The Best Mill Tip You Will Ever Get --WATCH THIS ENTIRE VIDEO--
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- I have shared hundreds of insider tips to help make your work easier and better, but this one is pure gold. The entire video incrementally discloses the full scope of the tip. Watch this one all the way through so you don't miss any part of the process. Thanks and stay well.
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This is how I’ve squared up blocks for 25 years but you are the first I’ve seen do it on TH-cam. You are the man.
Its quick if you have the room for a full profile, but it does give solid reference surfaces.
so I'm in my sixties and decided to get a lathe and mill. If I had my days again I would have started there. It's guys like you that allowed me to learn these skills and I'm very grateful. Your skill level is amazing and such a good teacher.
I started 3 years ago & I’m 63. Tips like these have really made the learning curve less steep🤓
You are the absolute best teacher....I would say you missed your calling....but obviously you are teaching...
Me no less....how do I say thanks.
Joe please write a book on your tips and tricks
I would buy it
I would also buy.
Excellent idea!
Great idea
@@jody6121 X2!
I knew where you were going when you gripped it on tall parallels. You got me unawares when you put the single short parallel in. But it's simplicity is the key to the elegance. I'm telling you, man. You have the ability to make the complex understandable, and simple. WELL DONE!
Thank you.
I've done this technique for 30 years . Thanks for showing people that common sense still works .
Excellent!
Joe, you've done it again! Thanks from another Aussie. I don't have any formal training as a machinist, but who needs it when people like you share their insights and experience!
Please don’t ever stop making YTs. Thank you for so willingly openly sharing your genius.
Thank you, I will
That dead blow mallet you used to tap the part looks like a Snap-On with the interchangeable heads. I have one and I love it!!!!!
I almost tapped myself in the forehead with it after watching this!!! I can’t believe I didn’t think of this system!!! Wait a minute, yes I can. This is why I subscribed years ago, you are by FAR the best teacher I have ever had!!!!!
Thanks Joe!!! You never fail to “unloosen” my mind from the box!!!!
Love it.
Cheers 🍻 from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 eh? 😆
I was a toolmaker for 45 yrs before I retired. I never saw this method until now. Wish I had, it does look foolproof. Great Video!!
You must of been bloody useless then.
Glad you enjoyed it
Superb. The ‘universal’ use of a climb cut is terrific - so simple and so effective. I am not a machinist, and my wife thinks I’m crazy to watch these videos. She may be right, but I really enjoy understanding how things are made. Thank you!
Make her something awesome and she'll change her mind.
Fantastic! Don't understand why nobody else uses this technique. It's so simple and efficient.
You're right, "why didn't I think of that." I think you're selling yourself short being happy if this is the only thing we take from your videos as a palm-to-the-forehead foundational technique, but this is definitely one of them. I got more than one pttf ideas: 1) grabbing the material shallow distorts accuracy less, 2) creating the flats & squares right up front, 3) using the one Parallel off the one cut parallel & working from there, 4) reducing burrs by cutting inwards. Last, but not least, "real shops use air." I've been cautioned several times to not use air. I do so, but I've always felt guilty, that using air would force debris into the nooks of my machinery. I've only assuaged my guilt by keeping your videos in the back of my head, knowing you do it. "Time is money," & can't tell you how much money I've wasted on the dumbest of cuts. Watching your videos is like putting money in the bank.
Ya got me, Joe! Over 30 years and I've been using wires and BBs all this time. This is a keeper, buddy.
Glad you didn't have to unloosen anything this trip.... Woot!
Dean
Having never touched a milling machine or a lathe for that matter, till I bought them, I have learned on my own for several years...
... Then..
Joe P comes along... I think I learn more here then anywhere else...
At 66, I enjoy these videos very much...
Thanks....
O yes, same here. And just because online teachers like Joe, old Tony, Adam, we dare to do things we never would. Tis is a longtime dream comes true. Professionally I was a printer, my hobby is woodworking, now I'm retired. In the woodworking I did miss machining metal so I purchased a used lathe and milling machine. O boy, what is the learning curve steep. Thanks to TH-cam it now feels ok, I'm confident I'm doing fine.
Keep it coming 👏👏👏👏👏
🇧🇪 Belgium🇧🇪
I am not a machinist, just a hobbyist, but I can appreciate what your are saying. Thanks!
My copper wire just called the Russian mafia. They do not appreciate such productivity improvements, Soviet style was slower, and better for the labor force. Seriously, Joe you are some treasure chest of tricks!
I've been machining for over 20 years and I find your videos very interesting. And all of them are right on and some great tricks that I wouldn't have known unless I would have watched your video. I tell new machinists all the time to watch your videos very informative. Great job!!
Thank you very much. I appreciate the support.
I appreciate the tip. I've been doing it the "old" way for 50 years. I doubt I'll change at this point. Yes it is more efficient without a doubt.
Always learn a lot from your videos. In plant maintenance we rarely require such precision but increasing precision will increase life of parts so this knowledge is very valuable to me and my crew.
I have a very poor mill called a mill drill and I tried this and had the best results of anything I’ve tried. Thanks for the demonstration and tip.
Great job!
Joe used this technique to machine thousands of plastic parts to square as the axis of the machine defines the squareness and you can not tap down so easy with plastic, simple answer define XYZ without re clamping and totally agree without the climb cut your in the world of burrs! Various machine shops have shown me to dubious mill and vice combinations with cutters I would have junked but you still end up with definitively square finished components and your own square can stay out of harms way locked in your own box.
Superb filming and comments passing on gold dust technique.
Been milling for the past year on a Clausing and man I feel good watching your tips and knowing I've been doing pretty good. THANKS ALOT BUD
Love experienced people sharing what they know in a concise yet simple approach. Enjoy your channel for providing not only the “How” but, the “Why”!
Knowing the why, makes the how sink in much deeper.
Brilliant technique Joe. Thanks so much for sharing!
Old timer taught me that over 40 years ago. Works great and saves a ton of time.
There are thousands of machining videos out there and you still upload new methods. This was a good one.
As soon as I saw you run the perimeter I figured out what you were up to. Excellent time saver! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Joe! I'll be using this method from now on.
Good on you Joe. I think of all the machinist channels on TH-cam i have had more revelations about the smart way to do things from you than from anyone else. In fact i know that is the case... Great teacher, and great machinist which helps. Thanks for the videos
Awesome, thank you!
I second that.
I agree too... Joe has more gaming changing tips per minute of video than anyone else, and gets to the point faster in the process 😎
That's another real valuable lesson! Makes perfect sense. I had noticed on my last mill project the climb mill looked and felt better on the edge cuts. Thx Joe
As soon as I saw that haircut I knew this video would be a winner! Thanks for the great tips!
All your vidéos are encyclopédia for a starter in fine mecanic on machine, thank you so much for all I have learn with you dear professor.👍😉
Joe, you're an inspiration.
You and a number of others had inspired me to get a little lathe (In my apartment mind you!)
And since the start of the pandemic, i've been honing my skills in machining!
I've now been saving up for a benchtop milling machine, and I CAN NOT WAIT to get cutting!
Cheers.
Outstanding. Be safe.
I normally avoid videos with click-bait type titles, but I gave this one a chance because Joe is pretty good and it was worth it. Very nice tip
Love the straight forward analytic approach on all of your work Joe.
Hi Joe, I saw this video some time ago and went back to watch it again today as I needed to square up a block of steel for a part. It worked perfectly. I always try to give credit where it is due. I will reference this video in the next video I publish, which will show the squaring up process. Thanks again for this info and all of the other tips you have spent the time making videos for.
Glad it helped
As soon as I saw you use the tall parallels, I could tell what you were going to do. Like, DUH!
BUT it had never occurred to me in what, 40 years! Never too late to learn new tricks.
Excellent...I will remember this and use it next time with my students. Thank you from New Zealand.
Great tip! I (and everyone else who learnt it) will use this for a lifetime! Thanks Joe!
I'm a retired machinist and yet I learned a lot from you, thanks
Glad to hear it
Lol I don't know why I've never done this when I saw you set the part in the vise I knew exactly what you were gonna do yet I've never thought to do it that way great tip I will try this this evening 👍👍👍
Great video! THANKS JOE!
I watched it two times and am adding it to my TH-cam saved file for future reference. I have a very small home shop and made my living, before retiring, in industrial Electronics. So this info really makes milling more enjoyable as I am definitely a novice.
Thanks Joe taking the time to show this. I am new to using a mill and I found this to be an excellent idea. Tried it and it works for me.
Joe, I've.been watching your channel on and off since when you only had a few subs :) I have yet to watch one of your videos and NOT come away learning something that makes what I do as a hobby better or easier!!! Thank you so much for the time you spend making the vids - I know how hard it can be so keep up the great work mate :)
Thanks for hanging in for so long. Its much appreciated.
id say this is once again a great learning curve. what stood out is the sequence of cutting starting centres and move outward. if one has a mill but dont use it often id guess it helps for beginners and inbetweeners like me.will surely try it thanx. got nothing to loose when trying it
Its always good to have options and understand them.
I have used the clime cut for 30 years and it has always produced superior results. Thank you Joe.
Awesome...I never thought about squaring up a block this way.
Thanks Joe!
Excellent technique!! Thanks Joe
you clever bastard:) this channel is so underrated!!
Thanks Joe, just tried this technique.... worked an absolute treat.
You're right...I never thought of this approach. Thanks for the information.
I had a boss that wanted me to square up 3k parts doing the 1 side at a time method,totally stupid.I wrote a simple cnc program running it the way you described.I did this a few years ago and he thought I was a genius lol.It's really the best way to do it.
Not only is this a much faster method, I'm certain the part you squared will be more accurately done than the other methods using wire, balls, squares, etc. It would be interesting if you put this piece on your surface plate so we can see just how parallel the sides are. I've seen other presenters struggle to get a 3 inch square block of aluminum true to within .002". Thanks for sharing your expertise, acquired via years of experience.
Glad to show them. No point in taking them with me.
That is truly great. The best way to square a piece of stock I have ever seen. I am going to make a montage of screen shots with notes and hang it next to my mill until I practice it a few times so I will remember it.
Bravo!
Hi Joe, did it today old fashioned way and spent heaps of time on it, but tomorrow I will do way you show it! Thanks for tip it helps when all this is bush bashing experience for me. Cheers and thank you!
you mean i sat through a "that lazy machinist" video only last night pulling my hair out at how long it took him to explain squaring a block and then you drop this today ! that is awesome, i can now forget all that other long winded stuff and store this ! cheers Joe..
Nice to see someone who actually knows what there talking about, one of about 10% on you tube
Just did this for the first time. It's a great technique. I had a really rough bandsawn edge, and it cleaned up in seconds. Thanks for tthe tip!
Carl
Joe, I watch a lot of machining videos and yours are definitely the most informative. T O T may be funnier, but yours are pure gold.
Joe, just tried this to square up some stock, why on earth didn't you show me this earlier! :-) Really enjoying the videos and your wisdom, keep up the great work. (Craig, Scotland)
Another fantastic demonstration Joe, thanks for sharing buddy! 🤙👌
Hey Ray, Thanks for stopping by. Stay well and well away from the fires.
Joe I've had my lathe now for about 6 years , and I'm the one that is always telling you that I wish I had teachers like you years ago. You make learning very easy to understand and follow. I have just purchased my first milling machine to go along with my lathe and now I'm going back and watching all your milling machines videos on milling. Thanks again for all the information you put out for others to learn by.
Thanks for the comment.
Great vid! Just sent this to my son who is just now starting an apprenticeship in my shop!
Great new to machinist me and my 15 year old learning alot
great tips like always thanks from all us little guys
Thank you for the tips and techniques that you share. Valuable, workmanlike and appreciated.
Incredibly useful. I have 3 mills 2 medium WM18 from Warco. And a Denford micro mill.
I do lots of milling.
Thank you from Reading England. David and Lily.
There's a reason I enjoy your sharing of Knowledge From Experience; leave it as that.
I keep looking milling efficiencies and error reductions while I learn (thinking keeps it fun) andthis was a level up from what I've come up with on my own.
Good call back to the climb-milling/burr reduction, and thanks for keeping in the air blast in while reducing the volume. Nice video Joe; I enjoy the channel.
Amazing! Its so obvious when you explain it! Now i just need a mill.
Joe thanks a million for your videos, as a woodworker with an engineering shop, this is great education.
You my friend...are just as if not MORE inspirational to watch than even the professional " motivational speakers" and thats not even the goal of what you teach...! I can say with rock solid absolute certainty that you are as "real" as it gets. The bar stops dead in its tracks with you. Bingo Game Over You Win. Thank You for all that you are. Nuff said.
Thank you for the compliment. This trade has been my life and my passion. I'm happy to share many things I have learned the hard way.
Genius.
Hi Joe, I am an old guy that learned to use a lathe and a mill in 1965 in high school. I have worked as a machinist in a variety of jobs over the years. I was a set up man in a large industrial machine shop. I think your tips are awesome and you are incredibly smart for such a young guy. You are probably very close friends with some old guys. I don't understand these people that need to snipe at you for the dumbest reasons. The process you just demonstrated could easily be adapted to any situation whether it would be tool steel or lead. Don't let those disgruntled turds get to you and keep up the good work.
Art
I was lucky to always have older experienced machinists who rewarded my curiosity with patience. I learned so much from them.
I also saw them let the cocky new engineers who knew everything crash and burn. ( machinist: “Here’s your part “ Punk: “But that’s a bag of chips!?” Machinist: “Hey, you know what you’re doing, I just gave you what you asked for.”)
Treat people with respect, value what they have to offer and they will return the favor.
Boy did I struggle the old way. I'm going to try this. Thank You!!
Wow. All the knowledge and a great haircut.
Thank you.
Great tip but I would add that this technique is only as good as how well you've trammed your machine's head. Don't forget that critical part!
Yes, but you will get a perfectly square part even if the vise isn't indicated true.
@@joepie221
He didn't say vice, he said the head of the machine, and it is critical
30 years a mold maker and never saw anybody do this .If I only knew!
I don't want this thing off camera for a second. Nobody's gonna be able to complain about nothing! Someone still will find something to complain about. Great information as always. Thanks Joe.
You never know, some project manager, 'know it all' may find a reason.
Wow definately cuts the mucking about and just does the job at hand. Thanks joe
I've been doing it this way for my whole career. Except I try to finish the profile and only leave facing for the bottom. But it's really fun to watch someone do it the old school way, cut flip,cut flip ..... . And crap it's not square, start over!
I've been self taught and I just ended up doing this way because I didn't know "better". I didn't realize people actually mount the block multiple times. Sounds like a nightmare! The less I have to fiddle with the vise, the more I can trust the machine to keep everything straight.
How do I give multiple thumbs up??? Thanks Joe!
I'll gladly add my thumb to yours. 50-odd years machining then I see this!
Thanks, great tutorial. Became a journeymen machinist back in late 70's, got bored and went to university. Hope to retire soon and set up a little home shop.
I finally got out in the shop to try this it worked like a champ one thing I will note is with a lil longer skinnier piece added a second parallel just be sure I didn't have any tilt works awesome though way faster than the old way I will do this from now on thanks Joe much appreciated 👍👍👍
I gotta stop watching your videos, I've given myself a concussion from slappin my forehead.
I hate to bust your bubble but if you use a planer gauge, a roll pin and a tenth dial indicator, your going to find out that the finished block will indeed be all over the place out of square . I made parts for Kodak Cameras that had to be dead nuts square and to do that we ONLY use fly cutters, not end mills . First off you got to tram in the head of the mill dead nuts all the way around then you go at it the way you first described with a roll pin, and you fly cut each side and check with the planner gauge, indicator & roll pin on each side and from that you know witch side is out . Maybe only .0001out on only 1 side but the indicator will find it and show it and you re cut just that side with the fly cutter just enough to clean it up on just that 1 side.
Always a good machining tip from you, explained simply and clearly.
This is pure gold. Doubling my Patreon monthly right now. The amount of time saved this equates to, over a lifetime at the mill is worth it.
Thank you.
Now I can stop wasting lollipops. Cheers Joe.
Joe fantastic.. I was so sure after you did the first 5 sides you were going to flip and do the same again. Did I miss something ?.. is it not an accurate way to do it. Yes you would have to be accurate in the vertical amounts you removed . New to this. Such great content. Hope you got out on the bike this year a little 🙏👍👍
I think the problem there would have been getting the dimensions exactly aligned with the first op. Because you're cutting on all sides you can't use a vice stop, and because you're now removing material from the top section of the sides of the part, you can't easily get an edge finder in there.
Matthew Green I figured the same.. but I swear this man could cut a hair in two with his bare hands 😂🤣
@@drpipe I'm sure he could, but it's nice seeing techniques the rest of us could use :-)
Matthew Green superb engineer 👍
I am posting this video for the third time now. Do you mean something like this?
th-cam.com/video/6T4IvUF8cYU/w-d-xo.html
Great method. I have used this many times in the past on the ends of small stock. No messing with squares etc.
Never to old to learn.(I'm 60 y and machinist for 4y)
Keep it comming 👍👍👍👍👍
Well that was a basic 7th grade metal shop tip.
I was shown that over 40 years ago. Maybe I got lucky.
Way faster and better way...
Make dovetail jaws for the vice, cut dovetails in the block on two parallel sides. Clamp the block in the dovetails and make the part. Flip part, and shave off the back side. Part is 100% finished.
You can cut a block out, all out of square but as soon as you have two dovetails cut...nothing else matters.
I would be appalled if we hired the commenters praising this “breakthrough’” for more than entry level operator $. I assumed every shop in the world did this every day and posting a how to would get ridicule. Get a 5 axis and and this seems like 1940’s tips and tricks. We are not unique, just keeping up. Next lesson: the miracle of using 45 deg drill mills to deburr parts in machine…..doesn’t everyone do it?
Why did I not get taught this 60 years ago?
Thanks for showing a variation of a method an experienced tool maker showed me many years ago. Only difference is I usually see 4 sides saw cut, so we add a step or two for some extra precaution.
i´m always waiting to watch a new video of you Joe , thank you so much for sharing your infinite knowllege with us!
Does anyone else get the urge to answer his questions aloud with a firm YESSIR!!! ….and address him as Sarge?
I'll take that as a compliment. Now drop and give me 20.
Joe where did you learn all this stuff?!!
Thanks for letting us look over your shoulder once again,this one was really worth it,good common sense procedure.
I love your tips. I am really a hobby guy, but they are such good value. I teach engineering in a school, but the skills level we cover is pretty low. I love having industry tips to keep me relevant. Cheers.