving, fights happen automaticly, And it got pretty boring for me. Just click Your skills without thought And you win. Its like a novel that interrupts reading with boring fights, But Thats just me
@@elunegracee absolutly not like this if you play above easy mode. Dragon age origins need prepartion and strategies for a lot of fights.
If you walked through left clicking and controlling nothing, that just mean you played in easy like my 13 old little brother did back then
ye i played on hard, But nice Try captain butthurt
They are talking about Mass Effect being next like we didn't already get the shit show that was Mass Effect Andromeda. SMH
Yeah Andromeda was so bad I quit gaming for 3 months
You're right, absolutely right. Mass Effect Andromeda's story was real weak. However, the combat in that game was some of the best I had ever played. Definitely in a Mass Effect game, and was truly the part they improved the most.
10:22 what happened my hot witch 😭😭😭
Bro even on doo doo Xbox 360 she looked better than that 🥴🥴🥴 (I also went and replayed origins quite recently and still facts)
Poor Joe. Respect for him calling it like he saw it. Mass Effect is doomed: the Veilguard team are working on it.
To be fair, there's a different director steering the ship for the next Mass Effect game, and they supposedly are bringing back veterans who worked on previous games. So, I don't think it's all doom and gloom quite yet. Plus, their team has the benefit of seeing what possibly didn't work with DA, and course correcting. The main worry at this point is if EA will even keep Bioware as a studio, or disband them because of DA:V's failure. Also, my own personal view is Mass Effect 5 or whatever it will be called, will probably be a mid to terrible game, but I I think there's possibly some hope for it.
@@ZeroShaneBob One director and promises of traditions does not a game make.
@@ZeroShaneBob Lol copium, doesn't matter who they bring in to make the game, HR is in charge at the end of the day and make the final say.
Game will be trash.
veilguard was so good, i spent 230 hours playing factorio this month.
Unfortunately, this game is not meant to be played on anything above the easiest difficulty. It doesn't become any harder, just more and more annoying and BORING.
Damn I gave it a 4/10 bro took no prisoners
Wtf do he mean "I fear they will destroy mass effect next"?
Did everyone forgot andromeda already?
yes
I think the hate on andromeda is abit too much.
Yeah it's not as great as ones before but it did make some fun changes like the dialogue wheel and combat. Plenty of the characters written well. Removing paragon and renegade is something they shouldn't of done.
@@zombiegamer234 Oh. We are already on the "actually it was never bad" part of the cope cycle?
We don't speak of the black sheep that is Andromeda. Mass effect ended with 3
@@Pers0n97 nope I enjoyed it when I first played it. It was alright. I'm not coping. I just have a different opinion. And if you think I like veilguard, well I wouldn't even touch it if it was free.
Dragon age gayguard is the ultimate woke garbage. They destroyed the franchise and the next is fable and mass effect. Forget those games gentlemen. The only thing that's left are the memories of the past games. R.I.P.
The video didn't come out when people were still coping and seething, claiming "it's not that bad" but after it'd been out a while and it was socially acceptable for him to call a spade a spade.
Iirc, when I was still subbed to AJ, he would always put out his reviews late, probably because he plays the games a lot before making his reviews.
AJ might not be The Act Ma'am.
for some reasons you can't give bad scores to some games around the release, without getting blasted in return
not bad as The Last of Us 2, but still terrible