Motool Slacker Digital Sag Scale V2 - Episode 249
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Today I’m showing you one of my new favorite tools for working on dirt bikes. It’s the Motool Slacker Digital Sag scale. With this tool, I can set the static sag and the race sag on my dirt bike without having to drag my wife (and or) kids out to the shop to help me. It may sound like a small thing, but it’s huge to me. I love having the digital readout so that I have no doubt of where my sag is.
The tool comes in at $150 USD and while that is certainly expensive, for me, this tool is worth the money. As long as I take care of it, I’m sure it will last me for at least a decade of setting up dirt bikes. With as many bikes as I’m testing and riding each year, this thing is a fantastic tool to have in my shop.
From the website:
Fast, Simple, Precise
The new and improved Slacker is even easier to use than the original! This patented system allows anyone to quickly and easily setup their bike’s suspension. Slacker takes less than 30 seconds to place on the bike and take a precise measurement. The tool was developed over the course of two years with input from industry leading suspension companies like Factory Connection, Pro Circuit and MB1 Suspension to assure the accuracy, consistency and reliability of the tool. This newest release features new hardware, new software and a fresh new look produced at a new state of the art production facility!
It’s Not Rocket Science
Adjusting suspension sag is the simplest, most overlooked change that you can make to dramatically improve the handling and safety of your bike. You will be amazed at how easy it is to dial in your bike yourself! Checking your sag regularly and adjusting it for different riding conditions is key to getting the most out of your bikes suspension. For faster conditions you can run more sag to make the bike more stable at speed and for tighter conditions you can run less sag so the bike steers better. It is super easy to adjust and you will kick yourself for not doing it as a regular part of your bike maintenance sooner.
A Smarter Slacker
The new Slacker with Auto Zero allows you to place the tool in a learning mode so it can actually learn where the zero point is when a bike is lifted. This is ideal for street bikes as well as dirt bikes when you don't have a stand or are doing multiple bike setups. All you do is hold the backlight button for 3 seconds to place it in Auto Zero mode, then lift the bike to unload the suspension and it automatically marks the zero point so you are ready to take measurements.
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@dirtbikechannel actually if you talk to the guys at Motool they suggest on the 17 and 16 KTMs you use the SAG marker on the rear fender instead of the arc method. this is referenced on their blog on their webpage and Via a phone conversation with myself.
blog.motool.co/search?updated-max=2016-09-25T09:35:00-07:00&max-results=7 check post from 18 September 2016
Good catch;-)
FINALLY, this is the first video I could find that shows the full demonstration on how to use it. Well done. Looks like a great tool.
have one of these myself with x-trig adjusters on my shocks, Motool product is great, I'm done and fully adjusted in less than 3min with an impact driver or ratchet/socket.....poke a hole in the plastic at the mark point and put the hook in it, and like others said, use the KTM sag mark. should be setting Race/Rider sag first, then check static...if your static is off more than "spec" either direction after setting Race/Ride, you'll need to change the spring to accommodate your weight.
I have this tool and completely agree with everything said in the video.setting sag is vital for how the bike handles and overall geometry/balance.it can also be used on the forks.since I can do it myself I'm always playing with settings wich allows me to really know my bike(s).great video!
I just got this tool and love being able to set the sag by myself. But you should add one last step. Be very gentle taking your bike off the stand and putting it back on, because the tool can move on the axle, (I will make a pin for mine on my lathe). After you check/set the sag, gently put the bike on the stand to see if it is still reading zero. The first time I used it, it moved 2mm. But if your real careful, it won't move. The unit is also wireless now for the remote, or you can use your cell phone and not have to get the remote.
nice review had mine little over a year and love it makes life so much easier especially with 3 bikes and i constantly change for different gear setups and camping stuff
I think it a great idea for the same reason you stated Kyle. Plus the frustration of having someone else reading the measuring tape :( I just bought one because I know how important proper sag is. But at the $150 mark it's not for everyone.
bike against the wall is a great idea...interesting too see the difference in measurement when your weight is moved around....love the gadget...correct sag is vital...ill have one i reckon!
Looks like a great add to the tool box.
Thanks just bought one through your link!
Can't beat a $3 measuring tape. But love the idea someone's digging for better stuff.
Great informative video. Thanks for making it. I know how much work self shot videos are.
Piece of blue painter tape , tape measure, and piece of string. No biggie most people don't know what sag is anyway.
If they are giving them away fantastic. I'll take one LOL
I can seen that tool it looks very good
Hey Kyle love the work with the channel can you please do a video of the different between linkage and psd suspension advantage and disadvantages
Expensive but we got top stuff here.
Cheers K.B.
I didn't know the sag was that important? It would be kinda nice to see a video about say and why it's so important 👍
Adam Dilley search sag by stillwell performance, search SAG by Rocky Mountain ATV/MC and you will find some good information. There are a few more. Would send links but hard on phone. Once you find those videos on TH-cam you will see over to the right other similar videos that you can learn more. Pretty interesting.
ive always used a ratchet strap and tape measure....if you dont own either....$10 at harbour freight or princess auto. no disinterested family needed...or 150$ box.
Can you explain how that works with no helper? I own both, not sure how it would work though. Thanks!
so is it the rider sag - the static sag to get the actual sag of the bike to 30mm? Having a hard time understanding the whole "sag" thing.
Tape measure works good for me, $150 is a little overpriced
BSmoto Yesh I'd say
for 20 bucks or so you can get a laser distance meter. Isn't quite the same but at the price makes it an interesting option. hehe
Thank you for the video !! Why do you need the static sag for ?? Just to know the difference between static and the sag with the pilot ?? Or why is it useful for ??
I ride both mx and off-road and can say with confidence that sag doesn't make 1/10 of the difference off-road as it does for mx riding. It's not worth the money even if it is for an mx bike.
Bike was so clean and fresh...until...the rear rim. Lol
But, good videos and very helpful.
I just ordered one. Thanks for the great review!
One question; do you recommend the "arc method" or to measure from the rear axle to a vertical point like my KTM manual states?
Why do I have to remove the rear brake spring to check oil level on a new ktm? I want to return it
So why do Ktm put a sag line on the back fender it you are not supposed to use it ?
the ktm 150 xcw is a enduro meaning you can ride it on the road to correct?
Could you check your front suspension too with sag scale?
Noticed your BCM shirt. Are you gonna make a vid of you packing a rifle on your dirtbike?
I bought it, nice product. Question is I have a 08 KTM 690e and have lowered the bike approx 1 5/8" and 3/4 down on the fork tubes. Would I subtract the 1 5/8ths to figure what it should be. I way 230 in gear and us it foe dual sport and have a fair amount of stuff. Bought it used in stock set up, I think, so some variables. Any advice, like the channel.
I got a 82 mm static and 66 loaded seated? 1 5/8 = 41.2 mm and bike stock had 11.2" travel. My problem is 28" inseam at 5'9". Standing I raised my rentals an 1.5"! I know strange lol. I am sure I might need a spring but not sure what it should be.
Can you use this on sport bikes and sport quads?
I was adjusting my sag just yesterday and I got a little confused... My static sag was at 50mm and rider sag at 100mm, static to soft, rider a bit to hard. if I try change one of them it makes the other on really off! How do I get it right?
Hey Julien,
You need s softer spring. The big static number means there is not much preload on the spring so it is not holding the bike up after you set the race sag. I like it between 35-40mm static and around 105-110 for moto and off-road. Be sure to compensate on the fork with a lighter spring as well. Always set your race sag before you look at the static;-)
Oh ok thanks, ill look into it!
Hey man :) I have a question. I'm 14 years old and not realy that big (5'2) do you know what bike would be perfect for me (KTM) ?
Luzerino Ktm Sx 85 or if your more experienced a Sx 125 with a low seat
You should actually start out on a 450 with a side of life insurance
What about the fork sag?
Yeah it's weird that nobody talks about fork sag on Moto bikes.
cool tool but I'm with the majority of I'm going to spend $150 it would be on tires. Being a solid novice, new tires will make a bigger difference in my ride over adjusting 10mm of sag up or down. As long as we all ride were doing good.
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Why is race sag important?
To get the bike frame angle where it should be for the best handling. Not enough race sag, and the head angle is steeper, and the front end could start shaking badly when braking for corners, (for example). To much race sag, and the head angle is more slack, and the front end may want to push instead of turn.
do you change the sag on the front forks?
Good idea but I think the price is way too high.
just stand behind an hold the bike with your knees,been dion it this way for decades !!!!
The first one is not accurate compare
I'm two cheap an the tape measure never lyes.
wash your bike grub
150 bucks for bling? i've set my sag only once when i've bought the bike. never heard somebody saying...damn my riding improved so much after resetting my sag... i better invest in tires and gasoline for much more riding time to improve my riding skills. to say it in your words. its not that much bang for the buck.
set sag once, if your weight hasn't changed + or - 8 pounds and you never had the shock serviced, you're likely still good. Sag does make a HUGE difference, especially if you race and throw the bike into corners or ruts. Going from 108mm down to 102mm made a huge difference on my race bike.
Waste of time and money
Then I would not want to ride your bike.