The amount of patience and focus required to do this kind of repair just astronomical. I repaired a PS2 for a friends son long ago and I swore never to do it again. :) The traces were the same as thin as hair.
battery alkali is the gift that keeps on giving - you can repair a whole board only to find a year later a bunch more traces have been eaten up from underneath
That is such delicate work , I can't even see the individual traces looking through a strong magnifier and can't use a soldering iron because I end up burning my nose!!
From nothing to almost completely working in one day is no small feat. I don't doubt you'll get it the rest of the way there after a night's sleep and a fresh start. Very nicely done indeed. :)
Hey Luke.. another awesome video. I particularly like your troubleshooting videos. Your presentation is quite excellent so even viewers and fans that are inexperienced have a good shot at understanding what your doing and how you are thinking.. Bravo to you for that. Perhaps even more importantly, these kinds of videos give others what they need most.. the confidence to take the plunge and resurrect their own hardware. Thank you for all your efforts and for making one exceptional channel. :)
Very impressive work! I work as a computer tech and it makes me guilty about changing a motherboard when it has only a couple of bad capacitors! Very instructive, too! Keep up the good work!
Great video, Luke. I want to say thank you for making such interesting videos, despite the fact that I don't do this sort of thing (mostly i don't think I could). To compliment it, you give alot of content in each video, so we got to see it go from dead, to mostly working. could've easily been 3 or 4 videos, but you cut to the meat and gave a good presentation. Also, it was nice to hear just how long you were working at it. We don't get to hear that. Thanks, mate.
I can't recommend jeweler's glasses enough. I've come really close to fixing boards with trace issues, with one or two sketchy ones left over that my eye alone couldn't see. I bought a cheap pair of jeweler's glasses (eBay; $6) and I could see even the slightest imperfection in repaired traces. Seriously, grab a pair if you can. They really help.
Awesome Luke and I'm sure u will figure it out, if I'm working on something and it's driving me nuts, and It's not a rush job, i will let it sit for a bit, and come back with a fresh look on things, and I usually figure it out, or I will wake up in the middle of the nite having dreamed the answer LOL!
Absolutely awesome job Luke - inspiring for noob hardware fixers like me & others I'm sure. I really hope that you were expecting it to be that damaged,as there is nothing worse than getting stuff off people you thought was going to be at least in ok condition - but isn't......
I''m helping a buddy work on some vintage pinball table boards (mostly just re-capping). Unfortunately one had a battery bite the dust and... well, it's rough. I spent a few minutes doing continuity checks and it seems like the traces have survived... but I'll still (at least) have to de&re-solder a lot of ICs. It'll be a week or so until the caps arrive in the mail so I've got plenty of time to work up the courage and really start digging in. I figured in the mean time I'd watch some of your trace repair vids :D :P
Great Video Luke! I'm trying to fix several traces, just like yours. Thing is I have never done this before, I'd really like to see the part where you stop the camera and fixed the whole(where several traces were gone). You should have your own show, seriously!!! My eyes aren't nearly as good as yours, in fact mine are bad. Man you make it look so easy............ THANKS!
Damn man, I know I was talking to you recently about my recent purchase (the "Big Red" Neo Geo 6 Slot), Another awesome video man, and thanks for all the advice you gave me.
I've got a 6 slot that's watchdogging at the moment, it's being a real pain in the ass, I've replaced all the ram, fixed the WE and CE on the backup ram and it's still doing it. Once in a blue moon I'll get a work ram error but it's always the same and all the traces are now fine.
I have a question. I've seen people use trace "pens", that basically allow you to draw new traces on a circuit board with what looks like a marker pen. Have you tried those on jobs like these? in theory it would be easier than patching them with wires, right?
Luke, after watching your repair videos over time...i realized something. That also kinda put me in a panic, could those batteries that were eating away on those boards happen on regular consoles that have batteries as well? Like I know that the Sega Dreamcast was those. Can this form of damage happen to them too? And if so, what the heck do i do? I'm not accustomed to opening up consoles. I have a ton of retro consoles in my collection, notably my Sega Wondermega. Help! tell me what to do.
Hi Luke have you found out what area of the board is causing the graphical glitches yet? I have a very similar issue with my AES all the text is garbled, backdrops appear solid but sprites and foreground don't display properly. My console is in storage but would be good to know what chips\traces I need to be looking at. Cheers.
what type and grit of sand paper do u use to remove the solder mask i got a neogeo 5slot with damage traces right at the threw holes at ch10 i got connecter off and cleaned the solder used multi meter and found the traces are broke all at the threw holes on one section i was wondering how should i patch it should i just demask and use solder to join connecton or should i put wire on every pin and put them threw the threw hole with the conecter as well ?
I personally would use a fiberglass pen like the BRS-290.00. You can get a thicker one for faster work as well but the fiberglass works slower and more carefully than sandpaper. For the broken through hole I would perform a solder stitch. Run some thin wire through the hole and solder on both sides. Should still be room for IC (which you should socket anyways).
hi luke. i know you never answer the comments/ but i was wondering if you could check out a quick video on my channel about an mvs board i have with some traces that are corroded,i get a z80 error as of now! thank you
The amount of patience and focus required to do this kind of repair just astronomical.
I repaired a PS2 for a friends son long ago and I swore never to do it again. :) The traces were the same as thin as hair.
battery alkali is the gift that keeps on giving - you can repair a whole board only to find a year later a bunch more traces have been eaten up from underneath
That is such delicate work , I can't even see the individual traces looking through a strong magnifier and can't use a soldering iron because I end up burning my nose!!
A successful operation, Dr Luke. A few more broken traces, and it will be right as rain in no time!
Wow, I used to paint figurines and that required a lot of precision but here... awesome work and it plays!
All I know about gaming boards'n'stuff is from Luke's videos. I find these immensely interesting and entertaining.
Brought this beast back from the dead.I think its awesome you save classic games like this Luke.:)
From nothing to almost completely working in one day is no small feat. I don't doubt you'll get it the rest of the way there after a night's sleep and a fresh start. Very nicely done indeed. :)
The adventures of SuperLuke! Damn you've got some skill there!
Hey Luke.. another awesome video. I particularly like your troubleshooting videos. Your presentation is quite excellent so even viewers and fans that are inexperienced have a good shot at understanding what your doing and how you are thinking.. Bravo to you for that. Perhaps even more importantly, these kinds of videos give others what they need most.. the confidence to take the plunge and resurrect their own hardware.
Thank you for all your efforts and for making one exceptional channel. :)
It's people like Luke who help keep this hobby alive.
Very impressive work! I work as a computer tech and it makes me guilty about changing a motherboard when it has only a couple of bad capacitors!
Very instructive, too! Keep up the good work!
Great video, Luke.
I want to say thank you for making such interesting videos, despite the fact that I don't do this sort of thing (mostly i don't think I could).
To compliment it, you give alot of content in each video, so we got to see it go from dead, to mostly working. could've easily been 3 or 4 videos, but you cut to the meat and gave a good presentation.
Also, it was nice to hear just how long you were working at it. We don't get to hear that.
Thanks, mate.
after seeing this, anyone doubting what you can do luke, will be stuck doubt by you're adept skills! Nothing is improbable for lukemorse1!
I can't recommend jeweler's glasses enough. I've come really close to fixing boards with trace issues, with one or two sketchy ones left over that my eye alone couldn't see. I bought a cheap pair of jeweler's glasses (eBay; $6) and I could see even the slightest imperfection in repaired traces. Seriously, grab a pair if you can. They really help.
Awesome Luke and I'm sure u will figure it out, if I'm working on something and it's driving me nuts, and It's not a rush job, i will let it sit for a bit, and come back with a fresh look on things, and I usually figure it out, or I will wake up in the middle of the nite having dreamed the answer LOL!
Absolutely awesome job Luke - inspiring for noob hardware fixers like me & others I'm sure. I really hope that you were expecting it to be that damaged,as there is nothing worse than getting stuff off people you thought was going to be at least in ok condition - but isn't......
I''m helping a buddy work on some vintage pinball table boards (mostly just re-capping). Unfortunately one had a battery bite the dust and... well, it's rough. I spent a few minutes doing continuity checks and it seems like the traces have survived... but I'll still (at least) have to de&re-solder a lot of ICs. It'll be a week or so until the caps arrive in the mail so I've got plenty of time to work up the courage and really start digging in.
I figured in the mean time I'd watch some of your trace repair vids :D :P
Great work Luke. Its coming along nicely.
well dont luke glad you got it working and hopfully you can fix that last trace thats playing up on it
yeah dude you are a master of repair sir !
Great Video Luke! I'm trying to fix several traces, just like yours. Thing is I have never done this before, I'd really like to see the part where you stop the camera and fixed the whole(where several traces were gone). You should have your own show, seriously!!! My eyes aren't nearly as good as yours, in fact mine are bad. Man you make it look so easy............
THANKS!
Outstanding work Luke as usual !
wow. awesome effort mate. fingers crossed down the track this thing will be perfect to reward your efforts.
The glitch gremlin strikes again !!!! Man those lines !!
Very good soldering skills! I wish i were that good :)
Patience is a virtue... Luke is extremely virtuous. :)
Damn man, I know I was talking to you recently about my recent purchase (the "Big Red" Neo Geo 6 Slot),
Another awesome video man, and thanks for all the advice you gave me.
jesus luke your a miracle worker! i need to practice my soldering damn lol
you are genius! like your repairs so much :)
Incredible work man, seriously.
Well done thats some serious work.
wow, insane soldering skill!
you got some serious skills luke! well done bro!!!
Nice job getting it that far. Those traces are micro!
Maybe try leaving it on overnight and see if it does any good.
Great job Luke!
hey luke, i've been watching your vids for a while and decided to order a tekken 3 pcb. Got any tips for first time pcb owner?
like a boss as allways
I've got a 6 slot that's watchdogging at the moment, it's being a real pain in the ass, I've replaced all the ram, fixed the WE and CE on the backup ram and it's still doing it. Once in a blue moon I'll get a work ram error but it's always the same and all the traces are now fine.
really amazing dude!!! nice
you sir are either awesome or just nuts :P
amazing work Luke!
You are the master!
Awesome job man!
You must have the hands of a surgeon by the way!
Thank you Sir!
Bro, you are hardcore. Don't know how you do any of this in terms of taking your time and being careful. He's hardcore ! He's Hardcore!
Really amazing!
I have a question. I've seen people use trace "pens", that basically allow you to draw new traces on a circuit board with what looks like a marker pen. Have you tried those on jobs like these? in theory it would be easier than patching them with wires, right?
Man you are a axing at this stuff.
YOUR A FUKIN GENIUS
WYLD.H STODIOS *you’re*
I have been working on the same board with the same problem but to nowhere near this extent.
Nice one!
Luke, after watching your repair videos over time...i realized something. That also kinda put me in a panic, could those batteries that were eating away on those boards happen on regular consoles that have batteries as well? Like I know that the Sega Dreamcast was those. Can this form of damage happen to them too? And if so, what the heck do i do? I'm not accustomed to opening up consoles. I have a ton of retro consoles in my collection, notably my Sega Wondermega. Help! tell me what to do.
Time for a microscope and soldering tweezers.
Hey Luke. !! I have the same board and mine is stuck on that green screen at the beginning
When you turn on the machine.
Any thoughts?
wow nice job man
Use non-metallic nail polish to cover the exposed traces.
and if you pull out the battery and leave it without the board it works?
seems like a lot of work to get this one running again :S
Hi Luke have you found out what area of the board is causing the graphical glitches yet? I have a very similar issue with my AES all the text is garbled, backdrops appear solid but sprites and foreground don't display properly. My console is in storage but would be good to know what chips\traces I need to be looking at. Cheers.
Can you somehow put some kind of sealer over the traces to protect them once you get a board totally working again?
what type and grit of sand paper do u use to remove the solder mask i got a neogeo 5slot with damage traces right at the threw holes at ch10 i got connecter off and cleaned the solder used multi meter and found the traces are broke all at the threw holes on one section i was wondering how should i patch it should i just demask and use solder to join connecton or should i put wire on every pin and put them threw the threw hole with the conecter as well ?
I personally would use a fiberglass pen like the BRS-290.00. You can get a thicker one for faster work as well but the fiberglass works slower and more carefully than sandpaper.
For the broken through hole I would perform a solder stitch. Run some thin wire through the hole and solder on both sides. Should still be room for IC (which you should socket anyways).
Thats alot of responses luke! How do you even get time to respond to them?
THANKS MAN! SIGNED BAD EYES! :)
¡hola! migo
Also is there another part to this ?
I Pooted!
that's "struck dumb" lol
luke it isnt as bad as golden tee golf
Repair god anyone?
hi luke. i know you never answer the comments/
but i was wondering if you could check out a quick video on my channel about an mvs board i have with some traces that are corroded,i get a z80 error as of now! thank you
Wow, that took you only a day to get it up and running. Pretty darn good job.