What do you think of the topics that are being discussed at these Tolkien events? Does it represent Tolkien's vision or is it an attempt to subvert the books into something they were never meant to be? Let me know your thoughts below, and as always, thanks for watching :)
I live in the US and I hate what Amazon is doing too Tolken's world I was a late comer to the written works I only started reading them reading them after watching the 1st hobbit movie. But I have been an avid reader since then.
Sometimes things are set up with one idea, then as people join the group or get promoted the ideas change. Other times people will deliberately choose names that are the opposite of what they actually intend. In order to use that name as a defence, or to give a false impression to people who don't look into them. I've not looked into how it happened here, but it's very common. The national trust for stately homes in the UK has also fallen fowl of the same thing. Set up to protect British history, it now despises it.
Because it's the only way they can get the attention they feel they deserve and aren't original enough to come up with their own ideas to reach the same level of fame.
It's a couple of political ideas that have made their way into the mainstream. First of all to praise something or tolerate something is synonymous with supporting it. Secondly, the bad ideas of the past exert an influence on the present. Essentially forming a sort of intellectual baggage that holds us all back. The old revolutionary phrase "to make a better future, we must destroy the past." Covers this one nicely. So whatever it is that you don't like must be fought against and made unacceptable. This also brings to mind the phrase "the revolution devours it's children." Which means that as whatever group you're supporting gets more and more radical eventually you find yourself left behind and in the unacceptable category.
When I read the term 'deconstructing Tolkien'... i remember: "And he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom” JRR. Tolkien.
It’s a shame that his shyte bag grandchildren are destroying he and J.R.R’s legacy for a quick buck? They’re despicable human beings, and deserve everything coming their way.
@@clogs4956 unfortunately the good ones are the ones you rarely hear about.... because they spent their time doing their job and not tweeting incessantly as they desperately try to get their name attached to one project or another because their ego won't allow them to simply study the works of another person.
Make no mistake, these Cultural Marxists know EXACTLY what they’re doing! This was all planned, back before WW2, when Germanys Frankfurt School of Economics was in full swing. After the rise of Nazism, Hitler failed to eradicate these Commies, right before their journey to Columbia University, where they’ve plotted to destroy the West ever since. That major blunder may end up the cause of the destruction of Western Civilization as we know it one day?
I think its the opposite, in fact it's so overwhelmingly complicated and built around nothing substantial that they can't even defend their view. It's a lot like a lie, lies create more lies untill the "truth" is the illusion built on their lies.
It's disgusting that Amazon Studio's method of promotion is to "bribe" key people in control of talkien websites/channels. How many of these people also received "consultation work" job offers?
Lord of the Rings is not a franchise, it’s a series and it’s complete. It doesn’t need anything added, if you want more then read the Hobbit or Silmarillion. A good story is a like a mine, eventually there’s nothing left to dig and you got to go somewhere else. These tools at Amazon shouldn’t have spent 250million on a story that’s been told
It’s really not complete, but sadly the author is dead, and so is his stalwart and dedicated heir. You could expand every chapter in the Silmarillion into a book or two.
people need to write their own books. tolkien has passed away, so really anything new that is written is fan fiction. not that i am against fan fiction, but people should make their own stories.
@@jardinvernonnet3006 That is the problem with western entertainment. In Japan they make new stuff all the time some get big some are niche but new stuff are made all the time. In the west unless there is a build in audience that is going to get angry they will not dare to make anything new.
These fools aren't going to take Tolkien from me. I'm not going to watch even a minute of Amazon's abomination. You and Nerdrotic and Critical Drinker keep doing what you're doing, because it's a lot smarter than this show will be.
@@EdwinBoyetteStorytime many felt that way with Star Wars and Disney. I will not consider anything not written or closely based on Tolkien’s work part of the LOTR universe.
@@raskolnikov6443 i hear you man star wars hits deep for me and after watching ghost busters and all the other bs reboots carrying THE MESSAGE i just stopped and i mean completely stopped watching movies and tv shows comming out nowa days and just watch anime ......... do you know how hard it is to watch anime in Botswana ahhhhhhh
@@briantafila9480 Go watch Maverick, for though it’s not nerdy (I’m a nerd by the way), it’s also not woke bs. It’s a fun action blockbuster that leans to the right, but overall tries to be simply entertaining than political.
I remember in 99 on mission overseas, on my down time I read the trilogy, it is a great story, I loved it, I didn't find any hidden meaning, or any life changing views on life. I'm not an expert on literature, but I loved the stories, can modern "storytellers" not just get to the point and tell the story without shoehorning modern day bollixology into everything.
It has a few wisdom drops, but definitely no real agenda. Tolkien's desire to return to nature is pretty prevalent in it too, but that's not really the same as holistic ideological agenda being shoved down your throat.
Tolkien didn't even like allegory as he wanted his stories to stand on their own merits, without readers having to try and interpret any hidden meanings from his text. I wish more authors took that view, to be honest.
Something that made me realize how the core message of Tolkien is being polluted/misunderstood was when some people were surprised that I, a catholic Tolkien fan, hate Game of Thrones. They said it's basically the same thing. And I was like no, they are complete opposites. They didn't seem to understand why. Like hey, swords and dragons.
In terms of genre, sure, they're pretty similar in that Tolkien invented a genre and Martin wrote in that genre. But in ideology, they're complete opposites. While Lord of the Rings is a story about gritty optimism in the face of impossible challenges, A Song of Ice and Fire is fantasy nihilism. And one of the reasons why the show ended so poorly and the books might not end at all is because you can't extend a nihilistic world view into a satisfying ending. Either the nihilism is rejected or the ending is unfulfilling.
@@7slavok well it's not the nihilism that males this happen, with GOT it's because the writers tried to be clever and cram so many subplots and character twists they get themselves in a bind and cant get out of it. David Fincher is a perfect example of how to write nihilistic stories and still conclude them, 7 and fight club are 2 noticable movies/stories that do this well.
@@7slavok Its a good one. The Game of Thrones end was really that bad in every front because they refused to embrace either side. The show was about this nihilism while none of the ending become that. People would take on the total defeat on the long night and the would cheer to see a nobody wins ending. Instead they tried to turn it to a Lord of the Rings like finale where all the evils will fail and the goods are revarded. Its just so out of that show. Aria's stab has no effect on the Night King and she die unceremoniously while she put her best effort in it is something a Game of Thrones should have. Eowyn victory over the Witch King something Lord of the Rings should have. And the opposite would not fit in the story on either side.
Imagine The Night King won and Westeros fell because even in the end people like Cersei chose to fight over the throne instead of uniting with the others. Then tell a sequel story where it’s about easteros or something for a new cast and all that.
Tolkien's work don't need anything added or subtracted, it's fine as it is and its a complete masterpiece, Amazon is really bastardizing Tolkien's work here
This was my least favorite part of lit classes in college. We’d read books from the 1800s England and students and teacher would point out sections that are “racist” or “sexist” but if you think about the culture of that time, it was revolutionary thinking. They hated when I pointed out the curlture of the time period. They just wanted to rag on all of the classics and how bad they are. They didn’t care about the original intent or the author’s view of the society they lived in, they wanted to read it with today’s standards in mind. Heck, we had a meeting with admin who wanted to know how to improve our English department and one girl complained that we had to read Shakespeare because he’s an old white guy without anything good to say. I told them we needed to focus a little more on seeing the pieces as what they were when they were written and their significance when they first were created. I took lit classes because I was passionate about it. Other students took them because they thought they’d be easy.
Sadly, this isn't how English departments used to be. They got taken over in the late 60s-80s by the New Left, who tried to diminish the concept of a "Western canon" and literary history in favor of race, gender, and class. It's only now that they've finally seized control of narratives, criticism, and storytelling, in general. That product is woke-ism.
Well, MacDonalds always needs people. Have you watched Hamlet? It is insane but fascinating. "Nothing to say" indeed. I hope girly learns to like old white guys, with her brains she is going to be working on a lot of them. On her knees...
@@ohifonlyx33 no joke. That dead white guy is the inspiration behind toms and tons of modern literature. She just didn’t like putting effort into anything and I’m pretty sure she basically only read YA romance in her down time.
Reminds me of when I was at Uni many many moons ago. One of the books we were covering was Hemingway's The Old Man and the Sea. The claptrap the lecturer was spouting about it was driving me insane. In the end I had to open my gob and quote Hemingway himself on the subject "it's just a story about a man and a fucking big fish, don't let anyone tell you different". He'd said it in an interview when the interviewer began talking about the subtext blah blah blah. My lecturer wasn't impressed which was ok because the feeling was mutual. My time at uni was short lived. They invent this shit to justify and protect their jobs and tenured professorships.
It's the modern view towards art. Modern art usually doesn't have a clear definitive meaning. When asked what it is, they say that is up to you. Those professors try to apply this principle to art in the past which have only one valid interpretation, the artist's.
basically this. They just assumed they could pay off enough media shills to silence the criticism and it failed... and now clearly this is about ego. The fans, whom these networks execs just feel are inherently beneath them, are throwing a massive wrench into their plans.
I think it's hilarious they are accusing the fans of gatekeeping when they are the ones that bought it and control it. Like we have some type of mystical powers to force them to not ruin it.
The most tragic thing from this is that Tolkien’s work was loved on a lot of spectrums (still is) and brought a fandom spanning in the millions if not billions together for the love of his work, than you have these ppl trying to destroy his work by “fixing” it with current political mindset that has no place in this amazing setting, well try as they might we the real fans will remain strong and will not allow them to divide us with their bs. “This shadow even darkness must pass, and when the sun shines it’ll shine out the clearer” - Samwise Gamgee
@@philippalinton5850 Why can’t I quote from the movie? They got me into the books in the first place and Sams quote from Two Towers film helped me overcome a dark chapter in my life
That's fair enough. And I'm glad to hear that. 🙂 But a lot of people hating on RoP seem unaware of the many changes Peter Jackson made in his film adaptation of LotR. I love the films, but some things in them I will never accept.
@@cerscil unfortunately the films elevate Sam over Frodo. Frodo is wiser and stronger in the book. The films robbed him of his heroism - in the book, he stabbed the Witch King at Weathertop, defied the Nazgul on his own at Bruinen, stabbed a troll in Moria, proved himself to be Faramir's equal, and also never believed Gollum over Sam or sent Sam away. Millions who have never read the book judge Frodo by his film portrayal. A lost opportunity. I'm afraid it makes me cynical about Film Sam's iconic moments, because he was allowed to shine, and Frodo wasn't. I love Book Frodo and Book Sam far more than their film counterparts.
And again - a perfectly summarized and verbally masterfully crafted rant over these really twisted times conjured up by really twisted minds!! Thank you for this!!!✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
I never expected Tolkien's beloved myth to be desecrated and burned to the ground by these people. They claim to like Tolkien but their action and speech are the opposite. They have destroyed Star Wars which I used to like. Now they're out to destroy (or in their -speak correct or rectify) Tolkien. I can only weep and lament at the death of Tolkien's legacy.
They had to wait until his son died to have a chance to butcher this series just goes to show you these people had no intention of making this series good or respecting his work
Tolkien will not be destroyed because his canon is the books. And every adaptation, be it movie, game or series, is just a separate work. Star Wars Canon was modified, so it was destroyed.
1:45 The more I see of Amazon's "Rings of Power", the more it looks like the producers got confused and modeled the series after the wrong 2001 film, using "Dungeons and Dragons" for their template rather than "The Fellowship of the Ring"! For its budget, "Rings of Power" looks no better than a cheap SciFi Channel fantasy series from the early 2000s (not surprising, since "Wheel of Time" looked the same way). Heck, even those Hallmark-produced fantasy miniseries of the late '90s (such as "The Odyssey" and "Merlin") looked better, despite their mediocre-to-poor '90s CGI effects. After Peter Jackson set the bar for big-budget fantasy film in 2001 - _over twenty years ago_ - Hollywood has, for whatever reason, chosen to take us back to 1997. In that case, we all might as well just rewatch Armand Assante's Odysseus poking cyclopses in the eye instead!
As an American, I am appalled that Tolkien's works are being ripped apart like this. I have been a fan of Lord of the Rings since I was 10 and there is no way they are taking this from us!
What the heck is so morally wrong with Gimli & Legolas, and Frodo & Sam, developing bonds of mutual respect and camaraderie that they have to insert romantic relationships into it? For people that so often cry against 'toxic masculinity', this showing of mutual friendship and supporting is always made into something different.
it's an attack on male friendship. It's ironic with the toxic masculinity crowd that they have helped fueled this by reading gay subtext in every male friendship in media that real life male friends are reluctant to show affection to one another. It's also the fact that these "deep" thinkers are really superficial that they can't understand human relationships that don't have a materialistic goal such as physical sex. Tolkien was in WWI. He understood the bond men have who face death together something these modern "deep" thinkers don't.
I don't mind gay characters when they are written that in mind, but it really makes me mad that people are trying to ship EVERY character with each other who just happen to have deep friendship with another character. Is that how less they value real friendship?
“Those who cannot conceive Friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a Friend. The rest of us know that though we can have erotic love and friendship for the same person yet in some ways nothing is less like a Friendship than a love-affair. Lovers are always talking to one another about their love; Friends hardly ever about their Friendship. Lovers are normally face to face, absorbed in each other; Friends, side by side, absorbed in some common interest. Above all, Eros (while it lasts) is necessarily between two only. But two, far from being the necessary number for Friendship, is not even the best. And the reason for this is important. ... In each of my friends there is something that only some other friend can fully bring out. By myself I am not large enough to call the whole man into activity; I want other lights than my own to show all his facets... Hence true Friendship is the least jealous of loves. Two friends delight to be joined by a third, and three by a fourth, if only the newcomer is qualified to become a real friend. They can then say, as the blessed souls say in Dante, 'Here comes one who will augment our loves.' For in this love 'to divide is not to take away.” ~ The Four Loves
@@chuiga2935 They are stuck in a teenager girl mentality when this demographic make shipps out of everyone mainly in anime, even straight guys and girls. I was into this for awhile, but I grew up I guess.
"The potential of telling silence in the relatioship between Legolas and Gimli." "Oh, they didn't say anything about it. That's how you definitely know it happened." lol
Yeah cause nothing says two guys are gay for each other like discussions on which women are the most beautiful. I mean if you just ignore the words and inject a non-existent subtext you can say anything
when your 'academic work' follows the exact same logic as a 'shipper' on twitter.... i think it's safe to say you've jumped the shark as an academic...
They use the same fucking arguments that were used doing the witch trials and think it's new for fucks sake. I've also seen them use all the awful arguments once used against women like "she deserved it" and "she doth protest too much". These people are truly retarded and it makes my blood boil.
Same with Doctor Who. No-one wanted to see a female Doctor because they thought it would be a better character, they wanted to see it because it was a blow against the 'patriarchy'. Then when a woman gets the job the activists move on to the next thing to tear down, the fans and the show suffer.
I'm a lifelong Tolkien fan. If any movie or video adaptation of Tolkien strays too far from the source material (In my subjective opinion) I turn it off. I then I walk over to my bookcase, pull out the source material and sit down to read (usually with a cup of coffee/tea). I can't and won't define what constitutes straying too far...I vote with the remote.
Weapons, architecture, clothing, language, food, military formations, societal structure, landscape, even Lenny Henry's character's accent - all based on and grounded in those of ancient Western Europe - everything but the people in this show.
A big round of applause for the Post Modernists who make nothing because they are too busy deconstructing everything, to suit their own misaligned beliefs.
"Its not about what Tolkien said, it's about what we can make people believe what he meant." You couldn't have said it any better, and that makes me sad
The Tar-Miriel art is one of the most beautiful I have ever seen. Also, by her time Numenor had become a nation of conquerors. ZERO chance there would be Haradrim blood in it.
"Το κακό δεν μπορεί να δημιουργήσει τίποτα καινούργιο, μπορεί μόνο να διαφθείρει και να καταστρέψει αυτά που οι καλές δυνάμεις έχουν εφεύρει ή κατασκευάσει." -J.R.R. Tolkien
After trying to suffer through the first episode of the Wheel of Time in my second attempt to watch the garbage through... I don't know how much more "love, care, and affection" I can take from Amazon, to be honest. It blows my mind that anyone would watch the Wheel of Time - a story based on a voluminous, episodic tale, written by a relatively modern author, with plenty of female "representation", perfect for television - be adapted with a child's level of writing and character design - never mind with a large amount of current-day political misandry thrown in for good measure, and then think: "You know what? We should let these same people adapt the appendices of the Lord of the Rings!" You know, all of those great short stories Tolkien wrote about the hubris of man and horror that befalls those who deconstruct and deconstruct until they find themselves far from the path of wisdom - under the thumb of Morgoth. "Nah, It'll be fine!"
"And last of all the mounting wave, green and cold and plumed with foam, climbing over the land, took to its bosom Tar-Míriel the Queen, fairer than silver or ivory or pearls. Too late she strove to ascend the steep ways of the Meneltarma to the holy place; for the waters overtook her, and her cry was lost in the roaring of the wind." The Silmarillion, Akallabêth Fairer than silver, ivory and pearls eh? :) Tar-Miriel, one of the Dunedain, the Numenoreans, you know these guys? "They took off their masks now and again to cool them, as the day-heat grew, and Frodo saw that they were goodly men, pale-skinned, dark of hair, with grey eyes and faces sad and proud. They spoke together in soft voices, at first using the Common Speech... and then changing to another language of their own. To his amazement, as he listened Frodo became aware that it was the Elven-tongue that they spoke... and he looked at them with wonder, for he knew then that they must be Dúnedain of the South, men of the line of the Lords of Westernesse" ... "They became thus in appearance, and even in powers of mind, hardly distinguishable from the Elves - but they remained mortal, even though rewarded by a triple, or more than a triple, span of years." ... "Riding one day in the forests of the Westlands he saw a woman, whose dark hair flowed in the wind, and about her was a green cloak clasped at the throat with a bright jewel; and he took her for one of the Eldar, who came at times to those parts of the Island. But she approached, and he knew her for Erendis, and saw that the jewel was the one that he had given her; then suddenly he knew in himself the love that he bore her, and he felt the emptiness of his days. Erendis seeing him turned pale and would ride off, but he was too quick, and he said: "Too well have I deserved that you should flee from me, who have fled so often and so far! But forgive me, and stay now." You know the Numenoreans, ethnically descendants of the Edain of Beleriand, the three ethnic groups Hadorians/Marachians: Yellow-haired they were for the most part, and blue-eyed; but not so was Túrin, whose mother was Morwen of the house of Bëor.1 The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Ch 17, Of the Coming of Men into the West Beorians: "The Men of [the House of Bëor] were dark or brown of hair, with grey eyes...." The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Ch 17, Of the Coming of Men into the West ... "The Folk of Hador were ever the greatest in numbers of the Atani, and in renown (save only Beren son of Barahir descendant of Bëor). For the most part they were tall people, with flaxen or golden hair and blue-grey eyes, but there were not a few among them that had dark hair, though all were fair-skinned." HoME12 The Peoples of Middle-earth ... "The Númenóreans were not of uniform racial descent. Their main division was between the descendants of the “House of Hador” and the “House of Bëor”. These two groups originally had distinct languages; and in general showed different physical characteristics. Each House had, moreover, numerous followers of mixed origin. The people of Bëor were on the whole dark-haired (though fair-skinned), less tall and of less stalwart build; they were also less long-lived. Their Númenórean descendants tended to have a smaller life-span: about 350 years or less. The people of Hador were strong, tall, and for the most part fair-haired. But the chieftains of both Houses had already in Beleriand intermarried. The Line of Elros was regarded as belonging to the House of Hador through Eärendil (son of Tuor, the great-great-grandson of Hador); but it was also descended on the distaff side from the House of Bëor through Elwing wife of Eärendil, daughter of Dior, son of Beren (last chieftain of the House of Bëor, and seventh in direct descent from Bëor)." The Nature of Middle-earth Why the heck they did not use the Haradrim as the go to people for having this diversity checkbox?! Haradrim were dark skinned!
I have never been the biggest Tolkien fan, but even I know that Tolkien despised any form of allegory. He just wanted to tell a story without allegories or hidden messages behind it. Another case where the people who make themselves the advocates of somebody's legacy have no idea about the man and his views. What I also do not understand: why just take established characters and gender/race swap them? It's such a lazy, hamfisted and in many ways disrespectful approach; just imagine a Zulu chieftain being played by a white man! Why not create your own niche and try to fit other ethnicites into the story in an organic way? I would love to see a show about the Easterlings and their internal struggles, their relationship with Sauron, or the reasons why they turned against the other people. And honestly, it would ruin the immersion for me if some of the Easterlings were played by white actors. There is enough diversity in the LOTR, it doesn't have to be inserted or "invented" by unimaginative amateurs.
Diversity can also exist in seemingly homogenous groups, lack of melanin doesn't equal lack of diversity. That's something people always forget. It's one of the things that irk me when they shove random black people in stuff where you could see there's a history and culture for everyone else except the black or other "non-white" insert. It nagged me for a long time why it was so off-putting. If it was a real close knit culture that existed in unity for ages, why are distinct racial/ethnic features present? That only occurs if there are distinct cultural differences at play that prevent complete mixing, but you're also shown none of those exist. It makes no sense, that's not how reality works and everyone intuitively knows this. There's a reason you could tell a Korean person and Japanese person apart, or a Norwegian from a Brit, even who comes from the north, south, east or west in the same country. So when they say it's normal for Lenny Henry to appear in a group so dissimilar from him with no distinctions amongst them despite his existence proving otherwise it's jarring like a while Zulu chieftain. They're pushing modern ethnic populations that exist for specific reasons in worlds where none of those exist. You can't make a historical Chinese drama with random Native Americans mixed in with no explaination how this co-existence happened while pushing them as one cohesive tribe that don't intermarry to preserve their own unique traits. That math doesn't add up. The ethnic make up for most populations gradually bleed in and out to closer you get to one or the farther you go too (barring stuff like slavery or mass immigration possible by modern trasportation). I'm tired of my skin tone being used as justification for ridiculousness.
Tolkien created a masterpiece from the ground up. Making an entire universe before even people knew it was Middle-Earth. Before Arda in the Timeless Hall of Eru Ilúvatar, and his Ainur creating the realm of Arda throught music with harmony cords (with Melkor disruptive cord , even when the Ainur took physical form to live on Arda to shape the world. This was a time before the elves were around. See history before time began. Tolkien wrote about everything and anything in His universe. This is what people love about him, his work, and his stories. Middle-Earth is loved by people from all walks of life. And Tolkien legacy doesn't need to be edited by people who doesn't give a crap about his work, his life's work. If you start to edit or change anything his wrote about, it's wrong on so many levels. No wonder Amazon is having all this backlash. Peter Jackson's movies told Tolkien's story and stay true to what Tolkien wrote about. "We had no interest in putting in our junk, our baggage into these movies." - Peter Jackson.
I agree with almost everything about this comment. The only thing I disagree with is you assertion that Peter Jackson's movies stay true to what Tolkien wrote about. If you had specified Jackson's Lord of the Rings Trilogy, then I would have agreed with you. Jackson's Hobbit Trilogy however, contained multiple inaccuracies and plenty of unnecessary additions to The Hobbit.
I took a year of "English" at uni. It's all assignments like this - take random work and project political narratives into it that were never there. I left after a year. These people clearly graduated with honours.
Very good analysis but you forgot to mention a critical part of the MO. After the series stuggles to get any views they will blame the fans for 'not even giving it a chance' or 'finally showing how biggoted they truly are'. It's the same playbook they already used a hundred times.
Which is why if called a bigot I just ya "ya, and?" Cause it makes there brain hurt and I already know they won't listen to me saying I'm not so funnier to agree and watch there faces.
I was watching The Terminal List (awesome show btw) and there was a Rings of Power trailer. I've been following the show's development and am so disappointed. I said "no" with such pain and despair, my family thought I was hurt. No, just seeing the death of a beloved world.
I'm shocked amazon can put out something like that, and then completely bastardize LOTR, I kept seeing the teaser pop up immediately skipping it I don't want THEIR version of it.
It's a subversion of the books into something they were never meant to be -- plain and simple... and yes, I've read all the books too. Now having read the books doesn't make me an expert, however it also does not make blind to the fact that this new series is (or will be) a subversion. Fans love what is true to what they love and when it deviates, there is obvious backlash (as we've seen, good or bad), in order to protect what they hold dear. Please don't blame the passionate for calling out bs for what it is. It's the fans that keep lore alive.
In the words of Gomez Adams Gomez Adams : " Has the planet gone mad? My brother... passion's hostage. I seek justice! Denied. I shall not submit! I shall conquer! I shall rise! My name is Gomez Addams, and I have seen evil! I have seen horror! I have seen the unholy maggots which feast in the dark recesses of the human soul! I have seen all this officer. But until today, I have never seen... YOU "
None of the elves in this soulless garbage look like elves. They look like people "dressed up" as elves. In the movie trilogy, they looked ethereal and different. Hell, they even "The Hobbit" films got the look right. This show is so fucking soulless.
Usually when I see comments about how producers, writers, etc love the source material, it usually means "they love it so much they want to 'improve' it."
To be fair I don't think he cares one bit. These ultra woke shows are not meant to make money, they are made to score ESG ranking points and they are perfectly ok with destroying a few franchises in the process, just look at Disney.
Fantastic job, here! This "rant" has been mine as well for the last 24hrs since I learned about the way they are taking-over Tolkien's wonderful creation... Good job, Man!
By that logic, Elves, Dwarves and Hobbits are also Haradrim, but then again, you wouldn't expect much logic from Amazon's perversion in the first place. So it checked out. The whole thing is a bad Fan-fiction, an insult to Tolkien fans.
Valars bless you, old chap. Tolkien is one of (numbered) good things which came from Britain last century, so as a fan of Professor's work from a different culture I wholly support your voice against those woke-obsessed "deconstructors", "improvers" and "modernizers" who try to corrupt and twist it to the point of non-recognition. We (non-English) should strive to learn more about Tolkien's homeland, culture and world view through his work, not force ours on his. P.S. But now you understand well how it feels to be colonized, right? ;) When a bunch of arrogant, selfish and greedy assh***s come from across the sea, claim and take things that you value or hold spiritually dear as their own, and try to denigrate and trample you if you resist. P.P.S. But I'm a bit surprised that such an "activist-teacher" as that Reid woman can thrive in Texas. I reckoned those hardened and God-fearing texans don't like to put up with all the wokist sh*t creeping out of California (and NY, and other nests of those intellectual parasites).
We have always known what it's like to be colonised in 1066 England was invaded by the Norman's from France. Who destroyed England's Anglo Saxon culture and mythology. It was this that inspired Tolkien to write his stories which was inspired by Anglo Saxon myths. His intention was to recreate the mythology of England. But now it seems for that once again our mythology is to be destroyed.
Christians colonised Europe before obliterating most of our indigenous cultures. It's odd how people seemingly forget that Europeans were the first to be colonised by a foreign religion on a widescale. Now we are facing it a second time by another cult called wokism.
We keep the wackos locked in Austin. Not many calis last in even Austin amusingly enough. They throw a tantrum and go back home when there normal shit doesn't work and they don't realize all the towns around Austin watch them like hawks. Secondary location is Dallas if they are only a bit crazy and we call Dallas the foreigners city. In Texas, non Texans are foreigner's. We remember we started as our own country and never lost that thinking so even if your from Oklahoma or Arkansas (let alone New York or Cali) your a Foreigner and no different to us then a foreigner from south America or Europe. (You may think I'm kidding but I'm actually dead serious)
"REPRESENTATION!" This doesn't represent Tolkien. "YOU'RE FIRED!" Ok. "YAY THE MESSAGE!" *negative reviews* "EVERYONE IS RACIST AND PHOBIC!" *low viewership* "EV...dammit, where's our money?"
I would love to deconstruct these people in the style of a Hellraiser cenobite...because everything I loved and got me through rough times has been destroyed by remedials playing at being experts. I hate these people
...... Thank you for that image. I'm so using that every time they anger me because that truly is the best punishment for these assholes I've ever heard. Truly. Thank you.
Amazing explanation about the why and how of "deconstruction" in this context! That word gets thrown around a lot and people should hear what it entails when practiced.
James Lindsay describes critical theory as being like an industrial solvent that reduces all concepts to meaninglessness. If they can't rebuild the pieces they will just happily leave everything ruined and move onto the next target until they've achieved their cultural revolution.
If the tolkien society lecture hall were to mysteriously burn to the ground, tragically with everyone of its members inside...well that, that would just be a shame....
I would have zero issue with Amazon creating their own story and world, actually, I'd applaud them because there isn't much originality going on right now. The fact that they're doing this to Tolkien, and attacking the fans, is what I have a problem with. You cannot get someone to like you by screaming at them, it's as simple as that.
@@xhagast I haven't, so I'll take your word for it. I think they could have done something amazing with a book that wasn't as developed as LOTR. Shame, such a waste.
There is a fundamental cognitive flaw to the mindset "Everyone should have my point of view." It's not just the self-centred arrogance or utter lack of regard and empathy for one's fellow human beings - consider what it means for everyone to think "Everyone should have my point of view". It's a fundamentally impossible aspiration. So what such people dishonestly do is to bend the wishes of others to their own will, in the process denying them their agency and 'relieving' them of their humanity. This is one way in which you become a monster.
Brilliant analysis, and thank you. As an European I'm very tired of Americans trying to shove their ideology and social problems down our throats, and expect us to drop everything we are doing to tend to their wailing when something goes wrong in their country (wich most of the time it's their own fault). I still remember the times when we all feared the Tolkien sodiety because they could come after you for using a pseudonim online that happened to be copyrighted. Now they do this.
I really enjoy your content, I feel you resonate my thoughts and feelings, but put them In an articulate and entertaining way, of which I could never emulate. But as for Tolkiens work..it has been a part of who I am, I remember been read the hobbit in school in the early 80s the been gifted the LOTRs by my Dad. Tolkien to me, was cherished memories, memories that are been overshadowed by this shite.
I remember when the first cartoon adaptations by Warner Bros. of the Hobbit & LOTR first came out. They were flawed, pale imitations of Tolkien's works, like silent film projections by candlelight through a dirty glass plane against a cave wall. Despite that, I still enjoyed the Bakshi portion recognizing it as a product of its time. Peter Jackson's LOTR was a massive improvement, a beautiful distillation with a better signal-to-noise ratio, akin to High Fidelity (although the Hobbit was bloated). What the ROP suggests is more like a constant echo at high decibels of white noise: no soul, no respect, no intellect, and a lot of verbal poop flung by the chimps in their echo chambers.
If you ever come across a leftist, who is making the argument that Tolkien's work needs updating to fit with the taste's of the "modern audience", just ask them when, over the last 400+ years, Shakespeare, Homer, or Dickens, was rewritten to suit the audience of the time! And when they can't, explain to them the reason great works of history have been passed down through the generations unscathed, is because they are timeless! I doubt they'd get it, after all, they are the book burners of our time! Joining a long list, alongside history's most notorious degenerates, such as the Na*i's, the Spanish Inquisition, the Young Turks, and numerous communist regimes!
The thing is, most of these old classics have received that treatment in one form or another, again and again as the times change. Why haven't you head of all these then? Because it's done by independent groups, small-scale theaters etc. and presented to small audiences who are into that kind of thing. And no one is complaining, because it's done honestly and not in an effort to devalue and replace the original works.
That's too intelligent for the. Instead when they argue it needs to be changed just yell in there face "your a colonizing bigot!!!!!!" And give them a taste of there own medicine. Trust me. It's fucking hilarious 😂
This whole mess boils down to the fact that copyright protection is absurdly long. If copyright only lasted for the life of the author, all of Tolkien's works would be in the public domain. That would mean Amazon could make its terrible adaption, while a competing producer could make a more faithful adaption, and the public could decide which was more deserving of viewing. But because copyright protection is so ridiculously long, it means Amazon has exclusive rights, and thus everyone is stuck with only their crappy adaption, with no competition. Copyright protection lengths need to be rolled back enormously.
i'm really not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.... if Tolkein was public domain, the real fans would still be shitting all over this kind of repurposing of Tolkein's work...
@@johnneville403 So I looked it up, and it turns out the LotR and The Hobbit books will be copyrighted until September 3, 2043. However, the books Christopher Tolkien edited makes his intervention on the literature is accounted as copyrighted.. that translates that the books he edited will be copyrighted until 17 January, 2090.
I think the show would have been fine, if they had not tried to make it a Lord of the Rings prequel series. As generic fantasy, it is perfectly acceptable... But as it stand now, they are creating little more than fan-fiction. The insinuation that Tolkien intended for Legolas and Gimli to be queer is just so bizarre.
I can’t wait to see you break down each episode of this rancid show. I saw all your halo and kenobi breakdowns and needless to say this show is gonna get exactly what it deserves
I have loved Lord of the Rings ever since my father took me to see the Fellowship of the Ring in theaters when I was just a wee little lad. Tolkien has greatly impacted me and inspired me throughout my life. I have an extremely intricate and high fidelity tattoo of Sauron's helm (based on the model used in the films) on my forearm done by one of the finest artists in my city. I also have the The Witch-King of Angmar's helm tattooed further up across my left bicep/ tricep. They are aesthetically brilliant but it's what they represent metaphorically as symbols for the corruption of man that is the reason I chose to permanently embed them onto my body. I have received many compliments and initiated many great conversations, friendships and even relationships because of them. I have always been proud of having those tattoos and never felt any regret or shame over them whatsoever. After seeing Disparu's and many other youtubers coverage of the upcoming Rings of Power, however, it is with equal parts sadness and horror at this nightmare inducing zombified fan fiction resurrected corpse of a production, that I must announce the removal of my tattoos. I'm scheduled for my elective arm amputation in two weeks time. Sure, I could have had them removed via laser but that would not be nearly sufficient enough of a gesture to convey how deeply dishonorable it would be to have the audacity to still be wearing these tattoos *after* this..."Lord of the Rings iNsPiReD" series has aired. It was either that, or commit ritual Seppuku (Hara-Kari), but I don't have an assistant on hand willing to decapitate me after I've plunged the tantō blade into my belly and severed my abdominal aorta. Such is life. At least by going ahead with the elective amputation procedure I won't have to live with the everlasting shame and dishonor of displaying those beautiful, ethereal tattoos representing a bygone era of literature and cinema that was then bastardized by the soulless Amazonian overlords. I'd rather be a one armed man with dignity than a two armed dishonorable sellout, endlessly cucked by a trillion dollar corporation. "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King."
That bit about the Norse faith was so on point. Christian missionaries would often infiltrate another faith and appropriate their Gods as Christ in various forms. At least the Muslims are more straightforward. They would simply unlife you if you worship another Gods.
The Catholics did a fair bit of that as well, to be fair. Charlemagne didn’t build his empire through infiltration and the Moors weren’t persuaded to leave Iberia.
What are you talking about? Your understanding of history needs work. Christians are henotheists. They know all gods exist in the world. Henotheism simply recognizes the logical conclusion to hierarchy isn't a series of different pantheons but a single pantheon starting and ending with the origin to the gods themselves. That's the Trinity. Christ is the only way to commune with the Trinity. to put it more simply, you want to be greater than Zeus/Jupiter, Shiva, Odin? Because you can become their judge by following Christ.
To be fair. Mohammed literally did the same thing. Allah was the middle eastern pagan creator god. The stone they go to kiss? Pagan. The kabba they circle? Pagan Many of the practices in the Quran? Jewish and Christian and pagan. Muslims just destroy but there oh holy Momo absolutely took a page from the Christians in creating and running his cult.
It's like when they deconstruct a cheese cake on Masterchef. And the overriding feeling I get when they present their plate is....that's not a cheese cake.
The best part is when Amazon Prime loses money on this travesty. I am cancelling my subscription as soon as I watch the last episode of The Boys and I'm sure there are many more that will do the same.
The fact that they broke their undertaking to NZ to make the show there after filming the first season losing various financial incentives in the process, moved production to the UK to sound stages at Shepparton studios that haven't been built yet (Netlix booked existing ones), haven't started filming S2 & can't till they have those sound stages, makes me think they're running scared. I think they're waiting for the reaction to S1 before they start S2. Otherwise why go to those lengths? The usual rabid attacks are not coming as thick & fast as with other works either. Rather they're doing their best to 'persuade'. Interesting.
'He who breaks a thing to see how it is made has left the path of wisdom'. Any time people 'deconstruct' something it means they have missed the point of it.
"The fan reaction to meeting the showrunners are more encouraging than seeing footage." What the hell? These people must be a scammers dream come true - as long as you promise good things they are willing to part with money and time over 3 years? Maybe that works for those couch potatoes who watch anything and everything put in front of them but I only watch things that have won me over.
Rings of Power is Not the same universe as Tolkien’s books. Despite using familiar names & places, It's a totally different place. It has totally different rules from the ones established in the books. It is not recognizable as a LOTR adaptation or prequel. Bezos ROP adaptation isn't based on Tolkien's works or his world. Amazon looked at the Lord of the Rings appendices for their source material, claiming now it’s an inspiration but they appear to be about as related to Tolkien as D&D or World of Warcraft. From the Showrunners to the Super Fans, to the paid reviewers, paid fan sites, and clearly Amazon PR talking points which are seemingly based more in 2022 viewpoints and worldview than the one from Tolkien’s time and the detailed world he created, and his son complimented with completing some of his dad’s works or compiling and commenting on them.
Amazon doing something with some care and affection? Ahuh say that to the wheel of time adaptation. Attention to detail is also laughable. If they cared for detail they would have got simple things right like character descriptions and there's the small matter that this is legit fan fiction. The only rights they hold to the second age is the god dam appendixes in the trilogy. I can't trust Amazon when they've shown they suck at making fantasy. Fantasy requires a lot more thought put into it. It's why TV shows avoided it for years even preferring something like sci fi over fantasy as it's such a hard thing to do right. Does amazon not know why Japan is kicking America's ass in media like animation and comic books/Manga. Might it be because they treat the source material with some god dam respect? For gods sake the AOT anime has 2 of the top 3 spots listed for the best eps in TV history. Now not every Manga to anime adaption is good but even most of them treat the source material with respect. Amazon doesn't respect the material even though Tolkien has done all the hard work for them. Where's your original fantasy show Amazon HUH? Willing to buy someone's hard work and run amok with it but not so willing to make your own fantasy world yourself? Also for the one prick on twitter who doesn't understand why people love the Jackson films it's quite simply because it's one of the best film trilogy's of all time. Now is 100% perfect to the books. No. But he fit in every possible thing we could. Also if we do compare the new stuff to the old stuff well the films have a very small budget compared to what Amazon can throw at this thing. If the original was a TV show with Amazon budget than hell yeah I imagine it would be a dam near perfect adaptation. The films also had a time limit and a budget limit to come to. We can't do 6 or 8 hours films as people have things to do in life. But 6 or 8 one hour long episodes is easier to manage. Yes he changed some things for story telling reasons. It is also impossible to convert everything from book to film. Some things are not going to transfer over well or easily. Like character thoughts. In a book that's simple to do but in a film that's a very difficult thing to make work. For gods sake most of the actors in the films wear real armour that was forged on set along with real swords etc. I can tell a lot of the Amazon stuff is going to be CGI. A clear example of this is the way Galadriel moved up that ice cliff in the ROP trailer looked so god dam fake and unnatural it's embarrassing a 20+ year old film puts it to shame.
@@mattrasp1615 The Wheel of Time is one of the worst. I don't understand what point you think you're making. These are different shows done by different people. Amazon is just the backer. The only reason they are doing Rings of Power is because Bezos demanded a GoT type show so that's what's this will be. We already know they've broken canon because Celeborn is dead in it, yet he's alive and well in LotR book and movie. Elves can't resurrect so it's already in breach of contract with the Tolkien estate because not messing with canon was one of the stipulations in the contract. Then there's the very real issue with The Boys being written, green lit, and in production before the current trend in entertainment really got a big foothold.
All I keep seeing in my head is Amazon constantly saying "Fuck you" everytime they release anything to the fan base. Also, these activists better keep their greedy little mitts off LOTRO.
What do you think of the topics that are being discussed at these Tolkien events? Does it represent Tolkien's vision or is it an attempt to subvert the books into something they were never meant to be? Let me know your thoughts below, and as always, thanks for watching :)
Which “book” do you think is being subverted?
I live in the US and I hate what Amazon is doing too Tolken's world I was a late comer to the written works I only started reading them reading them after watching the 1st hobbit movie. But I have been an avid reader since then.
The works of Tolkien. Notice the difference. A holistic viewpoint against an attempt to deconstruct it.
They can never change the original story. All we can do is not watch
Ditto Jared Markham, rest easy in the fact that it's not JRR Tolkiens work, it's like buying a Ford escort and putting a Ferrari emblem on the hood
Why do they call themselves "The Tolkien Society" if they just want to change everything that Tolkien wrote?
Sometimes things are set up with one idea, then as people join the group or get promoted the ideas change. Other times people will deliberately choose names that are the opposite of what they actually intend. In order to use that name as a defence, or to give a false impression to people who don't look into them. I've not looked into how it happened here, but it's very common.
The national trust for stately homes in the UK has also fallen fowl of the same thing. Set up to protect British history, it now despises it.
Because it's the only way they can get the attention they feel they deserve and aren't original enough to come up with their own ideas to reach the same level of fame.
They should call themselves token society.
For the same reason they call themselves as the goodies.
It's a couple of political ideas that have made their way into the mainstream.
First of all to praise something or tolerate something is synonymous with supporting it.
Secondly, the bad ideas of the past exert an influence on the present. Essentially forming a sort of intellectual baggage that holds us all back. The old revolutionary phrase "to make a better future, we must destroy the past." Covers this one nicely.
So whatever it is that you don't like must be fought against and made unacceptable.
This also brings to mind the phrase "the revolution devours it's children." Which means that as whatever group you're supporting gets more and more radical eventually you find yourself left behind and in the unacceptable category.
When I read the term 'deconstructing Tolkien'... i remember: "And he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom” JRR. Tolkien.
Very apt.
Gold!
well saied.
Do not speak to me as if I were one the fools you take For friends!!!!
Breaking the white to find many colors...
There was only ever one real Tolkien scholar, his name was Christopher and his loss is why this nonsense is happening.
And Peter Jackson
It’s a shame that his shyte bag grandchildren are destroying he and J.R.R’s legacy for a quick buck? They’re despicable human beings, and deserve everything coming their way.
And Tom Shippey, the ACTUAL Tolkein expert that they fired from the show.
There are quite a few unrecognised Tolkien scholars out there and an awful lot of people who could rise to a good baiting and bite back.
@@clogs4956 unfortunately the good ones are the ones you rarely hear about.... because they spent their time doing their job and not tweeting incessantly as they desperately try to get their name attached to one project or another because their ego won't allow them to simply study the works of another person.
It's mind blowing that they still call themselves the Tolkien society, while they hate the guts of Tolkien.
They are destroying it from the inside, wolf in sheep clothing.
@@egnarnia Like they do to the country as well.
It is disheartening to observe how those of feeble intellect must degrade that which doesn't conform to their simplistic world view.
Make no mistake, these Cultural Marxists know EXACTLY what they’re doing! This was all planned, back before WW2, when Germanys Frankfurt School of Economics was in full swing.
After the rise of Nazism, Hitler failed to eradicate these Commies, right before their journey to Columbia University, where they’ve plotted to destroy the West ever since.
That major blunder may end up the cause of the destruction of Western Civilization as we know it one day?
*sick and twisted
Academia in a nutshell.
I think its the opposite, in fact it's so overwhelmingly complicated and built around nothing substantial that they can't even defend their view. It's a lot like a lie, lies create more lies untill the "truth" is the illusion built on their lies.
It's disgusting that Amazon Studio's method of promotion is to "bribe" key people in control of talkien websites/channels. How many of these people also received "consultation work" job offers?
Lord of the Rings is not a franchise, it’s a series and it’s complete. It doesn’t need anything added, if you want more then read the Hobbit or Silmarillion. A good story is a like a mine, eventually there’s nothing left to dig and you got to go somewhere else. These tools at Amazon shouldn’t have spent 250million on a story that’s been told
It’s really not complete, but sadly the author is dead, and so is his stalwart and dedicated heir. You could expand every chapter in the Silmarillion into a book or two.
"Amazon delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness..."
people need to write their own books. tolkien has passed away, so really anything new that is written is fan fiction. not that i am against fan fiction, but people should make their own stories.
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That is the problem with western entertainment. In Japan they make new stuff all the time some get big some are niche but new stuff are made all the time. In the west unless there is a build in audience that is going to get angry they will not dare to make anything new.
They really could have though, they could have stuck to the stories and, in their words, hit a home run. Yet, they decided to get struck out
These fools aren't going to take Tolkien from me. I'm not going to watch even a minute of Amazon's abomination. You and Nerdrotic and Critical Drinker keep doing what you're doing, because it's a lot smarter than this show will be.
How would they take Tolkien from you?
@@EdwinBoyetteStorytime many felt that way with Star Wars and Disney. I will not consider anything not written or closely based on Tolkien’s work part of the LOTR universe.
@@raskolnikov6443 i hear you man star wars hits deep for me and after watching ghost busters and all the other bs reboots carrying THE MESSAGE i just stopped and i mean completely stopped watching movies and tv shows comming out nowa days and just watch anime ......... do you know how hard it is to watch anime in Botswana ahhhhhhh
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Go watch Maverick, for though it’s not nerdy (I’m a nerd by the way), it’s also not woke bs. It’s a fun action blockbuster that leans to the right, but overall tries to be simply entertaining than political.
I remember in 99 on mission overseas, on my down time I read the trilogy, it is a great story, I loved it, I didn't find any hidden meaning, or any life changing views on life. I'm not an expert on literature, but I loved the stories, can modern "storytellers" not just get to the point and tell the story without shoehorning modern day bollixology into everything.
It has a few wisdom drops, but definitely no real agenda. Tolkien's desire to return to nature is pretty prevalent in it too, but that's not really the same as holistic ideological agenda being shoved down your throat.
Tolkien didn't even like allegory as he wanted his stories to stand on their own merits, without readers having to try and interpret any hidden meanings from his text. I wish more authors took that view, to be honest.
@@Unwise- Well said.
@@Unwise- The entire point of allegory is that it is done intentionally.
@@TechnoMinarchist it’s symbolic
Something that made me realize how the core message of Tolkien is being polluted/misunderstood was when some people were surprised that I, a catholic Tolkien fan, hate Game of Thrones. They said it's basically the same thing. And I was like no, they are complete opposites. They didn't seem to understand why. Like hey, swords and dragons.
In terms of genre, sure, they're pretty similar in that Tolkien invented a genre and Martin wrote in that genre. But in ideology, they're complete opposites. While Lord of the Rings is a story about gritty optimism in the face of impossible challenges, A Song of Ice and Fire is fantasy nihilism. And one of the reasons why the show ended so poorly and the books might not end at all is because you can't extend a nihilistic world view into a satisfying ending. Either the nihilism is rejected or the ending is unfulfilling.
@@7slavok well it's not the nihilism that males this happen, with GOT it's because the writers tried to be clever and cram so many subplots and character twists they get themselves in a bind and cant get out of it.
David Fincher is a perfect example of how to write nihilistic stories and still conclude them, 7 and fight club are 2 noticable movies/stories that do this well.
@@7slavok Its a good one. The Game of Thrones end was really that bad in every front because they refused to embrace either side. The show was about this nihilism while none of the ending become that. People would take on the total defeat on the long night and the would cheer to see a nobody wins ending. Instead they tried to turn it to a Lord of the Rings like finale where all the evils will fail and the goods are revarded. Its just so out of that show.
Aria's stab has no effect on the Night King and she die unceremoniously while she put her best effort in it is something a Game of Thrones should have. Eowyn victory over the Witch King something Lord of the Rings should have. And the opposite would not fit in the story on either side.
Imagine The Night King won and Westeros fell because even in the end people like Cersei chose to fight over the throne instead of uniting with the others. Then tell a sequel story where it’s about easteros or something for a new cast and all that.
I'm in the same boat, Mamá Teóloga, and I agree with you 100 %.
Tolkien's work don't need anything added or subtracted, it's fine as it is and its a complete masterpiece, Amazon is really bastardizing Tolkien's work here
More like vandalising. Like his work or not it is a mile stone for the genre and it should be kept as is.
Nothing European can be left alone. All of Europe must be destroyed.
This was my least favorite part of lit classes in college. We’d read books from the 1800s England and students and teacher would point out sections that are “racist” or “sexist” but if you think about the culture of that time, it was revolutionary thinking. They hated when I pointed out the curlture of the time period. They just wanted to rag on all of the classics and how bad they are. They didn’t care about the original intent or the author’s view of the society they lived in, they wanted to read it with today’s standards in mind. Heck, we had a meeting with admin who wanted to know how to improve our English department and one girl complained that we had to read Shakespeare because he’s an old white guy without anything good to say. I told them we needed to focus a little more on seeing the pieces as what they were when they were written and their significance when they first were created. I took lit classes because I was passionate about it. Other students took them because they thought they’d be easy.
Sadly, this isn't how English departments used to be. They got taken over in the late 60s-80s by the New Left, who tried to diminish the concept of a "Western canon" and literary history in favor of race, gender, and class. It's only now that they've finally seized control of narratives, criticism, and storytelling, in general. That product is woke-ism.
Well, MacDonalds always needs people. Have you watched Hamlet? It is insane but fascinating. "Nothing to say" indeed. I hope girly learns to like old white guys, with her brains she is going to be working on a lot of them. On her knees...
Ask her if she likes Lion King, West Side Story, or Mean Girls and then tell her those were all inspired by that "dead white guy"
@@ohifonlyx33 no joke. That dead white guy is the inspiration behind toms and tons of modern literature. She just didn’t like putting effort into anything and I’m pretty sure she basically only read YA romance in her down time.
There's little wrong with racism or sexism, anyway.
Reminds me of when I was at Uni many many moons ago. One of the books we were covering was Hemingway's The Old Man and the Sea. The claptrap the lecturer was spouting about it was driving me insane. In the end I had to open my gob and quote Hemingway himself on the subject "it's just a story about a man and a fucking big fish, don't let anyone tell you different". He'd said it in an interview when the interviewer began talking about the subtext blah blah blah. My lecturer wasn't impressed which was ok because the feeling was mutual. My time at uni was short lived. They invent this shit to justify and protect their jobs and tenured professorships.
Of course. Not that I don't mind making a game of metaphors and things in some media and I enjoy but I do as a joke.
It's the modern view towards art. Modern art usually doesn't have a clear definitive meaning. When asked what it is, they say that is up to you. Those professors try to apply this principle to art in the past which have only one valid interpretation, the artist's.
So fucking true lol!!!!
Lol what a clever way to end your research in a quote "it's just a story about a man and a fucking big fish".
Without Respect, We Reject
-Doomcock
HAIL DOOMCOCK
@@enalb5085 tje future ruler of the earth !
Disparu would make a great addition to pop culture roundup.
Am I wrong or are they just pissed off because we are fighting them against appropriating what we supposedly appropriated.
Sounds about right…and judging by their behavior, they’re not too happy about it! And that makes me smile ear to ear 😂
basically this. They just assumed they could pay off enough media shills to silence the criticism and it failed... and now clearly this is about ego. The fans, whom these networks execs just feel are inherently beneath them, are throwing a massive wrench into their plans.
I think it's hilarious they are accusing the fans of gatekeeping when they are the ones that bought it and control it. Like we have some type of mystical powers to force them to not ruin it.
Translation: "Tolkien is ours now. Get out."
Our precious. ( gollum voice)
Our reply: "What you got is not Tolkien, Tolkien makes money."
The most tragic thing from this is that Tolkien’s work was loved on a lot of spectrums (still is) and brought a fandom spanning in the millions if not billions together for the love of his work, than you have these ppl trying to destroy his work by “fixing” it with current political mindset that has no place in this amazing setting, well try as they might we the real fans will remain strong and will not allow them to divide us with their bs.
“This shadow even darkness must pass, and when the sun shines it’ll shine out the clearer”
- Samwise Gamgee
Why quote Movie Sam rather than Book Sam?
@@philippalinton5850 Why can’t I quote from the movie? They got me into the books in the first place and Sams quote from Two Towers film helped me overcome a dark chapter in my life
That's fair enough. And I'm glad to hear that. 🙂
But a lot of people hating on RoP seem unaware of the many changes Peter Jackson made in his film adaptation of LotR. I love the films, but some things in them I will never accept.
@@philippalinton5850 the movies at least respect the books. Changes were made out of necessity. Every line from Sam in the movie was iconic
@@cerscil unfortunately the films elevate Sam over Frodo. Frodo is wiser and stronger in the book. The films robbed him of his heroism - in the book, he stabbed the Witch King at Weathertop, defied the Nazgul on his own at Bruinen, stabbed a troll in Moria, proved himself to be Faramir's equal, and also never believed Gollum over Sam or sent Sam away. Millions who have never read the book judge Frodo by his film portrayal. A lost opportunity. I'm afraid it makes me cynical about Film Sam's iconic moments, because he was allowed to shine, and Frodo wasn't.
I love Book Frodo and Book Sam far more than their film counterparts.
And again - a perfectly summarized and verbally masterfully crafted rant over these really twisted times conjured up by really twisted minds!! Thank you for this!!!✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom." -- Gandalf the Grey
Man the Tolkien Society is just a dumpster fire now huh? That’s what happens when SJW’s infect a series.
If true fans don't gatekeep and are too inclusive, the DIE cult will infest the fanbase and start excluding "problematics."
sold their soul for clout.... learning the hard way it's worth it's weight in gold...
I never expected Tolkien's beloved myth to be desecrated and burned to the ground by these people. They claim to like Tolkien but their action and speech are the opposite. They have destroyed Star Wars which I used to like. Now they're out to destroy (or in their -speak correct or rectify) Tolkien. I can only weep and lament at the death of Tolkien's legacy.
They had to wait until his son died to have a chance to butcher this series just goes to show you these people had no intention of making this series good or respecting his work
@@seth5472 Couldn't agree more, my friend.
Just assume theyre always lying and cut any you find out of your life. The disgusting creatures deserve to live seperate from the humans
Tolkien will not be destroyed because his canon is the books. And every adaptation, be it movie, game or series, is just a separate work. Star Wars Canon was modified, so it was destroyed.
@@UchihaOlavo Yes!
1:45 The more I see of Amazon's "Rings of Power", the more it looks like the producers got confused and modeled the series after the wrong 2001 film, using "Dungeons and Dragons" for their template rather than "The Fellowship of the Ring"!
For its budget, "Rings of Power" looks no better than a cheap SciFi Channel fantasy series from the early 2000s (not surprising, since "Wheel of Time" looked the same way). Heck, even those Hallmark-produced fantasy miniseries of the late '90s (such as "The Odyssey" and "Merlin") looked better, despite their mediocre-to-poor '90s CGI effects. After Peter Jackson set the bar for big-budget fantasy film in 2001 - _over twenty years ago_ - Hollywood has, for whatever reason, chosen to take us back to 1997. In that case, we all might as well just rewatch Armand Assante's Odysseus poking cyclopses in the eye instead!
Plus they have twice the budget of PJ's Trilogy. I suspect these highly-funded, yet budget-looking woke flops are hiding a bunch of money laundering.
As someone who’ve seen Dungeon & Dragons, this makes me more concerned.
Duuuuuude. Merlin was actually surprisingly awesome and the COSTUMES!! Omg!!!! I didn't not expect them to look so good in Merlin.
As an American, I am appalled that Tolkien's works are being ripped apart like this. I have been a fan of Lord of the Rings since I was 10 and there is no way they are taking this from us!
Thank you for holding these institutions accountable. I appreciate your diligence, honesty, and fine efforts.
If you mean the so called society, then they are scammers.
What the heck is so morally wrong with Gimli & Legolas, and Frodo & Sam, developing bonds of mutual respect and camaraderie that they have to insert romantic relationships into it? For people that so often cry against 'toxic masculinity', this showing of mutual friendship and supporting is always made into something different.
it's an attack on male friendship. It's ironic with the toxic masculinity crowd that they have helped fueled this by reading gay subtext in every male friendship in media that real life male friends are reluctant to show affection to one another. It's also the fact that these "deep" thinkers are really superficial that they can't understand human relationships that don't have a materialistic goal such as physical sex. Tolkien was in WWI. He understood the bond men have who face death together something these modern "deep" thinkers don't.
I don't mind gay characters when they are written that in mind, but it really makes me mad that people are trying to ship EVERY character with each other who just happen to have deep friendship with another character. Is that how less they value real friendship?
“Those who cannot conceive Friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a Friend. The rest of us know that though we can have erotic love and friendship for the same person yet in some ways nothing is less like a Friendship than a love-affair. Lovers are always talking to one another about their love; Friends hardly ever about their Friendship. Lovers are normally face to face, absorbed in each other; Friends, side by side, absorbed in some common interest. Above all, Eros (while it lasts) is necessarily between two only. But two, far from being the necessary number for Friendship, is not even the best. And the reason for this is important.
... In each of my friends there is something that only some other friend can fully bring out. By myself I am not large enough to call the whole man into activity; I want other lights than my own to show all his facets... Hence true Friendship is the least jealous of loves. Two friends delight to be joined by a third, and three by a fourth, if only the newcomer is qualified to become a real friend. They can then say, as the blessed souls say in Dante, 'Here comes one who will augment our loves.' For in this love 'to divide is not to take away.” ~ The Four Loves
@@F0R35T3R :O
@@chuiga2935 They are stuck in a teenager girl mentality when this demographic make shipps out of everyone mainly in anime, even straight guys and girls. I was into this for awhile, but I grew up I guess.
"The potential of telling silence in the relatioship between Legolas and Gimli."
"Oh, they didn't say anything about it. That's how you definitely know it happened." lol
What, are they trying to make them gay?
Yeah cause nothing says two guys are gay for each other like discussions on which women are the most beautiful. I mean if you just ignore the words and inject a non-existent subtext you can say anything
@@waylander9265 Is that a yes?
when your 'academic work' follows the exact same logic as a 'shipper' on twitter.... i think it's safe to say you've jumped the shark as an academic...
They use the same fucking arguments that were used doing the witch trials and think it's new for fucks sake.
I've also seen them use all the awful arguments once used against women like "she deserved it" and "she doth protest too much".
These people are truly retarded and it makes my blood boil.
Same with Doctor Who. No-one wanted to see a female Doctor because they thought it would be a better character, they wanted to see it because it was a blow against the 'patriarchy'. Then when a woman gets the job the activists move on to the next thing to tear down, the fans and the show suffer.
Man, I'm so tired of seeing all of these great franchises getting completely butchered by these woke lunatics. It's truly sad.
I'm a lifelong Tolkien fan. If any movie or video adaptation of Tolkien strays too far from the source material (In my subjective opinion) I turn it off. I then I walk over to my bookcase, pull out the source material and sit down to read (usually with a cup of coffee/tea). I can't and won't define what constitutes straying too far...I vote with the remote.
“He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien
Weapons, architecture, clothing, language, food, military formations, societal structure, landscape, even Lenny Henry's character's accent - all based on and grounded in those of ancient Western Europe - everything but the people in this show.
This has made me sad -- reading Tolkien was the pinnacle of my early teens.
A big round of applause for the Post Modernists who make nothing because they are too busy deconstructing everything, to suit their own misaligned beliefs.
Canadian universities breed them like rabbits.
I am a Post Post Modernist. I look at the past for inspiration in its grandiosity, vibrant color and liveliness.
When you deconstruct everything you are left out with ruins.
They will not stop until they've layed to waste everything we care about
And? What are we just going to do? Cry over the ashes of what we love while they gloat?
I say we go to their sites' forums, make fake accounts, and bomb them with messages that explicitly say they are anti-Tolkien.
@@SamtheBravesFan no I would strangle them
"Its not about what Tolkien said, it's about what we can make people believe what he meant."
You couldn't have said it any better, and that makes me sad
The Tar-Miriel art is one of the most beautiful I have ever seen. Also, by her time Numenor had become a nation of conquerors. ZERO chance there would be Haradrim blood in it.
"Το κακό δεν μπορεί να δημιουργήσει τίποτα καινούργιο, μπορεί μόνο να διαφθείρει και να καταστρέψει αυτά που οι καλές δυνάμεις έχουν εφεύρει ή κατασκευάσει." -J.R.R. Tolkien
Bro. Gimme this keyboard
@@MattyPan118 Ποιο πληκτρολόγιο θέλεις να σου δώσω; ο_Ο
@@MattyPan118 Greek
After trying to suffer through the first episode of the Wheel of Time in my second attempt to watch the garbage through... I don't know how much more "love, care, and affection" I can take from Amazon, to be honest.
It blows my mind that anyone would watch the Wheel of Time - a story based on a voluminous, episodic tale, written by a relatively modern author, with plenty of female "representation", perfect for television - be adapted with a child's level of writing and character design - never mind with a large amount of current-day political misandry thrown in for good measure, and then think: "You know what? We should let these same people adapt the appendices of the Lord of the Rings!" You know, all of those great short stories Tolkien wrote about the hubris of man and horror that befalls those who deconstruct and deconstruct until they find themselves far from the path of wisdom - under the thumb of Morgoth.
"Nah, It'll be fine!"
I guess I was lucky and never knew about the books before this for Wheel of Time. But I am tempted to read them. just to see how much they fucked up.
"And last of all the mounting wave, green and cold and plumed with foam, climbing over the land, took to its bosom Tar-Míriel the Queen, fairer than silver or ivory or pearls. Too late she strove to ascend the steep ways of the Meneltarma to the holy place; for the waters overtook her, and her cry was lost in the roaring of the wind."
The Silmarillion, Akallabêth
Fairer than silver, ivory and pearls eh? :) Tar-Miriel, one of the Dunedain, the Numenoreans, you know these guys?
"They took off their masks now and again to cool them, as the day-heat grew, and Frodo saw that they were goodly men, pale-skinned, dark of hair, with grey eyes and faces sad and proud. They spoke together in soft voices, at first using the Common Speech... and then changing to another language of their own. To his amazement, as he listened Frodo became aware that it was the Elven-tongue that they spoke... and he looked at them with wonder, for he knew then that they must be Dúnedain of the South, men of the line of the Lords of Westernesse"
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"They became thus in appearance, and even in powers of mind, hardly distinguishable from the Elves - but they remained mortal, even though rewarded by a triple, or more than a triple, span of years."
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"Riding one day in the forests of the Westlands he saw a woman, whose dark hair flowed in the wind, and about her was a green cloak clasped at the throat with a bright jewel; and he took her for one of the Eldar, who came at times to those parts of the Island. But she approached, and he knew her for Erendis, and saw that the jewel was the one that he had given her; then suddenly he knew in himself the love that he bore her, and he felt the emptiness of his days. Erendis seeing him turned pale and would ride off, but he was too quick, and he said: "Too well have I deserved that you should flee from me, who have fled so often and so far! But forgive me, and stay now."
You know the Numenoreans, ethnically descendants of the Edain of Beleriand, the three ethnic groups Hadorians/Marachians:
Yellow-haired they were for the most part, and blue-eyed; but not so was Túrin, whose mother was Morwen of the house of Bëor.1
The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Ch 17, Of the Coming of Men into the West
Beorians:
"The Men of [the House of Bëor] were dark or brown of hair, with grey eyes...."
The Silmarillion, Quenta Silmarillion, Ch 17, Of the Coming of Men into the West
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"The Folk of Hador were ever the greatest in numbers of the Atani, and in renown (save only Beren son of Barahir descendant of Bëor). For the most part they were tall people, with flaxen or golden hair and blue-grey eyes, but there were not a few among them that had dark hair, though all were fair-skinned." HoME12 The Peoples of Middle-earth
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"The Númenóreans were not of uniform racial descent. Their main division was between the descendants of the “House of Hador” and the “House of Bëor”. These two groups originally had distinct languages; and in general showed different physical characteristics. Each House had, moreover, numerous followers of mixed origin. The people of Bëor were on the whole dark-haired (though fair-skinned), less tall and of less stalwart build; they were also less long-lived. Their Númenórean descendants tended to have a smaller life-span: about 350 years or less. The people of Hador were strong, tall, and for the most part fair-haired. But the chieftains of both Houses had already in Beleriand intermarried. The Line of Elros was regarded as belonging to the House of Hador through Eärendil (son of Tuor, the great-great-grandson of Hador); but it was also descended on the distaff side from the House of Bëor through Elwing wife of Eärendil, daughter of Dior, son of Beren (last chieftain of the House of Bëor, and seventh in direct descent from Bëor)." The Nature of Middle-earth
Why the heck they did not use the Haradrim as the go to people for having this diversity checkbox?! Haradrim were dark skinned!
You think they know they exist? I doubt it.
It sucks when you can't get excited for something you've been waiting 30 years for.
I want a black gandalf
@Pet boy - I want a White Black Panther.
If you just teach yourself a deconstructive Post-Modern world view, you'll be able to look forward to it 👌
@@anon_laughing_man Oh and a white Mace Windu!
@@LeeerroyJenkins I want white Mace Windu played by Nicholas Cage.
I have never been the biggest Tolkien fan, but even I know that Tolkien despised any form of allegory. He just wanted to tell a story without allegories or hidden messages behind it. Another case where the people who make themselves the advocates of somebody's legacy have no idea about the man and his views.
What I also do not understand: why just take established characters and gender/race swap them? It's such a lazy, hamfisted and in many ways disrespectful approach; just imagine a Zulu chieftain being played by a white man! Why not create your own niche and try to fit other ethnicites into the story in an organic way? I would love to see a show about the Easterlings and their internal struggles, their relationship with Sauron, or the reasons why they turned against the other people. And honestly, it would ruin the immersion for me if some of the Easterlings were played by white actors. There is enough diversity in the LOTR, it doesn't have to be inserted or "invented" by unimaginative amateurs.
Diversity can also exist in seemingly homogenous groups, lack of melanin doesn't equal lack of diversity. That's something people always forget. It's one of the things that irk me when they shove random black people in stuff where you could see there's a history and culture for everyone else except the black or other "non-white" insert. It nagged me for a long time why it was so off-putting. If it was a real close knit culture that existed in unity for ages, why are distinct racial/ethnic features present? That only occurs if there are distinct cultural differences at play that prevent complete mixing, but you're also shown none of those exist. It makes no sense, that's not how reality works and everyone intuitively knows this. There's a reason you could tell a Korean person and Japanese person apart, or a Norwegian from a Brit, even who comes from the north, south, east or west in the same country. So when they say it's normal for Lenny Henry to appear in a group so dissimilar from him with no distinctions amongst them despite his existence proving otherwise it's jarring like a while Zulu chieftain. They're pushing modern ethnic populations that exist for specific reasons in worlds where none of those exist. You can't make a historical Chinese drama with random Native Americans mixed in with no explaination how this co-existence happened while pushing them as one cohesive tribe that don't intermarry to preserve their own unique traits. That math doesn't add up. The ethnic make up for most populations gradually bleed in and out to closer you get to one or the farther you go too (barring stuff like slavery or mass immigration possible by modern trasportation).
I'm tired of my skin tone being used as justification for ridiculousness.
Tolkien created a masterpiece from the ground up. Making an entire universe before even people knew it was Middle-Earth. Before Arda in the Timeless Hall of Eru Ilúvatar, and his Ainur creating the realm of Arda throught music with harmony cords (with Melkor disruptive cord , even when the Ainur took physical form to live on Arda to shape the world. This was a time before the elves were around.
See history before time began. Tolkien wrote about everything and anything in His universe. This is what people love about him, his work, and his stories.
Middle-Earth is loved by people from all walks of life.
And Tolkien legacy doesn't need to be edited by people who doesn't give a crap about his work, his life's work. If you start to edit or change anything his wrote about, it's wrong on so many levels. No wonder Amazon is having all this backlash.
Peter Jackson's movies told Tolkien's story and stay true to what Tolkien wrote about.
"We had no interest in putting in our junk, our baggage into these movies." - Peter Jackson.
I agree with almost everything about this comment.
The only thing I disagree with is you assertion that Peter Jackson's movies stay true to what Tolkien wrote about. If you had specified Jackson's Lord of the Rings Trilogy, then I would have agreed with you.
Jackson's Hobbit Trilogy however, contained multiple inaccuracies and plenty of unnecessary additions to The Hobbit.
@@Jay_76 I was mainly on about Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy.
I took a year of "English" at uni. It's all assignments like this - take random work and project political narratives into it that were never there.
I left after a year. These people clearly graduated with honours.
And straight into their parents' basements for profitable careers as influencers.
Very good analysis but you forgot to mention a critical part of the MO. After the series stuggles to get any views they will blame the fans for 'not even giving it a chance' or 'finally showing how biggoted they truly are'. It's the same playbook they already used a hundred times.
Which is why if called a bigot I just ya "ya, and?" Cause it makes there brain hurt and I already know they won't listen to me saying I'm not so funnier to agree and watch there faces.
And the shareholders will care because? This is their failing, they are working with other people's money. And that has a time limit.
@@xhagast well, considering the enormous backlash Disney got for everything tanking.... not that much it seems.
@@fukkami6204 The clock is ticking, though.
Years ago I heard a phrase: "Take the toys away from the boys".
They meant video games, sci-fi and fantasy.
I was watching The Terminal List (awesome show btw) and there was a Rings of Power trailer. I've been following the show's development and am so disappointed. I said "no" with such pain and despair, my family thought I was hurt. No, just seeing the death of a beloved world.
I'm shocked amazon can put out something like that, and then completely bastardize LOTR, I kept seeing the teaser pop up immediately skipping it I don't want THEIR version of it.
Damn and I thought after watching ”Terminal list“ that Amazon could make normal entertainment
I love your content, can’t get enough of it.
It's a subversion of the books into something they were never meant to be -- plain and simple... and yes, I've read all the books too. Now having read the books doesn't make me an expert, however it also does not make blind to the fact that this new series is (or will be) a subversion.
Fans love what is true to what they love and when it deviates, there is obvious backlash (as we've seen, good or bad), in order to protect what they hold dear. Please don't blame the passionate for calling out bs for what it is. It's the fans that keep lore alive.
In the words of Gomez Adams
Gomez Adams : " Has the planet gone mad? My brother... passion's hostage. I seek justice! Denied. I shall not submit! I shall conquer! I shall rise! My name is Gomez Addams, and I have seen evil!
I have seen horror!
I have seen the unholy maggots which feast in the dark recesses of the human soul! I have seen all this officer. But until today, I have never seen... YOU "
Let us mamushka on the faces of the wicked
I literally played that scene in my head as I read this 😂 🤣😂
He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom.
None of the elves in this soulless garbage look like elves. They look like people "dressed up" as elves. In the movie trilogy, they looked ethereal and different. Hell, they even "The Hobbit" films got the look right. This show is so fucking soulless.
When this show comes out I want it to be seen for the crap it is. I want everyone involved having their names attached to the rape of art.
It’s Amazon.
Where any of us surprised after what they did to Amber on Invincible and…..
Wheel of Time.
They ruined Amber in Invincible, they turned an understanding white girl into the cliche angry black woman…
“diversity” lol
I'm disgusted by this fan fiction already, Celebrimbor, the most important elf in the second era looks like a middle aged lesbian mom...
All the Elves I'm the show look like people you would see walking down at a Walmart or an LA street. Absolutely disgraceful.
I actually lmao'd at this comment. The first time I saw the pics I thought, "Oh, gosh, please don't make him gay". 😂
Usually when I see comments about how producers, writers, etc love the source material, it usually means "they love it so much they want to 'improve' it."
They want to deconstruct it because their very nature is perversion/corruption.
I'm 47 seconds into the video and cant help myself - need to click that like button. Well said mate! And now for the rest of it!
Only the bots are going to like this. Poor Jeff this like his failed marriage will cost him BILLIONS.
To be fair I don't think he cares one bit. These ultra woke shows are not meant to make money, they are made to score ESG ranking points and they are perfectly ok with destroying a few franchises in the process, just look at Disney.
@@Hemestal he cares he wanted his own “game of thrones” so be bought Tolkien and ruined it
Fantastic job, here! This "rant" has been mine as well for the last 24hrs since I learned about the way they are taking-over Tolkien's wonderful creation... Good job, Man!
I notice the fake Tolkien shill channels are no longer excited about the "showrunner's vision." Lol.
Really? I haven't been hanging out at their channels since they went all in after being bought off.
That's interesting. I unsubcribed from them when I could see what they were doing.
"I don't want to live on this planet anymore." - Prof Farnsworth
Good one man, I'm really enjoying your stuff, keep up the great work.
Rings of Dumpster Power's Tar-Miriel as a HARADRIM?
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NUMENORIANZ
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SHIIEETT!
By that logic, Elves, Dwarves and Hobbits are also Haradrim, but then again, you wouldn't expect much logic from Amazon's perversion in the first place. So it checked out. The whole thing is a bad Fan-fiction, an insult to Tolkien fans.
Brilliant critique, Disparu. You just deconstructed the deconstructors.
Valars bless you, old chap.
Tolkien is one of (numbered) good things which came from Britain last century, so as a fan of Professor's work from a different culture I wholly support your voice against those woke-obsessed "deconstructors", "improvers" and "modernizers" who try to corrupt and twist it to the point of non-recognition. We (non-English) should strive to learn more about Tolkien's homeland, culture and world view through his work, not force ours on his.
P.S. But now you understand well how it feels to be colonized, right? ;) When a bunch of arrogant, selfish and greedy assh***s come from across the sea, claim and take things that you value or hold spiritually dear as their own, and try to denigrate and trample you if you resist.
P.P.S. But I'm a bit surprised that such an "activist-teacher" as that Reid woman can thrive in Texas. I reckoned those hardened and God-fearing texans don't like to put up with all the wokist sh*t creeping out of California (and NY, and other nests of those intellectual parasites).
We have always known what it's like to be colonised in 1066 England was invaded by the Norman's from France. Who destroyed England's Anglo Saxon culture and mythology. It was this that inspired Tolkien to write his stories which was inspired by Anglo Saxon myths. His intention was to recreate the mythology of England. But now it seems for that once again our mythology is to be destroyed.
Christians colonised Europe before obliterating most of our indigenous cultures. It's odd how people seemingly forget that Europeans were the first to be colonised by a foreign religion on a widescale. Now we are facing it a second time by another cult called wokism.
We keep the wackos locked in Austin.
Not many calis last in even Austin amusingly enough. They throw a tantrum and go back home when there normal shit doesn't work and they don't realize all the towns around Austin watch them like hawks.
Secondary location is Dallas if they are only a bit crazy and we call Dallas the foreigners city.
In Texas, non Texans are foreigner's. We remember we started as our own country and never lost that thinking so even if your from Oklahoma or Arkansas (let alone New York or Cali) your a Foreigner and no different to us then a foreigner from south America or Europe.
(You may think I'm kidding but I'm actually dead serious)
@@Apollo890 not forgetting the jolly old Romans who ‘visited’ us for a few hundred years!!
Buzz Lightyear with his hand on Woody's back: ''Nazi's. Nazi's, everywhere!''
"REPRESENTATION!"
This doesn't represent Tolkien.
"YOU'RE FIRED!"
Ok.
"YAY THE MESSAGE!"
*negative reviews*
"EVERYONE IS RACIST AND PHOBIC!"
*low viewership*
"EV...dammit, where's our money?"
I would love to deconstruct these people in the style of a Hellraiser cenobite...because everything I loved and got me through rough times has been destroyed by remedials playing at being experts. I hate these people
...... Thank you for that image.
I'm so using that every time they anger me because that truly is the best punishment for these assholes I've ever heard.
Truly. Thank you.
Just think, when Amazon remakes the original trilogy for a "modern" audience Gimli's line to Legolas will be "No one tosses a dwarf's salad!"
'No one determines my gender...' and 'Don't tell the disabled lesbian...'
Amazing explanation about the why and how of "deconstruction" in this context! That word gets thrown around a lot and people should hear what it entails when practiced.
James Lindsay describes critical theory as being like an industrial solvent that reduces all concepts to meaninglessness. If they can't rebuild the pieces they will just happily leave everything ruined and move onto the next target until they've achieved their cultural revolution.
@@MrSnudger JL is a smart dude. The assessment is keen and the reality is a sad truth
Marxism deconstructs literature and history in order to replace the truth with convenient lies. The other side of the coin pretty much does the same.
If the tolkien society lecture hall were to mysteriously burn to the ground, tragically with everyone of its members inside...well that, that would just be a shame....
I would have zero issue with Amazon creating their own story and world, actually, I'd applaud them because there isn't much originality going on right now. The fact that they're doing this to Tolkien, and attacking the fans, is what I have a problem with. You cannot get someone to like you by screaming at them, it's as simple as that.
Ever heard of Glen Cook? GREAT things could be done with his stuff given a good budget.
@@xhagast I haven't, so I'll take your word for it. I think they could have done something amazing with a book that wasn't as developed as LOTR. Shame, such a waste.
@@oldkingspook They just want a hook. A name people know.
Reminded of Gandalf’s words to Saruman: “He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom”.
There is a fundamental cognitive flaw to the mindset "Everyone should have my point of view."
It's not just the self-centred arrogance or utter lack of regard and empathy for one's fellow human beings - consider what it means for everyone to think "Everyone should have my point of view". It's a fundamentally impossible aspiration. So what such people dishonestly do is to bend the wishes of others to their own will, in the process denying them their agency and 'relieving' them of their humanity. This is one way in which you become a monster.
Very good mate. These people involved are absolutely mental.
Thank you sir👍
Thank you for watching :)
Brilliant analysis, and thank you.
As an European I'm very tired of Americans trying to shove their ideology and social problems down our throats, and expect us to drop everything we are doing to tend to their wailing when something goes wrong in their country (wich most of the time it's their own fault).
I still remember the times when we all feared the Tolkien sodiety because they could come after you for using a pseudonim online that happened to be copyrighted. Now they do this.
I really enjoy your content, I feel you resonate my thoughts and feelings, but put them
In an articulate and entertaining way, of which I could never emulate.
But as for Tolkiens work..it has been a part of who I am, I remember been read the hobbit in school in the early 80s the been gifted the LOTRs by my Dad. Tolkien to me, was cherished memories, memories that are been overshadowed by this shite.
He That Breaks a Thing To Find Out What It Is Has Left The Path of Wisdom
I remember when the first cartoon adaptations by Warner Bros. of the Hobbit & LOTR first came out. They were flawed, pale imitations of Tolkien's works, like silent film projections by candlelight through a dirty glass plane against a cave wall. Despite that, I still enjoyed the Bakshi portion recognizing it as a product of its time. Peter Jackson's LOTR was a massive improvement, a beautiful distillation with a better signal-to-noise ratio, akin to High Fidelity (although the Hobbit was bloated). What the ROP suggests is more like a constant echo at high decibels of white noise: no soul, no respect, no intellect, and a lot of verbal poop flung by the chimps in their echo chambers.
Since when have cancer cells ever been expected to be hospitable to it’s host?
“A day may come when the courage of men fails” well guys we have finally got to that point
"But it is not today." My wallet is very brave and not a dollar of mine shall pass towards this.
If Tolken was alive, or even his son Christopher....this modern debacle would kill them 🙄
And poor Walt and Roy would have a coronary if they saw the state their company was in?
If either were alive then this would not have happened.
If you ever come across a leftist, who is making the argument that Tolkien's work needs updating to fit with the taste's of the "modern audience", just ask them when, over the last 400+ years, Shakespeare, Homer, or Dickens, was rewritten to suit the audience of the time! And when they can't, explain to them the reason great works of history have been passed down through the generations unscathed, is because they are timeless!
I doubt they'd get it, after all, they are the book burners of our time! Joining a long list, alongside history's most notorious degenerates, such as the Na*i's, the Spanish Inquisition, the Young Turks, and numerous communist regimes!
The thing is, most of these old classics have received that treatment in one form or another, again and again as the times change. Why haven't you head of all these then? Because it's done by independent groups, small-scale theaters etc. and presented to small audiences who are into that kind of thing. And no one is complaining, because it's done honestly and not in an effort to devalue and replace the original works.
That's too intelligent for the.
Instead when they argue it needs to be changed just yell in there face "your a colonizing bigot!!!!!!" And give them a taste of there own medicine.
Trust me. It's fucking hilarious 😂
This whole mess boils down to the fact that copyright protection is absurdly long. If copyright only lasted for the life of the author, all of Tolkien's works would be in the public domain. That would mean Amazon could make its terrible adaption, while a competing producer could make a more faithful adaption, and the public could decide which was more deserving of viewing.
But because copyright protection is so ridiculously long, it means Amazon has exclusive rights, and thus everyone is stuck with only their crappy adaption, with no competition.
Copyright protection lengths need to be rolled back enormously.
it comes out of copyright in twenty years, so they are cashing in now! :-)
@@jardinvernonnet3006 It does? Where did you read that?
i'm really not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.... if Tolkein was public domain, the real fans would still be shitting all over this kind of repurposing of Tolkein's work...
@@sapphirevilya Copyright for books in the UK lasts for 70 years after the author's death. Tolkien died in 1973.
@@johnneville403 So I looked it up, and it turns out the LotR and The Hobbit books will be copyrighted until September 3, 2043.
However, the books Christopher Tolkien edited makes his intervention on the literature is accounted as copyrighted.. that translates that the books he edited will be copyrighted until 17 January, 2090.
I think the show would have been fine, if they had not tried to make it a Lord of the Rings prequel series. As generic fantasy, it is perfectly acceptable... But as it stand now, they are creating little more than fan-fiction. The insinuation that Tolkien intended for Legolas and Gimli to be queer is just so bizarre.
Stop buying anything from Amazon.
Cut them off.
I can’t wait to see you break down each episode of this rancid show. I saw all your halo and kenobi breakdowns and needless to say this show is gonna get exactly what it deserves
I have loved Lord of the Rings ever since my father took me to see the Fellowship of the Ring in theaters when I was just a wee little lad. Tolkien has greatly impacted me and inspired me throughout my life. I have an extremely intricate and high fidelity tattoo of Sauron's helm (based on the model used in the films) on my forearm done by one of the finest artists in my city. I also have the The Witch-King of Angmar's helm tattooed further up across my left bicep/ tricep.
They are aesthetically brilliant but it's what they represent metaphorically as symbols for the corruption of man that is the reason I chose to permanently embed them onto my body. I have received many compliments and initiated many great conversations, friendships and even relationships because of them. I have always been proud of having those tattoos and never felt any regret or shame over them whatsoever. After seeing Disparu's and many other youtubers coverage of the upcoming Rings of Power, however, it is with equal parts sadness and horror at this nightmare inducing zombified fan fiction resurrected corpse of a production, that I must announce the removal of my tattoos.
I'm scheduled for my elective arm amputation in two weeks time. Sure, I could have had them removed via laser but that would not be nearly sufficient enough of a gesture to convey how deeply dishonorable it would be to have the audacity to still be wearing these tattoos *after* this..."Lord of the Rings iNsPiReD" series has aired. It was either that, or commit ritual Seppuku (Hara-Kari), but I don't have an assistant on hand willing to decapitate me after I've plunged the tantō blade into my belly and severed my abdominal aorta. Such is life. At least by going ahead with the elective amputation procedure I won't have to live with the everlasting shame and dishonor of displaying those beautiful, ethereal tattoos representing a bygone era of literature and cinema that was then bastardized by the soulless Amazonian overlords. I'd rather be a one armed man with dignity than a two armed dishonorable sellout, endlessly cucked by a trillion dollar corporation.
"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King."
That bit about the Norse faith was so on point. Christian missionaries would often infiltrate another faith and appropriate their Gods as Christ in various forms. At least the Muslims are more straightforward. They would simply unlife you if you worship another Gods.
The Catholics did a fair bit of that as well, to be fair. Charlemagne didn’t build his empire through infiltration and the Moors weren’t persuaded to leave Iberia.
What are you talking about? Your understanding of history needs work.
Christians are henotheists. They know all gods exist in the world. Henotheism simply recognizes the logical conclusion to hierarchy isn't a series of different pantheons but a single pantheon starting and ending with the origin to the gods themselves. That's the Trinity. Christ is the only way to commune with the Trinity.
to put it more simply, you want to be greater than Zeus/Jupiter, Shiva, Odin? Because you can become their judge by following Christ.
To be fair. Mohammed literally did the same thing.
Allah was the middle eastern pagan creator god.
The stone they go to kiss? Pagan.
The kabba they circle? Pagan
Many of the practices in the Quran?
Jewish and Christian and pagan.
Muslims just destroy but there oh holy Momo absolutely took a page from the Christians in creating and running his cult.
@@taudvore259 lol I know Christians and Catholics love to say they are not the same but dude. Both Christian just different sects.
@@anothercat1300 wrong wrong wrong and painfully wrong
Who taught you such drivel?!?!
It's like when they deconstruct a cheese cake on Masterchef. And the overriding feeling I get when they present their plate is....that's not a cheese cake.
The best part is when Amazon Prime loses money on this travesty. I am cancelling my subscription as soon as I watch the last episode of The Boys and I'm sure there are many more that will do the same.
The fact that they broke their undertaking to NZ to make the show there after filming the first season losing various financial incentives in the process, moved production to the UK to sound stages at Shepparton studios that haven't been built yet (Netlix booked existing ones), haven't started filming S2 & can't till they have those sound stages, makes me think they're running scared. I think they're waiting for the reaction to S1 before they start S2. Otherwise why go to those lengths? The usual rabid attacks are not coming as thick & fast as with other works either. Rather they're doing their best to 'persuade'. Interesting.
'He who breaks a thing to see how it is made has left the path of wisdom'. Any time people 'deconstruct' something it means they have missed the point of it.
"The fan reaction to meeting the showrunners are more encouraging than seeing footage." What the hell? These people must be a scammers dream come true - as long as you promise good things they are willing to part with money and time over 3 years? Maybe that works for those couch potatoes who watch anything and everything put in front of them but I only watch things that have won me over.
Rings of Power is Not the same universe as Tolkien’s books. Despite using familiar names & places, It's a totally different place. It has totally different rules from the ones established in the books. It is not recognizable as a LOTR adaptation or prequel. Bezos ROP adaptation isn't based on Tolkien's works or his world. Amazon looked at the Lord of the Rings appendices for their source material, claiming now it’s an inspiration but they appear to be about as related to Tolkien as D&D or World of Warcraft. From the Showrunners to the Super Fans, to the paid reviewers, paid fan sites, and clearly Amazon PR talking points which are seemingly based more in 2022 viewpoints and worldview than the one from Tolkien’s time and the detailed world he created, and his son complimented with completing some of his dad’s works or compiling and commenting on them.
It's a terrible woke Fanfiction. It has nothing to do with the world of Tolkien, not in writing, body of work, and spirit.
Yeah I felt the lack of soul in this project from the trailers, Tolkien only in name.
It is cultural appropriation at this point.
Amazon doing something with some care and affection? Ahuh say that to the wheel of time adaptation. Attention to detail is also laughable. If they cared for detail they would have got simple things right like character descriptions and there's the small matter that this is legit fan fiction. The only rights they hold to the second age is the god dam appendixes in the trilogy. I can't trust Amazon when they've shown they suck at making fantasy. Fantasy requires a lot more thought put into it. It's why TV shows avoided it for years even preferring something like sci fi over fantasy as it's such a hard thing to do right.
Does amazon not know why Japan is kicking America's ass in media like animation and comic books/Manga. Might it be because they treat the source material with some god dam respect? For gods sake the AOT anime has 2 of the top 3 spots listed for the best eps in TV history. Now not every Manga to anime adaption is good but even most of them treat the source material with respect. Amazon doesn't respect the material even though Tolkien has done all the hard work for them. Where's your original fantasy show Amazon HUH? Willing to buy someone's hard work and run amok with it but not so willing to make your own fantasy world yourself?
Also for the one prick on twitter who doesn't understand why people love the Jackson films it's quite simply because it's one of the best film trilogy's of all time. Now is 100% perfect to the books. No. But he fit in every possible thing we could. Also if we do compare the new stuff to the old stuff well the films have a very small budget compared to what Amazon can throw at this thing. If the original was a TV show with Amazon budget than hell yeah I imagine it would be a dam near perfect adaptation. The films also had a time limit and a budget limit to come to. We can't do 6 or 8 hours films as people have things to do in life. But 6 or 8 one hour long episodes is easier to manage. Yes he changed some things for story telling reasons. It is also impossible to convert everything from book to film. Some things are not going to transfer over well or easily. Like character thoughts. In a book that's simple to do but in a film that's a very difficult thing to make work. For gods sake most of the actors in the films wear real armour that was forged on set along with real swords etc. I can tell a lot of the Amazon stuff is going to be CGI. A clear example of this is the way Galadriel moved up that ice cliff in the ROP trailer looked so god dam fake and unnatural it's embarrassing a 20+ year old film puts it to shame.
The Boys is one of the best shows on TV the last 5 years. Amazon product
@@mattrasp1615 The Wheel of Time is one of the worst. I don't understand what point you think you're making. These are different shows done by different people. Amazon is just the backer. The only reason they are doing Rings of Power is because Bezos demanded a GoT type show so that's what's this will be. We already know they've broken canon because Celeborn is dead in it, yet he's alive and well in LotR book and movie. Elves can't resurrect so it's already in breach of contract with the Tolkien estate because not messing with canon was one of the stipulations in the contract. Then there's the very real issue with The Boys being written, green lit, and in production before the current trend in entertainment really got a big foothold.
All I keep seeing in my head is Amazon constantly saying "Fuck you" everytime they release anything to the fan base. Also, these activists better keep their greedy little mitts off LOTRO.
Very good, intelligent, and well-constructed analysis.
Excellent video! Thank you for what you do.