I'm not in this video, probably because I'm a card that Mitch needs in his life: not a commander. As of this posting, my lowest market price on TCGPlayer is $2.40 for my Duel Decks: Venser vs Koth printing. I definitely need to be reprinted.
People keep talking about how the Boros goat is ridiculously overpowered... But there’s one big thing missing here though. It only applies to damage 2 or greater per source. To get around it you just have to spam 1/1 tokens, Cavalcade of Calamity, Impact Tremors, that sort of thing. Plus other effects like Erebos that can counter life gain strategies. And! Let’s not forget it only applies to damage, not life loss in general. A single Wound Reflection effectively counters all the lifegain, since even though the damage is negated once, they still need additional lifegain to counter additional life loss which would be equal to the amount they took. To be sure, the goat has a pretty strong effect, but even without removal there’s lots of ways to get around the issue. Granted they’re mostly found in black and red. Though on the other hand blue has counter magic, cyclonic rift or bounce, and white/green can be great with the weenie spam, and that all assumes you don’t just run straight up creature removal, whether targeted or as a wipe.
Its actually really slow. I mean its a six mana Commander and the good ability is another 7 mana. Also very prone to removal, because colorless has 1 counterspell and no other protection.
DarkSteelMenace While that’s fair, it would be solid in my play group. We play with a budget of $15, so there isn’t too much to worry about. I think a vehicle theme would be interesting to build with this, leaving them as artifacts in most instances helps them evade removal. Against a counter deck it would certainly fall short, though it wouldn’t be completely out of the game. CEDH is completely different, but that’s a different way to play as it is.
@@noardon1 I can see it at 15$ budget, but in my playgroup it would be destroyed every time (unless everyone ignores it and they fire removal wildly at eachother)
DarkSteelMenace Fair enough, I imagine it wouldn’t last long outside of my play group. I’m currently building a competitive Omnath, the Cheetohfinger, and it suffers from the same issues. Most of my group consist of spellslingers, and they don’t like what the jellybean can do.
The goat is OP. With lifelink on it, you'll never die. It becomes instant target for removal. Either that, or your opponents have to use alternate win-cons. As it is, it is poor design. I may have a solution or two to actually make it fairer. 1) Add the effect: Players can not gain life. Your opponents can't gain life, making group slug more effective. You can't gain life so you have to watch your life points. She does reduce the damage you take, so as long as the other players don't gang up on you, they should die before you. 2) change the effect to The first time you would take 2 or more damage each turn... instead of what it currently is. Since combat damage happens all at once, giving it lifelink will still nullify the combat damage. However, this gives opponents a few ways to maneuver around the damage nullification without just removing your commander. They can utilize first strike, or effect damage to soak up the effect, then hit you with the big damage. Edit: 3) Add the effect This creature can't gain lifelink. You can still add other life gain cards in the deck, but the commander won't shut out combat or effect damage. OP means overpowered not unbeatable. Yes, it can be removed, but that is not a good answer to a commander. When the best way to deal with a commander is to remove it over, and over, and over again, that makes for a boring game. Urza, Kinnan, and Vannifar can all be removed. That doesn't make them any less fun to play against, or any less powerful. I am sure everyone reading this has heard the phrase "I don't have creature removal, but I have player removal" sometime in their life. I would like to dissect that phrase for a moment. I don't have creature removal Despite players putting in removal in their deck, they don't always draw them at the proper time. Sometimes, a player has to use the removal they drew on a threat, only to face another threat next turn. Yes, you can remove the commander, but the opponent will just play it again leaving you back at square one. This is why removing the commander is rarely a good solution. Also, do you think the commander will be the only threat in their deck? I have Player removal When said, that player will have some way of bringing ONE opponent's life down to 0. In most cases, this is done through combat damage. In other cases, it is done through effect damage. With Lifelink on the goat, that damage is meaningless. What would normally be player removal becomes I wasted my cards to keep that opponent at the same amount of life. In short, If you don't have creature removal, you don't have player removal either. That can make for long drawn out games. Some players like that. Others don't. Keep in mind that giving the goat lifelink will not only allow that player to recover any lost damage, but allow them to gain life as they attack their opponents. Meaning, the goat player won't be at 20-30 life, but likely over 40 life. Removing the goat gives players an opportunity to deal damage, but they have to kill that goat player (who has over 40 life) before it comes back to their turn and they replay and re-equip their commander. The goat player may have instant speed removal in their hand to keep a player from combo-ing off and winning. Or worse, they have a stax set-up. If you think everything I've said is wrong, there is a way to prove me wrong. Contact your playgroup. Ask them to build a deck around this commander. Play a few 4+ player games with everyone playing the goat as their commander. This way, everyone will know how it feels to play both with and against the commander. If it is as fair as YOU believe it is, then everyone will love the card and you all can play with it whenever you want. That's the beauty of rule 0. If it is as fair as I believe it is, (aka not fair) You will all be annoyed with it by the second game. Sorry for the long edit.
There are a ton of 2-card combos that are much more egregious than "don't take damage until they deal with this." Niv goes infinite with curiosity. I think it is a fun card as it is, especially in Boros colors..
@@atullis8007 There is a difference between an I win combo and an I can't lose combo. This goat commander creates an I can't lose combo. Have you ever played against a Derevi stacks deck? Once they have their combo up and running, they can't lose. Not losing, doesn't end the game. It just keeps them from not losing for the next 2 hours or until their opponents rage quit.
Its a powerful ability, but easily disrupted. Because a) you can still lose life or die by mill etc and b) its just a creature, one removal and its gone
The card was designed with all this in mind however. It’s easy to remove, it doesn’t have any protection keywords, and it’s still hitting you, so there a lot of ways your opponents can help it kill you. These changes are unnecessary, but A for effort. There’s literally almost no one that plays Magic and sees this and is like, “Yep, that’s OP.” The pitfalls of the card are evident, so your improvements just make it unusable. It goes from fun and memey tier 3 to shit tier unusable garbage. With how hard you’d have crippled it, you could probably get a job at WotC as a R&D team member, since your edit would never see play, just like 75% of the stuff they put out.
To confidant of emrakul, I would add something like "if confidant of emrakul is your commander you may have colorless cards of any color identity in your deck", to be able to play all the ingest cards
No. 1: I would build Confidant of Emrakul faster than I built Omnath. That's awesome value and control on fair abilities. Flavor isn't bad either. Also, Titan's Presence if you run some "smaller" eldrazi. No. 2: The Esper Angel-Demon seems just, jjuuusssttt a tad strong. Good thing it costs 6. Cool design, but I'd consider kill on sight because it's steal and disruption in one. Gyruda is enough. Would I play that commander? ... Yes, probably. XD No. 3: First, it's a goat. possibly the GOATest goat. Great design space. Spook the goat, kicks your shin. No. 4: Herman likes eggs, but not ham. Yeah that's broken. He's really just looking for the AEtherflux Reservoir he dropped on vacation. These are some great designs! Nicely found. My fave is probably a tie between the first three, but I'd lean into the Esper angel-demon if I had to pick only one.
Herman, Beachcomber with Walking Ballista, Vedalken Archmage, and any 0-drop artifact is an infinite draw engine. Cast Ballista from grave for 0, returning the 0-drop to your hand, drawing from Archmage. Ballista dies as a state-based effect, and you can cast the 0-drop for free, getting another draw. Repeat ad infinitum, dropping Lab Man or Thassa's Oracle before the deck out. Really powerful.
Custom Dragon Highlander discord.gg/PdX5jwp Here is a server dedicated to Custom Dragon Highlander, a format of ours that allows for your commander to be a custom card! Only the commander, however. And there is a process for becoming an approved card, so that that way we can help people balance out their creation(s) and make sure no commander is too powerful! The server also has Mitch, from the Commander's Quarters in it. While not an actively talking member, he has featured several designs from this community in his videos. :D
A commander I want to see is a kicker themed commander. It would be a creature that says whenever you cast a spell with kicker, if that spell was not kicked, kick it. Whenever you cast a spell with multikicker, kick it an additional time. I think it would enable some very fun strategies with cards like Rite of Replication and Josu Vess being amazing add ins.
I like Herman's design, but I'd prefer to push it in a different direction to remove the ease at which it goes infinite and instead make it more of an interaction artifact toolbox. At the beginning of your upkeep, mill a card. Once per turn, you may cast an artifact card from your graveyard. As an additional cost to cast spells this way, return an artifact you control to your hand. You may cast artifact spells as though they had flash.
Confidant of Emrakul: This is too strong, not because of Ingest itself, but because it can screw any card that's in exile be to place it in the graveyard or cheat it into play. You can recover anything that was removed into exile, screw with delayed flickers, o-ring-like effects, spells that are castable from exile, or effects that exile cards face-down (since this doesn't have a clause against that). The issue isn't how can it be used to circunvent the effects of your cards but to screw over your opponent's. If this was rephrased entirely around cards exiled with the Confidant would wholeheartedly agree with this design, but repeatedly interacting with any exiled card is a big no, that's threating exile as a second graveyard. Salseen: The only thing that doesn't feel right is the last ability. If the face-down card went into its owner's hand it would be fine (would even argue it could afford a cost reduction then), but as written not only cheats the card into play if its creature but also steals it from an opponent. This on a boardwipe enviroment as EDH is its asking to be removed at first sight, no matter how grouphug-y it is. Petra: This would be fine if it wasn't for Lifelink, preventing noncombat damage or you getting Shroud (that happens in White), and even then would argue it could afford a cost increase. If any of those happens, you cannot lose to damage. That's asking for removal at first sight. Herman: If casting from your graveyard was once each turn this would be fine. As is its busted... and also illegal, as you can't place an artifact you control but don't own into your hand in case that happens. Ignoring that, it goes infinite with any two 0 cmc artifacts.
Thought of a good orzhov card during a dnd campaign. Vault of the orzhova BBWW Legendary artifact. {T}: add WB Mana doesn't empty from your mana pool as steps and phases change. At the beginning of each end step lose two life or sacrifice one permanent for each mana in your mana pool. It gives some ramp to white, and i feel it's good flavor for the guild. Although. Might make it enter tapped?
Interesting manifest artifact to powerfull(have a teshar deck) for eldeazi id add dimir color identity eldrazi in bfz and oog were colored generally and infest was tied primarily to the dimir colors
3:37 My brother and I made a funny 60 card deck that plays with a similar manifest strategy. Causing everyone to manifest creatures is really great with Endless Whispers. The interaction between Endless Whisper and manifested permanents is really awesome. You could either manifest a Leveler which either hits for 10 if you turn it face up or if it dies your opponent exiles their whole library at the end of turn. Which makes it difficult to block if they fear they could get a Leveler as Punishment. But most amazing (and a good reason why it should be included in a commander that let each player manifest) is its interaction with non creature permanents. If your opponent manifests a Planeswalker they have to give it to another player thanks to Endless Whisper. In Commander that wil more likely end in a political situation where the weakest one gets the strongest permanents.
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I have been looking for this video for years because I want to take another look at Petra, now that I have more experience. Covering ALL damage sources seems too OP but it DOES say damage >1. So getting hit with 10 infect attacks can still kill you. I would change the damage minimum to 4... and maybe something to make petra more stubborn and troublesome, like "must block if able". Menace is also helarious.
I made a card where it's WUBRG for a 3/6 Legendary elf devil wizard. His name is Urukyrin, Smiling Doom. He has "when you draw a card, each player puts two basic land card onto the battlefield tapped." He also has, " when Urukyrin, Smiling doom dies, each player returns half his or her land card rounded down to their owners hands."
All of these are very cool and interesting conceptually, but there are clear balance problems with at least two of them (others have already talked about how the goat probably needs to be altered slightly). Herman, Beachcomber can go infinite fairly consistently with a bunch of zero and one mana artifacts that either give mana or card draw to get to the other pieces, lotus petal and mishra's bauble come to mind. Herman's additional cost isn't really a cost but a benefit and his low mana cost does not help his case. If I were to suggest some changes it could be along the lines of increasing the mana cost to at least 4, possibly even 5 cmc, and making the additional cost actually costly rather than an infinite engine and just destroy, exile, or move other artifacts you don't want to somewhere other than your hand. Now, I can see where if you don't build Herman with these infinite artifact loops the deck could be very interesting recycling various artifacts to get different enter/on cast triggers or storm like in the video. I do think Herman is a concept worth revisiting, but as he is currently, he is incredibly overpowered.
herman is totally broken. have 2 0 cost artifacts, where one can sac itself. cast the sac one, get it in the graveyard. cast the normal 0 coster. cast the sac one in the graveyard by returning the other 0 cost card to your hand and then sac it. you can just do that forever, get whatever sac triggers you are getting infinitely or build up an infinite storm counter, either way you win, likely turn 3.
I just wish that Confidant was colorless but it’s activated abilities used blue and black mana respectively. That way you could use the ingest Eldrazi from BFZ/Oath.
The Manifest commander is the coolest by far. It seems like a much less obnoxious Sen Triplets, that actually pushed the deck building in a direction rather than being a generic WUB control deck.
The problem with the Eldrazi commander is that it's colorless; you can't play most of the Eldrazi that actually _have_ ingest, since they're Devoid (i.e. have colored mana cost) I feel like a good Eldrazi commander would have something like Morphon's clause or "you may spend mana as though it were any color to cast colorless spells". It would probably want to be at least Dimir, although adding Green would give you access to most of the good Scion makers, and adding Red will give you access to... honestly nothing too great. White is mostly irrelevant, since the only devoid card with White is Eldrazi Displacer, and I don't think a single blink spell is worth screwing with the consistency of your mana base. I guess it's fine as some kind of funky Artifact Beatdown commander, but what I want to see is someone who can lead the Devoid army better than a shapeshifting cow.
One of my most powerful deck is mizzix (izzet spells) and yea it's solitaire based Got some really good x spells to draw or damage and a lot of big spells that net me so much mana that once I find a couple of the archomancers and something like brass's bounty I get enough draw to win the game Usually by digging for explosion and drawing one person out and alpha striking a second
Damn, that last one yeah. Just skycloud egg and a mox or a crypt goes exponential on storm count and draws your deck, crypt even nets mana. What storm spells are there in blue and white? Never dipped into storm personally
I'm pretty sure that the Petra card reduces ALL damage to only one damage, which doesn't seem to be the intended mechanic. Since it says "a source" and not "a source other than Petra", whenever Petra would replace let's say a lava axe, then Petra would replace the lava axe damage with 4 damage from Itself, then it would replace it with three damage, then two, and then finally one. Might be wrong, but I think that's how it would work as written.
I love these videos haha it'd be awesome if Wizards actually printed some of these. Like Salsen, that seems like a really unique and interesting Commander.
Herman goes infinite with lotus petal/LED and any 0 mana cost artifact. Just play petal, sac it for mana, cast it from graveyard by returning 0 mana cost artifact, cast that artifact again, repeat for infinite mana of any color, then use "egg's" to draw for wincon
I'm still looking for a 5c eldrazi commander that some how works with devoid. I'd love to just pile all the eldrazi in a deck and it some how function 😂
I happened to make one a while back lol Hand of the False Gods 5CC 5/7 Legendary Creature - Eldrazi Avatar Colored Eldrazi spells you cast and colored Eldrazi permanents you control have Devoid (those spells and permanents have no color). WUBRG, tap : Search your library for a non-Legendary Eldrazi creature card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library. That creature gains haste. Return it to your hand at the beginning of the next end step.
@@YGORetroRewind Not a bad design, WUBRG for some of the bigger stuff is pretty fun, though it being both 7cmc and a tap ability means it's unlikely to get chance in my playgroup XD Still, might be inspiration for me to look into making my own design for some casual games, thanks a lot :D
@@cynicritschris4996 I feel like even if you remove the tap from the activation cost, it would still be powerful enough to play while not being super OP.
Pyxis wouldn’t work with the Eldrazi because it exiles face down. You couldn’t target a face down exiled card because you wouldn’t know if it met the restriction
Runed Halo on your own Petra seems hilarious too. Correct me if im wrong, but in addition to commander damage Petra would stop a blightsteel too right?
My personal dream for a legendary elephant: Ondros, Conclave General, 2WG, Elephant Soldier, 2/4. > Whenever a creature an opponent controls deals combat damage to you, if that creature has no memory counters, put a memory counter on it. > Whenever one or more creatures you control attack a player, you may choose a creature that player controls with a memory counter on it. Untap that creature, it must block target creature you control this turn if able. Not necessarily elephant tribal, but it would give me a reason to make an elephant tribal deck. Plus I just like the idea of punishing your opponent for swinging into you, while forcing their evasive creatures to take a retaliatory beating. An elephant never forgets, he will remember the enemies from past battles and send his forces to dish out justice.
I swear ingest was so cool and flavourful. Hopefully they make something like the confidant of emrakul thing either on return to zendikar or its edh decks.
It's not a matter of whether it's broken, it's that if you gain control of someone else's artifact and return it to your hand... You're playing Ante-era Magic
are you sure petra can't deal commander damage? It's a replacement effect, so if you take combat damage from another source that's replaced by Petra, that damage could also be combat damage. But honestly, i can't find a single case where the source of combat damage is replaced by another, so i'm having a really difficult time finding a ruling on it.
Combat damage is specifically from having a creature attack and dealing damage with its power, Petra replacing combat damage would turn it into ability damage. Effectively, the original attack is negated and replaced with Petra's damage ability
Confidant of Emrakul: colourless colour identity is harsh. It's an interesting card, at least. The name does not feel legendary, but that's a minor thing. More or less XD Salsen, Angelic Outcast: First, this is a nice way to actually NOT help your opponents, while seemingly helping them. That's acceptable. Ixidron NEEDS to be here XD Returning your creatures to your hand is a nice theme to have here. There are no ways to gain more combat steps in these colours, but blue has extra turn spells that can act the same way. Then a lot of removal is needed... ok, it's an interesting commander! Petra, the Ever-Culpable: If it dealt less damage to your creatures (or even permaments!) it would have been better. BUT. As Mitch says, there is MORE to this commander than what the surface shows. Not dying to voltron is a nice thing, for example. Giving it lifelink or similar abilities can be absolutely interesting, coupled with self damaging cards and group slug. Something different to build, albeit the risk of having only ONE way to build it is real. Herman, Beachcomber: More goodstuff/etb themed than Petra. It does NOT have a limit of artifact that can be cast and that might be a problem. It's worse than Jhoira because it does not draw by itself, BUT with 2/3 cards, it can go infinite. Stil, you have to find those cards. Luckly, from the top of my mind at least, those cards can be substituted with others, so you have 2/3 cards for EACH spot of the combo to work with. That's better. Not a small package by any means, but at least you have redundancy.
Salsen Is the one I'd build. They seem great. I say They because Demons are almost always male in MTG and Angels are almost always female... So my headcanon is they're bigendered. WHICH WE DON'T HAVE A BIGENDERED CHARACTER IN MTG! Also they're abilities are great. Really cool build around. I think you missed a fantastic include in Brainstorm. Top deck manipulation seems perfect for a deck like this.
I want a colorless legendary Eldrazi that allows creatures will Devoid to be played in the deck. For flavour reasons, these creatures are all colorless. If that doesn't sit well, just give the legendary a series of abilities that have every single color, so it's a colorless commander with a five color identity.
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fairly new magic player here, is there an actual difference between the colorless mana with the little diamonds, and the colorless mana with the numbers? it's always kind of confusing when i see an eldrazi with both of them in their casting cost
I love the command zone, but your channel is for the Everyman, please keep it up, not everyone can afford mana crypt ey! If i need commander help, I would turn towards you!
If anyone cares: cards exiled face down have no properties so you could use the draw ability of the eldrazi but not the creature ability with face down cards in exile.
Wizards should do a thing every year or so where the community votes fanmade cards into a set and as long as each card gets approved by wizards those cards will be properly printed and be legal in certain formats like commander and legacy or something.
Hey Mitch! I love your content and I really value the effect you've had on my play group and the community as a whole. I'm currently working on my first custom card ever. I'd like it to be something like Kenrith's Informant, preferably in Esper colors for flavor. You play Kenrith, so I assume you'd have some ideas? What mechanics would work really well with Kenrith if this card was in a Kenrith deck, but still be flavorful and effective as a Commander on its own?
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I'm not in this video, probably because I'm a card that Mitch needs in his life: not a commander.
As of this posting, my lowest market price on TCGPlayer is $2.40 for my Duel Decks: Venser vs Koth printing. I definitely need to be reprinted.
I just realized I had about 20 of you this past week. I was quite pleased.
The hero we need cheaper
Brendan Pharo-Clamp now build 20 commander decks! Once you have wayfarer’s bauble, the deck pretty much builds itself.
LOL
I would LOVE to see you on prerelease but I am not so sure about that
I saw a Legendary Eldrazi and all I can say is yes I want it.
I wish it had colour though (all 6 symbols) to use all the devoid eldrazi with ingest.
same im trying to make a colorless deck right now but idk what direction i want to take it
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People keep talking about how the Boros goat is ridiculously overpowered... But there’s one big thing missing here though. It only applies to damage 2 or greater per source. To get around it you just have to spam 1/1 tokens, Cavalcade of Calamity, Impact Tremors, that sort of thing. Plus other effects like Erebos that can counter life gain strategies. And! Let’s not forget it only applies to damage, not life loss in general. A single Wound Reflection effectively counters all the lifegain, since even though the damage is negated once, they still need additional lifegain to counter additional life loss which would be equal to the amount they took. To be sure, the goat has a pretty strong effect, but even without removal there’s lots of ways to get around the issue. Granted they’re mostly found in black and red. Though on the other hand blue has counter magic, cyclonic rift or bounce, and white/green can be great with the weenie spam, and that all assumes you don’t just run straight up creature removal, whether targeted or as a wipe.
The last time I was this early bauble was less than a buck
I miss those days.
Wayfarer's bauble costs 0,01 Euro in my country
@@rb4121 which country?
Halfjack Germany
@@halfjack2758 all of europe
I really want a boros commander that just sais: Whenever a creature you control attacking causes an ability to trigger, copy that ability.
Aurelia pretty much does this already, just in a different way while being more useful overall.
That's an amazing idea!
Thats look a boros thing.
JmLyan yeah, double attack steps is much much more powerful than double triggers
@@JmLyan @sheesh yeah, the effect is more powerfull, and that's why it's on a 6cmc creature. A weaker effect allows for lower cmc, which I prefer.
Loving these custom commanders! Ingest Tribal sounds so overpowered if played correctly.
Its actually really slow. I mean its a six mana Commander and the good ability is another 7 mana. Also very prone to removal, because colorless has 1 counterspell and no other protection.
DarkSteelMenace While that’s fair, it would be solid in my play group. We play with a budget of $15, so there isn’t too much to worry about. I think a vehicle theme would be interesting to build with this, leaving them as artifacts in most instances helps them evade removal. Against a counter deck it would certainly fall short, though it wouldn’t be completely out of the game. CEDH is completely different, but that’s a different way to play as it is.
@@noardon1 I can see it at 15$ budget, but in my playgroup it would be destroyed every time (unless everyone ignores it and they fire removal wildly at eachother)
DarkSteelMenace Fair enough, I imagine it wouldn’t last long outside of my play group. I’m currently building a competitive Omnath, the Cheetohfinger, and it suffers from the same issues. Most of my group consist of spellslingers, and they don’t like what the jellybean can do.
@@noardon1 Which one is cheetofinger? Not familiar with that nickname. The temur one?
The goat is OP. With lifelink on it, you'll never die. It becomes instant target for removal. Either that, or your opponents have to use alternate win-cons. As it is, it is poor design. I may have a solution or two to actually make it fairer.
1) Add the effect: Players can not gain life.
Your opponents can't gain life, making group slug more effective. You can't gain life so you have to watch your life points. She does reduce the damage you take, so as long as the other players don't gang up on you, they should die before you.
2) change the effect to The first time you would take 2 or more damage each turn... instead of what it currently is. Since combat damage happens all at once, giving it lifelink will still nullify the combat damage. However, this gives opponents a few ways to maneuver around the damage nullification without just removing your commander. They can utilize first strike, or effect damage to soak up the effect, then hit you with the big damage.
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3) Add the effect This creature can't gain lifelink. You can still add other life gain cards in the deck, but the commander won't shut out combat or effect damage.
OP means overpowered not unbeatable. Yes, it can be removed, but that is not a good answer to a commander. When the best way to deal with a commander is to remove it over, and over, and over again, that makes for a boring game. Urza, Kinnan, and Vannifar can all be removed. That doesn't make them any less fun to play against, or any less powerful.
I am sure everyone reading this has heard the phrase "I don't have creature removal, but I have player removal" sometime in their life. I would like to dissect that phrase for a moment.
I don't have creature removal
Despite players putting in removal in their deck, they don't always draw them at the proper time. Sometimes, a player has to use the removal they drew on a threat, only to face another threat next turn. Yes, you can remove the commander, but the opponent will just play it again leaving you back at square one. This is why removing the commander is rarely a good solution. Also, do you think the commander will be the only threat in their deck?
I have Player removal
When said, that player will have some way of bringing ONE opponent's life down to 0. In most cases, this is done through combat damage. In other cases, it is done through effect damage. With Lifelink on the goat, that damage is meaningless. What would normally be player removal becomes I wasted my cards to keep that opponent at the same amount of life.
In short, If you don't have creature removal, you don't have player removal either. That can make for long drawn out games. Some players like that. Others don't.
Keep in mind that giving the goat lifelink will not only allow that player to recover any lost damage, but allow them to gain life as they attack their opponents. Meaning, the goat player won't be at 20-30 life, but likely over 40 life. Removing the goat gives players an opportunity to deal damage, but they have to kill that goat player (who has over 40 life) before it comes back to their turn and they replay and re-equip their commander. The goat player may have instant speed removal in their hand to keep a player from combo-ing off and winning. Or worse, they have a stax set-up.
If you think everything I've said is wrong, there is a way to prove me wrong. Contact your playgroup. Ask them to build a deck around this commander. Play a few 4+ player games with everyone playing the goat as their commander. This way, everyone will know how it feels to play both with and against the commander. If it is as fair as YOU believe it is, then everyone will love the card and you all can play with it whenever you want. That's the beauty of rule 0. If it is as fair as I believe it is, (aka not fair) You will all be annoyed with it by the second game.
Sorry for the long edit.
Like the second idea. Then it is not instant combo like what happened to zirda.
There are a ton of 2-card combos that are much more egregious than "don't take damage until they deal with this." Niv goes infinite with curiosity. I think it is a fun card as it is, especially in Boros colors..
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There is a difference between an I win combo and an I can't lose combo. This goat commander creates an I can't lose combo.
Have you ever played against a Derevi stacks deck? Once they have their combo up and running, they can't lose. Not losing, doesn't end the game. It just keeps them from not losing for the next 2 hours or until their opponents rage quit.
Its a powerful ability, but easily disrupted. Because a) you can still lose life or die by mill etc and b) its just a creature, one removal and its gone
The card was designed with all this in mind however. It’s easy to remove, it doesn’t have any protection keywords, and it’s still hitting you, so there a lot of ways your opponents can help it kill you. These changes are unnecessary, but A for effort.
There’s literally almost no one that plays Magic and sees this and is like, “Yep, that’s OP.” The pitfalls of the card are evident, so your improvements just make it unusable. It goes from fun and memey tier 3 to shit tier unusable garbage. With how hard you’d have crippled it, you could probably get a job at WotC as a R&D team member, since your edit would never see play, just like 75% of the stuff they put out.
Last time i was this early. The old intro song was playing lmao.
To confidant of emrakul, I would add something like "if confidant of emrakul is your commander you may have colorless cards of any color identity in your deck", to be able to play all the ingest cards
Also, I’m LOVING the new intro
I miss the old intro song though.
Hexproof Anarchist SAME!!!!!
Yeah, bring back the old intro.
No. 1: I would build Confidant of Emrakul faster than I built Omnath. That's awesome value and control on fair abilities. Flavor isn't bad either. Also, Titan's Presence if you run some "smaller" eldrazi.
No. 2: The Esper Angel-Demon seems just, jjuuusssttt a tad strong. Good thing it costs 6. Cool design, but I'd consider kill on sight because it's steal and disruption in one. Gyruda is enough. Would I play that commander? ... Yes, probably. XD
No. 3: First, it's a goat. possibly the GOATest goat. Great design space. Spook the goat, kicks your shin.
No. 4: Herman likes eggs, but not ham. Yeah that's broken. He's really just looking for the AEtherflux Reservoir he dropped on vacation.
These are some great designs! Nicely found. My fave is probably a tie between the first three, but I'd lean into the Esper angel-demon if I had to pick only one.
Herman, Beachcomber with Walking Ballista, Vedalken Archmage, and any 0-drop artifact is an infinite draw engine. Cast Ballista from grave for 0, returning the 0-drop to your hand, drawing from Archmage. Ballista dies as a state-based effect, and you can cast the 0-drop for free, getting another draw. Repeat ad infinitum, dropping Lab Man or Thassa's Oracle before the deck out. Really powerful.
I have one deck am planning to get zendikar precons and build a deck from one of the 70 new ledgendaries from comander ledgends
"Sees video title... Sees the first 2 commanders..."
Jeez, stop stealing my stuff, why do you need that in your life!?
sure i wont need them
The goat commander is awesome with a circle of protection you have a backup if you don't have a card to give it lifelink
Custom Dragon Highlander
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Here is a server dedicated to Custom Dragon Highlander, a format of ours that allows for your commander to be a custom card! Only the commander, however. And there is a process for becoming an approved card, so that that way we can help people balance out their creation(s) and make sure no commander is too powerful! The server also has Mitch, from the Commander's Quarters in it. While not an actively talking member, he has featured several designs from this community in his videos. :D
A commander I want to see is a kicker themed commander. It would be a creature that says whenever you cast a spell with kicker, if that spell was not kicked, kick it. Whenever you cast a spell with multikicker, kick it an additional time. I think it would enable some very fun strategies with cards like Rite of Replication and Josu Vess being amazing add ins.
I like this series as much as the regular content on this channel.
I like Herman's design, but I'd prefer to push it in a different direction to remove the ease at which it goes infinite and instead make it more of an interaction artifact toolbox.
At the beginning of your upkeep, mill a card.
Once per turn, you may cast an artifact card from your graveyard. As an additional cost to cast spells this way, return an artifact you control to your hand.
You may cast artifact spells as though they had flash.
Confidant of Emrakul: This is too strong, not because of Ingest itself, but because it can screw any card that's in exile be to place it in the graveyard or cheat it into play. You can recover anything that was removed into exile, screw with delayed flickers, o-ring-like effects, spells that are castable from exile, or effects that exile cards face-down (since this doesn't have a clause against that). The issue isn't how can it be used to circunvent the effects of your cards but to screw over your opponent's. If this was rephrased entirely around cards exiled with the Confidant would wholeheartedly agree with this design, but repeatedly interacting with any exiled card is a big no, that's threating exile as a second graveyard.
Salseen: The only thing that doesn't feel right is the last ability. If the face-down card went into its owner's hand it would be fine (would even argue it could afford a cost reduction then), but as written not only cheats the card into play if its creature but also steals it from an opponent. This on a boardwipe enviroment as EDH is its asking to be removed at first sight, no matter how grouphug-y it is.
Petra: This would be fine if it wasn't for Lifelink, preventing noncombat damage or you getting Shroud (that happens in White), and even then would argue it could afford a cost increase. If any of those happens, you cannot lose to damage. That's asking for removal at first sight.
Herman: If casting from your graveyard was once each turn this would be fine. As is its busted... and also illegal, as you can't place an artifact you control but don't own into your hand in case that happens. Ignoring that, it goes infinite with any two 0 cmc artifacts.
Thought of a good orzhov card during a dnd campaign.
Vault of the orzhova BBWW
Legendary artifact.
{T}: add WB
Mana doesn't empty from your mana pool as steps and phases change.
At the beginning of each end step lose two life or sacrifice one permanent for each mana in your mana pool.
It gives some ramp to white, and i feel it's good flavor for the guild. Although. Might make it enter tapped?
Love the Incredibles reference on Petra
Interesting manifest artifact to powerfull(have a teshar deck) for eldeazi id add dimir color identity eldrazi in bfz and oog were colored generally and infest was tied primarily to the dimir colors
3:37 My brother and I made a funny 60 card deck that plays with a similar manifest strategy. Causing everyone to manifest creatures is really great with Endless Whispers.
The interaction between Endless Whisper and manifested permanents is really awesome. You could either manifest a Leveler which either hits for 10 if you turn it face up or if it dies your opponent exiles their whole library at the end of turn. Which makes it difficult to block if they fear they could get a Leveler as Punishment.
But most amazing (and a good reason why it should be included in a commander that let each player manifest) is its interaction with non creature permanents. If your opponent manifests a Planeswalker they have to give it to another player thanks to Endless Whisper. In Commander that wil more likely end in a political situation where the weakest one gets the strongest permanents.
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@@Alino- Thank you for the offer. I have to look if I find the time to do so. ATM I can't spend as much time on playing magic or the game in general.
I have been looking for this video for years because I want to take another look at Petra, now that I have more experience.
Covering ALL damage sources seems too OP but it DOES say damage >1. So getting hit with 10 infect attacks can still kill you.
I would change the damage minimum to 4... and maybe something to make petra more stubborn and troublesome, like "must block if able".
Menace is also helarious.
It just occured to me that you are the Jeff from Athlean-X, but for Commander! Love your channel Mitch!
I made a card where it's WUBRG for a 3/6 Legendary elf devil wizard. His name is Urukyrin, Smiling Doom. He has "when you draw a card, each player puts two basic land card onto the battlefield tapped." He also has, " when Urukyrin, Smiling doom dies, each player returns half his or her land card rounded down to their owners hands."
All of these are very cool and interesting conceptually, but there are clear balance problems with at least two of them (others have already talked about how the goat probably needs to be altered slightly). Herman, Beachcomber can go infinite fairly consistently with a bunch of zero and one mana artifacts that either give mana or card draw to get to the other pieces, lotus petal and mishra's bauble come to mind. Herman's additional cost isn't really a cost but a benefit and his low mana cost does not help his case. If I were to suggest some changes it could be along the lines of increasing the mana cost to at least 4, possibly even 5 cmc, and making the additional cost actually costly rather than an infinite engine and just destroy, exile, or move other artifacts you don't want to somewhere other than your hand. Now, I can see where if you don't build Herman with these infinite artifact loops the deck could be very interesting recycling various artifacts to get different enter/on cast triggers or storm like in the video. I do think Herman is a concept worth revisiting, but as he is currently, he is incredibly overpowered.
WHY PETRA IS SO CUTE ??? WoTC please print it, I NEED IT IN MY LIFE !!!!!
I would definitely build around Petra 😁
A Boros Commander that isn't just about attacking is always a good idea
herman is totally broken. have 2 0 cost artifacts, where one can sac itself. cast the sac one, get it in the graveyard. cast the normal 0 coster. cast the sac one in the graveyard by returning the other 0 cost card to your hand and then sac it. you can just do that forever, get whatever sac triggers you are getting infinitely or build up an infinite storm counter, either way you win, likely turn 3.
I just wish that Confidant was colorless but it’s activated abilities used blue and black mana respectively. That way you could use the ingest Eldrazi from BFZ/Oath.
Some unique cards this time around. Love it.
The Manifest commander is the coolest by far.
It seems like a much less obnoxious Sen Triplets, that actually pushed the deck building in a direction rather than being a generic WUB control deck.
I absolutely wish that Confidant of Emrakul would be a real thing!
another thing to look at with Petra would be cards like The Wanderer where noncombat damage is prevented outright.
Love Petra and Herman. I am currently building a Herman(ish) deck using Feather, the Redeemed
The problem with the Eldrazi commander is that it's colorless; you can't play most of the Eldrazi that actually _have_ ingest, since they're Devoid (i.e. have colored mana cost)
I feel like a good Eldrazi commander would have something like Morphon's clause or "you may spend mana as though it were any color to cast colorless spells". It would probably want to be at least Dimir, although adding Green would give you access to most of the good Scion makers, and adding Red will give you access to... honestly nothing too great. White is mostly irrelevant, since the only devoid card with White is Eldrazi Displacer, and I don't think a single blink spell is worth screwing with the consistency of your mana base.
I guess it's fine as some kind of funky Artifact Beatdown commander, but what I want to see is someone who can lead the Devoid army better than a shapeshifting cow.
I'm surprised, no notification on this one but still within 15 mins...nice
One of my most powerful deck is mizzix (izzet spells) and yea it's solitaire based
Got some really good x spells to draw or damage and a lot of big spells that net me so much mana that once I find a couple of the archomancers and something like brass's bounty I get enough draw to win the game
Usually by digging for explosion and drawing one person out and alpha striking a second
Defiantly going to build the eldrazi deck and play around with it on table top simulator.
Damn, that last one yeah. Just skycloud egg and a mox or a crypt goes exponential on storm count and draws your deck, crypt even nets mana. What storm spells are there in blue and white? Never dipped into storm personally
Apart from the one he mentioned, aetherflux reservoir and brain freeze can win the game with infinite storm count.
I'm pretty sure that the Petra card reduces ALL damage to only one damage, which doesn't seem to be the intended mechanic.
Since it says "a source" and not "a source other than Petra", whenever Petra would replace let's say a lava axe, then Petra would replace the lava axe damage with 4 damage from Itself, then it would replace it with three damage, then two, and then finally one.
Might be wrong, but I think that's how it would work as written.
It says "if another source", that "another" excludes Petra and thus prevents the infinite damage recursion.
@@maxxiderrick91 Ah, you right
Thanks mate.
I love these videos haha it'd be awesome if Wizards actually printed some of these. Like Salsen, that seems like a really unique and interesting Commander.
I can't do eldrazi without the colored devoid cards, but it needs a very specific 5cmc devoid commander
Hey Mitch! Can you check out the “enigma” cycle of custom commanders? There are some AWSOME concepts in there!
What would be a fair version of solitaire commander ? I wanna build a pirate deck and the art looks great as a commander.
Love the series
Even more crazy stuff about petra, it basically negates infect
Herman goes infinite with lotus petal/LED and any 0 mana cost artifact. Just play petal, sac it for mana, cast it from graveyard by returning 0 mana cost artifact, cast that artifact again, repeat for infinite mana of any color, then use "egg's" to draw for wincon
The Herman allows you to get infinite Mana with lotus petal and sol ring as early as turn 1
Yeah thatd be a VERY annoying cEDH commander
(But id totally build it lol)
I'm still looking for a 5c eldrazi commander that some how works with devoid. I'd love to just pile all the eldrazi in a deck and it some how function 😂
I happened to make one a while back lol
Hand of the False Gods
5CC
5/7
Legendary Creature - Eldrazi Avatar
Colored Eldrazi spells you cast and colored Eldrazi permanents you control have Devoid (those spells and permanents have no color).
WUBRG, tap : Search your library for a non-Legendary Eldrazi creature card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library. That creature gains haste. Return it to your hand at the beginning of the next end step.
@@YGORetroRewind Not a bad design, WUBRG for some of the bigger stuff is pretty fun, though it being both 7cmc and a tap ability means it's unlikely to get chance in my playgroup XD Still, might be inspiration for me to look into making my own design for some casual games, thanks a lot :D
@@cynicritschris4996 I feel like even if you remove the tap from the activation cost, it would still be powerful enough to play while not being super OP.
An expensive addition to the manifest deck that I think would be busted would be Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Who would say a Goat Boros commander would be one of the cards I want for Wizards to print the most
Pyxis wouldn’t work with the Eldrazi because it exiles face down. You couldn’t target a face down exiled card because you wouldn’t know if it met the restriction
Runed Halo on your own Petra seems hilarious too. Correct me if im wrong, but in addition to commander damage Petra would stop a blightsteel too right?
Herman: Solring to krark iron works, return ornithopter to hand, cast sol ring, repeat
My personal dream for a legendary elephant:
Ondros, Conclave General, 2WG, Elephant Soldier, 2/4.
> Whenever a creature an opponent controls deals combat damage to you, if that creature has no memory counters, put a memory counter on it.
> Whenever one or more creatures you control attack a player, you may choose a creature that player controls with a memory counter on it. Untap that creature, it must block target creature you control this turn if able.
Not necessarily elephant tribal, but it would give me a reason to make an elephant tribal deck. Plus I just like the idea of punishing your opponent for swinging into you, while forcing their evasive creatures to take a retaliatory beating. An elephant never forgets, he will remember the enemies from past battles and send his forces to dish out justice.
I swear ingest was so cool and flavourful. Hopefully they make something like the confidant of emrakul thing either on return to zendikar or its edh decks.
There is actually a whole cycle of commanders that Salsen is a part of, I personally love Reeva, Maniac Mercenary
I'm in love with this eldrazi commander...I WANT IT
I would probably use the 1st comander, maybe 2nd, love playing eldrazi
Herman should read "return an artifact you control to its owner's hand"
Still broken, its just way too easy to draw your deck with that card
It's not a matter of whether it's broken, it's that if you gain control of someone else's artifact and return it to your hand... You're playing Ante-era Magic
@@jx4zntrkvwsn563 a) he wrote “to its owners hand“, b) ante is sth entirely different, you don't get control of a card, you literally own it
Nice eldrazi
are you sure petra can't deal commander damage? It's a replacement effect, so if you take combat damage from another source that's replaced by Petra, that damage could also be combat damage. But honestly, i can't find a single case where the source of combat damage is replaced by another, so i'm having a really difficult time finding a ruling on it.
Combat damage is specifically from having a creature attack and dealing damage with its power, Petra replacing combat damage would turn it into ability damage. Effectively, the original attack is negated and replaced with Petra's damage ability
While none of them are my particular cup of tea... It's nice to see some creative, yet balanced commanders.
WANT THE GOAT FOR MY CASUAL MODERN GOAT DECK. Adorable and frustrating all at the same time. I love it.
Confidant of Emrakul: colourless colour identity is harsh. It's an interesting card, at least. The name does not feel legendary, but that's a minor thing. More or less XD
Salsen, Angelic Outcast: First, this is a nice way to actually NOT help your opponents, while seemingly helping them. That's acceptable. Ixidron NEEDS to be here XD Returning your creatures to your hand is a nice theme to have here. There are no ways to gain more combat steps in these colours, but blue has extra turn spells that can act the same way. Then a lot of removal is needed... ok, it's an interesting commander!
Petra, the Ever-Culpable: If it dealt less damage to your creatures (or even permaments!) it would have been better. BUT. As Mitch says, there is MORE to this commander than what the surface shows. Not dying to voltron is a nice thing, for example. Giving it lifelink or similar abilities can be absolutely interesting, coupled with self damaging cards and group slug. Something different to build, albeit the risk of having only ONE way to build it is real.
Herman, Beachcomber: More goodstuff/etb themed than Petra. It does NOT have a limit of artifact that can be cast and that might be a problem. It's worse than Jhoira because it does not draw by itself, BUT with 2/3 cards, it can go infinite. Stil, you have to find those cards. Luckly, from the top of my mind at least, those cards can be substituted with others, so you have 2/3 cards for EACH spot of the combo to work with. That's better. Not a small package by any means, but at least you have redundancy.
Salsen Is the one I'd build. They seem great. I say They because Demons are almost always male in MTG and Angels are almost always female... So my headcanon is they're bigendered. WHICH WE DON'T HAVE A BIGENDERED CHARACTER IN MTG! Also they're abilities are great. Really cool build around. I think you missed a fantastic include in Brainstorm. Top deck manipulation seems perfect for a deck like this.
that goat looks so fun to build around
I want a colorless legendary Eldrazi that allows creatures will Devoid to be played in the deck. For flavour reasons, these creatures are all colorless.
If that doesn't sit well, just give the legendary a series of abilities that have every single color, so it's a colorless commander with a five color identity.
confidant of emrakul should have the creature type processor. aside from that, the commanders look really cool
👍I know Morphs and Manifest desks are not that powerful but I like them and I spend a lot of time around them and this video gave me a few ideas 😃👍
Ok I have 31 decks but I just cant make a colorless deck, I dont like a commander enough to do it. But that 1st one OHHH BOY!!! I need it
That angel demon looks super fun!
I love the eldrazi one the most!
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@@Alino- dude thanks!
Now I'm not to experienced with discord all the time but I'll check this!
Petra is AWESOME!
I'd go for Eldrazi and Manifest. My wife, on the other hand, would love Lifelink Goats!
New intro 😳 pretty cool!
Awesome cards!
fairly new magic player here, is there an actual difference between the colorless mana with the little diamonds, and the colorless mana with the numbers? it's always kind of confusing when i see an eldrazi with both of them in their casting cost
Imagine the eldrazi one with other colorless exile effects like ugin or Karn
Keep in mind that with Pyxis, you can't tell which cards are creatures because they're exiled facedown.
I love the command zone, but your channel is for the Everyman, please keep it up, not everyone can afford mana crypt ey! If i need commander help, I would turn towards you!
The manifest Commander has an interesting deck building restriction by not having green
Yay! I love custom Commanders
Where’s the best place I can post custom cards?
I’m here, I’m ready!
Where do we put our cards so you can see them?
Where can I propose my custom cards and my friends’ cards to you?
Go infinite easy!
Lotus petal in grave, time piece on field with at least 1 artifact cost reducer!
Hey mitch, I was wondering if you could do a deck tech on a custom commander?
Honestly, i really like all of them except for the artifact storm deck.
That Boros one sounds cool af omg
could you please link the soources of the cards?
If anyone cares: cards exiled face down have no properties so you could use the draw ability of the eldrazi but not the creature ability with face down cards in exile.
Mitch, please make Confidant of Emrakul deck tech. Also, nice intro and video overall
1000% Confidant, I just hate it is completely colorless so you couldn't use the eldrazi that have digest alreafy
Wizards should do a thing every year or so where the community votes fanmade cards into a set and as long as each card gets approved by wizards those cards will be properly printed and be legal in certain formats like commander and legacy or something.
Hey Mitch! I love your content and I really value the effect you've had on my play group and the community as a whole. I'm currently working on my first custom card ever. I'd like it to be something like Kenrith's Informant, preferably in Esper colors for flavor. You play Kenrith, so I assume you'd have some ideas? What mechanics would work really well with Kenrith if this card was in a Kenrith deck, but still be flavorful and effective as a Commander on its own?
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