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Funny irony, of course, being the laughable us government disinformation spewed in this video. It has every dumdun midwit trope of "foreign/russian influence" in it.
Ohh men the trustful ,,investigation" and all of the articles about them by the ,,trustful" media given as example really scream objectivity and honesty. Didnt the investigation on the alleged interference result in some document unable to be read by the public accusing russia of meddling and it was so convenient for this accusation to come, around the same time Hilary's emails were leaked.
"No, the Kremlin didn't pay me to change my content into propaganda, they liked my propaganda so much already they just paid me to spread it" is certainly one of the defences ever.
You can not get Russians to pay you to say " I am the bear " . This Teletubbies video traumatized billions of children and they now fear Russia more than ever .
I am old enough to remember the 'scum' newspaper having negative articles in the early 2000s about one of the Tellietubies having a purse. Seemingly haters are gonna hate for money no matter how inocuous the target, no matter what the eara.
Tim Pool fake slamming his desk in fake rage as he says "Ukraine is OUR enemy" is still one of the funniest things he's ever done, right up there with him explaining why he can't get a date with "Well I'm certainly not the problem".
I almost forgot about that! 😂 And he says it as a guy who buys into all the "high value" dating market stuff, where what has ever really mattered most is money and influence. The guy has money, the guy has a large audience... seems like there might be something about the person with the money and influence that just doesn't make the money and influence enough.
I used to watch Lauren Chen back in 2016. I fell into the “attractive woman regurgitates your right wing views to you” trap. So glad I grew up and changed unlike her
As an old sargon, nerdrotic, mauler, tim pool subscriber... respect to you for coming around. It was hard to admit to myself that I was dead wrong about so many things.
It's really hard to change one's perspective, especially in this increasingly divided culture. My genuine congratulations to everyone who has found the wisdom amd inner strength to rise above the misinformation. That's real growth, real strength of character. You all give ME hope.
@@ryshow9118 Yeah; I unsubscribed to them when Bennie Carollo left. TYT was going in a weird direction at least a year before that, but that was probably the final straw for me.
Imagine you're a Russian soldier and when you get home you discover your rations were reduced greatly because the money that was supposed to go to your food ended up going to make New Norm.
Another case of how, in spite of the government’s posturing, this damn war is no good for the people of Russia. It’s no good for anyone at all, except for people far away who get to profit off of suffering.
Yeah this isnt the budget the average american state bud which wastes all of its budget on lgbtq crosswalks and immigrant subsedies. And btw they get paid to do their job like you wouldnt believe it but a lot of volunteers have signed simply for the money that is being given out.
@@Silver_Prussian As if Russian oligarchs aren't just constantly stealing money from the state for their own purposes. The corruption is staggering. Russia makes Democrats look like kids stealing a chocolate bar from a convenience store.
This whole thing reminded me of Jon Stewart talking about Tucker Carlson who interviewed Putin. The conclusion was: "It’s because the old civilizational battle was communism versus capitalism - that’s what drove the world since World War II. Russia was the enemy then. But now they think the battle is woke versus un-woke. And in that fight, Putin is an ally to the right. He’s their friend."
Sure, but “woke vs. un-woke” is not a real category, know what I mean? I don’t see the problem with using tools who are eager to be used. Take Satanism for example: Any politically savvy person knows that Satanism (in America) is a publicity stunt to preserve separation of church and state. If the institutional leadership of the Satanic church want to use edgy teenagers as a means to an end, I think that is okay. They surely don’t have the time and energy to explain exactly why separation of church and state is a good thing to each tier of person. It is smarter to just LARP as an edge lord and capture many intellectual tiers of people with a similar temperament. Russia is deploying the same strategy. Use a bunch of politically incoherent nerds to de-stabilize the Zionist United States. Remember: Bashar Al-Assad invited the Russian military into Syria to stop Israeli and U.S. expansion into the occupied Golan Heights. This does not mean that Russia can do no evil, however, I fail to see how using a bunch of internet tools to de-stabilize the United States is a bad thing.
What made it really funny was that the Tucker Carlson interview also showed that this was _clearly_ not the case. Tuck tried to bait Putin into attacking American leftism and Putin instead started going off on ancient claims on Poland and the brilliance of 19th century Russian philosophers. Putin doesn't know or care about woke versus un-woke and only cares about Russia and Russia as an extension of himself, he's nobody's friend but his own.
Only a truly stupid one can believe that Putin have any views and values. Man grew up in a time when the majority of population of the USSR had no views and values at all. By that time people are already knows that there won't be any promised socialist paradise and that propaganda is always lying. And to add to that, he was trained in the KGB. It's a perfect combination.
This is why I'm a big believer in the "nice opinion, did a youtuber give it to you?" motto. Don't copy any (and I mean ANY) TH-camr just because they seem cool. Yes, even this video, if there are things that seem weird or you don't understand, don't go "oh well I'm sure it's fine" no, look into it, make up your own mind. Be a person, have an opinion, don't parrot what "those TH-camrs" are saying, none of them, they're not you.
Also check your sources and how reliable they are. Many conservatives use "statistics" as argument points and its good to have a solid ground on your own sources. If you truly are too lazy to do your own research, keep in mind that personal experiences are also valid so long as you remember thats what they are and keep an open mind that someone else can have a different experience. Acknowledge it as part of a truth and accept that you dont know everything about that specific point...and move on. 🤷🏾♂️ in an age of lazy people and false facts...i think personal accounts can help against the dumber moments
Nothing wrong with using TH-cam or TH-camrs as a source. It's just another way to transmit information. The problem is trusting (any) information sources blindly with absolute lack of source critique. Also related, argument from false authority fallacy.
@JayMaverick It might be ok, as long as before endorsing them you correctly factcheck their claims. Which is easier if they leave sources in description. However all that is only possible if you are at least somewhat media literate, educated or at least have comprehension skills and reason. Some topics - especially historical, geopolitical and reality in other regions than your own can be as complicated as to be above the heads of majority of people in other regions - particulary US. There should be rating, credibiity and bias lists for all relevant youtubers for people not knowing their stuff.
"There's a functional misalignment between human psychology which evolved to learn and adopt beliefs based on a host of social factors and these algorithms which are designed simply to maximize engagement." This is excellent. Just about perfectly worded. I'll try to remember this, and if it ever comes up in conversation, I'll point to your channel.
Glad it resonated with you! The precise wording is mine, but the article I'm drawing from there is a research review by William Brady for The Conversation. It's also linked in the description, of course, but here it is directly: theconversation.com/social-media-algorithms-warp-how-people-learn-from-each-other-research-shows-211172
@@PillarofGarbageIt's odd thinking about this, personally, because I much prefer learning from concrete evidence and approaching any sort of social learning with a healthy amount of skepticism. There's a relevant video by Genetically Modified Skeptic somewhere that goes over how religions often exploit what's called "tribal empathy" (basically, preferential ingroup bias) to rope people in, and I think this may be broadly the same phenomenon or adjacent to it. As someone who was never able to feel anything remotely resembling that notion of ingroup identification... I find it morbidly fascinating, if unsettling, that individual identity can be co-opted in that way.
@@FelisImpurrator, the last sentence of your comment reeeeeally brought Fight Club to mind. Dissolution, dismantling, and/or discarding of individual identity for in-group belonging (/secured spot within a fascist regime/organization)?? Morbidly fascinating, indeed.
The Tenet Media situation and the Grifterverse being connected is honestly the least surprising news of 2024. Another awesome video, dude.👏🏽 Keep up the great work.
found your channel a couple of days ago and already gladly shared it with a friend of mine who occasionally watches stuff like the critical drinker. now he doesn't anymore. thanks a lot for your work also this is for engagement
@@Jaraxu I did one of those last year (more about the discourse than the show itself): th-cam.com/video/r5Cq7rKEvYw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CiO2A4SI9QMh3FdM probably won't be following it up anytime soon, I'm pretty behind on the show
Tim Pool: I'm a victim Victims don't get paid millions of dollars Tim. That is the exact opposite of what happens to victims. At best you were a willing "victim"
@@chriscortez2036 I've seen too much of the religious right exhibiting the same exact behavior to find any levity in it anymore, it's just... a tuesday, yk?
It's funny how we used to think that Russia constantly being the villains in media was dated, yet today, Russia itself seems to actively want to prove them right!
The real villians are the 1% and the capatlist system that enables this behaviour. The US interferes with the elections of other countries constantly, but when it happens to it's own citizens somehow it's a problem
One of my favourite things to come out of this is Glenn Greenwald getting all mad like “how DARE you suggest I get paid to spread Kremlin propaganda? I do that shit for free!”
Glen greenwald isn't the same as those other guys. I can't stand Tim pool, or Reubens, and I dislike Chen enough that I know next to nothing about her after watching like half a video years ago. I watch the daily show regularly, and support trans people. For context. Glen greenwald believes america helped make the war happen based on how they acted before the war. I've looked at all that stuff too and also believe america absolutely wanted the war. They get to fight their second biggest geopolitical enemy without risking a single American life. They fought a war in Iraq over literally nothing twenty years earlier. Hundreds of thousands dead. One Democrat spoke in congress against the war. Don't just immediately believe people willing to drone strike kids, even if they are better than people who would do that, and try to steal an election, twice. The idea that both sides are equally bad is as absurd as the idea that one side being worse makes the other good. She's just better. Russians want destabilization, and highlighting people who are honestly pointing out America's bs also accomplishes that, like getting pepple like Tim to say ridiculous stuff does. As does getting the left to be more insulting and aggressive with people on the right. They're not making friends with right wingers, they're tricking them into ruining their own country.
@@Hat_With_A_Hat_On lmao he’s is completely the same in terms of constantly spouting shit that supports Russia. He’s in this exact same sphere, along with a bunch of other fake left wing people
This comment is mostly to feed the algorithm, but I wanna offer a small piece of wisdom that'll hopefully make things seem less hopeless (see what I did there?): Back when the printing press was first invented hundreds of years ago, there were people convinced it would bring about the end of civilization. It caused chaos and upheaval like never before (to offer a bit of a lazy example, look at the printing press' role in the protestant reformation). Nowadays mass printing is a benign fact of life, it's almost dated given how digital everything is. Massive advances in any kind of technology, but especially availability of information, causes chaos as we try to adapt to it. Our parents and grandparents lived in the "fuck around" era, and we now have to live in the "find out" era when it comes to all of this mass information and technology. What comes after it is the "now we know" era. Humanity has endured and adapted countless times before, and we will again. History repeats itself way too often, but each time it does, the world ends up a little bit better than before. Stay strong, fight our corporate and media overlords at every opportunity you can find, and we will all make it through this together.
Moscow doesn’t care that much. They don’t have to. Their Soviet counterparts at the KGB took a lot more care in subterfuge but that’s because they had to (being “The” enemy kind of forced their hand). Having a lot more sympathizers in the US than in previous decades has made their job easier. If their propaganda efforts were more closely scrutinized in the public eye, you’d see a lot more degrees of separation between the Kremlin and its mouth pieces.
Thank you so much for taking the psychic damage to make this an accessible and comprehensible narrative. You made it look easy. There's no way it was easy. Excellent video. Interesting times. - N
Great endorsment from you, lovely people. While the opposite of the confusing political spectrum will likely dismiss you just for the chanell's title, you still have a job cut out of deradicalising your own extreme extreme and radicalised far-end, especially the echochamber led by likes of Hassan or Bad Empanada. They along with their fans and many more have been fooled too, and i have no idea what can we do about it. Coming from a guy born in USSR, if they don't believe me, who would they?
We've reached the logical conclusion of the thought terminating "but muh free speech!" argument. Good on pointing out how algorithms are so central to maximizing their reach too. Also never stop putting screen grabs from the Griftaverse in please. One of my favorite games is trying to find Mauler and going "Oop, there he issss!" Like Alt Right "Where's Waldo."
That's actually a really good point. How could the creators be victimized when their content didn't change in any way? Nobody's opinion was bought, nobody was paid to make propaganda. Right?
They took creative control of some of their platforms so that they could post directly to them.They made them post certain things like spreading Tucker.Carlson's supermarket visit that some of them didn't want to do The people the creators were working with knew. The two between the russians n the creators, They were working for the russians. Referred to them as such
@@christopherc8563 right, but the claim by the podcasters is that they _weren’t_ being directed by “Gregoriann” or Tenet Media, that they never changed their content in return for funding or at the direction of the funders. So I think it’s a good question: if they still had editorial independence and said/posted exactly what they sincerely believed, in what way are they a victim of the content-influence scheme? They got money and retained autonomy. A possible answer is “reputational harm”. But that comes from the scheme being publicized, not from the scheme. Or, the podcasters could say that in fact their content _was_ distorted by the funding or by requests from the funders, which would make them clearly victims (if they didn’t realize it at the time, or realized it but for some reason couldn’t resist) or collaborators (if they did and decided it was ok). But would require admitting they will sell their words, and not just for clearly identified ads, and/or admitting that what they said was and is untrue.
@natbarmore They didn't change any of their content, But they allowed them the post stuff he normally wouldn't have. They don't need to tell them to change their content.In these situations, people self.Censor because of the power dynamic. Just like the new york times doesn't need to tell writers to not write about leftists favorably
@natbarmore The people were telling them what they wanted them to post and not post.So I don't know how much editorial power The creator has had. Some of them did not want to post the grocery store video in russia but were made to That doesn't sound like independence Or having full editorial control does it? So I believe anything that they say? They are either idiots or traitors. Sorry , if I think the fact that they are Intentionally playing dumb to cover for them being traitors is worse. The fact that their defense is that they are fucking stupid plays into the fact that no one should listen to these people about anything. But it's a lie that they had independence and full control. It's in the court documents legal eagle went over if you wanna check it out
Because everything the US does leaks up north and canadian conservatives are happy to take american republican talking points and use them here. Also American news saturates Canadian news. There's no fucking escape from it. And uh....Canada is really just the little brother to America that tags along with everything
Thank goodness, you maintained the element of surprise by blurring the images of those content creators at the beginning… I would have never guessed in 1 million years that the short white smudgy blob wearing a beanie was going to be Tim Pool lol EDIT: Tim Pool was auto corrected to Temple
I love the "US bad therefore Russia good also cuz socialism". Yeah, apart from the fact that Russia isn't the USSR, the USSR itself was an imperialistic state. Sure it applied socialist policies but... Yeah, it was also a totalitarian militaristic regime with a lower labor class and an upper class made of bureaucrats, military officers, big owners of things "tasked by the state" and -of course- government officials. In no point in time Russia stopped being imperialistic and militaristic. Never, ever, not once.
You would think that more of these anti America leftists might pay a bit more attention to how people on the far right are saying the exact same things about Russia as they are.
It's like everyone forgot the Iraq war. No, not the Bush one. The Soviet one. That lasted 10 years. That lead to the rise of the Talibans when they left.
@@mondodimotori But even without going that far, its own internal politics weren't at all "a socialist state". It was 100% separated into classes. And it was militaristic within its own borders as well, as both Russia and the USSR oppressed ethinical and religious minorities. Let alone the fact that the URSS CONQUERED PARTS OF EASTERN EUROPE. I am honestly dumbfounded by how these people can ignore the reality of countries like Ukraine (just to name a relevant one now) or Romania were forced under the Russian rule. The US did that in the last 100 years. Russia did.
IT'S STILL COLONIALISM EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T USE BOATS also as a lithuanian it's so nice to see a western (assuming? so sorry if i'm wrong) account speaking about russian propaganda in the us. feeling seen
He's from the UK so yes he is western. I'm glad that people in the west are finally starting to acknowledge the Soviet Union's oppression of many Slavic states. I blame the lack of acknowledgement of Soviet oppression on people like Noam Chomsky, who spent the majority of his life overemphasising the evils of western imperialism while hypocritically defending Russia's imperialism.
@@sobertillnoonOh, to live on Tim Pool's compound. That is the dream. Just skateboarding and hanging out with the bros. No girls allowed. Unwashed beanies everywhere.
@@cobra8888 not a problem with it, but this people will say something then do something that contradicts that, like what happened here, no problem making money, but don't be a sellout and at least have some dignity
@@fernandodecarlosmalcher7977 And that is the BIG issue. As a non-American, I noticed both sides do the same style you just criticized. I don’t believe either side is doing it from (freedom/love). All about money.
You know after someone brought up being on the brink of nuclear war and seeing this I was absolutely terrified that it was going to happen until I realised 2 things 1. Nobody actually wants that to happen and 2. If it didn't happen in the 84 it's most likely not going to happen now... I hope
@@JinStreams yeah if you compared tensions back then to now it's like comparing an active volcano to a microwave with a bit of tin foil stuck inside it
I kept waiting for a surprising revelation of some kind. At the end it hit me, it is surprisingly unsettling that more than a hadfull of people don't see all of this as plain and clear as the colour of the sky. As you say, the willfully ignorant. Be they cruel opportunistic grifters or useful idiots. They do the same harm. I would like to push back on the implication that arguing from emotion is wrong. As I am not a robot, I can't help but feel angered by those spreading hate and ignorance. It may lessen how effective I can be. I don't believe it makes my argument any less valid.
It would though if your argument came from some moral high ground and your emotions could hinder your vocabulary to simpler ones in line with that of a teenager. Not trying to offend you just sharing my experience. Unless you were facing a callous troll, have fun with him.
I didn't mean to suggest arguing from emotion is wrong - I said 'respond accordingly', not 'disregard'. Arguing from emotion is a perfectly valid form of speech, so long as the audience is aware of what that speech is & what it isn't.
@@cobra8888 I am aware of becoming less effective when emotional. Harder to maintain focus and be objective. Can't seem to just switch it off though. Trying to shame it back in only hurts myself in the long run.
@@PillarofGarbage Thanks. It is ironic that people who use the phrase "facts don't care about your feelings". Disregard and cherry pick, only using facts and statistics that confirm their emotional biases. Can't tell how many of them are aware that they are doing this.
@@saxonkrautz As a student of the human behavior the past 10 years, I can assure you, that neither side are aware of it. Because as humans, they think their "facts" are absolute and undisputed. The "fault" is on the other team. So the same person who uses "facts don't care about feelings" and "spreading love" will always fail those two mottos many times.
The Acolyte does suck, but because of bad writing, not the color or race of any of the actors hired to play FICTIONAL CHARACTERS in a SEPARATE GALAXY set in the DISTANT PAST.
What bugged me the most about the outrage on that show was just the sheer amount of it for a production that honestly didn't deserve that much attention. Twas mid, I don't even think it was terrible, had some fun watching it, but you're right, bad writing tanked that show. The sheer amount of media that would be called woke otherwise are never dubbed as such due to them being "good" or liked on too large a scale for them to be taken seriously for hating on it. But when they start calling that the line, that "woke" means bad and that if its not bad that means its not woke, that part pisses me off to no end
@@nachro2190 just some anti-woke brainrot, some call it 'Schrödingers woke.' Any piece of media or fictional work is either anti-woke or woke depending on if its successful/well liked or not. (Of course, when a blatently anti woke media such as mr bircham fails or captures the exact opposite audience then intended, it's quickly swept under the rug.) Balders gate: not woke because its a huge success despite the clear lgbt inclusion, characters and such. Concord: woke, because it failed. Its failures are definitely the race and genders of the characters and not...yknow, the fact that it was a 40$ less then subpar overwatch clone that brought nothing new to the franchise, was added into an already oversaturated market, had mediocre if not terrible character design, and supposedly had platform restrictions. Regardless, people who use the term 'woke' to criticize something should never be taken seriously. Its usually because they don't like that they have to share a space with people who aren't white or straight or a male.
Imagine if every time a movie or show with a bunch of straight white dude characters did poorly everyone became maliciously hysterical specifically over the cast being straight white dudes. We can all see that would be seriously unhinged, but somehow when it's the other way around people can't see it.
Hear, hear! As a longtime Star Wars fan, I am incredibly disappointed in what Disney has done with the franchise. And it's not about the skin colour of any actor or there being women (I am a woman myself!). These things aren't what most people are upset about. We're disappointed in the poor writing, poor overall quality, and poor understanding of the source material. It sucks that to find content criticising Disney for this you have to go through a lot of right-wing content creators and even the more moderate ones that I do follow still have some views I do not agree with.
An excerpt from a book I read titled Anarchism: from Bakunin to the Commons (translated from dutch): "The establishment know damn well what central privileges to defend and what tactical concessions they must make to maintain their power and authority." ... "We must try not to mistake our enemy. Plenty of what's been demanded by various dissidents, socialists, and anarchists in the past few centuries, which the establishement resisted back then, have been partially realized by now. These changes have mostly made the lives of the common people better and that's a good thing. However, as long as these changes are not institutionalized and, more importantly, become entrenched in the public's collective conscious, they can be easily reversed." The author brings this up in context of Femsoc (feminist socialism) and Eco Anarchism. While most of the quote seems a bit tangential, what the author (I think) is trying to say, is that at the end of the day, the struggle for the future of society is between the powerful elite and the oppressed majority. Out of a more egalitarian society, issues like women's rights and climate change can be adressed much more easily and definitively than bothering the people in power into throwing us a bone. Why do I bring this up: because this whole culture war bullshit is a distraction. Don't get me wrong, I try my best to be squarely on the side of inclusivity, but the fact that this is still the fight, while bigger, more systemic injustices go unadressed pisses me off. Effectlively, we're settling for less when the establishment gives a concession rather than dismantling itself. And while we're doing our best to beat back a seemingly never-ending flood of nazi rhetoric, we're blind to the fact that our bosses exploit us, the politicians who should represent us are in on the grift, cops and military are the executing branch of this oppression, and external threats are used to distract us from the injustice we face domestically. These misinformation campaigns are the establishment playing 4D chess with us. As long as we're at each other's throats, we won't lunge for theirs. Sorry for the vent, PoG. The video is very good; informative, yet able to keep my attention.
I saw your Grifterverse video days before the RT media things dropped. I immediately came back and subscribed. You are a true journalist with their finger on the pulse. I can't imagine getting a huge scoop on a story like that before it's even public knowledge. Seriously good work.
Yes, this is what I've been saying as well. They didn't dictate the content, just kinda tried to expand its reach. All of this is as 'Americans' as apple pie. I don't know if Russia's role had much influence? Because this would be here anyway, and would have its audience. Russia is exploiting these weaknesses, but they're not generating them.
Hi, Russian here. The piece of the puzzle that you're missing is that the Kremlin did not "like what these creators are doing and decide that it aligns with their interests", it's that the Kremlin ideology is molded by them watching these creators' content in the first place. The ideology of the Russian government is directly dictated by American far-right Republicans. The "LGBT propaganda" law was written by Evangelical politicians that were invited to the Duma for this purpose. The absolutely brutal anti-trans ban that i, currently a refugee, am a victim of, was written because of libs of tiktok and the like.
That's is why the far-right should be banned tbh. If you're responsible for creating anti-LGBT laws that imprison people overseas, then you should be censored.
I get what you're saying, but I'm pretty sure Russian politicians were against gay & trans people before watching Tim Pool or Tucker Carlson videos. Maybe they look to the American far right for better ways to express these ideas, but I don't think they're ideologically influenced by these lightweights; I think they consider them useful idiots.
И да наша церковь и без местных Пуритан была с приветом ещё со времен Царской России так что не надо выдумывать и приписывать теории заговоров на уровне Рен ТВ.
In the meantime Mark Hammil is a big time democrat and a staunch supporter of Ukraine. He is raising money to help Ukraine fund demining operations and create awareness. And Harisson Ford is a prominent environmentalist.
You do realize that “demining operations” means planting more mines in residential areas to allow Ukrainian civilians to blow themselves up on them, right?
the wildest part is that YT algorithm recommended the new Nerdrotic video next to this one, despite a couple of years of me clicking "Do not recommend channel"
Not in the way you think. The idea that Russia is fomenting disorder in the US to such a huge degree is ridiculous. That disorder is uniquely American and has been here for decades. Russiagate has been proven to be a hoax, for example. Mueller pooped the bed. Same old Cold War nonsense.
-4:26 Yeah im sorry but Soviet nostalgia is just as prominent among putins government. Imperial Russia and the Soviet Union are used interchangeably by the Russian gov in regards that Russia was a great power at that time
Right, but I’m sure you’d agree that Soviet nostalgia is grounded in the continuities between the Soviet era and the imperial era moreso than the changes?
@@PillarofGarbage I would just add that putins gov members would’ve all grown up in the Soviet Union and when the union fell, Russian politics along with Soviet nostalgia would blend far and far left ideas together. It’s why you have RT fund right-wing commentators but also platform left-wing commentators as well
@@guyguy7634 I don't think Russian politics blended far-right and far-left ideas, especially right after the collapse of the USSR, RT is just being opportunistic. Imo, their political alignment is whatever Kremlin says it should be
I gotta say, for people bitching about "pRoTeCtInG aMuRiCa", "cOmMuNiSm bAd" and "mAh fReDoM" they sure like the other side of the "cold war 2: electric boogaloo" -or rather dividing the people of the west and doing Russia's work for free. I mean, as a European (Greek) I find the whole deal ridiculous and the politicians around the globe disappointing, but that's besides the point (or maybe it is the point). Not that this knowledge will make most of *those* guys reexamine their media diet but thank you for the effort mister Pillar sir! Keep up the great work and take care!
Just going to slide in before the smarmy well actually's about how when the government does stuff it's communism - the Russian state was literally auctioned off. That's not an exaggeration, I mean it was actually literally auctioned off at the beginning of the current regime
The idea that these grifters are hired because they already put that style of content out doesn't surprise me. I was listening to an interview with a guy that used to put out similar content talking about how he and Tommy ten names were hired about the same time by another media company to keep pumping out content. The guy interviewed said he left after visiting a refugee camp and realising they really were just desperate people escaping persecution and hardship and not invading. He also said he doesn't think Tommy doesn't believe half the stuff he's saying. Just can't remember the name of the company at the minute that hired them both. You also have to wonder how GB news, a company losing millions a year can afford to pay Farage a £million a year? Where's the money coming from? I don't know I'm just asking questions.
I believe you might be recalling the American/Israeli "Middle East Forum" think tank. It was led by Daniel Pipes and described as "fomenting anti-Muslim sentiment." The group even admitted to funding rallies in Tommy's support and paying legal costs in his appeal against his mortgage fraud prison sentence.
If your still curious, the name escapes me but munecat did a video on GB news. Its along video and it has some comedy notes to it but she highlights how GB news is funded by saudi arabian oil money (expect to see more of this as climate change gets worse)
It's interesting that Bill Gates does a similar thing. I remember a while back there was some controversy about him funding Kurzgesagt videos that pushed messages he liked. It seems the new way to create propaganda is not to hire actors, but simply support the people who believe your message. It's also interesting to see the people stuck in the middle here. People like Tucker Carlson who sell the gift without buying it.
They all do this, it is called promoted opposition. Controlled opposition involves using an agent who is aware that they are promoting disinformation / manipulating narratives in some way, promoted opposition involves providing support to people who genuinely hold the beliefs they are espousing. I have seen one person suggest Candace Owens may be promoted opposition to make people who aren't fond of Israel seem crazy, given the fact that TH-cam somehow has not banned her videos. This is seems to me like a classic example of "promotion" rather than full on controlled opposition like you would see with feds on social media
He may be a rich d-head (there's no such thing as a "good billlionaire"), but Bill Gates is not part of a malevolent goverment invading its sovereign nation neighbors.
I think it's disingenuous to put Bill Gates, as much as I despise him, on the same level as RT here because of one simple question: Quo Vadis? RT's goal is destabilising political enemies of Russia. Do you believe it is Bill Gates' goal to destabilise his geopolitical enemies? Or is that more of a George Soros-kind of operation in your opinion? There may be some similarity in kind but such a gigantic difference in quality that a comparison is silly. I think the young people these days would now say: Go touch some grass.
I'm (unfortunately) russian and YES! I see american alt-right's talking points and I'm genuinely concerned. Because it's word for word the same drivel our government has been feeding us for the past, idk, 20 years. And look where we fucking are...
@@nightraven2975 I can totally see it being tough tbh. Imagine boasting some of the best films, art and literature in the world while simultaneously sporting the crappiest leaders since Ivan the 4th.
@@nightraven2975right? I fucking hate reading stuff like that. I absolutely detest my country of birth because of various factors that I won't get into, but I'd never admonish my heritage. Enough with the anti-Slavic dehumanization, and especially ethno-masochism
@@nightraven2975 a) racism means race, you're looking for the word nationalism or something similar. b) I'll refer to the fact the country I'm a citizen of can literally put me in jail for merely disagreeing with its politics (or for my sexuality) however I please. A chunk of the population is in serious danger every day (not everyone CAN leave) and another chunk are zombies who think bombing children is the "russian way" but suuure, aren't you proud of the literature.
@@simonriley4131 god for you, I guess? I don't care. I fucking hate this country and I'm not going to hold it back because someone loves our liiiiiterature. "People are dying, Kim"
I'm scared to be critical of those movies/series (and there is a lot to be critical about - including some of the DEI practices - if the movies weren't pretty bad those people wouldn't have an angle to attack) - because I'd be helping people who don't think minorities have a place on screen and in media. This just sucks how the alt-right drowns anything more center and appropriates whole discourse into "poeple of color / lgbt+ bad". No surprise they are funded by Russia - a scary amount of people are (including major political figures in alt-right movement here in the EU). RU is super aggressive and very good at sowing chaos - which is why it can't be ignored and dealth with as a normal country (at least until they go thorough some major reforms and shifts).
i am currently editing a little skit that i made on the origin of the grifterverse, characters include daily wire, CD & more. i'm just lazy & need to film one last scene of russia showing up to the meeting looking for tim pool... anyway keep up the good work!
It was blatant there was a dedicated campaign targeting any new Star Wars, MCU & X-Men, LotR, etc. for several years now by grifters. And 'more responsible' media outlet have been only too happy to release lazy clickbait articles about "fan outrage". I've been hitting 'Do not recommend channel' on all these and TH-cam just keeps filling my feed with them anyway if I try searching for news on any franchise. They need a permanent block button.
Then why have new project from the franchise you just mentioned been generally pretty bad?🤨 we don’t target things because their full of diverse representation, if we did that, the expanse, WHICH IS A PRETTY PHENOMENAL TV SHOW, would also be targeted, th-cam.com/video/RWtbI4t7cOc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NI1cWlksv82h9b54 hers prove that we don’t target all media with a diverse cast
I mean Star Wars has been bad/shallow for ten years, MCU which wasn't perfect to begin with declined in writing quality dramatically, cliche show after cliche show and then Rings of Power is trash. It's probably not a grift, it's their genuine opinion. That's fine if you enjoy it but I wouldn't get upset every time someone points out some bad writing. Writing at times is clearly fucking terrible, lazy and absurd narcissistic pandering, you're acting like it's Godfather Part 2 and should be universally loved, which I mean I think your standards for writing is somewhat lower which if you're young makes sense because that's all you know.
I once read a fantasy story where a characters says about another: "The only thing becoming a vampire changed about him was his diet". Bear in mind it was an old-school, monstrous, Nosferatu-like vampire. Says something about this situation.
Red Letter Media is a shining exception. They prefer to review slasher pics, but when they reviewed THE ACOLYTE, it was not at all about the "woke" elements and all about the failures in plot, character and structure.... which are the actual issues with the series.
I keep wondering; If you were a victim of a nefarious plot, wouldn't you want to return the money you were paid? Congratulations Vlad, you bought Tim Pool a skateboard park
There is a book called "The Road to Unfreedom". Maybe it is relevant, you will have to be a gown up and read it for yourself (audible version available and read by the author). It would be interesting to see the media landscape if Timothy Snyder was a household name.
Thank you, POG! This video lands right in the middle of the venn diagram of my interests: Star Wars, Politics, revealing online disinformation campaigns, and exposing the disingenuousness of the hateful, toxic "anti-woke" movement. On a related note, would you ever consider doing a series on great movies about politics that might be relevant to this conversation? A couple of examples I love are Wag The Dog and Bob Roberts
Something like that could definitely happen in the future - no plans immediately, though. I plan to do one more video on something semi-related to this & then leave chud-antifandom-grifter-wokeness topics alone for a while.
@@PillarofGarbage honestly, I totally understand taking a break. We are careening towards the US election, and that has every online sphere in the quadrenial state of madness. But make no mistake: I blame Put1n for The Rise of Skywalker; and if someone didn't already hate him for, you know, all the genocidal stuff, RoS really puts it over the line. No wonder Luke Skywalker is helping to purchase de-mining droids for Ukraine.
At this point Pilliar of Garbage is the only reliable news source I pay attention to. I hadn't even heard of this scandal until now, thank you for your work king.
Worat part is, the people dont question why russia is investing in 'their' ideas / still belive it despite knowing a foreign regime wants them to belive it
It's been almost a decade since I paid attention to them regularly, but back then their only appeal for any of the left was providing "America bad" red meat for contrarians.
@@Dasistrite of course. One side is entirely complacent while our counrty is being taken over by crooked cross enthusiasts, the other side is real, real excited about how easy getting away with high treason was they are talking about a sequel.
I'm curios if X (formally known as Twitter 😉) will label Dave Ruben and Tim Pool as state sponsored media now. NBC apparently counts so they definitely should
Ive hated how communities like Star Wars Theory and Mauler and Nerdrotic have made me not trust any engaement with certain fandoms. I love star wars, I woukd like to criticize disneys decisions justly. I would not like to just hate women and gays and blame them for a corporation not knowing how to write things.
@laverdadescatolica5 luckily these days small companies and even indie studios create quality content, unlike (((megacorps)))). And what, do you like, hmm... minors?
I mean Mauler and Nerdrotic make fair points. I don't know Theory, I think he's sort of a moron. I don't agree with Mauler or Nerdrotic all the time. They can be funny sometimes, I think it gets a bit carried away sometimes and cringe like the Star Wars funeral or some shows in general but I wouldn't characterize it as 'hating women and gays.' The issue arises when it turns into narcissistic pandering where you're better than everyone because you're a woman or gay. Oppression olympics is a game that everyone loses. It's easy for tribalism to turn into narcissism and if people are openly mocking it than it's a good thing. Narcissism is not a quality that should be encouraged.
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@@FelisImpurrator But you're already my little PoGchamp! Now c'mere.
@@FelisImpurrator this is in fact a patreon tier B-)
Funny irony, of course, being the laughable us government disinformation spewed in this video. It has every dumdun midwit trope of "foreign/russian influence" in it.
Ohh men the trustful ,,investigation" and all of the articles about them by the ,,trustful" media given as example really scream objectivity and honesty.
Didnt the investigation on the alleged interference result in some document unable to be read by the public accusing russia of meddling and it was so convenient for this accusation to come, around the same time Hilary's emails were leaked.
"No, the Kremlin didn't pay me to change my content into propaganda, they liked my propaganda so much already they just paid me to spread it" is certainly one of the defences ever.
right???
Yeah. That doesn't make them a victim, it makes them a tool.
@@ThatWolfArrow
Sounds useful.
@@ThatWolfArrow A dim tool, even.
"I was already making propaganda for free!"
i wish i got paid money by foreign governments for complaining that Teletubbies are woke
🤣🤣🤣
I don’t think we ever figured out what Teletubbies even WAS to smear it. Well, aside from nightmare fuel.
You can not get Russians to pay you to say " I am the bear " . This Teletubbies video traumatized billions of children and they now fear Russia more than ever .
I am old enough to remember the 'scum' newspaper having negative articles in the early 2000s about one of the Tellietubies having a purse. Seemingly haters are gonna hate for money no matter how inocuous the target, no matter what the eara.
@@gm2407 oh man I remember the news talking about it turning children against gender roles or whatever. This sort of thing is as old as the hills
Can someone victimize me by paying multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars to me?
🤣
To just do whatever it is you already do no less!
You laugh now, but you don't understand how much damage it does to your back to hold that much cash at once. The victimization is real!
You need to shill against someone first😂
I have been banned over less
Tim Pool fake slamming his desk in fake rage as he says "Ukraine is OUR enemy" is still one of the funniest things he's ever done, right up there with him explaining why he can't get a date with "Well I'm certainly not the problem".
I almost forgot about that! 😂 And he says it as a guy who buys into all the "high value" dating market stuff, where what has ever really mattered most is money and influence. The guy has money, the guy has a large audience... seems like there might be something about the person with the money and influence that just doesn't make the money and influence enough.
While constantly looking down at his script.
I'm pretty sure he's walked that back now and it's done a complete one eighty on that issue
@@christopherc8563 What a spineless little cretin. If he's going to be an authoritarian propagandist, at least have some pride in it for God's sake.
To be fair, having a second mouth under that beanie constantly shouting ‘the Democrats left Tulsi!’ must be challenging to explain to your date.
I used to watch Lauren Chen back in 2016. I fell into the “attractive woman regurgitates your right wing views to you” trap. So glad I grew up and changed unlike her
As an old sargon, nerdrotic, mauler, tim pool subscriber... respect to you for coming around. It was hard to admit to myself that I was dead wrong about so many things.
@@butHomeisNowhere___ Good on both of you. I took entirely too long to understand how garbage TYT has become so I sympathize 😅
It's really hard to change one's perspective, especially in this increasingly divided culture. My genuine congratulations to everyone who has found the wisdom amd inner strength to rise above the misinformation. That's real growth, real strength of character. You all give ME hope.
@@ryshow9118 Oh god, they've gotten pretty awful, haven't they
@@ryshow9118 Yeah; I unsubscribed to them when Bennie Carollo left. TYT was going in a weird direction at least a year before that, but that was probably the final straw for me.
Imagine you're a Russian soldier and when you get home you discover your rations were reduced greatly because the money that was supposed to go to your food ended up going to make New Norm.
Another case of how, in spite of the government’s posturing, this damn war is no good for the people of Russia. It’s no good for anyone at all, except for people far away who get to profit off of suffering.
Yeah this isnt the budget the average american state bud which wastes all of its budget on lgbtq crosswalks and immigrant subsedies.
And btw they get paid to do their job like you wouldnt believe it but a lot of volunteers have signed simply for the money that is being given out.
@@Silver_Prussian As if Russian oligarchs aren't just constantly stealing money from the state for their own purposes. The corruption is staggering. Russia makes Democrats look like kids stealing a chocolate bar from a convenience store.
@@Silver_PrussianOh look, there's one
@@OrgaNik_Music you mad cause I ruined the illusion you live in ?
This whole thing reminded me of Jon Stewart talking about Tucker Carlson who interviewed Putin. The conclusion was: "It’s because the old civilizational battle was communism versus capitalism - that’s what drove the world since World War II. Russia was the enemy then. But now they think the battle is woke versus un-woke. And in that fight, Putin is an ally to the right. He’s their friend."
Sure, but “woke vs. un-woke” is not a real category, know what I mean? I don’t see the problem with using tools who are eager to be used. Take Satanism for example: Any politically savvy person knows that Satanism (in America) is a publicity stunt to preserve separation of church and state. If the institutional leadership of the Satanic church want to use edgy teenagers as a means to an end, I think that is okay. They surely don’t have the time and energy to explain exactly why separation of church and state is a good thing to each tier of person. It is smarter to just LARP as an edge lord and capture many intellectual tiers of people with a similar temperament.
Russia is deploying the same strategy. Use a bunch of politically incoherent nerds to de-stabilize the Zionist United States. Remember: Bashar Al-Assad invited the Russian military into Syria to stop Israeli and U.S. expansion into the occupied Golan Heights. This does not mean that Russia can do no evil, however, I fail to see how using a bunch of internet tools to de-stabilize the United States is a bad thing.
What made it really funny was that the Tucker Carlson interview also showed that this was _clearly_ not the case. Tuck tried to bait Putin into attacking American leftism and Putin instead started going off on ancient claims on Poland and the brilliance of 19th century Russian philosophers. Putin doesn't know or care about woke versus un-woke and only cares about Russia and Russia as an extension of himself, he's nobody's friend but his own.
Only a truly stupid one can believe that Putin have any views and values. Man grew up in a time when the majority of population of the USSR had no views and values at all. By that time people are already knows that there won't be any promised socialist paradise and that propaganda is always lying. And to add to that, he was trained in the KGB. It's a perfect combination.
Also Tucker might've been on Russia's payroll as the indictment mentions an influencer going to a supermarkert in Russia.
@@jonathaneilbeck2263I caught that as well. He absolutely got his bag.
This is why I'm a big believer in the "nice opinion, did a youtuber give it to you?" motto. Don't copy any (and I mean ANY) TH-camr just because they seem cool. Yes, even this video, if there are things that seem weird or you don't understand, don't go "oh well I'm sure it's fine" no, look into it, make up your own mind. Be a person, have an opinion, don't parrot what "those TH-camrs" are saying, none of them, they're not you.
Also check your sources and how reliable they are. Many conservatives use "statistics" as argument points and its good to have a solid ground on your own sources.
If you truly are too lazy to do your own research, keep in mind that personal experiences are also valid so long as you remember thats what they are and keep an open mind that someone else can have a different experience. Acknowledge it as part of a truth and accept that you dont know everything about that specific point...and move on. 🤷🏾♂️ in an age of lazy people and false facts...i think personal accounts can help against the dumber moments
Well said. We have the liberty and freedom to be ourselves in this country, unlike places like russia, so think for yourselves!
Nothing wrong with using TH-cam or TH-camrs as a source. It's just another way to transmit information.
The problem is trusting (any) information sources blindly with absolute lack of source critique. Also related, argument from false authority fallacy.
@JayMaverick
It might be ok, as long as before endorsing them you correctly factcheck their claims. Which is easier if they leave sources in description. However all that is only possible if you are at least somewhat media literate, educated or at least have comprehension skills and reason. Some topics - especially historical, geopolitical and reality in other regions than your own can be as complicated as to be above the heads of majority of people in other regions - particulary US. There should be rating, credibiity and bias lists for all relevant youtubers for people not knowing their stuff.
@@JayMaverick
Yes! Read between the lines and look at the surrounding context!
"There's a functional misalignment between human psychology which evolved to learn and adopt beliefs based on a host of social factors and these algorithms which are designed simply to maximize engagement." This is excellent. Just about perfectly worded. I'll try to remember this, and if it ever comes up in conversation, I'll point to your channel.
Glad it resonated with you! The precise wording is mine, but the article I'm drawing from there is a research review by William Brady for The Conversation. It's also linked in the description, of course, but here it is directly:
theconversation.com/social-media-algorithms-warp-how-people-learn-from-each-other-research-shows-211172
@@PillarofGarbageIt's odd thinking about this, personally, because I much prefer learning from concrete evidence and approaching any sort of social learning with a healthy amount of skepticism. There's a relevant video by Genetically Modified Skeptic somewhere that goes over how religions often exploit what's called "tribal empathy" (basically, preferential ingroup bias) to rope people in, and I think this may be broadly the same phenomenon or adjacent to it. As someone who was never able to feel anything remotely resembling that notion of ingroup identification... I find it morbidly fascinating, if unsettling, that individual identity can be co-opted in that way.
@@PillarofGarbage I love me another rabbit hole to tumble into via citation, thank you for link.
@@FelisImpurrator, the last sentence of your comment reeeeeally brought Fight Club to mind.
Dissolution, dismantling, and/or discarding of individual identity for in-group belonging (/secured spot within a fascist regime/organization)??
Morbidly fascinating, indeed.
@@mattpluzhnikov519 Yep, that's the exact phenomenon. Related to the BITE model of cult psychology too.
Man its funny how quickly little Dim Fool went into damage control. The feds must have him by his beanie.
He's goin to jail
@@Dexter037S4 Probably not. Most likely he did an embarrassing kick-flip on anyone he thought he could get a deal ratting on.
@@WoobooRidesAgain Likely this, conservatives don't hold friendships in high regard so he'll rat out everyone he can think of to save his ass.
Tim Tool
@laverdadescatolica5 I mean, he's an idiot who probably dug his own grave and who's lawyers would make Lionel Hutz look like a god.
The Tenet Media situation and the Grifterverse being connected is honestly the least surprising news of 2024. Another awesome video, dude.👏🏽 Keep up the great work.
Its nice to see the american alt-right collapse in on itself all at the same time, though.
In other news, water is wet etc.
The most surprising thing about this is that it got definitively uncovered and taken to court
Instead you pay money to Israel and Ukraine. You got a raw deal.
found your channel a couple of days ago and already gladly shared it with a friend of mine who occasionally watches stuff like the critical drinker. now he doesn't anymore. thanks a lot for your work
also this is for engagement
great to hear!
@@PillarofGarbageit's working!
@@PillarofGarbage When is your - Rings of power - video coming out? The grifters are really trying their best with that one!
@@Jaraxu I did one of those last year (more about the discourse than the show itself): th-cam.com/video/r5Cq7rKEvYw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CiO2A4SI9QMh3FdM
probably won't be following it up anytime soon, I'm pretty behind on the show
@@PillarofGarbage too bad, they are frothing at the mouth over season two.
Tim Pool: I'm a victim
Victims don't get paid millions of dollars Tim. That is the exact opposite of what happens to victims.
At best you were a willing "victim"
He was tricked into hating Ukraine?. Riiiiiight. such a victim.
It’s especially ironic considering how people like Tim CONSTANTLY complain about the “victimhood mentality”. Hilarious hypocrisy.
The indictment says he’s a victim so
@@PunkShockRock well then I wish they would "victimize" me
@@chriscortez2036 I've seen too much of the religious right exhibiting the same exact behavior to find any levity in it anymore, it's just... a tuesday, yk?
It's funny how we used to think that Russia constantly being the villains in media was dated, yet today, Russia itself seems to actively want to prove them right!
The real issue of course is the kleptocracy at the top. Smart Russians ran away already.
The actual villains in this are far-right republicans
The real villians are the 1% and the capatlist system that enables this behaviour. The US interferes with the elections of other countries constantly, but when it happens to it's own citizens somehow it's a problem
All sewers lead to Moscow.
The idea that American conservatives are pro-Russia now is strange to a GenXer who grew up in the 80's and 90's.
One of my favourite things to come out of this is Glenn Greenwald getting all mad like “how DARE you suggest I get paid to spread Kremlin propaganda? I do that shit for free!”
"I have a much higher asking price."
Oh, what are some examples of Russian propaganda he is spreading?
@@davea136 Whatever it is he did that made russians want to pay him to continue?
Glen greenwald isn't the same as those other guys. I can't stand Tim pool, or Reubens, and I dislike Chen enough that I know next to nothing about her after watching like half a video years ago.
I watch the daily show regularly, and support trans people. For context.
Glen greenwald believes america helped make the war happen based on how they acted before the war. I've looked at all that stuff too and also believe america absolutely wanted the war.
They get to fight their second biggest geopolitical enemy without risking a single American life.
They fought a war in Iraq over literally nothing twenty years earlier. Hundreds of thousands dead.
One Democrat spoke in congress against the war.
Don't just immediately believe people willing to drone strike kids, even if they are better than people who would do that, and try to steal an election, twice.
The idea that both sides are equally bad is as absurd as the idea that one side being worse makes the other good. She's just better.
Russians want destabilization, and highlighting people who are honestly pointing out America's bs also accomplishes that, like getting pepple like Tim to say ridiculous stuff does.
As does getting the left to be more insulting and aggressive with people on the right.
They're not making friends with right wingers, they're tricking them into ruining their own country.
@@Hat_With_A_Hat_On lmao he’s is completely the same in terms of constantly spouting shit that supports Russia. He’s in this exact same sphere, along with a bunch of other fake left wing people
Are you saying these free thinkers and independent journalists didn't do a background check by using google?
I am shocked.
Dave Rubin did😂
Wouldn't want to be among the googledebunkers!
@@EtherealDoomedthis whole situation is driving me googledebunkers
seeing googledebunkers here makes me feel unusually happy
This comment is mostly to feed the algorithm, but I wanna offer a small piece of wisdom that'll hopefully make things seem less hopeless (see what I did there?):
Back when the printing press was first invented hundreds of years ago, there were people convinced it would bring about the end of civilization. It caused chaos and upheaval like never before (to offer a bit of a lazy example, look at the printing press' role in the protestant reformation). Nowadays mass printing is a benign fact of life, it's almost dated given how digital everything is. Massive advances in any kind of technology, but especially availability of information, causes chaos as we try to adapt to it. Our parents and grandparents lived in the "fuck around" era, and we now have to live in the "find out" era when it comes to all of this mass information and technology. What comes after it is the "now we know" era. Humanity has endured and adapted countless times before, and we will again. History repeats itself way too often, but each time it does, the world ends up a little bit better than before.
Stay strong, fight our corporate and media overlords at every opportunity you can find, and we will all make it through this together.
You'd think Russia would be better at hiding their tracks then some random people on the internet, but you'd be oh so wrong
They don't really need to. The people that care are already not engaging with their output. The people that listen don't care.
@@biscuit715 I mean in more of a legal sense. If they were more careful, they might not have been caught.
The Russian State is nowhere near as smart or competent as we like to think.
Moscow doesn’t care that much. They don’t have to. Their Soviet counterparts at the KGB took a lot more care in subterfuge but that’s because they had to (being “The” enemy kind of forced their hand).
Having a lot more sympathizers in the US than in previous decades has made their job easier.
If their propaganda efforts were more closely scrutinized in the public eye, you’d see a lot more degrees of separation between the Kremlin and its mouth pieces.
In Soviet Russia, breadcrumbs leave you.
Thank you so much for taking the psychic damage to make this an accessible and comprehensible narrative. You made it look easy. There's no way it was easy. Excellent video. Interesting times. - N
Means a lot coming from you, thank you 🙏
(And you guys’ latest video will stick with me for years, amazing work there yourselves)
Damn, I do love seeing y'all awesome creators supporting each other.
Great endorsment from you, lovely people. While the opposite of the confusing political spectrum will likely dismiss you just for the chanell's title, you still have a job cut out of deradicalising your own extreme extreme and radicalised far-end, especially the echochamber led by likes of Hassan or Bad Empanada. They along with their fans and many more have been fooled too, and i have no idea what can we do about it. Coming from a guy born in USSR, if they don't believe me, who would they?
We've reached the logical conclusion of the thought terminating "but muh free speech!" argument. Good on pointing out how algorithms are so central to maximizing their reach too.
Also never stop putting screen grabs from the Griftaverse in please. One of my favorite games is trying to find Mauler and going "Oop, there he issss!" Like Alt Right "Where's Waldo."
That's actually a really good point. How could the creators be victimized when their content didn't change in any way? Nobody's opinion was bought, nobody was paid to make propaganda. Right?
They took creative control of some of their platforms so that they could post directly to them.They made them post certain things like spreading Tucker.Carlson's supermarket visit that some of them didn't want to do
The people the creators were working with knew. The two between the russians n the creators, They were working for the russians. Referred to them as such
This is Comrade Dim Fool. You are now our biggest ENEMY!!!
@@christopherc8563 right, but the claim by the podcasters is that they _weren’t_ being directed by “Gregoriann” or Tenet Media, that they never changed their content in return for funding or at the direction of the funders. So I think it’s a good question: if they still had editorial independence and said/posted exactly what they sincerely believed, in what way are they a victim of the content-influence scheme? They got money and retained autonomy. A possible answer is “reputational harm”. But that comes from the scheme being publicized, not from the scheme.
Or, the podcasters could say that in fact their content _was_ distorted by the funding or by requests from the funders, which would make them clearly victims (if they didn’t realize it at the time, or realized it but for some reason couldn’t resist) or collaborators (if they did and decided it was ok). But would require admitting they will sell their words, and not just for clearly identified ads, and/or admitting that what they said was and is untrue.
@natbarmore They didn't change any of their content, But they allowed them the post stuff he normally wouldn't have. They don't need to tell them to change their content.In these situations, people self.Censor because of the power dynamic. Just like the new york times doesn't need to tell writers to not write about leftists favorably
@natbarmore The people were telling them what they wanted them to post and not post.So I don't know how much editorial power The creator has had. Some of them did not want to post the grocery store video in russia but were made to
That doesn't sound like independence Or having full editorial control does it? So I believe anything that they say? They are either idiots or traitors.
Sorry , if I think the fact that they are Intentionally playing dumb to cover for them being traitors is worse. The fact that their defense is that they are fucking stupid plays into the fact that no one should listen to these people about anything.
But it's a lie that they had independence and full control. It's in the court documents legal eagle went over if you wanna check it out
Why are so many canadians involved in right wing American politics anyway?
They make too much money not to
Canada isn’t sending their best
Because everything the US does leaks up north and canadian conservatives are happy to take american republican talking points and use them here.
Also American news saturates Canadian news. There's no fucking escape from it.
And uh....Canada is really just the little brother to America that tags along with everything
Bigger audience, I guess. We get idiots like Farage over here who try to make it big stateside as well.
Thank goodness, you maintained the element of surprise by blurring the images of those content creators at the beginning… I would have never guessed in 1 million years that the short white smudgy blob wearing a beanie was going to be Tim Pool lol
EDIT: Tim Pool was auto corrected to Temple
I love the "US bad therefore Russia good also cuz socialism".
Yeah, apart from the fact that Russia isn't the USSR, the USSR itself was an imperialistic state.
Sure it applied socialist policies but... Yeah, it was also a totalitarian militaristic regime with a lower labor class and an upper class made of bureaucrats, military officers, big owners of things "tasked by the state" and -of course- government officials.
In no point in time Russia stopped being imperialistic and militaristic. Never, ever, not once.
You would think that more of these anti America leftists might pay a bit more attention to how people on the far right are saying the exact same things about Russia as they are.
It's like everyone forgot the Iraq war.
No, not the Bush one.
The Soviet one. That lasted 10 years. That lead to the rise of the Talibans when they left.
@@mondodimotori But even without going that far, its own internal politics weren't at all "a socialist state". It was 100% separated into classes. And it was militaristic within its own borders as well, as both Russia and the USSR oppressed ethinical and religious minorities. Let alone the fact that the URSS CONQUERED PARTS OF EASTERN EUROPE.
I am honestly dumbfounded by how these people can ignore the reality of countries like Ukraine (just to name a relevant one now) or Romania were forced under the Russian rule. The US did that in the last 100 years. Russia did.
Afghanistan*
But yes. @@mondodimotori
“It’s still colonialism even if they didn’t use boats” 🙌🙌🙌
Keep sending your tax dollars to Israel!
@@themostbestwizard every time I read one of these comments I donate myself some more.
@@Kaiyanwang82 I'm sure that's true. Here's another comment. You know what you have to do 😁
@@themostbestwizard Your pager is ringing bro
IT'S STILL COLONIALISM EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T USE BOATS
also as a lithuanian it's so nice to see a western (assuming? so sorry if i'm wrong) account speaking about russian propaganda in the us. feeling seen
He's from the UK so yes he is western. I'm glad that people in the west are finally starting to acknowledge the Soviet Union's oppression of many Slavic states. I blame the lack of acknowledgement of Soviet oppression on people like Noam Chomsky, who spent the majority of his life overemphasising the evils of western imperialism while hypocritically defending Russia's imperialism.
Did Tim ever explain why Ukraine is our number one enemy ever? I miss the plywood.
Because Ukraine invading Russia was going to trigger Russia to nuke us. Nevermind the fact that would make Russia the enemy and not Ukraine...
"Because Civil World War 3 is coming/here/not here/a real possibility/not saying we're at war/we're at war-make no mistake, my friends!"
@@scockery that's very convincing. How do I give you all my money and move to your compound?
@@sobertillnoonOh, to live on Tim Pool's compound. That is the dream.
Just skateboarding and hanging out with the bros. No girls allowed. Unwashed beanies everywhere.
@@OrgaNik_Music 😂
So, is anyone else thinking of the term “useful idiot”?!
goes to show how this people are hypocrites, they don't really care that much about what they say, they just want to make money
Isn’t making money the endgame for everyone? Including this channel?
@@cobra8888 not a problem with it, but this people will say something then do something that contradicts that, like what happened here, no problem making money, but don't be a sellout and at least have some dignity
@@fernandodecarlosmalcher7977 And that is the BIG issue. As a non-American, I noticed both sides do the same style you just criticized. I don’t believe either side is doing it from (freedom/love). All about money.
Woke bad. That’ll be 1,278,969 US dollars.
Support Israel and the Ukraine!
You know after someone brought up being on the brink of nuclear war and seeing this I was absolutely terrified that it was going to happen until I realised 2 things 1. Nobody actually wants that to happen and 2. If it didn't happen in the 84 it's most likely not going to happen now... I hope
Yeah, the Cuban missile crisis was the closest we ever got to nuclear war, and it's going to be hard to get closer than that
@@JinStreams yeah if you compared tensions back then to now it's like comparing an active volcano to a microwave with a bit of tin foil stuck inside it
I mean... Russia didn't nuke a country without nukes that invaded it's territory... Lmfao
And they're supposed to nuke other nuclear power?
This video is going to age very nicely in the next coming months
I kept waiting for a surprising revelation of some kind. At the end it hit me, it is surprisingly unsettling that more than a hadfull of people don't see all of this as plain and clear as the colour of the sky. As you say, the willfully ignorant. Be they cruel opportunistic grifters or useful idiots. They do the same harm.
I would like to push back on the implication that arguing from emotion is wrong. As I am not a robot, I can't help but feel angered by those spreading hate and ignorance. It may lessen how effective I can be. I don't believe it makes my argument any less valid.
It would though if your argument came from some moral high ground and your emotions could hinder your vocabulary to simpler ones in line with that of a teenager. Not trying to offend you just sharing my experience. Unless you were facing a callous troll, have fun with him.
I didn't mean to suggest arguing from emotion is wrong - I said 'respond accordingly', not 'disregard'. Arguing from emotion is a perfectly valid form of speech, so long as the audience is aware of what that speech is & what it isn't.
@@cobra8888 I am aware of becoming less effective when emotional. Harder to maintain focus and be objective. Can't seem to just switch it off though. Trying to shame it back in only hurts myself in the long run.
@@PillarofGarbage Thanks. It is ironic that people who use the phrase "facts don't care about your feelings". Disregard and cherry pick, only using facts and statistics that confirm their emotional biases. Can't tell how many of them are aware that they are doing this.
@@saxonkrautz As a student of the human behavior the past 10 years, I can assure you, that neither side are aware of it. Because as humans, they think their "facts" are absolute and undisputed. The "fault" is on the other team. So the same person who uses "facts don't care about feelings" and "spreading love" will always fail those two mottos many times.
"I'll be there no matter what"
Lmao not mbappe
The Acolyte does suck, but because of bad writing, not the color or race of any of the actors hired to play FICTIONAL CHARACTERS in a SEPARATE GALAXY set in the DISTANT PAST.
What bugged me the most about the outrage on that show was just the sheer amount of it for a production that honestly didn't deserve that much attention. Twas mid, I don't even think it was terrible, had some fun watching it, but you're right, bad writing tanked that show. The sheer amount of media that would be called woke otherwise are never dubbed as such due to them being "good" or liked on too large a scale for them to be taken seriously for hating on it. But when they start calling that the line, that "woke" means bad and that if its not bad that means its not woke, that part pisses me off to no end
@@nachro2190 just some anti-woke brainrot, some call it 'Schrödingers woke.' Any piece of media or fictional work is either anti-woke or woke depending on if its successful/well liked or not. (Of course, when a blatently anti woke media such as mr bircham fails or captures the exact opposite audience then intended, it's quickly swept under the rug.)
Balders gate: not woke because its a huge success despite the clear lgbt inclusion, characters and such.
Concord: woke, because it failed. Its failures are definitely the race and genders of the characters and not...yknow, the fact that it was a 40$ less then subpar overwatch clone that brought nothing new to the franchise, was added into an already oversaturated market, had mediocre if not terrible character design, and supposedly had platform restrictions.
Regardless, people who use the term 'woke' to criticize something should never be taken seriously. Its usually because they don't like that they have to share a space with people who aren't white or straight or a male.
Imagine if every time a movie or show with a bunch of straight white dude characters did poorly everyone became maliciously hysterical specifically over the cast being straight white dudes. We can all see that would be seriously unhinged, but somehow when it's the other way around people can't see it.
Hear, hear! As a longtime Star Wars fan, I am incredibly disappointed in what Disney has done with the franchise. And it's not about the skin colour of any actor or there being women (I am a woman myself!). These things aren't what most people are upset about. We're disappointed in the poor writing, poor overall quality, and poor understanding of the source material.
It sucks that to find content criticising Disney for this you have to go through a lot of right-wing content creators and even the more moderate ones that I do follow still have some views I do not agree with.
We used to call these people Traitors.
Don't worry, we still call these people traitors.
A lot of the US loves traitors. See Confederate flags.
A very good breakdown of the Russian threat on social media. Don't stop calling out the propaganda. Slava Ukraini.
An excerpt from a book I read titled Anarchism: from Bakunin to the Commons (translated from dutch):
"The establishment know damn well what central privileges to defend and what tactical concessions they must make to maintain their power and authority."
...
"We must try not to mistake our enemy. Plenty of what's been demanded by various dissidents, socialists, and anarchists in the past few centuries, which the establishement resisted back then, have been partially realized by now. These changes have mostly made the lives of the common people better and that's a good thing. However, as long as these changes are not institutionalized and, more importantly, become entrenched in the public's collective conscious, they can be easily reversed."
The author brings this up in context of Femsoc (feminist socialism) and Eco Anarchism. While most of the quote seems a bit tangential, what the author (I think) is trying to say, is that at the end of the day, the struggle for the future of society is between the powerful elite and the oppressed majority. Out of a more egalitarian society, issues like women's rights and climate change can be adressed much more easily and definitively than bothering the people in power into throwing us a bone.
Why do I bring this up: because this whole culture war bullshit is a distraction. Don't get me wrong, I try my best to be squarely on the side of inclusivity, but the fact that this is still the fight, while bigger, more systemic injustices go unadressed pisses me off. Effectlively, we're settling for less when the establishment gives a concession rather than dismantling itself.
And while we're doing our best to beat back a seemingly never-ending flood of nazi rhetoric, we're blind to the fact that our bosses exploit us, the politicians who should represent us are in on the grift, cops and military are the executing branch of this oppression, and external threats are used to distract us from the injustice we face domestically.
These misinformation campaigns are the establishment playing 4D chess with us. As long as we're at each other's throats, we won't lunge for theirs.
Sorry for the vent, PoG. The video is very good; informative, yet able to keep my attention.
This is for engagement.
I’m engaging with your engagement!
Based
This is also for engagement
Picard: "Engage"
Same
For victims, they made a lot of money.
Ruben goes for the money.
Lauren Chen was under the employ of Blaze TV a subsidiary of Blaze Media (Glenn Beck,Tomi Lauren) and Turning Point USA. (Charlie Kirk, Dave Rubin)
Excellent work. Good job drawing the connections and justifying making them.
appreciate it 🙏
@@PillarofGarbage what are your thoughts on israel btw
I saw your Grifterverse video days before the RT media things dropped. I immediately came back and subscribed. You are a true journalist with their finger on the pulse. I can't imagine getting a huge scoop on a story like that before it's even public knowledge. Seriously good work.
I’m tired of earth. I’m tired of these people.
Dave Ruben switch up was always so sus. But much like him, I am waiting for Jimmy Dore to be outted as well in time.
Hahaha, oh yeah, Jimmy Dore being next would be hilarious.
Been waiting for that clown for years now.
Yes, this is what I've been saying as well. They didn't dictate the content, just kinda tried to expand its reach. All of this is as 'Americans' as apple pie. I don't know if Russia's role had much influence? Because this would be here anyway, and would have its audience. Russia is exploiting these weaknesses, but they're not generating them.
Hi, Russian here. The piece of the puzzle that you're missing is that the Kremlin did not "like what these creators are doing and decide that it aligns with their interests", it's that the Kremlin ideology is molded by them watching these creators' content in the first place. The ideology of the Russian government is directly dictated by American far-right Republicans. The "LGBT propaganda" law was written by Evangelical politicians that were invited to the Duma for this purpose. The absolutely brutal anti-trans ban that i, currently a refugee, am a victim of, was written because of libs of tiktok and the like.
That's is why the far-right should be banned tbh.
If you're responsible for creating anti-LGBT laws that imprison people overseas, then you should be censored.
I get what you're saying, but I'm pretty sure Russian politicians were against gay & trans people before watching Tim Pool or Tucker Carlson videos. Maybe they look to the American far right for better ways to express these ideas, but I don't think they're ideologically influenced by these lightweights; I think they consider them useful idiots.
So it's a snake eating is own tail ?
Да что ты черт побери такое несешь? 😂😂
И да наша церковь и без местных Пуритан была с приветом ещё со времен Царской России так что не надо выдумывать и приписывать теории заговоров на уровне Рен ТВ.
The fact that Lauren Chen hasn't been charged with any crimes yet is an outrage. She belongs in prison.
In the meantime Mark Hammil is a big time democrat and a staunch supporter of Ukraine. He is raising money to help Ukraine fund demining operations and create awareness.
And Harisson Ford is a prominent environmentalist.
he also supports ethnic cleansing
I don't think this is too incredibly relevant, but this is a nice bit of knowledge to have.
You do realize that “demining operations” means planting more mines in residential areas to allow Ukrainian civilians to blow themselves up on them, right?
Shadiversity is just going more and more insane every damn year, huh?
the wildest part is that YT algorithm recommended the new Nerdrotic video next to this one, despite a couple of years of me clicking "Do not recommend channel"
Historians of the future will have so much fun with this.
Not in the way you think. The idea that Russia is fomenting disorder in the US to such a huge degree is ridiculous. That disorder is uniquely American and has been here for decades. Russiagate has been proven to be a hoax, for example. Mueller pooped the bed. Same old Cold War nonsense.
-4:26 Yeah im sorry but Soviet nostalgia is just as prominent among putins government. Imperial Russia and the Soviet Union are used interchangeably by the Russian gov in regards that Russia was a great power at that time
Right, but I’m sure you’d agree that Soviet nostalgia is grounded in the continuities between the Soviet era and the imperial era moreso than the changes?
@@PillarofGarbage I would agree
@@PillarofGarbage I would just add that putins gov members would’ve all grown up in the Soviet Union and when the union fell, Russian politics along with Soviet nostalgia would blend far and far left ideas together. It’s why you have RT fund right-wing commentators but also platform left-wing commentators as well
@@PillarofGarbage It's the authoritarianism ye.
@@guyguy7634 I don't think Russian politics blended far-right and far-left ideas, especially right after the collapse of the USSR, RT is just being opportunistic. Imo, their political alignment is whatever Kremlin says it should be
When the Nerds have to become investigative journalists you know something somewhere has gone wrong! Amazing Vid dude!
10:40 Love that stock footage lol. They're so patriotic that they're using their biggest monitor to just show a looping gif of their flag lol
stock footage is so awesome sometimes
"Treason, like everything else, is very much a matter of habit."-John le Carre, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.
I gotta say, for people bitching about "pRoTeCtInG aMuRiCa", "cOmMuNiSm bAd" and "mAh fReDoM" they sure like the other side of the "cold war 2: electric boogaloo" -or rather dividing the people of the west and doing Russia's work for free.
I mean, as a European (Greek) I find the whole deal ridiculous and the politicians around the globe disappointing, but that's besides the point (or maybe it is the point).
Not that this knowledge will make most of *those* guys reexamine their media diet but thank you for the effort mister Pillar sir!
Keep up the great work and take care!
Maybe consider that Russia isn't communist either lmao
Καλός μαλάκας είσαι και εσύ.
Since Russia's not at all communist I don't see a contradiction in their beliefs
Just going to slide in before the smarmy well actually's about how when the government does stuff it's communism - the Russian state was literally auctioned off. That's not an exaggeration, I mean it was actually literally auctioned off at the beginning of the current regime
@@OleNesie propaganda is written by people who are mentally stuck in the Cold War.
The idea that these grifters are hired because they already put that style of content out doesn't surprise me. I was listening to an interview with a guy that used to put out similar content talking about how he and Tommy ten names were hired about the same time by another media company to keep pumping out content. The guy interviewed said he left after visiting a refugee camp and realising they really were just desperate people escaping persecution and hardship and not invading. He also said he doesn't think Tommy doesn't believe half the stuff he's saying. Just can't remember the name of the company at the minute that hired them both.
You also have to wonder how GB news, a company losing millions a year can afford to pay Farage a £million a year? Where's the money coming from? I don't know I'm just asking questions.
I believe you might be recalling the American/Israeli "Middle East Forum" think tank. It was led by Daniel Pipes and described as "fomenting anti-Muslim sentiment." The group even admitted to funding rallies in Tommy's support and paying legal costs in his appeal against his mortgage fraud prison sentence.
If your still curious, the name escapes me but munecat did a video on GB news. Its along video and it has some comedy notes to it but she highlights how GB news is funded by saudi arabian oil money (expect to see more of this as climate change gets worse)
It's interesting that Bill Gates does a similar thing. I remember a while back there was some controversy about him funding Kurzgesagt videos that pushed messages he liked. It seems the new way to create propaganda is not to hire actors, but simply support the people who believe your message. It's also interesting to see the people stuck in the middle here. People like Tucker Carlson who sell the gift without buying it.
They all do this, it is called promoted opposition. Controlled opposition involves using an agent who is aware that they are promoting disinformation / manipulating narratives in some way, promoted opposition involves providing support to people who genuinely hold the beliefs they are espousing. I have seen one person suggest Candace Owens may be promoted opposition to make people who aren't fond of Israel seem crazy, given the fact that TH-cam somehow has not banned her videos. This is seems to me like a classic example of "promotion" rather than full on controlled opposition like you would see with feds on social media
Thats how propaganda has always worked in the west. You can't sencor the stuff you don't like? Just fund all the other stuff!
He may be a rich d-head (there's no such thing as a "good billlionaire"), but Bill Gates is not part of a malevolent goverment invading its sovereign nation neighbors.
I think it's disingenuous to put Bill Gates, as much as I despise him, on the same level as RT here because of one simple question: Quo Vadis?
RT's goal is destabilising political enemies of Russia. Do you believe it is Bill Gates' goal to destabilise his geopolitical enemies? Or is that more of a George Soros-kind of operation in your opinion?
There may be some similarity in kind but such a gigantic difference in quality that a comparison is silly. I think the young people these days would now say: Go touch some grass.
@@TheSorrelYep, it's much more effective and more easily excused.
before I see this video:
Slava Ukraini
_Tim Pool has left the chat_
@@PillarofGarbagehe’s alr back peddling on Ukraine lol
As Long as they do not turn fascist after
save gaza
Hated how the leftist scum portrayed AZOV and other nationalistic groups as literal demons before the war. Were they payed by russia or israel?
Great job covering this man, most people didn't realize how much their opinions are being played with by these darn greedy grubby grifters
I'm (unfortunately) russian and YES! I see american alt-right's talking points and I'm genuinely concerned. Because it's word for word the same drivel our government has been feeding us for the past, idk, 20 years. And look where we fucking are...
You're unfortunately Russian?
That's some self racism going on here. Imagine some saying I'm unfortunately a black person??
@@nightraven2975 I can totally see it being tough tbh. Imagine boasting some of the best films, art and literature in the world while simultaneously sporting the crappiest leaders since Ivan the 4th.
@@nightraven2975right? I fucking hate reading stuff like that. I absolutely detest my country of birth because of various factors that I won't get into, but I'd never admonish my heritage. Enough with the anti-Slavic dehumanization, and especially ethno-masochism
@@nightraven2975 a) racism means race, you're looking for the word nationalism or something similar. b) I'll refer to the fact the country I'm a citizen of can literally put me in jail for merely disagreeing with its politics (or for my sexuality) however I please. A chunk of the population is in serious danger every day (not everyone CAN leave) and another chunk are zombies who think bombing children is the "russian way" but suuure, aren't you proud of the literature.
@@simonriley4131 god for you, I guess? I don't care. I fucking hate this country and I'm not going to hold it back because someone loves our liiiiiterature. "People are dying, Kim"
I'm scared to be critical of those movies/series (and there is a lot to be critical about - including some of the DEI practices - if the movies weren't pretty bad those people wouldn't have an angle to attack) - because I'd be helping people who don't think minorities have a place on screen and in media. This just sucks how the alt-right drowns anything more center and appropriates whole discourse into "poeple of color / lgbt+ bad".
No surprise they are funded by Russia - a scary amount of people are (including major political figures in alt-right movement here in the EU). RU is super aggressive and very good at sowing chaos - which is why it can't be ignored and dealth with as a normal country (at least until they go thorough some major reforms and shifts).
why do they have 10 people on the podcast together? That just sounds like a disaster
Comment to please the algorithm.
i am currently editing a little skit that i made on the origin of the grifterverse, characters include daily wire, CD & more. i'm just lazy & need to film one last scene of russia showing up to the meeting looking for tim pool... anyway keep up the good work!
such a well done video, commenting for the algorithm, because this needs to be seen by more people
Victims of receiving thousand of dollars.
It was blatant there was a dedicated campaign targeting any new Star Wars, MCU & X-Men, LotR, etc. for several years now by grifters. And 'more responsible' media outlet have been only too happy to release lazy clickbait articles about "fan outrage". I've been hitting 'Do not recommend channel' on all these and TH-cam just keeps filling my feed with them anyway if I try searching for news on any franchise. They need a permanent block button.
Its nice to have them self identify who to ignore
Then why have new project from the franchise you just mentioned been generally pretty bad?🤨 we don’t target things because their full of diverse representation, if we did that, the expanse, WHICH IS A PRETTY PHENOMENAL TV SHOW, would also be targeted, th-cam.com/video/RWtbI4t7cOc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NI1cWlksv82h9b54 hers prove that we don’t target all media with a diverse cast
I mean, if there are only bad news on theese franchises, what do you expect?
I mean Star Wars has been bad/shallow for ten years, MCU which wasn't perfect to begin with declined in writing quality dramatically, cliche show after cliche show and then Rings of Power is trash. It's probably not a grift, it's their genuine opinion. That's fine if you enjoy it but I wouldn't get upset every time someone points out some bad writing. Writing at times is clearly fucking terrible, lazy and absurd narcissistic pandering, you're acting like it's Godfather Part 2 and should be universally loved, which I mean I think your standards for writing is somewhat lower which if you're young makes sense because that's all you know.
Lauren Chen , The Half-Chinese Canadian who lives in America and repeats the talking points of Russia.
"Nah, it's not colonialism if it's not done by Western European White People who did it/originally did it by boat. Otherwise, it's imperialism." /joke
Imagine being paid hundreds of thousands (if not millions) to spread hatred, while also having the nerve to call yourself a "victim".
What hatred?
I once read a fantasy story where a characters says about another: "The only thing becoming a vampire changed about him was his diet".
Bear in mind it was an old-school, monstrous, Nosferatu-like vampire.
Says something about this situation.
Red Letter Media is a shining exception. They prefer to review slasher pics, but when they reviewed THE ACOLYTE, it was not at all about the "woke" elements and all about the failures in plot, character and structure.... which are the actual issues with the series.
RLM is one of only about 5 media criticism channels that actually have a clue what they're talking about, and I treasure every one of those channels.
Great job exposing these idiots. Your work is much appreciated!
I feel bad for laughing but the Community "race 'kerfuffle' " actually had me laugh out loud lmao
I hate it when I'm right...
Credit to the hard work of proving what my intuition could only begin to guess at.
Also probably pulling my viewing from YT soon. This doesn't happen on Nebula.
Thanks for bringing attention to this!
...What is the appropriate compensation for being the victim of being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, anyway?
I keep wondering; If you were a victim of a nefarious plot, wouldn't you want to return the money you were paid?
Congratulations Vlad, you bought Tim Pool a skateboard park
There is a book called "The Road to Unfreedom". Maybe it is relevant, you will have to be a gown up and read it for yourself (audible version available and read by the author). It would be interesting to see the media landscape if Timothy Snyder was a household name.
She was just telling the truth
Thank you, POG! This video lands right in the middle of the venn diagram of my interests: Star Wars, Politics, revealing online disinformation campaigns, and exposing the disingenuousness of the hateful, toxic "anti-woke" movement.
On a related note, would you ever consider doing a series on great movies about politics that might be relevant to this conversation? A couple of examples I love are Wag The Dog and Bob Roberts
Something like that could definitely happen in the future - no plans immediately, though. I plan to do one more video on something semi-related to this & then leave chud-antifandom-grifter-wokeness topics alone for a while.
@@PillarofGarbage honestly, I totally understand taking a break. We are careening towards the US election, and that has every online sphere in the quadrenial state of madness.
But make no mistake: I blame Put1n for The Rise of Skywalker; and if someone didn't already hate him for, you know, all the genocidal stuff, RoS really puts it over the line. No wonder Luke Skywalker is helping to purchase de-mining droids for Ukraine.
Who thought we'd miss someone talking about RT causing trouble meaning another creator at Rooster Teeth had been caught for being naughty.
This is the first video I seen in a while that has used the word jabroni the appropriate amount of times. Bravo
Timitri Poolvalev
Vlad-tim-ir Pool-tin
More like Dimitri Poolavov. Aka in Russian….Dim wit.
Тимофей Бассейнский
At this point Pilliar of Garbage is the only reliable news source I pay attention to. I hadn't even heard of this scandal until now, thank you for your work king.
The Russian Propaganda is coming from Inside the Grift
How the hell are all these rightoid grifters gonna go and say "Russia based" while also hating on China, seems like one huge oxymoron to me.
Now lets see how much money youtube is getting from Israel!
Worat part is, the people dont question why russia is investing in 'their' ideas / still belive it despite knowing a foreign regime wants them to belive it
If America Bad, doesn't [blank] Good is an arguament i've seen far too much
I sentence Tim Pool to life without a hat
The weird thing is, RT also put out left-wing (albeit edgy) content and I used to enjoy Redacted Tonight a lot.
It's been almost a decade since I paid attention to them regularly, but back then their only appeal for any of the left was providing "America bad" red meat for contrarians.
They were some of the news groups to cover occupy with any journalistic integrity, al-jazeera as well.
There you get it. Both sides are crooked.
@@Dasistrite of course. One side is entirely complacent while our counrty is being taken over by crooked cross enthusiasts, the other side is real, real excited about how easy getting away with high treason was they are talking about a sequel.
I'm curios if X (formally known as Twitter 😉) will label Dave Ruben and Tim Pool as state sponsored media now. NBC apparently counts so they definitely should
Ive hated how communities like Star Wars Theory and Mauler and Nerdrotic have made me not trust any engaement with certain fandoms. I love star wars, I woukd like to criticize disneys decisions justly. I would not like to just hate women and gays and blame them for a corporation not knowing how to write things.
@laverdadescatolica5 why would anyone “watch” cheesy propaganda crap? You're not trying hard enough, Disney employee.
@laverdadescatolica5 well, I'm not the least bit surprised.
@laverdadescatolica5 luckily these days small companies and even indie studios create quality content, unlike (((megacorps)))). And what, do you like, hmm... minors?
I mean Mauler and Nerdrotic make fair points. I don't know Theory, I think he's sort of a moron. I don't agree with Mauler or Nerdrotic all the time. They can be funny sometimes, I think it gets a bit carried away sometimes and cringe like the Star Wars funeral or some shows in general but I wouldn't characterize it as 'hating women and gays.' The issue arises when it turns into narcissistic pandering where you're better than everyone because you're a woman or gay. Oppression olympics is a game that everyone loses. It's easy for tribalism to turn into narcissism and if people are openly mocking it than it's a good thing. Narcissism is not a quality that should be encouraged.
Excellent Pogger of Goatbage video. Hopefully TH-cam will wake up and get their shit together before the DOJ comes for them too.
someone should make a supercut montage on the PoG mentions of highly enlightened 'centrist' i.e. mauler🤣
They scrub it because "Get woke go broke" can't ever be wrong X-Men 97 was one of the best shows Marvel has done and is arguably the best.