Andre said he couldn't give Marinete and Cat Noir ice cream because they were friends, but I remember that in Wishmaker he makes an ice cream to represent Luka and Marinete's friendship when he appears and joins her, so either this is a plot hole or Andre lied on purpose because he didn't like to see Marinete and Cat Noir together 😅
Andre the ice man at this point is alarmingly concerned about minors relationships with eachother and if you think about it it is getting weirder by the minute.
Apparently, Marinette was supposed to get akumatized in this episode, but a writer said they could make a whole event out of it, so they delayed it to Season 6.
the worst thing is thats not the first time andre got akumatised because of his hatred to marichat thats the SECOND time and the third time in general because of marinettes love life in general this man needs help
I have to say, I'm enjoying that lb realises that if you reject someone very often, they move on and don't just stick around in case you change your mind. That cn realises how creepy it is when someone is constantly inappropriately flirting with you and how weird it is to be in love with someone, even though you don't even know what they look like. That Adrien realises that he should have noticed Mari sooner. And that Mari realises that she didn't love Adrien, she was just obsessed with the idea of Adrien. I never expected to say this, but well done miraculous producers.
Mari does love Adrien tho. She still does. She’s just trying to ignore those feelings after what happened with luka, she feels like she can’t be with a civilian, so she’s projecting her feelings onto chat noir. I believe she does like chat but she 100% loves Adrien.
I disagree that Ladybug rejected Cat Noir "too often". No one has to accept advances from someone they don't reciprocate those feelings with. 100% agree with the rest, though.
@@starsiadraws oh what I meant was that after all her rejection, cn got the hint and moved on. And he didn't wait for her to change her feelings and he didn't stick around to be treated like a plan B. But I agree with you, you can never reject someone "too often".
I find it funny the Chat Noir doesn’t want his celebrity/hero status to manipulate a fan even though as Adrien he still is a celebrity which Mari has admitted to also being his fan- 💀
yeah but its like adrien as cat noir doesn’t know that marinette actually knows him enough to like him, he actually believes thats shes just a super fan and we can clearly see how fed up he is with fans obsessing over him in this episode, so he feels like hes just taking advantage of her just idolizing cat noir and not actually liking the person underneath
Andre basically represents the fandom and their ships. So having a 50 year old be interested in the love life of teenagers is not out the ordinary given current fandoms.
Being a 17 y/o fan thinking about something so sinister makes me look at the fandom, of which I thought would be with people my age +/- 6 years, a little different :(
Everything that happened at the beginning of the episode was premeditated, Marinete keeps telling Cat Noir that she's his biggest fan, and during the beginning of this episode he was chased and surrounded by fans from his both sides, and in previous episodes, he shows fear of what people can do with his digital model of the alliance, so his reaction to the kiss and the justification being that Marinete is a fan has a lot to do with everything he went through, and what he says later about confusing admiration with love is also consistent with everything he's seen his fans do, he wants Marinete but all she says is that she is his fan and that makes him worried and his bad memories involving fans don't help, not to mention the danger she'd be in being with a superhero and the fact that she doesn't know who he is and from his perspective doesn't know him well because he's never seen her much as Cat Noir and doesn't know she's Ladybug.
Yup and that's why he refused to be with Marinette. Because of the power dynamic between a superhero and a civilian. Of course this would ALL be avoided if they knew each others identities, but of course, they can't do that until Monarch is defeated. But that's what makes angst so good! The only love square ship that could REALLY work at this point in time is Adrien and Marinette. Because they'd both run off to save the day whenever a villain would appear, avoiding any random ghosting situations that could occur like in Lukanette and Adrigami. Ladybug and Cat Noir can't work because they'd babble their secret identities. And clearly Marichat can't work because of all this power dynamic angst and misunderstandings from both sides (Marinette is projecting her feelings for Adrien onto Cat Noir since she can't be with a civilian, and same for Adrien except he just noticed Marinette and moved on from Ladybug. Also he thinks shes a regular civilian but of course, she knows him quite well as Ladybug).
I used to think that adrien liked being cat noir so he didn't have to deal with all the downsides of being a model, but that scene in the alleyway makes me feel bad for him. He doesn't get a break in or out of the costume and what's worse id that you never see LB getting swarmed by people when trying to detransform.
I love how marinette and cat noir can be goofy together. With the mask its usually just cat noir holding up the goofy, and without cat noir, marinette just does her whole clutzy silly face fiasco. So when they did that cringy wave thing on the balcony I knew how perfect they were for each other. They bring out the best in them.
The love square is hillarious. They are in middle school, so I can excuse most of the cringe 🤣. Not all of it, but being the oldest sibling of many teenagers, the cringe romance in this episode was pretty realistic. Sad but true.
@@scaramouche7210 In France, 14 is in middle school age range. Students start middle school in France at age 11 and end between ages 14 and 15, so the characters here are in their last year of middle school.
Didn’t Adrien’s fanboy character(I forgot his name) have like an episode where he realizes adrien is a human being and doesn’t want him screaming at him and running? Wtf happened with that, did he just forget ??
This is legit my favorite review of this season yet. And i subsequently agree that Marinette being akumatized and subsequently saved by Alya and Adrien would have made a better finish to the episode then what actually happened in the episode. i used to think Andre the ice cream man was mostly harmless and wasn't secretly slightly misogynistic and i personally preferred him like that.
While it would be awesome to have Marinetter akumatized and Scarabella back, wouldn't it be too obvious who Ladybug is if when this one girl gets akumatized someone else is doing Ladybug's role? I know Gabe is a smooth brain but c'mon!
@@banjiroxtr3237 while it would present a problem for her secret identity, she has fooled old smooth brain Gabe before. like in the episode where Alya borrowed the ladybug miraculous yet she was the one who partially solved the problem. Yet Gabriel doesn't think about the fact that Marinette leaving right as a new "Ladybug" hero shows up on the scene might not be a coincidence.
@@banjiroxtr3237 I honestly think all Scarabella would have to do is shout "LADYBUG'S OUT OF TOWN!" in front of Cat Noir and akumatized Marinette and maybe smooth-brain Gabe wouldn't even think of it
Honestly when Gabe didn't think to like- look for when ladybug and chatnoir would go to detransform when he had the chance instead of just trying to fight them when they have their powers, I officially realized he's p smooth brained
Not going to lie, the animation on Marinette shaking after being almost akumatized is actually amazingly done. You can see her shock and fear of almost falling under Gabriel's control.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian wasn't plagg supportive and TRYING to get Adrien to give up on ladybug to be with Marinette? Especially for the baked goods
What I hate about this season is that Marinette is still giving out the charms to keep people from being akumatized, even though she gave one to "Gabriel" like last season yet he still got akumatized in this season. Like, maybe realize it may not be as effective as you think Marinette. Also I fully agree on the Marinette should have been akumatized plot line this episode could have had. There's been multiple episodes where she's incredibly depressed which is the prime example of when she should or could be akumatized yet Gabriel just ignores it. Like the episode where she wanted to give up being Ladybug and hand herself over to him. But no, the rejection of Chat Noir in this episode is enough to get her to almost be akumatized. It just doesn't make sense.
It was a really good review, I really enjoyed this episode. Just a tiny reminder: at 0:40, ladybug was not kissing cn without his consent. In this context, she was just giving him "la bise" (it's a way to greet your close friends in France by kissing each others' cheeks), she just exagerrated a little bit by giving him too many kisses, but it isn't considered as a kiss for expressing one's romantic feelings.
If it wasn't for the should-be-arrested fans and Andre being a toxic shipper, i would rate it 10/10. I usually hate romance focused episode, but this one made me scream
I'm surprised you didn't talk more about how Andre literally told the truth to Adrien to his face. Like so far everyone else in this series has danced around the topic with him but the ice cream man just straight went and did what fans waited for so long. Does it change he's a creep not really But I still think it's good to finally let that bombshell drop for him. So now he isn't so clueless and can probably reflect on some of the past episodes like he ought to.
So glad I'm not the only one seeing Alya becoming a permanent resident of the bakery. Which is also funny bc we saw her, nino and the sister (I forgot her name) hanging out a lot at home that one episode. Has she not noticed 😭
You know, i gotta say i think Ladybug's creeping on Cat noir was actually worse then Cat Noir. He always maintained a respectful distance and while He flirted a lot and asked her out a lot, and often went in for a kiss... a lot. He never actually touched Her and Ladybug often flirted back or played along. Ladybug though... She kisses him a whole bunch of times and tries to go in for more and She directly comments on His physical appearance several times and Cat Noir just Ignores it entirely. This is after She's rejected Him for 4 seasons too. It reeks of a lack of self awareness. I doubted She would stay like this for too long of course, can't have Ladybug with an outstanding flaw for too long, but it's kind of Annoying that Cat Noir was allowed to do this for 4 season straight with no real growth, as if Men are mentally slow or something and can't take a hit after the first 3 times.
Yeah, Ladybug going after Cat Noir like this seems kinda worse than when it was the reverse. He would be annoying and distracting, but he was also be a hopeless romantic. Flowers, compliments on both physical and personal traits, being there as a friend. He pushed a bit, but a quick word and discussion would normally set him right. Especially since he often got some kind of consequence for going too far sometimes, even if it’s over exaggerated for entertainment effect. With Ladybug though, it just comes across as creepy. I think it doesn’t help that early Marinette was very creepy in the way she crushed on Adrien, and some of that leaks into Ladybug now. It’s hard for me to cheer for Mari/LB right now because she really did just transfer her obsessive feelings from one person to another. CN also has the backstory of being Adrien, who is bad at social cues and is trying to learn the best he can. But Mari doesn’t really have that excuse, as she could get solid advice from her parents or something. It’s almost like they wanted to explore that hero/civilian relationship dynamic, but stuck with CN and Mari because he’s a guy with the status. Which makes the audience more alert to this power dynamic as it’s more common and often (for good or bad) overly scrutinized.
What made it awful was Andrè refusing to give them icecream, friendship icecream is out of the question also except with Luka and Marinette when Andrè finds out who Cat Noir and Ladybug are it's all going to make sense
How is Andre the most popular ice cream man when he doesn't even sell you ice cream if you go against his ship. Also I didn't think about how perfect this episode would have been for akumatised Marinette but now I'm sad we didn't get it. Let her be akumatise dammit.
THE POWER MARICHAT HOLDS. It was the first kiss in this show that both ppl remember and isn't from a dream or a what-if episode (we don't talk about pupeteer 2). I hate andre so much. The first time he got akumitized, I know Marinette was a little rude to him, but he was so pushy in something that wasn't his business. The second and third time however annoy me so much
When Marinette snapped in the episode I felt that because, I've been there where people would choose and make decisions for me when I was younger and I still have a hard time making decisions now because of that. And there's a reason why Hot Dog Dan was in the wedding in the Jubilation dream as we saw in this episode.
The funny thing is the idea for this episode was entirely taken from the fandom. I could list a whole bunch of ao3 fics released years ago that basically have the same premise. What tf are the writers actually smoking 😭
Exactly! I've been reading this kind of fics for like 2 years now. Pretty sure I've seen thousands of Marichat fics where they hang out fall in love and make out. I've also seen fanfics where LB falls for Chat and he says he likes someone else and she cries. And also Adrienette fics where he falls for Mari but she keeps thinking of Chat. The Whole season is just fanfictions coming to live.
The biggest crime of this show is everyone regarding Andre as this big sweetheart that everyone loves when he’s genuinely one of the most annoying characters. He’s caused nothing but problems whenever he’s in the story and is such a creep that cares way too much about the love lives of teenagers. I just can’t believe he’s this big lovable guy when all we ever see of him is disaster because the children he’s known for five minutes aren’t with the children he thinks they should be with.
OMG samee! I like Mari chat, but it’s hypocritical for marionette to reject the guy she spent 4 GOSH DANG SEASONS CHASING AFTER. She has no idea what she’s passing up, I hope the writers make things write and finally get those two together. As a hopeless romantic, I would literally KILL to have a guy fawn over me the way Adrien fawns over marinette😭💓
As a huge Marichat fan since S1. I’m glad they got to be their natural selfs and wasn’t expecting them to kiss. If this wasn’t a kid show they would have been hot & heavy on one another. I know in the fandom we see them as a sin ship but wasn’t expecting them to be a cute/fluff ship
_"Yeah he's gonna die" You might think its too wrong but Gabe dying only concerns me about Adrein, I can feel a sharp pain in my heart, There's no way he can be saved.. And.. Adrien will probably know he was the one who caused it.. Damn just being your farther's enemy is so much more than enough. That's dark.. But.. Yeah I'm so excited for the story to get to that point~
The darkest things about Adrien, being his father's archenemy (or second because of LB) and potentially his father's murderer...and yes I know the second one is accidental, but still. Maybe the writers will have Gabe just lose his arm instead of straight up killing off their main villain
I still waiting for Adrain to tell Nino that he is Catnoir. In the episode rocktear, the scene right before Nino is akumizteds, was the perfect moment for Adrian to reveal his secret identity to Nino, but nope. I hope, I don’t have to wait for season eight for this to happened.
Andre gotta be one of the most.... randomly unhinged characters in this show. Imagine losing your shit and not serving your ice cream to someone, because they aren't currently on a date with the person you shipped them with. This man needs jesus 🤦🏿♂️
I did like the episode and I do like your idea with Scarabella, but I'm ready for the romance plot to be put on the back for a few episodes. I feel like we've had too many episodes focussing on the different ships between Marinette and Adrien and their hero personas, and not enough focus on the actual plot of the season. The hero team isn't any closer to getting the Miraculous back, they haven't looked into Felix since episode 2 at all, other characters haven't been relevant for the entire season (apart from Alya, Nino and Kagami). I do like that the season has even more of an overaching story then season 4, but I would like some more variety then just the romance stuff
I know this is the wrong episode, but I just realised: in Passion, Nathalie uses the power of the Goat to create a crossbow that can use miraculous powers. But in Penalteam, didn’t they say the goat can’t make things that are actually magic?
I think it was the alliance ring that stored the powers and Nathalie just equipped the crossbow's arrow with the powers. Just like Glaciator used the tiger on his ice-cream-shots
I really wanna re-state the fact that they’re like, what, 15 or 16? This would be crazy for an adult to go thru, let alone a TEEN. Just makes me laugh a bit lmao
Honestly, I really enjoy the Marinette x Chat dynamic way more then the other ship pairings. Because with Ladybug x Adrian they are both are wearing masks and not being their true selfs, plus the whole over obsessing thing gets annoying. With the Labybug x Chatnoir, it's always one sided relationship. Same with Adrian x Marinette, and plus Adrian is Chat's mask so Marinette for most of the early season is falling in love with a lie. Sort like how Bruce Wayne is Batman's mask. But with Chat Noir x Marinette, we see their feelings for each other blossom. Starting out as like just friends that like each other's alter egos not knowing it's them. To like a true relationship, that feels real. Honestly, one of the things I wish MLB did more was build more on the Chat Noir being the true side of Adrian. Like just imagine, something happens one day that makes Adrian so pissed that he actually can't take it anymore and spends multiple days and nights as Chat Noir. Like, a Adrian's breaking point episode. Obliviously this would have to be set up, and probably would have worked better last couple seasons but still.
What if she used the supposed power of unmasking on monarch. Scarabella saves marionette and it’s a whole new plot line of hiding the secret from Adrian. She would have to renounce and admit but monarch does not know who scarabella is. Wouldn’t really be miraculous ladybug then. Don’t think I would be into it. Fun idea for a fan fic
Your commentary is always so funny. I get excited when a new episode comes out less for the actual show and more because I know you'll make a video about it to potentially redeem the experience 😭
fr like it’s so embarrassing like girlie please stop invading his personal space, it’s not cute. why must people behave this way around celebrities like they are people too.
Smarty Pants: Robotnick... Me: *Starts laughing uncontrollably*. My mind: It's Robustus. Smarty Pants: Or whatever his name is. I think it was Robustus.
I'll admit it was good seeing CN getting a taste of his own medicine with LB 😂😂, I also feel bad for LB but that's karma for rejecting him too many times and yep CN he's oblivious have been reversed towards LB now. To be honest I'm happy Marinette was shutting up Alya cause if you think about Alya always pushes her into uncomfortable positions when it comes to confessing to Adrien. Andre should mind his own business who made him in charge of the love department no one. Yea I ain't buying it Adrien is still carrying romantic feelings for LB even though he said friends that ain't 100% true. not only Marinette is running away from her feelings he is too. I know right Marichat kiss was soo damn beautiful I watch that scene on repeat 🤣🤣
You're making me want to watch the episodes again. Also this one is a good episode, it would be much better if Alya and Chat noir team up to save Marinette. It would make for a much better episode
While watching I also thought about Marinette getting akumatized this episode and having Alya make a return as Scarabella. I got excited for a moment thinking the writers were actually going to go for it, but then when Andre ended being the one akumatized, I just shook my head. Andre is so toxic. It was a good episode otherwise.
They can’t akumatize marinette because if that happened she will eventually reveal her secret identity even if she didn’t have the earrings, also she knows who scarabelle is…
"will a boy ever love me" Over the course of the series, Nino, Luka, Nathaniel, and Adrien/Cat Noir have all had feelings for Marinette and Adrien/Chat Noir and the sculptor guy have had feelings for Ladybug.
I think one of worse detail about Andre is he said "yes yes ı know your lines" to the monarch. So just like Chloe and Leila this dude had consent about akumatize
Andre needs to be chased out of Paris. He's a complete and utter asshole! Not to mention how invested he is in teenagers' love life. The dude's a massive creep! Also, we stan Adrien/Chat Noir for having standards even though it ruined the moment of beauty 😭😭😭 Kwamis Choice is next! I'm so excited!!!
@@kainightshade5033 Doesn't help that he's so obsessed with people's relationships. Let it go, Dude! I don't care what your Strawberry Ice Cream foretold you! Honestly, comparing Andre to Shippers would almost be insulting. Because most reasonable folks know that you shouldn't ship real people. It's weird.
@@johannesseyfried7933 YES! and you know what else? He wastes all that time focusing on other people's relationships, especially kids, ever wonder where HIS partner is? Yes, He or she was smart and ran from his creepy ass
@@kainightshade5033 I mean....Andre *could* be ace.... Not that it would change much about his weird attitude. Or his even weirder Business. I like the Idea behind it, but I doubt it earns him much Money.
Andre really lost many people in their eyes in this episode. Yeah she did sell ice cream to platonic friends before. Overal Andre really has some problem with Marinette XD She was the reason he was akumatized for the first time. Then in Glaciator he hated that she was hanging out with Chat noir so he got akumatized again. Then for the third time he noticed that Chat noir actually responses to Marinette's flirt in romantic way as well so he lost it XD I would say Andre is MariChat #1 hater XD He did gave his ice cream to just friends. At this point I think he just added another rule because it's MariChat and he is just hating it so he refuses and tries to cover with nonexistent ,,only lovers" rule.
Miraculus is not a hero show ,is a teen drama show XD This season alone have so much step up come to previews ones where all were give at the end of season , only took 100 eps
The amount of people that I saw in comments having come back to miraculous after this episode probably stopping after season 3. Being so confused about what was going on ,and what on earth was happening with miraculous was so funny to me. Anyway time to talk about the episode it was good had some great moments and some funny moment too. Like I can ignore the animation, but one of the errors made me laugh you can see it if you pause at 9:19 in this video, his eyes will always make me laugh. They are great animation team, 10/10. Anyway this episode was good, and could make way for future episodes to come with Gabe going after Mari now. I would give it an 9/10 just because some of the moments are frustrating but other that were really good 🙂
Honestly. I wouldn't be so surprised if he and Marinette became world class bakers in a new city away from Paris to set up shop and have their own retirement home after Marinette renounces being the guardian in favor of Alix, and he and Marinette retire from their superhero gigs because Adrien wouldn't be allow to truly be happy and together with each other as long as their Ladybug and Cat Noir and need to A) recover the miraculous of the butterfly and peacock after Felix and Lila become the next main co-antagonists of the show and B) to find another worthy successor of taking up the role as Guardian of the miraculous
Man I'm sorry, but I always wanted more of your feelings on thr statue scene. I completely get how you feel about it. Why is that the moment he realized Marinette is amazing!?!??!
Wasn’t Andre there watching marinette and adrien feed their kwamis the potion things, straight up abandon their partner, transform and dive into the water? Andre is just trying to rip them apart in both forms, maybe he’s working for monarch
1:10 those character models look out of place next to each other, like they're from different shows or smth in addition to the fact that it looks like they are both looking at something behind the other instead of making eye contact like you would expect in that context. It's something that always bugged me. The main characters had real hair while background characters had play-dough hair even when interacting with a main character. I get why but it still bugs me.
Okay, just had a thought. They don’t know each other’s ages right? So if Cat Noir was actually 40 (marinette is 15 I think?) he would probably go to jail because of youknowwhat. Dude, Marinette, make better choices lmao, could’ve sent him to jail if he wasn’t secretly your same age
Two things for this episode (wich i really liked): 1. Adrien transforming only a few steps ahead of his fan horde isn't such a good idea in my opinion. It's way to risky for him to see them, that he transforms into Cat Noir and making pictures of it or posting this gigantic news, that Adrien Agreste is Cat Noir, on social media. But again: Plot Armor saves him 2. I know, it is a kids show... but is it just me, or did someone else thought, while Mari and Cat Noir kissed heavily in front of the statue, that they were very close stripping each other and making out in public? I mean, they're teenagers and their hormones should be running wild at this time and with this action^^
Andre said he couldn't give Marinete and Cat Noir ice cream because they were friends, but I remember that in Wishmaker he makes an ice cream to represent Luka and Marinete's friendship when he appears and joins her, so either this is a plot hole or Andre lied on purpose because he didn't like to see Marinete and Cat Noir together 😅
The latter seems more likely given the entire situation
Andre the ice man at this point is alarmingly concerned about minors relationships with eachother and if you think about it it is getting weirder by the minute.
And he would make one for kagami and marinette as friends when the two of them went with Adrien
The other option is that Andre canonically has an OTP and considers marichat against his adrienette and ladynoir otps
yea cuz IT WAS FOR MARINETTE and luka, he doesnt want to give it to marinette and chat cuz he ships LADYBUG with chat, he doesnt care about mari tbh
-"Marinette is dead, Alya takes the earrings off her corpse, the show is over"
I CAN'T BREATHE 🤣🤣🤣
Nah fam if’s the “Alya has her Come to Jesus moment” that sent me.
I would really like to see an akumatised Marinette and Alya coming in for the rescue.
We all know there would be some bunnix ex machina to revive marinette
I'd pay to see that ending instead of Adrien and marinette walking off into the sunset together at the end of the show
This was sooo good
I guess they didn't realize it was a bad idea to go get ice cream with the guy who's been akumatized more than twice because of their romance? 😅
You'd think he'd learn from the first time not to ship actual people and get upset when that ship when doesn't go his way. But nope.
@JayxiumYT [JYT] When Adrien got akumatised, that time line was erased..
Apparently, Marinette was supposed to get akumatized in this episode, but a writer said they could make a whole event out of it, so they delayed it to Season 6.
If they actually do that and pull it off, I'll be impressed. It's such an interesting concept that shouldn't be a one-off thing
I’m pretty sure s5 is the last season cause hawk moth gets revealed at the end of this one
@@holo-star7097 But there's supposed to be a new Hawkmoth in the future
@@holo-star7097 there will be an another hawk moth it was said in the timetagger episode I believe
@@holo-star7097 But do t they have plans for up to 12 seasons?
the worst thing is
thats not the first time andre got akumatised because of his hatred to marichat thats the SECOND time and the third time in general because of marinettes love life in general
this man needs help
A real Marichat hater
He needs to go In a hospital
I have to say, I'm enjoying that lb realises that if you reject someone very often, they move on and don't just stick around in case you change your mind. That cn realises how creepy it is when someone is constantly inappropriately flirting with you and how weird it is to be in love with someone, even though you don't even know what they look like. That Adrien realises that he should have noticed Mari sooner. And that Mari realises that she didn't love Adrien, she was just obsessed with the idea of Adrien.
I never expected to say this, but well done miraculous producers.
People have been calling Marinette out for years
Mari does love Adrien tho. She still does. She’s just trying to ignore those feelings after what happened with luka, she feels like she can’t be with a civilian, so she’s projecting her feelings onto chat noir. I believe she does like chat but she 100% loves Adrien.
@@Zvwry more of obsession but yes she still has feelings for Adrien
I disagree that Ladybug rejected Cat Noir "too often". No one has to accept advances from someone they don't reciprocate those feelings with. 100% agree with the rest, though.
@@starsiadraws oh what I meant was that after all her rejection, cn got the hint and moved on. And he didn't wait for her to change her feelings and he didn't stick around to be treated like a plan B.
But I agree with you, you can never reject someone "too often".
I find it funny the Chat Noir doesn’t want his celebrity/hero status to manipulate a fan even though as Adrien he still is a celebrity which Mari has admitted to also being his fan- 💀
yeah but its like adrien as cat noir doesn’t know that marinette actually knows him enough to like him, he actually believes thats shes just a super fan and we can clearly see how fed up he is with fans obsessing over him in this episode, so he feels like hes just taking advantage of her just idolizing cat noir and not actually liking the person underneath
Andre basically represents the fandom and their ships. So having a 50 year old be interested in the love life of teenagers is not out the ordinary given current fandoms.
Being a 17 y/o fan thinking about something so sinister makes me look at the fandom, of which I thought would be with people my age +/- 6 years, a little different :(
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@@g.e.m.gdynamight7613 lmao i get it the show started 6-7 years ago so youre like in the normal age group
@@g.e.m.gdynamight7613 The show came out when i was 16. I'm in my 20s now 💀
With the exception that the fandom isn't willing to commit murder for it
The fact that Alya has her own mattress now in Marinette’s room lol
She must sleep there and talk to tikki about marinette's love life
Everything that happened at the beginning of the episode was premeditated, Marinete keeps telling Cat Noir that she's his biggest fan, and during the beginning of this episode he was chased and surrounded by fans from his both sides, and in previous episodes, he shows fear of what people can do with his digital model of the alliance, so his reaction to the kiss and the justification being that Marinete is a fan has a lot to do with everything he went through, and what he says later about confusing admiration with love is also consistent with everything he's seen his fans do, he wants Marinete but all she says is that she is his fan and that makes him worried and his bad memories involving fans don't help, not to mention the danger she'd be in being with a superhero and the fact that she doesn't know who he is and from his perspective doesn't know him well because he's never seen her much as Cat Noir and doesn't know she's Ladybug.
Yup and that's why he refused to be with Marinette. Because of the power dynamic between a superhero and a civilian.
Of course this would ALL be avoided if they knew each others identities, but of course, they can't do that until Monarch is defeated.
But that's what makes angst so good!
The only love square ship that could REALLY work at this point in time is Adrien and Marinette. Because they'd both run off to save the day whenever a villain would appear, avoiding any random ghosting situations that could occur like in Lukanette and Adrigami. Ladybug and Cat Noir can't work because they'd babble their secret identities. And clearly Marichat can't work because of all this power dynamic angst and misunderstandings from both sides (Marinette is projecting her feelings for Adrien onto Cat Noir since she can't be with a civilian, and same for Adrien except he just noticed Marinette and moved on from Ladybug. Also he thinks shes a regular civilian but of course, she knows him quite well as Ladybug).
Andre seems really creepy to me. The way he gets pissy about the love lives of teenagers is unsettling.
As Haze Clark said, Andre is the embodiment of “I will go down with this ship”
We don't talk about that obsessed TH-camr.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian Says the troll who is obsessed with a ship that is never gonna sail again 🙄
@@kayo4344correct, Adrien x Zoe is NEVER gonna happen
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDoopliviani bet u r just mad that she doesn't like kagami💀
Yes but Andre is practically sinking his own ship
I used to think that adrien liked being cat noir so he didn't have to deal with all the downsides of being a model, but that scene in the alleyway makes me feel bad for him. He doesn't get a break in or out of the costume and what's worse id that you never see LB getting swarmed by people when trying to detransform.
I love how marinette and cat noir can be goofy together. With the mask its usually just cat noir holding up the goofy, and without cat noir, marinette just does her whole clutzy silly face fiasco. So when they did that cringy wave thing on the balcony I knew how perfect they were for each other. They bring out the best in them.
EXACTLY
The love square is hillarious. They are in middle school, so I can excuse most of the cringe 🤣. Not all of it, but being the oldest sibling of many teenagers, the cringe romance in this episode was pretty realistic. Sad but true.
There in highschool actually.
@@forever.l.a59414 theyre 13 14 15 16 around these ages not too far off
they are in high school i think, i am 15 in the second grade of high school so my first grade i was 14
@@prettylife6086 they are 14
@@scaramouche7210 In France, 14 is in middle school age range. Students start middle school in France at age 11 and end between ages 14 and 15, so the characters here are in their last year of middle school.
Didn’t Adrien’s fanboy character(I forgot his name) have like an episode where he realizes adrien is a human being and doesn’t want him screaming at him and running? Wtf happened with that, did he just forget ??
Wayhem. And for the show writers to ruin his character. Show writers are mega dead.
This is legit my favorite review of this season yet. And i subsequently agree that Marinette being akumatized and subsequently saved by Alya and Adrien would have made a better finish to the episode then what actually happened in the episode. i used to think Andre the ice cream man was mostly harmless and wasn't secretly slightly misogynistic and i personally preferred him like that.
While it would be awesome to have Marinetter akumatized and Scarabella back, wouldn't it be too obvious who Ladybug is if when this one girl gets akumatized someone else is doing Ladybug's role? I know Gabe is a smooth brain but c'mon!
@@banjiroxtr3237 while it would present a problem for her secret identity, she has fooled old smooth brain Gabe before. like in the episode where Alya borrowed the ladybug miraculous yet she was the one who partially solved the problem. Yet Gabriel doesn't think about the fact that Marinette leaving right as a new "Ladybug" hero shows up on the scene might not be a coincidence.
@@banjiroxtr3237 I honestly think all Scarabella would have to do is shout "LADYBUG'S OUT OF TOWN!" in front of Cat Noir and akumatized Marinette and maybe smooth-brain Gabe wouldn't even think of it
Honestly when Gabe didn't think to like- look for when ladybug and chatnoir would go to detransform when he had the chance instead of just trying to fight them when they have their powers, I officially realized he's p smooth brained
@@ItsMinnowSeasonI mean that’s kind of the point of Optigami right?
Tikki really showing her true spots this season
Good one 😄
Not going to lie, the animation on Marinette shaking after being almost akumatized is actually amazingly done. You can see her shock and fear of almost falling under Gabriel's control.
The difference between tikki and plagg is that plagg actually supports Adrien pursuing the other miraculous holder.
Yes. But he also doesn't like Marinette.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian wasn't plagg supportive and TRYING to get Adrien to give up on ladybug to be with Marinette? Especially for the baked goods
What I hate about this season is that Marinette is still giving out the charms to keep people from being akumatized, even though she gave one to "Gabriel" like last season yet he still got akumatized in this season. Like, maybe realize it may not be as effective as you think Marinette.
Also I fully agree on the Marinette should have been akumatized plot line this episode could have had. There's been multiple episodes where she's incredibly depressed which is the prime example of when she should or could be akumatized yet Gabriel just ignores it. Like the episode where she wanted to give up being Ladybug and hand herself over to him. But no, the rejection of Chat Noir in this episode is enough to get her to almost be akumatized. It just doesn't make sense.
The disrespect makes you want to see Chat Noir be the one to take down hawkdaddy, doesn't it.
It was a really good review, I really enjoyed this episode. Just a tiny reminder: at 0:40, ladybug was not kissing cn without his consent. In this context, she was just giving him "la bise" (it's a way to greet your close friends in France by kissing each others' cheeks), she just exagerrated a little bit by giving him too many kisses, but it isn't considered as a kiss for expressing one's romantic feelings.
If it wasn't for the should-be-arrested fans and Andre being a toxic shipper, i would rate it 10/10. I usually hate romance focused episode, but this one made me scream
I'm surprised you didn't talk more about how Andre literally told the truth to Adrien to his face.
Like so far everyone else in this series has danced around the topic with him but the ice cream man just straight went and did what fans waited for so long.
Does it change he's a creep not really
But I still think it's good to finally let that bombshell drop for him.
So now he isn't so clueless and can probably reflect on some of the past episodes like he ought to.
Being creepy I don’t know but at least Andre didn’t sugar coat it like the other characters have done for over 4 seasons now
So glad I'm not the only one seeing Alya becoming a permanent resident of the bakery. Which is also funny bc we saw her, nino and the sister (I forgot her name) hanging out a lot at home that one episode. Has she not noticed 😭
You know, i gotta say i think Ladybug's creeping on Cat noir was actually worse then Cat Noir. He always maintained a respectful distance and while He flirted a lot and asked her out a lot, and often went in for a kiss... a lot. He never actually touched Her and Ladybug often flirted back or played along. Ladybug though... She kisses him a whole bunch of times and tries to go in for more and She directly comments on His physical appearance several times and Cat Noir just Ignores it entirely. This is after She's rejected Him for 4 seasons too. It reeks of a lack of self awareness. I doubted She would stay like this for too long of course, can't have Ladybug with an outstanding flaw for too long, but it's kind of Annoying that Cat Noir was allowed to do this for 4 season straight with no real growth, as if Men are mentally slow or something and can't take a hit after the first 3 times.
Yeah, Ladybug going after Cat Noir like this seems kinda worse than when it was the reverse. He would be annoying and distracting, but he was also be a hopeless romantic. Flowers, compliments on both physical and personal traits, being there as a friend. He pushed a bit, but a quick word and discussion would normally set him right. Especially since he often got some kind of consequence for going too far sometimes, even if it’s over exaggerated for entertainment effect.
With Ladybug though, it just comes across as creepy. I think it doesn’t help that early Marinette was very creepy in the way she crushed on Adrien, and some of that leaks into Ladybug now. It’s hard for me to cheer for Mari/LB right now because she really did just transfer her obsessive feelings from one person to another.
CN also has the backstory of being Adrien, who is bad at social cues and is trying to learn the best he can. But Mari doesn’t really have that excuse, as she could get solid advice from her parents or something.
It’s almost like they wanted to explore that hero/civilian relationship dynamic, but stuck with CN and Mari because he’s a guy with the status. Which makes the audience more alert to this power dynamic as it’s more common and often (for good or bad) overly scrutinized.
I get what you're saying, there's a lot of characters in the show who just don't seem to know what consent is (٥↼_↼)
@@archer7139 True but when it's the main characters doing it...
It’s probably because ladybug think cat noir is still into her at this point in the show!!
What made it awful was Andrè refusing to give them icecream, friendship icecream is out of the question also except with Luka and Marinette when Andrè finds out who Cat Noir and Ladybug are it's all going to make sense
I had to pause like 10 times because I couldn’t handle the STRESS
Glad I wasn't the only one
SAME
I love that you went from 'that is so cringe' to 'pick the earnings of her corpse' .Wonderful content!
How is Andre the most popular ice cream man when he doesn't even sell you ice cream if you go against his ship.
Also I didn't think about how perfect this episode would have been for akumatised Marinette but now I'm sad we didn't get it. Let her be akumatise dammit.
Yeah at least once right
Unfortunately plot armour prevents that from happening
@@rednetherbrick3178 yeah
THE POWER MARICHAT HOLDS. It was the first kiss in this show that both ppl remember and isn't from a dream or a what-if episode (we don't talk about pupeteer 2).
I hate andre so much. The first time he got akumitized, I know Marinette was a little rude to him, but he was so pushy in something that wasn't his business. The second and third time however annoy me so much
6:55 this part made me laugh out loud 😂 the whole Marinette falling off the balcony from her clumsiness was just the funniest thing to me 😂😂😂
When Marinette snapped in the episode I felt that because, I've been there where people would choose and make decisions for me when I was younger and I still have a hard time making decisions now because of that. And there's a reason why Hot Dog Dan was in the wedding in the Jubilation dream as we saw in this episode.
Now that’s a very important detail I couldn’t remember. He absolutely did give ice cream to the other couples and wasn’t upset he got it wrong 😑
Marinette : Oh Tikki, I wonder if a boy wil ever love me.
Luka and Adrien : seriously, wtf?!
Nathalie too in season one
Nathaniel too
*That one moment Adrien realises that Marinette used to be in love with him*
KEEP FRIENDZONING HER AND I BRING OUT MY BAZOOK-
I can't wait to see how Gabe takes advantage of knowing Chat likes Marinette. Boy is her family going to be in trouble
Knowing austric that storyline was gonna be forgotten anyway so...
I believe the reason why the romance seems are better this season is because the age rating of the show went up slightly at the beginning of season 5
The funny thing is the idea for this episode was entirely taken from the fandom. I could list a whole bunch of ao3 fics released years ago that basically have the same premise. What tf are the writers actually smoking 😭
Pretty sure that's the same thing they did in the episode Ms. Bustier got akumatized.
List them pls I wanna check them out.
Exactly! I've been reading this kind of fics for like 2 years now. Pretty sure I've seen thousands of Marichat fics where they hang out fall in love and make out. I've also seen fanfics where LB falls for Chat and he says he likes someone else and she cries. And also Adrienette fics where he falls for Mari but she keeps thinking of Chat. The Whole season is just fanfictions coming to live.
Gabe's arm is literally about to fall off I really can't wait to see how the writers get around that lul
Or it spreads across his whole body
The biggest crime of this show is everyone regarding Andre as this big sweetheart that everyone loves when he’s genuinely one of the most annoying characters. He’s caused nothing but problems whenever he’s in the story and is such a creep that cares way too much about the love lives of teenagers. I just can’t believe he’s this big lovable guy when all we ever see of him is disaster because the children he’s known for five minutes aren’t with the children he thinks they should be with.
Literally SCREAMED when I saw that kiss scene… and then proceeded to cry after they ended up staying friends (even if it WAS justified)
AGHHHHH-
OMG samee! I like Mari chat, but it’s hypocritical for marionette to reject the guy she spent 4 GOSH DANG SEASONS CHASING AFTER. She has no idea what she’s passing up, I hope the writers make things write and finally get those two together. As a hopeless romantic, I would literally KILL to have a guy fawn over me the way Adrien fawns over marinette😭💓
I absolutely love the cene of the little kisses into his face. I love how marinette is sassy and confident with chat noir
This is one of my favorite reviews you've done on MLB. Just great humor.
As a huge Marichat fan since S1. I’m glad they got to be their natural selfs and wasn’t expecting them to kiss. If this wasn’t a kid show they would have been hot & heavy on one another. I know in the fandom we see them as a sin ship but wasn’t expecting them to be a cute/fluff ship
I agree with you, i Love marichat, it's my fave ship.
_"Yeah he's gonna die"
You might think its too wrong but Gabe dying only concerns me about Adrein,
I can feel a sharp pain in my heart,
There's no way he can be saved..
And..
Adrien will probably know he was the one who caused it..
Damn just being your farther's enemy is so much more than enough.
That's dark..
But..
Yeah I'm so excited for the story to get to that point~
The darkest things about Adrien, being his father's archenemy (or second because of LB) and potentially his father's murderer...and yes I know the second one is accidental, but still.
Maybe the writers will have Gabe just lose his arm instead of straight up killing off their main villain
I'm definitely glad the writing has improved so much, the story has become so much more interesting now
I love love love the cute kiss especially on the nose I’m wrapped adrien knows mari loves him I’m hoping he’s worked out he’s buttercup
I still waiting for Adrain to tell Nino that he is Catnoir. In the episode rocktear, the scene right before Nino is akumizteds, was the perfect moment for Adrian to reveal his secret identity to Nino, but nope. I hope, I don’t have to wait for season eight for this to happened.
Well, we know how good Nino can keep secrets
@@duusu2608No he is not
Yeah.
I think Luka would be way better to be for Adrien what Alya is for Marienette.
Nino would be just a bad choice
Andre gotta be one of the most.... randomly unhinged characters in this show. Imagine losing your shit and not serving your ice cream to someone, because they aren't currently on a date with the person you shipped them with. This man needs jesus 🤦🏿♂️
I did like the episode and I do like your idea with Scarabella, but I'm ready for the romance plot to be put on the back for a few episodes.
I feel like we've had too many episodes focussing on the different ships between Marinette and Adrien and their hero personas, and not enough focus on the actual plot of the season. The hero team isn't any closer to getting the Miraculous back, they haven't looked into Felix since episode 2 at all, other characters haven't been relevant for the entire season (apart from Alya, Nino and Kagami). I do like that the season has even more of an overaching story then season 4, but I would like some more variety then just the romance stuff
I know this is the wrong episode, but I just realised: in Passion, Nathalie uses the power of the Goat to create a crossbow that can use miraculous powers. But in Penalteam, didn’t they say the goat can’t make things that are actually magic?
Ikr I literally thought of the same thing
maybe a misstranslation?
I think it was the alliance ring that stored the powers and Nathalie just equipped the crossbow's arrow with the powers. Just like Glaciator used the tiger on his ice-cream-shots
The goat can’t make things that are already magic but that doesn’t mean it can’t infuse things with magic
@@duusu2608 yeah, but glaciator was given the power of the tiger. Nathalie was given the goat, yet uses venom to track down the heroes
Andre this is the third time you've been akumatized because your ships aren't canon.
I really wanna re-state the fact that they’re like, what, 15 or 16? This would be crazy for an adult to go thru, let alone a TEEN. Just makes me laugh a bit lmao
Honestly, I really enjoy the Marinette x Chat dynamic way more then the other ship pairings. Because with Ladybug x Adrian they are both are wearing masks and not being their true selfs, plus the whole over obsessing thing gets annoying.
With the Labybug x Chatnoir, it's always one sided relationship.
Same with Adrian x Marinette, and plus Adrian is Chat's mask so Marinette for most of the early season is falling in love with a lie. Sort like how Bruce Wayne is Batman's mask.
But with Chat Noir x Marinette, we see their feelings for each other blossom. Starting out as like just friends that like each other's alter egos not knowing it's them. To like a true relationship, that feels real.
Honestly, one of the things I wish MLB did more was build more on the Chat Noir being the true side of Adrian. Like just imagine, something happens one day that makes Adrian so pissed that he actually can't take it anymore and spends multiple days and nights as Chat Noir. Like, a Adrian's breaking point episode. Obliviously this would have to be set up, and probably would have worked better last couple seasons but still.
This episode was great, I’m excited to see what’s next. Sources say that we will get new release dates on Wednesday
What if she used the supposed power of unmasking on monarch. Scarabella saves marionette and it’s a whole new plot line of hiding the secret from Adrian. She would have to renounce and admit but monarch does not know who scarabella is. Wouldn’t really be miraculous ladybug then. Don’t think I would be into it. Fun idea for a fan fic
Your commentary is always so funny. I get excited when a new episode comes out less for the actual show and more because I know you'll make a video about it to potentially redeem the experience 😭
I seriously hope Andre gets fined for selling ice cream without a permit.
Ikr
I just love the passion in his voice its the exact way I felt 😂
I’m glad I’m not the only one who utterly despises that one Adrien stan/stalker 💀 every time he’s on screen it’s instant cringe
I thought he promised to stop in the Gorillaza episode but no creeper's gonna creep
fr like it’s so embarrassing like girlie please stop invading his personal space, it’s not cute. why must people behave this way around celebrities like they are people too.
Your reviews make me realzied how creepy are characters of this show :'3, and oh boy... it's so many of them!
1:41 Holy sh*t someone says it
I have been asking myself the same thing.. doesn’t Alya ever go home now.. the girl is there every day 😭
Smarty Pants: Robotnick...
Me: *Starts laughing uncontrollably*.
My mind: It's Robustus.
Smarty Pants: Or whatever his name is. I think it was Robustus.
Your videos have been helping me through these boring, lonely ass nights. Love your content man. You're such a smarty pants! 😮
I'll admit it was good seeing CN getting a taste of his own medicine with LB 😂😂, I also feel bad for LB but that's karma for rejecting him too many times and yep CN he's oblivious have been reversed towards LB now.
To be honest I'm happy Marinette was shutting up Alya cause if you think about Alya always pushes her into uncomfortable positions when it comes to confessing to Adrien.
Andre should mind his own business who made him in charge of the love department no one.
Yea I ain't buying it Adrien is still carrying romantic feelings for LB even though he said friends that ain't 100% true.
not only Marinette is running away from her feelings he is too.
I know right Marichat kiss was soo damn beautiful I watch that scene on repeat
🤣🤣
let us remember that Andre the ice cream man got akumaatised ...TWICE , becasue ladybug and cat noir aernt acouple
You're making me want to watch the episodes again. Also this one is a good episode, it would be much better if Alya and Chat noir team up to save Marinette. It would make for a much better episode
While watching I also thought about Marinette getting akumatized this episode and having Alya make a return as Scarabella. I got excited for a moment thinking the writers were actually going to go for it, but then when Andre ended being the one akumatized, I just shook my head. Andre is so toxic. It was a good episode otherwise.
They can’t akumatize marinette because if that happened she will eventually reveal her secret identity even if she didn’t have the earrings, also she knows who scarabelle is…
When I watched this I was like “This was taken from somebody’s fanfic probably”
3:21
“Which makes Toms non-existent ovaries explode!”
Like WHAT? 😂
"will a boy ever love me" Over the course of the series, Nino, Luka, Nathaniel, and Adrien/Cat Noir have all had feelings for Marinette and Adrien/Chat Noir and the sculptor guy have had feelings for Ladybug.
I think one of worse detail about Andre is he said "yes yes ı know your lines" to the monarch. So just like Chloe and Leila this dude had consent about akumatize
Andre is almost as bad as Mr. Pigeon... ALMOST....
Andre needs to be chased out of Paris. He's a complete and utter asshole! Not to mention how invested he is in teenagers' love life. The dude's a massive creep! Also, we stan Adrien/Chat Noir for having standards even though it ruined the moment of beauty 😭😭😭 Kwamis Choice is next! I'm so excited!!!
Really, I agreed with Alec: Who needs an Ice Cream Man who doesn't give you what you order?
@@johannesseyfried7933 EXACTLY!!
@@kainightshade5033 Doesn't help that he's so obsessed with people's relationships.
Let it go, Dude! I don't care what your Strawberry Ice Cream foretold you!
Honestly, comparing Andre to Shippers would almost be insulting. Because most reasonable folks know that you shouldn't ship real people.
It's weird.
@@johannesseyfried7933 YES! and you know what else? He wastes all that time focusing on other people's relationships, especially kids, ever wonder where HIS partner is? Yes, He or she was smart and ran from his creepy ass
@@kainightshade5033 I mean....Andre *could* be ace....
Not that it would change much about his weird attitude. Or his even weirder Business.
I like the Idea behind it, but I doubt it earns him much Money.
Andre is basically a shipper for a popular ship in a toxic fandom💀
"Yeah he's gonna die isn't he what a shame" My thoughts exactly dude 😁
6 years! I waited 6 years for Adrien to learn that Marinette had a crush on him.
Y'know what I miss seeing marinette baking
the scene where they were flirting I was so happy but my happiness disappeared when they stop
Your review and analysis of this episode was perfect 🤩
Andre really lost many people in their eyes in this episode. Yeah she did sell ice cream to platonic friends before. Overal Andre really has some problem with Marinette XD She was the reason he was akumatized for the first time. Then in Glaciator he hated that she was hanging out with Chat noir so he got akumatized again. Then for the third time he noticed that Chat noir actually responses to Marinette's flirt in romantic way as well so he lost it XD I would say Andre is MariChat #1 hater XD He did gave his ice cream to just friends. At this point I think he just added another rule because it's MariChat and he is just hating it so he refuses and tries to cover with nonexistent ,,only lovers" rule.
Miraculus is not a hero show ,is a teen drama show XD
This season alone have so much step up come to previews ones where all were give at the end of season , only took 100 eps
True
The amount of people that I saw in comments having come back to miraculous after this episode probably stopping after season 3. Being so confused about what was going on ,and what on earth was happening with miraculous was so funny to me. Anyway time to talk about the episode it was good had some great moments and some funny moment too. Like I can ignore the animation, but one of the errors made me laugh you can see it if you pause at 9:19 in this video, his eyes will always make me laugh. They are great animation team, 10/10. Anyway this episode was good, and could make way for future episodes to come with Gabe going after Mari now. I would give it an 9/10 just because some of the moments are frustrating but other that were really good 🙂
Honestly. I wouldn't be so surprised if he and Marinette became world class bakers in a new city away from Paris to set up shop and have their own retirement home after Marinette renounces being the guardian in favor of Alix, and he and Marinette retire from their superhero gigs because Adrien wouldn't be allow to truly be happy and together with each other as long as their Ladybug and Cat Noir and need to A) recover the miraculous of the butterfly and peacock after Felix and Lila become the next main co-antagonists of the show and B) to find another worthy successor of taking up the role as Guardian of the miraculous
How did we go from Ladrian being the most compatible pairing in the Love square is to MariChat?
I wonder what the death rate avrage in paris went up too after hawk moth shone up
Man I'm sorry, but I always wanted more of your feelings on thr statue scene. I completely get how you feel about it. Why is that the moment he realized Marinette is amazing!?!??!
Watch his determination review then you'll know
I died during this episode
I feel so cheated by this episode we were so close to seeing akuma marinette
Wasn’t Andre there watching marinette and adrien feed their kwamis the potion things, straight up abandon their partner, transform and dive into the water? Andre is just trying to rip them apart in both forms, maybe he’s working for monarch
Or worse, he's working with Tikki, the evil mastermind
1:10 those character models look out of place next to each other, like they're from different shows or smth in addition to the fact that it looks like they are both looking at something behind the other instead of making eye contact like you would expect in that context. It's something that always bugged me. The main characters had real hair while background characters had play-dough hair even when interacting with a main character. I get why but it still bugs me.
Okay, just had a thought. They don’t know each other’s ages right? So if Cat Noir was actually 40 (marinette is 15 I think?) he would probably go to jail because of youknowwhat. Dude, Marinette, make better choices lmao, could’ve sent him to jail if he wasn’t secretly your same age
Shipping people would be creepy and the icecream man can’t decide who goes with who.
Huh, well, things seems to be getting trickier for both our Heroes and Villains, how very interesting.
8:28 IT TOOK HIM 5 SEASONS TO FIGURE IT OUT?!
Two things for this episode (wich i really liked):
1. Adrien transforming only a few steps ahead of his fan horde isn't such a good idea in my opinion. It's way to risky for him to see them, that he transforms into Cat Noir and making pictures of it or posting this gigantic news, that Adrien Agreste is Cat Noir, on social media. But again: Plot Armor saves him
2. I know, it is a kids show... but is it just me, or did someone else thought, while Mari and Cat Noir kissed heavily in front of the statue, that they were very close stripping each other and making out in public? I mean, they're teenagers and their hormones should be running wild at this time and with this action^^
Fr , i thought they're gonna make out at some moment.
I thought the same too. If it weren't a kids show, I am pretty sure they would have
It kinda bothering that, Chat HAS to kiss Marinete or else she gets Akumized.