While rewatching the DOTM, I wished the Battle of Chicago would have been as impactful as the Shibuya Incident from Jujutsu Kaisen. But this rewrite literally made it happen! Good job, Knight! :)
This needs to be animated in some way! Stop Motion, CGI, Live action, I Don’t Care! These rewrites need to stand on TH-cam as the true cinematic Transformers Movies!
Something I find odd about Bayverse Starscream is that he’s the type that always appreciates his master even if he’s abused. At least when Theorymus did his “What if I survived Starscream” video, he at least had Starscream realize that Megatron was a weak and pathetic excuse of a leader and that only Starscream himself could lead the ‘Cons.
I feel like this version of Megatron and Optimus's final battle is much more thematically resonant than Optimus committing a war crime because "let's find out lmao" It's not Optimus who initiates it, but Megatron and his hubris. It turns the final battle of this war into a bit of a gladiator match, which feels like the way Megatron would want to go out. Either he wins and conquers Earth but has to live with the fact that Cybertron is lost once again, or Prime ends him and he gets the last laugh by showing Prime he couldn't solve this war with idealism and Diplomacy. (EDIT: I wrote this before the fight scene was explained and it went pretty much as I expected, including Meg's reaction to his death, which is pretty solid character writing) Of course, a lot of this has to do with a lack of executive meddling, more hindsight, and a bunch of other factors-- I don't really think any of the scriptwriters for 07 or DOTM wanted to tell a bad story, they just didn't get the opportunity to refine these ideas into what they could have been. Writers rarely get the level of respect they need from the production side of film-making, especially for films like these that are seen as little more than money printers by corporate and recruitment propaganda by the Department of Defense (which is why the military features so heavily in 07, ROTF, and DOTM). EDIT 2 (Cybertronium Boogaloo): I really like this interpretation of Sentinel. If the core theme of the DOTM rewrite is "How does war push people to extremes" then Sentinel is very much a solid example of what happens with radicalization and extremism, how someone can think they're in the right and entirely justified despite sacrificing every element of their morality for that goal. It's a good mirror of Megatron and Optimus and how the war changed the both of them. His end is also much more resonant than being executed (despite the original being very meme-worthy) because it's him suffering for his own actions. While Optimus does make a conscious decision to neglect his mentor's wounds and let him bleed out and suffer, it's entirely understandable why he would do that considering Sentinel's actions. It's the furthest possible fall from grace and ends the arc in a way that makes sense.
Love this guy's content. His rewrites are really good, and I'd love to see them as full-scale movies or a series. And his Optimus impression is actually pretty good!
@@KnightsRealm98 Does this rewritten part 3 of your video mention that Optimus and the Autobots allowed the humans to die during Megatron's invasion? Just out of curiosity.
@@etabiansosin No one knew the full scale of Megatron's plan except Soundwave, Shockwave, and Sentinel. All Optimus knew was that he had occupied DC and later Chicago. The invasion was a surprise to everyone (amd Cybertron was an even bigger surprise) . So no, Optimus didn't "allow" anything. There was nothing he could have done to prevent it at that point. All he could do was stop it before it got worse.
When Skids and Ironhide where being killed, I was actually expecting Jetfire to appear and try to fight both Megatron and Sentinel, before being killed by either Megatron or Sentinel
@@KnightsRealm98 Oh, well why was he going over to Washington cause wouldn’t the humans, even if the Decepticons decided not to attack D.C, would’ve found it odd that an aircraft was flying over despite nothing being said about said aircraft
@@LordBumblebee1238 Decepticon activity at first, much like how all the bots were until finding Shockwave at Chernobyl. Then he was basically scouting the enemy, trying to figure out Megs's plan
Knight, this would be a perfect time to add other characters like Ultra Magnus and Elita-One, they would be great to see and even more so for Optimus’s Character Development after Sentinel’s Betrayal and Ironhide’s Death.
0:00 I thought you were gonna do that Beerus meme for a sec. “Hmmmm. It seems you’re an Autobot. I don’t like Autobots very much. Soundwave! Get the Autobot killer!”
Ironically, in an early draft of Bayformers 3, Skids was killed by Sentinel Prime alongside Mudflap. So seeing Skids get killed off here feels like a parallel to what the actual DOTM could’ve been.
What Autobots and Decepticons do you plan to bring in your Sequel Trilogy rewrites (Autobots: Ultra Magnus, Override, Springer, Blurr, Kup, Perceptor, Cliffjumper, Blaster, Prowl, Red Alert (Just in Case if Ratchet gets killed off and Red Alert replaces Ratchet as a Autobot Nurse/Surgeon), Wingblade, The Aerialbots) Decepticons (Knock Out, Breakdown, Trypticon, Astrotrain, Skywarp, Airachnid, Cyclonus, Bludgeon, Swindle, Slipstream, Lugnut, Overload, Tidal Wave, Ratbat, Rumble)
And I think it would be more gruesome if Jazz said what he said to Megatron in the original 2007 film to Soundwave and Soundwave would say what Megatron said and he’d rip Jazz in half more slowly and painfully
Never before has a TH-cam video given me goosebumps quite Iike this, where to start. The debate the autobots had about leaving earth. Megatron’s speech to earth as a whole. Megatron and Optimus saying “one shall stand, one shall fall” at each other. The memorial for ironhide and the other autobots. All phenomenal work! And I like how you still managed to kill off sentinel and Megatron without turning Optimus into a maniac! You have a lot of talent and I hope one day you will gain more recognition.
YO I WAS EXCEPTING JUST IRONHIDE TO DIE SKIDS NOOO! 😭 Edit: SUN STREAKER TOO?! Edit 2: 11:57 Til all are one! Edit 3: 18:36-18:49 Cybertronian anatomy is difficult to understand. Edit 4: Bro you being like the 1986 movie killing off these characters! What's next Optimus? Edit 5: THANK GOD OPTIMUS SURVIVED I WAS THINKING I JINXED MYSELF
@KnightsRealm98 hey this is just an suggestion but, for your rewrite on the bay films or predacon's rising, I have been thinking of predacons fueled by dark energon and surving unicron and they are the first predacon but much more evil
No, it's "the spare Constructicons (Skipjack, Scrapmetal, and Hightower), *comma*, Barricade and Brawl." The spare Constructicons are a separate entity.
"Five Faces of Darkness" FInally a chance to show off the menace of the quintessons. The return of an ancient empire would be an amazing story. (idk if this is correct, I'm just basing a theory off of a title)
@@KnightsRealm98 No surprise there. Cons always got the love from me. Although I am excited to see Age of Extinction and thrill of the hunt as well, I can smell the stakes from miles away. Also a good way to give Cemetery Wind a proper use instead of worthless side faction used to build up plot. (First half they were OK, 2nd half they were lacking)
@@KnightsRealm98 We vibe on a similar level. Though the Quintessons lately have been bumping up lately in my favorite evil faction that isn't just Decepticons but animals or servants of Unicron..... in that regard though The Terrorcons are my favorites.
@@LordBumblebee1238 I never said that he did, but yes. He's a surveillance van. The C-Cons are alive (Mixmaster's in bad shape, though) and left with Soundwave at the end
Gould dies to Sam (probably shot, I didn't really clarify) after unjostling the pillar. Brawl was at least wounded, if not killed (if the Combaticons end up playing a role in future Rewrites, he'll come back). Only the auxiliary Constructicons died (Skipjack, Hightower, and Scrapmetal), but Mixmaster and Long Haul suffered severe injuries (Mix got an axe taken to him by Prime)
@@KnightsRealm98 I feel like that would be too many Transformers Movies to the point where people would start to get bored of it but the choice is yours
@@3000bigrandy Optimus sealed the Fallen's tomb. Unsealing it and reactivating it would run the risk of allowing him to walk free again. Remember, Megatron just touching the console awakened the Fallen and caused the events of that movie. Optimus wants to ensure that that evil remains locked away forever.
OP: Peter Cullen Megs: Frank Welker or Fred Tatasciore Starscream: Charlie Adler or Steve Blum Bee: Johnny Yong Bosch Ironhide: Also Peter Cullen Ratchet: Jim Cummings Soundwave: Also Frank Welker Shockwave: Corey Burton Jazz: Phil Lamarr Arcee: Sumalee Montano or Laura Bailey Chromia: Dana Delany (DCAU Lois Lane) Jetfire: Troy Baker Sideswipe: Nolan North Sunstreaker: Will Friedle Skids: Also Troy Baker The Fallen: Tony Todd Sentinel: Leonard Nimoy Blackout, Thundercracker, and Barricade: David Sobolov Skywarp: John DiMaggio Wheeljack: Sam Riegel Brawl: Travis Willingham Mirage: Liam O'Brien The Constructicons: Fred Tatasciore (Devastator), Travis Willingham, Steve Blum, Kevin Michael Richardson, David Sobolov, Jim Cummings, and John DiMaggio The humans: Whoever can pull it off.
Did you have more scenes planned on Cybertron between Orion and Megatronus or this is the final product? Because I love what you did with their first encounter and do you plan to have more in the future trilogy? Also is that really the end for The emperor of destruction?
I thought about adding one more scene in between the Ark going down and Sentinel betraying/usurping Megatron with Orion and Megatronus. One set just before and during the fateful High Council meeting where Orion is named Optimus and chosen as Sentinel's successor. But the script was a beast already, so I decided against it. I might use it later, though. We'll see. Other flashbacks will happen probably, but likely for other characters. And as for if this is Megatron's end, yes. Just as the Council meeting was the end for Megatronus and leaving the mines was the end for D-16. But all endings are merely beginnings.
4, yes. But I'm splitting it in two. TLK, I'm completely reworking because that movie was complete trash. I have a couple community posts about my plans for the next few.
what i dislike about dotm were sentinel prime betraying the autobots along with killing ironhide, skids and mudflap, the autobots getting exiled, and wheeljack/que's death sentinel prime killing ironhide is why ironhide couldn't appear in transformers prime, prime ironhide is a combination of g1 and bayverse, wheeljack/que's death was originally gonna be mirage/dino's death, dotm's original ending was gonna optimus prime accepting megatron's truce, the both of them kill sentinel, after killing sentinel prime, megs and the remaining decepticons leave earth to rebuild cybertron rid 2015 skids is based off of his g1 counterpart
Could work, but two things. 1. If he's caught, he's dead. One guy in the middle of enemy territory. Plus he has to decloak to actually do anything other than sneak. Considering Sentinel and Megatron are watching the pillar 24/7, chances of getting caught are pretty high. 2., and this is most important, there wouldn't be a story otherwise.
@KnightsRealm98 hmm. Seems a bit flimsy, no? With the hindsight of the existing story, not only would his sacrifice save the fates of several other autobots, it would also line up with the implied arc he has within this rewrite. Sacrifice his own life in the name of peace and maintaining the safety of others (while staying true to his vow of pacifism), in contrast to sentinel who would be willing to mow down entire droves of autobots if it ment cybertrons security. I understand if he couldn't use his Blaster while cloaked but, you telling me he couldn't grab it or do some other thing to confirm it's deactivation while invisible? "Otherwise there wouldn't be a story" borders on a potentially lazy writing handwave. I don't mean this as a jab at all, just picking your brain over this as someone who has enjoyed these.
@@supercanadaeh9483 Again, Sentinel is right there the entire time. Transformers don't need sleep, and Sentinel doesn't trust the Decepticons to watch it. If Mirage grabs it, Sentinel would notice. On top of that, Optimus didn't even know about the full plan until Cybertron showed up. The plan to counterattack had already been made by the time it was active, so Mirage wouldn't have even known to go for the pillar in the first place. And Autobots aren't about assassination, so Optimus wouldn't have just sent him to kill Sentinel either...not that it would have worked if he did, considering that Sentinel's a Prime and tough to kill. Plus, Megatron, Shockwave, and Soundwave are all right there. So, 1. Mirage could die. 2. The Bots didn't know about the Cybertron thing until it happened, so why would Optimus send Mirage in to destroy the pillar? 3. Autobots don't assassinate, and it wouldn't have gone well anyway.
@KnightsRealm98 considering how bamboozled sentinel was to see any autobot still active I imagine a suprise attack from mirage would still have some chance of being successful. Even if sentinel was hot on his trail and caught him it only takes a couple moments in theory to destroy a pillar. Okay yeah sure they don't know the cybertron plan. But they know the pillars are essential to the decepticon takeover regardless. Destroying the control pillar means the decepticons are stranded in whatever location they were in at the time instead of being able to maneuver across the planet at a moments notice. And I never brought up the idea of assassination so that point is mute. Mirage is a pacifist so that's not a factor at play
@@supercanadaeh9483 The assassination point was to emphasize that Mirage wouldn't have been sent ahead anyway, for any reason (also, it's "moot", not mute). The plan was to launch a surprise attack on the cons. Optimus did have hope that they could retrieve the pillars after the fact, use them for Wheeljack's original intent, but that wasn't the priority. Simply put, he didn't care about the pillars until he saw Cybertron. He assumed that the reason Megs wanted them in the first place was for the invasion. The invasion is over now, so Prime thinks Megatron's plan with the pillars is over as well. They aren't a priority, stopping Megatron and Sentinel is. All Prime knew was that Megatron had occupied Chicago and launched a full-scale invasion. His plan was to cut off the serpent's head (Megatron) so that the body (the army) would wither. And bring Sentinel to justice. Once he saw Cybertron, his priority changed. But by then the plan was already underway, and the battle started shortly thereafter. There wasn't time to send Mirage in alone, so he just added a goal: take out the pillar. Up till that point, he'd have preferred salvaging them, not destroying them. Heck, even him shooting it and Mirage shooting it at the end was a last-ditch effort, as if Wheeljack could shut it down, it'd save Cybertron. But after Jackie fell, Prime thought he was dead, so destroying it was the only option.
@@awesomeproductions7755 When you're done fighting, you're done fighting. Look no further than Armistice Day and the Treaty of Versailles in actual history. EDIT: Not to mention, Prine himself literally just killed the one being in the universe Soundwave would have considered a friend. It's pretty even now
@@princekeiii That wasn't the point. The point was that in the movie proper, we had a bunch of unnamed human characters that ended up 1. Stealing the spotlight from the Autobots and the humans we actually care about, and 2. Never mattered again in the franchise. Besides, the military *did* respond. I mention them twice. Once in DC, and once after the invasion proper began. Both times, they were utterly annihilated by a vastly technologically superior force (because there is no way that our military might is doing anything against a full-fledged Decepticon army). Nukes are about our only recourse, and Megatron made sure those weren't an option when he conquered the Earth in a day. Plus, Soundwave is jacked in to the entire planet (which I also mention throughout the rewrites). He can just cancel any nuke commands as they come. I don't want these movies to be military vs. Decepticons. That's simply not interesting to me. If I wanted that, I'd watch literally any other alien invasion movie (Independence Day, Battleship, Battlefield: Earth, etc.). The original movies failed to deliver on the Autobot/Decepticon war by shoehorning in a million and a half human characters into almost every given scene, and the few times when it is just the robots fighting (e.g., Optimus vs. Sentinel), it's actually really good. Usually. We do still have "Give me your face." Even back in the first film (which I actually do like quite a bit), half of the final battle is Lennox and Co. vs Brawl and Blackout, with Ironhide and Jazz popping in occasionally (until Jazz got ripped in half). Bumblebee spends that battle hooked to a tow truck and Ratchet spends it fixing him. Optimus is the only Autobot consistently engaged with a Decepticon, and he got there late. There are more shots of Sam, Mikaela, or Lennox dealing with the Cons than the Autobots. DotM is much the same. We spend so much time with Random NEST Guy #4 and Disposable Air Force Dude #16 and whoever else that, aside from Optimus, the Bots don't really get much focus. I mean, Bee saves Sam from Starscream, then he drives off, and then offscreen he, Que, Dino, Sideswipe, and Ratchet were captured. We wasted time slogging through so many human POVs that we missed the bulk of the Autobot team getting caught, all while Prime hangs in some cables for half the battle. At the end of the day, I care far more about making a Transformers story than anything else. I want to see Optimus Prime and his crew taking on the Decepticons, aided by a few human allies who don't steal the focus. The robots are the reason I like this franchise, and I genuinely don't feel that Bay, Orci, and Kurtzman handled the robots well (which is odd, because Kurtzman and Orci wrote for Transformers Prime and that show is excellent).
I have a problem with this. Wouldn’t it have made more sense to bring Earth to Cybertron’s orbit, instead of Cybertron to earth’s orbit? That way both the earth and cyberytonian solar systems are completely destroyed by the loosing such a massive gravitational mass and suddenly gaining such a massive gravitational mass.
@@viktorwilfong753 That (EDIT: Bringing Cybertron to Earth) was the plot of both the original movie and the G1 arc that inspired it. I wasn't going to change something that massive. If you have a problem, take it up with the writers of The Ultimate Doom arc of G1
@@KnightsRealm98 fair. But still. In any other story. It’s Just more logical to bring earth to cybertrons orbit. Simply because if earth entered Cybertron’s Roche limit, the planet would crumble into a resource rich ring system like Saturns. I get your point on it being movie and g1 accurate.
@@narawilliams2429 Back in my RotF, Megatron gave Optimus an ultimatum. "When next we meet on the battlefield, either one of us walks away or neither of us." In writing, we call that foreshadowing. Having Megatron live would render said foreshadowing pointless. Besides that, I just didn't want to.
what i dislike about your dotm rewrite were sentinel prime betraying the autobots along with killing ironhide, skids, and sunstreaker, and the autobots getting exiled after sentinel prime and shockwave were announced to be dotm people thought shockwave was gonna be dotm's main villain
I had to stick to the main plot. Thus, Sentinel had to betray, the Autobots had to be exiled, and there had to be character death. Besides, I wasn't going to make Wave the big bad when Megs was still around.
because thefirebrothers made a video saying ironhide defeating megatron in the dotm video games was why sentinel prime killed ironhide (meaning megs had something to do with sentinel killing ironhide)
"Babe wake up, TF:DOTM Rewritten part 3 just dropped!"
2:18 That is an awesome callback to the 1986 movie.
I may hate the actual Skids from the actual Bayverse, but this one died a noble hero
Yeah, I like this version better.
@@MCstudio1274 Yeah, and at least this Skids would’ve had the mass controversy
While rewatching the DOTM, I wished the Battle of Chicago would have been as impactful as the Shibuya Incident from Jujutsu Kaisen. But this rewrite literally made it happen! Good job, Knight! :)
This needs to be animated in some way! Stop Motion, CGI, Live action, I Don’t Care! These rewrites need to stand on TH-cam as the true cinematic Transformers Movies!
Your Optimus Prime and Megatron voice impressions are perfect. Kudos.
Something I find odd about Bayverse Starscream is that he’s the type that always appreciates his master even if he’s abused. At least when Theorymus did his “What if I survived Starscream” video, he at least had Starscream realize that Megatron was a weak and pathetic excuse of a leader and that only Starscream himself could lead the ‘Cons.
I feel like this version of Megatron and Optimus's final battle is much more thematically resonant than Optimus committing a war crime because "let's find out lmao"
It's not Optimus who initiates it, but Megatron and his hubris. It turns the final battle of this war into a bit of a gladiator match, which feels like the way Megatron would want to go out. Either he wins and conquers Earth but has to live with the fact that Cybertron is lost once again, or Prime ends him and he gets the last laugh by showing Prime he couldn't solve this war with idealism and Diplomacy. (EDIT: I wrote this before the fight scene was explained and it went pretty much as I expected, including Meg's reaction to his death, which is pretty solid character writing)
Of course, a lot of this has to do with a lack of executive meddling, more hindsight, and a bunch of other factors-- I don't really think any of the scriptwriters for 07 or DOTM wanted to tell a bad story, they just didn't get the opportunity to refine these ideas into what they could have been. Writers rarely get the level of respect they need from the production side of film-making, especially for films like these that are seen as little more than money printers by corporate and recruitment propaganda by the Department of Defense (which is why the military features so heavily in 07, ROTF, and DOTM).
EDIT 2 (Cybertronium Boogaloo): I really like this interpretation of Sentinel. If the core theme of the DOTM rewrite is "How does war push people to extremes" then Sentinel is very much a solid example of what happens with radicalization and extremism, how someone can think they're in the right and entirely justified despite sacrificing every element of their morality for that goal. It's a good mirror of Megatron and Optimus and how the war changed the both of them. His end is also much more resonant than being executed (despite the original being very meme-worthy) because it's him suffering for his own actions. While Optimus does make a conscious decision to neglect his mentor's wounds and let him bleed out and suffer, it's entirely understandable why he would do that considering Sentinel's actions. It's the furthest possible fall from grace and ends the arc in a way that makes sense.
No lie all these autobot deaths are hurting me lol
Love this guy's content. His rewrites are really good, and I'd love to see them as full-scale movies or a series. And his Optimus impression is actually pretty good!
Shockwave better have top ten brutal ends in transformers history after this
Wave's war crimes have just begun
@@KnightsRealm98 Does this rewritten part 3 of your video mention that Optimus and the Autobots allowed the humans to die during Megatron's invasion? Just out of curiosity.
@@etabiansosin No one knew the full scale of Megatron's plan except Soundwave, Shockwave, and Sentinel. All Optimus knew was that he had occupied DC and later Chicago. The invasion was a surprise to everyone (amd Cybertron was an even bigger surprise) . So no, Optimus didn't "allow" anything. There was nothing he could have done to prevent it at that point. All he could do was stop it before it got worse.
I loved this, though I wish megatrons truce remained. Beyond that this is perfection.
When Skids and Ironhide where being killed, I was actually expecting Jetfire to appear and try to fight both Megatron and Sentinel, before being killed by either Megatron or Sentinel
That would have been a bit too Deus Ex Machina, as I hadn't established Jetfire's location yet.
@@KnightsRealm98 Oh, well why was he going over to Washington cause wouldn’t the humans, even if the Decepticons decided not to attack D.C, would’ve found it odd that an aircraft was flying over despite nothing being said about said aircraft
@@LordBumblebee1238 Optimus sent him on patrol during the funeral.
@@KnightsRealm98 Oh, but what was Jetfire patrolling for anyways? Since you mentioned he was on patrol in the second part
@@LordBumblebee1238 Decepticon activity at first, much like how all the bots were until finding Shockwave at Chernobyl. Then he was basically scouting the enemy, trying to figure out Megs's plan
Knight, this would be a perfect time to add other characters like Ultra Magnus and Elita-One, they would be great to see and even more so for Optimus’s Character Development after Sentinel’s Betrayal and Ironhide’s Death.
I definitely have more characters planned. Drift, Hound, and Hot Rod, of course, but there's plenty of room for others. Same with the D-Cons.
0:00 I thought you were gonna do that Beerus meme for a sec.
“Hmmmm. It seems you’re an Autobot. I don’t like Autobots very much. Soundwave! Get the Autobot killer!”
Oh hell yeah. NOW I have a reason to hoot and holler.
Best one, looking forward to watching the AOE rewrite!
Bumblebee follows the Top Gear code of conduct I see
Ironically, in an early draft of Bayformers 3, Skids was killed by Sentinel Prime alongside Mudflap.
So seeing Skids get killed off here feels like a parallel to what the actual DOTM could’ve been.
What Autobots and Decepticons do you plan to bring in your Sequel Trilogy rewrites (Autobots: Ultra Magnus, Override, Springer, Blurr, Kup, Perceptor, Cliffjumper, Blaster, Prowl, Red Alert (Just in Case if Ratchet gets killed off and Red Alert replaces Ratchet as a Autobot Nurse/Surgeon), Wingblade, The Aerialbots) Decepticons (Knock Out, Breakdown, Trypticon, Astrotrain, Skywarp, Airachnid, Cyclonus, Bludgeon, Swindle, Slipstream, Lugnut, Overload, Tidal Wave, Ratbat, Rumble)
To that, I'm going to say "wait and see." Spoilers and all that.
i love this what if
It would have been a little neat if you had Soundwave kill Jazz the same way as Megatron did in the actual 2007 transformers movie.
And I think it would be more gruesome if Jazz said what he said to Megatron in the original 2007 film to Soundwave and Soundwave would say what Megatron said and he’d rip Jazz in half more slowly and painfully
Never before has a TH-cam video given me goosebumps quite Iike this, where to start.
The debate the autobots had about leaving earth. Megatron’s speech to earth as a whole. Megatron and Optimus saying “one shall stand, one shall fall” at each other. The memorial for ironhide and the other autobots. All phenomenal work! And I like how you still managed to kill off sentinel and Megatron without turning Optimus into a maniac! You have a lot of talent and I hope one day you will gain more recognition.
YO I WAS EXCEPTING JUST IRONHIDE TO DIE SKIDS NOOO! 😭 Edit: SUN STREAKER TOO?! Edit 2: 11:57 Til all are one! Edit 3: 18:36-18:49 Cybertronian anatomy is difficult to understand. Edit 4: Bro you being like the 1986 movie killing off these characters! What's next Optimus? Edit 5: THANK GOD OPTIMUS SURVIVED I WAS THINKING I JINXED MYSELF
Great ending! But the humans will turn against the autobots in the transformers 4 rewrite, aren't they?...
Some will
@@KnightsRealm98 That doesn't sound good...
@KnightsRealm98 hey this is just an suggestion but, for your rewrite on the bay films or predacon's rising, I have been thinking of predacons fueled by dark energon and surving unicron and they are the first predacon but much more evil
@KnightsRealm98 Also I am planning to make my own transformers series
Why are Brawl and Barricade considered spare Constructicons?
No, it's "the spare Constructicons (Skipjack, Scrapmetal, and Hightower), *comma*, Barricade and Brawl." The spare Constructicons are a separate entity.
@@KnightsRealm98 The way you sounded it, it made it seem both Barricade and Brawl were spare Constructicons
btw nice voice acting skills
*chefs kiss*
"Five Faces of Darkness" FInally a chance to show off the menace of the quintessons. The return of an ancient empire would be an amazing story. (idk if this is correct, I'm just basing a theory off of a title)
@@PanzerKnight1875 I have plans for those freaks. Easily my third favorite villain faction (D-Cons are my number one, always).
@@KnightsRealm98 No surprise there. Cons always got the love from me. Although I am excited to see Age of Extinction and thrill of the hunt as well, I can smell the stakes from miles away. Also a good way to give Cemetery Wind a proper use instead of worthless side faction used to build up plot. (First half they were OK, 2nd half they were lacking)
@@KnightsRealm98 We vibe on a similar level. Though the Quintessons lately have been bumping up lately in my favorite evil faction that isn't just Decepticons but animals or servants of Unicron..... in that regard though The Terrorcons are my favorites.
Did Soundwave ever take an Earth based alt mode or no? Also, what happened to the main Constructicons after they separated?
@@LordBumblebee1238 I never said that he did, but yes. He's a surveillance van. The C-Cons are alive (Mixmaster's in bad shape, though) and left with Soundwave at the end
@@KnightsRealm98 So what of Thundercracker?
@@LordBumblebee1238 Spoilers
@@KnightsRealm98 So he’s still alive? Hopefully he gets to redeem himself
blink twice if there's gonna be a predacon v. Dinobot battle in the aoe rewrite.
do think you could add jetstorm in your rewrite age of extic
Maybe not AoE, but TotH or FFoD, possibly.
What happened to Shockwaves pet, the Driller?
@@LordBumblebee1238 Optimus killed it
@@KnightsRealm98 So that was before he wounded Brawl and killed Hightower and Skipjack?
@@LordBumblebee1238 Yes
@@KnightsRealm98 I see
BROOOO 🔥🔥🔥🔥🥹 that was amazing
31:04
what happened to gould, brawl, and the ark (when the autobots pretend they died) also which constructicons died
Gould dies to Sam (probably shot, I didn't really clarify) after unjostling the pillar. Brawl was at least wounded, if not killed (if the Combaticons end up playing a role in future Rewrites, he'll come back). Only the auxiliary Constructicons died (Skipjack, Hightower, and Scrapmetal), but Mixmaster and Long Haul suffered severe injuries (Mix got an axe taken to him by Prime)
And the Ark is at the bottom of the Atlantic
@@KnightsRealm98 so the other constructicons like scavenger and rampage died
@@KnightsRealm98 did the ark get destroyed
@@harrishyatt6283 No. All the main C-Cons are alive. Only the three extras are dead
Did you know that Transformers 6 was supposed to be the last one?
Yes, there was supposed to be a finale. But TLK was so bad and lost money, so Bumblebee became a reboot.
@@KnightsRealm98 So I was wondering will you end your rewrite series at 6?
@@lyndasilkey5031 Currently, I only have six planned. If there's enough demand, though, I may make a trilogy based around Unicron later.
@@KnightsRealm98 I feel like that would be too many Transformers Movies to the point where people would start to get bored of it but the choice is yours
What do you think of Phoenix Studios rewrites
I quite liked his rewrites.
I like them. He actually inspired me to do my own, though I decided to stick a bit closer to the original plot than he did
Cool
If you ever animate this I would definitely play as many voices as you need lol
How many of these films will you do?
At least three more. Then Predacons Rising and RiD15. After that, we'll see.
Wait, couldn’t have they used that Energon pool from the last movie to revive the dead autobots?
@@3000bigrandy Optimus sealed the Fallen's tomb. Unsealing it and reactivating it would run the risk of allowing him to walk free again. Remember, Megatron just touching the console awakened the Fallen and caused the events of that movie. Optimus wants to ensure that that evil remains locked away forever.
@@KnightsRealm98 thanks, also, how come the matrix defense mechanism did not activate when megatron stabbed Optimus in Rotf
@@3000bigrandy Megs stabbed him from behind. The Matrix is in front of his spark chamber.
@@KnightsRealm98 thanks again
did sentinel prime die from leaking energon?
@@harrishyatt6283 That and the damage he sustained
Okay so let’s say you have access to any actor in the world, living or dead. Who do you cast as who?
OP: Peter Cullen
Megs: Frank Welker or Fred Tatasciore
Starscream: Charlie Adler or Steve Blum
Bee: Johnny Yong Bosch
Ironhide: Also Peter Cullen
Ratchet: Jim Cummings
Soundwave: Also Frank Welker
Shockwave: Corey Burton
Jazz: Phil Lamarr
Arcee: Sumalee Montano or Laura Bailey
Chromia: Dana Delany (DCAU Lois Lane)
Jetfire: Troy Baker
Sideswipe: Nolan North
Sunstreaker: Will Friedle
Skids: Also Troy Baker
The Fallen: Tony Todd
Sentinel: Leonard Nimoy
Blackout, Thundercracker, and Barricade: David Sobolov
Skywarp: John DiMaggio
Wheeljack: Sam Riegel
Brawl: Travis Willingham
Mirage: Liam O'Brien
The Constructicons: Fred Tatasciore (Devastator), Travis Willingham, Steve Blum, Kevin Michael Richardson, David Sobolov, Jim Cummings, and John DiMaggio
The humans: Whoever can pull it off.
@@KnightsRealm98 oooh, the idea of Corey Burton in particular voicing shockwave is something I had no idea I wanted to see until now!
@@glennfunderburk7420 He's actually the OG VA in G1, as well as voicing him (and Megatron) in Animated and several smaller projects.
Did you have more scenes planned on Cybertron between Orion and Megatronus or this is the final product? Because I love what you did with their first encounter and do you plan to have more in the future trilogy? Also is that really the end for The emperor of destruction?
I thought about adding one more scene in between the Ark going down and Sentinel betraying/usurping Megatron with Orion and Megatronus. One set just before and during the fateful High Council meeting where Orion is named Optimus and chosen as Sentinel's successor. But the script was a beast already, so I decided against it. I might use it later, though. We'll see. Other flashbacks will happen probably, but likely for other characters. And as for if this is Megatron's end, yes. Just as the Council meeting was the end for Megatronus and leaving the mines was the end for D-16. But all endings are merely beginnings.
@@KnightsRealm98 Thank you! Magnificent answer
Will you ever add death saurus or overlord to the rewrite
No. Neither fit the story.
Excuse me but are you going to do rewrite tf 4 and 5?
4, yes. But I'm splitting it in two.
TLK, I'm completely reworking because that movie was complete trash.
I have a couple community posts about my plans for the next few.
@@KnightsRealm98 alright thanks and take your time please
what i dislike about dotm were sentinel prime betraying the autobots along with killing ironhide, skids and mudflap, the autobots getting exiled, and wheeljack/que's death
sentinel prime killing ironhide is why ironhide couldn't appear in transformers prime, prime ironhide is a combination of g1 and bayverse, wheeljack/que's death was originally gonna be mirage/dino's death, dotm's original ending was gonna optimus prime accepting megatron's truce, the both of them kill sentinel, after killing sentinel prime, megs and the remaining decepticons leave earth to rebuild cybertron
rid 2015 skids is based off of his g1 counterpart
Forgive me if i missed something but. Whats stopping mirage from just going into the occupied zone solo and sneaking up on the control pillar?
Could work, but two things.
1. If he's caught, he's dead. One guy in the middle of enemy territory. Plus he has to decloak to actually do anything other than sneak. Considering Sentinel and Megatron are watching the pillar 24/7, chances of getting caught are pretty high.
2., and this is most important, there wouldn't be a story otherwise.
@KnightsRealm98 hmm. Seems a bit flimsy, no? With the hindsight of the existing story, not only would his sacrifice save the fates of several other autobots, it would also line up with the implied arc he has within this rewrite. Sacrifice his own life in the name of peace and maintaining the safety of others (while staying true to his vow of pacifism), in contrast to sentinel who would be willing to mow down entire droves of autobots if it ment cybertrons security. I understand if he couldn't use his Blaster while cloaked but, you telling me he couldn't grab it or do some other thing to confirm it's deactivation while invisible?
"Otherwise there wouldn't be a story" borders on a potentially lazy writing handwave. I don't mean this as a jab at all, just picking your brain over this as someone who has enjoyed these.
@@supercanadaeh9483 Again, Sentinel is right there the entire time. Transformers don't need sleep, and Sentinel doesn't trust the Decepticons to watch it. If Mirage grabs it, Sentinel would notice. On top of that, Optimus didn't even know about the full plan until Cybertron showed up. The plan to counterattack had already been made by the time it was active, so Mirage wouldn't have even known to go for the pillar in the first place. And Autobots aren't about assassination, so Optimus wouldn't have just sent him to kill Sentinel either...not that it would have worked if he did, considering that Sentinel's a Prime and tough to kill. Plus, Megatron, Shockwave, and Soundwave are all right there. So,
1. Mirage could die.
2. The Bots didn't know about the Cybertron thing until it happened, so why would Optimus send Mirage in to destroy the pillar?
3. Autobots don't assassinate, and it wouldn't have gone well anyway.
@KnightsRealm98 considering how bamboozled sentinel was to see any autobot still active I imagine a suprise attack from mirage would still have some chance of being successful. Even if sentinel was hot on his trail and caught him it only takes a couple moments in theory to destroy a pillar.
Okay yeah sure they don't know the cybertron plan. But they know the pillars are essential to the decepticon takeover regardless. Destroying the control pillar means the decepticons are stranded in whatever location they were in at the time instead of being able to maneuver across the planet at a moments notice.
And I never brought up the idea of assassination so that point is mute. Mirage is a pacifist so that's not a factor at play
@@supercanadaeh9483 The assassination point was to emphasize that Mirage wouldn't have been sent ahead anyway, for any reason (also, it's "moot", not mute). The plan was to launch a surprise attack on the cons. Optimus did have hope that they could retrieve the pillars after the fact, use them for Wheeljack's original intent, but that wasn't the priority. Simply put, he didn't care about the pillars until he saw Cybertron. He assumed that the reason Megs wanted them in the first place was for the invasion. The invasion is over now, so Prime thinks Megatron's plan with the pillars is over as well. They aren't a priority, stopping Megatron and Sentinel is. All Prime knew was that Megatron had occupied Chicago and launched a full-scale invasion. His plan was to cut off the serpent's head (Megatron) so that the body (the army) would wither. And bring Sentinel to justice. Once he saw Cybertron, his priority changed. But by then the plan was already underway, and the battle started shortly thereafter. There wasn't time to send Mirage in alone, so he just added a goal: take out the pillar. Up till that point, he'd have preferred salvaging them, not destroying them. Heck, even him shooting it and Mirage shooting it at the end was a last-ditch effort, as if Wheeljack could shut it down, it'd save Cybertron. But after Jackie fell, Prime thought he was dead, so destroying it was the only option.
Kinda surprised Optimus was so okay with declaring a truce with the guy who just killed his right hand man, but okay…
@@awesomeproductions7755 When you're done fighting, you're done fighting. Look no further than Armistice Day and the Treaty of Versailles in actual history.
EDIT: Not to mention, Prine himself literally just killed the one being in the universe Soundwave would have considered a friend. It's pretty even now
I want to add one thing to add the age of extinction rewrite that cemetery wind has weapons specifically made to damage and or kill cybertronians
Don't worry. I've already taken that into account.
kinda sounds like a nit pick but like dude….it’s a full scale invasion you really think the military won’t respond lol? 25:36
@@princekeiii That wasn't the point. The point was that in the movie proper, we had a bunch of unnamed human characters that ended up 1. Stealing the spotlight from the Autobots and the humans we actually care about, and 2. Never mattered again in the franchise.
Besides, the military *did* respond. I mention them twice. Once in DC, and once after the invasion proper began. Both times, they were utterly annihilated by a vastly technologically superior force (because there is no way that our military might is doing anything against a full-fledged Decepticon army). Nukes are about our only recourse, and Megatron made sure those weren't an option when he conquered the Earth in a day. Plus, Soundwave is jacked in to the entire planet (which I also mention throughout the rewrites). He can just cancel any nuke commands as they come.
I don't want these movies to be military vs. Decepticons. That's simply not interesting to me. If I wanted that, I'd watch literally any other alien invasion movie (Independence Day, Battleship, Battlefield: Earth, etc.). The original movies failed to deliver on the Autobot/Decepticon war by shoehorning in a million and a half human characters into almost every given scene, and the few times when it is just the robots fighting (e.g., Optimus vs. Sentinel), it's actually really good. Usually. We do still have "Give me your face." Even back in the first film (which I actually do like quite a bit), half of the final battle is Lennox and Co. vs Brawl and Blackout, with Ironhide and Jazz popping in occasionally (until Jazz got ripped in half). Bumblebee spends that battle hooked to a tow truck and Ratchet spends it fixing him. Optimus is the only Autobot consistently engaged with a Decepticon, and he got there late. There are more shots of Sam, Mikaela, or Lennox dealing with the Cons than the Autobots.
DotM is much the same. We spend so much time with Random NEST Guy #4 and Disposable Air Force Dude #16 and whoever else that, aside from Optimus, the Bots don't really get much focus. I mean, Bee saves Sam from Starscream, then he drives off, and then offscreen he, Que, Dino, Sideswipe, and Ratchet were captured. We wasted time slogging through so many human POVs that we missed the bulk of the Autobot team getting caught, all while Prime hangs in some cables for half the battle.
At the end of the day, I care far more about making a Transformers story than anything else. I want to see Optimus Prime and his crew taking on the Decepticons, aided by a few human allies who don't steal the focus. The robots are the reason I like this franchise, and I genuinely don't feel that Bay, Orci, and Kurtzman handled the robots well (which is odd, because Kurtzman and Orci wrote for Transformers Prime and that show is excellent).
Are there plans of you rewriting Transformers Prime movie
I have a problem with this. Wouldn’t it have made more sense to bring Earth to Cybertron’s orbit, instead of Cybertron to earth’s orbit? That way both the earth and cyberytonian solar systems are completely destroyed by the loosing such a massive gravitational mass and suddenly gaining such a massive gravitational mass.
@@viktorwilfong753 That (EDIT: Bringing Cybertron to Earth) was the plot of both the original movie and the G1 arc that inspired it. I wasn't going to change something that massive. If you have a problem, take it up with the writers of The Ultimate Doom arc of G1
@@KnightsRealm98 fair. But still. In any other story. It’s Just more logical to bring earth to cybertrons orbit. Simply because if earth entered Cybertron’s Roche limit, the planet would crumble into a resource rich ring system like Saturns.
I get your point on it being movie and g1 accurate.
You could've also kept the original ending where Optimus and Megatron team up to kill Sentinel Prime, and they make peace to end the war.
@@narawilliams2429 I could have. But I didn't.
@@KnightsRealm98 Is it because you want have AOE still happen or something?
@@narawilliams2429 Back in my RotF, Megatron gave Optimus an ultimatum. "When next we meet on the battlefield, either one of us walks away or neither of us." In writing, we call that foreshadowing. Having Megatron live would render said foreshadowing pointless.
Besides that, I just didn't want to.
I think a better title of this movie would be End of The Line
what i dislike about your dotm rewrite were sentinel prime betraying the autobots along with killing ironhide, skids, and sunstreaker, and the autobots getting exiled
after sentinel prime and shockwave were announced to be dotm people thought shockwave was gonna be dotm's main villain
I had to stick to the main plot. Thus, Sentinel had to betray, the Autobots had to be exiled, and there had to be character death. Besides, I wasn't going to make Wave the big bad when Megs was still around.
the allspark should have been mentioned in dotm
0/10 and totally unrealistic, barricade actually dies
in the dotm video games ironhide shot megatron and defeated him
@@harrishyatt6283 Okay? How is that relevant?
because thefirebrothers made a video saying ironhide defeating megatron in the dotm video games was why sentinel prime killed ironhide (meaning megs had something to do with sentinel killing ironhide)
I can do that with code lyoko action figures and transfomers action figures about r kelly