How to fix GPU sag ONCE AND FOR ALL! FREE!

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  • Video cards have been getting heavier and heavier and the sag has been getting worse every year... so use this simple and FREE trick to stop it for good!
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  • @MrSuperduper5000
    @MrSuperduper5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12554

    I've been able to keep my 3080 from sagging by making sure it stays imaginary

    • @wossle73
      @wossle73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      LMAO.

    • @nofekun1889
      @nofekun1889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Lmfao

    • @OutOfNameIdeas2
      @OutOfNameIdeas2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      That's not even hard right now Ahhaha. :(

    • @juan2049
      @juan2049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You’ve had a year to get one bro

    • @modestmex
      @modestmex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@juan2049 Do you have one yourself ?

  • @geshtal2056
    @geshtal2056 ปีที่แล้ว +3237

    Jay is a pro at stretching out a video that should only be about 3 minutes

    • @mikecheeze4312
      @mikecheeze4312 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      No kidding, I thought a 30 second vid but same point made

    • @nhf7170
      @nhf7170 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Isn't there a time threshold for monetization (10 min, i think)?

    • @steelsteez6118
      @steelsteez6118 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@nhf7170 there is not.

    • @mr_daz
      @mr_daz ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@nhf7170 there is for ad rolls i think. Used to be 10 now its 8?

    • @CVerse
      @CVerse ปีที่แล้ว +41

      That’s why I’m glad TH-cam added the Most Watched feature in the timeline

  • @late_august
    @late_august 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Jay makes me feel better about handling my hardware, he beats the shit out of this card for what felt like forever and the damn thing still fires up

    • @silentdiscretion2657
      @silentdiscretion2657 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      So true. When I set up my first pc, I handled everything like I was doing open heart surgery. Probably still gonna do it anyway. Might as well ensure nothing bad happens to my 1000$ gpu

    • @j.d.4697
      @j.d.4697 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because when he breaks it he got dozens of spare parts lying around. Do you?

  • @holo2869
    @holo2869 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    This fix is for the wobble, not the sag. The only solution for the sag is to put support on the other end. But in todays shorter pcb and longer heatsinks, the support can just be on the edges towards the side panel (on a standard case), where the additional power plugs are usually placed, since the heatsink contact to the pcb is around in the middle of the card, that's where the weight stress is located most.

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      gpu sag it needs a pull up bra🤣🤣🤣

    • @bradleyrex2968
      @bradleyrex2968 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea, I put a popsicle stick in mine. A little black magic marker and it looks and works great!

  • @ChuckTownRC51
    @ChuckTownRC51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5184

    This is a masterclass in how to stretch a 5 minute video to 15 minutes.

    • @LakerTriangle
      @LakerTriangle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

      Could have be a short...

    • @harrislam8538
      @harrislam8538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +210

      cos Jay digresses way too much

    • @bhavzm9035
      @bhavzm9035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +402

      Another reason I stopped watching this channel often.

    • @LakerTriangle
      @LakerTriangle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@bhavzm9035 same

    • @miiiooo7731
      @miiiooo7731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      He just wanted to make sure to tell the people what actually is the problem with manufacturers and why they are sagging sure he could speak faster here and there but its a good video showing the problems wirh the 30 series aftermarkets

  • @ogLenas
    @ogLenas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3095

    10:00 minute mark for the start of the actual fix.

    • @Innero
      @Innero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      yeah ;\

    • @Stevenx01
      @Stevenx01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      Saved 5 more minutes of agony, thanks bro

    • @Blafard666
      @Blafard666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      You doing God's work ...

    • @oneillam1990
      @oneillam1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      king

    • @Eddie2P
      @Eddie2P 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      good idea needs some sort of compensation

  • @niko5514
    @niko5514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jay the only person I know having a superior case addressing the problem with special mounting points and still trying to fix this on his own.

  • @romanblanks1473
    @romanblanks1473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Another tip for free GPU support:
    An unexpected benefit of using the type of thick, stiff, reinforced and harder-to-work-with pcie power cables such as those that come with the Corsair rm - - - x PSUs (e.g. rm1000x) is that you can - after fighting with them more than you would with more giving cables - position and angle them to provide intrinsic upward support to the end of the GPU that is prone to sagging down (especially if you have them coming up through a shroud like they are in this video). That way the PCIe cables effectively act like the GPU stands (e.g. up-here) that sit on PSU shrouds/case bottoms and extend up to the same sag-prone unsupported end of the GPU.

    • @NameyNames
      @NameyNames ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not a bad idea in itself and I've no doubt that it works, but putting not-designed-for stress on the power connectors (and thus the PCB) might potentially be an issue (at worst e.g. causing a crack in the PCB or connector soldering point). No idea if this could actually be a problem, but just thought I'd mention it. 🙂

    • @ataman3141
      @ataman3141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I connected the psu cables (850x) by using upside way so it hold the gpu up.

    • @bustinofficial1331
      @bustinofficial1331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is what I did before I bought a GPU support bracket, the extra 13$ is much worth it, they have cheaper as well just wanted Antec to match the case, I've seen some for 6$

  • @hiyasuamv9776
    @hiyasuamv9776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1593

    These GPUs should legit come with a bracket at this point

    • @nickspacemonkey
      @nickspacemonkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      Or they could just you know, make them better in the first place?

    • @AtomikMenace
      @AtomikMenace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Msi gaming x trio 3070 I got came with one.

    • @Redswipe
      @Redswipe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      My Palit 3080ti did which was nice. Didn't need it 'cos it's vertically mounted but it was nice lol

    • @kyoudaiken
      @kyoudaiken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just bought the same 3090 but the OC edition, not the Gundam edition. It doesn't sag out of the box.

    • @ItsMeMars
      @ItsMeMars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      My RTX 3070TI Suprim X came with a stand. And I'm happy i did. It's way too heavy without stand 🥲

  • @hobbyadhd
    @hobbyadhd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    I was really hoping he would just slide a 3090 under the card to lift it up and then do a reveal.
    "All you need to do is buy a GPU to support your GPU. They are pack animals and need a companion" - Jay

    • @kyoudaiken
      @kyoudaiken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tell me where do you get that stuff 🤣

    • @squallloire
      @squallloire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I believe that's known as the Bezos method

    • @praetorxyn
      @praetorxyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But if the support sags, wouldn't it still sag? 🤣🤣

    • @hobbyadhd
      @hobbyadhd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kyoudaiken The pandemic has made me jaded and sarcastic maybe...?

    • @hobbyadhd
      @hobbyadhd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@squallloire He just uses a bottle of gamer's tears.

  • @NeuroPulse
    @NeuroPulse ปีที่แล้ว

    Jay, I keep coming back to your channel. You have the best tips!

  • @geefhotmail6311
    @geefhotmail6311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man, this is one of those nice pieces of information that makes a huge difference.

  • @richvandervecken3954
    @richvandervecken3954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +651

    I worked in manufacturing for 15 years. 99% of the time the engineers make changes that make a product worse is because a mid level manager wants a larger bonus check and makes them cut the production cost!

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Yup, got to cut out as much metal and plastic as physically possible to save pennies per product because. it looks good to save thousands over thousands of units.... So long as the customer doesn't complain or they can get sued over it.

    • @jorgeaura2890
      @jorgeaura2890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tbh, the sag problem is an aesthetic one, not a functional one (if the card is properly designed). So the product isn't really worse, it's just less pleasing and many people don't even care about that.

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@jorgeaura2890 Except it causes strain on both the connection for the card AND motherboard since it means there is weight being placed upon something that is intended purely as a connection point for electronics and not as support.. AKA your PCI slot.
      Over time it can bend the pins and loosen the PCI slot from the board.

    • @jorgeaura2890
      @jorgeaura2890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SilvaDreams The trick that Jay proposes doesn't address this. He's simply pre-sagging the gpu so that it looks level with the case. And I think that both the motherboards and gpus are designed wih this sag in mind.

    • @mrROAR104
      @mrROAR104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@jorgeaura2890 the trick he proposes absolutely does fix this. It isn't putting extra strain on the PCI slot, or if there is any it's much much less. he's not simply pre sagging the GPU so it looks level with the case. He's making it so it can't sag like that. Not sure if you watched the same video as us tbh.

  • @guillaumejoop6437
    @guillaumejoop6437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +623

    looking at Jay playing with the card, I can't tell if it's a "I know it won't break" or a "I don't care if it breaks" situation

    • @zpotato1346
      @zpotato1346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      probably little bit of both XD

    • @CakePrincessCelestia
      @CakePrincessCelestia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      At least he doesn't drop 'em.

    • @cocoahere875
      @cocoahere875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He did say in another video he has like 4 EVGA 3090s

    • @davesafian
      @davesafian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      All I know, is that if I were wiggling with a card like that I'd probably be replacing a motherboard and a gpu. That's how my luck usually goes. This sure did make me cringe though.

    • @qupeter1224
      @qupeter1224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i mean it would only kill the pcie slot on the motherboard in the worst case scenario, not a super hard fixed

  • @TooTurntAdam
    @TooTurntAdam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Just did this with my 3080 and it worked! Thanks for this simple and easy fix - was driving me crazy since I installed the new card.

    • @thenaberius6081
      @thenaberius6081 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its really nice If the case is fully black you wont even see the brackets.

  • @atsgem
    @atsgem ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My RTX 3080 TUF as shown in this video had very noticeable sagging. I purchased the card around the release of the 40 series cards but recently it was worrying me a bit so started searching youtube for any reviews on a Asus GPU Holder. So I found this video in the search results and tried the fix and now I can barely see any sagging at all. This video just saved me $90 Aud. Thanks Jay 👍

  • @Tomab89
    @Tomab89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +342

    This is one of the rare "THIS SIMPLE TRICK" videos that is actually not useless.

    • @riingo9795
      @riingo9795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      But still has a 15min video.
      It's informative with comparison and all but timestamps surely wouldn't hurt

    • @JayC133
      @JayC133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@riingo9795 Amen to that!!! Jesus I feel like this could have been a YT short or something with more people watching

    • @kanpeki3033
      @kanpeki3033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Except it took like 12 minutes to get to the point

    • @AdamOwenBrowning
      @AdamOwenBrowning 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's three minutes of useful advice. The rest exists for advertisement revenue and it's annoying.

  • @MichaelReeves412
    @MichaelReeves412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    “How to fix GPU Sag for Free!”
    Me who just had a GPU bracket delivered literally yesterday: 🗿🗿🗿

    • @magiclikorn5872
      @magiclikorn5872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      F that 10$ 😂 Rip bro

    • @builderphill1361
      @builderphill1361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got a dope v1tech bracket, but this would've been nice too 😂

    • @Xetanyl
      @Xetanyl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got an ezdiy fab bracket but can't install it since the screws that come w it don't fit in my case...

    • @kagato82
      @kagato82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually like my sag bracket. It compliments my build.
      Might have to try Jay's method with my son's PC. It has a EVGA 2080 Super that sags like crazy

    • @alienclay2
      @alienclay2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Does it have RGB?

  • @dominiclombardo6548
    @dominiclombardo6548 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought an evga 3090 and somehow this video showed up in my feed. Super simple yet such an ingenious fix! Thanks man!

  • @medievalan6285
    @medievalan6285 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jay truly is a master at prolonging a video

  • @LanceThumping
    @LanceThumping 2 ปีที่แล้ว +685

    I think the real issues is that PCIe/motherboard standards weren't designed with giant GPUs in mind.
    What we need is a redesign of the standard to account for different sized cards that can take up the full volume of space across the MB.

    • @skopperkopp6091
      @skopperkopp6091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Completely agree. Even if the gpus were designed more sturdy it would still put stress on the MB on the pcie slot.

    • @gorkskoal9315
      @gorkskoal9315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not entirely it's. stil the fact your put your parts on the side! just why would you do that.! look at
      Click image to open expanded view
      Thermaltake Level 20 VT, or the HAF Evo from cool master, or Silvertones horizontal cases. some of Azz have horizontal stuff going on to!. putting everything on the side like this is dumb.

    • @mikerzisu9508
      @mikerzisu9508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Although, thick heavy gpus have been around for many years now. Motherboard manufacturers have had plenty of time to adapt, but haven't. Honestly, not sure what the motherboard manufacturers can do, this is mostly a card and case issue. Jay shows how the cheap construction of the cards is leading to the sag. They need to design the cards with alot more support at the point of mount

    • @16vSciroccoboi
      @16vSciroccoboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Giant gpus and other aibs have been a thing for awhile.
      This is demonstrably card manufacturers being cheap.

    • @davidmason3841
      @davidmason3841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gorkskoal9315 I agree, I have a true desktop case, as the slots were designed for, a CM HAF EVO, when the Mobo is horizontal and the GPU is vertical straight above it, the weight is all supported, nothing is stressed.

  • @thegoodboi2748
    @thegoodboi2748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    I feel like most high end house should include their own anti sag bracket. Is it really that much extra cost to make a little strip of metal?

    • @T0asty-
      @T0asty- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I mean they used to come with SLI bridges, and a anti sag bracket sounds infinitely more useful.

    • @hg1986
      @hg1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it will kinda like be the case of apple not including chargers at their phones - even if you include one when shipping them out, the custom vga bridge market is becoming quite big, and people who actually care to get one better than cut off chopsticks and lego bricks would throw them away anyway. I think it would be cool for vga sellers to inculde them with cards tho, as the price tier would be way higher than cases and it would make sense for them to throw in something that costs like 20$ to make.

    • @Entrophius
      @Entrophius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The center of mass for a high-end is so far away from any of it's mounting points anti-sag bracket (or an adjustable standoff) seems like something mandatory at this point.

    • @cynic256
      @cynic256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      no...but they can not include it, then turn around and sell you it to you. much like iphones/samsungs with the chargers.

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because most people won’t care, like they don’t care about sleeved psu extenders.

  • @yelsisfunchannel8256
    @yelsisfunchannel8256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the fix man! Love it! More power to your channel! God bless.

  • @dainluke
    @dainluke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jay I give you props. You have major balls for using the tip of a screwdriver to push down on the PCIe clip. Good lord the idea of that is like nails on a chalkboard. I just envision that thing going straight though the PCB.

  • @M4rk155
    @M4rk155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +358

    the world needs a webpage dedicated solely on counting how many times Jay says "I digress" in all his videos

    • @Gamevet
      @Gamevet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It seems like a good idea, but I digress.

    • @lukepeter2501
      @lukepeter2501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He said it while I was reading this comment 😂

    • @guitarskooter
      @guitarskooter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I digress

    • @gorkskoal9315
      @gorkskoal9315 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL want to split the proffits? how much do you think we'd make?

    • @dixinsydergaming7265
      @dixinsydergaming7265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Used multiple times in every video haha

  • @TheBrewjo
    @TheBrewjo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    If she's delivered me sweet victory over the years, I don't mind if her GPU's get saggy. They'll always be perfect to me!

    • @elheferme
      @elheferme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love my girls 3070 Double S

    • @RealILOVEPIE
      @RealILOVEPIE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      can't upvote cause 69

  • @markarato8034
    @markarato8034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I once built a tiny support column for the gpu using lego, has been in use for ages. Works perfectly, and if you have the bricks you can customize it to the build. In my brother's pc we used fishing line and hooked it to the top of the case (there is an opening for air)

    • @AzraelAlpha
      @AzraelAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lego column gang represent

  • @richardrussell4022
    @richardrussell4022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This worked! I have a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh case, with an EVGA Gefore RTX 3070 FTW3. I took the two extra brackets, slid them in as described in the video and the sag is gone! The nice part about this case is it has a darkened border on the glass door, so you cannot even see the screws once everything is in place. Thanks Jay for the ridiculously simple and free solution. This should have 1M+ views.

  • @PiXimperfect
    @PiXimperfect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    Not here to fix the sag in my graphics card. Just here to confirm that it's normal 😅

    • @yasserasklou5491
      @yasserasklou5491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love your videos!

    • @dxrrk
      @dxrrk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Photoshop your GPU straight. Quick and easy, and most of all, unless you bought Photoshop, it's free ;)

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sagging is normal. You just have to make sure it doesn't get so bad that it dips into the water.

    • @GodKitty677
      @GodKitty677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you let the card sag, then the PCIe connector can crack at the part that clips into the motherboard slot. Then companies will deny warrenty.

    • @fajarfazriansyah1049
      @fajarfazriansyah1049 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GodKitty677 I just used the GPU holder, is it safe? I mean, is it possible to gpu holder broke the vga case?

  • @godthegod4491
    @godthegod4491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    GPU Manufacturers "Let's save a fraction of a penny by cutting down the bracket. Nobody cares how the card looks so let it sag!"
    Also GPU Manufacturers "Let's spend a bunch of extra money on RGB, custom backplates and cooler designs. People care how the card looks so make it pretty!"

    • @walkieer
      @walkieer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Much easier to market big shiny lights to a bunch of kids.

    • @nirast2561
      @nirast2561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Crazy thing is, you'll never see the cooler, because it's at the bottom of the card. Unless you're like me, and have an inverted PC, then you can admire it's glory and don't have to worry about sag either!

    • @RadioactiveBlueberry
      @RadioactiveBlueberry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sa(gge)d RGB

    • @unleashedsavage
      @unleashedsavage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ppl are the prob. Ppl keep buying garbage from the manafacturers so manafacturers are happy to oblige 🤷‍♂️

    • @cardinaldriver
      @cardinaldriver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wonder if this is a problem in Asian markets or are they just shaving off weight where they deem it unnecessary to save $ for US shipping costs. They can't be that blatantly stupid can they? It would take me 3 minutes on Autocad to fix this across every board partner.

  • @RatikusuCh
    @RatikusuCh ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an idea I'd sadly not ever come up with. Nice job figuring this out!

  • @humblegeorge
    @humblegeorge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the very best video you,ve ever done.Brilliant !!!

  • @vash_dakari
    @vash_dakari 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I've got one of those triple slot EVGA 2080's, and it was the best design they've had, almost zero sag. I was disappointed they didn't continue that with the new cards. If your card is already going to exceed 2 slots to begin with, you should add the 3 slot IO bracket to fight sag.

    • @linuxares
      @linuxares 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah I mean if the cooler is gonna take up that slot anyway. Just add that metal piece...

    • @Instanewt
      @Instanewt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      EVGA really went out of their way to use the crappiest bracket possible to give us clown lips on the back of the card.....

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Instanewt Bingo!!! My 1080ti looked nice/classy... and then they went Fugly on the 3080's so I went Asus Strix... Still like EVGA Modular Power supplies however... and they have great CS... but shoulda canned whomever designed their 30 series cards...

    • @Manulajes
      @Manulajes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can i have it?

    • @Yasokuhl35
      @Yasokuhl35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the only reason that I can think of is, that if you watercool the card, you would go down to 2 slots.. Just that you can't use the bottom slot for SLI anyways since they removed that option from most of the new cards anyways.

  • @jwdickieson
    @jwdickieson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    This is a pretty good fix I'm definitely going to use it, though I am a little confused as to why a several thousand dollar video card was not designed with that in mind

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meanwhile the wolf ran🥛🍼🍯🍮🍭🍬🍫

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And whenever she had 🎂🍪🍩🍨🍤

    • @Freneticburn
      @Freneticburn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      most people probably still have their GPUs hidden inside the case so it never mattered before but now everyone has a lightshow going on in their PC case and something like a saggy component became noticeable when they weren't before.

    • @tr1llwill
      @tr1llwill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Freneticburn It's not so much that it never mattered but more that it never really was an issue. Only in the last few years have GPU's grown to the huge sizes they are these days. There may have been a rare model but that's it. So the majority of builders didn't face GPU sag in their builds.

  • @johngrisum
    @johngrisum ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I am continually surprised that there hasn't been a standard made for creating a hook and latch for the opposite/inside part of the card. Would greatly help to prevent damage during shipping and metal/plastic fatigue and sag over time.

    • @toastedphantom3007
      @toastedphantom3007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've seen something like that being sold by caseking a couple years back but it's gone now. All I see now are the goofy support sticks.

  • @marounsfeir5225
    @marounsfeir5225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very necessary video! Love the content

  • @JS-up8ff
    @JS-up8ff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Fun fact:
    A lot of Gigabyte cards that became paperweights are rejected by Gigabyte because they find stress fractures at the tab going into the motherboard. And they blame the consumer for this, not themselves…

    • @addictedtoRS
      @addictedtoRS ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jay just made a video covering this exact thing, good job spotting this a year prior

  • @kamally
    @kamally 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love videos about these small details!
    These are the small specifics that you can only learn from tons off experience and often are never translated into a video.
    Thanks Jay!

  • @MrRevell13
    @MrRevell13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just about to start my first build this week and I'll absolutely be using this tip, thank you!

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just remember to shim and fill that void so no gpu sag and your system will look awesome and no need to worry that your gpu pcb might crack either nip that issue in the butt before it can happen so it does not happen

  • @dbailey3024
    @dbailey3024 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great vid thankyou keep them coming they are great Dylan

  • @HowlingCurve
    @HowlingCurve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I worked in construction for about 20 years and that face comment made me laugh probably more than it should have.
    Edit: I might make a 3d printable shim and upload it to thingiverse for those that want one. I'll update when it's done.

    • @cmarco3702
      @cmarco3702 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's kind of you

    • @SaleBosancheros
      @SaleBosancheros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Already designed and printed mine few months ago, but the thickness is probably the "trickiest" thing to get just right. So if you upload it I´d suggest varying it by 1mm each :D

    • @Torchedini
      @Torchedini 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaleBosancheros Or print it too high and then do some subtractive manufacturing to fit.

    • @SaleBosancheros
      @SaleBosancheros 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Torchedini Sure but I prefer my top layer to be top notch hahaha, jk for me 3.5mm worked out and they are very very fast to print, trying to find stl as of now to share it

    • @ciscornBIG
      @ciscornBIG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it done? I can not proceed with my current project until you have this finished and uploaded, sir.

  • @SteelSkin667
    @SteelSkin667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    That trend of triple-slot cards with two-slot brackets is definitely a bit silly. I think they started doing that because sometimes mini-ITX cases have enough room to accommodate those gigantic coolers, but only have two slots to attach a graphics card.

    • @niklasbergvall9656
      @niklasbergvall9656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Why not sell with two brackets. One 2 slot & one 3 slot 🤷.

    • @vasopel
      @vasopel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@niklasbergvall9656 screw-on brackets....include both of them in the box..and the buyer will fit the one that he wants ;-)

  • @Lestat070707
    @Lestat070707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bloody hell. You legend, thank you. Reminds me of the days of jury rigging at work, haha. Love this. Cheers once again! Can't believe I didn't think of this.

  • @j.b.9145
    @j.b.9145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome fix Jay. Thanks 👍

  • @ddrs15
    @ddrs15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    love the first fewminutes where jay is just fondling his gpu's

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The grandmother lived 👄👅🧠👁👀👣👃

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The wolf thought to himself🌳🌲🌱⚘🌷🌼🌻

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then just as he was going to

  • @QuiteLunacy
    @QuiteLunacy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So glad you made this video. I have the gigabyte 3080 and it is so heavy! I've noticed over the last few months that it seems to be sagging even a bit more than it did originally.

  • @mienaikobeb2965
    @mienaikobeb2965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you may called it stupidest video, but this is what i was looking for...
    btw thx as always for ur guide videos

  • @trible399
    @trible399 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow you just saving me a lot of money and trouble on this video ! why am I not saw this sooner !

  • @HeirofCarthage
    @HeirofCarthage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +663

    Awesome easy fix!

    • @DIYTech21
      @DIYTech21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Byt will viagra work ? IF we use like in custom loop ?

    • @thereaper4333
      @thereaper4333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes, the simple solutions are just the best.

    • @ISirSmoke
      @ISirSmoke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      u know what's an easier fix ? Lego. I just prop up my 2080ti on a support I designed.

    • @MasonStormSunny
      @MasonStormSunny 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It did not work. You owe me a plug.

    • @dhoffnun
      @dhoffnun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure is a lot more elegant than the acrylic pole tenting mine into position.

  • @zackdl
    @zackdl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm loving these daily jaytober uploads, Jay. If only it were like this every month!

  • @BlogingLP
    @BlogingLP ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the Tip, I might use it someday

  • @wolfgangberger3629
    @wolfgangberger3629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    in my point of view you dont need special brackets to avoid sagging cards. simply take a little piece of hard rubber and press it between the left lower end of your graphics card and the pc case. so gravity is pushing the card against the case and supports the pci-e slot. works good for me

    • @han-huo
      @han-huo ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Where are you getting pieces of hard rubber?

  • @madsox627
    @madsox627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    This is one of the best build mods I have ever seen. I’m always pissed that card makers insist on making the cards with so little support…

  • @itsjustdead_dcg6175
    @itsjustdead_dcg6175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is EXACTLY how I've done it since my first 30 series build. My first attempt was wedging one at the end but it wasn't aesthetically pleasing. Then I realized it could be stacked underneath. Great 👍 video Jay

  • @wwjnz9263
    @wwjnz9263 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I ended up getting a GPU support prop rod for $10. It arrived 5 days after I ordered it, and a day ahead of my 3080 arriving.
    Doing this fixes the cosmetic side of GPU sag. You're still relying on one small mount and your PCIe slot to support the weight of your GPU. Go with a prop rod, e-leash or something other than doing this. This fix still keeps a lot of stress on your PCIe connection, and that could break your GPU and/or your motherboard.

  • @user-rx3mq2cp4s
    @user-rx3mq2cp4s 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    actually cool trick. Nice to know that, ty !

  • @x135792468
    @x135792468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I'm always suprised at how flexible youtuber's PC parts are.

    • @tw1tch09
      @tw1tch09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Seriously I wince everytime Linus, Jay or Paul installs a 30 series card one handed lol

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tw1tch09 Why? They're experts. Each one of them has already installed more graphics cards during their careers than any of us ever will in a lifetime. I'm not worried about it at all, they know what they're doing.
      Except maybe Linus, he might drop it. 😏

    • @AvocadoBondage
      @AvocadoBondage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you implying theyre somehow more flexible than others pc parts? They dont flex any more or less than consumers lol.

    • @40yr.Old.Nerdin
      @40yr.Old.Nerdin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AvocadoBondage I suppose one could argue they tend to re-use boards and cards, installing and removing them multiple times. The slots and connectors could feasibly have more wear and tear than most consumer parts that get installed once and largely left alone.
      I do find everything looks like it installs effortlessly, while I know my parts and even PSU connectors were all quite snug in my latest fresh build.

  • @alexandervanderaarobinson757
    @alexandervanderaarobinson757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am embarrassed I didn't think of this on my own sooner. Thank you so much! I had trouble getting 3 stacked but knew if I only put 2 it wouldn't be thick enough so I had to widen the screw hole a bit.

  • @anglerfish61
    @anglerfish61 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually find this really helpful, not stupid at all. Thanks!

  • @pompulousify
    @pompulousify ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Only problem with this is you're still relying on a bit of force on the PCI-E slot which I'm not comfortable with. To put the least amount of force you need to support the GPU on the other side.

    • @DC-te1gw
      @DC-te1gw ปีที่แล้ว +4

      naa. we don't need to do anything. Nvida and AMD need to build them better!

    • @pompulousify
      @pompulousify ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DC-te1gw I mean yeah they could charge $10 more and provide a better "frame" for the GPU components to sit in/on but in the meantime I would recommend aftermarket options that support the GPU the way it needs to be supported.

    • @DC-te1gw
      @DC-te1gw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pompulousify or just lay your PC on its side. Problem solved for free 😅

    • @JohnDoeWasntTaken
      @JohnDoeWasntTaken 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No you're not, all this does is restore proper support to the GPU same as previous gen 20 series cards. The only reason GPU support brackets and stands exist is to fix the sag without addressing the root cause.

  • @Mangorille
    @Mangorille 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This worked amazingly on my EVGA 3090!! Just make sure when you shorten the plate, you do it enough so it doesn't touch the motherboard. I had to shorten mine more than Jay did in the video.

  • @JendaLinda
    @JendaLinda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The best solution would be support the card on both ends. Look at old IBM PC XT machines, the expansion cards are huge, they even have hard drives mounted on cards, and there are rails on the front of the case to slide the cards in.

    • @Paul-jb6rk
      @Paul-jb6rk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same with Mac Pro.

    • @BoGy1980
      @BoGy1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      with the variety of cases it's become impossible to do so... like 15 years ago you still had midi-cases that also supported the rails you're talking about, but those are only for full-sized AT/ATX expansion cards, which are VERY big, about the same size as the longer side of a regular ATX motherboard. Also i remember having such a card back in the mid '90s and it was hell for cabling. I remember having to buy extra long flat-cables for my hard drives and optic drives because my regular sized cables were too short as i had to route them around the topside of that full-length expansion card i had.

    • @RatchetLive
      @RatchetLive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most business oem PCs still build like this. Some even have a locking mechanism

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And it's not even a new thing with conumer cards. I remember that my 13 year old HD 4870 was sagging like crazy. Must be around that time that cards got pretty heavy and you could buy little standoffs to support the back end of the card from below.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BoGy1980 They're not that big. ~335mm, which is comparable to many graphics cards these days.

  • @benjojo09
    @benjojo09 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i finally got myself a Tuf 3080 and i will totally try this when building my new PC, thank you.

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dunno about first 10 minutes of the video, but the last four and half were pretty useful.
    Thank you!

  • @Xevailo
    @Xevailo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    "I've tried to shim it in the back"
    Yeah, me too. That's why I'm sleeping on the sofa the next days...

  • @crainger
    @crainger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I fixed my sag for free. Jay now holds up my GPU 24 hours a day.
    Just training him to not slap it around so much.

  • @kurtb369
    @kurtb369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    beauty by simplicity ! like it !

  • @johnhouseman8018
    @johnhouseman8018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm grateful. I thought the same thing with stupid looking anto sag brackets or braces. This workedreally well. Plus I love the fact that it looks so clean.

  • @kevinsheehan3759
    @kevinsheehan3759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    After watching this I took the two case brackets from my Corsair 4000D, cut off the tops and bottoms, and gorilla glued them together to form the shim. I have an EVGA 3080 FTW3 and it is now rock solid just as demonstrated... I cut and glued so I could add three layers to the shim without having issues with the screw on top.

  • @jeizen
    @jeizen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "There's a void that needs to be filled"
    ...
    Yeah.

  • @southsidesicario5716
    @southsidesicario5716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After nine years of watching your videos this video is the one that gets me to subscribe. Well done and thank you for the fix.

  • @cloudsweater
    @cloudsweater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My EVGA 3070 TI is sagging from the right and I know for damn sure long term it’s going to be a problem. This is my first PC and thank you for this!

  • @tbuksuperfly
    @tbuksuperfly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just popping back in to say I just used this method, installing my new card today; :) Worked like a charm! The phanteks anti sag bracket they supplied with the p600s was a complete waste of time.. did nothing. So yeh.. thanks for the useful idea :)

  • @CristianLopez-xi4rt
    @CristianLopez-xi4rt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    11:31 If you only have one shim, you can always bend it in the middle of the shim to make a curve, the bigger the gap to hit the cooler, the bigger the curve.

  • @kimbiwasmith9661
    @kimbiwasmith9661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any video that provides a free and effective solution to a common problem is a damned useful video.

  • @suicideghostftp
    @suicideghostftp ปีที่แล้ว

    i just took an old clipper lighter, made some soft pads on top and bottom and used that to support the card, looks cool and works well

  • @hsharma3933
    @hsharma3933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Rather than destroying two or more pcie brackets you could just get some rubber/silicone bumpers you’d use for cabinets and apply them to that third pcie bracket and it’d push against the card’s cooler in the same way.
    Only catch is you gotta check to make sure they don’t come off when you’re installing the card.

    • @BaneSIlvermoon
      @BaneSIlvermoon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also that their adhesive can handle the heat in the long term

  • @stungunnotapplicable1953
    @stungunnotapplicable1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "No, your face doesn't count."
    You can't stop me from climbing ladders with my face!

    • @dsilvermane_
      @dsilvermane_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Underrated comment. lmao

  • @Nienormalny
    @Nienormalny ปีที่แล้ว

    this is actually very useful video!

  • @Azhureus
    @Azhureus ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought 4080, this is handy af. Thanks Jay !!!

  • @hey_how_are_ya
    @hey_how_are_ya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had this problem on my 3080 Tuff. I solved it by 3D printing a black sag bracket. It worked very well and you can hardly notice it with the glass panel on with rgb lights on.

  • @lighter866
    @lighter866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Is Phil the best focus puller of all times? With Jay all over the place all the time, my vote's in!

  • @maxsunz3703
    @maxsunz3703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THX Mr. Jayz

  • @jaybeam1466
    @jaybeam1466 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I stepped away from PC gaming in 2010 and just returned in July of this year. I was shocked to see PCIe still being used. PCIe cards used to be much, MUCH smaller (same size as PCI and AGP cards.) These slots just weren't designed for the 10lb cards that are floating around today. Just pinning one in feels absurdly sketchy.

    • @Xorthis
      @Xorthis ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem isn't PCIe. The amusing fact is, if PCIe 32 becomes a thing, the slot will be long enough to offer much better support. The issue is that in GPU manufacturers went the route of speeding up the cards by increasing their power draw, and thus heat generation, requiring massive heatsinks to deal with the problem. My 4070ti is actually quite a small card, but 70% of its mass is the cooling solution. You can mitigate the issue by putting a waterblock on the card, but this isn't exactly the cheapest or easiest thing to do.

  • @LucasMp
    @LucasMp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That Gundam setup makes me feel things I can't actually say in such a wholesome channel's comment section. GOD DAMN!!!

  • @rand0mtv660
    @rand0mtv660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On an older build I had, I just tied butchers twine to the top of the case and looped it over some part of the gpu at the front and that fixed it for me. Pulled the card right back up and looked unique really.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, but I used fishing line attached to the plug of the power cable.

  • @Carnage488
    @Carnage488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gonna try this for sure

  • @priveaussi6830
    @priveaussi6830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just added a little 'stand' /'pushup bar' on the end of the card as support.... boom, works

  • @Fragxecutioner
    @Fragxecutioner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Other ways to fix sagging:
    - Use a vertical Case (I have a Silverstone Raven RV02 and i love it - it is over 10 years old, still best airflow i ever had)
    - put a drop of glue that gets really stiff between the cover in the Back and the cooler
    - use a vertical mount
    - fabricate a small support the most hanging edge of the card if you happen to have a 3D Printer...

    • @Fogolol
      @Fogolol 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      -Have a small or no gpu at all
      -Use water cooling (The water block is USUALLY way lighter than those beefy heatsinks)

  • @partycatplays
    @partycatplays 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Kinda makes me miss the old XT/AT days when case standards provided for a support at the far end of the case for full length ISA cards.

    • @sparkyenergia
      @sparkyenergia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still run two cases from Aopen that are built like that.
      Yes they are beige. Yeah, a super tower is a weird case to build a modern system in.

    • @partycatplays
      @partycatplays 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sparkyenergia no judgement here! I’d love to build a Beige Beast lol

  • @koko_1989
    @koko_1989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! This was totally useful actually!😃

  • @E3lcpl
    @E3lcpl ปีที่แล้ว

    such a simple fix and once you pointed it out seemed to obvious. I just got a Evga 3090 3987 model and it doesnt have that gap between the mounting shield like yours does .

  • @1R15H182
    @1R15H182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was wondering why the new gpus never had a support bar to help with sag, This was a really good video for anyone looking to fix this issue. Simple physics to fix it. now if they can just put the power cables on the end of the gpu to shorten the cables in view that would be amazing

  • @Teknickel_ftw
    @Teknickel_ftw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the things that I love with my 6990 was the PCB sandwiched between a back plate and a mid plate and then mounted to the pcie bracket mid the card not sag whatsoever. It is a much better design than any card made today.

    • @SuperBasslover1
      @SuperBasslover1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah same with the 7990 i had. i miss that card soo much! legit best card i have ever had

  • @CY3ER
    @CY3ER ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit, Jay does it again. Really great, cheap solution that every pc gamer deals with.

  • @skopeftisnclrp
    @skopeftisnclrp ปีที่แล้ว

    0:09 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣 I love you man , love this channel!

  • @Real_MisterSir
    @Real_MisterSir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    In the spirit of this video, doing a legitimate "ez life hacks" for pc building would be pretty neat. You know, just the very basic stuff that can make a decent change to your build/how you go about things, would be neat.

  • @NikolakiH
    @NikolakiH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The best way I’ve found to fix this problem is to buy low end graphics cards that aren’t heavy enough to sag. You are welcome for this very original idea 👍

    • @TsunaXZ
      @TsunaXZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another solution: Buy an APU

  • @kimbiwasmith9661
    @kimbiwasmith9661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great thinking! Thanks!

  • @user-hd7on4of8t
    @user-hd7on4of8t ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much, gonna try that on a 6800XT Red Devil soon