Hi .Just wanted to say this is brilliant . Absolutely what is needed too study Elvin in action. nearly all videos of this great man, the camera focuses on his face and not what he is actually doing. I find it astonishing and annoying that there isn't any footage of him and his brilliant style . for me, he's the only man to study. for jazz Drummers . He along changed how jazz was played .and for me to this day no one has contributed more. for his original style and amazing flowing brilliance. I thank you please do more .
It's not that far off of Philly joe to be honest. Him and McCoy have just a few more patterns they like. And of course Elvin has his own ideas as well, If you listen enough times you'll start hearing the same or similar things multiple times. If you're a drummer and you take the time to learn 4, then 8 bars and so on until you get to a chorus (and the whole record if you're Tony Williams) you'll have a ton of info in your head and under your hands, and you'll be able do something greater than yourself which will only make you better. I think people are afraid to cop Elvin's stuff because they think it is complicated, but you'll find some -isms that show up a lot if you pay attention. He had a unique way of moving and his touch is very personal, but us mortals can still take the time to cop what he played and get a lot out of it.
Good advice. I will listen bar by bar. Another instructive TH-cam video is Kenny Barron "Hindisght" with Victor Lewis on drums. Full of comping vocabularly.
Just imagine how Wayne shorter must have felt playing on top of this rythm section!!! Just floating along but simultaneously hard driving and swinging. Simple and intricate. Otherworldly. So much to listen to. I wish I could hear the bass drum better. I’m sure it’s these headphones. His foot is just driving so much. Then listening to the hi hat, cymbals and what his left hand is doing to decorate. It’s four degrees of freedom. You could listen to this every day and still hear new things.
Agreed !!! So amazing… It’s easy for us to take for granted. Like a diamond or something amazing in nature… we marvel at it in almost disbelief for a while… then it’s back to our daily life. Seemingly, like no one cares anymore… but when you come back to it, it’s just as miraculous as it always was from the beginning. Some make their careers out of studying these things. Elvin was on this level, for sure. I wish so much I could spend some time with him and ask questions. I’d love to know more about his influences and his process. Elvin said in an interview that they had a regular Sunday Matinee gig that lasted 3 hrs. Ever week they’d okay only one song for 3 hours… basically a 3 hr Coltrane Sax solo… or everyone soloing whenever you wanted. Can you imagine playing the same groove for even 1 hour, even 30 min. ?? It’s quite obvious in his playing that Elvin went through this process a lot. As so as they count it off, it’s on and they get deep in it. The 1st minute is the same as minute 150, etc. Never showing off… the ego and the old bag of tricks have no place there… they would just lose their eyes, put down their heads and go. We very blessed to have these recordings. BTW, I might be able to bring out the bass drum more. The only issue is, if do not done right, this also turns up the bass player. It’s a trade off. I do boost the kick drum fundamental frequencies some, though. All the best… Keep Rocking !!!
Wow. Un discazo!!! Wayne shorter con dos miembros de la sección rítmica de coltrane. Mcoy tener piano, el vino Jones drums. Y el maestrazo de riggie workman al bass!
Loved the explanation... you can bring out the drums even more by working with eq and compression, but it is surely good enough as it is to even better appreciate Elvin's mastery. I used to do the same with Coltrane's albums when i wanted to better hear what Elvin was doing under Trane's solos since the 2 were often panned hard L/R, i would mute one channel.
Elvin jones is so left field on the drums 🥁 one thee greatest jazz drummer ever ❤🎉 RIEP 🙏🏾
Hi .Just wanted to say this is brilliant . Absolutely what is needed too study Elvin in action. nearly all videos of this great man, the camera focuses on his face and not what he is actually doing. I find it astonishing and annoying that there isn't any footage of him and his brilliant style . for me, he's the only man to study. for jazz Drummers . He along changed how jazz was played .and for me to this day no one has contributed more. for his original style and amazing flowing brilliance. I thank you please do more .
man i just love elvin so much. beautiful musician and beautiful human being!!!
I can't even begin to comprehend his comping. So intricate and subtle.
It's not that far off of Philly joe to be honest. Him and McCoy have just a few more patterns they like. And of course Elvin has his own ideas as well, If you listen enough times you'll start hearing the same or similar things multiple times. If you're a drummer and you take the time to learn 4, then 8 bars and so on until you get to a chorus (and the whole record if you're Tony Williams) you'll have a ton of info in your head and under your hands, and you'll be able do something greater than yourself which will only make you better. I think people are afraid to cop Elvin's stuff because they think it is complicated, but you'll find some -isms that show up a lot if you pay attention. He had a unique way of moving and his touch is very personal, but us mortals can still take the time to cop what he played and get a lot out of it.
Good advice. I will listen bar by bar. Another instructive TH-cam video is Kenny Barron "Hindisght" with Victor Lewis on drums. Full of comping vocabularly.
Just imagine how Wayne shorter must have felt playing on top of this rythm section!!!
Just floating along but simultaneously hard driving and swinging. Simple and intricate. Otherworldly. So much to listen to. I wish I could hear the bass drum better. I’m sure it’s these headphones. His foot is just driving so much. Then listening to the hi hat, cymbals and what his left hand is doing to decorate. It’s four degrees of freedom. You could listen to this every day and still hear new things.
Agreed !!! So amazing… It’s easy for us to take for granted. Like a diamond or something amazing in nature… we marvel at it in almost disbelief for a while… then it’s back to our daily life. Seemingly, like no one cares anymore… but when you come back to it, it’s just as miraculous as it always was from the beginning. Some make their careers out of studying these things. Elvin was on this level, for sure. I wish so much I could spend some time with him and ask questions. I’d love to know more about his influences and his process. Elvin said in an interview that they had a regular Sunday Matinee gig that lasted 3 hrs. Ever week they’d okay only one song for 3 hours… basically a 3 hr Coltrane Sax solo… or everyone soloing whenever you wanted. Can you imagine playing the same groove for even 1 hour, even 30 min. ?? It’s quite obvious in his playing that Elvin went through this process a lot. As so as they count it off, it’s on and they get deep in it. The 1st minute is the same as minute 150, etc. Never showing off… the ego and the old bag of tricks have no place there… they would just lose their eyes, put down their heads and go. We very blessed to have these recordings.
BTW, I might be able to bring out the bass drum more. The only issue is, if do not done right, this also turns up the bass player. It’s a trade off. I do boost the kick drum fundamental frequencies some, though.
All the best… Keep Rocking !!!
Wow. Un discazo!!! Wayne shorter con dos miembros de la sección rítmica de coltrane. Mcoy tener piano, el vino Jones drums. Y el maestrazo de riggie workman al bass!
Sound much better than the original recording, your mix sound amazing, I think you put drums in the right place.
I think the official recordings should sound like this.
U got that right!!! And lot turnarounds.
Elvin forever!!
Best performance from Elvin as a sideman, tasty & ferocious
The master!!
love the description haha but makes sense :)
Nice job you did here!
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Nice job! Many thanks
Amazing! Thanks.
love it!!
Drives a mean beat
Spititual trip
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🎩👌🏿💫💯🚀
Loved the explanation...
you can bring out the drums even more by working with eq and compression, but it is surely good enough as it is to even better appreciate Elvin's mastery.
I used to do the same with Coltrane's albums when i wanted to better hear what Elvin was doing under Trane's solos since the 2 were often panned hard L/R, i would mute one channel.