What I love here, but only after the enjoyment of his improvisational and unique phrasing on the set, is the few moments of slight sloppy or delayed strokes. I say strokes as it's only fragments of his playing here that sound a slight gritty. I love it because it adds honesty to this particular performance and reminds me of the risks he bravely took when he ventured out on his instrument. You see, he never predetermined such moments and so to hear the search and stretching of his musical imagination at moments is really humanising of him. No one here as I could see has offered a critique of this performance but I am happy to post my noticing of slight errs that more than anything demonstrated the all in approach he had on the instrument. Today many practice to such a point that anything played would never sound off but unfortunately would also sound drilled and not unique to that moment. Philly sounded crisp whilst always appropriate and unique to that moment and when he erred even the slightest the theme and intention was what the listener recalled , not the slight grit. More difficult still ,though, was his ability to resume perfect pulse even after slips. This was because the pulse was always strong in him, and the slight slips (at the end of some phrases he played here, fleeting moments to note)were the product of trial and error of phrasing. Really refreshing when musicians try stuff live that's new. Those musicians need the right audience, the one that listens actively and not passively ya dig?
Yes! I have finally seen a drummer accent the 2nd stroke of a double stroke roll--2:17. i was taught this many years ago by a big band drummer. I talked about it with other drummers and they thought I was crazy. But here it is.
Tony did it too with double stroke rolls. To me, any other way raises the risk of uneven rolls. You have to push a bit of an accent on the second stroke to get it even and flowing. Freddy Gruber taught doing it with a bit of an upswing with the right hand on the second stroke. But correctlyTony had it down in both hands.
He is actually doing three strokes per hand :) that why he moves his hands forward to get multiple rebounds. You can heart it clearly slowing down the video
You know you have Light Weight Bantam Weight Metal Drummers and you have the HEAVY WEIGHT DRUMMERS Philly Joes was most DEFINITELY A HEAVY WEIGHT DRUMMER. Buddy Rich loved him and Philly dug and respected Buddy all the way You take this particular solo of Philly Joes in this session you hear those IDEAS and Phrasings of Philly Joe. He left an impact on jazz drumming. No doubt about that. He played with AUTHORITY and when he wanted to tell you a drum solo story he did it like only Phily Joe could. He had his own style the Philly Joe style. Like Max Roach Joe Morello Louie Bellson and Buddy Rich he made a style that was his style Exciting Dominant you could listen and watch this 50 years from today and still it would hold up as FABULOUS
Ray Szymarek I look at the list of guys that wanted him on their stage and their records...the list is so long it would look silly here. In the post-bop period nobody was cooler.
+Ray Szymarek I mean honestly the man was one of the best that ever lived. the man even beat up the set like in this video he literally elbows the hi-hat and punches the snare. literally the greatest.
+Ray Szymarek Good comment :: If you check the whole body weight of Philly JJ's discography you will truly be awestruck by all the different ad hoc groups he played with...
@spr95que Honestly Philly Joe used to go to Brooklyn on Mondays on Monroe St to hang and study with Max back in the day. I think when you are true masters like those guys it boils down to opinion on who is better. I LOVE Max!! Philly Joe was my personal favorite
One of the best, most interesting drum solo's I've ever come across. Great technique, tuning; could hold peoples attention on edge. What a drum solo should be.
Philly Joe's solo would have been even more interesting if shown IN THE MUSICAL CONEXT of what came before it. young Tony Williams once said that Philly Joe played things on the drums that "you can't play!"
I've listened to a lot of great drummers, but for solo work, I love Phillie joe right next to Buddy Rich. Both of them could just keep you sitting on the edge of your seat with a solo.
buddy was one of philly joe's favourite drummers. he was also quoted as saying that if any drummer didn't pay attention when bernard rich got up on his throne that they were going through life with their head up their ass. i would have to agree with that asessmant.
Buddy is also on record praising Philly Jones and Max Roach. You gotta love BR! I've always preferred Philly and Max for their versatility and dynamic range but Buddy Rich is undeniable
also, if you look up what a beginners drums set should be, this is it. Eventually one would graduate to something more substantial and more difficult to play, like Alex Van Halen, Ronnie Tutt, Neil Peart, just to name a few...
I sure do miss you,Joe and Eloise in Germantown Philadelphia in the 80's when me and your long lost son Chris Jones arrived at your doorstep,The greatest memories of a lifetime.By the way Joe you've got a grandson now his name is Christian Jones .So the Jones name will live on.
My all time favorite drummer. He was a genius. Innovative as can be. He left a HUGE mark in the history of jazz. Nobody (just in my opinion) could swing like him. He had a wide cymbal beat that was always bouncin. He and Paul Chambers together with anybody could make Mickey Mouse swing. Plus total command over the drums especially in his peak period mid 50's-early 60's. Long live Philly Joe!!
Philly Joe is just poetry in motion. A young Marc Johnson sharing the stage with the likes of Bill Evans and Philly Joe Jones... one of the reasons he became such a Master musician himself!
Yeah, I miss this type of stuff. When "drum solos" were musical. And they were usually created as they were playing. These days you see drum solos and they are mostly all chops related and most of the times they have been rehearsed before, so there is no flow. This is real.
Bill Evans made no secret of the fact that Philly Joe was one of his very favorite drummers. Both were members of Miles' first great working band, Bil chose him for his first LPs, and often hired him for live gigs. There's a multi-CD set of a NYer who recorded dozens of nights of Bill's trio at the Vanguard, and Philly Joe is the drummer on some of the most musically satisfying. Marc Johnson looks REALLY young. www.discogs.com/Bill-Evans-The-Secret-Sessions-Recorded-At-The-Village-Vanguard-1966-1975/release/8674583
Beautiful tone to his toms; that snare sounds like a gun going off but just enough sizzle there on the finesse ruffs and rolls. So Precisie, so musicali, power and technique....Has it all
...this is so special , always one of my special influences , brush player of note ( Billy Boy , Miles Davis) resolves cross sticking on toms with definitive crash cymbal (2/44 ) amazing thanks for sharing ,didn't know he was playing over Nadis (Miles Davis) of course Bill Evans and Marc Johnson need I say more ''one of a kind ''
Thanks! I knew these 3 had worked together but I did not know of any recordings. Bill & Philly Joe worked together off & on for over 20 years. It would be great if someone could document their working relationship, they must have had a lot of respect for each other.
And Philly Joe was one of Buddy’s favorite drummers as well. The only drummer I heard Buddy not like was Art. I really don’t see why either. Maybe cause Art played more African sounding and less technical. Though, once the 70’s drummers came along...Buddy did not care for any drummer that played matched grip at all. Change was hard for him to accept. As I get older, I get it too.
Philly Joe had awesome technique and always played great. I love his recordings with Miles Davis they to me are the best! I loved Paul Motian with Bill Evans a little more I think.
..My father Odean Pope got a me set of Black Gretsch drums From Philly Joe Jones in the late 60s . It was a pleasure meeting him
What I love here, but only after the enjoyment of his improvisational and unique phrasing on the set, is the few moments of slight sloppy or delayed strokes. I say strokes as it's only fragments of his playing here that sound a slight gritty. I love it because it adds honesty to this particular performance and reminds me of the risks he bravely took when he ventured out on his instrument. You see, he never predetermined such moments and so to hear the search and stretching of his musical imagination at moments is really humanising of him. No one here as I could see has offered a critique of this performance but I am happy to post my noticing of slight errs that more than anything demonstrated the all in approach he had on the instrument. Today many practice to such a point that anything played would never sound off but unfortunately would also sound drilled and not unique to that moment. Philly sounded crisp whilst always appropriate and unique to that moment and when he erred even the slightest the theme and intention was what the listener recalled , not the slight grit. More difficult still ,though, was his ability to resume perfect pulse even after slips. This was because the pulse was always strong in him, and the slight slips (at the end of some phrases he played here, fleeting moments to note)were the product of trial and error of phrasing. Really refreshing when musicians try stuff live that's new. Those musicians need the right audience, the one that listens actively and not passively ya dig?
Amen!
Philly Joe is Bill Evans' all time favorite drummer.
Bill never played his very best with Philly Joe!
Yes! I have finally seen a drummer accent the 2nd stroke of a double stroke roll--2:17. i was taught this many years ago by a big band drummer. I talked about it with other drummers and they thought I was crazy. But here it is.
Tony did it too with double stroke rolls. To me, any other way raises the risk of uneven rolls. You have to push a bit of an accent on the second stroke to get it even and flowing. Freddy Gruber taught doing it with a bit of an upswing with the right hand on the second stroke. But correctlyTony had it down in both hands.
I suck at doing the second accent ! i need to get to practicing
He is actually doing three strokes per hand :) that why he moves his hands forward to get multiple rebounds. You can heart it clearly slowing down the video
One of the best drummers of all time !
You know you have Light Weight Bantam Weight Metal Drummers and you have the HEAVY WEIGHT DRUMMERS Philly Joes was most DEFINITELY A HEAVY WEIGHT DRUMMER. Buddy Rich loved him and Philly dug and respected Buddy all the way You take this particular solo of Philly Joes in this session you hear those IDEAS and Phrasings of Philly Joe. He left an impact on jazz drumming. No doubt about that. He played with AUTHORITY and when he wanted to tell you a drum solo story he did it like only Phily Joe could. He had his own style the Philly Joe style. Like Max Roach Joe Morello Louie Bellson and Buddy Rich he made a style that was his style Exciting Dominant you could listen and watch this 50 years from today and still it would hold up as FABULOUS
Ray Szymarek I look at the list of guys that wanted him on their stage and their records...the list is so long it would look silly here. In the post-bop period nobody was cooler.
+Ray Szymarek I mean honestly the man was one of the best that ever lived. the man even beat up the set like in this video he literally elbows the hi-hat and punches the snare. literally the greatest.
+Ray Szymarek Good comment :: If you check the whole body weight of Philly JJ's discography you will truly be awestruck by all the different ad hoc groups he played with...
Yep and as of now, 13 light weights disliked this video of the Master Philly Joe Jones.
@spr95que Honestly Philly Joe used to go to Brooklyn on Mondays on Monroe St to hang and study with Max back in the day. I think when you are true masters like those guys it boils down to opinion on who is better. I LOVE Max!! Philly Joe was my personal favorite
One of the best, most interesting drum solo's I've ever come across. Great technique, tuning; could hold peoples attention on edge. What a drum solo should be.
Beautiful, artful, drumming. Beautiful sounding drums.
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It's called making music with drums - nearly a lost art. Hope
kids watch this great master at work.
Amazing and beautiful!
Salute to Philly Joe. Man, Jazz personified!
Philly Joe's solo would have been even more interesting if shown IN THE MUSICAL CONEXT of what came before it.
young Tony Williams once said that Philly Joe played things on the drums that "you can't play!"
Well, this is MY favorite drummer. Just totally fresh and cool and like nothing before or since.
Evans is in a trance watching Joe play.
Beautiful!
Swinging Philly, Joe Jones, the old school deal
So effortless. Very cool
Philly Joe Jones is the man!
👍🏾👍🏾
still love it!!
No one sounds better than him!
That HH move at 2:41 in the video is crazy and typical Philly Joe!
Wow!
A Master
That elbow hi hat choke at 2:43. Good stuff.
Drummer of no return
"A música é a voz do infinito."
I've listened to a lot of great drummers, but for solo work, I love Phillie joe right next to Buddy Rich. Both of them could just keep you sitting on the edge of your seat with a solo.
buddy was one of philly joe's favourite drummers. he was also quoted as saying that if any drummer didn't pay attention when bernard rich got up on his throne that they were going through life with their head up their ass. i would have to agree with that asessmant.
Buddy is also on record praising Philly Jones and Max Roach.
You gotta love BR!
I've always preferred Philly and Max for their versatility and dynamic range but Buddy Rich is undeniable
BOING!
Beat out that rhythm on a drum
That basssist on drugs huh
Lmao
how to do that? 2:16
They are double stroke triplets
If someone does not transcribe even with letters (Right-left) what he does in the minute 2:17 ... I kill myself!
Ok on expected chops, but very boring solo.
+Robert E. Tewksbury....Wow! How about throwing a little love Philly's way. I mean, He is Philly Joe Jones. Just a bit disrespectful, no?
Jeffrey Alexander more like idiot.
Shut the fuck up, you know nothing.
also, if you look up what a beginners drums set should be, this is it. Eventually one would graduate to something more substantial and more difficult to play, like Alex Van Halen, Ronnie Tutt, Neil Peart, just to name a few...
Lol! You're a weird guy, ace.
When you're a Legend like Philly JJ,you don't need anything else. Just listen to him.
Dying for some mid-50's Philly Joe vids !!
I'm pretty sure they sadly don't exist
Loved his playing.
Philly Joe was a concept
behind the drums.
I sure do miss you,Joe and Eloise in Germantown Philadelphia in the 80's when me and your long lost son Chris Jones arrived at your doorstep,The greatest memories of a lifetime.By the way Joe you've got a grandson now his name is Christian Jones .So the Jones name will live on.
My all time favorite drummer. He was a genius. Innovative as can be. He left a HUGE mark in the history of jazz. Nobody (just in my opinion) could swing like him. He had a wide cymbal beat that was always bouncin. He and Paul Chambers together with anybody could make Mickey Mouse swing. Plus total command over the drums especially in his peak period mid 50's-early 60's. Long live Philly Joe!!
Totally agree AMEN !!!
Philly Joe is just poetry in motion.
A young Marc Johnson sharing the stage with the likes of Bill Evans and Philly Joe Jones... one of the reasons he became such a Master musician himself!
The Master speaks: we ALL listen. Inspirational.
Yeah, I miss this type of stuff. When "drum solos" were musical. And they were usually created as they were playing. These days you see drum solos and they are mostly all chops related and most of the times they have been rehearsed before, so there is no flow. This is real.
These guys played better on a 4 piece kit, than today's drummers, using their massive, oversized drum sets.
By that logic you are saying Billy Cobham is shit. Hmmmm 🤔
Just different
Its pretty much all you need, but people just add on
CC o 9&,9’ is 😊😊oko😊 😅
Bill Evans made no secret of the fact that Philly Joe was one of his very favorite drummers. Both were members of Miles' first great working band, Bil chose him for his first LPs, and often hired him for live gigs. There's a multi-CD set of a NYer who recorded dozens of nights of Bill's trio at the Vanguard, and Philly Joe is the drummer on some of the most musically satisfying. Marc Johnson looks REALLY young. www.discogs.com/Bill-Evans-The-Secret-Sessions-Recorded-At-The-Village-Vanguard-1966-1975/release/8674583
Stunningly beautiful playing!
Man, I wish I could've seen the full performance. I had no idea Bill Evans had a set with Marc Johnson on bass and Joe Jones.
Beautiful tone to his toms; that snare sounds like a gun going off but just enough sizzle there on the finesse ruffs and rolls. So Precisie, so musicali, power and technique....Has it all
...this is so special , always one of my special influences , brush player of note ( Billy Boy , Miles Davis) resolves cross sticking on toms with definitive crash cymbal (2/44 ) amazing thanks for sharing ,didn't know he was playing over Nadis (Miles Davis) of course Bill Evans and Marc Johnson need I say more ''one of a kind ''
Thanks! I knew these 3 had worked together but I did not know of any recordings. Bill & Philly Joe worked together off & on for over 20 years. It would be great if someone could document their working relationship, they must have had a lot of respect for each other.
Truly one of the greatest drummers of our time.
thats a fast nardis
Please!! Upload the complete video!
@awdpth Buddy's favorite drummer was Chick Webb ~
Can you help me? I can't find the concert anywhere
Wonderful music!
buddy was one of philly joe's favourite drummers.
And Philly Joe was one of Buddy’s favorite drummers as well. The only drummer I heard Buddy not like was Art. I really don’t see why either. Maybe cause Art played more African sounding and less technical. Though, once the 70’s drummers came along...Buddy did not care for any drummer that played matched grip at all. Change was hard for him to accept. As I get older, I get it too.
Philly Joe had awesome technique and always played great.
I love his recordings with Miles Davis they to me are the best!
I loved Paul Motian with Bill Evans a little more I think.
christmas swing from the one and only philly joe jones
Lest we forget Jimmy Cobb.
Yes. His work with I believe
Lee Morgan or Wayne Shorter was superb.
太鼓を鳴らしきってる…☆
You have to earn the right not to use your hi hat...
he definitely earned it.
I love this guy.
Oh my God how I love this musician!!!!
Bass player is Like : "I havent heard anything worse in my life"
is the theme song at the end by zappa or is that just what music sounded like back then
Philly Joe Rudiments are perfectly played
Premier Drums. Those toms wow!
Houllaallaaaa....!!😂😂❤
Bass player had enough
Amazing
Batterista di grandissima classe e gusto. Top!
still love it!!
Harry Mack sent me here
Amazing
fly collar slick
Great! Amen
Badd man
Great solo! White men sweat too much!
Papapoo Do lol
He’s better with the ensemble than soloing. Kind of sloppy. I know he’s a legend.