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Comparison Test: 3-Row SUV Challenge with Cars.com
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ธ.ค. 2016
- "It’s that time once again. Time to gather a group of the newest of the new together, meet up with our friends at Cars.com, and find out which vehicle rises to the top. This time we’re tackling that ever so popular and fast becoming necessity of American Motordom, the 3-row family utility..."
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Remember when SUVs were just-business decent off-roaders and not glorified Mini-Vans?
TheZProtocol the glory days
TheZProtocol well that's the thing, these hot SUVs. They are all crossovers, based on sedan platforms beefed-up for SUV stances. in short, they are crossdressers LOL.
But, SUV's are sooooo cool....I wouldn't be caught dead driving a van 😆
Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ was last good one, new ones are hopeless.
Hey guys, we still have the Jeep Wrangler, and Ford is bringing back the Bronco! So, those old school SUVs are coming back!
Thank you Motorweek. Great show.
so, the winners are based on the amount of USB ports? Excellent testing criteria.
Apparently resale and interior quality aren't, because there is nothing at GMC or Chevy that has a high quality interior. Especially compared to that CX-9.
I love the Nissan Pathfinder but the Dodge Durango is my favorite suv of all
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They're both outdated
Does the Mazda have cup holders on the engine cover?!?
Doesn't the Ford Explorer outsell all these by a huge margin?
DevPack Certainly doesn't mean it's the best.
Probably because they chop off 5-10 grand off MSRP to move a unit. Honda, Mazda or Toyota don't because their quality and resale validate.
The Ford Explorer just has a redesign for the 2016 model year.
DevPack and don't forget.. They do a shit load fleet of sales.
jeepthing98 actually they do... in my area (Tennessee) Ford never does sales on the Explorer Highlanders and Pilots are CONSTANTLY running sales
It would of been a v8 hemi Durango or the twin turbo v6 explorer for me. I went Japanese once and never again. I'll stick to my tried and true 2006 ford explorer limited with the 4.6 v8.
How do they make this videos to look and sound like a car show from 90s?
I’ve always been happy with Ford but it’s amazing how great the Durango still looks after being on the market this long! All the others are hideous IMO 🤷
fuck this - kids can sit sideways in the trunk like we did when we were kids. No seatbelts, no entertainment! Kids these days - "Dad, i don't like this car, it hasn't got enough fucking USB ports in the 3rd-row" "Ok son, let me remortgage the house, so you can be transported around like a little fucking prince"...
The CX-9 is gorgeous & the only one here that's willing to add some actual style inside and out to your drive. Mazda really gets bypassed too often by consumers who don't even cross shop the brand. If i was looking for a vehicle in this segment, it's probably the only one of the top 4 I'd consider.
jeepthing98 except the CX-9 isn't family friendly with that tiny third seat and non existent cargo space. it is more at home with empty nesters looking for a personal vehicle. though I am sorry, that four-cylinder has to go. I don't trust its reliability.
Jo Co 3rd row yes is a bit tight but so as the other models here even the famous highlander...if that is really a must then minivan is way to go. Also, have you test driven the CX9? Coz if you had you wouldn't really notice the huge diff bet a V6 other than the sound...not ideal for towing but has better fuel economy and 310 lbs ft of torque so diesel like power...reliability may not be as high as toyota but I would say close. In fact it is still made in Japan not like Toyota that's a japanese brand but actually made in the US. I just don't get a lot of people complaining that a large SUV has to have a V6...Volvo XC90 took same route (4cyl turbo) and won car/suv of the year when it was launched. This CX9 won car of the year in Australia back to back ('16 and '17) and finished 2nd by a mere point diff vs the pacifica that won Motortrend's SUV of the year. This is obviously not for everyone so likely not for you but no need to complain about their direction...just look elsewhere!
club penguin and animal jam okay, nobody is complaining about anything, this is my opinion, which I am entitled to. If you don't like it or disagree with it, that is your choice, but that's all you can do. Secondly, it may have good performance, but my main concern is how it will do after 2 to 5 years of ownership in reliability. Since a lot of these turbo engines have had a tendency of being way more expensive to maintain, and just downright astronomical to repair if something doesn't hold up. Not to mention, do you know a whole lot about turbocharger maintenance? Because most people out there don't. And in regards to getting a minivan because of a tight third row, I'd much rather just get a body-on-frame full-size SUV which usually has more room, and more capabilities than either a crossover or a minivan. and I'm not the only one that thinks this way, it's actually quite common. So to each their own, and happy driving with whatever you choose. What I choose is my choice 💯.
Jo Co you're absolutely right your opinion so you are entitled to it and no one is taking that away from you...just questioning some of the points you made as some people make biased statements without substantiating or backing it up just merely making generalized claims without actually even owning one or at least experiencing driving the vehicle (which I hope you did). With regard to reliability, well no one can actually prove that as it's a brand new model so only actual owners after you said 2-5yrs down the road and sure it is a valid concern but if everyone shares the same concern as you then no one would really be buying the vehicle right? Buyers usually decide based on their needs and most rely on the brands' reliability and reputation. Regarding turbo engine maintenance, I do have experience with it as I drove a turbo charged engine for 7yrs and from actual experience it wasn't costly in fact turbo charged engines these days meaning newer ones and not those manufactured in the 70s-80s, are much more reliable and that's a fact based on reliability records from sites like true delta, jd power, etc. Part of it also depends on the owners' use and maintenance of turbo engines...you may have the engine with latest technology but don't follow manufacturer's proper maintenance thus can damage engine. Enjoy whatever it is you're driving!
Jo Co, the CX-9's cargo space is often understated. Take the Sorento which Motorweek put ahead of it after complaining about the CX-9's lack of space and commented on the Sorento's spaciousness. Proble for Motorweek is that the CX-9 has a roomier 2nd and 3rd row and more room behind the 3rd row. The CX-9 has more room in the 3rd row than the Highlander and more space behind it's 3rd row too. Also, in the common situation of cargo space with 3rd row folded, the Mazda's 38 cu ft is comparable to several and falls short of only the big box CUV's.
Perfectly suitable for a typical family of 4.
Love my 2018 Durango! I literally drove Pathfinders, Explorers, Acadias, CX-9s and a Santa fe! Driving dynamics only the CX-9 was better than the Durango! I wasnt impressed at all with the Pathfinder. The explorer did everything well to me but didnt stand out in any way. The Acadia was probably my least favorite. Santa Fe still felt to me it was trying to hard to be something it's not. Everybody has different opinions though I just liked the Durango best for me!
Tyler Harvey tell me that in 5 years when you have issues or that your car depreciated in value big time.
@@andrewdishman335 Or when Your POS is falling apart and engine blows up.
Did this Honda Pilot have the clunky 9spd or 6spd transmission?
Depends on trim level
Can you all put the year in the description. Thx.
Love the pilot and agree with the ratings. It needs to be mentioned that the 9-speed auto has issues and I'd recommend to skip it and go for the 6- speed transmission instead. This means you can only get up to the EX-L trim but the peace of mind is well worth it. Plus you save more money! :)
Is it bad that I didn't know that Dodge still made the Durrango?
They were supposed to have done away with it a few years ago.It will be gone when gas gets back to $4
@@emeyer6963 reading this in 2021…..
The Mazda looks the best in my opinion
Do you want a 40k car that only looks good or do you want it to last awhile?
Shawn Warnick it’s one of the most reliable cars in this group. What’s your point.
Incomplete without the fast-selling, revised for 2017 Toyota Highlander
Well they decided not to bother since the only reason the thing sells is cause Toyota are selling them for half the MSRP!
Hey, thanks for the ignorance, but if that was the case the Explorer or the GMC wouldn't be here, since they use twice the incentives of any Toyota
Evidence? I didnt think so
Toyota can blow a Corolla or Camry out the showroom because they are their high volume disposable cars. Try getting "half off" a 4Runner, Tacoma, or Tundra.
Yep. The 2017 Toyota Highlander also has reliability, standard safety features (in all models) seen in luxury 3-row models, and very good in IIHS crash results. Great SUV!
Dodge Durango has more space in the 3rd row then any and also it has a more aggressive look.
Luis Zian Yeah, but it's a Dodge. It fails immediately.
You need to add 2017 Tahoe +MotorWeek
The GMC certainly is on par with the Mazda's styling. I love the coke bottle bulge on the fenders that makes it look strong and commanding.
I can't believe the high sticker prices on these regular ass suvs.
YOU FORGOT THE SUBURBAN witch also has a 3rd row seat
That's a full size (they have a separate comparison video for that); these are all mid-sized.
It would have been nice to know where the 2017 Toyota Highlander would rate.
mipalo The Toyota Highlander probably wasn't available at the time at the test.
Its too far down the charts...
Top 1
nothing compares to the Durango there because it's the only RWD based cross over.....
Manpreet Singh durango is a piece of shit, last in reliability
@@esteemedenergy I agree, and people will say cause 'merica' well buy a subaru or toyota if you want 'merica' cause they are made in the us nowadays. What is the point of a large suv in RWD? It's not efficient, not a sports car and terrible for snow or rain. If anything you want a 4wd or awd suv. Plus the Chrysler automotive group is the scum of the 3 major us automakers. They cant make a reliable car to save their life. All they want is demon hp at the sacrifice of reliability. Dont get me wrong, Ford and GM both have some growing up to do as well. Ford has to completely redo its lineup cause it is doing so bad and GM still has an interior from the 2000's. If you argue they have a good interior that's not true for the high volume movers. Most of them are antiquated and you have to pay a high premium to get any kind of upscale. Did I mention all of them have terrible resale value...
7" smaller. Yeah, she would notice the difference lol
So, expect to see a lot of Acadias once they have the usual GM cash on the hood but not before.
What bout the highlander?
Beating Mazda CX-9, pilot, and Jeep is a big storm in for the murano
The Kia Sorento has been the panoramic view sunroof.
So the number one car, do they get the pilot?
Why is the highlander never here???
Mr. Ash because Toyota makes garbage on wheels
William D hmmm that's strange JD Powers just rate them as one of the most dependable vehicles out there.The individuals who have them ain't complaining,so who are you to talk? What do you drive btw?
That’s why Toyota is topping the charts in reliability........
William D then explain why are there many old/new Corollas, Camrys, and RAV4s all over the road?
If these are suvs what the hell are the Ford Expedition, Cadillac Escalade, Chevy Suburban, and Range Rover ??? MegaSUV's !?
271 Represent these are mid size not full size 😂😂😂
toyota highlander?
I'd get the CX9. claustrophobia for kids i'd tell them just to deal with it you ain't buying it
CX9 or Durango is my pick
Especially if you're buying a three-row for other people's kids (like this family, they only have two). Because if you can fill one entirely with your own progeny it's minivan time.
You shouldn't have kids if you're going to treat them like that. Just get an ugly minivan.
😂😂😂
Highlander??
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This is for old people and small families if you wanted a family car to hold you 3/4 kids get the explorer or Durango but if it was me I would choose the 2017 sport explorer
I'll take the durango. wait I did
Ditto! V8 power wins every time for me!
illumination357 Why? Dodge/Chrysler/Fiat are dead last in reliability ratings. No one wants a Dodge. Maybe you, but the rest of us don't want to replace transmissions every few years.
I'm on my 2nd Durango and have never had a problem. Well built vehicle.
Lease is up this year and I see no reason to waiver. 2 years ago took it from New York to Sandusky Ohio and it was a great long distance cruiser. Pentastar V-6 works well. Not a Hemi, but power is adequate.
Been a Mopar in my house for more than 25 years. Never had one leave me stranded or a failure.
I just bailed on 2 Hyundai leases. (Sonata Turbo) First lost a tranny. 2nd had an engine seize at highway speed. (not dramatic thankfully) All warranted, but still.
Wife's Durango will be replaced by a Durango later this year. Replaced the Hyundai with a German brand.
Passthedutch I haven't had any problems in the 3 years I've owned it.
Cx9 for me, honda has very sluggish drive just like the mdx
What if I want a big car/suv without useless elctronic optionals and stuff like that because I don't wanna pay stupid amounts of money?
i'd say something like a base model Nissan Rogue, or kia soul. keep in mind this is three row seaters, so its top of the top
My point is, not everybody with a family is rich, so if they made cheaper versionz of these SUVs with less useless optionals and electronics, more people could afford a new car for their family
Dave's Garage then you get a caravan
That's a fair point, but I was talking about families in need of a SUV. Of course if you don't need it you can get a van
Just get the base model, saves you at least 15 grand
by the way, i dare all of you reading this, to test drive the durango and the pilot....you will know right away that there is light years between them...Durango will outperformed the pilot in any test....and please don't reply with the "WHAT ABOUT RELIABILITY CRAP?" well....the pilot is garbage, just read the issues is having/.....and Dodge really did the Durango good, super reliable, just well made.
8000RPMS +1 I don’t know if this counts, but my mother’s 2013 Durango has been problem-free for 125k miles so far. Sounds pretty reliable to me.
Chevy tune is next traverse... On Jan 9 we will see Honda Pilot....
Highlander?
I wish the highlander and traverse were here to. But the Pilot was clearly the winner. After going 6th place 2 years ago when the last shootout took place, they really made it less blocky, has the family features needed and very good ride quality. But Honda, all I ask for is bring an actual volume knob, please for the touchscreen like the CRV and Odyssey are going to
How about the transmission issues??
Yes the 9 speed automatic has problems, and I'm not crazy with the push buttons for it but the 6 speed I'd go for
David Aubin, at what point will automakers realize that these 9 speed transmissions aren't necessary and the long term reliability issues that customers may have to deal with.
A Scott because a lot of these automakers don't think about long-term reliability anymore. They are only thinking about fuel economy , and the statistics that state that the average consumer trades in their car by the time the warranty expires. So for those of us that would like to keep the car long-term, they look at that now as "asking for problems". Which is why I'd rather buy used, they're actually more reliable...
Yes I see. I'll stick with the tried and true Lexus brand. 300k miles a few cars ago and no abnormal problems.
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I guess the Chevy Traverse and Buick Enclave will look similar to the new GMC Acadia when they get they're redesign in a couple of years.
Oh they look nothin alike now
Honda pilot and mazda cx-9!!
and there is the problem with traditionalism. they went with the Honda, despite boring styling, Shady Bill quality, and complicated features and operation. But, it's a Honda right?? I'll pass...
i want another excursion :(
That server Dude never again, brudda. Sorry
I’m for the Acadia
Based on what you've seen so far of the new VW 7 seater, how do you think it will compare?
Where is toyota highlander ?
toyota highlander? lol i swear it's the best selling in this category
No, im pretty sure its either the Explorer or the Pilot that are the best selling.
2016 YTD:
Explorer 226,650
Highlander 165,954
Santa Fe 120,395
Pilot 108,700
Traverse 106,320
Acadia 76,277
Pathfinder 72,333
Durango 62,678
CX-9 13,457
Kamaka Chang fair enough, second best sold SUV in this class
Kamaka Chang thanks for putting that there!
2016 YTD Oddballs:
Wrangler 176,053
Outback 162,203
Patriot 114,117
Encore 70,810
and Chevrolet Captiva Sport 2
Where is the class leading Toyota Highlander? Oh, wait they don't need your advertising.
Should have hooked up a 5K trailer and 4 kids in the second and third row and I bet the Durango and Acadia would move up.
If you're on a modest budget (well under 30K) the Mitsubishi Outlander has a third row seat. Yep, its not nearly as good as these others, but its about $15,000 less.
Jeff Morse It's a horrible vehicle in person. Trust me, horrible.
That honda is gonna cost a couple thousand dollars extra every 105k miles for engine timing work
when you are buying one of these really expensive toys and you are going to be paying top dollars for years you need to fall in love with them and say "uao that is one hell of a car" and you certainly could appreciate turning a few heads down the street , not "ohh i could carry here 22 potato sacs in these mini-van in disguise ", from all those CX9 is the biggest bang for your bucks with the Acadia a close second, a poor-man volvo but a lot prettier.
no Toyota Highlander???????
Highlander is the overall winner over all of these
Wow my
Where's the highlander lol
Later...
The Ascent comes
WHERE IS THE NAVIGATOR
2019 ascent wins it for me.
Highlander
And finally the pilot
All these others are not worth their sticker price. Styling is pointless cause guess what after 10 years it will be worth 25% what it started at. Buy honda, toyota or subarus and you will be extremely satisfied with quality and longevity. If you are buying a 3-row suv I hope you are looking at longevity over styling.
Those are all 🤮 so ugly and boring! And I don’t know anybody who actually keeps a car for 10 years to notice. But to each their own 👍
Honestly the Explorer should have won... its the best seller for a reason
Freedom . because of police fleet sales and rental companies. it's a cheap ass Ford, no one wants one except for government agencies and Enterprise.
I like the older explorer best! The 2003-2010 models! Nice, durable body on frame, seating for 7, and a reasonable size package!
It seems like when ever these test are done the good old reliable Mitsubishi is always left out.
$40k+ sheesh.. who can afford these?
The average transaction price of new cars is $32K in the US. Millions of people buy cars over $40K each year.
I got my 2001 Acura MDX used and only paid $2500!
The best 3-Row cars ever is : Volvo xc90 t8
Where’s the Chevy suburban
honda exhaust gets inside the cab just so you know... highlander is the most reliable off all
Durango
Cx9's interior and exterior looks great
how can the pilot be number 1 with all the transmission issues it has motor week is in Honda payroll
No Toyota Highlander in this review...surprising! One of the best selling and most reliable competitors in this segment for years and you don't even test it; hard to take this review seriously.
DODGE DURANGO!!!?
I bought the Santa Fe like an hour ago.
I'd buy a Explorer still
Why doesn't someone take these three row SUV ' S , load them up with a family of six and luggage for a long vacation and then make this comparison ? The results would be much different because most of these so called top runners have miniscule luggage capacity .
wait...the Durango can tow every single one of the other SUV's, and still carry 7 people, its the most quiet of all, has the best looks of all, best handling out of the bunch, and it has a sweet HEMI V8 that destroys all the competition.....and MOTOR WEEK won't even place it in the top 3? i guess Honda payed them good this year to make that non sense Pilot TOP....
8000RPMS because Dodge reliability is dead last. Since being bought by Fiat, they're plauged with major problems.
No one with a brain would buy a new Dodge.
8000RPMS um not best handling that goes to the CX-9
Passthedutch 9890 How brainwashed are you?
no highlander lol
i will stay with my 5speed manual 2000 cr v lol..
Yes Honda!!
The fastest one is the best one. None of these trucks can beat the Ecoboost it's the best and powerful engine of all-time.
julius jones the 5.7 hemi in the Durango will keep up and it sounds good too
julius jones The Tahoe V8 would annihilate it. Easily. That Ecoboost is 2 cylinders short of being a real engine. It's designed to hug trees.
julius jones The Durango SRT will make the Ecoboost look slow.
It's also the least reliable.. 😐😐😐
Highlander beats shit out of pilot in sales..
and performance. Only spot Pilot takes is the 3rd row comfort, but who puts adults back there anyway?
My personel breakdown= #1 Ford Explorer #2 GMC Acadia #3 Hyundai Santa Fe #4 Kia Sorento #5 Dodge Durango #6 Honda Pilot #7 Nissan Pathfinder #8 Toyota Highlander #9 Mazda CX-9
And Traverse will be rated when the 2018 midel comes out but it toes with the Sorento currently
These "expert" reviews to me are just their own personal 2 cents worth, in my opinion. So, here are my 2 cents worth: 1st place= Ford Explorer, 2nd place= GMC Acadia, 3rd place= Highlander, 4th= Dodge Durango, 5th=CX-9, 6th= Pilot and last place= Sorento/Santa Fe. I take the so called "expert review" as a personal opinion and nothing more. It never influences my choice but what does is the opinions of the many COMBINED.
davidrx795 have you priced used car's? Only 1 percent of difference between the two. Car and driver.
ford explorer bad transmision. so is the gmc.... go to carcomplaints... highlander wins
3 row SUV owners: Hey! Don't I look cool in my SUV? My passengers are cramped and cranky, and I can't fit any cargo, but don't I look cool?
Minivan owners: *Drives by with all comfortable passengers and ALL of their gear*
Honda pilot is MEH.
Looks Blah, and quality wise, the interior feels cheap. But people are still sticking to ".......But its a Honda" mentality, despite the pilot being an OK suv at best......
Boots N Pants Honda quality has gone to shit. Hyundai is slowly taking their place.
Boots N Pants also, the stereo sucks and it looks like a minivan now.
Robert Wells i agree, its basically a raised Minivan. garbage
I work in car rental and I just bought a Santa Fe 2.0T Ultimate. The Honda are ok but I hate driving them. The Nissan is the worst of all of them. As far as creature comfort I like the Durango but I hate, hate , hate the damn knob to change gears in them. The Ford Explorer has the worst radio and is a pain in the ass when driving it.
Nissan needs to up their game more!
Christopher Hernandez agreed the last gen looks a lot better
Acura MDX is the winner.
Geez I wonder who paid for this when the biggest bogus reviews several vehicles except for the Honda which is on the exception have some of the worst resell values number one and reliability over 100,000 miles what come on that’s not an opinion that’s enough fact like I said the only one that made sense was the Honda pilot
This review sucks. They don't know anything about cars. CX-9 rides and drives at the best. Look at other comparison reviews.
EXPLORER
ilike mazda cx9
A lightly used Sorento with AWD is what I'm looking for .
The Pilot also won the exterior's most unappealing category.
I'm always amazed how a family a 4 thinks that a 3-row middle size SUV is essential. To be quite honest, your kids don't need to be messing around going from the 3rd row to the 2nd, and to pay $45000 for something like these seems a little nuts and just a way to go into debt and stay there.
Best, first gen Toyota Sequoia, hands down
Ha😂 this is a joke. The explorer is the best styling and performance above the rest. The pilot as first place is crazy. Now reliability yeah no doubt but all other segments no. Gmc Acadia#2 really......how about last, cheapest and hope you have thick wallet because that check engine light is going to burn after 50000 miles till Jesus come a back.