At least Baha'i seem to have the honesty to consider themselves a distinct religion, unlike Qadianis who adhere to heretic beliefs but still claim they're Muslim.
Both emerged around the same British colonial period in the 19th century as well. The Bab claimed to be Shia Mahdi and Bahaullah claimed to be return of Jesus. Whereas Ghulam claimed to be bith Sunni Mahdi and Jesus simultaneously. Even more cringe is that Qadianis and Bahais (or Habais as I'd call them) were preceeded by Joseph Smith with Mormonism. Qadianis have the most difficult challenge with their apologetics because Ghulam started making his claims a whole 30 years after Bahaullah did.
@@Hastenforthedawm Omg that’s so hilarious 😂 😂😂😂 I can’t believe what I’m reading. Are you fr fr ?? 😭😭 How embarrassing that is . Omg I feel so cringe right now .
@@Hastenforthedawm Seems like the Baha'i gets the lion's share of the funds from their sugardaddy. I suppose it's because Qadianis didn't really achieve much in comparison haha.
Mirza has *nothing* common with Isa ibn Maryam. Isa ibn Maryam would not accept "love for all" since his mission is to break the cross which shows he has no love for pagans.
The vital part of your question was “including Mirza himself“ who was also thought that the hadith refers to Jesus ( عليه السلام ) none of them dared come near to that part of the Q😂 you know their red button
@@Arbion26 Subhânallâh, this is actually a common mistake, at least Bangladesh (and I think other subcontinental countries too), where they say "`alayhi wa-sallâm".
@@FaridResponds السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته أخي الكريم أخي الكريم كرما وفضلا لا أمرا ان تتكرم علينا بمساعدتي بترجمة هذا المقطع الى اللغة الأنجليزية لتساعدنا في نشره بين الدعاة عندنا بالفلبين وعلى مواقع التواصل الاجتماعي لأني لا املك القدرة باللغة الانجليزية كما تملكها انت يقسم الحديث المعلق في صحيح البخاري الى قسمين قسم بصيغة الجزم وقسم بصيغة التمريض أما ما كان صحيح بصيغة الجزم يكون من المعلقات الصحيحة على شرط من علقه عنه من رجاله الرواة ثم ينظر في بقية رجاله الرواة ثم بعد ذلك قد يكون الحديث صحيحا أو حسنا أو ضعيفا ويكون ضعيفا من جهة الانقطاع كما في حديث ابن عباس متوفيك مميتك فيه انقطاع بين على بن ابي طلحة وابن عباس لذلك ضعيف كل من عرف صحيح البخاري يعلم أن مرويات البخاري نوعان ما يرويه متصلا بالسند فهذا هو الصحيح على شرط البخاري ومنها ما لا يرويه بالسند المتصل وإنما يرويه معلقا فهذا ليس بصحيح على شرط البخاري وهو ما يعرف بمعلقات البخاري وهذه المعلقات منها الصحيح بصيغة الجزم ومنها الضعيف بصيغة التمريض وقول ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما (متوفيك مميتك) قد رواه البخاري معلقا دون إسناد وعليه فليس هو على شرط البخاري في الصحة و يعرف الميرزا غلام أحمد جيدا أن البخاري روى هذه الرواية بصيغة التعليق , أي لم يروها بالصيغة التي تثبت صحة الرواية أي بالسند المتصل لابن عباس لأنه هناك انقطاع بين علي بن أبي طلحة وابن عباس، فقد اتفق الحفاظ على أن ابن أبي طلحة لم يسمعه (أي التفسير) من ابن عباس وقال الخليلي 446 هجري في الأرشاد ( الجزء الأول صفخة 394 ) وأجمع الحفاظ على أن ابن ابي طلحة لم يسمع التفسير من ابن عباس . أما زعم البعض أن ابن أبي طلحة أخذه من ابن جبير أو من مجاهد أو عكرمة أو غيرهم فليس عليه دليل لذلك قال الالباني في تعليقه على التنكيل (ولكن اين السند بذلك) يقول جماعة الاحمدية أخرج ابن جرير وابن المنذر وابن أبي حاتم من طريق علي عن ابن عباس في قوله إني متوفيك يقول: إني مميتك. شرح الإمام جلال الدين السيوطي في الدر المنثور قول ابن جرير اني مميتك من كل الأوجه ونسف شبهتهم كتاب تفسير ابن عباس ومروياته في التفسير من كتب السنة تأليف الدكتور عبدالعزيز بن عبدالله الحميدي رقم الصفحة صفحة رقم 169 و 170 و 171 تقرأ ما يلي قال ابن عباس في بيان المعنى قوله متوفيك مميتك محمول على وفاة عيسى عليه السلام في اخر الزمان ومما يؤيد هذا ما أخرجه اسحاق بن بشر وابن عساكر من طريق جويبر عن الضحاك عن ابن عباس في قوله اني متوفيك ورافعك يعني رافعك ثم متوفيك في اخر الزمان فعلى هذا يكون هذا الكلام من المقدم والمؤخر كما روي عن قتادة وغيره فيكون تقدير الكلام اني رافعك الي ومتوفيك بعد ذلك وتقديم التوفي على الرفع لا يقتضي التقدم في الزمن لان الواو لا تقتضي الترتيب بارك الله فيكم ورفع الله من قدركم في الدارين
The Qadani's are growing in the west (Canada & tUSA) plus other areas throughout America & Canada (Toronto) Qadanis have a Masjid in Bay Point, California. About 40 minutes east of San Francisco. Sadly they convince non Muslims and Muslims who are lost & misguided.
The one destructive question is actually whether scholars like Hasan al Basri, Abu Hanifa, Yunus Bin Yazid, Ibn Kathir or others were simply ignorant or whether they were infidels. Either they didn't know all the alleged verses about Jesus' death or the verses about how prophethood wasn't over yet, or they knew these things and ignored them, then they are unbelievers. Just a Jahil or a Kafir? What will the Qadiani apologists say to the scholars?
I’ve always said that Quadianis are hilarious because unlike Shias who reject hadith and tafsirs, they don’t reject hadiths or tafsirs but believe we are all reading them all wrong this whole time lol
How does imam Abu Hanifa RH and them saying Isa peace be upon him is dead a strong argument, when the imam didn’t say anything on topic? Can you explain? I’m pretty sure you’re referring to the last passage of al fiqh al Akbar but please explain how it destroys their claims since I’m not familiar with qadianis.
LOL too good. Seriously though, we shouldn't insult creatures of Allah like that. Pigs have at least some utility to farmers. They should not be compared to something like Apuss, the latter which serves absolutely no purpose but to brown-nose David Wood.
The non- Murabbi Ahmadis generally reply to us that Allah SWT gave Mirza Goolam the title of Eesa Alayhisalaam. The problem is Eesa Alayhisalaam's title was Masih. Allah gave him the name Eesa and called him The Masih for a reason. So Goolam Mirza claims title and name and says he is the second coming of Eesa.-specifically the son of Mary. In other words he did believe in a second coming of Eesa Alayhisalaam but had to find a way to prove that he was sent instead of Eesa Alayhisalaam. Did Allah SWT change His mind and sent Mirza instead? So Mirza was actually the first coming of Mirza Goolam. Ahmed😂. Why did he say second coming if he did not believe in a second coming of Eesa Alayhisalaam? . He could have only said that he is a new. "Non law bearing prophet😂 after prophet Muhammad SAW.. Why did he claim to be the Masih, Khalifa, Mujjadid, and the Mahdi also? Then he claimed prophethood after believing that no prophet will come after prophet Muhammad SAW. So after each claim he had to change the meaning of the Quran to fit himself in and he gets refuted in all his claims. 1) The Quran says prophet Muhammad SAW is the seal of prophets. There is nothing in the quran or Hadith that suggests prophets mean only a seal to certain kind of prophets. . It means seal to All prophets whether they came with a message as in Rasoolun Nabi, whether they came with hikma, whether they came to abrogate old laws, whether they came to only enforce existing scripture. All prophets of All kinds. So Mirza was stuck and added non-lawbearing, subordinate to his prophethood and gave seal a limited meaning. He compared his prophethood to Musa and Eesa 😂.Eesa was subordinate to Moosa(peace be upon them), he said. But, Allah SWT gave Eesa Alayhisalaam the Injeel. He was an independent prophet who came to uphold the previous Books of Allah, corrected the corruption, abrogating some laws etc. Prophet Muhammad SAW was sent with the same mission but Allah completed the favour upon prophet Muhammad SAW. Completed, Khatim, Sealed, Closure, Khatiem. And Allah SWT sent Rasoolullah SAW for the whole world.. Finished.. But Allah still hear us, guide us through the very same Quran and authentic Hadith and of course learned scholars. 2) In order to fit himself into prophethood, Mirza had to undo all miracles of Allah. Hereby, Eesa could not have ascended and will not descend. Everything has to happen according to laws of nature. Is Allah SWT confined and limited to HIS own laws? 3) The splitting of the moon granted to prophet Muhammad SAW was according to Mirza an eclipse or an illusion. Note, surah Qamr says the moon split. Why is it an eclipse for Mirza because Mirza was foretold by 2 natural phenomena called eclipses. No Hadith about this, but you can make your own if you have to prove a prophesy and lie that 2 eclipses in one month never ever happened in history. Sorry, Ahmadis, it happens and did happen in Ramadaan also. Research Please.! 4) If you reject one miracle then all miracles have to be explained. You give Eesa a father Joseph, or you make his mother a Hermafrodite or some other fancy term for a human who was born with both sexualities as can medically be proven. This is a miraculous birth according to them. NOT Allah says Be and it happens. No, scientifically proven means miracles according to Mirza. According to Mirza or his so called Khalifas, Eesa Alayhisalaam did not bring a bird to life with Allah's permission. No, he learned carpentry skills from Joseph the Carpenter and he performed tricks. Astaghfirullah. 5) The current khalifa says Sihr/Magic cannot affect people including him. This is just a lie invented by Peers, he said. Did Allah not tell us about Sihr in the Quran? Is the story of Sulaiman Alayhisalaam a metaphor? Is their a reason why they tell their followers not to believe Sihr can harm? Oh yes. Mirza Tahir said Allah cast spells as per the story of Moosa Alayhisalaam . Allah SWT cast a bigger spell than the magicians of Phirown. Astaghfirullah, the creator of the heavens and the earth need to cast spells to prove His Majesty??? Did Mirza connect with jinns? There seem to be proof for this. Topic for another day. 6) Adam and Eve did not descend from Jannah. Well, you got to believe in this. If you don't then the Miraj cannot be a dream anymore and the real Eesa Alayhisalaam will descend. By the way. The Mirzas are saying the Aboroginis had their own Adam and Eve. Adam alayhisalaam was not the first man. Iblees is a man and his nature is like from a fire. Is the Quran is a Metaphor or a Book of guidance.!!! Dear Ahmadis keep on dreaming or wake up and smell the fragrance of Jannah. You are only smelling a very cheap brand of coffee now.
They have a lot of good people in the cult who don't know anything about the hypocrisy and literally holds positions in high offices globally while misrepresenting Muslims.
So from 20:32, Dr. M Y's response is that the prophecy is very clear for any mumineen to understand and accept, and anyone who misunderstood it or thought it was referring to Isa peace be upon him returning himself, such as **Mirza Ghulam Ahmad HIMSELF (!!!),** are munkireen. Got it.
Brother Farid, the question to ask is: do the qadianis seriously believe mirza was impregnated by God's water (astagfirullah) and when he gave birth he transformed in to A Jesus (not jesus ibn maryam (as))
Can you plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz talk about the Hadith about (الوائدة المؤدة فالنار ) Like is that authentic? Does the Mattin contradict the Quran or other Hadiths ? If the prophet peace be upon him knew that she will go to hell because she will be tested according to the opinion hold by some scholars , then why doesn’t Allah also test Muslims children? And do u think that the opinion that nonbelievers children will be tested by Allah or do u generally say that all kids will enter Jannah if they died ? And if the second one is your opinion, then doesn’t that contradict to the Hadith ?
even if you reject this hadith in the return of christ. Qur'an 43:58-61 clearly states his return will be a sign of yawm al qiyama. (tafsir ibn kathir)
May Allah guide these Qadianis. So this guys says that the reason he believes in GMQ is because he has been prophecised by Mohammad pbuh. When asked Mohmmad pbuh told about ESA ibn Mariyam. He says its metaphorical. May Allah guide these peope.
WALAHI (I SWEAR BY GOD) THAT ONLY JESUS SON OF MARY(PBUTH) IS THE ONLY TRUE MESSIAH OF ALLAH (GOD) AND ALL OTHERS ARE FALSE MESSIAHS AS CONFIRMED BY THE SEAL OF THE PROPHETS, THE LAST AND FINAL PROPHET MOHAMMED (PBUH) OF ALLAH (GOD)
Good content may ALLAH bless you and all defenders of Islam can you repost your video too on other channels debunking. 107 lies of Christian prince too
This falls flat in all cases. Even if you stated, like the Qadianis claim, the prophet was referring to someone "like" Isa ibn Maryam, how would you quantify this? No one knows exactly what his mannerisms and personality was like. It's not like the Bible can be trusted on this, and the Quran does not provide enough details on Isa ibn Maryam to determine someone who is like Isa ibn Maryam (though we could easily do this for Muhammad s.a. due to the wide body of Hadith). This is the biggest flaw with the Qadiani narrative. In addition, in regards to the Mahdi (which Mirza Golam Ahmed claimed to be), the Islamic position has always stated that he would be similar in temperament to Muhammad s.a. How can you be both like Muhammad s.a. and Isa ibn Maryam? It's a contradiction.
Great tactics by Mr Qadiyani. when you got caught doing a sin just say Astaghfirullah and accuse the opposite party for false accusation. Ive seen This Qadiyani use same tactic every time he got caught red handed, but he is begairat.
honestly i felt that too couldn’t stand him. i notice ppl feel this way around multiple ahmadis. I had an ahmadi friend and one of my friends she felt uncomfortable around him at first
Muslims need to get a clue. One of the major themes of the Holy Quran is the rejection of prophets. Why would this lesson be a central theme to the last messenger? Every cause for which humanity has rejected prophets is placed in the Holy Quran & to no surprise, among the causes included is this notion of last prophet. NOTE the Surah this lesson is found in - the believer (Al Mumin). Those who have ears ought to hear.
#1. The believe in Jesus return is a clearTale and Imposible event, never will happen, Christians and Muslims with this idea are just believing in Magic. #2. The Ahmadiyya posture about Jesus death and that never will come back makes all the sense and fulfill all the God Words and Commandments. #3 Quran says that No one goes to Allah without to enjoy the taste of death. And Quran says no one after to feel the taste of death will come back. Just with this verse have to be enough if a Muslim firmly believes that Quran is Allah’s word.
I am an Ahmady Muslim from Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬 Alhamdulillah! Look at this so called mullahs even on this video they have twisted everything, they didn’t show properly the answers of the Ahmady brothers! May Allah guide them to the right path! Alhamdulillah, Alhamdulillah Ahmady brothers are have answered everything correctly!
The companions of the Holy Prophet knew and understood that Jesus has passed away. Therefore, when the Holy Prophet used Isa Ibn Maryam in the Ahadith, they knew it was someone else being talked about but with that title. If they had the understanding that Jesus was still alive, then explain why nobody objected to Hazrat Abu Bakr when he read Surah 3 vs 144 upon the death of the Holy Prophet. The verse clearly states that messengers b4 the Holy Prophet have died meaning that his death is also part of Allah's sunnah. And Jesus came b4 the Holy Prophet meaning he too is dead. If the companions believed Isa was still alive, then why didn't they object to Hazrat Abu Bakr ? They could have objected that Isa is alive and so the Holy Prophet who is the Seal of all Prophets must also be alive. But nobody objected. Why? Because they knew Isa is dead. If he were alive, the verse should have stated clearly that he was an exception as his life and death is serious issue. But no. It didn't. U people fail to understand that, the belief that Jesus is still alive is an insult to the rank of the Holy Prophet. He is Khatam Nabiyeen, Kairul waraa, Rahmatun lil Aalameen. Etc. Yet he went through death. So how come Isa who is not any of that doesn't die just like all messengers like the Quran states?
Your allah is lacking in justice. Allah doesnt punish sin. If hes unjust, he cannot be God. He also allows you to break ALL TEN COMMANDMENTS that were given to Moses. They were written in stone with Gods finger making them eternal. Also, why did allah create christianity, then punish christians for believing what he decieved them to believe? How can you KNOW that allah isnt decieving you? How can you sleep well at night knowing that your believing in a god that boasts in decieving? men?
The Christian God isn’t much just either. He lets sinners go without the punishment he made for them, but takes that same punishment himself(why would God create a punishment only for him to be the one who faces it?)As for the 10 commandments, it is similar to why Christian’s don’t follow the old Testament(abrogation and introduction of new rulings). Also, the part of deceiving wasn’t talking about us, im pretty sure it was talking about people who tried to kill prophet Muhammad PBUH. Allah was deceiving them into thinking their plan would work.
And Allah didn’t create Christianity(though he didn’t stop it from forming either). This is a result of free will. And this is a weak argument either way because nearly any religion could be asked why their God let other religions be created. I could even ask you why your God let Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc be made.
😢😢 give up the stress and lies , who going to come back and judging his own creations , jesus is the first and the last , no one can get to the father but as to get through jesus ., he is the way the truth and the life 😊😊
@@AliKB90 😂🤣😂 in flesh and blood you can says that but in reality he is god think ( IN THE BIGGINING WAS THE WORDS AND THE WORDS WAS WITH ( GOD ) AND THE WORDS BECAME FLESH . SO BEFORE JESUS BECAME FLESH WHO WAS HE .. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 FROM SPIRIT TO FLESH AND BLOOD .... JESUS IS GOD.... WHO IS THE BIGGINING AND THE END IN YOUR QURAN , THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA YOU LOST BIG TIME
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I was expectin something real serious but no it was literally that a cat 😂😂
The funny thing is that Qadiani and Baha'i consider each other blasphemies, despite both of them being the exact same kind of religious clownery lmao.
Do Qadianis and Baha'is have beef between one another? At least Baha'is don't try to convince people that they are Muslims unlike Qadianis.
At least Baha'i seem to have the honesty to consider themselves a distinct religion, unlike Qadianis who adhere to heretic beliefs but still claim they're Muslim.
Both emerged around the same British colonial period in the 19th century as well.
The Bab claimed to be Shia Mahdi and Bahaullah claimed to be return of Jesus.
Whereas Ghulam claimed to be bith Sunni Mahdi and Jesus simultaneously.
Even more cringe is that Qadianis and Bahais (or Habais as I'd call them) were preceeded by Joseph Smith with Mormonism.
Qadianis have the most difficult challenge with their apologetics because Ghulam started making his claims a whole 30 years after Bahaullah did.
@@Hastenforthedawm
Omg that’s so hilarious 😂 😂😂😂 I can’t believe what I’m reading. Are you fr fr ?? 😭😭
How embarrassing that is . Omg I feel so cringe right now .
@@Hastenforthedawm
Seems like the Baha'i gets the lion's share of the funds from their sugardaddy. I suppose it's because Qadianis didn't really achieve much in comparison haha.
Mirza has *nothing* common with Isa ibn Maryam. Isa ibn Maryam would not accept "love for all" since his mission is to break the cross which shows he has no love for pagans.
Assalamoalaikum warahmatullahiwabarkatuhu
Yes, and he didn't even fight Dajjal, and evil is still spreading 😂
@@Jandullah-1 wa alaikum salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. I didn't see any tichi tichi in the hadith either.
@@tachikoma7757 what is tichi tichi ??
@@Jandullah-1 the angel mga dreamt about before receiving money 😂
@@tachikoma7757 Lol
The vital part of your question was “including Mirza himself“ who was also thought that the hadith refers to Jesus ( عليه السلام ) none of them dared come near to that part of the Q😂 you know their red button
qaiani confusion reminds me of Christianity SUBHANALLAH (GLORY BE TO GOD)
عليه وسلم؟ you mean عليه السلام؟
@@Arbion26 Subhânallâh, this is actually a common mistake, at least Bangladesh (and I think other subcontinental countries too), where they say "`alayhi wa-sallâm".
The edits in this video are just awesome. Too bad there is no way to support you financially for your work.
Sharing the video is enough. ;)
@@FaridResponds السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته أخي الكريم
أخي الكريم كرما وفضلا لا أمرا ان تتكرم علينا بمساعدتي بترجمة هذا المقطع الى اللغة الأنجليزية لتساعدنا في نشره بين الدعاة عندنا بالفلبين وعلى مواقع التواصل الاجتماعي لأني لا املك القدرة باللغة الانجليزية كما تملكها انت
يقسم الحديث المعلق في صحيح البخاري الى قسمين قسم بصيغة الجزم وقسم بصيغة التمريض أما ما كان صحيح بصيغة الجزم يكون من المعلقات الصحيحة على شرط من علقه عنه من رجاله الرواة ثم ينظر في بقية رجاله الرواة ثم بعد ذلك قد يكون الحديث صحيحا أو حسنا أو ضعيفا ويكون ضعيفا من جهة الانقطاع كما في حديث ابن عباس متوفيك مميتك فيه انقطاع بين على بن ابي طلحة وابن عباس لذلك ضعيف
كل من عرف صحيح البخاري يعلم أن مرويات البخاري نوعان ما يرويه متصلا بالسند فهذا هو الصحيح على شرط البخاري ومنها ما لا يرويه بالسند المتصل وإنما يرويه معلقا فهذا ليس بصحيح على شرط البخاري وهو ما يعرف بمعلقات البخاري وهذه المعلقات منها الصحيح بصيغة الجزم ومنها الضعيف بصيغة التمريض وقول ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما (متوفيك مميتك) قد رواه البخاري معلقا دون إسناد وعليه فليس هو على شرط البخاري في الصحة و يعرف الميرزا غلام أحمد جيدا أن البخاري روى هذه الرواية بصيغة التعليق , أي لم يروها بالصيغة التي تثبت صحة الرواية أي بالسند المتصل لابن عباس لأنه هناك انقطاع بين علي بن أبي طلحة وابن عباس، فقد اتفق الحفاظ على أن ابن أبي طلحة لم يسمعه (أي التفسير) من ابن عباس وقال الخليلي 446 هجري في الأرشاد ( الجزء الأول صفخة 394 ) وأجمع الحفاظ على أن ابن ابي طلحة لم يسمع التفسير من ابن عباس . أما زعم البعض أن ابن أبي طلحة أخذه من ابن جبير أو من مجاهد أو عكرمة أو غيرهم فليس عليه دليل لذلك قال الالباني في تعليقه على التنكيل (ولكن اين السند بذلك)
يقول جماعة الاحمدية أخرج ابن جرير وابن المنذر وابن أبي حاتم من طريق علي عن ابن عباس في قوله إني متوفيك يقول:
إني مميتك. شرح الإمام جلال الدين السيوطي في الدر المنثور قول ابن جرير اني مميتك من كل الأوجه ونسف شبهتهم
كتاب تفسير ابن عباس ومروياته في التفسير من كتب السنة تأليف الدكتور عبدالعزيز بن عبدالله الحميدي
رقم الصفحة صفحة رقم 169 و 170 و 171
تقرأ ما يلي قال ابن عباس في بيان المعنى قوله متوفيك مميتك محمول على وفاة عيسى عليه السلام في اخر الزمان ومما يؤيد هذا ما أخرجه اسحاق بن بشر وابن عساكر من طريق جويبر عن الضحاك عن ابن عباس في قوله اني متوفيك ورافعك يعني رافعك ثم متوفيك في اخر الزمان فعلى هذا يكون هذا الكلام من المقدم والمؤخر كما روي عن قتادة وغيره فيكون تقدير الكلام اني رافعك الي ومتوفيك بعد ذلك وتقديم التوفي على الرفع لا يقتضي التقدم في الزمن لان الواو لا تقتضي الترتيب
بارك الله فيكم ورفع الله من قدركم في الدارين
I would imagine buying his book(s?) would help.
@@Abdullah34610 That helps the publisher. ;p
@@FaridRespondsAre your books available Physically?
Why is this even a thing? Alhamdulilah for the salaf and sahih hadiths passed down. May Allah guide them.
The Qadani's are growing in the west (Canada & tUSA) plus other areas throughout America & Canada (Toronto)
Qadanis have a Masjid in Bay Point, California. About 40 minutes east of San Francisco.
Sadly they convince non Muslims and Muslims who are lost & misguided.
he sounds like CP
The editing is, as the kids say, lit 🔥. I literally laughed out loud couple time.
"Not really" got me good!!!!
The phrase " Including mirza ghulam ahmed " by farid caught me offguard .🤣🤣🤣🤣
Would love to see Razi's word for word notes he types on dual screens 😅
The one destructive question is actually whether scholars like Hasan al Basri, Abu Hanifa, Yunus Bin Yazid, Ibn Kathir or others were simply ignorant or whether they were infidels.
Either they didn't know all the alleged verses about Jesus' death or the verses about how prophethood wasn't over yet, or they knew these things and ignored them, then they are unbelievers.
Just a Jahil or a Kafir? What will the Qadiani apologists say to the scholars?
I’ve always said that Quadianis are hilarious because unlike Shias who reject hadith and tafsirs, they don’t reject hadiths or tafsirs but believe we are all reading them all wrong this whole time lol
Agree but leave the word "infidels" to Christians, it's their creation.
@@TheProofLady yeah it takes a proper level of delusion to think that
@@TheProofLady It's like Christians who say that actually all of Bible suggests the trinity. Wallahi these people are so delusional
How does imam Abu Hanifa RH and them saying Isa peace be upon him is dead a strong argument, when the imam didn’t say anything on topic? Can you explain? I’m pretty sure you’re referring to the last passage of al fiqh al Akbar but please explain how it destroys their claims since I’m not familiar with qadianis.
LOL too good. Seriously though, we shouldn't insult creatures of Allah like that. Pigs have at least some utility to farmers. They should not be compared to something like Apuss, the latter which serves absolutely no purpose but to brown-nose David Wood.
The non- Murabbi Ahmadis generally reply to us that Allah SWT gave Mirza Goolam the title of Eesa Alayhisalaam. The problem is Eesa Alayhisalaam's title was Masih. Allah gave him the name Eesa and called him The Masih for a reason. So Goolam Mirza claims title and name and says he is the second coming of Eesa.-specifically the son of Mary. In other words he did believe in a second coming of Eesa Alayhisalaam but had to find a way to prove that he was sent instead of Eesa Alayhisalaam. Did Allah SWT change His mind and sent Mirza instead?
So Mirza was actually the first coming of Mirza Goolam. Ahmed😂. Why did he say second coming if he did not believe in a second coming of Eesa Alayhisalaam? . He could have only said that he is a new. "Non law bearing prophet😂 after prophet Muhammad SAW..
Why did he claim to be the Masih, Khalifa, Mujjadid, and the Mahdi also? Then he claimed prophethood after believing that no prophet will come after prophet Muhammad SAW.
So after each claim he had to change the meaning of the Quran to fit himself in and he gets refuted in all his claims.
1) The Quran says prophet Muhammad SAW is the seal of prophets. There is nothing in the quran or Hadith that suggests prophets mean only a seal to certain kind of prophets. . It means seal to All prophets whether they came with a message as in Rasoolun Nabi, whether they came with hikma, whether they came to abrogate old laws, whether they came to only enforce existing scripture. All prophets of All kinds. So Mirza was stuck and added non-lawbearing, subordinate to his prophethood and gave seal a limited meaning. He compared his prophethood to Musa and Eesa 😂.Eesa was subordinate to Moosa(peace be upon them), he said.
But, Allah SWT gave Eesa Alayhisalaam the Injeel. He was an independent prophet who came to uphold the previous Books of Allah, corrected the corruption, abrogating some laws etc. Prophet Muhammad SAW was sent with the same mission but Allah completed the favour upon prophet Muhammad SAW. Completed, Khatim, Sealed, Closure, Khatiem. And Allah SWT sent Rasoolullah SAW for the whole world.. Finished.. But Allah still hear us, guide us through the very same Quran and authentic Hadith and of course learned scholars.
2) In order to fit himself into prophethood, Mirza had to undo all miracles of Allah. Hereby, Eesa could not have ascended and will not descend. Everything has to happen according to laws of nature.
Is Allah SWT confined and limited to HIS own laws?
3) The splitting of the moon granted to prophet Muhammad SAW was according to Mirza an eclipse or an illusion. Note, surah Qamr says the moon split. Why is it an eclipse for Mirza because Mirza was foretold by 2 natural phenomena called eclipses. No Hadith about this, but you can make your own if you have to prove a prophesy and lie that 2 eclipses in one month never ever happened in history. Sorry, Ahmadis, it happens and did happen in Ramadaan also. Research Please.!
4) If you reject one miracle then all miracles have to be explained. You give Eesa a father Joseph, or you make his mother a Hermafrodite or some other fancy term for a human who was born with both sexualities as can medically be proven. This is a miraculous birth according to them. NOT Allah says Be and it happens. No, scientifically proven means miracles according to Mirza.
According to Mirza or his so called Khalifas, Eesa Alayhisalaam did not bring a bird to life with Allah's permission. No, he learned carpentry skills from Joseph the Carpenter and he performed tricks. Astaghfirullah.
5) The current khalifa says Sihr/Magic cannot affect people including him. This is just a lie invented by Peers, he said. Did Allah not tell us about Sihr in the Quran? Is the story of Sulaiman Alayhisalaam a metaphor? Is their a reason why they tell their followers not to believe Sihr can harm? Oh yes. Mirza Tahir said Allah cast spells as per the story of Moosa Alayhisalaam . Allah SWT cast a bigger spell than the magicians of Phirown. Astaghfirullah, the creator of the heavens and the earth need to cast spells to prove His Majesty???
Did Mirza connect with jinns? There seem to be proof for this. Topic for another day.
6) Adam and Eve did not descend from Jannah. Well, you got to believe in this. If you don't then the Miraj cannot be a dream anymore and the real Eesa Alayhisalaam will descend.
By the way. The Mirzas are saying the Aboroginis had their own Adam and Eve. Adam alayhisalaam was not the first man. Iblees is a man and his nature is like from a fire. Is the Quran is a Metaphor or a Book of guidance.!!!
Dear Ahmadis keep on dreaming or wake up and smell the fragrance of Jannah. You are only smelling a very cheap brand of coffee now.
Those people do not need to be discussed!
They have a lot of good people in the cult who don't know anything about the hypocrisy and literally holds positions in high offices globally while misrepresenting Muslims.
19:21 even he knows 😂😂🤣
After Hazrat Iesa PBUH will come back the day of judgment will happned.
So from 20:32, Dr. M Y's response is that the prophecy is very clear for any mumineen to understand and accept, and anyone who misunderstood it or thought it was referring to Isa peace be upon him returning himself, such as **Mirza Ghulam Ahmad HIMSELF (!!!),** are munkireen. Got it.
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Accept every claim
Wallah I love you my brother ❤ Allah preserve you and your family❤
The cat is the actual mentor/teacher of Brother Farid 😊
many still got LOST. I pray for divine guidance to the people of knowledge all over the wolrd
Brother Farid when he said “of course” he meant “of course not” all the scholars understood it like this
AND THE SAHABA!
And the Salaf
Brother Farid, the question to ask is: do the qadianis seriously believe mirza was impregnated by God's water (astagfirullah) and when he gave birth he transformed in to A Jesus (not jesus ibn maryam (as))
here bc of the cat =]
Can you plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz talk about the Hadith about (الوائدة المؤدة فالنار )
Like is that authentic? Does the Mattin contradict the Quran or other Hadiths ?
If the prophet peace be upon him knew that she will go to hell because she will be tested according to the opinion hold by some scholars , then why doesn’t Allah also test Muslims children?
And do u think that the opinion that nonbelievers children will be tested by Allah or do u generally say that all kids will enter Jannah if they died ? And if the second one is your opinion, then doesn’t that contradict to the Hadith ?
I love your style of talking and reacting :))))
Khalas akhi.
Can you challenge the challenge of mirza on tefsir of sura fatiha pls i am ahmedi but i want that challenge to be destroyed to accept sunni islam
9:30 😂😂😂
18:03 if u wanna see jooj
This is Jooj's son, Sighanani, actually.
Sighanani ibn Jooj
@FaridResponds that's heavy name.
even if you reject this hadith in the return of christ. Qur'an 43:58-61 clearly states his return will be a sign of yawm al qiyama. (tafsir ibn kathir)
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Noman sounds like the guy in three idiots
How come every non-Muslim from Arabs wear traditional clothes when debating Muslims, hoping they might look authentic 😂😂😂
He learned from Al-Fadi lol
Absolutely, that's what I was thinking XD
Brother Farid is too good Ma Sha Allah haha
18:00 Meowslim cat 😻
Jooj (yajuj💀)
May Allah guide these Qadianis. So this guys says that the reason he believes in GMQ is because he has been prophecised by Mohammad pbuh. When asked Mohmmad pbuh told about ESA ibn Mariyam. He says its metaphorical. May Allah guide these peope.
18:16 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Akhy why did you delete all your stuff about cp ?
Go to featured channels section.
5:19 wow that was precise and beautiful logic
WALAHI (I SWEAR BY GOD) THAT ONLY JESUS SON OF MARY(PBUTH) IS THE ONLY TRUE MESSIAH OF ALLAH (GOD) AND ALL OTHERS ARE FALSE MESSIAHS
AS CONFIRMED BY THE SEAL OF THE PROPHETS, THE LAST AND FINAL PROPHET MOHAMMED (PBUH) OF ALLAH (GOD)
christian qadiani shia sufi etc...
same birds different feathers
لا
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله
وَعَلَيْكُمُ ٱلسَّلَامُ وَرَحْمَةُ ٱللَّٰهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Ghamidi presented the explanation of gospel and Hadiths regarding what does it mean by Jesus Christ saying I’ll descend!
Please check that out!
18:25 how everyone kept a straight face?!
Hey Farid, Why did you delete all the videos of AP I wanted to go back and send some to a brother but couldn't find it
Go to "Featured channels". You can find them all there.
Anyone get the waffle reference at 14:06?
I thought it meant as a Hole in reference. Your comment just made my day.
What? He said 33 Quran verses say Jesus died. There is no verse that says Jesus died.
Assalamualaikum brother im a fellow Muslim, recently i came across the Sahih Al Bukhari 1237 and am very confused, could you justify it for me?
Every muslim wil go to heaven even if they go to hell first.
I disagree with Andalusi there when he said hadith can abrogate Qur'an or was it sarcasm
Sarcasm
@@RaiseThePressure shokran akhi
Nah nah we're clipping that bro I'm sorry
Was Jesus predicted in Thorah and Thalmud?
Mirza Ghulam is not the promised Messiah prophet as stated in the Qur'an and Hadith
about mirza ghulam?
Good content may ALLAH bless you and all defenders of Islam can you repost your video too on other channels debunking. 107 lies of Christian prince too
Tamim Abu Ground beef?
Where is the full convo?
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This falls flat in all cases. Even if you stated, like the Qadianis claim, the prophet was referring to someone "like" Isa ibn Maryam, how would you quantify this? No one knows exactly what his mannerisms and personality was like. It's not like the Bible can be trusted on this, and the Quran does not provide enough details on Isa ibn Maryam to determine someone who is like Isa ibn Maryam (though we could easily do this for Muhammad s.a. due to the wide body of Hadith). This is the biggest flaw with the Qadiani narrative.
In addition, in regards to the Mahdi (which Mirza Golam Ahmed claimed to be), the Islamic position has always stated that he would be similar in temperament to Muhammad s.a. How can you be both like Muhammad s.a. and Isa ibn Maryam? It's a contradiction.
plz produce whole video to be fair...don't cut out what does not please you...
Full video is in description.
No body says we want "Name of father" bin Salah din to come back.
Do you an Twitter account?
Great tactics by Mr Qadiyani. when you got caught doing a sin just say Astaghfirullah and accuse the opposite party for false accusation. Ive seen This Qadiyani use same tactic every time he got caught red handed, but he is begairat.
10:29 😂
Deception & diversion.
oh didnt know farid have a cat, it looks cute
18:41
“He doesn’t want it in Arabic” 😂😂😂😂😂 they get caught out when a native speaker is challenging them
The MAHDI Has Appeared
Where?
beautiful cat
The guy with the massive black hat there is something very strange about his whole demeanor, very weirdly disturbing
I don’t what it is
honestly i felt that too couldn’t stand him. i notice ppl feel this way around multiple ahmadis. I had an ahmadi friend and one of my friends she felt uncomfortable around him at first
Maybe they have Jin with them Allahu alam
what is the the software they are using for the conference calls?
Streamyard.
Awesome, good to see you live up to your name, thanks for the response@@FaridResponds
I thought qadiani was originated in india how an arab ended up here
That Cat 😆
They're finished man that was hard to watch. LoL.
One christ amen
Mr Roziofle 🧇
Muslims need to get a clue. One of the major themes of the Holy Quran is the rejection of prophets. Why would this lesson be a central theme to the last messenger? Every cause for which humanity has rejected prophets is placed in the Holy Quran & to no surprise, among the causes included is this notion of last prophet. NOTE the Surah this lesson is found in - the believer (Al Mumin). Those who have ears ought to hear.
Farid, where is the pinned comment? 😂it's not there ig
Lol have yall heard of the new mohammed qasim guy lmaooo
Plus Mirza LA died on the toilet
#1.
The believe in Jesus return is a clearTale and Imposible event, never will happen, Christians and Muslims with this idea are just believing in Magic.
#2. The Ahmadiyya posture about Jesus death and that never will come back makes all the sense and fulfill all the God Words and Commandments.
#3 Quran says that No one goes to Allah without to enjoy the taste of death. And Quran says no one after to feel the taste of death will come back. Just with this verse have to be enough if a Muslim firmly believes that Quran is Allah’s word.
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Wait arab ahmadis exist?!?
Mohammed pbuh does not have any thing to do with the qardys
Ya Farid, I can tell you but these are facts and I can give you the wisdom and if you like and if you don't like and if you like 😂😂😂😂
Tamim is a charlatan.
Only Allah knows how and when jesus comes back amen
Not even jesus knows WEN he comes back himself mirza is dead jesus is alive pbuh amen
Ahmadi coping
I am an Ahmady Muslim from Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬 Alhamdulillah! Look at this so called mullahs even on this video they have twisted everything, they didn’t show properly the answers of the Ahmady brothers! May Allah guide them to the right path! Alhamdulillah, Alhamdulillah Ahmady brothers are have answered everything correctly!
dang didnt know you also can destroy ahmadis, good job, they can be annoying
Didn't even let him speak. Disrespectful. Ahmadiyyat is the True Islam
They're trying to get him to answer and not waffle
😂😂😂😂😂 mirza 💩💩💩
The companions of the Holy Prophet knew and understood that Jesus has passed away. Therefore, when the Holy Prophet used Isa Ibn Maryam in the Ahadith, they knew it was someone else being talked about but with that title. If they had the understanding that Jesus was still alive, then explain why nobody objected to Hazrat Abu Bakr when he read Surah 3 vs 144 upon the death of the Holy Prophet. The verse clearly states that messengers b4 the Holy Prophet have died meaning that his death is also part of Allah's sunnah. And Jesus came b4 the Holy Prophet meaning he too is dead. If the companions believed Isa was still alive, then why didn't they object to Hazrat Abu Bakr ? They could have objected that Isa is alive and so the Holy Prophet who is the Seal of all Prophets must also be alive. But nobody objected. Why? Because they knew Isa is dead. If he were alive, the verse should have stated clearly that he was an exception as his life and death is serious issue. But no. It didn't. U people fail to understand that, the belief that Jesus is still alive is an insult to the rank of the Holy Prophet. He is Khatam Nabiyeen, Kairul waraa, Rahmatun lil Aalameen. Etc. Yet he went through death. So how come Isa who is not any of that doesn't die just like all messengers like the Quran states?
البشت يعني انه عربي قح ;)
Your allah is lacking in justice. Allah doesnt punish sin. If hes unjust, he cannot be God. He also allows you to break ALL TEN COMMANDMENTS that were given to Moses. They were written in stone with Gods finger making them eternal. Also, why did allah create christianity, then punish christians for believing what he decieved them to believe? How can you KNOW that allah isnt decieving you? How can you sleep well at night knowing that your believing in a god that boasts in decieving? men?
The Christian God isn’t much just either. He lets sinners go without the punishment he made for them, but takes that same punishment himself(why would God create a punishment only for him to be the one who faces it?)As for the 10 commandments, it is similar to why Christian’s don’t follow the old Testament(abrogation and introduction of new rulings).
Also, the part of deceiving wasn’t talking about us, im pretty sure it was talking about people who tried to kill prophet Muhammad PBUH. Allah was deceiving them into thinking their plan would work.
And Allah didn’t create Christianity(though he didn’t stop it from forming either). This is a result of free will. And this is a weak argument either way because nearly any religion could be asked why their God let other religions be created. I could even ask you why your God let Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc be made.
😢😢 give up the stress and lies , who going to come back and judging his own creations , jesus is the first and the last , no one can get to the father but as to get through jesus ., he is the way the truth and the life 😊😊
Jesus is a part of creation what r u talking about
@@AliKB90 😂🤣😂 in flesh and blood you can says that but in reality he is god think ( IN THE BIGGINING WAS THE WORDS AND THE WORDS WAS WITH ( GOD ) AND THE WORDS BECAME FLESH . SO BEFORE JESUS BECAME FLESH WHO WAS HE .. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 FROM SPIRIT TO FLESH AND BLOOD .... JESUS IS GOD.... WHO IS THE BIGGINING AND THE END IN YOUR QURAN , THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA YOU LOST BIG TIME
10:50 😂😂😂😂
10:40 😂😂😂