It is mentioned in Quran that: مَا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَآ أَحَدٍ مِّن رِّجَالِكُمْ وَلَكِن رَّسُولَ اللَّهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيماً “Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Apostle of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things.” (33:40)
@@shakeelahmad-rp9fsThe prophethood of Jesus is already done and also we all know that he was sent only to the lost Israelites. Due to your lack of knowledge about this topic, the question now is for you: what will be the job of Jesus Christ pbuh when he come back ?! once you find the answer you will know about the truth of the Dajjal mirza ghulam.
@@shakeelahmad-rp9fs Since the number of christians who believe in trinity is really huge and frustrating, and from the wisdom of Allah he decided to send back Jesus pbuh not as a prophet but as a man following the teachings of Muhammad pbuh ( since his message is eternal and for all humanity ) clarifying the truth to the misguided people including ahmadis aswell as other sects. So it is all about the truth.
There’s a WhatsApp message in Ahmadi circles being spread that their Amir has banned any Ahmadi from debating at Speakers Corner. May Allah accept your efforts Adnan!
@@Ahmad-tj2ycdeal with the challenge from Adnan first. You people love to jump to the next topic and make excuses as to why you couldn't answer the current contention. Intellectually dishonest
On the day of Judgement, people will go to their Prophets to intercede on their behalf, all of the Prophets will say Nafsi Nafsi, eventually, people will come to Isa (Jesus) as, he will also say Nafsi Nafsi, but he will tell the people to go to Muhammad pbuh and Muhammad pbuh will be saying Ya Rabbi Ummati Ummati, Oh my Lord, my people, my people. He won't say go to Mirza Qadiyani.
I don’t understand why he refuses to discuss the death of prophet Jesus AS or “being alive somewhere for over 2000 years” using the Quran as the primary source? Why is so reluctant to do that?
Because first you need to show why you believe a liar dajjaal and kazzaab to be a prophet of Allah Once Mirza’s lies and deception are clear there’s no need to discuss topics relating to Muslims.
@@abukhadeejahit would be logical to discuss the holy Quran as all Muslims agree that it’s been preserved in terms of its accuracy and is the truth from over 1400 years. Right? That’s exactly what I did before accepting the truth , Ahmadi revert❤
Mirza was devoid of the basic understanding of Islam or history of Islam... For eg Mirza writes in Roohani Khazain, vol 23, that Prophet Mohammad's (saw) father died after the birth of Prophet (saw).... While authentic narration says otherwise which is well known in Muslim world.... Similarly mirza lier writes that Prophet Mohammad (saw) had 11 sons (roohani khazain vol 23, pg 299)....This level of blunder shows how unimaginable ignorance this guy had. Also it is clear that Jesus will come from sky (nazool e maseeh), and is backed by many sahih narrations... Also it is written in Sahih Muslim that Jesus(pbuh) will do Hajj.... Mirza never did so!.... This narration fully bulldozes him!...
Wow whats ut point 🤣🤣 he lied as if his a prophet the last prophet is muhammed peace be upon him we alll know this only the mushrakeeen and it is very sad that people decieved them i know they were born into it but if they look things up clearly they will understand theres no last prophet lol only muhammed peace be upon him Allah says in the quran we have completed your religion islam thats it its complete and when they say isas coming back so mihsmmed is not the last prophet thats ridiculous because he's only coming back because he up at nine in the first place, and he is it called back as a prophet lol he's coming back to establish islam all over the earth and clarify that prophet muhammed peace be upon him was truthful and wss the last prophet he will just be a leader the one to rule thats it lol he wont be coming down with a new sharia lol so i dont know why they twist things astagfirallah i hope allah guides them for real cuz can you to understand that they will be hell and heaven, and you will face allah and the fact that there is proof, and we know the prophet is the last one its crazy how they belive it obv i wouldnt blame them cuz they are brainwashed but once the truth and evidence is in front of you, and you, ignore then allah will punish u severly so I will suggest that you follow prophet muhammed peace upon him the quran his sunnah they are many deviants like the nation of islam who also think muhammed elizah is a prophet he decieved them also please do not be decieved like the rest we know theresgona be many people claiming to be prophets the prophet muhammed peace be upon him warned us about this we are all muslims adnan is doing this because he loves u guys thats the truth he doesnt want u to go jahanam otherwise he wouldnt be making videos and also going speakers corner spending hours because he actually cares he's already warned you guys and he's already made a video proving his a fake prophet and not only that we know there is no1 who is goong to claim prophethood after muhammed peace be upon him and anyone that does is a liar even when isa comes he wont claim prophethood because he already came, and did that he didnt die allah says they did not kill him nor was he crucified, but it appeared so unto them that means that it didn't happen it appeared, so it was either somebody else who allah made look like jesus or something else hapened that made them believe he was crucified we dont know what hapened allah doesnt say exactlly what happened butnwe kmow he did not die cuz it says that clearly and he was not crucified allah took him up thats it thats all it says so he was saved end of story thats the only reason why he cums back because he didnt die once a prophet dies they never come back even any human once they die they dont come back only on the day of ressurection so obv he didnt die thats why his coming back makes sense lol
I think that's enough Qadiani we can handle for the time being. It's kind of weird though seeing them pop up in numbers online and in Hyde Park all of a sudden.
Adnan did said it's enough for now, and he doesn't really enjoy doing this, just because Qadani called Adnan out now he's doing these for a whole week long.
I think Ahmed needs to 💯 go to Braford as suggested by brother Rasid .. Walahi it takes Ahmed over an hour to confirm yes the traslation of Harramazada. Ahmed should get 80 slashes for defending his so called prophet
I admire the way Adnan handled himself. He spoke in a dignified manner, no insults were thrown at Qadianis. His arguments were based on facts backed by evidence . An amazing debatir he is.I would love to be in his presence at speakers corner , InshaAllah
You admire him because he in some way reinforces in your mind that your religion is correct. We won the debate so our religion is correct...maybe..i dunno I used to do that...and tbf if you are not equipped with the knowledge of the quran and personal study isnt the foundation of your religion then you have to have muslims win every debate and see muslims thru adnan tinted glasses...because if adnan n co were seen to be unfair then it may rock the foundations of your faith. The quran...was the foundation of the nabi and his companions faith. They marveled at they Allah spoke and expounded ideas. Nowadays nobody has time to invest in Allahs love letter to humanity
More like these Adnan and co. are lost, since the Arabic idiom used by Ahmad (as) and Adnan's own scholars means a transgressor. They kept straw meaning and diverted from this topic, exhausting the conversation.
@@muhammadtayyabkharal7744 Congratulations, You're clearly unfamiliar with Arabic and Urdu idioms because it to can means those who are transgressors which is what Ahmad (as) himself stated when writing this. Adnan not only is ignorant of Arabic and Urdu but also a munafiq as these excerpt were against the christians not muslims, who went to extreme mockery and abuse of the Prophet (sa).
OMG you guys. The bottom line was simple: Allah said the Prophets are the best of us. Allah said he completed His deen. Allah made Prophet pbuh the seal of prophethood. Anyone who uses bad words, isn't amongst the best. He doesn't have the status of Allah's messenger. It's simple, Prophets don't use foul language. These guys were Allah's messengers...they did not use foul language.
@@PrayFirstPlayLaterwe keep the rules same , we keep how you misinterpret verses the same , we keep the way you misinterpret authentic and weak Hadiths , we keep it same the way you use fabricated Hadith , and now we can change the person from mirza to anyone else in the world and it will still make sense to you … we keep it the same way how mirza manipulated certain things and BOOOM there you go anyone can become prophet like mirza, because of idiots like you.
imagine someone made a purchase agreement and ran away with your product and in front of the court he said i will decide what that agreement actually means. 😂😂😂
He is stirring and avoiding the straight answers. This is the sign that Ahmadis does not accept mirza statements written in his own books. They cover for mirza as they are ashamed. What a shame that they jump from quote to quote. Avoiding the main topic.
Mansur: If someone calls you and your prophet a bastard, what would you understand by it? Qadiani: I will understand it depending on what he means by it. Basically, what this Qadiani is saying, is that if someone called your mother a whore in front of you, just ask him what he means by it first, don’t get angry and bash him!😂😂
Whoever believed that there was a Prophet after Muhammad then their shahada were canceled and they became Kafir (Disbeliever) Whoever won't call Kafir is Kafir then they are Kafir.
@@shakeelahmad-rp9fswe believe that there is no prophet that’s going to be revealed after prophet Mohamed (saw). Prophet Isa (as) was already revealed brother.
Dialogue Etiquette The interlocutors must adhere to a set of etiquette that makes the dialogue civilized and effective, which is a set of basic and necessary social skills that aim at positive communication between individual’s.
This guy backtracks on his words. He first agreed on the pharse and than denied and tryign to justify by saying its a contexts that you have to understand 😂
Same thing Adnan has done this recent stream, he doesn’t want to talk about hazrat isa because he knows he will automatically lose to that arguement, he keeps backtracking to talking about promised messiah’s character and asking us to come out in public so he could gang up on the Ahmadi’s honestly just wait till the day of judgement
@@aatifmehmood3385 he's asking to come out in public because they run away .apart from one or two many of them are not even scholars and don't have that knowledge. What's the difference between Christians Preachers, some Shias and ahmadis? They run away from the point, from the truth and go on a different tangent. Yes Allah knows best and judgment day everyone will know who passed and who failed. .
Nothing lesser than resound thrashing to all spin doctrines and falsehood claims made by the Ahmedi . Brother Adnan was meticulous and precise as usual with the dismantling of all the illogical, jahil and insincere claims put forward by the ahmedi and this will be yet another feather in brother Adnan's hat as a rebuttal to the Ahmedi claim, a rebuttal Inshahallah which will be heard all around the world, Inshahallah
Salaam. This was a great discussion and points being made by brother Adnan are very clear, not sure if Ahmad just failed to conprehend or sumply danced around it because his position is impossible to defend. Just a final comment, i think there was alot of talikng over one another. It would be great if each interlocutor is give a fair amount of time to make their points and the other to respond and so on. Keep up the great work brothers.
The Holy Prophet (PBUH) observed: "I am Muhammad, I am Ahmad, I am the effacer and infidelity shall be erased through me; I am the assembler. People shall be assembled on Doomsday after my time. (In other words Doom is my only successor.) And I am the last in the sense that no prophet shall succeed me." (Bukhari and Muslim, Kitab-ul-Fada'il, Bab: Asmaun-Nabi; Tirmidhi, Kitab-ul- Adab, Bab: Asma-un-Nabi; Muatta', Kitab-u-Asma in-Nabi, Al- Mustadrak Hakim, Kitab-ut-Tarikh, Bab: Asma-un-Nabi.)
Ahmad goes on this channel and plays the victim but he is absolutely rude by interrupting and not answering the questions. They always have to explain first before replying simple questions. It is ridiculous! It is as if they deliberately hijacking the Muslim channels. Shameful, Disrespectful, Cunning..
اعوذ بالله من الشیطان الرجیم قال الله تعالى: {مَا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَا أَحَدٍ مِنْ رِجَالِكُمْ وَلَكِنْ رَسُولَ اللهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَكَانَ اللهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمًا}(الأحزاب:40). قال الطبري: "ولكنه رسول الله وخاتم النبيين، الذي خَتَم النبوة فطبع عليها، فلا تُفتح لأحدٍ بعده إلى قيام الساعة".
Aslm brother Adnaan... Plz make a video of your own discussing the Qadiani, their origins, their misguided ways from their early years to now as well as the funding they receive from the British government to spread their lies.
Alhamdulliah Brother Rashid for your strong stance against these Qadianis. When challenged with authentic verses and teachings of Islam, they have no answer and they run away.
Adnan always interfered with Razi and stopped Razi each and every time when he tried to respond to all his false allegations. Adnan isn't a fair person.
Brother adnan being as educated as he is mashallah I dont think it's even worth debating a Ahmed on side issues when we can just clearly reject ahmedi religion as devient.. Why give these guys any platform
The problem of Adinani Sahib is this, he didn't know how to use the religious language, Islamic teminalogy it is recorded that, Imamu Ibni Mubaraka ar said, ولد زنا لا يكتم الحديث this is the Islamic terminology, and this was applied to Waleed ibni Mughira!! Because he was نميم
Listen, the guy needs to say it to his parents to their faces. Let the consequences happen, then claim: but I meant the mirzan words!!!! LOLOL his own parents wouldn't accept it. I mean let's test it! He just kept denying and deflecting when put on that spot.
Im not an ahmadi, but the ahmadi got bullied by adnan. Irrespective of the ahmadis belief the way you guys treated him was not fair If the ahmadi was replaced with a person that says allah had a son, like james white for example there is no way this debate would have gone the way it did. Muslim brothers, you cant pick and choose who you speak to with respect. If you dont respect him then dont invite him or debate him. If you are going to, debate like you do with james. You guys ganged up on him and didnt let him speak. Let him speak for gods sake and then reply like ppl with respect. What a waste of time, not good guys.
@@Amir.Qureshi no brother. I have seen these brothers debate with non muslims before. If they behaved like this with others, nobody would listen to them. If your point is that mr qadiani wasnt staying on point, at least let him speak. Then ask him again. Theres no excuse for this gang warfare and no positive outcome. After this qadianis will still think that muslims dont listen and have an agenda against them and the muslims will say yaaaay we won...we are right...pretty parhetic for a scholarly debate in my opinion.
This person is a Qadiani disguised as a non Qadiani. If this is what they took from this video then he is definitely a Qadiani. Because br Adnan showed immense patience, far from bullying to a caller who was disingenuous and argumentative.
@@ashaqhussain6902 we have gone one step further now i see...now you can see into my mind... mr ashaq our teaching is to accept the words of a person when he says what he is...unless "you cut my heart open and saw what was inside" as a beautiful nabi once said.
@zeabferoz8776 Nope. U didn't get the point. The guy kept on lying on every instant. When he was confronted he started saying yes yes. That's how it should go or he would have kept on manipulating the whole discussed. It would have been easy for him if he could simply said yes the word means " child of prostitute" which to he later admitted after your so called bullying.
By Allah I am a normal Muslim and hearing all these swear words was offensive for my ears - forget coming out of the mouth of a supposed prophet, subhanAllah!
This was a shouting contest. Absurd behaviour. That in itself speaks mountains. I agree with Ahmed when it came to the petty message of Adnan "I dont consider you a brother is Islam" (even if you believe that) what was the need to say such? You could have just continued to refer to him as "brother". That was poor and I do not see how grownups can encourage this. It might seem entertaining to the youths, but such messaging has negative consequences, especially as Qadianis/Ahmedis are persecuted. People should be aware that even putting your face publicly out there (say in Hyde Park) is a security risk to them. All it takes is one lunatic. It is a potential death threat. I have many Ahmedi friends and am aware of the atrocities that they have to endure. The event of the Lahore Attacks alone should have been a warning for Muslim Speakers/Preachers to choose their wording a bit more carefully. Referring to him as a non muslim was unrequired and ill intent. Next, the two hour wait (Mansur): Your guest waited two hours and instead of simply apologising for that, you chose a hostile/petty approach. That was a reflection of your character which is extremely disappointing. If you believe Qadianis are in the wrong, does it not make sense to change them through love and truth? Instead, with this approach, you probably already closed that window. Just from your mannerism. Adnan: You had literally way more speaking time and interrupted Ahmed so much that he pretty much could hardly ever finish his point. This is online. Explain to me how it would be any different in speakers corner? If you wish to have a sincere debate, do so in a controlled professional setting and learn to let the guest speak or finish the point. Ahmed: You also had moments where you interrupted Adnan, arguably because you are upset at how you were treated. Regardless in order to portray yourself of the highest character and represent your faith well, it would be wise for you to also let the others finish their points, despite them talking for many minutes and not letting you finish. Kudos however, for attending the platform of the opposition, likely knowing how you would be treated. So in that case, you should also have been prepared to respond adequately. Mohamed: You speak about attacking the character. Adnan was the first to call him disingenuous and cunning, then you attacked Ahmed for responding in the same manner. You should have cautioned both: Ahmed AND Adnan.
My guy then went on to talking about how he does *not* think that Qadianis/Ahmadis are *not* deserving of sympathy (i.e. believes that they DO deserve sympathy)..... then does this. If this is not hypocritical idk what is.... Literally reciting further hatred, rendering his statement redundant, conflicting himself and then wants to discus the character of their prophet/dajjal. Ironic much? How can one with a rational mindset truly view this mannerism as an example to follow? Can people actually realise that these Qadianis are prosecuted/murdered DUE TO THIS TYPE OF MESSAGING? Can we please grow up and understand that there are smarter ways around making a point. This was so attention seeking, it is sickening to think that so many impressionable young Muslims view them/him as an example. No wonder such atrocities tend to occur.
@@user-sc8bn6rc2r Unfortunately precisely the case. He is a undoubtedly a very knowledgeable man and knows how to make convincing arguments. I really hope he learns and reflects from this, because despite what the biased majority here might say, I can not help but think that this does not leave a good impression on his character. The panel and him to be honest should issue an apology for this misconduct given their reach and impact on the youth.
Adnan speaking nonstop then he goes "you're making it difficult for having conversation" hahaha talk about delusional person right there, the other guy literally havent spoken for 10 mins and he says HE'S (the non-spoken person) having it difficult to have conversation.. I can't believe people can be this tunnel visioned and not see reality its crazy. After that the other guy who havent spoken, opened his mouth for 5 seconds and adnan interjects instantly and start cutting him off (THE PANEL IS OK WITH IT) cause adnan is their friend. Then when that poor guy interjects ONE TIME, he's been called out....do you see reality people? or are you just living inside of a bubble, I really can't believe my eyes.
Although I say this, I want people to understand that I am a sunni Muslim and I like Adnan as a matter of fact his arguments are really good...but I only don't like that he talks all the time and not let his opponent speak. Having said that I still think his opponent had no basis with all of what was said. Adnan argument is 100% correct and I agree with it but please let the other guy talk man.
How can they let him talk when he make a false claim and move on to another. He first claimed that Mirza didn't used the word "Haraamzada". When Adnan showed him from his book, he backtracked and tried to defend the context around it. He then said that "Haraamzada" doesn't haraamzada, and it means something else and he used the Arabic word Zurriyatul Baghaya", which again Adnan showed that it meant the same thing, "A bastard child". How can you have patience with someone like that?
Glad more people view it this way. If the goal was the pursuit of truth, then this was not it. This was a shouting contest, similar to what would happen at Speakers Corner. Therefore, a debate needs to be had in a professional setting agreed upon by both parties. If the goal is truth.
The Sunni brothers refuse to answer any allegations! they are the true spinners. When the Ahmadi tries to debate as they do, they feel it necessary. Why are they afraid to discuss. They need to validate themselves. Why do they not discuss the core issues of death of Eisa. They behave like nonMuslims who attack the character of the Prophet Muhammad (saw). Even when they refute the character attacks, they hop and hop without addressing
@@asadzaidi6188 Look at how your scholars are scared of letting a young Ahmadi speak! May Allah Guide you all on His true path, away from such deceptive people.
@@rahmannasir1994 Because Prophet Muhammad never told anyone "Son of Prostitut" but mirza did... Non Muslims lie on our prophet and his character but mirza wrote his own loose charactership in his writings
@@rahmannasir1994 may Allah keep me as far away from the path you currently follow. Your Qadiyanis just know one thing. Change the topic and not give answers. What the Muslim brothers did was not let him wiggle and do hoola hoops around the topic and kept him on topic which he failed to defend. Your prophet accused people of being Waladul haraam without proof, failed to bring forth four witnesses to prove his claim, and his testimony is forever now null and void as he has been proven to lie. Your name, Rahman Nasir, has the name of Allah, if you are truly afraid of Allah, have his fear in your heart, you should search why no one among the Sahaba or the Salaf ever were looking for an ummati nabi to ever come. This aqeedah of khatme nabuwwat is basically an ijmah among the ummah and has been since day one. There are Hadith why certain companions didn't get prophethood because there couldn't be any more to come. Ali (RA) was even compared to Haroon (AS) but couldn't be a nabi because it ended at Prophet Muhammad (SAW), You should lookup the hadiths clearly mentioning La Nabi a ba'adi. There is no prophet after Prophet Muhammad. The building of prophethood has been competed with our Prophet Muhammad (SAW) being the last piece in it. No space left for anyone else with Hazrat Isa already being there. I can give you arguments after arguments with clear meaning, no jumping around the bush, no hopping around and clutching at straws trying and failing to prove Mirza Qadiyyani. His name might have been Ghulam Ahmad (slave of Ahmad) yet he was the biggest traitor to Ahmad (SAW)
Nothing short of a shouting contest here. Ill conduct by Mansur and Adnan speaking for like 15 minutes straight then accusing Ahmed of talking too much. Ironic?
I did not like the way brother Mansur leads and moderstes the debate. He seems to be too harsh. I prefere Adnan's way of debating. He is very friendly and intelligent in his manners.
@@LogicPakthey are together giving dawah for one purpose. And U r saying bangli or non bangali? Typical Pakistani racist view. This is the reason why Pakistan is in this situation today. U guys r racist
I feel like brother Mansur was being way to charitable! I would have booted this baghaiytul zada long time ago! He was cutting brother's off left and right, and not responding to their questions!
Greatly disappointing from the panel in my honest view. Despite not being very taught in Islam, the mannerism here alone speaks volumes. Letting the guest wait for two hours and instead of the simple etiquette of apologising, it went to a petty response of "taught you a lesson in patience". Absurd. I would perhaps expect this behaviour from my 6 year old niece, not a grown man who is meant to be an advocate of your religion. Next, this was nothing short of a shouting contest. It was extremely hard to hear the opinions/statements of the counter party to actually absorb. I guess that is to be expected when you show up to a panel debate/discussion of the "opposition". There was no pursuit of truth here and Adnan certainly had WAY more time to make his points than the opposition - objectively speaking. Cant deny that AhmadR also spoke over Adnan however, but lowkey to be expected if his "founder is insulted", especially if his speaking time was WAY less plagued with way more interruptions. I just don't see how anyone can deny this. Anyone that attended/partook in official debates (such as at unis or in a professional setting) knows this was not one. I just hope the readers are made aware of this prior to "jumping the gun". Then again... its the internet loool.
It's because of Razi's behaviour. I am amazed how frequently he takes things out of contest to claim victory, which makes him look like a child. Recently he uploaded a video claiming victory when brother Adnan gave out a debate challenge about specific topics to the gentleman at speakers corner. I mean, seriously? No wonder brother Adnan wants to save his time and energy for someone more serious, mature and knowledgeable.
If he is in any way like this ahmadr guy, trying to wiggle out, trying to jump hoops and trying to change topics when the topic of debate is whether Mirza qadiyani used these terms, yet he is jumping and running around. You guys are so funny. Even a child in Pakistan knows what haramzada means. It's not what your false prophet claims it means. Last point. You guys get so much support from the govt of Kaffirs, Germany UK and rest of Europe, because you are their tool of weakening islam. What a runner this guy is just like you guys are runners.
Adnan's scared. Razi is a torn in their eyes! Abdul-Razack was called out by his own scholars, due to his blunders when engaging with Razi. None dares to respond to Razi.
Why don't your Razi Sahab set up a debate with Basheer Ahmad? Sahih Bukhari 2476: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allāh’s Apostle ﷺ said, “The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts). Mirza Ghalam Qadiani claimed to be an incarnation of Essa AS, and we have a clear cut hadith from Muhammad SAW that ESSA AS will return at the end of times and do these things. Did Mirza Ghulam did that or are you a hadith rejector now?
Pls frgive my shortcomings Brother you keep going in circles and you also keep interrupting him too. And he waited over 2hours to speak to u. answer his questions brother mke it friendly and sincere for the viewers
Absolutely feel the same way! Despite the arguably "biased" comments, I cannot see how this mannerism made Islam as a whole appear as a loving religion, especially if the people here are meant to be a reflection of the religion - to some degree that is.
i left ahmadi recently people i am sunni now pray for me
Welcome home brother.
Be just a Muslim no sect follow Quran and sunnah
Mashallah bro may Allah bless you
@@zakariakakar1 impossible, you have to follow a madhab( school of thought) otherwise you’ll have no consistency when it comes to fiqh.
Ameen we will
The Holy Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is the last prophet.
It is mentioned in Quran that:
مَا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَآ أَحَدٍ مِّن رِّجَالِكُمْ وَلَكِن رَّسُولَ اللَّهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيماً
“Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Apostle of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things.” (33:40)
No doubt! Allahu Akbar!!!
He fooled you that he was.
@@shakeelahmad-rp9fsThe prophethood of Jesus is already done and also we all know that he was sent only to the lost Israelites. Due to your lack of knowledge about this topic, the question now is for you: what will be the job of Jesus Christ pbuh when he come back ?! once you find the answer you will know about the truth of the Dajjal mirza ghulam.
@@shakeelahmad-rp9fs Since the number of christians who believe in trinity is really huge and frustrating, and from the wisdom of Allah he decided to send back Jesus pbuh not as a prophet but as a man following the teachings of Muhammad pbuh ( since his message is eternal and for all humanity ) clarifying the truth to the misguided people including ahmadis aswell as other sects. So it is all about the truth.
He waited for two long hours to be schooled and exposed 😂
There’s a WhatsApp message in Ahmadi circles being spread that their Amir has banned any Ahmadi from debating at Speakers Corner. May Allah accept your efforts Adnan!
so they're hiding now 🤣🤣🤣 wallah they got exposed. amazing from Adnan
Asalaam Alaiqum Waraqhmutullahi Wahbarakatuhu please share the message with Brother Adnan Rashid and other Daees at speakers corner
Amin Ya Allah ❤
This sounds about right they are in panic mode because of Adnan
@@Ahmad-tj2ycdeal with the challenge from Adnan first. You people love to jump to the next topic and make excuses as to why you couldn't answer the current contention. Intellectually dishonest
Ahmed's argument was weaker than Adnan's internet connection😅
Weaker then nothing) liars of dajjal
😂😂
Good one
🤔 you sons of Abu Jahal 🤫 How many of you were sworn and cursed at by your parents 🤬 when you angered them 🥴 did they mean it 😉
😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼
On the day of Judgement, people will go to their Prophets to intercede on their behalf, all of the Prophets will say Nafsi Nafsi, eventually, people will come to Isa (Jesus) as, he will also say Nafsi Nafsi, but he will tell the people to go to Muhammad pbuh and Muhammad pbuh will be saying Ya Rabbi Ummati Ummati, Oh my Lord, my people, my people. He won't say go to Mirza Qadiyani.
@@PrayFirstPlayLatermay Allah's curse be upon kadianis and their fake prophet mirza. No wonder he died in a toilet
I love this comment! may Allah swt continue to Bless you Brother
The moment ustad Adnan said.. "Don't kick him out" I knew this was about to get heavy!😅
Arrogant behaviour that is
He waited 2 hours for what to act dumb lol
"There is no prophet afteer me"
DONE. KHALLAS. END OF CONVERSATION!
Allah give Brother Adnan more Knowledge ❤
The way Brother Adnan "Brother in Muslims 😅" explained everything Mashallah🥰
The dumb the blind the deaf they are is no other words.
BIG!!! UP!!! Brother Ustadh Adnan Rashid, your efforts will be recorded in history.
I don’t understand why he refuses to discuss the death of prophet Jesus AS or “being alive somewhere for over 2000 years” using the Quran as the primary source? Why is so reluctant to do that?
Because first you need to show why you believe a liar dajjaal and kazzaab to be a prophet of Allah
Once Mirza’s lies and deception are clear there’s no need to discuss topics relating to Muslims.
@SHGG0 walaikum salam
@@abukhadeejahit would be logical to discuss the holy Quran as all Muslims agree that it’s been preserved in terms of its accuracy and is the truth from over 1400 years. Right?
That’s exactly what I did before accepting the truth , Ahmadi revert❤
@SHGG0show evidence for this, exactly where does it say this, give reference for that with the initial Arabic too, If he is alive, where is he ?
May Allah reward you for your patience. You handled the conversation with respect 👍🏼
Ahmed on the grill 😂😂😂
Mirza was devoid of the basic understanding of Islam or history of Islam... For eg Mirza writes in Roohani Khazain, vol 23, that Prophet Mohammad's (saw) father died after the birth of Prophet (saw).... While authentic narration says otherwise which is well known in Muslim world....
Similarly mirza lier writes that Prophet Mohammad (saw) had 11 sons (roohani khazain vol 23, pg 299)....This level of blunder shows how unimaginable ignorance this guy had.
Also it is clear that Jesus will come from sky (nazool e maseeh), and is backed by many sahih narrations...
Also it is written in Sahih Muslim that Jesus(pbuh) will do Hajj.... Mirza never did so!.... This narration fully bulldozes him!...
Wow whats ut point 🤣🤣 he lied as if his a prophet the last prophet is muhammed peace be upon him we alll know this only the mushrakeeen and it is very sad that people decieved them i know they were born into it but if they look things up clearly they will understand theres no last prophet lol only muhammed peace be upon him
Allah says in the quran we have completed your religion islam thats it its complete and when they say isas coming back so mihsmmed is not the last prophet thats ridiculous because he's only coming back because he up at nine in the first place, and he is it called back as a prophet lol he's coming back to establish islam all over the earth and clarify that prophet muhammed peace be upon him was truthful and wss the last prophet he will just be a leader the one to rule thats it lol he wont be coming down with a new sharia lol so i dont know why they twist things astagfirallah i hope allah guides them for real cuz can you to understand that they will be hell and heaven, and you will face allah and the fact that there is proof, and we know the prophet is the last one its crazy how they belive it obv i wouldnt blame them cuz they are brainwashed but once the truth and evidence is in front of you, and you, ignore then allah will punish u severly so I will suggest that you follow prophet muhammed peace upon him the quran his sunnah they are many deviants like the nation of islam who also think muhammed elizah is a prophet he decieved them also please do not be decieved like the rest we know theresgona be many people claiming to be prophets the prophet muhammed peace be upon him warned us about this we are all muslims adnan is doing this because he loves u guys thats the truth he doesnt want u to go jahanam otherwise he wouldnt be making videos and also going speakers corner spending hours because he actually cares he's already warned you guys and he's already made a video proving his a fake prophet and not only that we know there is no1 who is goong to claim prophethood after muhammed peace be upon him and anyone that does is a liar even when isa comes he wont claim prophethood because he already came, and did that he didnt die allah says they did not kill him nor was he crucified, but it appeared so unto them that means that it didn't happen it appeared, so it was either somebody else who allah made look like jesus or something else hapened that made them believe he was crucified we dont know what hapened allah doesnt say exactlly what happened butnwe kmow he did not die cuz it says that clearly and he was not crucified allah took him up thats it thats all it says so he was saved end of story thats the only reason why he cums back because he didnt die once a prophet dies they never come back even any human once they die they dont come back only on the day of ressurection so obv he didnt die thats why his coming back makes sense lol
@@sararae5994 THAT'S MAIN POINT.
It was village people that fell for his deception; but in this day and age they have followers is beyond my understanding. People are morons
Can you show this to me?
I think that's enough Qadiani we can handle for the time being. It's kind of weird though seeing them pop up in numbers online and in Hyde Park all of a sudden.
It's cos a few weeks ago some young guy was made to look stupid and they had to send big guns to defend themselves. LOL
@@mqb5151
To be honest, every Qadiani appears stupid when explaining and defending his religion
@@mqb5151lol they even sending their missionaries in the comment section to fill it with their claims
Adnan did said it's enough for now, and he doesn't really enjoy doing this, just because Qadani called Adnan out now he's doing these for a whole week long.
They are also out in Hounslow highstreet.
Well done brother Adnan.. exposed these deviants !Alhamdulillah
This isn’t a debate, this needs to be better moderate
True warriors of Islamic Dawah
Lanat on qadhyani.
I think Ahmed needs to 💯 go to Braford as suggested by brother Rasid .. Walahi it takes Ahmed over an hour to confirm yes the traslation of Harramazada.
Ahmed should get 80 slashes for defending his so called prophet
This stream would have ended in 20ish min if Ahmed had more than 3 braincells 😅
I admire the way Adnan handled himself. He spoke in a dignified manner, no insults were thrown at Qadianis. His arguments were based on facts backed by evidence . An amazing debatir he is.I would love to be in his presence at speakers corner , InshaAllah
Really? Which debate did you watch, not this one clearly
@@zeabferoz8776 Literally. Such an oblivious statement made by Jamshed.
You admire him because he in some way reinforces in your mind that your religion is correct.
We won the debate so our religion is correct...maybe..i dunno
I used to do that...and tbf if you are not equipped with the knowledge of the quran and personal study isnt the foundation of your religion then you have to have muslims win every debate and see muslims thru adnan tinted glasses...because if adnan n co were seen to be unfair then it may rock the foundations of your faith.
The quran...was the foundation of the nabi and his companions faith. They marveled at they Allah spoke and expounded ideas.
Nowadays nobody has time to invest in Allahs love letter to humanity
@@zeabferoz8776 I agree with you!
Are you guys qadianis
His false prophet is a haramzada
My gosh 😲
90+ minutes to explain one word.
These Ahmadis are lost
More like these Adnan and co. are lost, since the Arabic idiom used by Ahmad (as) and Adnan's own scholars means a transgressor. They kept straw meaning and diverted from this topic, exhausting the conversation.
@@iceman94713I'm from Pakistan and I confirm what Adnan said about meaning of Haram zada.
It literally means bastard child.
@@muhammadtayyabkharal7744
Congratulations,
You're clearly unfamiliar with Arabic and Urdu idioms because it to can means those who are transgressors which is what Ahmad (as) himself stated when writing this. Adnan not only is ignorant of Arabic and Urdu but also a munafiq as these excerpt were against the christians not muslims, who went to extreme mockery and abuse of the Prophet (sa).
OMG you guys. The bottom line was simple: Allah said the Prophets are the best of us.
Allah said he completed His deen.
Allah made Prophet pbuh the seal of prophethood.
Anyone who uses bad words, isn't amongst the best. He doesn't have the status of Allah's messenger. It's simple, Prophets don't use foul language. These guys were Allah's messengers...they did not use foul language.
@@PrayFirstPlayLaterwe keep the rules same , we keep how you misinterpret verses the same , we keep the way you misinterpret authentic and weak Hadiths , we keep it same the way you use fabricated Hadith , and now we can change the person from mirza to anyone else in the world and it will still make sense to you … we keep it the same way how mirza manipulated certain things and BOOOM there you go anyone can become prophet like mirza, because of idiots like you.
Qadiani: That word nowhere to be found 1:46, then later start defending it.
Shame on you
@@Ahmad-tj2yc now you think that you are making sense. What does duriyatul bagaya means.
" it means what it means " 😂😂😂
@@Ahmad-tj2ycyou're a shameless liar, let's talk you coward
@@Ahmad-tj2ycdid mirza use kanjario ka bacha at all or not?
@@fidelcatsro6948😂😂😂
When you show them a mirror they scared seeing themselves.
Ahmadis give the most emotional arguments ever 😅😅
imagine someone made a purchase agreement and ran away with your product and in front of the court he said i will decide what that agreement actually means. 😂😂😂
Islam isn't a product nor any human being has its copyright, you are like jahil Pakistani mullahs.
Well done Adnan you smashed it 👍👍
Ahmed is just rude. He does not want their followers to hear facts.
He is stirring and avoiding the straight answers. This is the sign that Ahmadis does not accept mirza statements written in his own books. They cover for mirza as they are ashamed. What a shame that they jump from quote to quote. Avoiding the main topic.
😮Claiming their teacher is a Prophet of Allah. That's such a lie. Their Shahada flies out the window. They are lost
One thing i give credit to this guy. His arabic seems to be better than his so called Khalifa 😂
@@PrayFirstPlayLater if they struggling. Then they shouldn't be the khalifa 'fool'
Brother Adnan, the coward failed to come to speakers corner
@@valourz1398 coward isn't an insult word, especially if the case is true.
he should at least put on a mickey mouse mask and show himself online
Mansur: If someone calls you and your prophet a bastard, what would you understand by it?
Qadiani: I will understand it depending on what he means by it.
Basically, what this Qadiani is saying, is that if someone called your mother a whore in front of you, just ask him what he means by it first, don’t get angry and bash him!😂😂
Hahaha seriously this guy from ahmediya cult was exposing ahmediya cult even more but in his ignorant arrogant mind he was doing great 😂
Bro adanan nailed it.. exposed forever ♾️..
MashaAllah
Rivet in the Kafan of the Qadyani Janaza
Well done Adnan ..
Whoever believed that there was a Prophet after Muhammad then their shahada were canceled and they became Kafir (Disbeliever)
Whoever won't call Kafir is Kafir then they are Kafir.
"Muhammad SaliAllahu We Salam" Our Belowed Prophet May Peace And Blessings Be Upon Him! Don't forget brother, he is not just another Man!
@@shakeelahmad-rp9fs Show me your refference from Alquran and hadith about that?
@@shakeelahmad-rp9fswe believe that there is no prophet that’s going to be revealed after prophet Mohamed (saw). Prophet Isa (as) was already revealed brother.
@@AbdirahmanMohamed-vv6mc Ahmadiyah cannot even understand the simple common sense, may Allah give them hidayah to the truth of Islam.
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May Allah protect you ya Ustaad.
Rashid agabey. Respect from Turkey. I wish you good health and a long life. For you may do your invaluable dawah work as long as possible.
Dialogue Etiquette The interlocutors must adhere to a set of etiquette that makes the dialogue civilized and effective, which is a set of basic and necessary social skills that aim at positive communication between individual’s.
It’s like this Ahmad guy is getting lashed. It hurts him so much you can tell by his voice.
Mirza Gulam (dysentry be upon him)
Is it true he died of dysentery?
Let the people decide🩻
I 🫶 that phrase
Alhamdulillah for being upon Al-Haqq. I feel blessed. What a gift.
This ahmadi is more lost than most ahmadi he denied his own sources 😅
This guy backtracks on his words. He first agreed on the pharse and than denied and tryign to justify by saying its a contexts that you have to understand 😂
Same thing Adnan has done this recent stream, he doesn’t want to talk about hazrat isa because he knows he will automatically lose to that arguement, he keeps backtracking to talking about promised messiah’s character and asking us to come out in public so he could gang up on the Ahmadi’s honestly just wait till the day of judgement
@@aatifmehmood3385 he's asking to come out in public because they run away .apart from one or two many of them are not even scholars and don't have that knowledge. What's the difference between Christians Preachers, some Shias and ahmadis? They run away from the point, from the truth and go on a different tangent.
Yes Allah knows best and judgment day everyone will know who passed and who failed. .
Nothing lesser than resound thrashing to all spin doctrines and falsehood claims made by the Ahmedi .
Brother Adnan was meticulous and precise as usual with the dismantling of all the illogical, jahil and insincere claims put forward by the ahmedi and this will be yet another feather in brother Adnan's hat as a rebuttal to the Ahmedi claim, a rebuttal Inshahallah which will be heard all around the world, Inshahallah
That was so painful to watch.
The guy ahmed has some kind of barrier in his head. Nothing enters no matter how hard you hit it.
Brother Adnan may Allah bless you 🤲🏼
Masha Allah brother Adnan... You totally exposed him
Please don’t give platform to Fools
Mansur did not come across as accommodative
Good job brother Adnan 👍👏
Salaam. This was a great discussion and points being made by brother Adnan are very clear, not sure if Ahmad just failed to conprehend or sumply danced around it because his position is impossible to defend.
Just a final comment, i think there was alot of talikng over one another. It would be great if each interlocutor is give a fair amount of time to make their points and the other to respond and so on.
Keep up the great work brothers.
The Holy Prophet (PBUH) observed: "I am Muhammad, I am Ahmad, I am the effacer and infidelity shall be erased through me; I am the assembler. People shall be assembled on Doomsday after my time. (In other words Doom is my only successor.) And I am the last in the sense that no prophet shall succeed me." (Bukhari and Muslim, Kitab-ul-Fada'il, Bab: Asmaun-Nabi; Tirmidhi, Kitab-ul- Adab, Bab: Asma-un-Nabi; Muatta', Kitab-u-Asma in-Nabi, Al- Mustadrak Hakim, Kitab-ut-Tarikh, Bab: Asma-un-Nabi.)
Ahmed needs to change his name to teflon. such a dodger, never answer a question directly.
tetraflorohydro-dysentric
Ahmad goes on this channel and plays the victim but he is absolutely rude by interrupting and not answering the questions. They always have to explain first before replying simple questions. It is ridiculous! It is as if they deliberately hijacking the Muslim channels. Shameful, Disrespectful, Cunning..
Light work for Ustad Adnan. Allahumma barik
اعوذ بالله من الشیطان الرجیم
قال الله تعالى:
{مَا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَا أَحَدٍ مِنْ رِجَالِكُمْ وَلَكِنْ رَسُولَ اللهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَكَانَ اللهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمًا}(الأحزاب:40). قال الطبري: "ولكنه رسول الله وخاتم النبيين، الذي خَتَم النبوة فطبع عليها، فلا تُفتح لأحدٍ بعده إلى قيام الساعة".
The end is near for the Ahmadi Qadiani. Allah will guide them Inshallah
Walahi theyre Finitos!
He was ducking , you handed he's backside to him
Q1. Did Mirza Ghulam lied in light of his own writtings?
Yes, these are his writings.... Roohani Khazain.
This question is a chain ball to them.
Aslm brother Adnaan... Plz make a video of your own discussing the Qadiani, their origins, their misguided ways from their early years to now as well as the funding they receive from the British government to spread their lies.
They need to let them show their face. They are brave when no one knows what they look like.
Read the Prophets PBUH last Sermon "O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born" End of discussion.
Alhamdulliah Brother Rashid for your strong stance against these Qadianis. When challenged with authentic verses and teachings of Islam, they have no answer and they run away.
They exactly act like christians, first come and lie about islam and then when muslims expose them then they start running 😂
Adnan always interfered with Razi and stopped Razi each and every time when he tried to respond to all his false allegations. Adnan isn't a fair person.
And what did this guy do? He simply wouldn't answer, read, got angry
Sir Adnan Rashid, I would like you start breaking down "Ismialism/agakhannis" as well just like Ahmadiyass
the deviant died sitting on the toilet which was next to his bed portable one doing the number two suffering from diarrhea
Brother adnan being as educated as he is mashallah I dont think it's even worth debating a Ahmed on side issues when we can just clearly reject ahmedi religion as devient.. Why give these guys any platform
May be that can be the source for them to get hidayah.
@@PrayFirstPlayLater they are not...its fake all a along
The problem of Adinani Sahib is this, he didn't know how to use the religious language, Islamic teminalogy it is recorded that, Imamu Ibni Mubaraka ar said, ولد زنا لا يكتم الحديث this is the Islamic terminology, and this was applied to Waleed ibni Mughira!! Because he was نميم
Many have left because seeing the holes in their belief
Brother Adnan is to strong for this individual..Al Hamdulilah Rabbil Alameen
Let alone brother Adnan, any muslim with very basic understanding of islam can even expose ahmediya cult.
Listen, the guy needs to say it to his parents to their faces. Let the consequences happen, then claim: but I meant the mirzan words!!!! LOLOL his own parents wouldn't accept it.
I mean let's test it!
He just kept denying and deflecting when put on that spot.
He wants to burn in hell, and can't understand why everyone is stopping him
Im not an ahmadi, but the ahmadi got bullied by adnan.
Irrespective of the ahmadis belief the way you guys treated him was not fair
If the ahmadi was replaced with a person that says allah had a son, like james white for example there is no way this debate would have gone the way it did.
Muslim brothers, you cant pick and choose who you speak to with respect. If you dont respect him then dont invite him or debate him.
If you are going to, debate like you do with james. You guys ganged up on him and didnt let him speak. Let him speak for gods sake and then reply like ppl with respect.
What a waste of time, not good guys.
@@Amir.Qureshi no brother. I have seen these brothers debate with non muslims before. If they behaved like this with others, nobody would listen to them.
If your point is that mr qadiani wasnt staying on point, at least let him speak. Then ask him again. Theres no excuse for this gang warfare and no positive outcome. After this qadianis will still think that muslims dont listen and have an agenda against them and the muslims will say yaaaay we won...we are right...pretty parhetic for a scholarly debate in my opinion.
This person is a Qadiani disguised as a non Qadiani. If this is what they took from this video then he is definitely a Qadiani. Because br Adnan showed immense patience, far from bullying to a caller who was disingenuous and argumentative.
Kind of very strange how we got multiple comments of “ I am not Ahmadi”... This Qadiyanis missionaries using subterfuge.
@@ashaqhussain6902 we have gone one step further now i see...now you can see into my mind... mr ashaq our teaching is to accept the words of a person when he says what he is...unless "you cut my heart open and saw what was inside" as a beautiful nabi once said.
@zeabferoz8776 Nope. U didn't get the point. The guy kept on lying on every instant.
When he was confronted he started saying yes yes.
That's how it should go or he would have kept on manipulating the whole discussed.
It would have been easy for him if he could simply said yes the word means " child of prostitute" which to he later admitted after your so called bullying.
1.02.01 time see "kharaab aurtaiy" Adnan bhai nailed it
rule no 1 ,never talk to jahel ,
By Allah I am a normal Muslim and hearing all these swear words was offensive for my ears - forget coming out of the mouth of a supposed prophet, subhanAllah!
The audacity of Mansur giving Ahmad a lecture about listening and letting others finish and staying silence when Adnan keeps interrupting.
I'm asking same question
This was a shouting contest. Absurd behaviour. That in itself speaks mountains.
I agree with Ahmed when it came to the petty message of Adnan "I dont consider you a brother is Islam" (even if you believe that) what was the need to say such? You could have just continued to refer to him as "brother". That was poor and I do not see how grownups can encourage this. It might seem entertaining to the youths, but such messaging has negative consequences, especially as Qadianis/Ahmedis are persecuted.
People should be aware that even putting your face publicly out there (say in Hyde Park) is a security risk to them. All it takes is one lunatic. It is a potential death threat. I have many Ahmedi friends and am aware of the atrocities that they have to endure. The event of the Lahore Attacks alone should have been a warning for Muslim Speakers/Preachers to choose their wording a bit more carefully. Referring to him as a non muslim was unrequired and ill intent.
Next, the two hour wait (Mansur): Your guest waited two hours and instead of simply apologising for that, you chose a hostile/petty approach. That was a reflection of your character which is extremely disappointing. If you believe Qadianis are in the wrong, does it not make sense to change them through love and truth? Instead, with this approach, you probably already closed that window. Just from your mannerism.
Adnan: You had literally way more speaking time and interrupted Ahmed so much that he pretty much could hardly ever finish his point. This is online. Explain to me how it would be any different in speakers corner? If you wish to have a sincere debate, do so in a controlled professional setting and learn to let the guest speak or finish the point.
Ahmed: You also had moments where you interrupted Adnan, arguably because you are upset at how you were treated. Regardless in order to portray yourself of the highest character and represent your faith well, it would be wise for you to also let the others finish their points, despite them talking for many minutes and not letting you finish. Kudos however, for attending the platform of the opposition, likely knowing how you would be treated. So in that case, you should also have been prepared to respond adequately.
Mohamed: You speak about attacking the character. Adnan was the first to call him disingenuous and cunning, then you attacked Ahmed for responding in the same manner. You should have cautioned both: Ahmed AND Adnan.
My guy then went on to talking about how he does *not* think that Qadianis/Ahmadis are *not* deserving of sympathy (i.e. believes that they DO deserve sympathy)..... then does this. If this is not hypocritical idk what is.... Literally reciting further hatred, rendering his statement redundant, conflicting himself and then wants to discus the character of their prophet/dajjal. Ironic much?
How can one with a rational mindset truly view this mannerism as an example to follow?
Can people actually realise that these Qadianis are prosecuted/murdered DUE TO THIS TYPE OF MESSAGING?
Can we please grow up and understand that there are smarter ways around making a point. This was so attention seeking, it is sickening to think that so many impressionable young Muslims view them/him as an example. No wonder such atrocities tend to occur.
@@user-sc8bn6rc2r Unfortunately precisely the case. He is a undoubtedly a very knowledgeable man and knows how to make convincing arguments. I really hope he learns and reflects from this, because despite what the biased majority here might say, I can not help but think that this does not leave a good impression on his character. The panel and him to be honest should issue an apology for this misconduct given their reach and impact on the youth.
Qadiani are Kafir may Allah guide them it’s better you repent before you hit the grave
Damn are you using logical fallacies such as a strawman to defend AhmadR? That's pathetic 🤣
@@user-sc8bn6rc2r another Ahmadi crying.
The Ahmadi turned very rude towards the end. Why not accept you lost the argument from Mirzas own texts?
Adnan speaking nonstop then he goes "you're making it difficult for having conversation" hahaha talk about delusional person right there, the other guy literally havent spoken for 10 mins and he says HE'S (the non-spoken person) having it difficult to have conversation.. I can't believe people can be this tunnel visioned and not see reality its crazy.
After that the other guy who havent spoken, opened his mouth for 5 seconds and adnan interjects instantly and start cutting him off (THE PANEL IS OK WITH IT) cause adnan is their friend.
Then when that poor guy interjects ONE TIME, he's been called out....do you see reality people? or are you just living inside of a bubble, I really can't believe my eyes.
Although I say this, I want people to understand that I am a sunni Muslim and I like Adnan as a matter of fact his arguments are really good...but I only don't like that he talks all the time and not let his opponent speak. Having said that I still think his opponent had no basis with all of what was said. Adnan argument is 100% correct and I agree with it but please let the other guy talk man.
How can they let him talk when he make a false claim and move on to another. He first claimed that Mirza didn't used the word "Haraamzada". When Adnan showed him from his book, he backtracked and tried to defend the context around it. He then said that "Haraamzada" doesn't haraamzada, and it means something else and he used the Arabic word Zurriyatul Baghaya", which again Adnan showed that it meant the same thing, "A bastard child". How can you have patience with someone like that?
Glad more people view it this way. If the goal was the pursuit of truth, then this was not it. This was a shouting contest, similar to what would happen at Speakers Corner. Therefore, a debate needs to be had in a professional setting agreed upon by both parties. If the goal is truth.
What I saw was the Qadiyani every time he spoke was trying to divert the conversation to a different topic.
The Sunni brothers refuse to answer any allegations! they are the true spinners. When the Ahmadi tries to debate as they do, they feel it necessary. Why are they afraid to discuss. They need to validate themselves. Why do they not discuss the core issues of death of Eisa. They behave like nonMuslims who attack the character of the Prophet Muhammad (saw). Even when they refute the character attacks, they hop and hop without addressing
If you are ahmadi may Allah guide you.
@@asadzaidi6188 Look at how your scholars are scared of letting a young Ahmadi speak! May Allah Guide you all on His true path, away from such deceptive people.
@@rahmannasir1994 Because Prophet Muhammad never told anyone "Son of Prostitut" but mirza did... Non Muslims lie on our prophet and his character but mirza wrote his own loose charactership in his writings
@@rahmannasir1994 may Allah keep me as far away from the path you currently follow. Your Qadiyanis just know one thing. Change the topic and not give answers. What the Muslim brothers did was not let him wiggle and do hoola hoops around the topic and kept him on topic which he failed to defend. Your prophet accused people of being Waladul haraam without proof, failed to bring forth four witnesses to prove his claim, and his testimony is forever now null and void as he has been proven to lie.
Your name, Rahman Nasir, has the name of Allah, if you are truly afraid of Allah, have his fear in your heart, you should search why no one among the Sahaba or the Salaf ever were looking for an ummati nabi to ever come. This aqeedah of khatme nabuwwat is basically an ijmah among the ummah and has been since day one. There are Hadith why certain companions didn't get prophethood because there couldn't be any more to come. Ali (RA) was even compared to Haroon (AS) but couldn't be a nabi because it ended at Prophet Muhammad (SAW), You should lookup the hadiths clearly mentioning La Nabi a ba'adi. There is no prophet after Prophet Muhammad. The building of prophethood has been competed with our Prophet Muhammad (SAW) being the last piece in it. No space left for anyone else with Hazrat Isa already being there. I can give you arguments after arguments with clear meaning, no jumping around the bush, no hopping around and clutching at straws trying and failing to prove Mirza Qadiyyani. His name might have been Ghulam Ahmad (slave of Ahmad) yet he was the biggest traitor to Ahmad (SAW)
Nothing short of a shouting contest here. Ill conduct by Mansur and Adnan speaking for like 15 minutes straight then accusing Ahmed of talking too much. Ironic?
Mansoor hit the nerve of qadian itself
Baraka ALLAHU fikoum
Who gave qadiani the authority to call anyone in tht way? Christians or non Christians.
Let talk about the crime and murders commited by your people on ahmadis please dnt delete my comment again. adnan😉
I did not like the way brother Mansur leads and moderstes the debate. He seems to be too harsh. I prefere Adnan's way of debating. He is very friendly and intelligent in his manners.
He wasn't harsh at all, the ahmadi clearly lied about him and hasim, he responded perfectly.
that’s the bengali in him, anger issues.
@@LogicPakthey are together giving dawah for one purpose.
And U r saying bangli or non bangali?
Typical Pakistani racist view.
This is the reason why Pakistan is in this situation today. U guys r racist
I feel like brother Mansur was being way to charitable! I would have booted this baghaiytul zada long time ago! He was cutting brother's off left and right, and not responding to their questions!
He behaved like a child imo with his wailling. Very immature and emotional for someone who has slandered Ahmadis in the past alongside Hashim.
How can you believe in someone who died on a toilet?
Hash word ? Said by the false prophet 😂
Greatly disappointing from the panel in my honest view. Despite not being very taught in Islam, the mannerism here alone speaks volumes.
Letting the guest wait for two hours and instead of the simple etiquette of apologising, it went to a petty response of "taught you a lesson in patience". Absurd. I would perhaps expect this behaviour from my 6 year old niece, not a grown man who is meant to be an advocate of your religion.
Next, this was nothing short of a shouting contest. It was extremely hard to hear the opinions/statements of the counter party to actually absorb. I guess that is to be expected when you show up to a panel debate/discussion of the "opposition".
There was no pursuit of truth here and Adnan certainly had WAY more time to make his points than the opposition - objectively speaking.
Cant deny that AhmadR also spoke over Adnan however, but lowkey to be expected if his "founder is insulted", especially if his speaking time was WAY less plagued with way more interruptions. I just don't see how anyone can deny this.
Anyone that attended/partook in official debates (such as at unis or in a professional setting) knows this was not one. I just hope the readers are made aware of this prior to "jumping the gun".
Then again... its the internet loool.
Another kafir qaydiyani triggered 😂
Your false prophet is a haraam zada ghasti ki aulaad and gave the British bjs daily
I don’t understand why can’t Adnan Rashid have an online discussion with Razi Sb ( Ahamdi answers) as he lives in Canada and can refute every point.
It's because of Razi's behaviour. I am amazed how frequently he takes things out of contest to claim victory, which makes him look like a child. Recently he uploaded a video claiming victory when brother Adnan gave out a debate challenge about specific topics to the gentleman at speakers corner. I mean, seriously? No wonder brother Adnan wants to save his time and energy for someone more serious, mature and knowledgeable.
If he is in any way like this ahmadr guy, trying to wiggle out, trying to jump hoops and trying to change topics when the topic of debate is whether Mirza qadiyani used these terms, yet he is jumping and running around.
You guys are so funny. Even a child in Pakistan knows what haramzada means. It's not what your false prophet claims it means.
Last point. You guys get so much support from the govt of Kaffirs, Germany UK and rest of Europe, because you are their tool of weakening islam. What a runner this guy is just like you guys are runners.
Adnan's scared. Razi is a torn in their eyes! Abdul-Razack was called out by his own scholars, due to his blunders when engaging with Razi. None dares to respond to Razi.
tell razi to come to speakers corner.... Adnan gonna destroy that rat face to face
Why don't your Razi Sahab set up a debate with Basheer Ahmad?
Sahih Bukhari 2476:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allāh’s Apostle ﷺ said, “The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).
Mirza Ghalam Qadiani claimed to be an incarnation of Essa AS, and we have a clear cut hadith from Muhammad SAW that ESSA AS will return at the end of times and do these things. Did Mirza Ghulam did that or are you a hadith rejector now?
Why would you enter the Lions Den and expect to win!? LOL
Masha Allah
Bro Adnan keep it up
Fight with this
They are not well
They all are not in good state of mind
I love how he ran away when adnan burried him in his own claim 😂😂
Pls frgive my shortcomings Brother you keep going in circles and you also keep interrupting him too. And he waited over 2hours to speak to u. answer his questions brother mke it friendly and sincere for the viewers
absolutely.
Absolutely feel the same way! Despite the arguably "biased" comments, I cannot see how this mannerism made Islam as a whole appear as a loving religion, especially if the people here are meant to be a reflection of the religion - to some degree that is.
Subhanallah brothers were so patient with this guy he would not answer questions and was so rude .
May Allah (SWT) bless our brother Adnan.
Adnan seems wound up and prolongs these talks just to make more money from youtube..also had a sly dig at the Qiadiani every now and then, not cool.
Shouting contest, ill misconduct, poor mannerism, lack of professionalism, the list goes on....