MXR Carbon Copy Original & Bright Comparison
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When Dunlop and PGS set out to collaborate on the Carbon Copy Bright, the idea was to take the core that's found on thousands of pedalboards worldwide, and adapt it to players in search of a little more clarity. Because several players now chain multiple delays together, the MXR Carbon Copy Bright was designed as the yang to the original's yin. These two analog delays were designed to work with one another in addition to being killer units on their own. Each pedal shines in their own way, the original M169 with its darker analog wash and the new Bright with its vocal-like repeats that demand to cut through the mix. Utilizing a bright and dark delay in tandem boosts the stylistic possibilities of any pedalboard, especially when used together at different delay settings. Of course, the Carbon Copy Bright continues to be a true bucket brigade delay with the same extended range of 600ms, lush on board modulation and true bypass switching all in a compact enclosure made in the USA.
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the carbon copy bright sounds brighter
ReaLManMan2 Well played, Well played! :)
+ReaLManMan2 I think it's the type of metal they used that helped that
it also looks brighter
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No shit, Sherlock!
Why not just make a Carbon Copy II with a bright switch?
$$$$$ 4 them
Charles Burks Pretty soon they will just change the color, and people will swear they sound different...
+Charles Burks exactly my thoughts
+Charles Burks It is harder than you Think to change from dark to Bright like this. It is 2 different ground-settings in the Electronics.
And a tap tempo foot switch input
MXR carbon copy with tone knob will be much better
The orginal CC sounds better to me at pretty much every setting. The bright's repeats seem a bit too high pitched and chirpy for my tastes.
this.
I've had the original cc for years now and use it it as an always on reverb/depth/ tone fattener. It's become a huge part of my sound and love it for Floyd stuff with the delay adjusted. Great pedal!!
I can imagine the bright being a better option for bass players who use delay and lose clarity with the muddy trails of other standard analog delays, but don't want to resort to digital delays :D definitely gonna save up for the bright version x)
Julio A. Robles exactly! I have a CC on my bassboard, and while it sounds glorious during rehearsal (we have a killer sounding PA), it gets mushy on stage, definitely looking on the CCB !
I just picked one of these up after using the original for 4 years. I run both now, the bright for my cleans, and the original for overdrive. The bright really brings out and preserves my cleans, which is awesome. It's subtle, but enough that it makes a difference. I would try it out before dogging it.
I own the original one of these things. One thing I really like about it is that the delayed signal sonically "gets out of the way" of the original signal because it loses top end with each repeat and sinks behind the original signal. This bright version looks cool and may sound cool in some situations I just think sonically, live, it could clutter up your signal unless you had the mix of the delay set pretty low. It's too close to the original signal in my opinion. I agree on the thought of one carbon copy but with a switch or dial to select the "color" of the repeats.
RandyJohnsonRikthove I think it depends on what you are playing. Like if you listen to the other demos of it, in a song where you really want the delay in the foreground for dotted eighths (eg do you play in a worship band? Are you U2?') then the new bright model is going to sound great. At the same time, the darkness is part of the reason why the CC has stayed on my board for years, often not as the ONLY delay. I just like the darkness and the reverby-ness of it.
Except y'know, no tap tempo so it's useless for rhythmic stuff live.
+Oscar Richardson I used mine for all sorts of rhythmic stuff. Just have to get used to turning the knob.
The original sounds better for just adding to your tone, the delay isn't as apparent and it mixes really well for that wide sound and for leads, whereas the bright does sound much better if you want distinct delay.
Youngsters reading - keep in mind that something that sounds good on a recording might not sound like anything in a live situation. I love Andy's demos -but they can't predict what this gear will sound like with 500 people in a noisy club. I got rid of my original MXR CC way back in the day, because it sounded perfect in the store - but live the repeats totally disappeared into a sea of mush. The 'bright' version might be just what the Dr. ordered in that setting.
Tioga Fretworks I solved the problem using a 12v charger. A problem needs a solution, not a trashcan.
Tioga Fretworks It appears most amateurs never play live anymore... Gary Rossington of Lynyrd Skynyrd doesn't use any effects at all, because most people are so drunk at a show, they wouldn't notice anyway...
+hillysats So true. As a guitarist, when I see live bands, my primary focus is seeing what gear the guitarist(s) are using, how they sound, and their ability to play.
Tramp That's probably true.. at a Lynyrd Skynyrd show. (is gary the only original member now?)
Agree 100%, also Andy plays without picks so everything sounds way fatter when he plays, then when a "normal" person with a pick plays.
Original = win.
Original. Bright would be good for worship boards but I love the dark, descending repeats in the original carbon copy.
I like the bright, It makes for a more interesting tone
I like the original carbon copy. The darker repeats sound much nicer.
The stock carbon copy might be my favorite pedal
The CC Bright ALMOST does a tape-echo kind of thing. It's got much more of a "knock" to the repeats and a pretty serious cut in the lows. I think both definitely sound great.
Is it me, or does it sounds like the Bright version is distorting? Or is that the point. I've owned an original for five years and it's my favorite pedal on my board.
Yes Dist ,then is better ts9 and carbon dark i guess and on - off your better dist ,ts9 or others.
@@DiosJaguar15 what in the world are you saying?
Why to go PGS! You guys are some of the best!!
If they made a deluxe version with both circuits an tap tempo I'd be all over it
First time I've seen Andy play with a pick.
Stan Lindert he's not. He is just pinching his thumb and forefinger together.
I feel like the regular would be better for distorted sounds and the bright would be better for clean sounds
+Mickey Rosario why not both?
not true. the bright is perfect for evh
What song is on 2:31 ??
Ive already looked for "The Writing South" by Say Anything.
The Carbon Copy Analog Delay sounds much analog...
xDDD
I preffer the old version that the new.
I really dig the Bright version. Great job, gents!
Was is better and more versátil pedal? carbon copy or carbon copy bright?
hey andy, when setting up the signal path did you have the bright before the CC??
Orig sounds more tapey to me, one reason I love it.
Another guy on here said the bright one sounds more like tape... which is it 😂
I don’t get this, why don’t just add a 4th knob with tone control?
Very slight difference. It is like comparing an echoplex and a space echo.
I think I prefer the original version, they're both cool though, different strokes.
Andy looks baked, but his "guitarmanship" always reigns. :D
We have no idea if the stacks are in series or parallel. I would like to hear both ways at the same settings.
You say "A true bucket brigade like the Carbon Copy will have a dirtier repeat and an analog wash...so does the bright one have a bucket brigade too or is it something different?
I could not get them to work in parallel, after soldering some custom jumpers and going into my stereo BlueSky. I would get a loud piercing tone.
I like the in-your-face Bright version, but my signature sound still requires digital delay.
Just sounds like the repeats are brighter on the new model, where as the old one the repeats are slightly darker, just a slight eq difference. I prefer the sound of the original although I haven't used one in 3 years since mine broke and I sent it to MXR repair and they messed up and essentially swapped the functionality of the Delay and Regen knobs lol!
No shit sherlock
I can't wait until they create the Carbon Copy BrightER !!! ;-)
Or a Carbon Copy Dark...you hit a chord and you get hit by a wet blanket.:)
Haha ! If they create one of those two pedals ...they will have to pay us !
Is Andy using a pick? Still tasteful as always!
why couldn't there just be one, and with a tone knob?
just put a "brigthness" knob to the original Carbon and that's it, why have two pedals? :s
I think the original sounds better and doesn't get in the way of your playing. Of course thats the purpose of the bright - having it be so present. At any rate I think Dunlop should make one CC pedal with a bright switch and add the mod controls to the top plate instead of burying them inside. That would be an awesome CC pedal.
Scott Card Totally agree. I could do without a bright switch - but modulation controls on the outside would make perfect sense.
hmm...so, so, so, slight difference
They a very cool delays grt strength, honest return
without stacking, on the same board.
Great video, I’m just disappointed I didn’t hear Andy’s clean tone first.
The riff at 2:31 sounds like a shoegaze version of "The Writing South" by Say Anything.
The carbon copy not bright sounds dark
OR
Once you go bright you never go dark
I want one of each, but I like the bright more.
Bright for me hands down! Lush and chimey.
the original sounds much better, much more analog, to my ears.
slimturnpike The original memory man was pretty bright too, does that not sound analog?
“More analog” wth does that even mean?
Not dark enough...
Why a Carpon Copy Brighter ? The dfference with the Original is so subtle (too much). But a Cabon Copy with Tap Tempo could be a really good thing. But It sounds good anyway.
Check out Delaytion for the carbon copy by Molten Voltage. You can thank me later
2:16 ; 2:23
speaking of bright my only complaint is how BLINDING the LED is on my pedal board
...no bass guitar demo...
Since I'm playing a strat into Fender amp. I rather have the carbon copy.
Not that this is a bad delay but is full of other similar pedals on the market, I do not find that this has a sound so original... I would have preferred a deluxe edition of the traditional Carbon Copy, perhaps with Tap Tempo, Expression pedal and Rate and Depth controls external.
thats an idea! expression pedal to morph between the dark and brighter tonal flavors these twp offer... assuming it's just a tone circuit adjustment
I dunno... the trails on the bright seem very digital.. too much of a good thing?
Rob D Agree. Prefer the Original. Why mess with a Classic? Just Create an Entirely New Pedal. - Michael - NYC -
+Michael Caz If MXR thought it was a bad idea they would have said no to it.
No they don't.
dude that self oscillation was way too much
I like the original better. Sounds more lush and ethereal.
Hey, it's Andy and today Im going to show you how to make your wallet lighter!
It's not very helpful keeping the mix knob all the way up. In reality a delay pedal is mostly used to create ambience and cushion to notes, not turned up to Edge level.
On this pedal, the Mix is only about 50/50 at 75%, so don't go by looks alone.
I think I like the original better
A carbon copy with modulation control on top ....i hate have to open the pedal to modify the modulation ..
well i'm glad i never had to review this pedal!
personally i think the original carbon copy was WAYY better then the bright because if i wanted a bright sounding delay then i'd go and get any digital delay that sucks just as much as the carbon copy bright!
it doesn't even deserve the word CARBON COPY on it because it is absolute shit compared to the real carbon copy
+demon malice studios Really? I haven't tried it but judging from the video it sounds the sam albeit brighter.
yeah they do in this video and they probably will in most videos XD but for gear the real way to find out is to check it out yourself
because when you ask "is this any good"
you'll be lucky if one gear related video or magazine gives you a honest answer to it
It's just slightly brighter in its repeats. Not so fundamentally different that it becomes "absolute shit". The added presence is great imo. There are many analog delay pedals that are naturally brighter than the CC. That doesn't make them sound digital, since it's not brightness alone that makes digital delays sound the way they do.
Great .
cc dark with others effects
Prefiero el original, le da mas profundidad, ademas el brighter tiene unos medios a mi gusto exagerados
Sounds a lot like a Electro-Harmonix Memory Man at half the price and takes up MUCH less space on my pedalboard!
why not make a rev2 and add a tone knob or bright toggle probably made in China and cost more than the original. mxr has gone in the shitter lately.
still muddy
That's analog delay my friend!
this is nothing but splitting hairs , there is no difference worth noticing , a waste of money.
Put on some headphones and increase the quality of the video.
+snow dog Perhaps it's a marketing ploy, or have you been playing to close to the drummer?
It's meant to turn people that would otherwise buy a carbon copy on to buying a carbon copy that meets their concerns. It is not meant to replace the current carbon copy or get people that already own a carbon copy tp buy this one. It is an alternative. Do you complain about a restaurant offering curly fries being a waste of money?
I now have both, and playing live, you can hear the difference. Together you can get a lot of nice combinations. I almost bought a Strymond delay but really like the warmth of analog along with a tube amp. These digital TH-cam samples loose some warmth and clarity to begin with, so you need to hear things live for a real evaluation.