lol 12 years later and I am finally referring to you John because I never trammed my machines up to now! They have been acceptable for years now but now my 770 needs to run some absolutely flat surfaces for a new customer. Figured it should be done correctly now! I know, I'm a half-assed hack, but I get by.
A tip: Don't touch the indicator or holder. Only move it by touching the spindle so as to not have potential to move the indicator. Having only .003 or .004 engagement will remove the necessity of lifting up the needle with your finger. (a larger probe ball also works). Appreciate all your vids. Very informative.
Just fyi, on a last word indicator as you were using to tram your mill with, those 'Tick Marks" are a 10th of a thousands. So 10 ticks would be 1 thousands of an inch. If you look at the face I should be marked .0001. Meaning 1/10 of a thousands. Nice mill as well, I am thinking of purchasing one early next year. Keep up the great vids.
True. I live very close to the Starrett factory in Athol, MA, and I know a few people in there, so I can get tools on discount or ever for free. The precision is most certainly worth it!
That's right, what I meant by not industry quality is overall it looks like it doesn't measure up to the needs of the fast paced manufacturing industry. I personally haven't seen any used in any non-home shops, and I also don't own one (yet). The way it needs to be leveled makes it look kinda 'mickey mouse'. But yes it is much cheaper and although I say it doesn't look like it's up to industry quality, I intend to buy one as a first machine to enter the industry...
I think the negativity toward tormach extends from the relative costs. If it was $5k for the premium package, nobody would say anything, but since it costs nearly $20k for the whole 1100 setup, stepping up to a Haas looks like the obvious move for someone using it in an environment other than prototyping
Whoops, I had some things added twice. $15k it is then. Personally, I'm up to about 11.5 on my 770. It's just turned out to be a very poor experience. I imagine the 1100 is a more dependable machine
I have been researching these mills and intended to buy one. This vid gives me concern. You've shimmed the x axis of the table perpendicular to the axis of the spindle. I don't know if the spindle is perpendicular with the table in y axis. The biggest problem would be if the spindle axis is not aligned with the z axis ways, in which case, shimming table and saddle ways could exacerbate an already aggravating issue. I would like to see NYC CNC follow this video up using an angle plate that he knows is square (maybe show it being checked with a cylinder square and indicator) and run the indicator up and down in z along the face of the plate to show the z axis is actually perpendicular with the table in x and y.
You do realize this video is ancient right? You're other going to get a follow-up video. He has moved on pretty far down the road. Reach out to Tormach to get your question answered. If you've essentially 'made up your mind's to buy one, then discuss your concern with them. If you get a crap answer, then move on. If you get an answer that makes sense, move forward.
lol 12 years later and I am finally referring to you John because I never trammed my machines up to now! They have been acceptable for years now but now my 770 needs to run some absolutely flat surfaces for a new customer. Figured it should be done correctly now! I know, I'm a half-assed hack, but I get by.
A tip: Don't touch the indicator or holder. Only move it by touching the spindle so as to not have potential to move the indicator. Having only .003 or .004 engagement will remove the necessity of lifting up the needle with your finger. (a larger probe ball also works). Appreciate all your vids. Very informative.
I am actually already a member on both of those forums. You're right, don't see anyone complaining about the Tormachs.
Great tip. Thanks! I haven't bothered to tram my mill since I was intimidated by the fime / effort. This should solve that problem.
Just fyi, on a last word indicator as you were using to tram your mill with, those 'Tick Marks" are a 10th of a thousands. So 10 ticks would be 1 thousands of an inch. If you look at the face I should be marked .0001. Meaning 1/10 of a thousands.
Nice mill as well, I am thinking of purchasing one early next year. Keep up the great vids.
Great video, also you sound exhausted.
Replicating this method to get my 1100m up and running with accuracy, thank you!
Please keep them comming. I'm new to cnc & I need to learn alot.Thank for the Vid!
so you mention in the video that this isn't the correct way to tram. Do you have a video or a link to what the correct way is?
great stuff,exciting for the fact that your attention to detail will result in some nice parts,machining's.
@ray5961 It's a dial test indicator. I recommend looking for a nice one on eBay used. They are much cheaper than buying new.
True. I live very close to the Starrett factory in Athol, MA, and I know a few people in there, so I can get tools on discount or ever for free. The precision is most certainly worth it!
You should invest in some Starrett indicators, they're top of the line, really
That's right, what I meant by not industry quality is overall it looks like it doesn't measure up to the needs of the fast paced manufacturing industry. I personally haven't seen any used in any non-home shops, and I also don't own one (yet).
The way it needs to be leveled makes it look kinda 'mickey mouse'. But yes it is much cheaper and although I say it doesn't look like it's up to industry quality, I intend to buy one as a first machine to enter the industry...
I think the negativity toward tormach extends from the relative costs. If it was $5k for the premium package, nobody would say anything, but since it costs nearly $20k for the whole 1100 setup, stepping up to a Haas looks like the obvious move for someone using it in an environment other than prototyping
Do you have a link to that nice sweep indicator holder? I'm having a hard time finding a nice one.
Whoops, I had some things added twice. $15k it is then. Personally, I'm up to about 11.5 on my 770. It's just turned out to be a very poor experience. I imagine the 1100 is a more dependable machine
@saunixcomp Hard to see in the video but it looks like a .0005 indicator to me
I have been researching these mills and intended to buy one. This vid gives me concern. You've shimmed the x axis of the table perpendicular to the axis of the spindle. I don't know if the spindle is perpendicular with the table in y axis. The biggest problem would be if the spindle axis is not aligned with the z axis ways, in which case, shimming table and saddle ways could exacerbate an already aggravating issue. I would like to see NYC CNC follow this video up using an angle plate that he knows is square (maybe show it being checked with a cylinder square and indicator) and run the indicator up and down in z along the face of the plate to show the z axis is actually perpendicular with the table in x and y.
You do realize this video is ancient right? You're other going to get a follow-up video. He has moved on pretty far down the road. Reach out to Tormach to get your question answered. If you've essentially 'made up your mind's to buy one, then discuss your concern with them. If you get a crap answer, then move on. If you get an answer that makes sense, move forward.
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Lol, well no problem.
I guess this is one reason why the machines aren't industry quality.