TCA vs TRI PRC-152 Highlights and Functions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video i will be covering a few of the main features and functions of these replica PRC-152 radios. If you have any questions or want me to cover something specific, just leave a comment.
This is the video I've been waiting for someone to do to help with making my decision on which one to get...lol haven't even got half way through the video yet but already just want to say thank you!
Thank you! I apologize for the poor narration, its a work in progress!
Thanks for fueling my obsession
I wish someone could make this video but with the newest TRI
Awesome video. In your opinion, what radio would you pick over the other and why? Im petty sold on the TCA 152, although the newer TRI 152 metal bois look solid too. I’m slowly getting into the radio game so I apologize in advance for my naiveness
Nice solid info. Thanks for your time.
Next video should be about detailed and kind of best set up
I can do that! what sort of details and set up would you like to see? any feedback helps!
@@fatjtaclarper2787 i though something about basics of comms mechanics(
physics), menu setup, basics programming and configuration of PRC,working/not working
accessories, basics of comms mechanics(
physics) ...
A lot of people included me are on very end user level of using on/off+ frequency or maybe even dithering which radio they should get.
@@janstain9320 thanks for the feedback! I'll come up with a video for both the TCA and TRI with those attributes!
@@fatjtaclarper2787 can they do coded frequencies so I can transmit on repeaters? Thanks for the video
@@james3672 I believe they are capable of TPL's and CTCSS like any other average Chinese ham copy.
I love the use of the euphemism "functional replica".. It has however encourage me to obtain one of my own.
Appreciate this video. I've been seeing these radios come across my feed lately and I've been considering purchasing one. I think I may pass on it now that I see the only thing "special" about it is, , , it looks military. Thanks, Brother.
jd
Thanks for the watch! If you ever have a question, feel free to ask!
@@fatjtaclarper2787 WILCO.
Make a functional video please! Basics are easy. Lets see some advaned stuff. Thank you so much for your knowledge!
Best
Hey man, appreciate the input, I haven't forgotten to do the programming video yet, but I have decided that I will be updating both radios to their newer versions!
Will have info to you soon.
I love how you said it’s a baofeng on steroids because I’ve been trying to preach this to people 😂
You should mention that newer 2020 TCA PRC152A Multiband Radio, has Tapered Rotary Knob, different with Wideband version (Cylindrical Rotary Knob）
can out Put Max 10W Power if uses Real Harris PRC152 Battery
. There is few different versions of both TCAs and TRIs. Perhaps clarifying that would be good
idea.
Seeing as I don't have either the new TRI or the new TCA I don't think it was really relevant to the video. This was strictly more of a functions highlight, not an in depth comparison.
Although if you'd like to donate some new TCA's or TRI's to the channel for field testing, we accept donations!
@@fatjtaclarper2787 Actually I don't think new TCA is out yet. Any day though.
Any idea if the Triumph 152 (new model) is compatible with the genuine Harris KDU and cable? As of late. I cannot get the KDU to work. All links I have found have suggested that the pin out of the 32 pin connector cannot support function of the original Harris KDU.
As far as im aware of, both new versions do have an scrambler/low-bob encryption.. are they are compatible with the scrambler?
Hey great video! I was wonderng if you know where can in get a used one like yours since Ebay only does have New ones? Thanks!
Also one brand works on dynamic mics one doesn't.
Fistmic will not work if it's TCA.
TRI 5.5-6 volts on Fpin
TCA 3-3.5volts on Fpin,
TCA uses fpin for programming, TRI fpin for powering accessories like Harris fist mic or selex tacmics etc.
Can it feed a invisio v60 with power? Nope.
TCA as pushes out 3.5 volts if your lucky, and will just about hold its own.
Genuine mbitr push out 5.5/6 volt and that's the difference.
The output voltage of the fpin is not regulated by the output power of the radio RF power.
TCA is a maximum of 3.5volts, if you Tx on high power that 3.5 will drop.
This is why 90% of powered accessories will not work with TCA but do work with TRI, the Harris fist mic has the same problem in that it will not work.
Px-airsoft have 2 version of mic and headphones, re-production and the real version I got one for 80buck and it works fine without no errors even with that ivisio v60 with the TCA-radio
So TCA is better than PRI?Thanks
How do you go about programming one of the 152s
You can do it by hand...if you like pressing a million buttons. There are programming cables and software available on eBay.
@@aaronm9478 For the TRI or the TCA. I have found nothing for the TRI version and I am having issues programming
It’s 4 am I have nothing to do with the army never will yet I’m still watching this and actually find it interesting XD
I like the gooseneck antennas better
Hey there. Loved the video and the radios, been hunting for a video reviewing these to the depth you’re going. Where do you recommend purchasing the TCA? Thank you!
Honestly you're going to roll the dice with any of the Chinese providers on Ebay. A few airsoft specialist stores still carry them but id double check the stock/inventory accuracy before buying. The group on Facebook "TCA/TRI Mbitr sales group" actually has people you can directly contact and talk to buy one.
@@fatjtaclarper2787 thank you for the reply man! I’ll look into it. I do airsoft myself and one of these would go great with my milsim load out
@@kevinwhite2990 you bet, this channel is going to be dedicated to coms use in milsim so if you have anything you want to see, don't be afraid to drop a suggestion.
@@fatjtaclarper2787 definitely earned my sub💪💪💪
I think TCA is 5W, not 10.
I have Field tested Baofeng vs TCA... Baofeng wins all the way. At 300m between buildings, the emission with the the TCA is noisy as fck. With the baofeng sound is cristal clear .
I would really like a test between TRI and TCA at certain distances (not only receiving but mainly emitting).
Thx !!!
Boafeng has now a AR-152 on Amazon for $118 US Dollars
Thats pretty ballsy of baofeng to ask that much for a poorly scaled model.
Maybe I can head to Afghanistan to grab a few of these from the friendly neighborhood Taliban for a discount. 😉
Seriously tho...good video.
My question is, is this programable for repeater offsets and ctcss/dcs for repeater tones?
I think the TRI version is. Look up "callmecolt"
Hi ! Nice review of those two product !!
You say at approx 10:20 that we can’t transmit data with the TRI/TCA but in the manufacturer description it sayed they have DTMF encoder / decoder so... we can’t transmit 0 to 9 digit and A/B/C/D/*/# ?
Because if we can, it is sufficient to transmit coordinates !
I don't say anything data related at 10:20, I was talking about the PTT options at that time stamp.
@@fatjtaclarper2787 oh yep sorry ! that was at 9:45 about digital transmission ! And we are ok on the fact that the 2 prc’s can’t break the waves into a digital format but, I think maybe we can have a pretty similar result with the DTMF encoder / decoder.
And sorry if I’m not totally clear, English is not my native language 😅
@@Skyray So the motorola DMR system is exclusive specific to Motorola, Hytera, and a few other manufactures. When I say digital in this case I a referring to the use of binary translation and color coded transmission that motorola uses for its MOTOTRBO series. This is also different from P25 Trunking. So the 152's are still limited in a digital voice capacity.
So otherwise how do these stack up for communication against Baofengs? Are they a higher quality radio with lower failure rate?
They’re metal and IPX7 so you can use it in the rain plus the new TRI one also has AM
Thank you.
Ok fully watched the video...my question: I've heard various feedback from users on both radios, where one is more EASIER out of the box to utilize your mil PTT whether it be a Peltor or U-94 mil PTT....and the other requiring a lil more setup going into the settings and switching it to AMP'd and just tweaking. I can't remember which one it was but...is one easier out of the box or if I was to purchase either, once received, charged, and freq plugged in, I can then just plug my ptt and poof tx/rx?
I'm currently utilizing the Baofeng UV-5R with my group and the disco 32 amped ptt's with comtac III's and so far that's been our comms setup. This would primarily be for cool guy/larping but also functional HAM/Radio use as well since they have that capability with of course its own limits.
For both the TCA and TRI i was able to plug the peltor PTT (6pin NATO) into both radios and TX/RX totally fine. No modification or setting tweak necessary. THAT BEING SAID, they both have PTT menu settings for specific capabilities, this *could* cause an impedance. Keep in mind i am using all REAL peltor stuff with these as well.
I will go more in depth on this in my next video.
Toys for wannabes. Really sad.
@@lasado27 Don't let the door hit your a** on the way out
@@pforcerecon lol. Are you even old enough to abbreviate a swear word? Does your mommy know you're talking like this.
@@lasado27 I get what you’re saying but some of us running ops core amps with nfmi headphones etc etc. It’s nice to be able to buy a NATO ptt directly instead of dealing with bullshit adaptors and a non waterproof baofeng.
Quantos Wats tem esse rádio tri prc 152
*Does it use a “direct conversion” receiver or a “super heterodyne” receiver?* This is important in that it’ll be able to filter out near and far interferences. While it’s externals may be a near perfect replica of the later military HT radios I used in the military. Which is cool and worth an overcharge. For an analog radio the differences is huge between the two different types of receivers, irregardless of the 10w transmit range increase. If you read this, no matter if you know the answer, thank you for the time. I can’t find the answer online anywhere and the prices are quite a bit high for an analog with Direct conversion, replica or not.
Probably a good question to ask of the Manufacturer. Might even be some info on their website(s). Can't find an actual website in a quick search, but they do have a Facebook page: facebook.com/TRIUMPHINSTRUMENT/?ref=page_internal
The china ass radios are NOT superhet. Bubble chip. There fine
What digital modulation is used and the bandwidth?
Is the battery on the plastic one twist lock as well ?
Seen some info regarding a “GPS panel” for the TCA, any insight as to what or how that functions?
is there possible connect a motorola radio with their band? i have the chance to buy one moto
I need references asap, i owned z tactical headset and about to purchase tri prc radio, but i heard it's not compatible, my questions are:
1. What makes it incompatible? Is it because the radio itself or the ptt from TRI just couldn't be pluged in? If it's only because the PTT itself are there any compatible PTT brand that could connect between ztac headset and TRI radio?
2. What about tca radio and ptt? are they compatible with z tac? I really don't want to spend another money to get TRI version headset
What are the stickers on the batteries? Random but looks like frequency references
@FatJTACLarper; I just ran across your video. Interesting subject matter here. BTW, how did you work out your thumbnail ID?
Do you need an FCC license to communicate on these radios? Also, will they still be usable after an EMP? (God forbid it ever comes to that.) Would appreciate any input if anybody knows. Thanks in advance.
These operate on VHF/UHF frequencies so yes you will need a license. You can get your HAM Technicians license failure easily online nowadays. As for EMP I have no idea lol
You would need a radio with tubes
Where I'd you buys these at?
Bought mine from facebook group
Is the TCA 10 Watta on high? Or just the TRI the 10 watt radio?
What about the Baofeng AR-152?
HELP how do you do a factory RESET ON tca/prc 152a
Serious question is this is for air soft and larping/ enjoyment or can this be used for like a bug out bag
It has literally the exact same features a "bug out bag" radio does.
Your only issue there would be battery options.
hey how do you put the left harris on channel mode?
What kind of impedance do these have? Are they 50 ohms?
Aside from larping, is there any reasons to go with a PRC replica over something like a Yaesu?
I would say that the usage of 6pin NATO connectors are the real benefit to these over a Yaesu or Baofeng.
Other then that they are pretty much comparable across the board to your standard dual band portables.
These days more and more companies are making Peltor plugs and antenna adapters for Chinese radios as well.
@@fatjtaclarper2787 Yeah. I saw Disco32 makes U94 PTT's for a lot of commercial stuff like Kenwood, Baofeng, Yaesu that go with Sordins and Peltors.
which one covers satcomm freqs? lol
Just wondering looking at getting one this week. Which of the new models is better the TRI or the TCA?
Id still go with the TCA, the interface really just sells itself over the TRI. That being said, i have not had a chance to field test the newest models.
NEW FCS PRC 152
@@fatjtaclarper2787 Where are the freq stickers from (Something)spec.com
@@SGTPlays missionspec.com frequency chart
If you Google that ^ its the first PDF that pops up.
@@fatjtaclarper2787 thank you!
Hi! I’m having a problem with the TCA model, when we use like a hand radio there is no problem, however when we try to connect the radio to the Amplifier And Power Supply Mount (maybe a cradle) the radio starts doing a beeping sound that doesn’t go. Can you help?
Maybe the voltage is wrong
Hello, one of our guys left his antenna out when the ramp closed... Im looking to get a replacement antenna for a falcon 3. Do you think one of the antennas from this manufacturer would work for it?
If its the same connector yes it will work but they can look the same (the antenna it self) but function worse because of the antenna design
But seeing this antenna is $100 and the original on Aliexpress is $200, both probably work fine
@@Roshan_420 i actually got the antenna and it works better than the original. Was further most from our squad and could hear the guys from far left, while the guys in the middle were receiving bad signal. Even though my radio was set on low. Cant remember rn but the operating frequency range is higher too on this one.
Where can I buy the TCA?
I've been looking these, @FatJTACLarper can you recommend a trusted source to purchase from?
i have a tri and it sucked i always had bad audio reports on the repeaters and crap antennas
Where can i get one
ebay
Can you run 256 AES?
silly question- can these be used in conjuction with standard 7 channel walkies?
Yes, you can type in their frequency or program it via pc
would you recommend either of these for a shtf scenario. I'd like something better than my beofeng
Yaesu Vx-8 series... milspec 810 and 510 rated...
Hi, I have the newest metal body TRI PRC-152 and I was wondering do I need to use the TRI push to talk or will the new one work with any 6 pin push to talk?
Most if not all Military accessories will work with the TRI model, I have the newest model and I’ve been able to use a wide range of accessories with zero issues. Also just an FYI the Encryption does work! Hands down best option out there compared to the TCA and Bfang radios. * IMO *
@@godzproject1758 wait what?! The encryption works on a tri??? So I can pay like 500$ for a tri radio and have the same encryption as on a 8.000$ Thales??
What conectors are in the antenna this Type Of Military Radio uses? for example My baofeng uses sma female
TNC
@@L3S451 thanks bro god bless
Funny enoughh TNC are similar with BNC (that are coming from amateur radio world) but TNC are threaded, while BNC are not. Otherwise the same.
you sell these radios?
Do you know a radio that fits the ops core ptt?
Shouldnt be above 450$
Any radio with a standard 6pin Nato connector.
No chance that they can operate with comsec keys on CT? 😆
Dagger SKL and kdu. Not included lol
@@mikewallace1098 😂😂😂😂 fuck loading keys. Whoops Zeroize
Do not forget the FCA (falcon 152 clone)
I don't have one of those either lol
What Motorola radio is that?
XPR6550
How do you make the audio come out of the comtacs. Even with them plugged in it always comes out of the PTT
I have the exact same issue!
@@BJU207 figured it out. go to the speaker option in the menu and set it to internal
@@2Pac7Amaru7shakur Thanks dude, I'll try that !
Um what's the menu called? I havn't touch this in ages, even when I did I had a hard time maneging, the menus xD
@@BJU207 should just be the up and down buttons on the side of the radio. I'm pretty sure that's how you cycle threw the menu. This video helped me th-cam.com/video/7c3qwQ8fLOc/w-d-xo.html
So neither of these two are technical DMR?
Nope. Both are analog.
@@fatjtaclarper2787 what benefit for digital other than in theory better sound ?
@@TheDwchan You can connect to your local repeater with your DMR and that repeater can talk to winlink (internet connection) and then you can talk with entire world.
@@abccde3832 do you need license or exam for DMR?
@@TheDwchan Laws differs from country to country. That said since you talk with entire world you need to know etiquetee and get login name and password. And for that you need licence. If you are into radios, check out facebook of your closest local radio amateur clubs to see if this is interest to you.
the newer tri are 15w
I have the programming cable and the software
Do you need a ham liscenes
Not with allocated frequencies in the GMRS/FRS frequencies and the MURS frequencies.
@@fatjtaclarper2787 thanks
May I ask what you mean bye replica ???
Means this radios are not made by Harris but by Chinese companies that mimic Harris radios as close as possible for our enjoymenent. Since real Harris radios are hard to get, unavailable for public, and if rare subjects escape in a wild they hold a price of a used car.
Battery life for the tca?
On high power mode you're looking at about 6 hours (frequent use). So about 9 hours of frequent use from full charge. I have not tested it with real Harris batteries yet.
arent they like $70k flatrate, the real ones?
To be honest, I have no idea how much real 152's are. Or in this case what Harris sells them to the government for.
I know I've seen a few real ones pop up on ebay for around the 10k mark. Honey pot as fuck tho
@@fatjtaclarper2787 must be worth every penny.
@@thatonescrambler I don't think it would work properly without the proper programming equipment honestly, and you would have to spend alot of time learning SINGAR and time slotting!
@@fatjtaclarper2787 I misspoke, brass must think they're worth every penny to be worth as much as a house.
Last time I saw the values, it was around $5k for a normal 152, and $30k for the GPS capable ones.
Are these just glorified baofengs?
I mean, did you watch the video lol
@@fatjtaclarper2787 No
@@blbreptiles4126 Amazing
@@fatjtaclarper2787 are they?
@@blbreptiles4126 Would put them slightly above baoefeng, well at least TCA and FCS 152.
Why buying replicas ??? The motorola is perfect …
Motorola's also aren't dual band. Most people at these events are running baofengs, so it makes more sense to adapt to communication methods rather then expecting everyone to know Motorola CPS and invest in them.
Plastic can crack, eventhough motorolas are tought. TCA/TRI/FCS they connect to mics, ears pros, comms, all rugged genuine stuff, Can handle whip antennas with TNC connectors well since its all metal ( SMA on plastic radios are a lot more fragile) and swapable Harris batteries.
You NEED an FCC license to even be touching the ptt button. Don't just go out and buy one of these and think, "I'm just milsim" it's a $10k fine for FCC ham radio licensure violation!
That is 1000% incorrect, you DO NOT NEED a ham lisence if you are allocated on the correct frequencies, don't be a ham fudd and don't spread false information.
"MURS is licensed by rule. This means an individual license is not required for an entity to operate a MURS transmitter if it is not a representative of a foreign government and if it uses the transmitter in accordance with the MURS rules outlined in 47 C.F.R."
"The FRS is authorized 22 channels in the 462 MHz and 467 MHz range, all of which are shared with GMRS. FRS is licensed by rule. This means an individual license is not required to operate an FRS radio provided you comply with the rules."
Imagine being this big of a fucking boomer lmao
Brah, seriously?