Did Depp/Heard Trial Conclusion Cause Confusion/Delusion Fusion? | Final Analysis of Endless Case
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the closing arguments and offer my final thoughts on the Johnny Depp /Amber Heard defamation trial?
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If a man had been recorded saying to a woman “ I wasn’t punching you I was hitting you” he’d already be in prison…
Exactly, no trial is needed.
Eh. Probably for a few months before his sentence keeps getting reduced. The justice system is weird
double standards... if amber be a man she would be in jail by now...what a evil woman..so many men end up killing them selves..i believe Jonny and Amber is evil .
I'm disappointed by dr grande statement saying that Johnny's finger is not cause by Amber only,like how?? They are fight? Did dr grande even watch all the trial? I follow the trial since UK trial, and Johnny testimony never ever changed. While amber always change, and the violence of abuse always increase.
boop
I disagree. This is exactly what Johnny should have done. It may sound corny but it’s much bigger than just him. He is giving men across the globe a voice and saying yes, men can and are victims of DV.
And letting them to talk openly about it.
Calling Depp a poor victim is a perversion. This case is nowhere near reality for normal people.
As a woman, i think he has helped shine light on the realities of DV. I swear Amber is just like my exhusband.
100%
Exactly.
I’m disappointed in this one. It’s not an abuse of the legal system to protect yourself from public lies that damage your livelihood and reputation. In fact, it’s one of the many valid reasons that civil litigation exists.
I have a similar thought. I think that the onus should be on the court system to prevent cases that will waste the time of the court; I don't think we should expect people not to bring forth a case they deem worthy. I do think Johnny Depp misused the court's time because his intent was to reboot his PUBLIC image, and he used the legal system to do that. In other words, Depp already won regardless of the outcome, because the outcome/verdict was never the point.
@@kimbell6689 It was a defamation case. She did, and was found guilty, with malice.
Have to disagree with about never using the courts to clear your name. There is no way on god’s green earth we would know Johnny Depp wasn’t beating the shit out of Amber unless he took it to court.
ABSOLUTELY!
Agreed!
Absolutely! Well stated!
EXACTLY!!!! 👍🏻🙏🏻
I don’t think Amber foresaw Johnny being so willing to expose all the unsavory bits of his life just to expose *her* . Honestly I think she thought that was the safeguard against ever having to substantiate her claims; him being too afraid and too ashamed that the world would see his own flaws and shortcomings. But she damaged him and his reputation enough that, at that point, he probably thought “Well I’ve got nothing to lose; bring it on. You have more to be exposed than me.”
Agree!
Agreed 💯%
neither do i, but i now have less respect for him than if this case had never happened… this has been bad for both of them… toxic relationship ongoing basically… i had no idea he was as vile as some of this has revealed
@@jwinnfield9192 and he probably knew there would be opinions like yours after it all. But he’s not the sexually violent predator like he was being accused of. Being branded as such is far more damaging than anything I saw about him in the trial.
This!! How sick Amber is. She wasn't smart enough to realize this!
In order to believe Amber… we have to believe everyone else is a liar….Everyone lies but her.
The audio recordings and text messages didn’t lie about his cruelty. He’s verbally abusive at the least.
@@theworldofjuniperthecat1307 So is Amber. They brought out the worse in each other.
Not true. There are therapist notes dating from 2012 and testimonies from Pennington, Drew, Marz, Iglesias, and her sister that corroborate parts of her story.
@@xandra3220 self reported. Proof verified and verifiable is required to prove her assertions. She lied and it’s obvious to everyone. She lied and we know she lied and still she lies…
@@xandra3220 So these 'corroborating evidence' you speak of are unconvincing. Especially when AH sets up photo-ops of bruises that disappears after one day. Nor did it nullify AH's admission the op-ed was about JD, a severed finger and actual bruises documented. AH's repeated lies that she donated her divorce settlement? Or Moss testifying that JD NEVER pushed her down stairs as AH claims. Yeah, your comment is based on the evidence in what way?
99% of the time, I agree and learn something insightful from Dr Grande, much appreciated! However, I disagree with him on one point here. The lawsuit was ABSOLUTELY necessary as Amber was not going to stop self aggrandizing by trying to be a spokeswoman for the MeToo movement all the while slandering Johnny Depp, heaping undeserved shame on him at every turn. It needed to stop and the lawsuit was the only way to do that.
Reminder, she is still a public figure for domestic abuse! To this day she is STILL an ACLU ambassador for women 😂😂 after they got caught lying for her about her donations, after they heard about her getting arrested for assault in an airport, after resurfacing of that reality show footage from 2008 with her sister bruised from a fight with Amber.
The only metoo is Jonny Depp and Her ex wife who lied for her only for the evidence to show otherwise.
Yet she still has mainstream media and institutions as co-conspirators for her.
Dr Grande is a covert Narcissist.
Yep completely blew his credibility here.
Nope. Dr grande right as usual.
@@ashleighsparkle8810 And your argument is….?
So basically you're saying: He should have invested the rest of his life and money in campaigns to restore his reputation, BUT not by going to court and getting it back all at once!!?.
this is BS
Well said.
I love Dr. Grande but I think he's definitely wrong here. To suggest a PR campaign over the court system is laughable. JD did the right thing.
There are audio recordings of Amber admitting that she started all the fight, physically hit Johhny, and demanded that he stop running away from fights. "I wasn't punching you, I was hitting you." What victom of domestic abuse screams at her abuser, attacks him with fists, and demands he keep fighting? Come on ...
Not to mention, verbally attacks their abuser, makes fun of him and TAUNTS him endlessly, and makes fun of him.
Ya right, no victim would do anything that would even possibly make their abuser mad. She's mad to think that we'll believe her after those recordings.
Yep! 100%
Yep
Yes I said in the Forum of a prior video that doctor Grande did not appear to be well-informed about the trial.
He glosses over so many terrible things that she did.
Gonna have to disagree with you this Doc. Amber did defame Johnny big time. He lost 2 MAJOR movie roles because of her lies. Not to mention the physical abuse she caused to him. I have alot more to say but a 2 yr old to wrangle lol. 💛✌🏻
I would just like to add that in my opinion Amber T is the one that has misused the justice system. All you have to do is listen to her when she tells Johnny on that recording, "tell the world Johnny, tell them I Johnny Depp a man am a victim too, and see who the judge and jury believe."
"I have alot more to say" I feel that you could write a goddamn novel about her lies and cruelty
He can't prove that he wouldn't have lost the roles because he's a pathetic drunk and no on in Hollywood wanted to work with him because of his terrible behavior.
I await the more you have to say after the rodeo.
It might have contributed but I think the bigger problem is Johnny's extreme drug/alcohol abuse. In Hollywood each hour on set costs millions, and Johnny made it a habit to show up super late and waisting everyone's time. He was also incredibly well paid compared to other actors. Combined with the fact he was a few years past his prime and not as popular as he used to be it just didn't add upp economically to work with him anymore.
@@wilhelmhagberg4897 I might agree with you if they hadn’t dropped him from the pirates franchise 4 days after the op-ed.
He did the right thing by bringing her to court, he deserves justice
Johnny lost zero points talking about his addiction. It was already known. Not to mention there are over 20 million people suffering from addiction in the US alone. That doesn't even count the family and loves ones of the addicts. JD absolutely had to bring this to court. It is not a misuse of the court system. Sorry doc, I think you are wrong on this one.
I love your analysis 99% of the time, but I can’t agree with you on this one…She maliciously and intentionally created this media circus in revenge and for attention. Which affected his career; I think he had ample reason for a defamation case.
Same
I agree but one point DR Grande brought is that if Johnny was physically violent with her even one time, she TECHNICALLY IS a victim of domestic violence… She also makes up stuff, lies non-stop, was physically violent with him and others, acts like 12 year old, has no moral compass, … But law is based on technicalities.
Same
Yeah, I agreed with some points, but not with all. Falsely calling him an abuser and wife beater of course got him canceled, so he had a reason for the defamation case. And I dont think any campaign could have cleared his name as this trial did. But I dont think that it is very realistic for him to win the case itself, I could imagine, that both loose.
I can't agree with your characterization...
I disagree. The courts are meant for justice. Johnny would never get justice through the media, no matter how much money he had. It was closed to him.
I agree. For someone that goes on about cancel culture he kind of missed the mark on how hard it is to shift your image as a man when a woman is saying such things.
Agreed. Dr Grande is wrong in this respect, and seems to be envious of JD being able to bring this case. The real problem is that ordinary citizens cannot seek justice in this way. That's not JD's fault.
That’s true. Especially with the way the world has been in the MeToo movement. 100% agree with you
Johnny easily won this. Dr. Grande may be trying to remain diplomatic because of the size of his channel.
the only way to deal with narcissists is through the courts. they forever are capable of making up bigger and outrageous lies about you otherwise. I completely disagree with Dr. Grande here.
I cannot agree with Dr Grande’s assessment, when AH’s published article heavily insinuates that JD sexually and physically abused her, when it was proven that there is no evidence corroborating those claims. Moreover, JD was fired from fantastic beasts, after that publication.
This alone validates this lawsuit.
And even if JD loses based on the “shouting insults at someone is domestic abuse” argument, a technicality, this lawsuit demonstrated very clearly that AH is a compulsive liar, with little to no credibility. Not even her sister’s story matched up, and in fact contradicted AH’s version of events.
It was absolutely the right move by JD to bring about the lawsuit, in order to expose this, and clear his name. He said it himself, the legal outcome doesn’t matter as much. What matters is that the truth of the matter regarding physical and sexual abuse, is known.
If that’s the case, mission accomplished, and JD already won. If he’s awarded any damages, it’s the cherry on top.
I agree with a lot except that I fully agree that he should have taken it to court. Being able to confront your accuser and clear your name is his/our right by law. Doesn't matter outcome of trial, he will forever carry that mark. Good for him for taking it the full ride.
RIGHT ON! 💖💖💖
Yes, taking it to court is the best thing to do to clear your name.
Yes. Especially because what he's being accused of is just the opposite of the truth and what he believes in. A lot of his exes have spoken up about how good he was to them. I think because he grew up in an abusive home, it's very important to him to not repeat those mistakes to the people around him. He didn't even want to go to court, he didn't care if he was abused by AH. But she took it too far and destroyed his reputation. He didn't want to be a face of abuse, the very crime that he endured when he was growing up
@Blogger not all of them. Some find themselves in an abusive relationship again later in adulthood. Amber also grew up in an abusive household though. Evidences show who's who. They're both crazy in a way, but AH clearly is the one who loves violence.
Defamation IS a knowingly false allegation. I’m incredibly surprised to hear you claim that false allegations against him of IPV and sexual assault had little demonstrable impact on his career, or any other facet of his life.
He seems to think that the only reason JD filed this lawsuit was because of his bad finances and this was a last ditch effort to get some back after years of being shunned and denied opportunities, well not true, his reputation suffered, greatly, I was immensely disappointed when all this came out being somewhat of a fan of JD, this was an incredible blow to his career, him not winning this on the basis of defamation would only be because of the dumb technicalities but truthfully speaking, and outside of court language and rules, her words, the op-ed and everything else in between that she claimed and did, those sickening performances and pledged donations, DID harm him and his reputation, his bad finances have nothing to do with it.
100% agree!
@@KhadaJhin04 I know right??? for one thing,,,his financial adviser and manager of 20 years stole multi millions from him - that is what he found out the night of that "cupboard smashing video" - he took them both to court and was settled and he was paid some of it back,, so there's that.. and when is financial issues a reason to sue somebody?? when it costs A LOT of money to sue. AH doesn't have any - so that seems ridiculous to me to think he sued her just for the money.
@@KhadaJhin04 I think you’re probably right; Dr. Grande believes JD went through this awful ordeal mainly in an attempt to recover financially. Which is really disappointing to hear from the doctor. It’s as if he wasn’t listening at all to Johnny’s final statements on the stand:
“No human being is perfect, but I have never in my life committed sexual battery, physical abuse, all these outlandish, outrageous stories of me committing these things. And living with it for six years. And waiting to be able to bring the truth out. So this is not easy for any of us. I know that. But no matter what happens, I did get here, and I did tell the truth. And I have spoken up for what I’ve been carrying on my back reluctantly for six years.”
If Dr. Grande thinks this isn’t THE reason Johnny went through all of this… then he should consider himself lucky not to know the experience, the devastation, from being on the receiving end of abusive partner’s smear campaign.
@@waynepolo6193 also, Jd is still worth hundreds of millions, so money doesn’t make sense as a motivator. It’s about his career and his public reputation and the effects on his children..
I have to disagree. Johnny's career took measurable damage due to Amber's accusations, and he needed to bring the full case out into the open to have any chance to repair it. Only the objective venue of a court of law would permit this; no mere "PR campaign" would accomplish this.
I agree however I’m sure his use of drug and alcohol and lateness were becoming a big issue already that these accusations were the nail in the coffin. I think they both played a role in his professional reputation. She has some ownership there, just not 100%… also I saw a statement saying his alcohol and drug abuse skyrocketed when their relationship began… perhaps it wasn’t as bad prior, so she could of had a hand in that too, I’m not sure though.
@@lseh He was drinking and doing drugs and arriving late for years and was never kicked from a movie or saw a dramatic decline in work. It wasn't until the article was published that his career tanked.
I am a lawyer. There was definitely probable cause in this matter and it was not an abuse of the system
@@lseh I think she used his drug use against him as a weapon. It wouldn't surprise me if she did this marriage for a money grab
Big miss on this from the good Dr.
After it was undeniably shown that she faked photos, it was 100% clear that she was a dangerous and deranged liar. I don't blame Johnny for taking this case to court.
Exactly. The only way to deal with a liar was to expose her completely. I would have done the same. Let her delusional thinking and entitlement come out and be seen by the world. She is not very smart.
I pray that someone is watching her baby daughter.
She didn't fake the photos, the lighting was adjusted. Your most phones and photo apps automatically do that to your pictures without your knowledge
@@wizkidextrordinare she used her bruise kit to create bruises that were gone the following day. She’s devious and deserves to see her career destroyed.
@@sandrabarrie84 there is absolutely no evidence she used a bruise kit!!!
@@karens3805 Yet, there is 100% PROOF that the bruise did NOT come from Johnny, since we see her without it while Johnny was across the world, days before she tipped off TMZ and filed the TRO.
My dude was across the damn planet and she had nothing on her when he left.
I don’t think that he was wasting the courts time. This is the only way he could almost definitively show what happened. If he tried any other way it would have been another “conspiracy theory”.
Absolutely right! If he tried in any other way, AH would even file another lawsuit against him! In fact her first lawsuit was a pure perjury and got away with it and would use her victory in that lawsuit to cover for her new lawsuit against him!( if Johnny was trying other ways than suing her and she would sue him for that)...
Agree - that was a ridiculous statement, and shows Dr Grande is very ignorant of how the law or courts work. I don’t think he watched much of the trial.
The defense assertion that just one incident of abuse is enough to defeat Johnny’s claim is not a correct statement of law, just to start.
If Johnny’s case had been without merit it would have been kicked out at the pleadings stage, the summary judgment stage, or the motions to dismiss stage.
If Dr G didn’t have time to do a solid analysis, better do none at all than this facile, ignorant piece.
I agree
I completely agree. The news media are completely on Amber's side. There are no PR moves, statements or actions he could have taken that wouldn't have been spinned by the media to make him look bad. There was no other way for Johnny to clear his name other than an impartial and televised trial, where everyone could look at the evidence by themselves.
I completely agree with you. Johnny needed to stand up for himself. Just saying you didn't do something sometimes just isn't good enough.
Imagine being accused of sexual battery and domestic abuse. Imagine your TH-cam channel banned or your career ruined. Imagine your kids being bullied at school and shown pictures of People's magazine with the accuser's bruised face. Wouldn't you want to clear your name? Wouldn't you want your children to know that their father isn't a monster? Is it because he has a lot of money that he has to deal with it and accept the accusations? As for the lawsuit, if there wasn't probable cause, it would have been thrown out in the first place, so no, it's not a waste of the court's time. Also, many lawyers spoke out and said he didn't receive a fair trial in the UK since there were issues with the judge. I honestly can't understand people who think that this man is wasting time and money and should cope with being accused of rape with a bottle.
Completely agree with this. It makes me wonder if Dr. Grande is aware of all the accusations that Heard made in her op-ed. A PR campaign would not have been enough to counter Heard's claims of physical AND sexual abuse.
I agree. I think the allegations are heinous. I am not sure that it is possible to clear your name. Once you have a label on you, as an abuser for example, that is a VERY hard label to get rid of! even if you "get a campaign together", that is not the same as a trial in which all of the evidence is presented from both sides and a judgement call is made. I thought Depp was the abuser too...until I saw the trial. I was shocked.
This so called Dr always sides with females. He even defented female serial killer aileen. He doesn't care who's right or wrong in most cases. Tried to use her past as an excuse and made it look it was ok for her to kill.
Well said, bottom line it's his money, he may waste however he see fits legally or illegally if he choose.
Well said!!
Kate Moss was on the stand and said Johnny never pushed him down the stairs. For you to tell us whether you thought she did or not is weird, after the fact. It's not even debatable. I thought Johnny won the case by a large margin and Amber was a complete sociopathic liar.
Exactly!!!
She could have shut those rumors down from day one! You must be too young to remember all the crazy JD has been in the news for! The man is need of real help, his friends are bought and paid for! The only people supporting him, outside of his hired help are those that use fame to get away with sick Sh!t!
Ya, big fan but i think this analysis may have been recorded after a few glasses of 🍷
This is what really annoys me about this guy. I don’t think he even watches the trial to be honest.
@@JanesBlonde-007 I am thinking you may have watched, but purposefully ignored the facts! Wake up!
I'm taken aback by your comments Dr. G. I watched the entire trial and I'd like to see Amber pay all his damages. As soon as she published the op ed he was dropped from films and her testimony was that she wrote the op ed because he was a powerful man. She did it to ruin him and it has worked (so far). I hope his case gives courage to other men in DV situations and I hope society will believe male victims. I hope Hollywood hires Johnny soon for some new films asap. I believe he has cleared his name.
I have a feeling people will go to the movies to encourage him next time he has a movie in theatres!
Dr Grande is a covert narcissist.
I know. Dr. Grande literally contradicted his OWN damn self, over and over and over in this video.
-He lost ALL his roles because he was accused of being a "wife beater"
-Dr. Grande believes he did NOT EVER strike Amber.
-Dr. Grande believes that calling a lie which cost him all his movie roles defamation, is like "a passenger on the titanic blaming the ship sinking on a heavy suitcase".
...WUT?!
Even if he loses this trial, he has still won in the eyes of the world. Even an idiot could tell its an innocent man who valued his privacy, to be pushed to the point of opening his life to the world. You don't air all your embarrassing secrets if your guilty.
@@Jimmymatthewb Dr Grande comes across as messed up.... a covert narcissist.
I think it is clear that Amber's actions maliciously targeted Johnny's career. We saw him lose both the Harry Potter and Pirates franchises. He was using drugs and alcohol long before landing those jobs, and that didn't stop the studios from employing him. Only when Amber made lying accusations of physical abuse did Hollywood shun Johnny.
I would not be surprised if Johnny returned to Hollywood gigs. Amber will never work in Hollywood again.
He has two already and beetlejuice 2 is one of them.
Being with her made his drugs and drinking much worse than is was. No One Ever complained about it that much before her. Everyone knows JD is an odd and unique person. That is why he does these roles so well. There is the saying even geniuses are weird people.
Where WILL Amber work again? I'm thinking she would have difficulty getting a waitress job now. Who would allow her to wait on them? Does "No Excuses" jeans still exist? I suppose she could also try porn, especially violent porn. There'd be a real market for men who want to see her beaten. The problem with publicity is that it cuts both ways.
Me too, and that he is the main character in each movie, with his name above the title. I love watching him - he's the best actor.
Depp is a monster too.
I disagree, definitely he did the right thing suing her, he has to take her to a neutral ground to prove his case, if not it will be his word against hers, she is a liar, as a survivor of domestic violence by my father I’m offended for her actions.
I also didn’t like the characterization of his addiction. Addiction isn’t a choice and his addiction was at its worst before they even got married. It was even bad right when they started dating, so if it was that big of a deal to her she could’ve backed out right away. I disagree with like %85 of his opinions in this video.
Agree with Maria. In the era of Metoo, a court case is the only way to get your name back, even if it’s not desirable.
Agreed. I think as a society i think this case is bigger than just Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard. It's about showing that men too can suffer from DV and that people can't just create lies to ruin someone. This is to give courage to male DV victims to come forward and a message to female abusers that just because you're a female doesn't mean you don't cause harm and can't be punished.
MeToo was dangerous and gave women free reign to make up any allegations they wanted and people would believe them.
Not to mention a gaslighter who _refuses_ to believe her own wrongdoing and to take responsibility for _her part_ in their toxic relationship. We all heard the recordings and the endless circles of going absolutely nowhere and achieving absolutely anything, other than ultimately showing the world what a wretched woman she is, and how desperately sick.
@@chasearnold5676 no one's being seduced, this case has been exposed to the world, we've seen the facts, we've seen the true personality of both amber and johnny. You seem to think that everyone is biased based off his popularity and this is the best argument amber has, however we've all seen it and the world isn't siding with johnny for some movies he's been in.
I tend to agree with your opinions, but I disagree with you one some of the opinions in this video. I don't believe JD misused the court system - defamation and false accusations are a serious matter, and he has enough evidence to prove his innocence. I also disagree that his career was already a "sinking Titanic" - he certainly had some issues, but not to the point of losing two huge franchises.
No one wanted to work with him long before Amber's article.
Atleast not the role in Warner Brothers
@@joeking433 says who? Johnny was one of the most sought after actors in Hollywood regardless of his drug issues. "Everyone in Hollywood knew if you hired Johnny you were going to get all of Johnny so they worked around it" this is a direct quote from a testimony in this case.
@@joeking433 He literally was slated to be a part of the latest installment of fantastic beasts and had to be replaced. I'm starting to think you know nothing about this case.
Wrong Joe King, Johnny was planning on playing Captian Jack Sparrow in the 6th sequel to Pirate of the Caribbean and Gringwlad in the third sequel to the fantastic Beat series cause of Amber's BS article Disney and WB fired Johnny on the spot without waiting to hear the truth.
I never saw a Pirates movie or any movie in which Johnny Depp starred other than Sweeney Todd. I never paid attention to Depp's personal life and did not know anything about his personal life and had zero information about Amber Heard until the trial. Only from evidence adduced at trial with no pre-conceived opinion, I found Heard to be manipulative, desperate and a liar. Her incessant playing to the jury, changes of facial expressions "upon demand" as it were with each question by her lawyer, combined with her obvious, endless story-telling and gross exaggerations when she was on the stand were nauseating. The fact that her own photos and tape recordings demonstrate that she was the aggressor leaves no doubt in my mind but that Johnny Depp was abused by her and was justified to seek legal redress. Worst of all was learning how Heard succeeded (until the trial) in mis-using the MeToo movement to advance her retaliation of Depp. Dr. Grande made the point that Heard somehow thought it was ok to bully, hit and try to control Depp during their marriage. His analysis of how this mindset came about within her (i.e., fear of abandonment, etc.) is interesting but doesn't excuse it. It's amazing the marriage lasted as long as it did and kudos to Depp for acting first to get out of it.
Same here. I've never been a Johnny Depp fan and still don't care for his movies. But he was done a great injustice and he did the right thing by taking her to court.
Dr Grande you’re giving AH way too much credit here. She enabled JD to keep using alcohol and drugs, by also participating in alcohol and drug abuse herself, as the evidence shows. Keeping him an addict was one of her methods to control him. Without him being an addict, her Jekyl and Hyde story would be much weaker.
Y’all is all fall prey to conspiracy story an actual manchild that is for real 50 to 60 with wife of young age who is womanchild. Mr Jonny seduced many with a charm and “bad boy” theme smh
“The fact that they’re not her friends now and testified to support her, suggests that they’re telling the truth” … OR that they previously testified to something else and changing their story now would be committing perjury
I think this is exactly what happened.... she has some dirt on them. Some might even have help fabricate evidence. There's texts of amber to IO for example reminding IO to send the photos. She might have said if she goes down she's taking them with her.... pretty on point with how she tried to blackmail and threaten Depp to not divorce her
Bingo!
good point
Exactly
Exactly. They let themselves get involved in all her drama & lies. They eventually realized she was taking it too far & distanced themselves from her but, it was too late. They'd alrdy provided stmt & testimony for her TRO & the UK trial. They must avoid perjury now - & it wouldn't surprise me if, when she contacted them to testify in her favor again (after 3 yrs of silence) that she "pledged" (lol) to give them a small piece of the pie if she wins.🤔
Respectfully, it sounds like Dr Grande might be basing his analysis on unsound information about this trial. One of the counts of defamation that Johnny Depp is suing over is false allegations of physical and sexual abuse by him of Amber Heard. JD claims that those specific kinds of abuse never happened in that direction. Moreover, he claims that he is the victim of, in particular, physical abuse at the hands of AH.
The problem was not that AH told "an incomplete story" in her op-ed. The problem was that she told a grossly exaggerated story, which, if untrue, absolutely constituted grounds to claim defamation and great reputational harm to JD that wasn't caused by anything or anyone else but AH.
At least to me, this sounds like fair use of the court system. I cannot imagine any other avenue to take in this society at this time to clear one's name of such grave allegations.
I'm a long-term subscriber to Dr Grande and appreciate a lot of his analyses. In this case, I wish that this video did not contain such misleading information about a major civil case.
Agreed!! Defamation laws are in place for this very reason
He actually addressed that point very clearly. I think people who strongly identify with Johnny are having a lot of problems seeing the other side. Cases like this are never one sided. I don’t think the public really disliked Johnny even after the original divorce/restraining order which you can clearly see from the public backlash.
Amber's _lawyer_ took the view that if JD retaliated with even one nasty comment, that makes AH a "victim of domestic abuse" and therefore makes her op-ed truthful. Dr. Grande accepts that view. But I didn't hear that when I listened to the judge's instructions. Without listening to the instructions again (I haven't seen the full text online) my understanding that she is leaving that up to the jury.
To my mind, no, you do not have to absorb every blow and every ugly taunt without firing back _once_ , even with words, for fear your abuser will become a bona fide "victim" and smear you as a "victimizer." What the jury thinks, we'll find out in a few days.
I hope this trial prevents any other guy in the world from marrying her. I also hope summary of this trial s shown to every teenager in health education classes, so they know how crazy overrides beauty.
@@josephw.1463 AH's lawyers were misleading the jury, they were misrepresenting the instructions as they were using a false premise. They operated on the premise that AH's Op Ed was 'true'.
Amber claimed she was physically abused and sexually abused. Johnny being mean to her does not give her the right to accuse him of physical and sexual abuse. She could have just said he was emotionally and verbally abusive.
Pretty sure the op ed just vaguely said abuse, so verbal, emotional pr has lighting could all count
@@kyle5519 I disagree because two years earlier she had accused him of physical abuse. And so when she referenced abuse she had suffered two years earlier, it was 100% implied that it was physical.
@@kyle5519 nope! She was connecting the OP-ed to two years before when she sued him for physical violence, plus she republished the OP-ed in her Twitter adding her own description on the title in Twitter! That means a brand new publication of op-ed in her name that claimed Johnny abused her sexually!
@@mbrights3158 Pretty sure she told everyone the kind of abuse she meant in court. She said it herself, verbal, physical, and se3ual assault.
@@shafaghghose1456 You're absolutely correct about everything you said. Good point!
I really don’t see how any reasonable person can fail to conclude that Amber has acted with malice.
It was not wasted time at all, he exposed her for who she truly is! Those audio’s alone tell a story.
I commend what he did. Even if he loses this case, he still wins because now the world knows the truth.
@@golfgirl4211 absolutely agree! She herself tells him on those videos that no one will believe he is a victim of domestic violence! But he really is! And he is brave for going public with it!
he's just as bad. for the life of me i don't understand how people could've become so smitten with Depp all of a sudden solely based o n this process.
They BOTH horrible people, caught in a extremely unhealthy relationship, period! They should BOTH be just grateful and happy that this relationship is finally over and seek counseling and work on themselves for a change, instead of attacking other.
@@Sweet.Mother.of.Cheesus she started to attack him and she would never have stopped
@@Sweet.Mother.of.Cheesus even using your logic, if they are both abusive and horrible people, she should hand never written that op-Ed and started this whole mess. If they are both guilty then she should have taken the money, never have lied about donating the 7 million and moved on with her life and given both of them the room to heal.
I think you got this soooo wrong. :( I watched the entire trial and am not a fan of either. But there was absolutely grounds for defamation and this wasn’t a waste of the court system.
YES!!!
@@marinanelson4962 Agreed!
100% agree Rachel. Love your shirt DR. Grande but disagree this time
Men are picked on if a woman abused them, but arrested if they protect themselves.
I totally agree with you. I watched this whole court and knew either one of them and I found Amber to be the abuser.
So Dr. G, if a woman accused you of all these terrible things, writes an op-ed, and you lose all your credibility and means to make a living, you would just go ball up in a corner and let it happen? ok, I guess.
That's what Civil cases are for. 👍
Yea, I disagree with Dr Grande on this one. He seems biased.
No
This trial was essential for Johnny to show that he wasn't the abuser Amber falsely claimed him to be, that she is a sociopathic pathological liar. We saw the evidence and we saw her. Reputation matters and he's got his back among the public.
I don't agree that Johnny Depp had another way to clear his name.
He could set up a PR campaign, but whatever he tells us will be seen as a he said/she said story.
Merely an ugly mud slinging fest. The public wouldn't dare take side against an alleged abuse victim.
People from Amber's side would try and twist every fact just like how they did during this trail. Johnny used the power of the law to force them to tell the truth and still they would lie under oath.
There was just no way Johnny could expose AH's horrible personality without putting her on the stand for the world to see.
After hearing the bone chilling tape recordings of their fights, I'd say his vindication is justified.
I agree. Johnny had no other way to clear his name. The media would've spun it in favor of Amber because we must believe all women. The media still tried to shape the narrative - I am so thankful that the judge allowed cameras in to the trial. That is the only way the public got to see the truth.
Johnny got cancelled by a woman claiming domestic violence. About the only thing worse than that is being cancelled for alleged rape.
It's nearly impossible to come back from that without legal action
@@FelipeSS98 Amber also accused him of raping her with a bottle.
Agreed, his PR team probably orchestrated the whole court route. Made sure he got the right lawyers and the case got national coverage
totally agree. What is one supposed to do when falsely accused of such heinous things that get them canceled in this bizarre new world of social justice (pick your flavor).
I will never understand how she thought her audio recordings were going to help her. Her lack of self-awareness is astounding.
yes I think on top of all her personality disorders , she was probably drunk and made even greater disturbing judgementswhich is really saying something.
Narcissist, she is.
Also high on coke.
When she listens to those recordings I expect all she hears is her emotional pain. Someone like her will find it very hard to understand the consequences of her actions on another person, she has very little empathy in all likelihood.
Lack of self-awareness, It's a part of the disease of BPD...and a coping strategy for not having to potentially deal with the core pain that she has inside of which drives all of her behaviour. Unless she deals with that, she will not heal, and continue to be in toxic relationships herself.
My main point is that Depp had every right to sue. He had evidence of her abuse and had no way of knowing she would lie about everything. He had witnesses from almost everyone that saw Amber including the police. If he knew he had not done what she claimed, it was not a frivolous suit and the damage to his career was very real. To "clear their name" is the exact purpose of a defamation charge.
The sexual attacks were when Amber was in college? She went to college? I thought she said she fast tracked out of high school to hurry onto LA and then began her acting/modelling career riding buses all over Los Angeles? Additionally, I read that she later got her degree via a home study course. (Wikipedia). And why change the claim at the last minute to accuse Depp? If she had been hit as many times as she claims, she would have had significant injuries, with or without rings. If she had any wounds most likely they were from Depp defending himself. In none of the recorded evidence does he admit, nor does she claim, violence on his part except when he vociferously denies it.
"At least one occassion".. "some type of domestic violence" does not compare with claims of sexual rape with a bottle or constant and viscous "beatings". The evidence was overwhelming that Depp WAS a victim of physical, emotional and mental violence and attacks as well as dishonesty and infidelity. Agreed that he was a poor money manager but her claims were the catalyst to his complete and total fall from grace. I don't believe the same is true for her career due to his actions. As far as vindictiveness, he would have taken no action had she not tried to portray herself as a "victim" (she doesn't like the word but clearly paints herself into the definition), obviously at his hands What happened to the agreement in their divorce terms that they would let it go at that point? She did betray their agreement. I strongly disagree that Depp's goal was to destroy Amber. I've been convinced by the trial content that he wanted to clear his name. Sexual and extreme physical and emotional abuse as claimed are vicious and heinous claims and an innocent party would obviously want desperately to have the truth be known. illusion
Exactly. The patience he had was that of a saint. I cannot imagine how I would cope if I was constantly insulted, judged and mocked by someone who was supposed to be the love of my life. Then for him to resist hurting her in any way because of his own moral code, only to be accused of doing the very thing he made sure not to do. It must hurt.
I have to disagree. I watched the entire trial just because I can do both things at once. I wanted to be fair. She put him through hell during the relationship. He loved her and she just used that against him to abuse him over and over until the passing of his mother made him realize he had married his abusive mother. There's a heartbreaking recording when their relationship was dying where he realizes he fell in love with a mirage. You can hear his pain. Not only did she torture him, but she decided that wasn't enough and wanted to tarnish his name. The only thing he had left. He has every right to defend himself. He even said he was doing it more for his kids than for himself. He's human, it seems you forgot that. As the trial went along, I started seeing him more as a fellow person than a celebrity. And I realized all he went through with her. She's a living nightmare. He just wanted his reputation back, something that took him years to get. We all make mistakes; I've been in the same position as him, trying to drown my sorrow in alcohol. Drugs and self harm don't make you a monster by themselves. I started objective and I ended up liking him more than before. He's human, we're all in the same path of mistakes and pain, we all deserve some sympathy.
I started watching this trial a day or two after it started, I was curious and didn't have any thoughts on who was guilty. I just kind of thought Johnny was guilty of something. Throughout watching the trial on the law tubes, Johnny Depp felt honest and relatable. Being a victim of DV and other abuses, I felt for him, his manner of talking and reporting what happened reminded me of how I spoke about my abuse, that is when I finally accepted the truth of my own relationships. I felt angry listening to Amber, the tapes and her testimony showed her true colors of an abuser and of someone who would attempt a hoax, she used the Me Too movement and betrayed every single abused woman across the world. I do believe the jury has enough to prove that she defamed him, Johnny lost two big movie roles because of her. She admitted on the stand that yes she wrote the op ed and she wrote it about Johnny and she republished the op ed on line. I hope something good can come out of this, one thing that came from my watching this trial is that I am now a fan of Johnny Depp
i felt the same way. after watching for a while, i realised that some women treated me so badly that i have now accepted that yes, i really was abused as a man. The mix of "we men are strong, no woman can touch us" and the inability to emotionally admit to being abused was like a sword of Damocles over my head for years. Through the trial, I accepted it and came to terms with it.
Me too. I realized even though it's hard to reject a lady claiming this kind of abuse as much as I want to believe her it's just so hard to the point I'm just mad at her now. She behaved so poorly I don't respect her and don't feel sorry for her anymore. I didn't lose respect for him. I should have, but nothing in this trial made me loose respect for him. She was always worse, way worse, by her own lack of "mountains of evidence". I don't believe a millionaire starlette wears drug store cosmetics like malani. I know you can't put color corrector on top of foundation at all, which was her testimony. bruise kits like she mentioned first, which would go on top for creating bruises.
“ . . . I am now a fan of Johnny Depp.” Me too.
Johnny is a better actor than Amber.People fell in love with Johnny 's characters.
That's exactly my story too!!!! You said it all.
I heard where this review was going & had to read the comments to make sure I heard this right.
How anyone could claim Amber did not blatantly lie & ruin Johnny’s career is beyond me.
Right!!
The thing is, domestic abuse isn't just about being physical, it's psychological abuse as well, if ever JD said anything mean to AH, then that is considered domestic abuse.
Ikr
@@jZamora87 And if her lawyers had gone that angle it would have been a strong case. But they went the SA route with no proof
@@coffeeaddiction3605 they tried to cover all angles, this case was extremely long and I'm ashamed to say it but I viewed about 95 percent of it. It's obviously clear that Turd lied more times than she breathed but the law is very finicky, I think Johnny has a good chance of winning the defamation due to AH re-tweeting the OpEd she wrote which in her last testimony, testified that the Oped was about johnny and how powerful he was.
I don’t think JD starting a campaign to reestablish his rep was going to work, he needed her lies exposed. And being in a court setting took away her ability to keep the narrative that he’s still ‘attacking’ her.
yep. I don't blame him a bit.
I think it would've been better to not have texts like "Im going to fuck her dead body to make sure she's dead" released to the world but obviously people forgot that quick so idk youre probably right?
im trying to figure out a way he could have started a public campaign to reestablish himself against the DV SV claims during the peak of the believe all women wave without it ending up in more negative press e.g him disagreeing during the divorce would have been interpreted as a man shaming&invalidating a woman's experience. would there even be any way of revealing the evidence without it being seen as a smear campaign against AH? i think they always knew they would lose the london trial; they did it to gather and bolster evidence for this one; it was always going to happen. i hope they both realise they do not need to live such lavish lifestyles in order to be happy and downgrade the private jets and islands to just enjoy participating in independent films which is where JD really shone for a lot of us.
@@countesspoppie The forensic psychiatrist diagnosed Ms. Heard with Histrionic and Borderline personality disorders. I think she was going easy on her and her opinion could have evolved watching the trial. I personally view her as a psychopath playing games with Mr. Depp's life for her own strategic benefit and sadistic enjoyment. One very good way to sabotage a psychopath is to get them talking on the record under oath because the lies always catch up to them if you can afford to get them in court enough times. So I can definitely see the advantage to the London trial win or lose.
@@mikejunker1163 you can hear JD on the tapes repeatedly telling her to "listen to the tapes, that's what they're there for" as well as being worried marriage counselling would end up with her picking and choosing what she'd say to save face (im paraphrasing) he knew there was something afoot and she was rewriting events. having been on the receiving end of gaslighting; i agree 100% you need a 3rd party official judgement. AH won't accept her actions until she comes to terms with her past trauma and mental health and why she behaves like this. gaslighting someone so that you can avoid feeling shame&blame (bc those are terrifying for her to feel) is not an effective strategy long-term and you will suffer in your life when you are unable to retain friends&partners. we get an example of this with her ex best friend's deposition.
I believe it was Amber's article that caused Johnny to loose two movie roles, and her sexual violence allegations we're repugnant, and I believe she lied about that.
Exactly, the bottle rape was probably what motivated him and his loved ones to say “enough”!
@@User-un7so i think she may of brought that up while on the stand that moment, i could be wrong but i think thats what i heard someone say in a YT vid.
He definitely lost his role in Fantastic Beast's because of her allegations, too!
Hi Kathy. I agree. I don't believe the gifted actor who brought Edward Scissor Hands, willy Wonka, the Mad Hatter, Captain Jack Sparrow and others to life and clearly has such an amazing emotional range would be capable of such abuse.
We’ll never know what happened.
I think you’ve missed an important distinction between ‘mistreatment’ and ‘physical and sexual abuse’. If she had only said that he mistreated her, he would have no case. But she said that he committed physical and sexual violence against her. And she continued to assert that during the trial, including the sexual assaults. To me, those are really big lines to cross. I also think that after he lost in the UK, he would have left it alone. When she allowed it to be republished, and advertised it as that, with such obviously ugly timing, I think he felt compelled to fight against it. I also think that a defamation trial is exactly how you clear your good (or even somewhat tarnished) name. I think that’s why there are defamation lawsuits.
'I think you’ve missed an important distinction between ‘mistreatment’ and ‘physical and sexual abuse’. If she had only said that he mistreated her, he would have no case." Spot on, but.....she did this while also knowing she had actually been hitting him and that his usual response to this was to hide or leave. And knowing that she was, at least also, abusive to him. That she also took drugs and drank. It is a straightforward and very serious case of defamation. I hope he gets justice and she gets what she deserves.
Spot on. After winning the UK trial, she thought she was untouchable. I think this is where her arrogant behavior, entitled attitude, lying through her teeth on the stand, etc, comes from.
For the first time I disagree with you Dr Grande. We are all entitled to use our court system to defend our self’s from being defamed!
Her tweet falls within republication as she embedded the online article in a tweet where she is encouraging people saying she wrote the article. And he absolutely did not misuse the court; there are many defamation cases and yes, it's hard to prove, but you don't have to be a genius to put the puzzle pieces together. Just like it's not hard to see that his problems started when he started dating her. Plus the first lawsuit in the UK had nothing to do with Amber , it was against The Sun newspaper and she was there as their witness, plus SHE filed 3 different motions against him that were dismissed by judges before hand. She is the one that doesn't leave him alone. She's been lying over and over. The only prof he allegedly was awful to her are texts that he sent to his friends, texts she never would have seen if not for this trial. So I personally and respectfully disagree.
He was on a downward spiral of abusing alcohol and drugs, directors have been saying he's difficult to work with and at that time depp wasn't even learning his lines he had an earpiece where someone was feeding him his lines
@@wizkidextrordinare If you had been watching the trial, you would know the earpiece rumor was false. The sound guy from Pirates testified to that. Nice try.
@@MakerInMotion his own agent testified in court that it was true
@@wizkidextrordinare The fact that minutia like that are all Amber supporters have to cling to warms my heart.
@@MakerInMotion I'm not an amber supporter you wierdo this isn't twilight where you're team heard or team depp, they're both abusive but depp stans pretend like he's a Saint, he admitted to cutting his own finger off admitted to headbutting heard, his agent apologized on behalf of johnny for kicking her. What else evidence do you want
Johnny didn’t want to bring Amber in my opinion. He first sewed the tabloids, and he lost. I think he then thought I’ll bring her to court for lying and to clear his reputation.
I disagree, there was only one way to get his story out. Which was to sue her because he had already went down the road of media to do this. Amber went through courts with false calms.
Amber never went to Court. The UK trial was started by Johnny Depp against the newspaper "the sun", Amber was called as witness.
The audios and Johnny's story were first heard in the UK.
He needed to use the courts to restore his credibility to the world. She's been accusing him for 6 years of being abused. The record needed to be set straight. It's cost him jobs and public doubt. Now we know the truth. He's won in the court of public opinion.
He needed the courts to protect his children . Both Lilly Rose and Jack have been pursued by the media and questioned about Heards claims .Jack had to deal with accusations at school . Do you think that would have stopped ???? It would have followed them throughout thier lives while Miss Heard strutted the world with her crown of ambassador against IPV . For those that have heard Heard on tape know she abused him , physically, mentally and emotionally. Who knows what his children have witnessed. IF , Lilly Rose and or Jack , at some point in the future, as full grown adults , choose to write an OP ED about thier time with Miss Heard they would be entitled to so . They have absolutely no obligation or responsibility to do so . Only if they felt it would benefit themselves to tell thier truth would it be appropriate for them to consider doing so . Or not .
The courts are the ONLY place he's going to be able to make his case on a level playing field.
What credibility? He is an out-of-control drug addict and alcoholic.
Exactly
Yes, depp wanted to make a spectacle out of this. He doesn't care about winning the defamation case; he only cares about public opinion. Stern was absolutely correct. Narcissist to the max. He's no better than Heard, he's just good at disguising it.
I disagree. Johnny was put in a terrible position where if a man is accused of DV, and he's lost his career bc of her lies, and the only way he could get his career back and clear his name was to put it in the world's eye with the courts looking at the evidence. It doesn't mean he's blameless - they both said nasty things to each other. But when it comes to actual violence, Amber was the guilty party. And by exposing all his crazy behavior as well, he was able to clear his name in much of the public's eye. It's impossible to know how much they'll reflect.
Regardless of the jury’s verdict, Amber Hurd loses. She came off so poorly during the trial, I can’t see any producer ever hiring her for a movie. The trial was the best thing JD did. Not sure how the courts have been misused. Regardless, defamation was proven in the court of public opinion.
People have short memories give them a couple of years five to ten years tops and they will have forgotten it ever happen.
@Music:Zerg Not defending her abilities as an actor, but I will defend her right to not be viewed as past her, or any actors', "prime" at age 36! Goodness! This isn't 1990! I think Hollywood has made much progress in that regard, over the last 30 years.
@@karynlouisa3771 We can defend her right not to be viewed as past her prime but that isn't going to change the facts in Hollywood. That said, she's cunning. She will be able to manipulate out of the spotlight in order to live a life of luxury. No doubt.
@@karynlouisa3771 fair point.
@@teletubbiestunetwister9570 i like your odd name.
I always loving hearing your perspective! I do disagree with you about it not being a necessary action to take Amber to court. Her allegations against him (DA & SA) are extremely serious, and I’m not sure he would’ve been able to save any face if people were not allowed to see Amber on the stand with her lies exposed. I’m happy he stood up for himself, and I think the trial resonated with a lot of people who have been in a similar situation. He did take accountability for the role he played in their toxic relationship, and I thought that was incredibly important. Thanks you for always sharing your thoughts in a kind and unbiased way ❤️
Dr. Grande, a genuine question: If Judge Azcarate, who you'd agree is much more qualified in legal matters than yourself, believed that Mr. Depp had enough cause to go forward with the defamation suit, even denying the motion of Heard's team to have it thrown out, how could you characterize his decision to do so as a misuse of the courts?
Right! If there is no probable cause, they wouldn't move forward going to court!! Spot on 🎯
It's just his opinion
VERYYY good question 👏 I was sitting here wondering the very same thing 🤔
She also denied the motion of Depp's team to have Amber's counter claim thrown out, DUH.
She just decided to let it go both ways and let the jury hear and see all evidence.
She could let it go forward anticipating very negative backlash should she do otherwise. I would do as she did knowing full well it wouldn't go anywhere.
I don’t agree. Johnny is willing to clean up and he has taken responsibility for his addictions! Amber is just the opposite! And as much as people don’t understand, Amber compounded his reliance on his chemical addictions!!!That is extremely important to understand. Amber caused their relationship to become toxic all by herself!!
Dr Grande is a covert Narcissist.
True true true - absolutely!!!
I usually agree with you, but I think you missed the mark on this one. Dr. Curry’s BPD/HPD diagnosis of Amber was spot on, and I am surprised you did not focus more on her ruthlessness and intense fear of abandonment that drove Amber’s actions. When Amber realized she could not get Johnny back she began a smear campaign. Her actions were not to bring awareness for victims, instead make Johnny suffer for leaving her.
Agreed👍🏼
I found this analysis biased and inconsistent. She was an addict and alcoholic too. His years of hard work couldn't have been gone just for a narcissistic woman. He did the right thing.
This!
Agreed.
I was under the impression that after the divorce, it was agreed that neither party would speak ill of the other and that’s what caused the charges to be pressed against Amber.
Right she says she wants to move on but reminded everyone by posting op-ed. She could have stood up for the #metwo movement with out being protrayed as a victim. Why couldn't she write a positive piece about her new life and baby
Not charges, that's criminal. He sued her, or you could say, brought a case against her. But not charges. But you're right, they weren't supposed to say anything bad about one another, and then the Me Too movement came and her new movie was about to come out, so she published the article. She brought this on herself.
It's a civil matter. So no charges are laid. Hence, a civil trial.
@@calliew311 Thank you, good point about “charges” , she would still seem financially libel due to breaching the agreement of the divorce.
That was why he just gave her $7,000,000.
Johny didn't have a choice but to sue. Amber s lousy actress & used that marriage & divorce to get $$$ & fame. She wouldn't stop using Johny's name without court order.
This trial was not a misuse of the courts. This was a civil trial, not a criminal one. Civil courts exist to deal with this sort of thing. BTW Great Shirt!!
I love watching you Dr. Grande but having survived an attempted murder by a supposed loved one I never saw coming, and having some prolonged in depth experience with a person with cluster B personality traits, I think Johnny is lucky to be alive. Not only that, I fear for Ms Heard's child as it seems highly likely to have been conceived solely as a prop for impression management.
I also think Mr Depp has done the American people a great service exposing Ms Heard for the type of person she is. I've read absolutely tons of commentary expressing shock and disbelief about her pathological lying and the motives that lying supported. I think anytime people can witness someone with cluster B traits in action it is instructive to the general public.
100% agree! And I am VERY concerned for that poor child!!! CPS needs to get involved!
I totally disagree with you this time. As a man who has been abused by threats and evil games, this is no light matter. Men have feelings too and having you're reputation smeared like this is an absolutely horrible thing. It feels you take this type of stuff way too lightly, false accusations and threats can destroy a person internally. Many men commit suicide from things like this
He’s seemed to lose some empathy and some respect for others when he started doing celebrity analysis and using humor/getting more praise for humor. We understand that there are “ real problems “ in the world but this too is important.
Spot on. Men's lives get destroyed by this. Kudos to Johnny for refusing to just sit back and take it.
He’s been pro Amber Heard since the beginning and I’d had stopped listening. Thought this one might be different but it’s not. He must not be aware that Johnny begged her to settle this privately. I listened to the recording and Johnny told her this was not going to help either one of them. It’s heartbreaking to hear him try to reason with her. He finally gave up. He didn’t have a choice because her Op Ed caused him to be canceled. Had she just taken her 7M and gone on with her life this would have never happened. His life had always been private until AH. She set out to destroy him and destroyed herself with her lies.
Btw Johnny has a financial expert to handle his money. He contacted Johnny and told him his money situation was serious so Johnny met with him and followed his advice to get his finances in order. That man testified in court. Johnny’s biggest mistake was supporting not only her but her friends. Her 3 bottles of $500.00 wine per day no doubt contributed to his financial problems. I’m done with this channel.
Agree with you. Hes wrong on this and im a woman. She told too many LIES since she was losing him.
He's prolly on Turds pr payroll lol
JD did the right thing. His life was already ruined after she lied about him.. he DID let it go until she wrote that ridiculous article. Amber just won’t let that man be. She deserves to be exposed. The sad thing is there are many more just like her that will never be brought to justice.
the problem is, AH is not suffering, she is what she is. I doubt she will look for help after the trial because she is a sick individual. And to be quite honest, I don't believe he will do better either. They are toxic people, and none of them handled this right.
Exactly
@Kat's crazy life I agree
Even after that he said he loved her and they could write a mutual letter but nope:(
@@nate2759 she seems psychopathic
I find it odd that Amber claims to want to help Johnny in his battle against his substance abuse. It doesn't seem she stayed away from alcohol or the occasional use of drug. Nor did her sister or friends. Great support group there... 😕
Dr Grande is a covert Narcissist.
And she pushed him to take more and more all the time. She was trying to set him up, or maybe even kill him.
If we lower the definition of domestic abuse to mean any "verbal abuse" then we are all victims of domestic abuse and therefore can claim such title which makes the title itself completely worthless and actually alienates the real victims of domestic violence. To say that any abuse justifies this defamatory behavior is to completely dismiss and ignore the real victims of domestic abuse. I do not agree that any "abuse", specially when such behavior is responsive and baited by who recorded the audio is a case for domestic violence.
Well said~
I completely agree with you! On point!
I have to disagree. Johnny wanted to restore his reputation as a decent human being more so than an actor for himself and his children. I'm sure he wants to continue working but I think he wanted and needed to tell the truth and hold Heard responsible for her defamation and abuse. He had a right to. A mere publicity campaign would not have been successful and I feel that this court battle was. He's never harmed anyone but himself. Heard is very disturbed and I think it was important for that to be made public. I hope he can get better and I also hope no one ever falls into her Jekyll/Hyde web again. He has admitted he has problems but she continues to lie and defame him.
The difference between them is, JD knows his demons, whereas AH is oblivious to her own disorder.
I respectfully but vehemently disagree with a couple of things- a couple of MAJOR things:
1. AH had the “right” to express her opinions in the WP op-ed.
This claim is naive at best, failing to take into account that false allegations are not technically “opinions.” More specifically, the false claims of physical and sexual she made in the form of her “opinion” were SEISMIC in nature. They were motivated by malice (arguably driven in part by AH’s various personality disorders) and were a DELIBERATE attempt to destroy JD and boost AH’s visibility/fame and fortune. AH’s scandalous accusations (and that’s indeed what they were, NOT “opinions”) had an inevitable and possibly irreparable impact on JD, as they would on any person (particularly a man) accused of such heinous, criminal acts.
2. JD could’ve found another way to clear his name and restore his reputation, such as a “PR campaign.”
AH’s claims as expressed in the op-ed were not in themselves criminal in the legal sense (though they should be), and JD was ABSOLUTELY within his rights to sue her for defamation. This case demonstrates precisely WHY such cases are part of our judicial system in the first place. Given the devastating, defamatory nature of AH’s claims, JD not only had the right to sue her for defamation but, arguably, even the DUTY to do so. Finally, if we’re being reasonable and rational here, we have little choice but to conclude that some kind of “PR campaign” waged by JD would have NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on clearing his name and restoring his reputation, either with the public or with MeToo-Movement-terrified movie studios. This is a world of tabloid journalism, one where facts or sources don’t matter much (if at all); if it bleeds, it leads, and the more salacious, outrageous, and sensational a story is, the more the general public tends to believe it. That’s just being realistic. When one adds to the mix the the fervor of MeToo (which AH clearly wanted to exploit for her own gain), the ONLY way for JD to clear his name was a trial.
Very well said really!
Gotta call BS on this assessment. If on the jury I'd definitely rule in favor of JD. She wanted to ruin him and lied and it affected his career far beyond substance abuse and money management,which was likely due to over trusting his managers.
Exactly.
I agree with most of your points. I don't agree that Amber leaving out major facts from her op-ed is not the same as lying. If she had told the real truth in her op-ed, it would not have had the same effect. Leaving those things out was done to hurt him and help her, and it did. Hence, defamation. Telling a story that isn't the true story is called lying.
I really don´t understand what was JD supposed to do according to Dr Grande? Let AH say whatever she wanted and not defend himself??? Was that the big thing to do? to have his own reputation, and livelyhood completely wrecked and do nothing??? Would that satisfy Dr Grande???
According to Dr. Grande, he should just shut up and take it. If that isn't blaming the victim I don't know what is.
Win or lose you could see how important it was for Johnny to hear those closing arguments. Finally someone said what he's been going through out loud.
I think it’s been cathartic and healing for a lot of us.
This court trial is the best thing to happened because knowing Amber, she will never stop taunting Johnny. She would endlessly speak relentless to the public that she is a “survivor” of domestic violence. She’s capable of writing, campaigning and all sorts of avenues to announce to the whole world as being the “survivor”. Today's social media can spread her claims exponentially. Dr. Grande may not agree, but placing this into court is the ultimate best thing.
victims of narcissists abuse often feel helpless against the gaslighting & smear campaign of the abuser, IMO there was no other way for JD to clear his name & as the" justice system " almost always favours the abuser due to the "lack of hard evidence" ..this was not a waste or abuse of the system, but just the necessary measure to even the playing field..thanx to JD we now see there is hope of fighting back against these covert narcissist types..
we shouldn’t have to be telling a therapist this. he’s a quack.
i see your point and agree, but this doctor is like majority psychologiest not very helpful...in narc abuse
Dr Grande is a covert Narcissist.
@@mrazik131 worthless
When she said on the recording, "Right. You're so good. You're so honorable..." Weaponizing his better qualities to berate him, I recognized that tactic and knew what he was dealing with.
That gave me chills when I heard it. I agree - she made sure he felt he had no admirable qualities.
She will stop at no means
@@sarahjaye4117 She'll get a job as a art film professor, do gender archeaology, and perform in the speaking circuit.
Yes, he is good, and well loved for it, and this is what she envied in him. because love is something you can’t control.
I usually like your analysis but this time I have to disagree. By your assertion that JD did not physically and sexually assault AH you must then say that AHs op ed was defamatory as it was obviously about him. It was a deliberate and malicious attempt to defame him. I've no doubt that they both threw insults at each other and I'm sure his drug use was rough to live with but this is not the basis of her case. She alleged he physically and sexually assaulted her, if that didn't happen then she has defamed him.
Totally agree!
Agree! And lets not forgets her alcohol and drus abuse
Precisely, now he's seen as a junkie with a potty mouth. But before this case, he was seen as an abusive wife-beater, on par with Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, and R. Kelly. He had every right to clear his name. Dr. Grande knows so much about narcissistic abuse. But this video almost sounds like victim-blaming: »How can you write nasty things about your narcissistic abuser? That makes you an abuser, too!« - Sorry, doc! That's not how this works.
Agreed. He seemed to let Amber get away with things even though there was prove she lied. He's justifying her as a victim in some ways because Johnny took drugs! Well she used drugs as well! She was no victim, she could not even prove them. Dr Grande simply took what Amber said and believed some of them when there was no evidence!
In the riveting last 10 minutes of her testimony, she admitted she wrote the op-ed about Johnny to bring him down because he is a powerful and adored man. If that's not an intent to defame, I don't know what is.
BRAVO! I hope the jury can see as clearly as yourself Dr. Grande.
If an ex of mine wrote a popular Op-Ed insinuating I sexually and physically assaulted them, and I didn’t - then trust me I’d take them to court. Especially since this isn’t the first time Amber made those false accusations. Johnny Depp is a gentle person who is uncomfortable with confrontation. He flees in the face of that. That was illustrated in the trial. That’s one of the reasons he didn’t fight Amber after the TRO, even though I’m sure many of us agree he should’ve. He’s essentially been a private public figure for decades. This is the first time he’s come out in this way, so this is major. That seems to be lost on many attempting to insinuate he’s wielding his power and wasting everyone’s time with this lawsuit. No time was wasted because as you said his image has positively improved for the public as a result of this. As for his addictions, he’s always wrestled with addictions, but I do believe they got worse when he was with Amber Heard. He was terribly unhappy in that connection and instead of leaving her right away, he drowned himself in more addictions which also affected his career.
I agree with everything you said and I am glad he went to court or he would not have been taken seriously
The way the op-ed was done was dirty, it allowed for her to smear him and use the smears to elevate her career, she is an example of everything you should avoid in a partner, an absolute disgrace!
and there was evidence that his name was in it and was later removed ..but they all knew she was aiming at johnny
And she admitted that the Op-Ed was about him in rebuttal cross examination.
@@MsKittyZA i think that was a slip up...
@@13hickory Yes, their were three versions, they went with the middle version.
@Geoff Tipps: And if she had mentioned him by name, she could be sued for libel...’softly, softly catchee monkey’...unscrupulous & creepy 💔
10:53 AH has the right to express opinions….lies….which damaged a man’s career?? But JD has no right to sue for defamation? That’s perplexing.
Very confusing....
He doesn’t not say that he had no right.
Doc grande is smoking the good stuff on this one.
I think JD did the right thing, however painful the public exposure would be. Seeing this trial removed all doubt in my mind. Amber was the real problem.
If the sexes were reversed, this analysis would be completely different, and this guy would be demanding that Johnny be sent to prison immediately.
Amber admitted to hitting Johnny, but she will never do any prison time, like Johnny would have.
She admitted cutting his finger off in a tape that they couldn’t play because someone on it was dead.
Jerry, his long time security and friend.
The tape doesn't confirm that she cut the finger, only that she was regretful of the situation.
@@wilhelmhagberg4897 You really need to do more research. Peace out….
I have to disagree when you said he lost points from his reputation when he talked about his drug and alcohol abuse. I feel he gained points for his honesty and transparency. It’s extremely difficult to admit those things and take responsibility for
them. Personal experience showed me that until you do you’ll never heal.
Agree with you. Amber is also an addict.
I agree
You are so right!
After loosing the case against the Sun newspaper, he was only left with two choices: retire with a stain over his reputation, or challenge directly his accuser who kept sneaking exaggerated accusations to the media, over and over again. Given the MeToo movement, Amber has an advantage that no amount of PR could overcome. Exposing all the dirty laundry in a civil case was the only appropriate choice left. This was not a criminal case, only a civil matter between two parties.
The fact that amber did not turn her devices over to the court makes me question everything. Even more than I already do. I really hope she is fined for not doing so when it was court ordered.
This makes me believe she had something on one of her devices that proved she made all this shit up. A text, an email, something proving her guilt. &that is why she did not turn her devices over.
I thought she did turn in her devices?
Dr Grande is a covert Narcissist.
@@KnightsWhoSayNi222 Nope.
Amber struck Johnny many, many times during the marriage. She was more vindictive. They both used drugs and alcohol.
Also amber was apparently drunk when she assaulted her ex at LAX
You don’t mention Amber’s issues with drug and alcohol addiction. That also played a huge role.
She did drugs too, almost as much as johny.
I'm surprised that they really didn't hone in on that during the trial as well, especially because "he was a monster" when he was using. If he was a monster then she's a soulless, despicable demon that manipulates to get her way.
@@Claudia-lq3ns I think she created the "monster" moniker and he internalised it
@@stellaallbright4750 picky picky but yes a number of people have talked about her cocaine use etc so it certainly appears she is no non drug angel.
I just fundamentally disagree that this was a waste of resources. The stigma around men and sexual assault allegations is shoot first ask questions later and that is not ok. This was the only way for Johnny to get his word out without stooping to the level of leaking crap to the press, a la : Amber. I think Johnny was right to bring about this lawsuit. I think as another person said, Amber never thought in a million years that Johnny would show his ass to show the world hers too.
Thank you Dr Grande, your concise and reasoned response is the most fair and balanced I have heard so far. The Heard and Depp case has been an exposure to a horrific relationship. If Ms Heard believed her talent and beauty were sufficient enough to rein Mr Depp in, she was bitterly disappointed. She weaponised Depp’s addictions to her own ends, to try and seek revenge in the most cruel and public way. Mr Depp hardly comes out of this sorry mess in a positive light either. I doubt either of them will go on to be better people and enter into healthy loving relationships, certainly not without therapy.
Dr. Grande, You didn’t mention Amber’s drug and alcohol abuse. I think that her abusive behaviour was made worse by the drugs. Herr anger against him was deliberate , well thought out and constant.
@@ChelleMEis if she didn't want him to use drugs and alcohol, maybe she shouldn't be doing drugs and alcohol. Fvking hypocrite.
@@ChelleMEis She did drugs and drank two bottles of $500 wine most days... she set him up , gaslighted him, and psychologically twisted him ... she probably made him take more drugs to cope. There is also a recording of her denying him his medications during a sobriety period . Her and her friends lived off his money !
@A J proven where exactly? I'm sorry but I've been paying attention every day and also watched alot more than just the trial
The girl has a cocaine, adderall and alcohol problem, that's VERY CLEAR all the way from 15 years ago people have said as such. Also xanax addiction could also be debated.
@@A.J.8.8.8 whether or not she uses 'recreationally' is irrelevant. She's still using.
he did mention it about 2 minutes into the video
Gotta disagree with you on this one, Doc Grande. Johnny was clearly defamed.
Something being clearly obvious and being recognised by a Jury are completely different Things.
Amber basically admits it - "That's why I wrote the OP-Ed (because of powerful men like Johnny Depp). If that wasn't a Perry Mason moment, and there were a lot of them!
@@golfgirl4211 yes. but in top of IT, Depp has to prove that ne never ever hit her. not even once.
He managed to make it appear very unlikely. Which might be enough. But maybe its not.
I think he has to prove it beyond doubt. Otherwise its not defamation and it doesnt matter what Amber Heard admitted
I thought I was the only one who thought Dr.Grande is being quite bias here. He seems to be still recovering from his obsession with Amber Heard and her charms. 😂🤣😅
Agreed! 2 days after the article came out, Disney fired him. Cause and effect right there!
“Lack of insight combined with shallowness, fame and millions of dollars” - this just about sums it up. Very, very sad. It’s beyond me that people with such resources allow themselves to live incredibly miserable lives.
Jonny did absolutely the right thing to take it to court , it was the only way to clear his name and draw a line under this toxic relationship.
I disagree. Johnny was able to expose Amber Heard as the manipulator she really is in a way he never could have accomplished if he had not sued her for defamation. Also, Johnny had no other choice after she made claims that were so grossly over-exaggerated and a blatant mispresentation of Johnny's actions and character.
Think the same. After such a big reputation damage has been done, i don't think a PR campaign can really solve it. I feel JD's only option was to go to court.
Agreed. He was not in it for the money, this is the only chance he has to have a fair case. Some people say this trial is wasted and everyone loses is incorrect. He already lost so much before this, he had not much left to lose by expose himself for the world to see. I admire him for this courage.
Hi Dr. Grande. While I appreciate some of the points you made in your analysis, I do think it is important to note that Amber did defame Johnny by republishing that tweet and adding text to it thereby claiming ownership of the title of the article. I believe she knew exactly what she was doing and did so with malice in terms of understanding what she was promoting in that tweet was untrue. As you recall from the trial, the text in that link of the online article directly references sexual abuse, which was not proven during the trial. I do not think that Johnny Depp misused the courts for this. In fact, this trial is the actual definition of defamation. While I understand your point of Johnny possibly using the media versus utilizing the courts to get his name cleared, that was not working. As you saw in the trial in the UK, The Sun newspaper won that suit even though Johnny tried to fight it. While I believe his substance-abuse was a major factor in making the situation with Amber a whole lot worse, he did not lose work in the past because of his substance-abuse. In fact, the industry knew all about it and still hired him because he was a great actor. You even heard in the testimony that when a studio hired Johnny Depp they knew they needed to embrace all of him. While he did spend a lot of money recklessly, he always had work so I don’t think he ever thought that work was not going to come his way. Clearly Amber Heard and her allegations changed all of that and he needed to take this to court to officially clear his name and to get his life back.
I agree with you 100%!
Also, retweeting it has the effect of reaching a wider audience that does not read WaPo's op-eds on a daily basis, so it *is* publishing it to an audience beyond WaPo readers.
I understand why he sued Amber. I believe she did defame his name with malice. And her claims were based on a lie. She wanted to hurt him to bring him down. She got away with being a victim for some years. I think her claiming she was sexually abused had a lot to do with why he sued. On the stand her sexual abuse story is over the top. I don’t believe her. I don’t think he had a choice but to sue.
Yes she is a malignant narcissist
@@DebraSuttondls yeah, I can kinda believe he threw the phone at her in frustration maybe. I can also see that maybe she had Rocky hit her and stage it. That's about it. All the other incidents are over the top, and get bigger and better as time goes on.... and the hystrionics also get bigger and better as time goes on.
And as an old timer, I've known of many an argument between couples where something got thrown in frustration. I've thrown things in frustration myself.... one incident does not an abuser maker. Particularly when she baits him like she did in the recordings, blocking the doorway when he wants to leave. That's coercive and abusive behavior also.
To equate Johnny’s actions with Amber’s seems woefully unbalanced. Amber abused Johnny tore up his whole life. She loved bombed him the way narcissists do, then proceeded to abuse him psychologically and physically. You can hear her trying to degrade him on the recorded phone call where she said “Tell them tell them I, as a man, Johnny Depp, am a victim of domestic abuse.” She’s challenging his manhood and trying to emasculate and intimidate him. That statement also shows Amber is sexist and entitled. Johnny is being a hero for being brave enough to bring to light that a woman can be just as abusive as any man can be. No person is perfect but there is a huge chasm between Johnny’s substance abuse and Amber Heard’s spousal abuse. If Johnny wins it will be a huge step forward for equality.
Absolutely.
I agree with Dr. Grande when he said, Amber heard lied about the abuse. Especially, when she said JD hit her over and over again with a fist full of rings.
I realize the public has wrapped their arms around Johnny Depp, however, speaking from personal experience it is no cake walk living with a person who abuses drugs and alcohol.
Ultimately, they both need help.
Dr. Grande, if I was a member of the jury in this case (I'm 72) and was presented with actual proof of someone blatantly lying under oath, time and again, I would not give credibility to anything that the person says...would you?
@@nate2759 yes.
neither does Dr Grande.
It's not okay to tell victims to just take abuse and not fight back. Johnny is the victim in this case. I don't know why that's so hard for you to wrap your head around.
Or if you did fight back, that in turn makes you an abuser 🤦♀️
He didn't say that. And they were both victims. Not just Depp.
@@shayr.3412 What was Amber a victim of in this relationship exactly?
@@dustingaethje1332 a victim of Johnny falling asleep 😛😁
@@shayr.3412 Amber is not a victim.
I think this was truly the only way. An image campaign would make Amber just use media more and more against Depp. She had already used media in her advantage for the past 6 years, she wasn't going to let him go. This was the only way to show the whole world that Amber lied about almost everything and tried to destroy a man's life and career.
Also it brought to attention the reality of how men can be abused through the justice system like Amber tried to do.
Depp's defamation case was weak, but Amber did defame him. She lied about Depp committing a crime, and that's automatically defamatory even against public figures. So it's right to sue her about it.
She was using drugs and alcohol too.
There is an audio recorded in Australia in the aftermath of the finger incident in which she cries and says she's sorry for what she has done. I think he did well to sue her, he has been very useful to the Mentoo movement.