KEY NOTE PKA Modern Guns WILL WORK IN SPACE Bullets carry their own oxidising agent in the explosive of the cartridge (which is sealed, anyway) so there's no need for atmospheric oxygen to ignite the propellant.
and they will cycle just fine... at least until the oil evaporates and any unprotected metals weld themselves together. But it would be very easy to design a gun that reliably cycles
Regular firearms work in space it’s just if floating the energy would push you back, imagine shooting a shotgun but you spin around like a mad man when fired
Bow and arrow is actually a pretty good zero G weapon. There is technically recoil, but the impulse is spread out over a longer distance than a firearm. During space combat all you really have to do is poke a hole in your target's space suit and arrows are surprisingly good at penetrating things like Kevlar or chainmail.
Nathan Witus it’s more based on the weight of the projectile along with velocity of the projectile, a 300 gram arrow shot at 200fps would push you back more than a 100 gram arrow at the same speed, it’s just weird sciency math
@@masterplanet420 That is true, but it would be a slow steady push compared to the sudden shock of a 12ga shotgun for example. Arrows accelerate very slowly compared to bullets and reach much lower overall speeds. Now, an arrow has a much greater mass than a bullet but typically has less total kinetic energy. Energy equals mass times acceleration squared A 450 grain arrow accelerating to 275 fps for one second will have an arbitrary energy of 34,031,250 A 125 grain bullet accelerating to 1100 fps for one second will have an arbitrary energy of 151,250,000 In my extremely rough calculations an average 9mm bullet has about 5 times the total kinetic energy of an arrow fit for hunting large game like elk. Keep in mind in my (once again extremely rough) calculation it took the 125 grain projectile a *whole second* to accelerate to its peak speed of 1100fps. Arrows are able to achieve greater levels of penetration than bullets that have greater total kinetic energy due to a physical property known as "ballistic density" Essentially as a long skinny projectile contacts the target the whole mass of the projectile behind the tip continues its momentum and effectively pushes the tip through. Recoil impulse is based on the acceleration of the projectile more than its mass, especially when considering zero G conditions
Think the line of space is made by how many particles of atmosphere per million there are. Once it’s below a certain amount of atmospheric particles it’s considered space. This year they said there is earth atmosphere particles past the moon.
I was wondering if it would be ppm or atoms per volume. Ppm would be hard because there is so little matter in the near vacuum of space. But it would give an idea of the percentage of matter that is technically Earths atmosphere vs something else.
About the space thing, you have to be moving at a speed relative to your altitude. i.e. the lower the altitude the faster you need to move to stay in an orbit. if you go strait up you will just free fall back because of earths gravity being the strongest force that is being applied.
lol Buzz Aldrin probably isn't the best example for a hick astronaut. He got his undergrad in mechanical engineering, served as a fighter pilot and got his master's in astronautics. For his master's thesis, he invented a technique for orbital rendezvous.
So there will probably not be a BUNCH of people in Space at one time. Most folks will be on the ground. Air Force folks wear weird camo. Pilots wear flight suits. So...I’m guessing they don’t need to look like extras on Austin Powers (James Bond).
@@megastoejoe It wont get any dirtier in space than it does on earth. Probably less so since you dont have particulate in the air or dirt/mud to worry about
@@nat040496 You'd have to change the composition of the metals that make up the barrel and balance the load charge of the cartridge to avoid either vacuum welding or solid residues.
There is a movie about that Soviet space walk mission, it is in Russian, but it exist. Its caled "The Spacewalker" in English iMDB, original "Vremya pervykh" or "First time". Dimitry would love it! The misson was called "Voskhod 2" (Sunrise 2). www.imdb.com/title/tt6673840/
Soviets did bring most dogs safely back to earth. Gagarin wasn't a corn-fed square, he was a test pilot, the best of the best. If there were casualties during the first launch, it would've been declassified in the 80s along with Katyn. Soviets were the first to the surface of Mars also.
That’s a long way out. Space technically starts at 100 km (62 mi) front sea level iirc. This is a mainly arbitrary number agreed on by scientists. But with your requirements, where exactly do you draw the line? Zero atoms at all? 3 atoms per square meter? Etc. You are going to find some matter no matter where you are, it is simply a matter of how much. Plus, depending on the power of our magnetic field (which varies), the average distance to the solar wind changes. Aside from that, it varies by a very large amount depending on which direction you are going compared with the suns placement (due to the solar wind’s action against the Earths magnetic fields. The side facing the sun may have the atmosphere ending several times closer than the dark side of Earth. You could go to where the earth’s gravity is equal to the nearest bodies (moon, Mars, Venus, the Sun) but this would change as well based on placement on the you vs. other bodies etc.
Oh they faked footage of space walks, which is significantly easier then going to the moon. All the really hard shit that matters is real, yes makes total sense. That emotional connection got to let go and face facts.
I mean the soviets put 20mm cannons on some of there space stations Edit: 10:40, sorry but the soviets also got to Mars first with the Mars 3 probe, not to mention there success with Venus
You guys know the space force is literally just a new name for the Air Force Space command right? They’re just in charge of military satellite launches, hence the camo uniforms.
The only reason the space force exists is because with a new military force comes with more budget. Regular guns work fine in space and a .22lr would be honestly the best option, you dont need to outright kill anything u just need to puncture an enemy's suit and their dead. again new guns=more budget
@@Lugrer3113 Well it's listed as Alexander the Great and when I visited everyone referred to it as Alexander the Great (including the Serbs, Bosnians, and Croats who were with me).
Fuck it's funny listening to people who have absolutely no idea about space talking about space history. It's like listening to Joe Rogan talk about science.
Space force soldiers wouldn't actually BE in space 🤦♂️ they would be on earth responding to alerts from a satellite defense network 🤦♂️🤦♂️so many people laughed at trump for being dumb without realising THEY where the ones being dumb
I mean, it's really not hard to figure out. We are a long ways away from it being cheap and easy to put things/people into space. Therefore, 99% of Space Force activities are going to be taking place on the ground. I don't think it'd be very effective if you had an incident at your base's launch pad and your whole security detail was running around the hills in jet black uniforms with little star patterns all over them...
This is why I watch PKA, the hard science.
You mean 4 people talking about shit they barely know anything about what
@@umayuna4093 well yeah, that might as well be the name of the show 😂
Question, if the space force camo is stupid why does the air Force wear camo?
I'll answer it, because not everyone is a fucking pilot.
Joe is the most homeless looking nonhomeless ive seen
Plus he’s got a 2IQ
KEY NOTE PKA Modern Guns WILL WORK IN SPACE
Bullets carry their own oxidising agent in the explosive of the cartridge (which is sealed, anyway) so there's no need for atmospheric oxygen to ignite the propellant.
Yea how does Kyle not know that
Taylor at 4:15
There is also a "air gap" measured to each type of round and powder type.
and they will cycle just fine... at least until the oil evaporates and any unprotected metals weld themselves together. But it would be very easy to design a gun that reliably cycles
Yeah but we should be using sling shots
Aways love when Kyle brings out a little of the Russian accent
we need a compilation of kyle doing the fps russia accent on pka
18:27 one of the bookmarks is "Extreme Porn" 😂😂😂
it's an inside joke on woody
Regular firearms work in space it’s just if floating the energy would push you back, imagine shooting a shotgun but you spin around like a mad man when fired
Bow and arrow is actually a pretty good zero G weapon. There is technically recoil, but the impulse is spread out over a longer distance than a firearm. During space combat all you really have to do is poke a hole in your target's space suit and arrows are surprisingly good at penetrating things like Kevlar or chainmail.
Nathan Witus it’s more based on the weight of the projectile along with velocity of the projectile, a 300 gram arrow shot at 200fps would push you back more than a 100 gram arrow at the same speed, it’s just weird sciency math
@@masterplanet420 That is true, but it would be a slow steady push compared to the sudden shock of a 12ga shotgun for example. Arrows accelerate very slowly compared to bullets and reach much lower overall speeds. Now, an arrow has a much greater mass than a bullet but typically has less total kinetic energy.
Energy equals mass times acceleration squared
A 450 grain arrow accelerating to 275 fps for one second will have an arbitrary energy of 34,031,250
A 125 grain bullet accelerating to 1100 fps for one second will have an arbitrary energy of 151,250,000
In my extremely rough calculations an average 9mm bullet has about 5 times the total kinetic energy of an arrow fit for hunting large game like elk. Keep in mind in my (once again extremely rough) calculation it took the 125 grain projectile a *whole second* to accelerate to its peak speed of 1100fps.
Arrows are able to achieve greater levels of penetration than bullets that have greater total kinetic energy due to a physical property known as "ballistic density"
Essentially as a long skinny projectile contacts the target the whole mass of the projectile behind the tip continues its momentum and effectively pushes the tip through.
Recoil impulse is based on the acceleration of the projectile more than its mass, especially when considering zero G conditions
you just have to shoot another gun in the other direction at the same time
@@kingkonut a gun that shoots opposite directions at the same time lol
3:00 Joe just mumbling about printers.
Shut up joe
Stapleton looks like he had a rough night
Think the line of space is made by how many particles of atmosphere per million there are. Once it’s below a certain amount of atmospheric particles it’s considered space. This year they said there is earth atmosphere particles past the moon.
I was wondering if it would be ppm or atoms per volume.
Ppm would be hard because there is so little matter in the near vacuum of space. But it would give an idea of the percentage of matter that is technically Earths atmosphere vs something else.
@@dr.lyleevans6915 You're right, the operative measurement is atoms/volume; PPM is just a ratio of the different types of particles measured.
soviat union had space canons instaled on there space stations before it became a international mission.
Its crazy kyle is so intelligent and interesting while being funny at the same time taylor also
6:51 NASA's rank and file may not be, but some of the contractors have been.
I love that Woody is just looking up 3D printed fleshlights while everyone is talking “*ALIENS*”
About the space thing, you have to be moving at a speed relative to your altitude. i.e. the lower the altitude the faster you need to move to stay in an orbit. if you go strait up you will just free fall back because of earths gravity being the strongest force that is being applied.
Russian impression made me thrills
Boris: easy part over, "AK racks" now we hunt Vadim through tundra
Karman line 338,000 ft, 62 miles, 100 km is space, that's how I remember an easy km to miles conversion.
Or just multiply the miles value by .6 and subtract the difference
lol Buzz Aldrin probably isn't the best example for a hick astronaut. He got his undergrad in mechanical engineering, served as a fighter pilot and got his master's in astronautics. For his master's thesis, he invented a technique for orbital rendezvous.
That Russian astronauts fighting bears and yetis in Siberia has to be made into a game
So there will probably not be a BUNCH of people in Space at one time. Most folks will be on the ground. Air Force folks wear weird camo. Pilots wear flight suits. So...I’m guessing they don’t need to look like extras on Austin Powers (James Bond).
Velcro is a swiss invention. Further it was around for almost two decades before the moon landing.
Regular guns do work in space but the recoil will send you flying backwards, so that’s why a gyro jet will work well it doesn’t have recoil
trump seen his son playing cod ghosts and seen Russians in space and he was like we need a space force now
2:35 super shocked that Kyle doesnt know regular guns work perfectly fine in space
Guns will get dirty pretty fast though.
@@megastoejoe It wont get any dirtier in space than it does on earth. Probably less so since you dont have particulate in the air or dirt/mud to worry about
@@nat040496 You'd have to change the composition of the metals that make up the barrel and balance the load charge of the cartridge to avoid either vacuum welding or solid residues.
@@megastoejoe Ah that's true. Forgot about that
Also that the gyrojet pistol wasn’t actually made to be a “space gun”
4:06 Lmao woody....
Space fanboys cry when watching this...😥
There is a movie about that Soviet space walk mission, it is in Russian, but it exist. Its caled "The Spacewalker" in English iMDB, original "Vremya pervykh" or "First time". Dimitry would love it! The misson was called "Voskhod 2" (Sunrise 2).
www.imdb.com/title/tt6673840/
Woody that's called the atmosphere that's the line
Soviets did bring most dogs safely back to earth. Gagarin wasn't a corn-fed square, he was a test pilot, the best of the best. If there were casualties during the first launch, it would've been declassified in the 80s along with Katyn. Soviets were the first to the surface of Mars also.
I feel like space is when there is no more measurable atmosphere
[IG] BigDickBen then the iss technically wouldn’t be in space
nix woah
That’s a long way out. Space technically starts at 100 km (62 mi) front sea level iirc. This is a mainly arbitrary number agreed on by scientists.
But with your requirements, where exactly do you draw the line? Zero atoms at all? 3 atoms per square meter? Etc. You are going to find some matter no matter where you are, it is simply a matter of how much. Plus, depending on the power of our magnetic field (which varies), the average distance to the solar wind changes. Aside from that, it varies by a very large amount depending on which direction you are going compared with the suns placement (due to the solar wind’s action against the Earths magnetic fields. The side facing the sun may have the atmosphere ending several times closer than the dark side of Earth.
You could go to where the earth’s gravity is equal to the nearest bodies (moon, Mars, Venus, the Sun) but this would change as well based on placement on the you vs. other bodies etc.
What if the Star Wars project is actually real
love me some world war z.
I would personally consider space after that orbiting area.
Oh they faked footage of space walks, which is significantly easier then going to the moon. All the really hard shit that matters is real, yes makes total sense. That emotional connection got to let go and face facts.
What's in the HardCore Porn folder he has on his browser? Surely a Joke lol
Trump2020 nobody hated him until their phones told them to.
He's always been controversial lmao, the way he acts creates a lot of friends and a lot of enemies.
@N-Word Salesman
Trump has grabbed his ankles for Israel harder than any other president since LBJ...
What’s your take on this year old comment?
It's childish how much of an opinion people form based on news stories
Firearms do work in space. The vacuum has no effect. It’s been tested
I mean the soviets put 20mm cannons on some of there space stations
Edit: 10:40, sorry but the soviets also got to Mars first with the Mars 3 probe, not to mention there success with Venus
They where ocps for logistics reasons
Its to have a uniform camo is just cuz thats what theyre already buying
theres and oxidizer in ammunition if itll fire underwater it'll fire in space
Sling shots work in space
You guys know the space force is literally just a new name for the Air Force Space command right? They’re just in charge of military satellite launches, hence the camo uniforms.
It's a consolidation of all branches' space operations because there was so much redundancy.
Simple history metion about soviet space gun
Honestly, the creation of a space force is a fantastic idea. The issue is the person who created them, and the name😂
Actually, Russia still hasn't even landed on mars
Joe might Be dumber than Woody
The only reason the space force exists is because with a new military force comes with more budget. Regular guns work fine in space and a .22lr would be honestly the best option, you dont need to outright kill anything u just need to puncture an enemy's suit and their dead. again new guns=more budget
Look up alexander the great statue in Skopje, Macedonia...
No one cares about your history theft and the fact that you have none of your own.
@N-Word Salesman are you fucking stupid? It's a statue there's no conspiracy it's just really big. Did you even watch the video?
@@Lugrer3113 first I'm not Macedonian and second it's a big ass statue. So chill.
@@hossahunter22 Yeah it's a statue of a guy on a horse called "warrior on a horse".
We have a lot of those in Europe so it's nothing special.
@@Lugrer3113 Well it's listed as Alexander the Great and when I visited everyone referred to it as Alexander the Great (including the Serbs, Bosnians, and Croats who were with me).
Wow Joe is the worst guest I’ve ever seen. Everything he said was pointless and the whole show would have been much better with him absent.
If you're in orbit, you cant be in 0g
Gyroget was not made for space...
Fuck it's funny listening to people who have absolutely no idea about space talking about space history. It's like listening to Joe Rogan talk about science.
My cousin is actually apart of the new space force
Space force soldiers wouldn't actually BE in space 🤦♂️ they would be on earth responding to alerts from a satellite defense network 🤦♂️🤦♂️so many people laughed at trump for being dumb without realising THEY where the ones being dumb
This is cringe how little they know about space
Just a little.
Yea and how would they not know guns work in space
Typical civilians.
They did fake That car to space and what about the rat in the flying rocket
Your elevation will change how far away space is too
I mean, it's really not hard to figure out. We are a long ways away from it being cheap and easy to put things/people into space. Therefore, 99% of Space Force activities are going to be taking place on the ground. I don't think it'd be very effective if you had an incident at your base's launch pad and your whole security detail was running around the hills in jet black uniforms with little star patterns all over them...
On the note of statues at the end the rest of the world has statues ha we turned a fucking mountain into our leaders heads naruto style
Never have this Joe Stapleton guy on again he ruins a great discussion that voice makes my ears bleed