You know sometimes I think the world would be a better place if everyone just identified themselves as nonbinary. This way no one would be gay, no one would be trans, and there'd be no gender discrimination.
Because early on he seemed to have a genuine connection to the sense of magic and wonder of childhood It's kinda tragic that he lost touch with that inner child over time and success
@@catdogmousecheese Honestly... yea that kinda makes sence in a weird sort of way Like yoshis from mario, they don't have gender but some characters like birdo are just more feminine I like the ides
A recent interview he did with pureflix he stated that while he couldn't put biblical stuff into a cartoon show he snuck in lessons about acceptance, love, and family (even tho Timmy had shitty parents). Rewatching it you can kind of see it even "Da rules" book is an allegory of the bible. Timmy couldn't cheat, interfere with true love, kill or hurt anyone, steal etc.
Where someone aligns themselves socially, politically or economically, doesn't dictate how they feel about nuanced situations. He often spoke his mind through his cartoons and I never would have guessed it was being written by a conservative christian, but with someone who identifies with children who question the asinine nature of made up social expectations.
I kinda wish Timmy got Trixie a comic book she had her eye on or something and was on recommendation from "his cousin Timmantha" who was only in town for a day or two before having to move back to Tibecuador or something just to wrap things up on that plot point. Like that'd be out of character for TImmy, but I feel like showcasing the understanding that she wants to be understood by giving her an actual birthday gift she would want, and an explanation for why Timmantha, someone who was a real friend to her, wouldn't be able to see her again, would have been a better resolution that posturing that he understands her, when she hardly knew his name before that moment
honestly i think that's really on spot for timmy's character, he's very good at telling lies on the spot that people somehow believe, no matter how ridiculous lol
And it would work so well, too. She could still have to kick him out because of other girls making fun of the gift. The problem, of course, is that it would disrupt the status quo. He's supposed to pine for Trixie and her not care about him. Can't have them actually becoming friends, especially not that early on.
30:33 Pregnant Cosmo was literally what cracked my egg. I had always wanted to be a parent, but I hated the idea of being a "mother" so badly. I had a doll called "big baby" that I would carry around everywhere and pretend to make food for, but if someone asked if I was his "mommy" I would start screaming and crying about how I was a daddy and I would never be a mommy. Seeing that a man was able to be pregnant and still have his masculinity reassured and his gender never questioned made me really happy back as a 6 year old, though I didn't understand why until later in life. It wasn't a gender swap, just a "gender role" swap that really helped me figure out who I was and how I wanted other people to perceive me.
Sadly its just common on real life too, a lot of girls go through puberty very early (i can say this from experience) (Ps. And im pretty sure even then little girls are just…not respected to put it lightly)
@@bornanime3255people do it irl, happened to me. Was catcalled for the first time when I was 8. I'm ugly now so not much of an issue anymore but I still remember how uncomfortable and confused I was that someone would say that stuff to me.
As a kid I loved the line where Trixie said “if boys could just do more girly things then girls could do more boy things.” Kinda illustrating how simple the logic is.
@@Sophia-vk5bq I personally dismiss it because it goes against anything observed in sociology and psychology. For example, the biological difference of men being more interested in things and women being more interested in people, is one of not the biggest difference between male and female we are able to observe. It's also the cause while boys play with cars and such, and girls play with dolls. What's more it increases the more you neutralize cultural differences.
@@skotnica93 amazing how you say it contradicts sociology (the study of the development, structure, and functioning of human society) but then go on to argue that boys and girls are biologically Inclined to play with cars and dolls respectively, yet somehow don't see the obvious contradiction. The problem with your argument is that you're assuming because there are biological differences (no one here is arguing otherwise) between men and women then therefore ALL differences between men and women are biological. This is silly, reality is not so black and white that it's either all differences are either completely biological or completely socially constructed. Reality is nuanced. We don't need to force everyone into narrow boxes.
I remember a FAN THEORY from tumblr that Timmy is already a trans boy. His parents were so sure they were having a girl, and Cosmo kind of panics when Wanda changes Timmy into a girl eta emphasis on FAN THEORY
Yeah i saw something like that too! Here is the first result for searching trans timmy "A flashback to when his mom was pregnant with him shows his parents were expecting a girl and bought him a bunch of girly things, including his pink hat, and there are apparently childhood pictures of him in dresses that upset him to remember. His parents sometimes are depicted as wishing they had a girl, and occasionally forget Timmy’s name. He has a “shrill girly voice” that lets him imitate women like Wanda. He also seems pretty self conscious about liking boy things and pushes girls away, and gets self conscious when he does enjoy girly things and other boys mock him for it. " But the one i saw also had pictures and the theory to how everyone doesn't know anything about it. Here: "I know everyone’s talking about how the cast of Danny Phantom is full of gay and trans characters exclusively to piss of Butch Hartman but let us not forget, Butch’s bread and butter, Fairly Odd Parents… Timmy’s parents were 100% sure that Timmy was going to be a girl before he was born, as seen in the episode Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker. Cosmo seems to be the only other one in the know about this, and has baby pictures of Timmy in a dress on hand Then, in the episode The Boy Who Would Be Queen… When Wanda does, inevitably, transform Timmy into a girl to teach him a lesson… Cosmo immediately panics. AND in the episode “It’s a Wishful LIfe” when Timmy wishes he never existed… The Turners have a daughter instead. In conclusion: THEORY "Cosmo, I wish nobody remembered me as anything OTHER than Timmy Turner!" "Cool beans Timmy- O! This sounds exactly like the kind of timestream disrupting wish I'm definitely gonna handle by myself!" (Timmy’s parents) "Oh woe is us, we never had the daughter of our dreams, this is saddening" (Timmy) "Hahah, cool" (wanda) "Timmy you do not respect women so I am going to turn you into a woman to punish you" (cosmo) "Wanda, what the f" "Timmy Turner is trans and used the power of one of his fairy godparents to wish that everyone in his life completely forget that he was born and raised female for a portion of his life, including his parents and his other fairy godparent. Share to make butch hartman mad he accidentally keeps making characters trans" yeah so these r the theories i saw! And also found transfemm timmy comic on tumblr (searched again and apparently it's on twitter too)
As a kid I liked when they had male characters that were more sensitive or had interests that were not stereotypically coded for boys, I identified with those so much, and made me so sad when it was the butt of the jokes.
Same man. Those episodes always felt so refreshing and eye opening whenever i saw them and i felt so validated whenever heard them saying that it should be okay for a boy to do girl things and girls to do boy things
I actually think that this episode helped me feel comfortable doing gender noncomforming things as a man. I'm not trans, and have never felt confused about my gender, but it did help me accept my sexuality of being a straight guy that liked "girly" things, and that just because I did things that other guys didn't like, or even mock, didn't inherently make me less straight. So even if it wasn't a trans awakening episode for me, at least it got me out of toxic masculinity? I guess? Also, love your videos!
Live the way you wanna live brother, other men's insecurity isn't a burden you need to bear. I'm a tall dude with colourful flowery tattoos and I enjoy loads of non-genderconforming stuff, insecure men get uneasy because they don't understand why I don't care what they think. Their problem.
That's awesome and really what children need imo. Fucking transphobes keep fear mongering that kids will immediately assume and or become trans if they see stuff like this and or look deeper into the message on the surface when children usually know already what they wish to identify as
THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT DESCRIBES ME! Tbh, I still don't fully understand everything related to being transgender and how that starts. But what I do understand is that the world would be a much better place without gender norms across society. It shouldn't matter whether or not I'm a boy or a girl doing something masculine or feminine. Let me do what I want without being labeled something I know I'm not or bullied for something I genuinely enjoy doing.
I’ll never forgive this show for giving me some lovely “boy/girl stuff is arbitrary and stupid and we can all be platonic friends interested in the same things” feels when Trixie and Timmy bond over comics and stuff, only to rip the rug out from under me by reducing her to “tell me I’m pretty” when they become the last two people on Earth. She was so cool and thoughtful and deep while still liking the “girly” stuff too and then they went “okay but what if she only likes her looks and herself all the time?”
I definitely hated that episode, but it's interesting that the girl who was pressured by society to meet certain standards of femininity and being "pretty"... Later needs people to constantly TELL her she's pretty. In the hands of a capable writer for a more mature show, that flanderization could be combined with the "Queen" episode characterization to show a girl with issues of not being comfortable in her own skin, feeling ugly because of not wanting to let go of her "boyish" attributes or hobbies.
So that means cis people are hard boiled, right? There's a tumblr post I've seen around now and then, actually, that interprets Timmy as a trans boy - Particularly, it points out how his parents seemingly expected him to be a girl when he was born, how in the timeline where he doesn't exist they have a daughter instead, baby pictures of him in dresses, Cosmo's concern in this episode when he's initially genderswapped... it clearly wasn't written with that intent, and I think the post was made mostly jokingly, given the way it directly compares FOP to one of Butch's other shows, Danny Phantom, whose main character is also interpreted by some fans to be a trans guy himself, and one commonly reblogged addition says something along the lines of "reblog to make Butch Hartman mad he keeps writing trans characters by accident" in reference to said creator's... not Great reaction to queer interpretations of his characters? But it's interesting how themes conducive to trans headcanons Do crop up in his works more regularly than you'd maybe expect.
idk about timmy but I now that there were queer writers in the danny phantom space that activly tried to code danny to be trans masc or at least queer. Butch hartman doesnt write his shows, he doesnt design his characters. He is really just the face for them.
i forgot about trixie cross dressing and cosmo getting pregnant but they were important to me! i was cross dressing as “my boy cousin” (not a real person) when i was six! i loved cosmo, horses, seahorses, and seeing him embody everything i wanted at such a young age was so fundamental to me
The feelings I felt when I watched this episode for the first time in indescribable. And it was the first time I really understood that I wanted to be a girl.
I just assumed every boy watching understood that everyone would make this wish but haha big oof magic isn't real ooooohhhhhh wweeeeeellllllllllllllllll
I don't think it made me realize anything, but it definitely stuck with me. Specifically the "Buff men in tights and spandex" line, partly because it's just really funny and partly because it honestly does make a lot of sense. Sure, they're comedically indulging in gender stereotypes, but I feel like this episode was just really fun overall. God, early Fairly Oddparents was so much better than it had any right to be.... Sure, not everything worked, but this taught me that gender roles were bullshit, the 'wishing away emotions' episode helped me understand that it's not great to bottle things up because life would suck without letting yourself feel things, and the 'grey blob' episode taught me that even in an exact equal society where everyone's identical there will still be hierarchies of discrimination! How the heck did Butch Hartman end up being a super-conservative after making this crap?!? This is everything he stands against and then some, lol!
i feel like my life as a teenage robot is also a big trans cartoon, a lot of trans people who grew up with the show heavily identified with the whole "not liking your body/being ashamed of the body youre in" narrative that jenny goes through, as well as deadnaming she experiences in the first episode. some artists for the show have said that they didnt intend for the show to be a trans allegory, but they see how it can be read like that and were happy that they could make a show that resonates so well within the community
The artificial skin episodes are -chefs kiss- Also, Jenny's mom constantly deadnaming her made me so angry as a child for reasons I didn't understand yet.
Yesss! I used to keep it open but then I got my cat and he uses to go in the toilet to drink, so I had to always leave it closed. Now, it just grosses me out to leave the lid open. It's really not a difficult habit to change, so yeah close the lid, lovely people who don't do it already
Isn't anti-Wanda like a stereotypical southern idiot type of caricature? ............ Yeah.... Honestly, that kind-of makes sense. "I just think that them there genders are just determined by the thing between your legs!" (eats sandwich with her feet)
The anti-Wanda is too stupid to be mean though. She'd just eat a lightbulb with ranch dressing while anti-Cosmo explains his opinions on the subject. If you seen how regular Cosmo acted in this episode, you'd know how happy he was to be a girl. Also girl Cosmo is hot imo.
The genderbeing trope, many a trans person's awakening lol Shame we don't get as many genderbeing episodes any more because transphobes get triggered by everything.
@@Pablo_Martin_aanot always. Sometimes they don't even point out how weird it is that the person genderbent is suddenly sexualized or a massive stereotype when they weren't either of those things before
there's a whole anime / manga about a boy who turns into a girl with cold water. it's called Ranma. when i was a kid i remember watching random episodes because it kinda shocked me in a good way (?). i watched some episodes even months ago and the anime really loves to hold on to the binary and gender roles. personally i dont know yet if i belong to a certain flavour of genderqueer yet but i 100% know that being able to change my body completely (almost) whenever i want is my dream. the gender envy is there.
I am pretty ssure it was to comment on gendr, but yah the benefit is that yeah ranma is himself while both, he can be a jerk, and opportunistic, and expüloitative, and the use anything you can. Yeop he is the same, but gets more comfortable. But he clewarly has dysphoria too, else he would not go that out of the way to like be fully a guy. So its opf cours trans too.
@@leebulger7112 oh you're right! I wrote "warm water" cause I vaguely remembered that everytime he took a bath he transformed into a girl, but internet says otherwise.
I love that sometimes, Ranma was just hanging out in her girl form, like it's no big deal. Then Kuno or Happosai do something pervy and he wants to change back.
when I first came out, I remember really wishing that more guys would be into "feminine" things and vice versa, mostly just because I wanted to dress and do whatever I wanted, but I was tired of being immediately singled out as queer for enjoying things I liked
An entire kids show whose concept is gender swap is SheZow, the boy main character inherits his aunt's powers but he turns into a girl when he uses those powers. Really interesting show, loved it as a kid
As a Trans girl watching this I had no idea what was actually going on in my brain and simply wondering why their weren't more episodes where boys turned into girls because they were always the best episodes and obvioussly everyone thought this way. XP
Not sure what people mean by put the seat down tbh. There's the lid and the seating ring. Does the lid go down too or just the ring? Eh, has nothing to do with me since I sit.
Look sometimes you just need to sit down and even if you don't have to take a sitting down and taking a piss kind of helps your legs and give it to you in excuse
yea just put the lid down so poop particles aint flying all over, also probably decreases the likelihood of u dropping stuff in the toilet from it being open all the time lol
As a trans man who spent a whole lot of time as an eggy woman, I really didn't empathize with fellow women at all until I 'gender swapped'. I realized how much better I'm now treated as soon as I started passing as a man, so I realized how bad I was treated as a woman. It's almost like I didn't believe that I was really treated that badly, so I was annoyed with other women for complaining about it. Only once I transitioned did I really start to deconstruct my internalized misogyny. Totally the reverse scenario. Looking back it makes sense how at 12 years old I was cruel to women because of how much I hated girliness and 'girl things', but yea thinking misogynistic and gender essentialist thoughts is still something I worry heavily about as a former transmed. It still feels awkward and shameful to like 'girl things', except with a whole new layer cos now ppl use it to tell me I'll always be a woman. When that happens, I usually say well sure, that past experience of womanhood is a part of me still, and I look back fondly on the woman I used to think I was. That's not the most PC way of talking about things but I really just wanna treat the woman I thought I was with kindness, instead of the disdain she treated other women with.
Thank you for sharing. I went through something similar, though to a lesser extent I would say. That last paragraph really resonates with me. I think it's really important to treat past versions of ourself with kindness, even if (and especially when) we're glad we're not like that anymore. And hey, at the very least that person is what got me here!
I remember reading a bunch of gender swapping manga growing up. All about girls turning into/pretending to be boys. I really loved the genre. Really shoulda realized the trans thing years ago lol
I read a manga where a character pretends to be a girl (it's not entirely clear if they are or not) and they manage to make it into the contest to determine who gets to join a huge polycule. The character reveals (in a very gross way) that they lied to get in the polycule. The fun thing is that the boss of the polycule stops her assistant from doing something hasty and instead offers the character a spot in the polycule as long as they become a eunich (meaning get sterilized and don't participate in sexual activities. This manga takes place in Japan and was written a long time ago so it aged poorly) The character shouts no way and is taken out of the competition. The key takeaway here is that they COULD have been a member of the polycule and that there are trans characters in the polycule already. The manga is outdated, but I'd love to see an updated version it in anime form.
Dexter's Lab episode of Boy Named Sue felt like a transgender version of no homo like everything is so on the nose and direct its like someone was trying to write a trans origin story without actually making the character trans.
this episode is unfortunately a big part of my earlier experiences of realizing that i am trans and i feel that that is not what butch hartman wanted to do at all.
Still took me till the age of 22 to realize I’m trans after watching this episode despite really wishing I could make that wish, I can still remember the excitement or just the feelings this episode brought when I first saw it. Today is the 1 year Anniversary of my egg cracking and I’ve been on estrogen for 8 months in 12 days
@@Badgerpaw apparently Hartman is very upset by trans/generally queer interpretations of his characters Mainly when those interpretations center around Timmy Turner or Danny Phantom (that or those are just the more common ones)
I only pushed passed some toxic masculinity thinking of mine during the last few years. I'm a girl who grew up with this show and episodes like it, and the discussion of trans/nonbinary inclusion has done more to help me become more well rounded in things I like than any of the conservative line in the sand thinking
A more extreme but similar example with sexual assault (brutal SA tw): in the Doctor Who spinoff Torchwood, a main character named Owen is a complete a-hole who isn't above using alien tech to brainwash people into sex. But then in episode 3, when he finds a machine that transmits to him the real time feelings of a women who is raped and killed- suddenly his empathy and whole character shifts in a dramatic way. This plot was also used in a spectacular way to make us suddenly empathise with a basically comepletely unempathisable character, as the experience permanently changed him. Certainly most shows won't go as dark as Torchwood did, but an interesting similar 'character is forced to empathise by living it' in some way.
I'll never forget the sheer egg cracking force of playing a quest in Runescape when I was little that required that my character use a potion to change genders. They offered a free swap back after the quest was done, but I just left my character that way. Something about it felt *right* to my little egg brain.
I love that Johnny Bravo episode. Imagine if it came out today and all the misogynists got triggered and shot their TVs. "back in mah day cartoons weren't woke", yes they were, you just weren't freaked out over everything.
Honestly I always thought Timmy was trans as a kid even before I knew what that meant. "Huh his parents seemed to always get his gender wrong he must have wished to be a boy" I mean his initials are TT, he's on T, it's decided.
Because his parents really thought he was gonna be a girl, and the fact that in the episode he wishes he was never born, his parents have a daughter! So to me, Timmy Turner is a trans guy.
I love the effort and degree of detail you put into your video. But I think that the episode „It's A Wishful Life“ could have been referenced as it deals with an alternate reality in which instead of Timmy a girl is born in to his family. To me it was always a great metaphor on how as trans people, we, I , in the past have felt like a burden to the people around me. At times rejecting who i am. As Timmy in the end feels like should not have been born, he portrays the danger of unaliving if children, especially those who are trans, don’t feel accepted.
anyone else remember that episode of The Amazing World of Gumball where he's forced to wear his mom's wedding dress, essentially cross-dressing and deciding to go along with his genderbent persona; then his brother falls in love with the feminine version of him???
It's more than that. Iirc a long as he was wearing the dress, everything went great for him, but as soon as he loses it his life returns to being an endless series of mishaps.
This episode is so much better than I remember it being, I think I confused it a bit in my head with the Dexter's Laboratory episode where he turns himself into a girl so he can find out what's in the girls bathroom and it turns out all women's bathrooms are hyper feminine alternate dimensions. I'm also impressed that this episode exists the way it does considering everything I know about Butch Hartman
I think my favorite running joke in the queer community is saying something like "let me be straight" or "ill get straight to the point" and ending it with a joke about how they are in fact not straight
I never watched Fairly Odd Parents as a kid, so I was VERY confused when I started stumbling across genderswap art of Timmy and Johnny some years ago preceding my egg-cracking.
Transmasc here. Genderswap episodes one hundo inspired me before I even knew that trans was a thing I could be. The specific one I remember was a chapter of a manga called Ultra Maniac about teenage girls and witches. Early on the witch character turns herself and her human friend into boys to go to a party with their crushes. Not only were their male versions super cute and popular it just seemed like they had such a great time. It made me think that man...if only I could be a boy, I bet I would have such a great time as well LOL. I think it especially struck a chord with me because I hadn't really seen a female-to-male gender swap episode before. In general I know they can be somewhat problematic but I'll always continue to love genderbend / cisswap / ect ideas, episodes, and art. Gender play is just really fun, sue me.
You are banging these out so fast lately! It’s worth noting that the title of the episode is probably a reference to “The Man Who Would Be Queen”, a pop “science” book by noted transphobe J Michael Bailey. So the creators at least had some cognition that they were making a trans related episode, albeit likely lacking a healthy perspective on what trans people actually are like.
“Women are from Neptune (?probably??), men are from Detroit, and NB people are RIGHT BEHIND YOU” I nearly choked on my drink I laughed so hard. You are a treasure, thank you for making such thoughtful videos. ❤️
i was kinda obsessed with this episode as a kid. i would go to comic stores with my dad all the time as a kid, liked dresses and skirts but also more “boyish” clothes, and i would often have shorter or midlength hair cuts. cut to my early 20s and i’m a post-top feminine trans guy lol. trying to place myself nicely into societal expectation of “girls” and “boys” is what made it so hard for me to realize i just am a guy who likes girly things because i was told if i likes any girly things then i must be a girl. sorry for the ramble, but this and other gender swap episodes of cartoons in the 2000s and 2010s always had hooks in my brain lol
For someone as stupidly conservative as Butch, he somehow managed to do a 180 and made one of the most undercoated-but-is-it-really queer kids shows. I mean I barely remember a lot of Fairly odd parents but most of the things I do remember is just, very queer coded it’s amazing (I mean there is literally the episode where Timmy’s parents thought they were having a girl and bought girly things and would still put him in dresses…I mean come on)
Ten year old me always believed Timmy would wish to be Timmantha again to spend time with Trixie. It really broke my heart Timantha or even a Trixie / Timmy friendship didn't come back.
Oh, could you do a video on the episode of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina where each of the main characters gets shown a nightmarish vision of their worst fears coming true and Theo's is a transmasc nightmare where they have to mutilate their own body. Really dark jarring episode.
Yeah, as someone who thought I was a cis girl at that time I was able to watch that at the time but now with my gender crisis I just can't rewatch that one.
One of my most egg moments was thinking “Why would he want to go back to being a boy? She’s clearly happier as a girl. I know I wouldn’t want to change back.”
The part where trixy felt sad about her friend not showing up really hits home because when i moved cities i didnt have any friends, was hard to make friends as a slightly feminine gay man even though I like video games and mangas My one friend was a girl who everyomr liked and her favorite manga to read was Berserk It was great having someone who i can game with and be myself around and learn about new manga/share and watch anime that she didnt know about Then, her parents had to move to a new military base and my only real friend/connection was gone and i felt what true lost was as a kid
The whole Body-Swap =/= Gender Swap thing is pretty easy to parse, I'd say so I agree with your continued "He/him"-ing. I mean, is Your Name about trans curiosity? Not really. Wait... is it?
This episode instantly catapulted Trixie to my #1 in TFO. She acts the exact same as one of my old friends IRL, who herself faced backlash over liking "boy things", and really didn't (and currently doesn't from my sources) have many friends because of it. I just really wish she didn't ruin it right at the end. On a side note, why does she look at least 16 in her normal outfit but actually 10 in the disguise when she loses her hat? I genuinely forget she's the same age as Timmy sometimes because of her design and the disguise really put into perspective how young she truly is.
Gender swap stories can both be trans in the sence that the character might gueniuenely be trans or genderfluid, but also if the character is cis, because in their time as that gender they are still identifying as their starting gender, they are trans for the amount of time they are genderswapped
This was my favorite episode as a kid and I could never understand why. It was just my favorite. End of story. Turns out I was trans the whole time. Makes sense now that I look back.
When I was a kid there was this show called Nightmare Ned. I rewatched an episode titled "Girl Trouble" before leaving this comment. It's better than I remember. I don't know if anyone has heard of it, but it stuck with me for a long time and I was really young when I saw it, like, one time. Very early 90's style to it. Also, I love the comment section. I really didn't expect to se such heartwarming and beautiful stories about other people's experiences. It was so great. Thanks for what you are doing. It means a lot.
My nonbinary ass got some weird second hand when the whole literally splitting the world in half and putting men on one side an women on the other. Like my heart f*cking dropped. Even though it's an entirely fictional scenario, it felt so uncomfortable to even think about. Nonbinary dysphoria is weird.
Since i was a kid i thought that timmy was trans. He connected with me as someone who needed help and better parental figures. It meant a lot to me as a kid, even if Butch Hartman didnt intend for it to come off that way it doesnt matter because it helped me know who i am.
This episode, along with lots of other gender swap episodes, definitely was noticed by my brain, but being a child and all it was was basically a note to "put a pin in this for later." I'm not trans now, I've thought about it a lot and it's just not something I identify with, but it definitely helped me push out of my gender norms a lot more in terms of how I present myself. I remember even the most minor things like mentioning I saw Tangled with my family in theaters and saying that I got a haircut to people in elementary school was enough to get called girly or generally have my masculinity made fun of, so I really do hope that the next generation of kids aren't nearly as gender strict as we were/still are. That shows in general will be less one off with these moments and more embracing of breaking the mold.
Trans guy here! I remember watching this episode as a girl and thinking Trixie being into more dude-ish things like me was awesome as a kid. Even though she is not Transmasc, that was pretty cool to me as a kid.
I'm not trans nor I normally look for gender related video essays to entertain me during breakfast, but I'm glad I decided to watch this one. It was interesting I really like your way of explaining and I'll continue to watch your videos
I loved this gender swap episode as a kid because I'm super femme like Trixie and have always felt the need to hide all the "boy" interests I had(until I found a healthier, well-rounded group of friends). I liked both dresses and makeup and I liked watching action movies with car chases and explosions. So this episode of Fairly Odd Parents was validating for me. Like sure, I still felt I had to hide or downplay my interests, but I at least felt validated that I wasn't the only one who had interests like I did.
This is something I like about modern TV. Continuity is actually taken seriously. Before the twenty-tens, almost every show, whether it was a kids' cartoon or a live action sitcom, would maintain a status quo. Character growth was rare because characters were defined by a set of traits. Trixie was a bimbo who overly cared about her image, if she learned something during this episode, then she'd have to change. That just didn't happen at the time. Today, character growth is considered vital for a show to be good.
Yeah, I remember watching this episode and being really disappointed that Trixie doesn’t act this way in any other episode. It would have been great if she and Timmy could have remained friends
I personally like the reminders at the end because i always forget to ngl, amazing video btw. Also the cosmo MPREG arc(?) is 100% a writers barely disguised fetish
Cosmo’s voice in the pilot was weird. Also I enjoyed this episode when I was younger, not exactly a kid but still. The jokes about who women were expected to be were funny even though they were not the best, mainly because I found the restrictions stupid but constantly reinforced, for everyone.
I still remember very good how my kids brain had the good sterotype of girls and boys don't play together. So new Neigbors come we play, she fell starts bleeding blabla. Next day at school she came to me and talked to said it wasn't bad and i felt like no one should see that we talk together/played. it was 2nd classs or so but I still remember it. So traumatic. also I had a good female friend in kindergarden but I thought she is a boy as she played with shark figures from a cartoon I also watched. Not traumaticing, just dumbness as we really were great friends.
I’m genuinely surprised at how many good quality videos you put out and so frequently. Excellent stuff. Also I vaguely remembered this episode, but I was expecting it to be really bad on rewatch. So I’m somewhat relived to learn it was actually pretty okay.
There was a whole gender swap kid’s cartoon called SheZow about a boy who gets a ring that can transform him into a superhero but specifically a girl superhero. He still preferred his male identity
As a trans woman named Timmi, this episode was a core memory for me growing up. I haven't seen parts of it since and I'm glad it has parts that are a positive message. I will never forget the jealousy I felt towards timmi tho
Hey Lily, I love your videos! I also love the Fairly Odd Parents (not Butch Hartman though). I started rewatching Pokémon Indigo League. (I know you've done Pokémon on a now defunct channel) but idk if it holds up with its trans representation. Okay there's the obvious episode where James gets boobs but there are episodes where both Team Rocket and Ash crossdress for various reason. I think the one where Ash crossdress is a bit to unpack because it's where he breaks into the Celadon City gym. Maybe this can be a topic worth discussing.
The whole Celadon Gym thing (that you have to like perfume OR be a girl to even challenge it) I genuinely wonder if it’s a Japanese culture thing. The frequency with which Jesse and James “crossdress” makes a lot of people (like me) say that they’re genderqueer and/or trans. James is a gay transman and Jesse is a transbian and they’re also found family 😂
the part where you say non binary people are behind me was really funny bc my partner is in fact nb and they were also behind me while I was watching this video
I highly recommend you cover either the episode “Carpet Diem” or “Dipper vs. Manliness” from Gravity Falls. If you’re unfamiliar with the show, it’s about twin siblings Dipper and Mabel, who are staying in a town called Gravity Falls for the summer with their uncle Stan. This town, however, is home to all sorts of supernatural phenomena. Also, Dipper is a (not outright stated, but heavily coded) trans man. Fight me. Carpet Diem isn’t a traditional gender swap, but it has some of the same properties. In the episode, Dipper and Mabel (who are opposite genders) swap bodies. The episode focuses on their experiences as each other’s genders, even more so than their experiences in each other’s bodies. Cause… well… they’re identical twins. It’s canon, the show’s creator said so. In Dipper vs. Manliness, Dipper is made fun of for not being “manly.” He’s called out for his lack of physical strength and his affinity for the pop sensation BABBA (a parody of ABBA). So, Dipper goes on a quest to prove to everyone that he really is a man. By the end of the episode, he stands up for what he believes in, which is considered a manly thing to do.
I’m still curious about how Butch the mega conservative Hartman made a pretty decent display of the arbitrariness of societal gender expectations
You know sometimes I think the world would be a better place if everyone just identified themselves as nonbinary. This way no one would be gay, no one would be trans, and there'd be no gender discrimination.
Because early on he seemed to have a genuine connection to the sense of magic and wonder of childhood
It's kinda tragic that he lost touch with that inner child over time and success
@@catdogmousecheese
Honestly... yea that kinda makes sence in a weird sort of way
Like yoshis from mario, they don't have gender but some characters like birdo are just more feminine
I like the ides
A recent interview he did with pureflix he stated that while he couldn't put biblical stuff into a cartoon show he snuck in lessons about acceptance, love, and family (even tho Timmy had shitty parents). Rewatching it you can kind of see it even "Da rules" book is an allegory of the bible.
Timmy couldn't cheat, interfere with true love, kill or hurt anyone, steal etc.
Where someone aligns themselves socially, politically or economically, doesn't dictate how they feel about nuanced situations.
He often spoke his mind through his cartoons and I never would have guessed it was being written by a conservative christian, but with someone who identifies with children who question the asinine nature of made up social expectations.
I kinda wish Timmy got Trixie a comic book she had her eye on or something and was on recommendation from "his cousin Timmantha" who was only in town for a day or two before having to move back to Tibecuador or something just to wrap things up on that plot point. Like that'd be out of character for TImmy, but I feel like showcasing the understanding that she wants to be understood by giving her an actual birthday gift she would want, and an explanation for why Timmantha, someone who was a real friend to her, wouldn't be able to see her again, would have been a better resolution that posturing that he understands her, when she hardly knew his name before that moment
Tibecuador lmao
That’s sweet
honestly i think that's really on spot for timmy's character, he's very good at telling lies on the spot that people somehow believe, no matter how ridiculous lol
And it would work so well, too. She could still have to kick him out because of other girls making fun of the gift.
The problem, of course, is that it would disrupt the status quo. He's supposed to pine for Trixie and her not care about him. Can't have them actually becoming friends, especially not that early on.
@@ZipplyZane it could work like Sk8r Boi by Avril Lavigne
30:33
Pregnant Cosmo was literally what cracked my egg. I had always wanted to be a parent, but I hated the idea of being a "mother" so badly. I had a doll called "big baby" that I would carry around everywhere and pretend to make food for, but if someone asked if I was his "mommy" I would start screaming and crying about how I was a daddy and I would never be a mommy.
Seeing that a man was able to be pregnant and still have his masculinity reassured and his gender never questioned made me really happy back as a 6 year old, though I didn't understand why until later in life. It wasn't a gender swap, just a "gender role" swap that really helped me figure out who I was and how I wanted other people to perceive me.
mpreg cosmo changed your life😭😭
The whistling at the 10 year old girl is unfortunately completely on brand for Nickelodeon
Not during the Geraldine Laybourne era
Sadly its just common on real life too, a lot of girls go through puberty very early (i can say this from experience)
(Ps. And im pretty sure even then little girls are just…not respected to put it lightly)
Eh, ain't no biggie. Just a cartoon. Sorta thing ya can do in cartoons that ya can't do IRL
@@bornanime3255people do it irl, happened to me. Was catcalled for the first time when I was 8. I'm ugly now so not much of an issue anymore but I still remember how uncomfortable and confused I was that someone would say that stuff to me.
@@bornanime3255doesn’t really make it any less disturbing tho
As a kid I loved the line where Trixie said “if boys could just do more girly things then girls could do more boy things.” Kinda illustrating how simple the logic is.
Mhm. And yet it's still so readily dismissed by adults as a political thing.
@@Sophia-vk5bq I personally dismiss it because it goes against anything observed in sociology and psychology. For example, the biological difference of men being more interested in things and women being more interested in people, is one of not the biggest difference between male and female we are able to observe. It's also the cause while boys play with cars and such, and girls play with dolls. What's more it increases the more you neutralize cultural differences.
me too!!!
Nature vs nurture lol
@@skotnica93 amazing how you say it contradicts sociology (the study of the development, structure, and functioning of human society) but then go on to argue that boys and girls are biologically Inclined to play with cars and dolls respectively, yet somehow don't see the obvious contradiction.
The problem with your argument is that you're assuming because there are biological differences (no one here is arguing otherwise) between men and women then therefore ALL differences between men and women are biological. This is silly, reality is not so black and white that it's either all differences are either completely biological or completely socially constructed. Reality is nuanced. We don't need to force everyone into narrow boxes.
I remember a FAN THEORY from tumblr that Timmy is already a trans boy. His parents were so sure they were having a girl, and Cosmo kind of panics when Wanda changes Timmy into a girl
eta emphasis on FAN THEORY
YES! THANK YOU! ❤
Yeah i saw something like that too! Here is the first result for searching trans timmy
"A flashback to when his mom was pregnant with him shows his parents were expecting a girl and bought him a bunch of girly things, including his pink hat, and there are apparently childhood pictures of him in dresses that upset him to remember. His parents sometimes are depicted as wishing they had a girl, and occasionally forget Timmy’s name. He has a “shrill girly voice” that lets him imitate women like Wanda. He also seems pretty self conscious about liking boy things and pushes girls away, and gets self conscious when he does enjoy girly things and other boys mock him for it. "
But the one i saw also had pictures and the theory to how everyone doesn't know anything about it. Here:
"I know everyone’s talking about how the cast of Danny Phantom is full of gay and trans characters exclusively to piss of Butch Hartman but let us not forget, Butch’s bread and butter, Fairly Odd Parents…
Timmy’s parents were 100% sure that Timmy was going to be a girl before he was born, as seen in the episode Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker.
Cosmo seems to be the only other one in the know about this, and has baby pictures of Timmy in a dress on hand
Then, in the episode The Boy Who Would Be Queen…
When Wanda does, inevitably, transform Timmy into a girl to teach him a lesson…
Cosmo immediately panics.
AND in the episode “It’s a Wishful LIfe” when Timmy wishes he never existed…
The Turners have a daughter instead.
In conclusion:
THEORY
"Cosmo, I wish
nobody
remembered me as
anything OTHER
than Timmy
Turner!"
"Cool beans Timmy- O! This sounds exactly like the kind of timestream disrupting wish I'm definitely gonna handle by myself!"
(Timmy’s parents)
"Oh woe is us, we never had the daughter of our dreams, this is saddening"
(Timmy)
"Hahah, cool"
(wanda)
"Timmy you do not respect women so I am going to turn you into a woman to punish you"
(cosmo)
"Wanda, what the f"
"Timmy Turner is trans and used the power of one of his fairy godparents to wish that everyone in his life completely forget that he was born and raised female for a portion of his life, including his parents and his other fairy godparent.
Share to make butch hartman mad he accidentally keeps making characters trans"
yeah so these r the theories i saw! And also found transfemm timmy comic on tumblr (searched again and apparently it's on twitter too)
Interesting. I never knew that there were trans theories for Timmy Turner, I knew about the ones for Trixie though.
@@the0black0bulletthat makes so much sense!? Like i can’t even fathom how you even do that by accident??
That's more like a headcannon
As a kid I liked when they had male characters that were more sensitive or had interests that were not stereotypically coded for boys, I identified with those so much, and made me so sad when it was the butt of the jokes.
Same man. Those episodes always felt so refreshing and eye opening whenever i saw them and i felt so validated whenever heard them saying that it should be okay for a boy to do girl things and girls to do boy things
I actually think that this episode helped me feel comfortable doing gender noncomforming things as a man. I'm not trans, and have never felt confused about my gender, but it did help me accept my sexuality of being a straight guy that liked "girly" things, and that just because I did things that other guys didn't like, or even mock, didn't inherently make me less straight.
So even if it wasn't a trans awakening episode for me, at least it got me out of toxic masculinity? I guess?
Also, love your videos!
Live the way you wanna live brother, other men's insecurity isn't a burden you need to bear. I'm a tall dude with colourful flowery tattoos and I enjoy loads of non-genderconforming stuff, insecure men get uneasy because they don't understand why I don't care what they think. Their problem.
@@AkuraTheAwesome True gigachads wear frilly dresses and put on makeup tbh
That's awesome and really what children need imo. Fucking transphobes keep fear mongering that kids will immediately assume and or become trans if they see stuff like this and or look deeper into the message on the surface when children usually know already what they wish to identify as
THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT DESCRIBES ME! Tbh, I still don't fully understand everything related to being transgender and how that starts. But what I do understand is that the world would be a much better place without gender norms across society. It shouldn't matter whether or not I'm a boy or a girl doing something masculine or feminine. Let me do what I want without being labeled something I know I'm not or bullied for something I genuinely enjoy doing.
Love to hear that bro, this is how we build a better world, more people thinking like this
I’ll never forgive this show for giving me some lovely “boy/girl stuff is arbitrary and stupid and we can all be platonic friends interested in the same things” feels when Trixie and Timmy bond over comics and stuff, only to rip the rug out from under me by reducing her to “tell me I’m pretty” when they become the last two people on Earth. She was so cool and thoughtful and deep while still liking the “girly” stuff too and then they went “okay but what if she only likes her looks and herself all the time?”
I definitely hated that episode, but it's interesting that the girl who was pressured by society to meet certain standards of femininity and being "pretty"... Later needs people to constantly TELL her she's pretty.
In the hands of a capable writer for a more mature show, that flanderization could be combined with the "Queen" episode characterization to show a girl with issues of not being comfortable in her own skin, feeling ugly because of not wanting to let go of her "boyish" attributes or hobbies.
PLEASE talk about shezow. The plot of it was literally just a dude who accidentally found a ring that turns him into a girl superhero
Guy even has an AU counterpart named Dudepow/Gal with the reverse situation.
Strange how the show only had one season.
Ugh shezow was so good. As a kid my pfp would always be dudepow, very much an awakening
I remember this show! I watched it when I was a kid
You unlocked my memory. Why shezow was the biggest example of genderbending
Doesn't Guy just get made up like a girl (hair, makeup, clothing) in Shezow rather than a physical and/or mental transformation?
my favourite trope has alwasy been "the boy....was actually a girl" and now im non-binary and blame all the shows i watched
What you were born as, is what you are. Stop lying to yourself.
So that means cis people are hard boiled, right?
There's a tumblr post I've seen around now and then, actually, that interprets Timmy as a trans boy - Particularly, it points out how his parents seemingly expected him to be a girl when he was born, how in the timeline where he doesn't exist they have a daughter instead, baby pictures of him in dresses, Cosmo's concern in this episode when he's initially genderswapped... it clearly wasn't written with that intent, and I think the post was made mostly jokingly, given the way it directly compares FOP to one of Butch's other shows, Danny Phantom, whose main character is also interpreted by some fans to be a trans guy himself, and one commonly reblogged addition says something along the lines of "reblog to make Butch Hartman mad he keeps writing trans characters by accident" in reference to said creator's... not Great reaction to queer interpretations of his characters? But it's interesting how themes conducive to trans headcanons Do crop up in his works more regularly than you'd maybe expect.
idk about timmy but I now that there were queer writers in the danny phantom space that activly tried to code danny to be trans masc or at least queer. Butch hartman doesnt write his shows, he doesnt design his characters. He is really just the face for them.
i forgot about trixie cross dressing and cosmo getting pregnant but they were important to me! i was cross dressing as “my boy cousin” (not a real person) when i was six! i loved cosmo, horses, seahorses, and seeing him embody everything i wanted at such a young age was so fundamental to me
The feelings I felt when I watched this episode for the first time in indescribable. And it was the first time I really understood that I wanted to be a girl.
I just assumed every boy watching understood that everyone would make this wish but haha big oof magic isn't real ooooohhhhhh wweeeeeellllllllllllllllll
The egg's natural habitat: Nickelodeon.
@@decorativewingdings actually, in my country Fairly Odd Parents was showed on Disney Channel
I ship Timantha with Trixie but not Timmy with Trixie.
I don't think it made me realize anything, but it definitely stuck with me. Specifically the "Buff men in tights and spandex" line, partly because it's just really funny and partly because it honestly does make a lot of sense. Sure, they're comedically indulging in gender stereotypes, but I feel like this episode was just really fun overall.
God, early Fairly Oddparents was so much better than it had any right to be.... Sure, not everything worked, but this taught me that gender roles were bullshit, the 'wishing away emotions' episode helped me understand that it's not great to bottle things up because life would suck without letting yourself feel things, and the 'grey blob' episode taught me that even in an exact equal society where everyone's identical there will still be hierarchies of discrimination!
How the heck did Butch Hartman end up being a super-conservative after making this crap?!? This is everything he stands against and then some, lol!
Such a missed opportunity not to call him Tina Turner 😭😭
They even made a joke about that in another episode.
@@daelen.cclark that was hassle in the castle, right?
I'm sure they wanted to so badly, but legally couldn't for some reason...
i feel like my life as a teenage robot is also a big trans cartoon, a lot of trans people who grew up with the show heavily identified with the whole "not liking your body/being ashamed of the body youre in" narrative that jenny goes through, as well as deadnaming she experiences in the first episode. some artists for the show have said that they didnt intend for the show to be a trans allegory, but they see how it can be read like that and were happy that they could make a show that resonates so well within the community
The artificial skin episodes are -chefs kiss-
Also, Jenny's mom constantly deadnaming her made me so angry as a child for reasons I didn't understand yet.
100% agreed on the toilet lid thing. Flush your toilet open? Now your human waste matter is all over the walls, the floor, the ceiling. Disgusting.
It’s a bathroom. Stuff can also land on things like your hair brush or toothbrush. Please leave your lid down for the love of humanity, people!
Yesss! I used to keep it open but then I got my cat and he uses to go in the toilet to drink, so I had to always leave it closed. Now, it just grosses me out to leave the lid open. It's really not a difficult habit to change, so yeah close the lid, lovely people who don't do it already
YEP. I always close the lid and have trained my bf to do so as well.
I've been doing it with the lid open my whole life
@@Nakia11798"trained"?
So. If Wanda force-femmed Timmy, does that imply that the anti-wanda is a TERF?
All anti-fae are TERFs
Anti-Wanda is an idiot. So most likely😅
Isn't anti-Wanda like a stereotypical southern idiot type of caricature?
............ Yeah.... Honestly, that kind-of makes sense.
"I just think that them there genders are just determined by the thing between your legs!" (eats sandwich with her feet)
The anti-Wanda is too stupid to be mean though. She'd just eat a lightbulb with ranch dressing while anti-Cosmo explains his opinions on the subject. If you seen how regular Cosmo acted in this episode, you'd know how happy he was to be a girl. Also girl Cosmo is hot imo.
@@Hauntakuanti-wanda is still smarter than your average terf tbf
The genderbeing trope, many a trans person's awakening lol
Shame we don't get as many genderbeing episodes any more because transphobes get triggered by everything.
I don't like genderbending episodes because they're often sexualized
@@tomboytriste ist the point of does episodes to show how bs standards
@@Pablo_Martin_aanot always. Sometimes they don't even point out how weird it is that the person genderbent is suddenly sexualized or a massive stereotype when they weren't either of those things before
I think there's a new adventure time distant lands coming out about Fiona and Cake? (The gender swapped adventure time characters)
@@tomboytristealso a lot of the time it's "the boys and girls are swapped", and non binary people get left out
0:01 YOU WHAT?!?!
there's a whole anime / manga about a boy who turns into a girl with cold water. it's called Ranma. when i was a kid i remember watching random episodes because it kinda shocked me in a good way (?). i watched some episodes even months ago and the anime really loves to hold on to the binary and gender roles. personally i dont know yet if i belong to a certain flavour of genderqueer yet but i 100% know that being able to change my body completely (almost) whenever i want is my dream. the gender envy is there.
I am pretty ssure it was to comment on gendr, but yah the benefit is that yeah ranma is himself while both, he can be a jerk, and opportunistic, and expüloitative, and the use anything you can. Yeop he is the same, but gets more comfortable.
But he clewarly has dysphoria too, else he would not go that out of the way to like be fully a guy.
So its opf cours trans too.
Actually 🤓 Ranma is a pretty bad anime. Iconic yes, but drenched in subtle transphobia.
Ranma turns into a girl with cold water and turns into a boy with warm water.
@@leebulger7112 oh you're right! I wrote "warm water" cause I vaguely remembered that everytime he took a bath he transformed into a girl, but internet says otherwise.
I love that sometimes, Ranma was just hanging out in her girl form, like it's no big deal. Then Kuno or Happosai do something pervy and he wants to change back.
when I first came out, I remember really wishing that more guys would be into "feminine" things and vice versa, mostly just because I wanted to dress and do whatever I wanted, but I was tired of being immediately singled out as queer for enjoying things I liked
An entire kids show whose concept is gender swap is SheZow, the boy main character inherits his aunt's powers but he turns into a girl when he uses those powers. Really interesting show, loved it as a kid
As a Trans girl watching this I had no idea what was actually going on in my brain and simply wondering why their weren't more episodes where boys turned into girls because they were always the best episodes and obvioussly everyone thought this way. XP
Ok but like... I didn't know there was a Barbie princess comic, and that outfit is freaking FIRE on that cover. 🔥🔥🔥
As a cis man, put the damn toilet seat down.
Not sure what people mean by put the seat down tbh. There's the lid and the seating ring. Does the lid go down too or just the ring? Eh, has nothing to do with me since I sit.
As an AMAB who is possibly a trans woman, I always keep the seat down since I always sit regardless.
Update: Came out as trans!
Look sometimes you just need to sit down and even if you don't have to take a sitting down and taking a piss kind of helps your legs and give it to you in excuse
@@Hauntaku After I use the toilet, I always put the seat and the lid down before flushing. Keeps the bacteria from spreading all over the bathroom.
yea just put the lid down so poop particles aint flying all over, also probably decreases the likelihood of u dropping stuff in the toilet from it being open all the time lol
As a trans man who spent a whole lot of time as an eggy woman, I really didn't empathize with fellow women at all until I 'gender swapped'. I realized how much better I'm now treated as soon as I started passing as a man, so I realized how bad I was treated as a woman. It's almost like I didn't believe that I was really treated that badly, so I was annoyed with other women for complaining about it. Only once I transitioned did I really start to deconstruct my internalized misogyny. Totally the reverse scenario. Looking back it makes sense how at 12 years old I was cruel to women because of how much I hated girliness and 'girl things', but yea thinking misogynistic and gender essentialist thoughts is still something I worry heavily about as a former transmed. It still feels awkward and shameful to like 'girl things', except with a whole new layer cos now ppl use it to tell me I'll always be a woman. When that happens, I usually say well sure, that past experience of womanhood is a part of me still, and I look back fondly on the woman I used to think I was. That's not the most PC way of talking about things but I really just wanna treat the woman I thought I was with kindness, instead of the disdain she treated other women with.
Thank you for sharing. I went through something similar, though to a lesser extent I would say. That last paragraph really resonates with me. I think it's really important to treat past versions of ourself with kindness, even if (and especially when) we're glad we're not like that anymore. And hey, at the very least that person is what got me here!
@17:07 not me getting teary over a 20 year old cartoon girl making and losing her best friend in one day.
It sucks we didn't get to see more of Trixie's interest in dude stuff in the show, that had so much story potential
I remember reading a bunch of gender swapping manga growing up. All about girls turning into/pretending to be boys. I really loved the genre. Really shoulda realized the trans thing years ago lol
I read a manga where a character pretends to be a girl (it's not entirely clear if they are or not) and they manage to make it into the contest to determine who gets to join a huge polycule. The character reveals (in a very gross way) that they lied to get in the polycule. The fun thing is that the boss of the polycule stops her assistant from doing something hasty and instead offers the character a spot in the polycule as long as they become a eunich (meaning get sterilized and don't participate in sexual activities. This manga takes place in Japan and was written a long time ago so it aged poorly) The character shouts no way and is taken out of the competition. The key takeaway here is that they COULD have been a member of the polycule and that there are trans characters in the polycule already. The manga is outdated, but I'd love to see an updated version it in anime form.
This is the ONLY moment in the manga that is objectively poorly written.
@Hauntaku sounds like if it was rewritten for a modern audience it could be pretty good.
during the "nonbinary people are from behind you. right now. don't turn around" bit i turned around and was met with my shadow. fair.
Butch Hartman really missed out on the chance to call it Femmes-dale
Dexter's Lab episode of Boy Named Sue felt like a transgender version of no homo like everything is so on the nose and direct its like someone was trying to write a trans origin story without actually making the character trans.
*Man*dark
Susan Astronominov is Mandark's deadname.
I remember as a not yet trans person when Cosmo got pregnant and I was like wow
this episode is unfortunately a big part of my earlier experiences of realizing that i am trans and i feel that that is not what butch hartman wanted to do at all.
Butch Fartman: * creates this episode *
Eggs: * cracking noises *
Butch Fartman: "Oh no."
Eggs: * hatch *
Butch Fartman: "Oh no!"
Eggs: * wave a trans flag *
Butch Fartman: "NOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"
Still took me till the age of 22 to realize I’m trans after watching this episode despite really wishing I could make that wish, I can still remember the excitement or just the feelings this episode brought when I first saw it. Today is the 1 year Anniversary of my egg cracking and I’ve been on estrogen for 8 months in 12 days
pregnant cosmo was an obsession to younger me and now i understand why
As good as this episode is, I can't help but feel Butch Hartman would not be supportive of the trans community
He hates the trans community. He'd be very grumpy if people decided to draw more Timantha art and write fanfiction about Timantha being trans.
@@HauntakuWhy? He probably doesn't consider Timantha a trans thing.
@@Badgerpaw apparently Hartman is very upset by trans/generally queer interpretations of his characters
Mainly when those interpretations center around Timmy Turner or Danny Phantom (that or those are just the more common ones)
I only pushed passed some toxic masculinity thinking of mine during the last few years. I'm a girl who grew up with this show and episodes like it, and the discussion of trans/nonbinary inclusion has done more to help me become more well rounded in things I like than any of the conservative line in the sand thinking
A more extreme but similar example with sexual assault (brutal SA tw): in the Doctor Who spinoff Torchwood, a main character named Owen is a complete a-hole who isn't above using alien tech to brainwash people into sex. But then in episode 3, when he finds a machine that transmits to him the real time feelings of a women who is raped and killed- suddenly his empathy and whole character shifts in a dramatic way.
This plot was also used in a spectacular way to make us suddenly empathise with a basically comepletely unempathisable character, as the experience permanently changed him.
Certainly most shows won't go as dark as Torchwood did, but an interesting similar 'character is forced to empathise by living it' in some way.
I was soo envious of Trixie being able to pass as a boy so easily.
I'll never forget the sheer egg cracking force of playing a quest in Runescape when I was little that required that my character use a potion to change genders. They offered a free swap back after the quest was done, but I just left my character that way. Something about it felt *right* to my little egg brain.
I love that Johnny Bravo episode. Imagine if it came out today and all the misogynists got triggered and shot their TVs. "back in mah day cartoons weren't woke", yes they were, you just weren't freaked out over everything.
As a trans woman, his episode made me upset and sad as a kid because I wished fairies were real so i could wish i were a girl.
Honestly I always thought Timmy was trans as a kid even before I knew what that meant. "Huh his parents seemed to always get his gender wrong he must have wished to be a boy"
I mean his initials are TT, he's on T, it's decided.
Because his parents really thought he was gonna be a girl, and the fact that in the episode he wishes he was never born, his parents have a daughter! So to me, Timmy Turner is a trans guy.
I love the effort and degree of detail you put into your video. But I think that the episode „It's A Wishful Life“ could have been referenced as it deals with an alternate reality in which instead of Timmy a girl is born in to his family. To me it was always a great metaphor on how as trans people, we, I , in the past have felt like a burden to the people around me. At times rejecting who i am. As Timmy in the end feels like should not have been born, he portrays the danger of unaliving if children, especially those who are trans, don’t feel accepted.
Can we just talk about how pleasant Lily’s voice is
Like honey 🐝
anyone else remember that episode of The Amazing World of Gumball where he's forced to wear his mom's wedding dress, essentially cross-dressing and deciding to go along with his genderbent persona; then his brother falls in love with the feminine version of him???
A cool part of the episode is how his sister calls him pretty. She's supportive!
"I want more kids!"
*Starts Sobbing*
It's more than that. Iirc a long as he was wearing the dress, everything went great for him, but as soon as he loses it his life returns to being an endless series of mishaps.
"timothy turner" sounds so weird lol, i dont think ive ever heard him referred to by his full name
Sucks that this episode would cause unending rage if it came out now.
This episode is so much better than I remember it being, I think I confused it a bit in my head with the Dexter's Laboratory episode where he turns himself into a girl so he can find out what's in the girls bathroom and it turns out all women's bathrooms are hyper feminine alternate dimensions. I'm also impressed that this episode exists the way it does considering everything I know about Butch Hartman
I think my favorite running joke in the queer community is saying something like "let me be straight" or "ill get straight to the point" and ending it with a joke about how they are in fact not straight
My favorite was Totally Spies. It made me realize that girls could be boys and have long hair. Its been years but i still think about it
I never watched Fairly Odd Parents as a kid, so I was VERY confused when I started stumbling across genderswap art of Timmy and Johnny some years ago preceding my egg-cracking.
Transmasc here. Genderswap episodes one hundo inspired me before I even knew that trans was a thing I could be. The specific one I remember was a chapter of a manga called Ultra Maniac about teenage girls and witches. Early on the witch character turns herself and her human friend into boys to go to a party with their crushes. Not only were their male versions super cute and popular it just seemed like they had such a great time. It made me think that man...if only I could be a boy, I bet I would have such a great time as well LOL. I think it especially struck a chord with me because I hadn't really seen a female-to-male gender swap episode before. In general I know they can be somewhat problematic but I'll always continue to love genderbend / cisswap / ect ideas, episodes, and art. Gender play is just really fun, sue me.
I won't sue you, but I will support you, brother. :]
You are banging these out so fast lately! It’s worth noting that the title of the episode is probably a reference to “The Man Who Would Be Queen”, a pop “science” book by noted transphobe J Michael Bailey. So the creators at least had some cognition that they were making a trans related episode, albeit likely lacking a healthy perspective on what trans people actually are like.
This episode actually predates that book
@@hannahhannah7002 Oh does it really? My bad, I didn’t realize how long ago Fairly Odd Parents came out.
@@evieeevee ikr absolutely wild. It does result in the arguably funnier scenario where the anti trans book is in reference to the Fairly Odd Parents
I think we should make all of Butch’s characters trans just to piss him off 👏👏👏 Loved the analysis by the way, you’re videos are always SO GOOD 🥺
“Women are from Neptune (?probably??), men are from Detroit, and NB people are RIGHT BEHIND YOU”
I nearly choked on my drink I laughed so hard. You are a treasure, thank you for making such thoughtful videos. ❤️
i was kinda obsessed with this episode as a kid. i would go to comic stores with my dad all the time as a kid, liked dresses and skirts but also more “boyish” clothes, and i would often have shorter or midlength hair cuts.
cut to my early 20s and i’m a post-top feminine trans guy lol. trying to place myself nicely into societal expectation of “girls” and “boys” is what made it so hard for me to realize i just am a guy who likes girly things because i was told if i likes any girly things then i must be a girl.
sorry for the ramble, but this and other gender swap episodes of cartoons in the 2000s and 2010s always had hooks in my brain lol
For someone as stupidly conservative as Butch, he somehow managed to do a 180 and made one of the most undercoated-but-is-it-really queer kids shows.
I mean I barely remember a lot of Fairly odd parents but most of the things I do remember is just, very queer coded it’s amazing
(I mean there is literally the episode where Timmy’s parents thought they were having a girl and bought girly things and would still put him in dresses…I mean come on)
Ten year old me always believed Timmy would wish to be Timmantha again to spend time with Trixie. It really broke my heart Timantha or even a Trixie / Timmy friendship didn't come back.
Oh, could you do a video on the episode of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina where each of the main characters gets shown a nightmarish vision of their worst fears coming true and Theo's is a transmasc nightmare where they have to mutilate their own body. Really dark jarring episode.
Yeah, as someone who thought I was a cis girl at that time I was able to watch that at the time but now with my gender crisis I just can't rewatch that one.
One of my most egg moments was thinking “Why would he want to go back to being a boy? She’s clearly happier as a girl. I know I wouldn’t want to change back.”
I appreciated this so much lol
The experience of fixating on gender swap episodes is crazy relatable.
You always seem to know what I like
The part where trixy felt sad about her friend not showing up really hits home because when i moved cities i didnt have any friends, was hard to make friends as a slightly feminine gay man even though I like video games and mangas
My one friend was a girl who everyomr liked and her favorite manga to read was Berserk
It was great having someone who i can game with and be myself around and learn about new manga/share and watch anime that she didnt know about
Then, her parents had to move to a new military base and my only real friend/connection was gone and i felt what true lost was as a kid
The whole Body-Swap =/= Gender Swap thing is pretty easy to parse, I'd say so I agree with your continued "He/him"-ing.
I mean, is Your Name about trans curiosity? Not really.
Wait... is it?
This episode instantly catapulted Trixie to my #1 in TFO. She acts the exact same as one of my old friends IRL, who herself faced backlash over liking "boy things", and really didn't (and currently doesn't from my sources) have many friends because of it. I just really wish she didn't ruin it right at the end.
On a side note, why does she look at least 16 in her normal outfit but actually 10 in the disguise when she loses her hat? I genuinely forget she's the same age as Timmy sometimes because of her design and the disguise really put into perspective how young she truly is.
Gender swap stories can both be trans in the sence that the character might gueniuenely be trans or genderfluid, but also if the character is cis, because in their time as that gender they are still identifying as their starting gender, they are trans for the amount of time they are genderswapped
7:57 how dare you give me the vivid mental image of ben shapiro doing the mr crocker "FAIRY GOD PARENTS" tic
This was my favorite episode as a kid and I could never understand why. It was just my favorite. End of story.
Turns out I was trans the whole time. Makes sense now that I look back.
When I was a kid there was this show called Nightmare Ned. I rewatched an episode titled "Girl Trouble" before leaving this comment. It's better than I remember. I don't know if anyone has heard of it, but it stuck with me for a long time and I was really young when I saw it, like, one time. Very early 90's style to it. Also, I love the comment section. I really didn't expect to se such heartwarming and beautiful stories about other people's experiences. It was so great. Thanks for what you are doing. It means a lot.
My nonbinary ass got some weird second hand when the whole literally splitting the world in half and putting men on one side an women on the other. Like my heart f*cking dropped. Even though it's an entirely fictional scenario, it felt so uncomfortable to even think about.
Nonbinary dysphoria is weird.
Since i was a kid i thought that timmy was trans. He connected with me as someone who needed help and better parental figures. It meant a lot to me as a kid, even if Butch Hartman didnt intend for it to come off that way it doesnt matter because it helped me know who i am.
there were so many genderswap episodes on kids shows back in the day
As a kid this episode totally stuck with me 😅 just a little egg loving genderbent cartoons 🤣
This episode, along with lots of other gender swap episodes, definitely was noticed by my brain, but being a child and all it was was basically a note to "put a pin in this for later." I'm not trans now, I've thought about it a lot and it's just not something I identify with, but it definitely helped me push out of my gender norms a lot more in terms of how I present myself. I remember even the most minor things like mentioning I saw Tangled with my family in theaters and saying that I got a haircut to people in elementary school was enough to get called girly or generally have my masculinity made fun of, so I really do hope that the next generation of kids aren't nearly as gender strict as we were/still are. That shows in general will be less one off with these moments and more embracing of breaking the mold.
Trans guy here! I remember watching this episode as a girl and thinking Trixie being into more dude-ish things like me was awesome as a kid. Even though she is not Transmasc, that was pretty cool to me as a kid.
I’m the nonbinary people and I still turned around in shock like “another one??”
4:35 the best part of saying “they can see you” is you never know if its a single nonbinary person or a whole heard waiting to trans your gender.
I'm not trans nor I normally look for gender related video essays to entertain me during breakfast, but I'm glad I decided to watch this one. It was interesting
I really like your way of explaining and I'll continue to watch your videos
I loved this gender swap episode as a kid because I'm super femme like Trixie and have always felt the need to hide all the "boy" interests I had(until I found a healthier, well-rounded group of friends). I liked both dresses and makeup and I liked watching action movies with car chases and explosions. So this episode of Fairly Odd Parents was validating for me. Like sure, I still felt I had to hide or downplay my interests, but I at least felt validated that I wasn't the only one who had interests like I did.
This is something I like about modern TV. Continuity is actually taken seriously. Before the twenty-tens, almost every show, whether it was a kids' cartoon or a live action sitcom, would maintain a status quo. Character growth was rare because characters were defined by a set of traits. Trixie was a bimbo who overly cared about her image, if she learned something during this episode, then she'd have to change. That just didn't happen at the time. Today, character growth is considered vital for a show to be good.
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Defend the political centre 7 times
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Yeah, I remember watching this episode and being really disappointed that Trixie doesn’t act this way in any other episode. It would have been great if she and Timmy could have remained friends
I personally like the reminders at the end because i always forget to ngl, amazing video btw. Also the cosmo MPREG arc(?) is 100% a writers barely disguised fetish
Cosmo’s voice in the pilot was weird.
Also I enjoyed this episode when I was younger, not exactly a kid but still. The jokes about who women were expected to be were funny even though they were not the best, mainly because I found the restrictions stupid but constantly reinforced, for everyone.
This is the first time I've stumbled into one of your videos but I absolutely adore your voice and can listen you talk about anything
I absolutely loved this show when I was a kid!
13:40 Toilet seats: Leaving the lid open while flushing is nasty. It splashes toilet water all over.🤢
I still remember very good how my kids brain had the good sterotype of girls and boys don't play together.
So new Neigbors come we play, she fell starts bleeding blabla. Next day at school she came to me and talked to said it wasn't bad and i felt like no one should see that we talk together/played.
it was 2nd classs or so but I still remember it. So traumatic.
also I had a good female friend in kindergarden but I thought she is a boy as she played with shark figures from a cartoon I also watched. Not traumaticing, just dumbness as we really were great friends.
I’m genuinely surprised at how many good quality videos you put out and so frequently. Excellent stuff.
Also I vaguely remembered this episode, but I was expecting it to be really bad on rewatch. So I’m somewhat relived to learn it was actually pretty okay.
There was a whole gender swap kid’s cartoon called SheZow about a boy who gets a ring that can transform him into a superhero but specifically a girl superhero. He still preferred his male identity
As a trans woman named Timmi, this episode was a core memory for me growing up. I haven't seen parts of it since and I'm glad it has parts that are a positive message. I will never forget the jealousy I felt towards timmi tho
Hey Lily, I love your videos! I also love the Fairly Odd Parents (not Butch Hartman though). I started rewatching Pokémon Indigo League. (I know you've done Pokémon on a now defunct channel) but idk if it holds up with its trans representation. Okay there's the obvious episode where James gets boobs but there are episodes where both Team Rocket and Ash crossdress for various reason. I think the one where Ash crossdress is a bit to unpack because it's where he breaks into the Celadon City gym. Maybe this can be a topic worth discussing.
The whole Celadon Gym thing (that you have to like perfume OR be a girl to even challenge it) I genuinely wonder if it’s a Japanese culture thing. The frequency with which Jesse and James “crossdress” makes a lot of people (like me) say that they’re genderqueer and/or trans. James is a gay transman and Jesse is a transbian and they’re also found family 😂
The little 'non binary people are behind you' just gave me such a happy feeling as a closeted enby.
I kept trying to clean my screen, turns out your wall is dirty ❤
unfortunately renting at not owning the walls means i work with what I've got
Yet another reason to behead landlords
I loved that bathroom overreaction gag!
the part where you say non binary people are behind me was really funny bc my partner is in fact nb and they were also behind me while I was watching this video
I highly recommend you cover either the episode “Carpet Diem” or “Dipper vs. Manliness” from Gravity Falls.
If you’re unfamiliar with the show, it’s about twin siblings Dipper and Mabel, who are staying in a town called Gravity Falls for the summer with their uncle Stan. This town, however, is home to all sorts of supernatural phenomena. Also, Dipper is a (not outright stated, but heavily coded) trans man. Fight me.
Carpet Diem isn’t a traditional gender swap, but it has some of the same properties. In the episode, Dipper and Mabel (who are opposite genders) swap bodies. The episode focuses on their experiences as each other’s genders, even more so than their experiences in each other’s bodies. Cause… well… they’re identical twins. It’s canon, the show’s creator said so.
In Dipper vs. Manliness, Dipper is made fun of for not being “manly.” He’s called out for his lack of physical strength and his affinity for the pop sensation BABBA (a parody of ABBA). So, Dipper goes on a quest to prove to everyone that he really is a man. By the end of the episode, he stands up for what he believes in, which is considered a manly thing to do.
The kitten analogy was surprisingly good.
Wait a tick. Is that Mizzix of the Izmagnus on the wall right there?
On the egg analogy; would a trans polycule be an omelet?
I was listening on headphones and the audio switched to the truck right when lily said “the male becomes pregnant” and I want to cry