KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why
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- KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why
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00:00 Intro
00:53 KLM’s background
02:54 First reason
04:30 Second reason
05:22 Third reason
06:52 Opportunity for Boeing?
08:42 Concluding
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#fligavia #boeing #airbus #aviation #a350
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KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why
The national airline of the Netherlands - KLM was founded in 19 19, and is the oldest airline on earth. The airline has a long history dating back to World War 2, the post-war period and the jet aircraft boom. Until now, this is still an important bridge connecting Europe with other regions of the world. This delicious piece of cake always makes both Boeing and Airbus compete to bring the plane into KLM's fleet.
KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why
And until now, Boeing has absolutely dominated almost the entire airline fleet. As a result, when news broke that KLM wanted to upgrade its long-haul fleet, people believed they would continue to choose Boeing aircraft, specifically the 7 8 7. But surprisingly they decided to choose Airbus A3 50 instead. So what's going on? Why does KLM build its future fleet based on Airbus? Let’s find out!
KLM’s background
KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why
First about the history of KLM, as mentioned above The airline was founded in 19 19 and in 2004 KLM joined SkyTeam, an international airline alliance. The same year, the airline was acquired by Air France to create Air France - KLM, one of the world’s largest air carriers. But it is different from some other recent airline mergers such as those of two US airlines, United Continental and Delta Northwest.
Great move! The Airbus A350 is absolutely stunning in every aspect. Advanced technology, fuel efficiency, spacious cabin, and comfortable passenger experience. Well done!
Love that AI narrator!
Said no one ever.
It used to be if it ain’t Boeing I ain’t going! It’s now if it’s Boeing I ain’t going!!!
You know, Ive heard about those quality control issues with the Boeing 787. Personally, Id rather opt for the Airbus A350 any day for peace of mind.
I think the future of commercial airliner is Airbus and not Boeing, and KLM made a great decision in the long run.
Boeing is in such a sad state. They have lost their reputation hard earned over decades of making great products. All of the McDonnell Douglas management and its philosophy needs to be exorcised out of Boeing. Hopefully, it is not too late.
I agree with u, they need to take action to change in the future
You have no idea what you are talking about name one person from MD in Boeing management. The merger was 27 years ago. And if the merger was so MD influenced why were MD airplanes killed off in favor of Boeing.
The 787 is not a A350 competition it’s a A330 sized aircraft. The 787 is a 767 replacement.
Airbus isn’t bringing new innovations to the market like Boeing they Introduced one new aircraft in the last 20 years. Everything else was re engined jets
This is being over blown on TH-cam because people like this guy need stories to write about.
Without ever spending one day working in aviation.
It’s not a sad story… Boeing earned it themselves by cutting cost and putting money in front of safety. The are digging themselves in their own hole. Real story from a 737-800 pilot:
The 737 was an amazing aircraft in the 60s, but Boeing turned it into a beast by always increasing fuselage length and putting larger engines that don’t even fit under the wings. On the 900 variant, if you rotate with a speed of more than 2*/sec, you are having a tails strike…
@@MiturBinEsdertyWait. 1 in the last 20 years? The A380’s first flight is in 2005, and the A350 newer than it. That makes 2. Boeing on the other hand has only the 787. Am I missing something?
@@sirisobhakya Ok goof 19 years if I take your date of first flight not when the A380 was announced developed and built. And they lost over 20 billion on that project. It was the largest amount lost on an aircraft in aviation history. And I wasn’t saying that Boeing had more new aircraft introduced. You are missing something INTELLIGENCE.
“KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why” because the a350 is genuinely better🗿
Neither is “better” that up to opinion
@@mohwybar5832 point being nowadays more airlines hold the opinion the A350 is better
@GBOAC airlines don’t hold opinion. I’m pretty sure the 787 has more operators than a 350
A350 masterpiece !!! everything is better in Airbus, safety of course too !!!!!
KLM has been the most loyal Boeing customer. The fact that the dutch carrier is switching its preferences to the european manufacturer goes beyond the price/technical differences between the two aircrafts. Boeing is a company not to be trusted anymore and a serious airline cannot afford to put its business at risk because of it. Well done KLM!
This loyal Boeing customer - really??? One that flew the DC8, DC9, DC10, MD11, A310 and still flies the A330
@@colinbrown9549193 Boeing aircraft versus 80 DC/MD and 22 Airbus aircraft. (Current and past) I’d say they used to be pretty loyal to Boeing.
@@colinbrown9549 yes my friend, in its recent history KLM proudly stated to have an all Boeing fleet introducing its firs A330 in 2012 only. True that in the past they made use of different manufacturers as well
@@d8889 KLM have been operating A330's from 2005 to this day, they operated DC10's and MD11's from the early 70's to 2014 a and DC8's and DC9's from the 60;s tomnthe 80's, I'm not sure KLM have ever been a Boeing only customer
@@colinbrown9549Probably my english is not good enough to explain myself. All I wanted to say is that KLM has in modern times had a privileged relationship with Boeing. I am aware that it has had aircraft produced by other manufacturers in its fleet. Personally I miss the old MD11s!
Being is receiving karma from all the whistle blowers they've made dissappear
You forgot to mention that KLM is also transitioning from the 737NG to the A321Neo. Pilot commonality between Airbus types is much better than between Boeing types.
Thanks for reminding me, Paul
Boeing was not obviously paying attention to each plane manufactured! It’s a shame, the board of directors need to take responsibility here as well. They need a major overhaul and the unions need to step up as well, their personnel and Boeing management at the floor level have created chaos for themselves. Airbus is being attentive and keeps on building!!!
Their is an interesting fact that no one mentions and no one seems to get, especially Americans. Holland and Canada are unofficially and officially very close, as close as nation states can be. This comes from the liberation of Holland by Canadian Soldiers in WW2 and the Dutch Royal Family living in Ottawa during World War 2. Queen Beatrix attended Primary School in Canada and her sister Princes Margaret was born in Ottawa in 1943. While the Dutch Government may have refrained from comment no doubt they noticed when Boeing attempted to kill the Bombardier C Series and drive Bombardier into bankruptcy . It was Airbus, not Boeing, that eventually supported the C Series now called the Airbus A-220 100 & 300. People in both America and Europe should note that schoolchildren in Holland still look after the graves of Canadian Soldiers and large immigration to Canada from Holland followed World War 2. A whole lot of factors likely influence the decision for KLM to prefer a European builder. Boeing's inferior aircraft construction and quality control are but one factor to be considered. At this time Boeing is simply throwing together aircraft in an effort to reduce costs. Now the world knows this!
Add to the A350's advantages is the fact that it is simply a quieter and nicer plane to fly on.
best airliner currently in service.
It's also more spacious..
Yep, on a 777 I always use earplugs because of the a/c noise level inside. It's ridiculous.
The 787 absolutely is not going anywhere, nor is KL saying goodbye to it. The 787 competes with the A330/neo, not the A350. KL has 772 and 773 in their fleets, and those will need to be replaced eventually. And that's where the A350 comes in. The A359 competes with the 772/778 and the A3510 competes with the 773/779.
With the 778/779 so incredibly delayed (and who knows if there may be more), and because of all the other advantages highlighted in the video regarding the A350 series, it makes sense to go with the A350. The 787-10 is at best a 772 replacement, and as said in the video, its range is very lacking. Boeing needs to get an -ER version to compete, although with all the problems at the company at the moment designing an ER variant is not exactly priority. They need to go back to making safe planes, period.
I wouldn't be surprised if KL makes a top up order for the 787, particularly the -9. I also wouldn't be surprised if they get more A350s, both the -900 and -1000. But anyway, the 787 will continue to be a mainstay and workhorse in the KL fleet.
Plus the wings probably won't fall off the airbus A350. 😅
I'm surprised this wasn't the main point. Buying planes from a company without a culture of safety is bad move.
Dumb is as dumb does, period.
"Boeing has worked hard to fix these problems". Utter nonsense. The ultimate source of Boeings problems is a poor culture and a lack of understanding of the costs of poor quality. Nothing Boeing has done recently shows any appriciation of the underlying source of its problems, which still remain unaddressed.
The best way to get boeing addressing those problems is to allow the US flag carriers to fly airbus planes. Boeing should like this idea, as it is an embodiment of “diversity, equity and inclusion”, which is very high on the list of boeing priorities :)
@@sergeyyatskevitch3617 They do fly Airbus aircraft. I just flew on one with American.
KLM is a wonderful airliner, good and intelligent staff at all levels. You'll notice it if you fly with them.
As a Dutch citizen and passenger, I’m very happy with the KLM switch to Airbus. I’ve flown quite a bit around the world with both brands and I find Airbus simply to be the better and more comfortable plane to travel in. So job well done for our KLM.
Boeing's quality contirol leaves much to be desire.
I would also avoid Boeing at this time. You can’t trust the safety of the 787!
After the battery issues 10 years ago they have had a solid record. No hull losses or accidents with fatalities. Dispatch reliability right up there with the B777 and A380. Having said that I'd prefer to travel in one made at the Everett plant rather than the South Carolina plant...
@@brentsummers7377 You aren’t keeping up with the whistleblowers and continued quality issues! Boeing seems to be trying to SILENCE THEM PERMANENTLY 😮!!!
The 787 is the statistically safest plane ever made. 0 fatalities across more flights than any other 0-fatalities airliner. Also there isn’t any evidence that Boeing murdered any whistleblower
That is not right. The A350 replaces the 772 and the A330 versions.
KLM made a good decision. In the last four years things have changed: that is, maybe passengers are safer flying in a A350. And it is made nearby as well.
If its Boeing im not going. I value my safety.
Boeing certainly have their problems but you are not assessing risk in a cogent manner. Take Southwest Airlines for example. They have approx. 4,000 flights PER DAY on an all Boeing fleet. They have never had a hull loss in 52 years. Similarly, Ryanair operates approx. 1,800 flights PER DAY on an all Boeing fleet and have also had zero hull losses. If you are that risk averse, you probably shouldn't leave your house.
Clickbait title implies KLM is disposing of their 787s which is not correct. The 787-10 was never designed to have equivalent range to the 787-9 or A350. It's primarly intended for shorter routes which need higher capacity.
Boeing is an amazing company with a remarkable legacy, it's really unfortunate so see the current situation they are in. I believe that everybody would benefit from a healthy Boeing able to keep pushing the envelope to make flying more sustainable while maintaining a top notch safety track record. This being said, the current commercial success of Airbus is well deserved.
Honestly, the 787 will stay with KLM for at least 10 years, as the huge A350 order (the majority) is destined for Air France. Air France plans to give the 10 787-9s to KLM. And I don't know if we'll see a 777x in the fleet as many airlines are putting their orders on hold because of the recent problems with Boeing. Also, there's a lot of criticism of Boeing in the French media, I think a lot of French people think Boeing is crap even though they've made some very good planes (the 777 has a long history in the Air France fleet). Just wait and see
@@ronmurray7349 btw I know klm is a long client of boeing, but air france has always buy boeing due to the French government for diplomacy with USA reason. But since Ben Smith became CEO and brought good results and profit for AFRKLM, + ecological measure in EU. It's natural that we choose EU fuel efficient aircrafts. And AF got a lot of troubles with their 787-9. When I say wait and see, I'm waiting for the 777x to see what boeing reserves us.
French media always criticizing Boeing. But like airbus is French so it makes sense
You’re misinforming people into thinking KLM don’t already have a TON of 787s. So it’s not like they’re choosing the a350 over it, it’s just an addition
Boeing is in such disarray right now that the A350s are a way better choice for KLM. They also can use the A350s with its longest flights. I wish American or United kept their A350s but they instead took the 787
yep I agree with you
The A350 is by far the best plane I've been on in terms of comfort
I agree.I flew Last year on Air France Paris-Osaka and later n BA Vancouver-LHR. Both really great experiences. I love the A350.
Of course, as with any plane, that depends on the airline and the seat configuration. I doubt that you'd find an A350 of French Bee (up to 480 seats on the A350-1000!) or Air Caraïbes (almost the same) very comfortable. But the lower cabin altitude might still make a difference on a very long flight, at least compared to another "sardine can" configuration on a different model.
@@goytabr let’s leave the world of low cost airlines aside :)
can`t wait to see an A350 in KLM colors
I think European carriers should support European manufacturers. Both Holland and France build components of Airbus planes, so they help to keep their nationals in work. Why send all those Euros to the USA?
a lot of airbus components are made from US, that's why airbus planes are also considered a US airplane.
BA fly’s 787’s on its longest route London to Santiago Chile with no problem!
Exactly, and Qantas does the same with the 787-9 , flying well past it's stated range with ease..
Another AB fanboy infomercial!!
As long as they say goodbye to the decades old 777s, they are falling apart and pretty uncomfortable on long flights.
you're right
As a passenger safety and trust is important and Boeing is no longer a favourite
Thank God! KLM has finally seen the light…..
exactly, God bless you
It looks like this video and its content delivered by AI. The text just doent make sense and detached from each other.
A350 will replace the A330's and older B777's. That's how it is
AI narration has come far. Still don't like it tho
He has copied this from another channel and recreates the audio with Ai.
It’s copied from Coby Explanes.
it's horrible
Comparing the range of the 787 -10 vs.airbus ,yet blatantly omits any comparison to the -9, which offers outstanding economics and range !!
Another AB troll video.
thanks for your feedback
True to a certain extent, but not really an AB troll video because of other vids I have seen, he is just missing some key facts. The 787 is in a class of its own and was the original game changer. The A350XWB wad an answer to the 777 domination. KLM just recently received new 787-10's. The A350 is a 777 replacement and a supplement to the 787. There would be NO A350 if there was no 787. The original A350 id now nothing more than the A330NEO.
If it’s a Boeing, Iam not going
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Hahahaha
Safety and Quality too.
They really don’t care about that
I would never have thought it's possible, that Boeing would fall so brutally behind Airbus. But the facts mentioned, if they are correct, speak for themselves.
Too all not really watching the video and only bashing around in the comments: the KLM 787s won't go anywhere anytime soon, there are even some open deliveries. Also theres a good chance that later on Air France and KLM will operate the 777-9.
Comforting for boeing that there is no choice. Only selling argument that american shit has left
Boeing needs to replace the bankers and bean counters on its board of directors with actual aeronautical engineers. Back the way it started and built itself and its reputation. It’s not too late.
Another clickbait vid..
The 787 isn't going away anytime soon in the KLM fleet..
The do operate the 787 9 Einstein...
Plus the 787-10. Airbus Fanboys.
remember when the saying went "if it is not Boeing I am not going", now its all the way around, I came back from south America in a 737 max 8, I was nervous.
KLM was a Douglas airline for most of its existence, not boeing.
The Good Choice. In my humble opinion the A-350 is the best plane in the sky. I think the 787 pales by comparison. I once flew Emirates on an early 787-800 and we landed in Dubai. Now I don't know if they have a badly corrugated airstrip there, but I thought the thing was going to shake itself to pieces on landing...Unbelievable...really..!! Like a bucket of bolts.
Just compare an old 747 to a 777 in regards the handling of turbulence. I been on over half a dozen flights on the 747 & never been bounced about, while it’s happened every time I’ve been on the 777
@@mickvonbornemann3824 Amazingly I had the same experience, super smooth with little turbulence on the 747 but quite a lot on the 777 and A350. Of course turbulence is caused by outside elements, but when it is consistent (at least 10 times on each type), I cannot help thinking the designs play some role here.
Air France is operating Boeing aircrafts for up to 60% of its long haul fleet. Including 10 787 Dreamliner. Saying AF is an Airbus operator and KLM a Boeing operator is not accurate
Might Boeing's loss of engineering ability and their pathetic quality might have influenced this
might!
might.
Also take into accounts all the problems Boeing has run into when they shifted the main focus to the stock market instead of the engineers. It will take many years to correct all the problems. Buying Boeing aircraft today is a risky sport.
You’re absolutely right!
This could be 1.5min video
Can't wait to see the A350 in the beautiful blue KLM delivery❤❤
same here!!!
KLM’s planes are always so chic. They are so beautiful. Their gorgeous design and that beautiful color ❤
The colour is truly beautiful
I'd suggest not flying on one of their older 737-900s, they are pretty shabby! and no first class!
Could well be KLM believe the A350 has a safer record, which would be everything for me. I will not fly Boeing.
To be honest!
1. Both South America and South Africa are within the range of the 787-10. Maybe not Amsterdam-Santiago nonstop, but that's currently flown with a stop in Buenos Aires (on a 787-9) anyway. The Far East with the current detours over South Asia or Alaska is a good reason to skip the 787-10, yes, but not South America and South Africa.
2. Both KLM and Air France ALREADY have large fleets of 787s (in the case of KLM, including the 787-10), not to mention even larger fleets of older 777s. What will happen to those planes in the mid- to long-term? Will they be passed on or retained along the new A350s? Plus, even the smaller A350-900 is significantly larger than the 787-9 and caters to a different market. These are questions that the video didn't approach and should have.
Wish a *_real_* person narrated, not this robot
thanks for your feedback, we'll use real voice soon
Why anyone in their right mind would buy Boeing is a mystery
It’s actually smart except for the 737 max. Because you can convert almost every Boeing model into a freighter. Can’t do it with airbus.
@@nicofink5678 Uhm A321 and A320 have a freighter variation, A350 has a freighter variation, A300 has a freighter variation and the A330 has a freighter variation those are the ones that can be ordered from the factory or converted.
You are talking about Alaska Airlines, Ryanair, American Airlines? They decided to go all Boeing, mostly because of financial reasons and are reaping the sour fruits from that imbalanced decision.
They don't have to retrain pilots, no new groundengineers necessary, and they get a big discount for large orders.
It is fallacy to buy Boeing as they circle the drain.
Because their planes are right for their needs and very safe
Fly safe fly Airbus...
AIRBUS ✈️✈️✈️
Recently I flew the KLM 787 from Costa Rica to the Netherlands, I love KLM crews and service , but I found the 787 VERY uncomfortable and noisy.
thanks for sharing your experience!
Keep in mind that, while Boeing recommends various interior arrangements, the airline determines that. "Uncomfortable and noisy" is what an airline may pick to cram more people in and save money. That's why some people love flying in a 787 and some hate it. Blame the airline not Boeing.
The real reason is the Europe finally started prioritizing their own interests than USA.
Its inaccurate to say Russia closed its airspace to International airlines. Many airlines still fly though Russian airspace. Only nations that have banned Russian airliners have faced reciprocal bans.
Although it is not being discussed, Boeing made a major blunder moving much of its assembly to Charleston, SC. They failed to understand the cultural issues of the region and went for the lowest labor cost. In general manufacturing in the U.S. is moving to the Southeast because the lower living costs and the lack of unions make labor costs less. That's one reason for Boeing's move away from Seattle.
-But the South is not culturally uniform. Over a century and a half after emancipation, the effects of slavery still linger. In some regions slavery destroyed the work ethic for both whites and blacks. Working hard was what slaves did. That's primarily in a region where flat land and a fertile black soil called the Black Belt meant cotton grew well.
-Other regions of the South, primarily those with hilly land and poor soil were populated with small independent farmers who had to work hard to survive. There the work ethic was strong along with a Scot-Irish independence. If you treated someone well, they treated you well. If you treated them badly, they responded accordingly.
-Boeing's blunder was all too obvious to those who know the South. It went to Charleston, SC because labor costs there were low. It failed to realize that those costs were low because the poor work ethic made locating their unappealing to savvy companies. Charleston lies in the heart of the Black Belt and was major center for selling slaves.
-Boeing could have located those new plants in Huntsville, AL where it owned over 400 acres next to the airport. The area is so technical astute it built the huge Saturn V that put NASA on the moon. But the presence of a well-education population with a solid work ethic meant labor costs would be much higher. That Boeing management hated. As we have seen in other areas, maximizing profits mattered above all else.
-Boeing chose to go cheap and is now paying a price for that blunder. It is struggling to instill a work ethnic in a population that, white and black, has lacked one for two centuries and more. In endures because those who want to work hard and get ahead get frustrated with such a culture and move elsewhere.
_You can read more about this in the Wikipedia article "Black Belt in the American South."_
AI! Grrrrr I can’t stand this AI voice scripts. Terrible
If It’s Boeing,I’m not going. Good decision of KLM !
Sorry can't follow as the AI narration is horrendous!
uh350
@MrSiwilks that too is a copy paste of another video that was uploaded in Oct,2023
th-cam.com/video/36tPQN38U7E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Os9UcaXf3z2pDFBX
They will still operatie the 787, the 777-200 and the a330 will make place for the a350
I flew business on a 787. It was lovely though not as good as an A380.
yeah thanks for sharing your experience
Boeing is a mess when compared with Airbus. In every aspect. Just look at the cockpit differences
Boeing builds the best airplanes (simplistic) for pilots and Airbus builds the best airplanes for passengers (comfortable & quiet.)
Very bad robot voice
thank you for the feedback
A350 Is The Best For KLM Air France
Where do you come up with these lies????? KLM recent got 787-10's and have no plans to get rid of those or their 787-9's.
Because the fail to check the facts.
No lies. KLM actually ordered 350's.
@@Dirk-van-den-Bergthey did but not to replace the 787.
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg Anyone who is a true aviation fan already knows this. What the OP is saying is in fact lies....... We knew KLM was ordering A350's years ago. They are NOT to replace the 787.... They are to supplement the 787. The A350 is a 777 replacement. Their 787's tap a whole different market....
To be honest the 787 does not compete with the A350. They're in completely different categories. The 777X competes head to head with the A350 and the 787 competes directly with the A330neo.
True.
The 787-10 does compete with the a350 however in terms of size but in terms of range, the a321 is a better comparison.
@@XWXW-lk4jf Agreed completely. I thoughts of the A321XLR but decided not to muddy the waters. But now that you've mentioned it, you're spot on. There's a slight overlap between the A350-800 and the 787-10. At the bottom end with the 787-8 she comes up against the A321-XLR. It kind of hurts the Dreamliner in a category of its own that it gets beaten on, on every level by the competition. as the Airbuses deliver so much more.
In the early to mid 1990's, Russian airspace was closed. I remember flyinĝ from Hong Kong to London. It over 14 hours. It has just gone back to those times.
Boeing appears to be in trouble
So this choice is somewhat logical in more ways than one
Therefore the scene is awkward with losing such a big contract…
One presumes the situation will remain fluid as new factors emerge… but Airbus seems to be ahead, herein, for the moment
We live in interesting times as Russia being at war also complicates air travel routes tremendously…
The saga continues❗️
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How do you figure that right now there are more orders for the 787 than the 350 the video said that was one of the factors. Also American and United just put in multi billion dollar orders.. Now the 737 maybe seeing the end of the line but boeing is going strong. I personally think their biggest mistake was not designing a whole new aircraft instead they decide to make the maxes which ends up killing em.
The 787-9 has all the range any airline needs as Qantas has shown. Last time I checked Capetown & Johannesburg are 11 hours from northern Europe well within the range of a 787-10. Buenos Aires and Santiago do require a 14 hour plane though. KLM purchased the A350 because it seems AF & KLM now have common fleets strategies, KLM is also getting A321neos.
thanks for sharing
Amazed how safety plays such a small
Part in the process. I personally only fly airbus carriers.
Big shout-out to Boeing's top management and their well-deserved bonuses.
So KLM was founded in 1919. Apparently that’s really important because they repeatedly mentioned it. I’m not sure why because Airbus weren’t around then.
Embraer needs to make bigger planes now😄
Yes, it is wise to abandon Boeing for multiple reasons.
They placed an airbus order. They aren’t abandoning Boeing any time soon
I have flown in both AF AB350 and KLM B787 from Latin America to Paris y Amsterdam, respectively.
B787's cabin felt a little more comfortable but seeing the range, AB350 is the way to go!
Strategically, Europe's airlines should use ABs., and PLEASE, do not let Trump get his hands on an AB 🤪
The competition for A350 is 77X not 787-10, especially for the range and capacity
Te 350 will compliment the 787. KLM needs to replace their aging 330's and 727-200ER's and the 777X is not ready for a LONG TIME!
Boeing doesn’t care… where you going when Airbus is sold out? Boeing doesn’t care if they’re #2 because there is only 2. Plus the A350 is an amazing aircraft. Why buy junk if you don’t have to?
De Havilland Canada: what about meeeeee
Mitsubishi/Bombardier/Canadair: what about meeeeeee
Cessna: You dumbass
Beech: wow
Avro:really?
Hablas huevadas
The 787 isn't a competitor to the a350... The 777x is...
The 787 NightmareLiner is merely a bad successor to the 767-300er, and to smaller a330's
I have flown on the 787 many tines the BATTs (GM helped 😝) scare me Fire over the Ice Cap !!!!!!!
you have no idea! take your pills and get back to sleep!
I like how you called it NightmareLiner
I think it is clear why KLM chose the A350 over the B787. Better built, more economical, can reach destinations that are 30% farther away and is cheaper to buy and operate. By not buying 50%/50% Airbus and Boing they had a much bigger bulk order and I am sure they got the right price.
If boeing have failed to deliver & airbus can deliver a suitable replacement.
But the Boeing era wont be forgotten. Most certainly not KL785...
As a passenger, I prefer the A-350
Yep, same as me
I flew on one yesterday.
Stay safe folks. Fly Airbus👍
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Airbus A350 is far more technological and safer! Good move
Agree!
Nice Geweldig. Boeing is kapot aan het gaan door hun schandalen met betrekking tot hun productie en technisch overzicht. De 737MAX en 787 Dreamliner zijn gevaarlijke waardeloze vliegtuigen waar ik nooit in wil zitten
The B787-10 range is a lot less than the 787-8 and 787-9. Maybe perfect for US carriers flying to Europe but could not fly the trans-pacific routes to Australia.
Here, the people saying that Boeing worked hard for their reputation… no they didn’t (well, 2015-now they obviously didn’t, that really wasn’t a brilliant thing), maybe that’s the reason why their reputation is so bad. They preferred quick money to the safety of their aircraft. And that just doesn’t work at all. Boeing is surely capable of getting rid of this bad reputation, but the company should see this as a warning that they shouldn’t ever again neglect the safety of their aircraft. Something like that can cost the company dearly
Yes I agree.
Good for KLM. Boeing is such a mess at the moment.
thank you for the feedback!
@@FLIGAVIA You're welcome. This channel should get some care from the algorithm :-D
Flew both boeing and airbus airplanes. Passenger comfort in Airbus is way above that one in boeing.
How can that be? Aren't they the same interior furnishings manufacturers?
@@rael5469 Passgier comfort is not just about the seats you sit in or the in-flight entertainment. It includes the humidity in the cabin, the regulation of the air pressure, the sound insulation, the air distribution of the heating, etc. And everything together influences the comfort of the passengers. I'm not an Airbus or Boeing fanboy and I don't care which plane I'm on. All in all, however, I too have noticed that Airbus, especially the A350 and A380, are ahead in terms of comfort on flights. And there is also a whole range of manufacturers for the seating etc., so there are big differences there too.
@@gerhardma4687 Oh I totally get everything you say here. I get it. But the 787 also has a lower altitude and humidity control.
The 777 has waterfalls in the cabin. Fact. I once rode on a 777 and as they rotated for takeoff a ton of water came down on me from the ceiling. Nothing I could do.....we were seat belted in during takeoff. ;)
Excellent choice: Airbus
I like the channel, but I’m getting sick of the computer narration
thanks for your feedback, we'll use real voice soon