How to fix GPU sag ONCE AND FOR ALL! FREE!

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  • @MrSuperduper5000
    @MrSuperduper5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12928

    I've been able to keep my 3080 from sagging by making sure it stays imaginary

    • @wossle73
      @wossle73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      LMAO.

    • @nofekun1889
      @nofekun1889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Lmfao

    • @OutOfNameIdeas2
      @OutOfNameIdeas2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      That's not even hard right now Ahhaha. :(

    • @juan2049
      @juan2049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You’ve had a year to get one bro

    • @modestmex
      @modestmex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@juan2049 Do you have one yourself ?

  • @geshtal2056
    @geshtal2056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3519

    Jay is a pro at stretching out a video that should only be about 3 minutes

    • @mikecheeze4312
      @mikecheeze4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      No kidding, I thought a 30 second vid but same point made

    • @nhf7170
      @nhf7170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Isn't there a time threshold for monetization (10 min, i think)?

    • @steelsteez6118
      @steelsteez6118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@nhf7170 there is not.

    • @mr_daz
      @mr_daz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@nhf7170 there is for ad rolls i think. Used to be 10 now its 8?

    • @CVerse
      @CVerse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      That’s why I’m glad TH-cam added the Most Watched feature in the timeline

  • @ChuckTownRC51
    @ChuckTownRC51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5472

    This is a masterclass in how to stretch a 5 minute video to 15 minutes.

    • @LakerTriangle
      @LakerTriangle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +214

      Could have be a short...

    • @harrislam8538
      @harrislam8538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      cos Jay digresses way too much

    • @bhavzm9035
      @bhavzm9035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +413

      Another reason I stopped watching this channel often.

    • @LakerTriangle
      @LakerTriangle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@bhavzm9035 same

    • @miiiooo7731
      @miiiooo7731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      He just wanted to make sure to tell the people what actually is the problem with manufacturers and why they are sagging sure he could speak faster here and there but its a good video showing the problems wirh the 30 series aftermarkets

  • @late_august
    @late_august ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Jay makes me feel better about handling my hardware, he beats the shit out of this card for what felt like forever and the damn thing still fires up

    • @silentdiscretion2657
      @silentdiscretion2657 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      So true. When I set up my first pc, I handled everything like I was doing open heart surgery. Probably still gonna do it anyway. Might as well ensure nothing bad happens to my 1000$ gpu

    • @j.d.4697
      @j.d.4697 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Because when he breaks it he got dozens of spare parts lying around. Do you?

  • @ogLenas
    @ogLenas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3191

    10:00 minute mark for the start of the actual fix.

    • @Innero
      @Innero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      yeah ;\

    • @Stevenx01
      @Stevenx01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      Saved 5 more minutes of agony, thanks bro

    • @Blafard666
      @Blafard666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      You doing God's work ...

    • @oneillam1990
      @oneillam1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      king

    • @Eddie2P
      @Eddie2P 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      good idea needs some sort of compensation

  • @hiyasuamv9776
    @hiyasuamv9776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1650

    These GPUs should legit come with a bracket at this point

    • @nickspacemonkey
      @nickspacemonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      Or they could just you know, make them better in the first place?

    • @AtomikMenace
      @AtomikMenace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Msi gaming x trio 3070 I got came with one.

    • @Redswipe
      @Redswipe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      My Palit 3080ti did which was nice. Didn't need it 'cos it's vertically mounted but it was nice lol

    • @kyoudaiken
      @kyoudaiken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just bought the same 3090 but the OC edition, not the Gundam edition. It doesn't sag out of the box.

    • @ItsMeMars
      @ItsMeMars 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      My RTX 3070TI Suprim X came with a stand. And I'm happy i did. It's way too heavy without stand 🥲

  • @hobbyadhd
    @hobbyadhd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +492

    I was really hoping he would just slide a 3090 under the card to lift it up and then do a reveal.
    "All you need to do is buy a GPU to support your GPU. They are pack animals and need a companion" - Jay

    • @kyoudaiken
      @kyoudaiken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tell me where do you get that stuff 🤣

    • @squallloire
      @squallloire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I believe that's known as the Bezos method

    • @praetorxyn
      @praetorxyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But if the support sags, wouldn't it still sag? 🤣🤣

    • @hobbyadhd
      @hobbyadhd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kyoudaiken The pandemic has made me jaded and sarcastic maybe...?

    • @hobbyadhd
      @hobbyadhd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@squallloire He just uses a bottle of gamer's tears.

  • @holo2869
    @holo2869 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    This fix is for the wobble, not the sag. The only solution for the sag is to put support on the other end. But in todays shorter pcb and longer heatsinks, the support can just be on the edges towards the side panel (on a standard case), where the additional power plugs are usually placed, since the heatsink contact to the pcb is around in the middle of the card, that's where the weight stress is located most.

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gpu sag it needs a pull up bra🤣🤣🤣

    • @bradleyrex2968
      @bradleyrex2968 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea, I put a popsicle stick in mine. A little black magic marker and it looks and works great!

    • @galax12370
      @galax12370 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so what is the difference? if it cant wobble its still possible to sag? my evga ftw 3 ultra 3080ti is tilting very slightly but its barely noticible and doesnt wobble like in the video. does that mean its still sagging?

  • @richvandervecken3954
    @richvandervecken3954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +675

    I worked in manufacturing for 15 years. 99% of the time the engineers make changes that make a product worse is because a mid level manager wants a larger bonus check and makes them cut the production cost!

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Yup, got to cut out as much metal and plastic as physically possible to save pennies per product because. it looks good to save thousands over thousands of units.... So long as the customer doesn't complain or they can get sued over it.

    • @jorgeaura2890
      @jorgeaura2890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tbh, the sag problem is an aesthetic one, not a functional one (if the card is properly designed). So the product isn't really worse, it's just less pleasing and many people don't even care about that.

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@jorgeaura2890 Except it causes strain on both the connection for the card AND motherboard since it means there is weight being placed upon something that is intended purely as a connection point for electronics and not as support.. AKA your PCI slot.
      Over time it can bend the pins and loosen the PCI slot from the board.

    • @jorgeaura2890
      @jorgeaura2890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SilvaDreams The trick that Jay proposes doesn't address this. He's simply pre-sagging the gpu so that it looks level with the case. And I think that both the motherboards and gpus are designed wih this sag in mind.

    • @roar104
      @roar104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@jorgeaura2890 the trick he proposes absolutely does fix this. It isn't putting extra strain on the PCI slot, or if there is any it's much much less. he's not simply pre sagging the GPU so it looks level with the case. He's making it so it can't sag like that. Not sure if you watched the same video as us tbh.

  • @LanceThumping
    @LanceThumping 3 ปีที่แล้ว +687

    I think the real issues is that PCIe/motherboard standards weren't designed with giant GPUs in mind.
    What we need is a redesign of the standard to account for different sized cards that can take up the full volume of space across the MB.

    • @skopperkopp6091
      @skopperkopp6091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Completely agree. Even if the gpus were designed more sturdy it would still put stress on the MB on the pcie slot.

    • @gorkskoal9315
      @gorkskoal9315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not entirely it's. stil the fact your put your parts on the side! just why would you do that.! look at
      Click image to open expanded view
      Thermaltake Level 20 VT, or the HAF Evo from cool master, or Silvertones horizontal cases. some of Azz have horizontal stuff going on to!. putting everything on the side like this is dumb.

    • @mikerzisu9508
      @mikerzisu9508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Although, thick heavy gpus have been around for many years now. Motherboard manufacturers have had plenty of time to adapt, but haven't. Honestly, not sure what the motherboard manufacturers can do, this is mostly a card and case issue. Jay shows how the cheap construction of the cards is leading to the sag. They need to design the cards with alot more support at the point of mount

    • @16vSciroccoboi
      @16vSciroccoboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Giant gpus and other aibs have been a thing for awhile.
      This is demonstrably card manufacturers being cheap.

    • @davidmason3841
      @davidmason3841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gorkskoal9315 I agree, I have a true desktop case, as the slots were designed for, a CM HAF EVO, when the Mobo is horizontal and the GPU is vertical straight above it, the weight is all supported, nothing is stressed.

  • @Tomab89
    @Tomab89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    This is one of the rare "THIS SIMPLE TRICK" videos that is actually not useless.

    • @riingo9795
      @riingo9795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      But still has a 15min video.
      It's informative with comparison and all but timestamps surely wouldn't hurt

    • @JayC133
      @JayC133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@riingo9795 Amen to that!!! Jesus I feel like this could have been a YT short or something with more people watching

    • @kanpeki3033
      @kanpeki3033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Except it took like 12 minutes to get to the point

    • @AdamOwenBrowning
      @AdamOwenBrowning 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's three minutes of useful advice. The rest exists for advertisement revenue and it's annoying.

  • @romanblanks1473
    @romanblanks1473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Another tip for free GPU support:
    An unexpected benefit of using the type of thick, stiff, reinforced and harder-to-work-with pcie power cables such as those that come with the Corsair rm - - - x PSUs (e.g. rm1000x) is that you can - after fighting with them more than you would with more giving cables - position and angle them to provide intrinsic upward support to the end of the GPU that is prone to sagging down (especially if you have them coming up through a shroud like they are in this video). That way the PCIe cables effectively act like the GPU stands (e.g. up-here) that sit on PSU shrouds/case bottoms and extend up to the same sag-prone unsupported end of the GPU.

    • @NameyNames
      @NameyNames ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not a bad idea in itself and I've no doubt that it works, but putting not-designed-for stress on the power connectors (and thus the PCB) might potentially be an issue (at worst e.g. causing a crack in the PCB or connector soldering point). No idea if this could actually be a problem, but just thought I'd mention it. 🙂

    • @ataman3141
      @ataman3141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I connected the psu cables (850x) by using upside way so it hold the gpu up.

    • @busted2010LT
      @busted2010LT ปีที่แล้ว

      This is what I did before I bought a GPU support bracket, the extra 13$ is much worth it, they have cheaper as well just wanted Antec to match the case, I've seen some for 6$

    • @TheVerminus
      @TheVerminus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just don't try this with any card that uses the 12VHPWR connector or things might get a little melty

  • @guillaumejoop6437
    @guillaumejoop6437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +624

    looking at Jay playing with the card, I can't tell if it's a "I know it won't break" or a "I don't care if it breaks" situation

    • @zpotato1346
      @zpotato1346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      probably little bit of both XD

    • @CakePrincessCelestia
      @CakePrincessCelestia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      At least he doesn't drop 'em.

    • @cocoahere875
      @cocoahere875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He did say in another video he has like 4 EVGA 3090s

    • @omfg_its_dave
      @omfg_its_dave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      All I know, is that if I were wiggling with a card like that I'd probably be replacing a motherboard and a gpu. That's how my luck usually goes. This sure did make me cringe though.

    • @qupeter1224
      @qupeter1224 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i mean it would only kill the pcie slot on the motherboard in the worst case scenario, not a super hard fixed

  • @thegoodboi2748
    @thegoodboi2748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    I feel like most high end house should include their own anti sag bracket. Is it really that much extra cost to make a little strip of metal?

    • @T0asty-
      @T0asty- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I mean they used to come with SLI bridges, and a anti sag bracket sounds infinitely more useful.

    • @hg1986
      @hg1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it will kinda like be the case of apple not including chargers at their phones - even if you include one when shipping them out, the custom vga bridge market is becoming quite big, and people who actually care to get one better than cut off chopsticks and lego bricks would throw them away anyway. I think it would be cool for vga sellers to inculde them with cards tho, as the price tier would be way higher than cases and it would make sense for them to throw in something that costs like 20$ to make.

    • @Entrophius
      @Entrophius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The center of mass for a high-end is so far away from any of it's mounting points anti-sag bracket (or an adjustable standoff) seems like something mandatory at this point.

    • @cynic256
      @cynic256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      no...but they can not include it, then turn around and sell you it to you. much like iphones/samsungs with the chargers.

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because most people won’t care, like they don’t care about sleeved psu extenders.

  • @godthegod4491
    @godthegod4491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +320

    GPU Manufacturers "Let's save a fraction of a penny by cutting down the bracket. Nobody cares how the card looks so let it sag!"
    Also GPU Manufacturers "Let's spend a bunch of extra money on RGB, custom backplates and cooler designs. People care how the card looks so make it pretty!"

    • @walkieer
      @walkieer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Much easier to market big shiny lights to a bunch of kids.

    • @nirast2561
      @nirast2561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Crazy thing is, you'll never see the cooler, because it's at the bottom of the card. Unless you're like me, and have an inverted PC, then you can admire it's glory and don't have to worry about sag either!

    • @RadioactiveBlueberry
      @RadioactiveBlueberry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sa(gge)d RGB

    • @unleashedsavage
      @unleashedsavage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ppl are the prob. Ppl keep buying garbage from the manafacturers so manafacturers are happy to oblige 🤷‍♂️

    • @cardinaldriver
      @cardinaldriver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wonder if this is a problem in Asian markets or are they just shaving off weight where they deem it unnecessary to save $ for US shipping costs. They can't be that blatantly stupid can they? It would take me 3 minutes on Autocad to fix this across every board partner.

  • @pompulousify
    @pompulousify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Only problem with this is you're still relying on a bit of force on the PCI-E slot which I'm not comfortable with. To put the least amount of force you need to support the GPU on the other side.

    • @DC-te1gw
      @DC-te1gw ปีที่แล้ว +4

      naa. we don't need to do anything. Nvida and AMD need to build them better!

    • @pompulousify
      @pompulousify ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DC-te1gw I mean yeah they could charge $10 more and provide a better "frame" for the GPU components to sit in/on but in the meantime I would recommend aftermarket options that support the GPU the way it needs to be supported.

    • @DC-te1gw
      @DC-te1gw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pompulousify or just lay your PC on its side. Problem solved for free 😅

    • @JohnDoeWasntTaken
      @JohnDoeWasntTaken ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No you're not, all this does is restore proper support to the GPU same as previous gen 20 series cards. The only reason GPU support brackets and stands exist is to fix the sag without addressing the root cause.

    • @MagiconIce
      @MagiconIce 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnDoeWasntTaken Honestly, since SLI/Crossfire is dead anyways in PC Gaming, they could give future cards like the 50xx series even 4 slots in the back, to support them even better, because it is expected these will get bigger and heavier. Maybe we will one day see ultra heavy weight monsters in the 60xx series, look back at the 40xx series and be like "Maybe I judged you too harshly".

  • @TheBrewjo
    @TheBrewjo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    If she's delivered me sweet victory over the years, I don't mind if her GPU's get saggy. They'll always be perfect to me!

    • @elheferme
      @elheferme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love my girls 3070 Double S

    • @RealILOVEPIE
      @RealILOVEPIE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      can't upvote cause 69

  • @MichaelReeves412
    @MichaelReeves412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    “How to fix GPU Sag for Free!”
    Me who just had a GPU bracket delivered literally yesterday: 🗿🗿🗿

    • @magiclikorn5872
      @magiclikorn5872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      F that 10$ 😂 Rip bro

    • @builderphill1361
      @builderphill1361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got a dope v1tech bracket, but this would've been nice too 😂

    • @Xetanyl
      @Xetanyl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got an ezdiy fab bracket but can't install it since the screws that come w it don't fit in my case...

    • @kagato82
      @kagato82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually like my sag bracket. It compliments my build.
      Might have to try Jay's method with my son's PC. It has a EVGA 2080 Super that sags like crazy

    • @alienclay2
      @alienclay2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Does it have RGB?

  • @M4rk155
    @M4rk155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    the world needs a webpage dedicated solely on counting how many times Jay says "I digress" in all his videos

    • @Gamevet
      @Gamevet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It seems like a good idea, but I digress.

    • @lukepeter2501
      @lukepeter2501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He said it while I was reading this comment 😂

    • @guitarskooter
      @guitarskooter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I digress

    • @gorkskoal9315
      @gorkskoal9315 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL want to split the proffits? how much do you think we'd make?

    • @dixinsydergaming7265
      @dixinsydergaming7265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Used multiple times in every video haha

  • @wolfgangberger3629
    @wolfgangberger3629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    in my point of view you dont need special brackets to avoid sagging cards. simply take a little piece of hard rubber and press it between the left lower end of your graphics card and the pc case. so gravity is pushing the card against the case and supports the pci-e slot. works good for me

    • @cube-nite
      @cube-nite ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Where are you getting pieces of hard rubber?

  • @jwdickieson
    @jwdickieson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    This is a pretty good fix I'm definitely going to use it, though I am a little confused as to why a several thousand dollar video card was not designed with that in mind

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meanwhile the wolf ran🥛🍼🍯🍮🍭🍬🍫

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And whenever she had 🎂🍪🍩🍨🍤

    • @Freneticburn
      @Freneticburn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      most people probably still have their GPUs hidden inside the case so it never mattered before but now everyone has a lightshow going on in their PC case and something like a saggy component became noticeable when they weren't before.

    • @tr1llwill
      @tr1llwill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Freneticburn It's not so much that it never mattered but more that it never really was an issue. Only in the last few years have GPU's grown to the huge sizes they are these days. There may have been a rare model but that's it. So the majority of builders didn't face GPU sag in their builds.

  • @vash_dakari
    @vash_dakari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I've got one of those triple slot EVGA 2080's, and it was the best design they've had, almost zero sag. I was disappointed they didn't continue that with the new cards. If your card is already going to exceed 2 slots to begin with, you should add the 3 slot IO bracket to fight sag.

    • @linuxares
      @linuxares 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah I mean if the cooler is gonna take up that slot anyway. Just add that metal piece...

    • @Instanewt
      @Instanewt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      EVGA really went out of their way to use the crappiest bracket possible to give us clown lips on the back of the card.....

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Instanewt Bingo!!! My 1080ti looked nice/classy... and then they went Fugly on the 3080's so I went Asus Strix... Still like EVGA Modular Power supplies however... and they have great CS... but shoulda canned whomever designed their 30 series cards...

    • @Manulajes
      @Manulajes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can i have it?

    • @Yasokuhl35
      @Yasokuhl35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the only reason that I can think of is, that if you watercool the card, you would go down to 2 slots.. Just that you can't use the bottom slot for SLI anyways since they removed that option from most of the new cards anyways.

  • @PiXimperfect
    @PiXimperfect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +610

    Not here to fix the sag in my graphics card. Just here to confirm that it's normal 😅

    • @yasserasklou5491
      @yasserasklou5491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love your videos!

    • @dxrrk
      @dxrrk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Photoshop your GPU straight. Quick and easy, and most of all, unless you bought Photoshop, it's free ;)

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sagging is normal. You just have to make sure it doesn't get so bad that it dips into the water.

    • @GodKitty677
      @GodKitty677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you let the card sag, then the PCIe connector can crack at the part that clips into the motherboard slot. Then companies will deny warrenty.

    • @Jarheeead
      @Jarheeead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GodKitty677 I just used the GPU holder, is it safe? I mean, is it possible to gpu holder broke the vga case?

  • @johngrisum
    @johngrisum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I am continually surprised that there hasn't been a standard made for creating a hook and latch for the opposite/inside part of the card. Would greatly help to prevent damage during shipping and metal/plastic fatigue and sag over time.

    • @toastedphantom3007
      @toastedphantom3007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've seen something like that being sold by caseking a couple years back but it's gone now. All I see now are the goofy support sticks.

  • @HowlingCurve
    @HowlingCurve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I worked in construction for about 20 years and that face comment made me laugh probably more than it should have.
    Edit: I might make a 3d printable shim and upload it to thingiverse for those that want one. I'll update when it's done.

    • @cmarco3702
      @cmarco3702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's kind of you

    • @SaleBosancheros
      @SaleBosancheros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Already designed and printed mine few months ago, but the thickness is probably the "trickiest" thing to get just right. So if you upload it I´d suggest varying it by 1mm each :D

    • @Torchedini
      @Torchedini 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaleBosancheros Or print it too high and then do some subtractive manufacturing to fit.

    • @SaleBosancheros
      @SaleBosancheros 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Torchedini Sure but I prefer my top layer to be top notch hahaha, jk for me 3.5mm worked out and they are very very fast to print, trying to find stl as of now to share it

    • @ciscornBIG
      @ciscornBIG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it done? I can not proceed with my current project until you have this finished and uploaded, sir.

  • @JS-up8ff
    @JS-up8ff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Fun fact:
    A lot of Gigabyte cards that became paperweights are rejected by Gigabyte because they find stress fractures at the tab going into the motherboard. And they blame the consumer for this, not themselves…

    • @addictedtoRS
      @addictedtoRS ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jay just made a video covering this exact thing, good job spotting this a year prior

  • @SteelSkin667
    @SteelSkin667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    That trend of triple-slot cards with two-slot brackets is definitely a bit silly. I think they started doing that because sometimes mini-ITX cases have enough room to accommodate those gigantic coolers, but only have two slots to attach a graphics card.

    • @niklasbergvall9656
      @niklasbergvall9656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Why not sell with two brackets. One 2 slot & one 3 slot 🤷.

    • @vasopel
      @vasopel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@niklasbergvall9656 screw-on brackets....include both of them in the box..and the buyer will fit the one that he wants ;-)

  • @wwjnz9263
    @wwjnz9263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I ended up getting a GPU support prop rod for $10. It arrived 5 days after I ordered it, and a day ahead of my 3080 arriving.
    Doing this fixes the cosmetic side of GPU sag. You're still relying on one small mount and your PCIe slot to support the weight of your GPU. Go with a prop rod, e-leash or something other than doing this. This fix still keeps a lot of stress on your PCIe connection, and that could break your GPU and/or your motherboard.

  • @madsox627
    @madsox627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    This is one of the best build mods I have ever seen. I’m always pissed that card makers insist on making the cards with so little support…

  • @kevinsheehan3759
    @kevinsheehan3759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    After watching this I took the two case brackets from my Corsair 4000D, cut off the tops and bottoms, and gorilla glued them together to form the shim. I have an EVGA 3080 FTW3 and it is now rock solid just as demonstrated... I cut and glued so I could add three layers to the shim without having issues with the screw on top.

  • @JendaLinda
    @JendaLinda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The best solution would be support the card on both ends. Look at old IBM PC XT machines, the expansion cards are huge, they even have hard drives mounted on cards, and there are rails on the front of the case to slide the cards in.

    • @Paul-jb6rk
      @Paul-jb6rk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same with Mac Pro.

    • @BoGy1980
      @BoGy1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      with the variety of cases it's become impossible to do so... like 15 years ago you still had midi-cases that also supported the rails you're talking about, but those are only for full-sized AT/ATX expansion cards, which are VERY big, about the same size as the longer side of a regular ATX motherboard. Also i remember having such a card back in the mid '90s and it was hell for cabling. I remember having to buy extra long flat-cables for my hard drives and optic drives because my regular sized cables were too short as i had to route them around the topside of that full-length expansion card i had.

    • @RatchetLive
      @RatchetLive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most business oem PCs still build like this. Some even have a locking mechanism

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And it's not even a new thing with conumer cards. I remember that my 13 year old HD 4870 was sagging like crazy. Must be around that time that cards got pretty heavy and you could buy little standoffs to support the back end of the card from below.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BoGy1980 They're not that big. ~335mm, which is comparable to many graphics cards these days.

  • @Gimpy17
    @Gimpy17 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Start at 11:10, if you just need to see what the hell he is trying to do. 10 minutes of ranting and showing multiple gpus was a little unnecessary and it makes coming back to this video to try and use his technique very tedious due to the amount of scrubbing needed to find the part of the video anyone wants to see.

  • @x135792468
    @x135792468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I'm always suprised at how flexible youtuber's PC parts are.

    • @tw1tch09
      @tw1tch09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Seriously I wince everytime Linus, Jay or Paul installs a 30 series card one handed lol

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tw1tch09 Why? They're experts. Each one of them has already installed more graphics cards during their careers than any of us ever will in a lifetime. I'm not worried about it at all, they know what they're doing.
      Except maybe Linus, he might drop it. 😏

    • @AvocadoBondage
      @AvocadoBondage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you implying theyre somehow more flexible than others pc parts? They dont flex any more or less than consumers lol.

    • @40yr.Old.Nerdin
      @40yr.Old.Nerdin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AvocadoBondage I suppose one could argue they tend to re-use boards and cards, installing and removing them multiple times. The slots and connectors could feasibly have more wear and tear than most consumer parts that get installed once and largely left alone.
      I do find everything looks like it installs effortlessly, while I know my parts and even PSU connectors were all quite snug in my latest fresh build.

  • @HeirofCarthage
    @HeirofCarthage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +661

    Awesome easy fix!

    • @DIYTech21
      @DIYTech21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Byt will viagra work ? IF we use like in custom loop ?

    • @thereaper4333
      @thereaper4333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes, the simple solutions are just the best.

    • @ISirSmoke
      @ISirSmoke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      u know what's an easier fix ? Lego. I just prop up my 2080ti on a support I designed.

    • @MasonStormSunny
      @MasonStormSunny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It did not work. You owe me a plug.

    • @dhoffnun
      @dhoffnun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure is a lot more elegant than the acrylic pole tenting mine into position.

  • @ddrs15
    @ddrs15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    love the first fewminutes where jay is just fondling his gpu's

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The grandmother lived 👄👅🧠👁👀👣👃

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The wolf thought to himself🌳🌲🌱⚘🌷🌼🌻

    • @f-ckmyr0fil788
      @f-ckmyr0fil788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then just as he was going to

  • @AffxctFPS
    @AffxctFPS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jay I give you props. You have major balls for using the tip of a screwdriver to push down on the PCIe clip. Good lord the idea of that is like nails on a chalkboard. I just envision that thing going straight though the PCB.

    • @iitzfizz
      @iitzfizz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I just came to post this, ain't no way I'm prodding that little clip with a screwdriver in case it slips, hell I'm ever nervous pressing it with my hand. I guess he has enough money to the point it would just be a little oopsie.

  • @CristianLopez-xi4rt
    @CristianLopez-xi4rt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    11:31 If you only have one shim, you can always bend it in the middle of the shim to make a curve, the bigger the gap to hit the cooler, the bigger the curve.

  • @crainger
    @crainger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I fixed my sag for free. Jay now holds up my GPU 24 hours a day.
    Just training him to not slap it around so much.

  • @Mangorille
    @Mangorille 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This worked amazingly on my EVGA 3090!! Just make sure when you shorten the plate, you do it enough so it doesn't touch the motherboard. I had to shorten mine more than Jay did in the video.

  • @markarato8034
    @markarato8034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I once built a tiny support column for the gpu using lego, has been in use for ages. Works perfectly, and if you have the bricks you can customize it to the build. In my brother's pc we used fishing line and hooked it to the top of the case (there is an opening for air)

    • @AzraelAlpha
      @AzraelAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Lego column gang represent

  • @kamally
    @kamally 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love videos about these small details!
    These are the small specifics that you can only learn from tons off experience and often are never translated into a video.
    Thanks Jay!

  • @Xevailo
    @Xevailo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    "I've tried to shim it in the back"
    Yeah, me too. That's why I'm sleeping on the sofa the next days...

  • @hsharma3933
    @hsharma3933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Rather than destroying two or more pcie brackets you could just get some rubber/silicone bumpers you’d use for cabinets and apply them to that third pcie bracket and it’d push against the card’s cooler in the same way.
    Only catch is you gotta check to make sure they don’t come off when you’re installing the card.

    • @BaneSIlvermoon
      @BaneSIlvermoon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also that their adhesive can handle the heat in the long term

  • @thePavuk
    @thePavuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    20 years ago, when I put too heavy cooler on weak graphic card, I solved this problem with supporting card with wooden stick from bottom of the case.

  • @QuiteLunacy
    @QuiteLunacy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So glad you made this video. I have the gigabyte 3080 and it is so heavy! I've noticed over the last few months that it seems to be sagging even a bit more than it did originally.

  • @itsjustdead_dcg6175
    @itsjustdead_dcg6175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is EXACTLY how I've done it since my first 30 series build. My first attempt was wedging one at the end but it wasn't aesthetically pleasing. Then I realized it could be stacked underneath. Great 👍 video Jay

  • @jl9752
    @jl9752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This is one of the things I appreciate about my 3090 founders edition, the three slot in combination with more of a unibody design really provides added support to prevent sagging

    • @messystressy
      @messystressy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The pcie shield screwing directly into the cooler is brilliant design

    • @nja3817
      @nja3817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got a 3070FE and same thing here, no sag in a small ITX motherboard.
      And i somewhat feel safer because of no components being exposed, so no humidity/moisture/dust issues

    • @syed2694
      @syed2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nja3817 3070Fe is never going to sag, it's a small card

    • @nja3817
      @nja3817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@syed2694 It's very heavy and indeed bending at the end

    • @syed2694
      @syed2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nja3817 No it isn't, I have one.

  • @RocZi
    @RocZi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks to the first 10 minutes of explanation, now you know why the extra bracket works and where it should be supporting.
    Also i got a EVGA RTX 3080 XC3 which is 3.59 pounds or 1.62 kg. I have been using it for 3.5 years and do carry my PC around for maintenance from time to time so there's some movement applied. Everything is fine at this moment.
    but i think although Jayz help in the aesthetic of no more sag, i think the main concern should always be the PCIe slot that is holding the majority of the weight at the other side of the GPU. the brackets only carry the extreme end of the card.
    There will always be weight pulling down on the other side. only thing is how big of a concern is it? nobody knows until the connector broke

  • @Jopeymessmusic
    @Jopeymessmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "See my hand right there, that's where the sag is happening. You have to fill that void". Jay, I try to fill the void everyday it's pretty endless! Ha ha ha.

  • @theceilidhinthemists
    @theceilidhinthemists 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Kinda makes me miss the old XT/AT days when case standards provided for a support at the far end of the case for full length ISA cards.

    • @sparkyenergia
      @sparkyenergia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still run two cases from Aopen that are built like that.
      Yes they are beige. Yeah, a super tower is a weird case to build a modern system in.

    • @theceilidhinthemists
      @theceilidhinthemists 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sparkyenergia no judgement here! I’d love to build a Beige Beast lol

  • @hey_how_are_ya
    @hey_how_are_ya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had this problem on my 3080 Tuff. I solved it by 3D printing a black sag bracket. It worked very well and you can hardly notice it with the glass panel on with rgb lights on.

  • @richardrussell4022
    @richardrussell4022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This worked! I have a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh case, with an EVGA Gefore RTX 3070 FTW3. I took the two extra brackets, slid them in as described in the video and the sag is gone! The nice part about this case is it has a darkened border on the glass door, so you cannot even see the screws once everything is in place. Thanks Jay for the ridiculously simple and free solution. This should have 1M+ views.

  • @thelistener4101
    @thelistener4101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    IF so many GPUs are now OVERSIZED & HEAVY, is it time to return to the "Horizontal Desktop" for a majority of PC components to be less abused???

    • @LyK0sa
      @LyK0sa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can't see that being a popular idea. First off it'd be more difficult to showcase your hardware, second the desk footprint would be enormous. It was fine back when you could just stick it under your CRT monitor that was the size of a microwave, not so much now.

    • @Funlu
      @Funlu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If cards really get that big, I think case manufacturers will add an integrated gpu mount with riser support before this happens.

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only if you were doing one of those Desk Pc's like Linus did...

    • @Ricardo-dg4eg
      @Ricardo-dg4eg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s my foot rest 🤣

    • @Gabu_
      @Gabu_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@LyK0sa Right, to showcase your hardware to... absolutely nobody but yourself. This fad of having super showy setups is nothing short of narcissistic.

  • @stungunnotapplicable1953
    @stungunnotapplicable1953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "No, your face doesn't count."
    You can't stop me from climbing ladders with my face!

    • @dsilvermane0
      @dsilvermane0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Underrated comment. lmao

  • @lighter866
    @lighter866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Is Phil the best focus puller of all times? With Jay all over the place all the time, my vote's in!

  • @RealDiaFr
    @RealDiaFr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even if the back of the card is supported, the card will warp downward over time regardless; the bend happens throughout the whole structure. That's something that occurs over years though; not an immediate visual sag. You'd need some kind of brace to stop that.

    • @weeooh1
      @weeooh1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not if you have a metal back-plate the covers the PCB.

    • @Xorthis
      @Xorthis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weeooh1 Ah yes because metal is unbendable...
      Over time, this will happen to any card which is heavy enough and has no back support.

    • @weeooh1
      @weeooh1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Xorthis Of course metal is bendable. But would need far more force than the weight of the card.

    • @Xorthis
      @Xorthis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@weeooh1 Over a long period of time, and repeated heating/cooling cycles you'd be surprised...

  • @jeizen
    @jeizen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "There's a void that needs to be filled"
    ...
    Yeah.

  • @Fragxecutioner
    @Fragxecutioner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Other ways to fix sagging:
    - Use a vertical Case (I have a Silverstone Raven RV02 and i love it - it is over 10 years old, still best airflow i ever had)
    - put a drop of glue that gets really stiff between the cover in the Back and the cooler
    - use a vertical mount
    - fabricate a small support the most hanging edge of the card if you happen to have a 3D Printer...

    • @Fogolol
      @Fogolol 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      -Have a small or no gpu at all
      -Use water cooling (The water block is USUALLY way lighter than those beefy heatsinks)

  • @somethingsnowing
    @somethingsnowing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I like that he showed multiple cards and how each does or doesn’t try to combat sag. Great video Jay

    • @spasmonaut10
      @spasmonaut10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, and it just made me more sad that these cards are astronomical in price and that few of us get to play with toys that shiny. Good video, nonetheless, but still, just a shade green over here...

    • @Kaboomnz
      @Kaboomnz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spasmonaut10 Don't worry, at least you don't have to go through the buyers remorse.

  • @XavierBaker
    @XavierBaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    this could have been a 2 minute video.

    • @WhatWhiteMenSay
      @WhatWhiteMenSay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      2 minutes doesn't make the money

  • @tbuksuperfly
    @tbuksuperfly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just popping back in to say I just used this method, installing my new card today; :) Worked like a charm! The phanteks anti sag bracket they supplied with the p600s was a complete waste of time.. did nothing. So yeh.. thanks for the useful idea :)

  • @bakut3n524
    @bakut3n524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just did this with my EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 Ultra and I got to say it actually works! Not that I ever doubted Jay, but it really didn't look like it was sagging all that much anyway. But doing this pushed it up a couple MM. Nice!

    • @TB_SnEaKy
      @TB_SnEaKy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just got the same card last night, I start building my first pc tomorrow.

  • @-ColorMehJewish-
    @-ColorMehJewish- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I personally like the "arm" that goes under the GPU's and bolts to the same rear holes as where the GPU would...
    So far its been a great solution (I used to zip tie around the 6 pin plugs, up to a drive bay but I dont have that type of case anymore)

  • @jaybeam1466
    @jaybeam1466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I stepped away from PC gaming in 2010 and just returned in July of this year. I was shocked to see PCIe still being used. PCIe cards used to be much, MUCH smaller (same size as PCI and AGP cards.) These slots just weren't designed for the 10lb cards that are floating around today. Just pinning one in feels absurdly sketchy.

    • @Xorthis
      @Xorthis ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem isn't PCIe. The amusing fact is, if PCIe 32 becomes a thing, the slot will be long enough to offer much better support. The issue is that in GPU manufacturers went the route of speeding up the cards by increasing their power draw, and thus heat generation, requiring massive heatsinks to deal with the problem. My 4070ti is actually quite a small card, but 70% of its mass is the cooling solution. You can mitigate the issue by putting a waterblock on the card, but this isn't exactly the cheapest or easiest thing to do.

  • @brahimbrd2156
    @brahimbrd2156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    "And it just looks like your graphics card needs viagra"
    *Dad* *LOL'ed*

  • @LucasMp
    @LucasMp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That Gundam setup makes me feel things I can't actually say in such a wholesome channel's comment section. GOD DAMN!!!

  • @Real_MisterSir
    @Real_MisterSir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    In the spirit of this video, doing a legitimate "ez life hacks" for pc building would be pretty neat. You know, just the very basic stuff that can make a decent change to your build/how you go about things, would be neat.

  • @skopeftisnclrp
    @skopeftisnclrp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:09 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣 I love you man , love this channel!

  • @Clavichordist
    @Clavichordist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Thank you for the simple fix!
    There are other implications with sagging cards. Over time, the PCB its self will warp and cause intermittent failures as the etches crack and solder joints fail. This was an issue some years ago with poorly designed cases causing the motherboards to warp and flex. The other issue too is as the video card sags, this will put stress on the motherboard its self and that will cause etch-failures along the PCI-e slots.
    I ran into these kinds of issues a few decades ago, or more now actually (I'm getting old) with various circuit boards I used to repair back when I used to be a board technician.

    • @Clavichordist
      @Clavichordist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CRSolarice You're absolutely right. It's funny how ideas float around then return.
      Back in the olden days, the issue was solved by using a channel to support the PCB along its edge near the front of the case. This worked well until cards were pulled in and out carelessly breaking the plastic channel or popping it out of its mounts. When that occurred, the cards would sag and cause problems with the motherboard such as the ones I mentioned. I ran into many motherboards that had ripped connectors and pulled etches. Sadly, once that occurred it was quicker to scrap the board than it was to repair it which could be done using buss-wire and solder. This latter part wouldn't be possible today due to the high frequencies we find with our computer busses. Back then things were in the Khz and low Mhz range.
      The other issue we face today is computers are not all the same size and not all are manufactured in factories like Dell, Lenovo, and HP. Today, we have enthusiasts putting machines together with various sized cases and motherboards, making a one size fits all solution impossible.

    • @Clavichordist
      @Clavichordist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CRSolarice I'm not much further behind you. I currently have an i7-5860. I agree going for the latest and greatest isn't necessary and I too go for the "new stuff" later usually to let the crowds pay for the hardware development and work the bugs out before I come along and get the stable hardware for a lot less than they paid for it.
      Right now, I am looking to replace my system because I lost some USB ports on my motherboard. I powered up my PC and the keyboard and mouse didn't work and neither did my backup drive. I jiggled wires, but that didn't do it. After a second reboot and replaced keyboard and mouse, the system booted, and the hard drive appeared but the system can't find 3 USB ports. My 1080 TI and RAM still works and so do my hard drives. I'll get another motherboard, one with a faster chip and move my RAM, hard drives, and video card over to that.
      In the 1970s I was building electronic kits and instead of becoming a music major like I originally planned (parents said NO!), I got into electronics instead. I headed initially to engineering but found tech stuff more fun and eventually landed in the hardware tech field testing and repairing circuit boards until those jobs went overseas. Today, given my eyesight, I'm not even sure I could do it because the components and everything is the size of ants. The stuff I worked with were the typical 70s and 80s equipment with little surface mounted components. I repaired disk drive controllers, modems, video terminals, and all kinds of memory cards, I/O controllers and comms cards. I learned a lot too and came to the conclusion that even the stuff we have today is still the same as yesterday except smaller, faster, and more delicate.
      Your concern is a big one because that can ruin the sockets eventually as I saw in the ancient hardware with cards not supported. Some of those systems had what we referred to as board packs. These were multiple boards that plugged into a single one via riser connectors and ribbon cables. This made a heavy pack, about as heavy as those new video cards. Without that extra support on one edge, that would eventually pull out of the socket and sometimes ruin the motherboard or backplane depending upon which style system these were in.
      Laying down your case isn't such a bad thing. The problem is It will be absolutely terrible you won't be able to see those blinking lights! We'll have to commiserate over a beer someday on that one. 🙂

    • @miniracersus
      @miniracersus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CRSolarice excellent comment.

  • @NikolakiH
    @NikolakiH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The best way I’ve found to fix this problem is to buy low end graphics cards that aren’t heavy enough to sag. You are welcome for this very original idea 👍

    • @TsunaXZ
      @TsunaXZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another solution: Buy an APU

  • @666Necropsy
    @666Necropsy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    the 3 slot design really seems the way to go. hopefully they make more cards like that in the future.

    • @JFTN123
      @JFTN123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or design GPUs that consume less power and require a lighter and thinner cooler

    • @CakePrincessCelestia
      @CakePrincessCelestia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Would have been the solution ever since the coolers make the 3rd slot unusable anyway, and even way before that it's always been recommended to keep the slot beneath free because of the airflow.
      But I guess that little bit of metal to have a 3 slot instead of 2 slot bracket is just waaaaay too expensive - even on a $3000 card. Will never understand those utterly dumb business decisions, never ever.

  • @rayDJ.AbdNas
    @rayDJ.AbdNas ปีที่แล้ว +27

    A little PSA for those watching this video, I have come across cards and have purchased cards from systems that obviously made no use of proper anti sag brackets. No matter how much you tighten the pci-e bracket, there is always a lot of force acting on the weakest point of the pcb closest to the pci-e bracket, the only way to fully eliminate this problem is by supporting the card on the pci-e power corner, there a multitude of ways you can do this, heck if you can't afford a gpu STAND, I've in the past used lego and a small piece of foam (to prevent scratches on the gpu) to temporarily keep the gpu supported while I was waiting for my gpu stand to arrive.
    Now as to why you wouldn't want to use a sag bracket supported by the back of the case, this bracket s only really effective if the case is made from high quality, thick metal, what usually happens is the support stand bends the case metal and sags with the gpu, supporting the vertical sag using a vertical stand therefore makes far more sense than supporting vertical sag with a horizontal bracket.
    This was a bit of a mouthful but I hope it makes sense.

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue ปีที่แล้ว

      gpu sag it needs a pull up bra🤣🤣🤣

  • @rand0mtv660
    @rand0mtv660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On an older build I had, I just tied butchers twine to the top of the case and looped it over some part of the gpu at the front and that fixed it for me. Pulled the card right back up and looked unique really.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, but I used fishing line attached to the plug of the power cable.

  • @zackdl
    @zackdl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm loving these daily jaytober uploads, Jay. If only it were like this every month!

  • @xxnike0629xx
    @xxnike0629xx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Definitely an oversight by these GPU manufacturers.

  • @spiderliliez
    @spiderliliez ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jay always says, "I digress". I never really use that expression. I love it.

  • @TooTurntAdam
    @TooTurntAdam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Just did this with my 3080 and it worked! Thanks for this simple and easy fix - was driving me crazy since I installed the new card.

    • @thenaberius6081
      @thenaberius6081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its really nice If the case is fully black you wont even see the brackets.

  • @dreamboatcap
    @dreamboatcap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For those of you who value their time like me, solution starts at 9:00

  • @DexMaster881
    @DexMaster881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    There's a Flaw with your Sag to place Theory Jay.
    Some cards will flex enough to allow Thermal pads to separate from contact points .
    Best solution I found is Supporting the furthest corner of the card. It can be done in many ways even with a Pen case cut to length if you don't care about looks.
    Its kind of a Poor mans solution equal to Case support you have there.
    But actually more rigid than the case support.

    • @churblefurbles
      @churblefurbles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      lego bricks

    • @thetableflip
      @thetableflip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the best and the most effective solution. Stacking brackets as shown in the video will eliminate some flex but not all of it.

    • @Nachoscrosshair
      @Nachoscrosshair 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cut a 20 oz bottle in half lol to use it as a kickstand for my asus tuf 3070 ti lol. It works until I can get something else.

    • @Haren94
      @Haren94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've cut a 2 by 9 cm piece of cardboard and placed it under the furthest corner of the GPU. I've designed a custom support than I plan to 3d print, but it's coming in the future.

    • @AzzySunfire
      @AzzySunfire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Haren94 Not worried about heat damage if using cardboard? Or if using metal, short circuits. What material would be best? Ceramic?

  • @priveaussi6830
    @priveaussi6830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just added a little 'stand' /'pushup bar' on the end of the card as support.... boom, works

  • @samiraperi467
    @samiraperi467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I have a solution. Use a case that orients the mobo horizontally.

    • @deminybs
      @deminybs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mount everything on the wall

    • @IIARROWS
      @IIARROWS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what I do XD

    • @kyle123452011
      @kyle123452011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      io on the top agreed. NO SAG ISSUES!!!

    • @DapperProf
      @DapperProf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm gonna hire a few homeless people to hold it up for me on shifts.

    • @wossle73
      @wossle73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      YEAH! but where's ALL the RBG gonna show off? LOL

  • @s1gne
    @s1gne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I just finished a reverse ATX build, the USB-C cable is an excellent sag prevention for my Gigabyte Aorus 2070Super 8G :D
    It's as it was build for it.

  • @mini-_
    @mini-_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was afraid the video would just be "get an APU and sell your GPU to fix the sag fully"

  • @medievalan6285
    @medievalan6285 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jay truly is a master at prolonging a video

  • @akiraic
    @akiraic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    even better solution: just put some adesivo rubber pads instead of more brackets. I got some of those cheap, transparent silicon anti-impact pads that you usually use for walls (so the door or handle don't hit it). Worked PERFECTLY.

    • @Newt211
      @Newt211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Can you post a link by chance? I am not sure what you are talking about.

    • @Me547
      @Me547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Genius! *starts pawing through the junk drawer*

    • @Sidkain
      @Sidkain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rubber is much better in my opinion too. When you modify metal inside a PC case, there's always a chance of creating some type of short. Overkill, I know, but yes, "I'm saying there's a chance". Plus - sound/vibration dampening!

  • @mrz3ta574
    @mrz3ta574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Shake it more than twice, your playing with it" had me rollin🤣

  • @Teknickel_ftw
    @Teknickel_ftw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of the things that I love with my 6990 was the PCB sandwiched between a back plate and a mid plate and then mounted to the pcie bracket mid the card not sag whatsoever. It is a much better design than any card made today.

    • @SuperBasslover1
      @SuperBasslover1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah same with the 7990 i had. i miss that card soo much! legit best card i have ever had

  • @xxmeanyheadxx
    @xxmeanyheadxx ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You would think after a couple decades of GPUs getting bigger and heavier someone would switch up the way motherboards are built. vertical gpu mount has always been the most attractive option for me, if looks count.

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue ปีที่แล้ว

      meh it's not a motherboard issue it's a gpu issue think man think!!!!!

    • @xxmeanyheadxx
      @xxmeanyheadxx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaraMorgan-ym6ue but they look like big spaceships and it's kewl

  • @MrAWESOMElol2
    @MrAWESOMElol2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I usually just route the PCIE powercable with enough slack in the front of the case that it acts like a sag bracket when you put the side panel on. With a PSU shroud on the bottom and the panel pushing the cable inward and up it supports the card nicely.

    • @zamfielis
      @zamfielis ปีที่แล้ว

      but what happen if i use my pc open...

    • @MrAWESOMElol2
      @MrAWESOMElol2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zamfielis thats not smart to begin with

  • @alexandervanderaarobinson757
    @alexandervanderaarobinson757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am embarrassed I didn't think of this on my own sooner. Thank you so much! I had trouble getting 3 stacked but knew if I only put 2 it wouldn't be thick enough so I had to widen the screw hole a bit.

  • @draggonhedd
    @draggonhedd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    0:57 motherboard screw is missing by the PCIE slot, that will absolutely cause your card to sag more than it would normally as well. I've seen motherboards flex REAL bad in that spot.

    • @RubyRoks
      @RubyRoks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A lot of cases have pegs there rather than a standoff. That might be why it's not screwed in.

    • @StatsGam4er
      @StatsGam4er 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, its a guide that goes in the hole. Can't screw in the middle hole mate.

    • @Dreyden12274
      @Dreyden12274 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lots of cases don't support a screw in that slot since it's raised and has a post that comes through that hole to help with mounting the motherboard

    • @griind
      @griind 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      On most cases nowadays use a peg on a standoff instead of a normal screw in the middle to help guide the motherboard into place when building the PC, so it's supposed to be missing a screw there.

    • @draggonhedd
      @draggonhedd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RubyRoks Man i haven't seen that since my pentium 2 days. They really doing that again?

  • @cainento
    @cainento 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the guy who added the "filler" on sponsor block: Thank you!
    I even thought it was a mistake haha

  • @Joern8910
    @Joern8910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Easy fix and a great way to brick your motherboard by shorting it out... when you do this please check the clearance or trim it further so it doesn't touch the motherboard or is even close to it, since the stack can move during transport.

    • @88KaYzo18
      @88KaYzo18 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are actually so stupid, please learn how motherboards and electricity works before trying to warn us all

  • @Luchingador
    @Luchingador 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally no more sag for all these GPUs I have

  • @PepperLion
    @PepperLion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Me: *Gently picks up my card I spent hundreds of dollars on so as to not break it* I hope my static doesn't shock it!
    Jay: GO LONG! *Throws across the room*

  • @NeuroPulse
    @NeuroPulse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jay, I keep coming back to your channel. You have the best tips!

  • @LaserTurtle
    @LaserTurtle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the gundam edition case literally has a holder on the right side (those two vertical pipes) for gpu sag

    • @derpizzadieb
      @derpizzadieb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats what he told in the video

    • @myulky
      @myulky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes but do other cases have it? Don't think so

  • @Bigred7642
    @Bigred7642 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Skip to 9:41

  • @TheFrank1242_Offline
    @TheFrank1242_Offline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wouldn't this make the point of gravity shift more centered to the PCI x16 channel itself though. Which would add more stress to the MB PCI x16. I feel like Industry should have not taken the short straw by using gaming styles on a card problem. That could be solved with engineering they already used in industry for heavier cards. Just by adding second shoe holder or extender bracket model past 10## series.

    • @JohnDoeWasntTaken
      @JohnDoeWasntTaken ปีที่แล้ว

      No, it just makes the card supported the same way as GPUs always have been, this is a new issue with 30 series. The case bracket will take all of the weight this way. I don't see how people are interpreting this as putting more weight on the PCI slot when without this mod the PCI slot is literally taking the majority of the weight until the cooler makes contact with the case bracket.

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dunno about first 10 minutes of the video, but the last four and half were pretty useful.
    Thank you!