I'm always surprised how they use everyday, regular cleaning supplies and tools for ancient, fine art pieces, which make sense since they don't want the materials to be too harsh and damaging. It's the precision and patience in technique that is the most essential training for this job!
@@mitchv.7492 It's not the fact that they are not good conservators. It's the fact this is not a professional conservatorship. It's just an art college in NYC. They are all students. A college studio is not going to have the budget or means to have $30,000 cleaning supplies like the Smithsonian or the Louvre. This is why they get to work on junk thats already ruined and has little to no value to begin with. They would never be allowed to touch the Mona Lisa for example. The staff are all under 30 years old. If you find more high class art restorers they are usually in their 60s with 40 years of experience. They can fix 1/2 million dollar art pieces and not screw up once.
@@mitchv.7492 Yeah they are good conservators - just not the kind that have the skills to work on national and historical one of a kind pieces. There's so much art, not all of it is super valuable - these guys just work on the lower end art. I'll bet a lot of them probably get clients from the Antiques Roadshow referrals. The "I found this old painting at a yard sale and I want to clean it" type.
it’s so fascinating how we preserve art for hundreds and thousands of years. It’s one of our only connections the minds and ideas of the ones before us.
Wonderful work. I'm 68 and have repaired many pieces in my life with whatever I can think of that might work. You folks are professional. Satisfying to watch you work. Bravo.
She’s like we use a lot of technical instruments in the restoration. We use a spotlight so that we can see. It’s a very special light. It shines a spot.
The Baumgartner viewer in me heavily cringed at the juxtaposition of 'conservstor epoxy' and 'permanently attach'. It's just something that seems so wrong but clearly is what is needed sometimes
right! and drilling holes into it, too…. then again, this piece had been broken several times, and clearly needed some added stability. but still, permanently..?
I can answer to this ! I'm a MA student in objects conservation. While you don't want to use epoxy as a varnish on a painting, it is sometimes the only viable adhesive for heavy sculptures. Sometimes, every other adhesive would either be too weak, or grow too weak with time. In this case, the sculpture is definietly the most important part of the piece, and you can't risk it falling to the ground because the adhesvie in the base has aged. Also, this is for a private client, the object won't have the kind of protection museum pieces get, and so the conservation treatment has to account for that too. And in this case, the retouching and the plaster fills are reversible. So any potential yellowing of the epoxy isn't problematic. As far as drilling holes into it, it's a fairly common practice in sculpture conservation, again, it is necessary to acount for the weight of certain pieces. Stone and sculptures are not my specialism tho, so I can't say if it's necessary or not in this case, but it's definietly safer. Their are things I would question tho, for exemple the way it is sanded (not the sanding itself of the fill, that's necessary) and the polishing. Different areas of conservation have different ways of doing things, because in many cases some of the main principles of conservation are simply not directly applicable.
it is surprising the thing still exists! it is disaster waiting to happen! tiny column with flimsy base that serves as a shelf for disconnected statue probably heavier than the pedestal itself... like some cruel dare challenge in balancing for whoever ends up owning it!
😁because when I was little and was learning typing on an old typewriter machine, I decided to press space key twice every time as I thought it looked better visually, and then I got used to do it, and to leave one space after commas and full stops, and later transferred the habit to computer keyboard, and it got so engraved in my motion and brain that although I tried to exorcise it many times in later years I have never managed to do so, it just automatically occurs when I type without my influence...
@@lol-pj6ss hahaha no it was not! actually I can not shut up or stop writing once I start so I was usually asked to trim written works substantially, and I guess that would be the case even without using double space, but anyway, I live in Balkans, so in case I wanted to use it to cheat no one would notice, because nobody here notices things such as double spaced gaps!
It depends if it's storical or not this one cost about 12 k euros or more for the century old... But if you wanna buy a simple marble statue for your garden less than 200 euros about 150 and obviously more quality more money. The restauration this one particular about 3k
No, thats mostly right. I experiment a little with kintsugi, and even a rank amateur like me has developed better tricks for getting rid of excess material than just sanding it away.
@@pete3011 They know what they are doing. A sufficiently high-number grit glass paper will remove debris and leave the marble without detectable damage. Frankly, the polishing step scared me the most - the operator let the left end of the piece get really close to the other wheel!
I turned it off a minute in and came to the comments hoping to find someone equally annoyed by her hesitant, unrehearsed narration. Looks like a me problem from here clearly hahah
I'm not an artist, but I am artistic. I wish I would have known that you could make a career of doing that, 50+ years ago. The direction of my life would have been entirely different.
Fantastic work, thank you to everyone involved for sharing the process with us. I would love to see more repairs, or discussion of past repairs in a future video.
If it got broken twice already, I'd seriously think about putting a translucent scaffolding to support it better 🤔 Without getting visually too much on the way.
@@MrWolfSnack But if you look the top surface and the bust itself are just placed, not secured. So an LA morning earthquake would mean another trip to the restorators.
Lots of art museums are too poor to pay for every art piece to be supported or protected. Some million dollar art pieces are just protected with a sign. And though I don’t know if this art piece belongs in a museum, I guess things just break.
I’m just wondering if you could use marble and alabaster dust to create a glue to piece the pieces back together? I’m thinking that it would help with color matching. I don’t know anything about art restoration, I’m just curious if my idea would work. Thank you for a great video.
"gentle Surfactant detergent diluted with distilled water"...so there is some use for that last bit of bathroom soap with a bunch of water in it lol...😂😂
I probably dont know what I'm talking about but... Why can't you use ground marble and resin to mend the marble? I would think that would make a stronger more natural bond.
I am surprised they went with plaster to fill those cracks. Why not just use the clear epoxy.. wouldn't that have provided them with a more translucent effect?
I have a large antique marble 'winged victory or Nike' with a broken wing. I couldn't afford to have it profressionally repaired so I just place the broken wing beside it. Maybe one day.
May I suggest wrapping paper or plastic tape round the ferules of your cleaning brushes? I've done some delicate cleaning and it's too easy to scratch the sides of a deep recess while pushing the bristles into it.
Seeing it all set up at the end just gives me anxiety 😥 it looks like it could be easily knocked over, the bust is so top heavy, on a very narrow base, I’d have it backed into a right angled corner 😰😰😰
I thought they said alabaster is Prone to scratching? But when they were filling the crack on the base, they were sanding with different grits of sandpaper to get the excess plaster.
As much as I love the paint used to hide the cracks, I’m almost tempted to wish they had done this one Japanese technique where they put goldleaf in between cracks. I feel like cracks in marble or statues is just a great motif it reminds us of the ancient statues of Rome and grease, the gold with contrast the white of the marble very well. I also love the message behind not trying to hide one’s imperfections and that one survives their own scars and becomes more beautiful.
That technique is beautiful but art restoration is about restoring to the artwork to how the original artist intended it to be, not to turn it into our own piece of art or change it into something different than the original artist's intention ☺️
I’ve seen some real screwup jobs on people who supposedly restored artwork worth millions. I would be terrified to touch a single piece because I would be afraid I would do something wrong and be on the hook for all of it.
sometimes i am surprised what Americans conciser old. this is shown, as if it was some ancient statue of immeasurable value, while its only from the 18 hunderts. like, my town's church is from 1777, and its one of the 'new' churches in my country.
The title says a century old and it does have that Fin de siècle look. She probably meant that it’s valuable to the client not that it has some enormous history.
I guess once a person gets hooked on conservation videos (a la Baumgartener), we crop up everywhere with his standards and procedures firmly in mind! 😁
The phrase "permanently attach" (4:25) should never be used to describe any part of any restoration. If the bust falls and the socle base is broken beyond repair, it will be almost impossible to remove it from the bust for replacement.
In this case I think it is best to insure a secure base since the biggest risk of damage to the peice is falling. Any materials that would be able to hold well and not fall apart after a couple decades are permanent. I understand that its normally standard procedure to use reversable meterials but this one is very top heavy, where the broken part support all of the weight. I can't think of anything that would have worked better, without being even worse for the art. Anyway I'm not a professional, that's just my thoughts.
so here 2:56 you are telling me that you have to be very careful because alabaster can scratch very easily. and here 6:50 you start to work on the alabaster, which is very easy to scratch, with sandpaper. do you see why i have difficulty understanding this?
Lol it’s a rock. I’ve got leftovers in my fridge older than that pebble. BREAKING NEWS: 100 year old shaped rock gets much needed restoration. From rock to rock, tonight at 10.
She's like, "I just want to reiterate, we did not break this statue."
hahahhaahahah
She's saying that so her pay doesn't get halved. lol
FedEx did it.
@@MrWolfSnack lol😂
I'm always surprised how they use everyday, regular cleaning supplies and tools for ancient, fine art pieces, which make sense since they don't want the materials to be too harsh and damaging. It's the precision and patience in technique that is the most essential training for this job!
Because they are bad conservators. Good conservators usually use custom mixes of chemicals to clean, reversible glues and paints and dental tools...
@@mitchv.7492 It's not the fact that they are not good conservators. It's the fact this is not a professional conservatorship. It's just an art college in NYC. They are all students. A college studio is not going to have the budget or means to have $30,000 cleaning supplies like the Smithsonian or the Louvre. This is why they get to work on junk thats already ruined and has little to no value to begin with. They would never be allowed to touch the Mona Lisa for example. The staff are all under 30 years old. If you find more high class art restorers they are usually in their 60s with 40 years of experience. They can fix 1/2 million dollar art pieces and not screw up once.
@@MrWolfSnack Thanks for confirming my point.
@@mitchv.7492 Yeah they are good conservators - just not the kind that have the skills to work on national and historical one of a kind pieces. There's so much art, not all of it is super valuable - these guys just work on the lower end art. I'll bet a lot of them probably get clients from the Antiques Roadshow referrals. The "I found this old painting at a yard sale and I want to clean it" type.
Marble doesnt react like paint. A painting needs very carefully selected chemicals. Stone is a different story.
it’s so fascinating how we preserve art for hundreds and thousands of years. It’s one of our only connections the minds and ideas of the ones before us.
Exactly
very well put
When it's beautiful humans instinctively don't want to let it die
Wonderful work. I'm 68 and have repaired many pieces in my life with whatever I can think of that might work. You folks are professional. Satisfying to watch you work.
Bravo.
She’s like we use a lot of technical instruments in the restoration. We use a spotlight so that we can see. It’s a very special light. It shines a spot.
So stupid joke
The Baumgartner viewer in me heavily cringed at the juxtaposition of 'conservstor epoxy' and 'permanently attach'. It's just something that seems so wrong but clearly is what is needed sometimes
right! and drilling holes into it, too…. then again, this piece had been broken several times, and clearly needed some added stability. but still, permanently..?
I thought the same thing! Like, I'm no expert but my first thought was "huh?? Permanently?"
I can answer to this ! I'm a MA student in objects conservation. While you don't want to use epoxy as a varnish on a painting, it is sometimes the only viable adhesive for heavy sculptures. Sometimes, every other adhesive would either be too weak, or grow too weak with time. In this case, the sculpture is definietly the most important part of the piece, and you can't risk it falling to the ground because the adhesvie in the base has aged. Also, this is for a private client, the object won't have the kind of protection museum pieces get, and so the conservation treatment has to account for that too. And in this case, the retouching and the plaster fills are reversible. So any potential yellowing of the epoxy isn't problematic.
As far as drilling holes into it, it's a fairly common practice in sculpture conservation, again, it is necessary to acount for the weight of certain pieces. Stone and sculptures are not my specialism tho, so I can't say if it's necessary or not in this case, but it's definietly safer.
Their are things I would question tho, for exemple the way it is sanded (not the sanding itself of the fill, that's necessary) and the polishing.
Different areas of conservation have different ways of doing things, because in many cases some of the main principles of conservation are simply not directly applicable.
@@ashharper3090 this is so interesting and helpful tysm!!!!!!
I thought the same way! Love Julian!
This was very entertaining to watch! It's great seeing old pieces restored for future generations to enjoy. The piece is stunning!
it is surprising the thing still exists! it is disaster waiting to happen! tiny column with flimsy base that serves as a shelf for disconnected statue probably heavier than the pedestal itself... like some cruel dare challenge in balancing for whoever ends up owning it!
why are your spaces so big???
😁because when I was little and was learning typing on an old typewriter machine, I decided to press space key twice every time as I thought it looked better visually, and then I got used to do it, and to leave one space after commas and full stops, and later transferred the habit to computer keyboard, and it got so engraved in my motion and brain that although I tried to exorcise it many times in later years I have never managed to do so, it just automatically occurs when I type without my influence...
@@dejangotic Woah
@@dejangotic So, it wasn't to cheat on your homework when asked to hand in a 20 page essay then? 😏
@@lol-pj6ss hahaha no it was not! actually I can not shut up or stop writing once I start so I was usually asked to trim written works substantially, and I guess that would be the case even without using double space, but anyway, I live in Balkans, so in case I wanted to use it to cheat no one would notice, because nobody here notices things such as double spaced gaps!
Beautiful piece. I wonder what it would cost to buy today and how much the restoration cost?
I don't know, but I can buy a dozen at a swap meet... jk
It depends if it's storical or not this one cost about 12 k euros or more for the century old... But if you wanna buy a simple marble statue for your garden less than 200 euros about 150 and obviously more quality more money. The restauration this one particular about 3k
@@kl0van835 wow, great information. How did you know all of this?
@@ioncekilledamanwithmyshoe well it's just a theory based on my art career.😉
@@kl0van835 I’ve been trying to get a nice marble statue for my garden. Where shall I look for it?
"The marble is extremely susceptible to scratching" proceeds to use sand paper on it
Mostly joking, lol
No, thats mostly right. I experiment a little with kintsugi, and even a rank amateur like me has developed better tricks for getting rid of excess material than just sanding it away.
Yes. It did look a little excessive, but it seemed to be a very high grit count, maybe 1000 or 2000 grit, which also works better when wet.
@@pete3011 They know what they are doing. A sufficiently high-number grit glass paper will remove debris and leave the marble without detectable damage. Frankly, the polishing step scared me the most - the operator let the left end of the piece get really close to the other wheel!
It's called 'Wet 'n' Dry'. It's used on plastic (very scratchable), so it's not really 'sanding' so much as 'buffing'.
Exactly my thoughts actually 😕
finally, a narrator who wields the spoken word with deliberation.
I turned it off a minute in and came to the comments hoping to find someone equally annoyed by her hesitant, unrehearsed narration. Looks like a me problem from here clearly hahah
@@aelthen874 no same honestly
@@aelthen874 it was painful for me too. It’s like she was narrating it while driving, or doing something else.
Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed lol
I'm not an artist, but I am artistic.
I wish I would have known that you could make a career of doing that, 50+ years ago. The direction of my life would have been entirely different.
David Carr ...........You should watch ....... Baumgartner Restoration .......... guy restores paintings...nice to watch
Fantastic work, thank you to everyone involved for sharing the process with us. I would love to see more repairs, or discussion of past repairs in a future video.
I just love it when i get a notification … has subscribed to you or … has liked ❤️
If it got broken twice already, I'd seriously think about putting a translucent scaffolding to support it better 🤔 Without getting visually too much on the way.
Just put C-brackets around the base and make a custom platform for it. Lock the statue base into the platform, no more falling.
@@MrWolfSnack But if you look the top surface and the bust itself are just placed, not secured. So an LA morning earthquake would mean another trip to the restorators.
@@erdvilla I dunno. Unless you strap the whole thing to the wall, I don't know.
@@MrWolfSnack That's why I can't have nice (expensive & fragile) things 😂
Lots of art museums are too poor to pay for every art piece to be supported or protected. Some million dollar art pieces are just protected with a sign.
And though I don’t know if this art piece belongs in a museum, I guess things just break.
I’m just wondering if you could use marble and alabaster dust to create a glue to piece the pieces back together? I’m thinking that it would help with color matching.
I don’t know anything about art restoration, I’m just curious if my idea would work.
Thank you for a great video.
"gentle Surfactant detergent diluted with distilled water"...so there is some use for that last bit of bathroom soap with a bunch of water in it lol...😂😂
Thank you for using real Classical Music!!! Great video!
I find these so relaxing to watch. When I graduated I always wanted to go into conservation but never did 😅
I probably dont know what I'm talking about but... Why can't you use ground marble and resin to mend the marble? I would think that would make a stronger more natural bond.
Resin yellows over time, so it would not be a good idea to use resin in a spot where it can be seen. That’s why the plaster is used.
I am surprised they went with plaster to fill those cracks. Why not just use the clear epoxy.. wouldn't that have provided them with a more translucent effect?
I have a large antique marble 'winged victory or Nike' with a broken wing. I couldn't afford to have it profressionally repaired so I just place the broken wing beside it. Maybe one day.
May I suggest wrapping paper or plastic tape round the ferules of your cleaning brushes? I've done some delicate cleaning and it's too easy to scratch the sides of a deep recess while pushing the bristles into it.
Thank you for the update, Insider..!! The end result looks awesome..!!
*Wishing everyone the best sleep of their life after having seen this relaxing video!*
🥰🥰🥰
Excellent work. The painting part surely must be a pain in the arse. But great results overall.
Just wondering if using resin to fix that marble sculpture is good or not
How much did that cost?
"and we are using our ancient drill press" 🤣😂🤣
So much attention to detail! Love it!
Seeing it all set up at the end just gives me anxiety 😥 it looks like it could be easily knocked over, the bust is so top heavy, on a very narrow base, I’d have it backed into a right angled corner 😰😰😰
Шикарно! Тоже мечтаю реставрировать!
How much does a work like this cost?
Circa 2222. "The previous restorer had permanently drilled holes in the precious marble. Today all we're going to do is to heal it with our minds."
What did you seal the paint touch up with?
Doesn't the sandpaper scratch the alabaster?
I thought they said alabaster is Prone to scratching? But when they were filling the crack on the base, they were sanding with different grits of sandpaper to get the excess plaster.
That is gorgeous. Great work
Beautiful restoration 👍⚜️
Beautiful work!!! Well done👏
What a marvelous job!
Yes! Yes TH-cam! All my life I wanted to see a video about the restoration of a marble bust! Thanks TH-cam! Now i can die without regrets!
As much as I love the paint used to hide the cracks, I’m almost tempted to wish they had done this one Japanese technique where they put goldleaf in between cracks. I feel like cracks in marble or statues is just a great motif it reminds us of the ancient statues of Rome and grease, the gold with contrast the white of the marble very well. I also love the message behind not trying to hide one’s imperfections and that one survives their own scars and becomes more beautiful.
That technique is beautiful but art restoration is about restoring to the artwork to how the original artist intended it to be, not to turn it into our own piece of art or change it into something different than the original artist's intention ☺️
Wow. Impressive. Thanks
Wow amazing art😲😎✌️
Seeing this makes me so proud to be Italian.
I'm just hear to listen to this wondeful calming voice haha
I can't imagine having such a meaningful and passion utilizing job. This makes me wanna rope on a Monday morning
I found this quite fascinating. Thank you so much for posting
Gorgeous. Great job.
Now that's what I call remastering the statue!
Such a fascinating video. Thank you.
Fascinating and meticulous, your work is also a work of art.
The past is so much better than whatever they are designing today.
Absolutely fabulous
I’ve seen some real screwup jobs on people who supposedly restored artwork worth millions. I would be terrified to touch a single piece because I would be afraid I would do something wrong and be on the hook for all of it.
1:20
She’ll be like:
“Ah yes right there it feels goOood~”
MAGNIFICIENT RESTORATION!
sometimes i am surprised what Americans conciser old. this is shown, as if it was some ancient statue of immeasurable value, while its only from the 18 hunderts.
like, my town's church is from 1777, and its one of the 'new' churches in my country.
The title says a century old and it does have that Fin de siècle look. She probably meant that it’s valuable to the client not that it has some enormous history.
Very good 👍👍👍
I guess once a person gets hooked on conservation videos (a la Baumgartener), we crop up everywhere with his standards and procedures firmly in mind! 😁
Beautiful work
tbh if it was me i woulda used gold fill or something eccentric to show the cracks
How can it look "incorrect and inappropriate" ? It didnt have patina when it was first presented and neither for a little while after it was carved
Good
The phrase "permanently attach" (4:25) should never be used to describe any part of any restoration. If the bust falls and the socle base is broken beyond repair, it will be almost impossible to remove it from the bust for replacement.
In this case I think it is best to insure a secure base since the biggest risk of damage to the peice is falling. Any materials that would be able to hold well and not fall apart after a couple decades are permanent.
I understand that its normally standard procedure to use reversable meterials but this one is very top heavy, where the broken part support all of the weight. I can't think of anything that would have worked better, without being even worse for the art. Anyway I'm not a professional, that's just my thoughts.
so here 2:56 you are telling me that you have to be very careful because alabaster can scratch very easily.
and here 6:50 you start to work on the alabaster, which is very easy to scratch, with sandpaper. do you see why i have difficulty understanding this?
6:42 the lady trying to blow air thru her mask. Hahahaha.
I also do my restoration to the sound of the one and the only one my love Mozart
Use a hand buffer.
The metal of the brush can easily scratch the marble.
When you’re a medical student and all your life you always thought that surfactant is only used to treat RDS
They did great restoration, but the original structure looks will be break again soon.
She's the Gabriel Allon of sculpture restoration.
Throughout the video, all I think is "what happen if I drop the sculpture"
Geez how much did it cost to repair this?
At home I would have used dish detergent, a scrub brush and hose. Lol
Great video, but they keep using the word "ancient" incorrectly.
A c.100 year old statue is not ancient, neither is that "ancient" drill press.
I don't understand being scared of scratching it but then sanding it.
Simply Marble-ous
I wanna know how rich the people are who own this statue.
Definitely gated community rich.
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW Definitely break a century old sculpture twice rich.
Probably not very rich considering that the statue is only a century old.
Bgm name?
A client? Damn. I was certain it was for a museum.
This is very satisfyingly ASMR'ish
Wash it with soapy water and glue it back together.
I can’t tell if ancient drill press is an actual restoration machine or a call for more funding?
Nice good work
How can removing all dirt and patina look incorrect and inappropriate? It's not like it was designed to look dirty. Wasn't it originally clean? 🤔
Yes, it was clean a century ago.
Satisfying
A special conservation epoxy known as “EpoTek?” She sounds like a social media manager.
Some Elmer’s glue should do the trick
Cool😃
This was so cool!
I LOOOOOAAAAAAATHHHH WHEN WOMEN DRAG THEIR S's.....
SSSSSSSSSSSSSTOP IT...
What a cool job
I'll be the person to drop the century old bust into the ground while polishing it.
was drilling holes a good idea?
The client needs to put it in a glass cage, no more repairs!
Probably cost around $10,000
Lol it’s a rock. I’ve got leftovers in my fridge older than that pebble.
BREAKING NEWS: 100 year old shaped rock gets much needed restoration. From rock to rock, tonight at 10.