As a carpenter every day, thank you. Thank you for the effort and measurable stats that you provide us all. You guys are a great review resource that assists in purchasing a tool, done by carpenters for carpenters.
Hi have you ever had any angle grinder battery drop off? My new DeWalt angle grinder battery at work vibration causes battery to unlock and drop off? Great video
I haven't found anyone else with this level of commitment to fair (and often extensive) testing, transparency and impartiality. You're the one-stop shop for both discovering pros and cons of potential new tools, as well as gaining a more thorough understanding of the ones I already own. Keep it up you legends.
My only problem with this test is including price in the rating. If you have all of one type of tool then getting a battery and charger for another will greatly impact your price point. If you already have an eclectic mix of tools and don't mind switching it up, then price matters, but if you already own Milwaukee or Makita, then buying Dewalt will become more expensive. So the price shouldn't be a final factor, more just a matter of noting.
Great info though. I am in the process of converting all my dewalt to cordless. I started out with Makita 9.6 volt back in 1977 ish when a skill saw could make 2 cuts through a 2x 4 and that was about it. Amazing progress! Thanks
I have the Dewalt and Milwaukee and they're both totally fine and work great but I definitely like the feel of the milwaukee better so I tend to use it more often.
In reality it doesn't matter, had contractor's use my Ryobi multiple times when the DeWalt goes missing and surprised when they hear how much I paid and it still works. They keep using it in the shadows because contractor's don't use Ryobi. still can use the shop corded Hilti but want cordless. Had put a tracking device on it because all good expensive go missing.
It's as if you new what i was thinking. I researched grinders all weekend and today, I get the notification about this video! I'm in deep on the Dewalt 20V max line so it's a no-brainer for me! Thank you for such detailed reviews...best resource for tools online. Have a great week!
True! I almost bought a 110v Fein recently until I discovered it too, was made in China . I guess that is where we are with battery tools today. Hell even most of the corded tools, who am I kidding. I just had to replace my last USA manufactured 110v Bosch 1347A that finally died. I ended up buying the one, and only, new in box, German made, 4.5" Bosch left in the store! My 2nd choice was the Chinese Fein. It was not super powerful tho. The Hilti is chinesium too I checked. Oh well ,here's to the good old days before the chinese power tools 10 yrs ago!
There is a "Fein" number of people who use them (pun intended.) There are tool brands like fein potentially or specific types of tools like the dewalt flex volt grinder that always beat the competition. Sure its powerful and smooth... the price isn't so smooth at $499 depending on sourcing. Alot for one tool, one battery platform, availability, customer support etc.. etc...
As a steamfitter I've used a lot of grinders. Dewalt and Metabo are my favorites even in the cordless. But the last two jobs that I've been on have used the Milwaukee cordless grinders and they are garbage. We had about 8 of them on the job and after a month or two we were down to only 2 working grinders.
What are wrong with the milwaukee grinders? In project farm tests the milwaukee grinder destroyed the others. I know his tests aren't long term but. Did the milwaukees burn up??
@@marcowens3522 I was on a job were the company had bought 8 new grinders, I don't have the model number. By the end of the 2 week we only had 2 that would still work. There was only 2 of us welding and they weren't overworked at all.
@@jerrelCbanks Yes they were Fuel M18 grinders. Lately I have used some Milwaukee grinders that have held up over light daily use just fine and I hope that they continue to improve their products.
@@ConcordCarpenter could you put the winner up against metabos 600606421 WEPBA 17-150 Quick RT DS. Cause grinders fit into two categories small to zip something so insignificant an attachment on a drill will do the job or everything else. The metabo is barely more in weight than a 41/2" but is a 14.5amp so 9" grinders really aren't something I see continuing into the future very long.
That was an absolutely awesome head to head video fellas, thank you for doing it. I own both the Dewalt and the new Milwaukee, and both are great tools, and I also like the Dewalt a little better!!
Great video and I appreciate all the work put into it but I don't think tool-less lock nuts should really be considered an advantage. I have been doing metal working for over 15 years and almost never (unless a wheel gets jammed when cutting but doesn't happen often) need to use a spanner wrench to change wheels. Simply press the brake grab the wheel and turn the wheel itself. Put the new wheel on and do the same thing.
Great review and I specifically bought the Dewalt 6 tool combo kit to get the grinder. I did end up buying a couple of extra 6 ah batteries but it runs great. I love it. We are remodeling a house and it is great for cutting off nails and other tasks and so much easier to grab out of the kit for those jobs. I do have a corded grinder but it gets to rest up now because I have found nothing the Dewalt can't do for me so far. I would also recommend the battery-powered Dewalt skill saw. That thing is a beast with the 6 ah battery in it. We cut subflooring all day with one battery and no recharge. I got that in the same combo kit. I think we picked up the entire kit around Christmas for less than 500 bucks.
Kind of disappointed in Makita. They usually fair in the top 3. Oh well, probably still choose that platform. Thank you again for the best tool reviews.
Maybe you have done it but I'd be interested in a battery platform evaluation of brands like Hilti and Metabo relative to a more common brand like DeWalt. I know that's one advantage DeWalt and Milwaukee have is just the shear availability, even in rural areas.
huh? what are you talking about they have a bunch of worthless categories and give them equal weight to performance and speed....that tells what the tool can do not price and the other subjective BS values......obviously if it was just about what the tool could do then Metabo should have won. first in performance and second in runtime....enough said.
@@kenpoman1 Not really bs categories. Most people would take slightly slower cutting for a tool that is more comfortable to hold, doesn’t vibrate as much and is lighter. But most will just buy the tool based on their existing battery platform anyways.
The Tool reviews you guys do are second to none if someone were to rate tool reviewers you guys would win. The depth of the analysis line by line the information/length of video and the extra variables that you put on the table for us to look at top shelf guys !!
im 19 now i remember when cordless grinders were gutless and had less than 1/5 the runtime before their hours long recharge. boy technology sure moves fast
amateur reviewers take note. THIS is how to do a proper unbiased comparison. Straight to the point, accurate, and detailed. I now can make an informed purchase!
I bought one the around Thanksgiving for 125 -130? Bare tool.. Awesome grinder smooth super strong and cool running. Of course it's awkward because of the battery. I'm using 6 ah battery and it's great to get so much work from it with just that battery I have plenty other batteries but that 6 ah is seriously noticeable how much work you can get done before you need to swap in another battery. The coolness of the tool after using up the 6ah is like what the hell? NO noticeable heat buildup. I can see at least one more grinder like this so I no need to change the wheel whatever that maybe such as flap disc to grinder disc. So I can spend more time welding. The 60v wound be great for lots of hard digging and deep grinding for opening up cracks for weld repairs for my heavy equipment. At least that's what I'm thinking that 60v wound be best for. The 20 volt grinder is real nice for the lighter cutting and grinding. After seeing this review I'm very happy with this grinder! Hell it's the only grinder I've owned and first thing never put on the shroud! It really well thought out even that shroud is easy to adjust. And smooth I mean comfortable holding and using it for 15 to 30 minutes at a time. Ive got arthritis in my hands so I can get pretty miserable using tools that make me work longer and less efficiently. But what do I know. Have fun!
In my opinion Ryobi wins for best value. It takes 3rd place in performance and is half the price of most of the competition. Considering its price you would have expected it to be dead last in performance. That is impressive. Even though it doesn't perform the best in run time. It still tied with the Makita at 35 minutes and batteries for Ryobi are much more affordable.
Seriously, just add the $20 and get the Bosch. It's got way more features, it's lighter, more ergonomic, better control with variable speed + 3 settings, better runtime, battery level on the tool, better build quality (German made), better warranty (Ryobi won't honor the 3 years if used on PRO/contractor duties). It's surprising it only costs $20 more than the Ryobi and about the same as the Ridgid despite all the extras.
The only battery to use on the milwaukee is the 12A, the others are dead in a few minutes or they overheat. The 12a battery does not do that one you can go for a long time.
That's because the China Milwaukee 🇨🇳 uses a larger motor to compete with the American dewalt 60v flexvolt which it can't so its actually a useless grinder unless you have 12amp battery
My DEWALT 20 v has been put through some heavy use and it always produces the work without complaint. The key is to have good batteries. One on, one charging as with all battery tools. As an aside I also have a corded DW which I use mainly in the shop. It’s a beast and flattens welds in short order.
Been using a Milwaukee when the Fuel first came out. It rocks and I really work it. Your test ranked it in the middle so I would be dumbstruck to try the others as I’ve never faulted the Milwaukee. Good job and thanks from Land of Oz
I've used many cordless grinders and the only one that comes even close to a corded model is the DeWalt flexvolt. Surprisingly even the Milwaukee fuel comes up short with their grinder.
And as good as the flexvolt is, the run time isn't practical for it to be a replacement for a corded grinder. I really feel the technology isn't ready for cordless grinders just yet.
Ranking them without taking price into consideration Dewalt and Metabo tied for first and Milwaukee came in second. We use 6" grinders on the jobsite all day every day. I've not switched to cordless yet but I'm on the Milwaukee platform for everything else.
Not doubting the test results but with my use, batteries nor power has been questioned with my long (many years) usage of the Milwaukee grinder. Never faulted it (used a Makita cordless grinder prior to that and was extremely disappointed but that was when these first came out). My Milwaukee has done everything and more of what I demanded. Following this test when (if) it dies looks like my options will only improve. For what it’s worth, the toolless blade change and brake is what picked this for me.
About time for a head to head cordless grinder show down! I'm a milwaukee man and have went through numerous milwakee grinders brush and brushless and I'll tell you right now the milwaukee makes the worst grinder. Slip clutches are shit, auto load cutout is whit and trigger is shit. No word of a lie I hate my milwaukee grinders so much. The 18volt dewalt is better and it's like 10 years old.
In the end, we are gonna buy whatever battery platform we’re married to. Want to shaken things up? - someone needs to market universal aftermarket batteries (with adapters) so we can buy the best of any brand
This information is valuable especially for example those who maybe purchasing their first battery operated tool or thinking of switching platforms. Universal batteries is a good idea but not profitable for the brands. I'm on the DeWalt platform and know that 60v is backwards compatible with 20v and an adaptor can be purchased for 18v tools that run 20v or 60v batteries. Not sure about other brands.
There's only a few commercially available battery adapters. Just do a search for "power tool battery adapter" on amazon. Not every combination exists, but you could make your own if it doesn't exist via 3d printing or dismantling cheapo tools on a particular battery platform to salvage their battery connectors. You also have to use common sense. Some batteries have their protection circuits inside the battery, and some have it in the tool. Just don't run your tool battery all the way down if you're mixing batteries.
@@crispyworm2178 I'm just getting started and haven't bought into any brand yet but I'm not going DeWalt just because their batteries are so confusing. I'll probably wind up going with Makita or Milwaukee
@Mykel Hardin Exactly!. I just picked up the Ryobi minus the battery for $40. Sure, the Dewalt is better but at $128 on Amazon, minus the battery, it would have to be 3 times better than the Ryobi to justify the price. I already have the Ryobi batteries/chargers, but if I didn't, I could get the Ryobi Grinder, 2 batteries and a rapid charger for less than a "naked" Dewalt.
Excellent H2H video. I have the DEWALT 20v version and is excellent but recently got sucked into the DEWALT Flexvolt line and the Flexvolt grinder blows them all away and smokes my DEWALT and Milwaukee corded grinders away as well. I wasn’t going to use the Flexvolt system until the they came out with a Flexvolt 10” dual battery system tablesaw. The dumbest thing DEWALT has done in a while is to not design a 10” tablesaw around the double battery Flexvolt system the 10” dual battery and adapter system they came up with for the sliding miter saw! Such a bad miscalculation!!! I only got into the Flexvolt system because a friend loaned me his DEWALT Flexvolt worm like circsaw to try while he was on vacation and feel in love with it. He also had the DEWALT Flexvolt sliding mitersaw and loved it as well. In 3 days of framing a 4,000+ square foot house the first battery lasted 2 days and 7 1/2 hrs into the 3rd day. I used the 2nd battery for 20 minutes. Tried the first battery again and it had cooled enough to finish the last 10 minutes. I bought the worm drive like DeWalt Flexvolt saw that evening and bought the Flexvolt grinder a couple of weeks later. Can you post the link to the test on your website in the description? I didn’t see the link Thanks. Ron
The Bosch angle grinder you’re showing in the video with the screen on it is a different grinder then the model you have listed in the description. It appears to be a model that isn’t as common in the United States, only a few vendors online have it available it appears in the US.
I loves these kinds of comparison videos as they give me so much information on the tool I'm buying. It just irrates me that at the end of the day I always buy the same brand of tools I always get. Simply because I'm so deeply invested in their ecosystem.
I am completely terrified of these things, but that didn't stop me from buying one. I decided to go with the Dewalt because it "seemed" the safest with the e-brake feature. Haven't used it yet. I love power like the next tool junkie but with these things, safety should be at the top of all Grinder manufacturers list. I've seen some terrible accidents so I won't be using mine without a full suit of armor lol.
The Ridgid grinder does 13,000 rpm that's the only big boy cordless grinder around atm That's the same speed as a corded grinder, the rest are between 8,000 to 9,500 rpm
@@smyteyouall8256 its a shame it wasnt included in the tests.. maybe runtime might of suffered because of its higher power? it would of been nice to know how it compares, as its same size discs.
I do a lot of grinding in my trade. Dewalt grinders have always been rock solid as well as comfortable so when upgrading to cordless I naturally chose dewalt. Both the Xr 20v and flexvolt are great products. Love the head2heads. this was great to watch.
Travis Sheets so if you have both which do you recommend? I’m a plumber and use grinders for cast iron and masonry often. Is the flexvolt worth the extra or is it extra weight for nothing?
Cory C if it’s zip cutting through heavy steel or 2 handed grinding where you want to put some weight on it I would want the flexvolt it has much more power. If it’s light duty work for the most part the 20v should be plenty of grinder
I would honestly try to lean toward the Flexvolt regardless of the application if you could, they are seriously that good!! so much power and attachments for them
I would like for you to take a closer look at the ridgid cordless 4 1/2 grider, both the last generation & the latest generation as well. I think they were underrated in one way or another in this video!
Ridgid is by far the tops for any DIY'er, these tests and ratings are aimed at the construction pros who use these tools every day. It all comes down to the usage demand and how much you want to spend for a tool.
I can't take these new style of necked down, longer, two handed angle grinders....I have an m18 brushed grinder, as well as a Bosch 18v...I tried a Milwaukee fuel with the paddle switch for a while, didn't really care for it, my m18 has a paddle switch, but I prefer the lock on style of my Bosch....also, the bosch will stand up on it's battery, where the Milwaukee won't... personally I like my Bosch, but both are quite a bit smaller than the new longer style of all the grinders featured here....great review!!
Nice video kinda solidified what I had as a general opinion already. I do a wide variety of grinding both corded and cordless as a welder fabricator so seeing extensive tests like this really helps on future purchases and what other might want suggestions on. Alot of folks think that a grinder is a grinder but the proof is obviously different.
Nice review. But I could not believe that even though the Metabo was the most powerful, lasted longest ( practically on par with the Dewalt) and stayed way cooler than the rest - still was not even among the first 3 on the final rank..
@@paftaf If you like German grinders - try Fein! Old School German quality to the bone! I just bought their Cordless Brushless 125mm grinder - the CCG18-125BL, with a variable speed dial and a tool less wheel nut. Quite good, but only with batteries over 5.0Amp of course. The guard adjustment is a breeze as well. I am not using a grinder for serious work, just to cut here and there - so for me cordless is fine. Both Fein and Metabo are known for having top notch grinders.
I like a smooth running grinder that does t have guards rattling like hell when using it. One that does t get hot while under load and has good ergonomics and saftey features that dont fall off a couple weeks. l
I just found this channel today and I’m impressed with the level of detail and quality that these tests offer. That being said, if I had to critique the test at all I would say I wish there was a way to prevent the person testing the tool from seeing the brand while conducting the subjective tests. This is probably nitpicking at its finest but was something I thought of during the video that might introduce some unconscious bias because we all have brands that we gravitate towards. Other than that great vid! Thanks for the valuable info
I have a couple of the new makita grinders and your test reflect what i think of the tool. It feels good in the hand, gets hot, and the run time is disappointing. Four 24 inch porcelain cuts and a 6 amp battery is pooched. Even the X2 makita brushless cordless rear handle saw, Ive never made 211 crosscuts as they claim, not even half that, and I have a wack of brand new batterys. When these companies have there annual blow out event, giving away batteries and tools, I feel like Im at the paint store and their moving expired paint.
I don't know about other brands, but Bosch has a 12 Ah battery. That's some insane endurance and you probably want to take a break before that thing. And with a powerfull charger like the 16A charger, it's charged to 80% in 36 minutes again. But stuff like that is expensive, so probably not what most people are going to buy. 2-3 batteries and a not too slow charger are usualy the way to go unless you're far away from anywhere to charge the tool.
Top notch. I like having all the stats. This way a DIY guy like myself can better choose for ‘my’ needs where cutting time, number of cuts Is less of an issue. Gosh, I wish I had cordless tools when I built my house in the early 80’s. Then again, my dad built his with hand tools.
Awesome video. Was a little dissapointed with the 2980(Milwaukee)'s run-time but I appreciate the video nonetheless. Also, I'm a testing engineer and the conviction you guys have to removing human error from these tests is awesome. One of the best tool testing channels out there
Love your videos! In this video I do realize it's an older review; however, at the time Metabo actually had a 6" cutting version (slicer wheel) that is specifically designed for metal cutting in lieu 1 does all thar probably wouldn't be more fair to specifically target discipline w/ best tool for application. Personally owning a mechanical company that predominantly supports process piping in automotive manufacturing/pharmaceutical/food/beverage plants, we have years of data supporting the Metabo brand is far superior to other brands when metal fabrication is one of your core disciplines. Hilti is known for concrete; however, has tools to accommodate most disciplines. Metabo is known for metal working; however, like Hilti it accommodates most disciplines in their product line. In this i wouldnt put Metabo against Hilti's rotary hammers or core drills because if we are setting anchors for columns on a pipe rack crossing an egress, core drilling for a floor penetration, confirming there's no structural members inside concrete we use Hilti because thats who they are. Dewalt does make solid tools and personally I have many at home; however, Dewalt targets mostly commercial clients and more specifically wood working. Industrial brands such as Metabo's German made product line or Hilti's line shouldn't be compared to commercial/residential tools that in a year won't be functioning nor pass weekly/monthly safety audits nor are rarely seen in industrial environments. Again i do see value in this test for most consumers and truly appreciate what you/your team does. This feedback is only based on experience, year end numbers spent on small tools/consumables, site experiences of other contractors. All tools have a specific job they do well and most manufacturers have a discipline they target; therefore, I feel comparing tools that target all should be compared but not getting elite manufacturers and comparing their core discipline against the ones that target all markets, example Festool/Wood, Hilti/concrete, Metabo/metal when comparing Metabo to say Ryobi or Makita compare wood working. Just my opinion here. I would love to see a review based on manhours used after a year of cutting 4" sch 40 CS or 316 SS with same test. Thank you again and interesting perspective and great video as always!!
This channel is a "BOSS" when comparing tools !! Well done !! I'll go with the nr 2 winner -----> The Bosch Cordless Grinder !! I really like that " LED WORK LIGHT " feature !! Comes in very handy when its a bit dark @ ur working area.
ive had that 5" milwuakee fuel grinder for a few years now and i beat the tar out of it, pushing on it, running 9.0 batterys back to back to back through it dumping multiple batterys worth of heat into it without a break, taking the guard off and running 7" disks, bogging it down cutting asphalt shingles off, dropping it, binding disks up with out, banging it around, covered in welding spatter, used in the rain... never an issue stay away from milwuakees brushed tools though nothing but trouble from them, the grinder let the smoke out, the trigger gave up on the sawzall, multiple sets of brushes on one drill, chuck gone on the other drill
Thanks for the test on the grinders ; as a Ironworker, ya DeWalt seems to be the go to tool , we use the drills for the holes for post tensioning, cables, grinders for cutting the rebar, and snail that holds the ties together, we use the band saw actually for cutting the rebar on the job thanks!!
You probably need to remake this one. At least the Hercules brushless 4.5/5 inch wasn't out 4 years ago. With the extreme duty battery it is an extremely good grinder
I use grinders quite some for work, and have never had a need for the tool to tighten/loosen the locking nut. Just bring the nut until it stops by hand and continue tighten by gripping along the blade of the cutting disk. You do not really need crazy big amount of force there, they are self tighten. Only few times I needed a tool, if a thin cutting blade shatters and nothing left to grasp onto, or when undoing nut after ppl, who have used a tool to tighten the locking nut like the last one in their life. To release the blade, grab by the blade in a similar manner as for tightening and give it a light toss over the abdomen or a knee if it does not come off just of pulling on the disk. Once you get a feel of it, swapping disks takes just a few seconds on any grinder. But always have a guard installed. Ppl often do not see it as an issue or loose it and do not bother to look for it, but it is very important piece of metal on the tool.
Finally an unbiased channel that hasn't sold its soul to Techtronic industries. Metabo beating Milwaukee 😂😂. Xmas coming early to your channel 🎄🎁🎀. Milwaukee gonna send you a BIG box of goodies to get you on board😂
We get tools from every manufacturer, many advertise with us, but we never let any of that bias our reviews. Rob and I have been doing this a long time, integrity is everything.
@@toddfratzel3569 I understand the getting tools from every manufacturer, but shows that go " look at this unbelievably fantastic hole in this red drill kit box" and then criticise dewalt/Makita tools that could down a tower block without breaking a sweat is very disingenuous and disrespectful to the viewers. Keep up the food work tho. I really enjoy the way you put the tools through real life scenarios.
Old video, new to me (LOL)... Same excellent video quality (for content, besides the excellent picture). I will repeat myself saying that you are my most reliable resource of tool evaluation in the entire YT environment. Usually I do my own homework before making a purchase and this time I was looking into the DeWalt DSG 415B (not shown here, but an upgrade over the shown model). I was saying that I do my homework and I make my purchase and after that I look deeper into what people have to say about it... In this case (again) your findings overlapped perfectly with my choice. Stay safe and have a good one; cheers!
I have the old DeWalt brushed 20v grinder that I give to people I hate, and the DeWalt 60v which is my best friend. I put on a 7" diamond wheel and can cut through concrete block or 4" cast iron pipe with a metal cutting disk.
thanks. I figured after hours and hours and hours of looking at the " technical data" and the pictures of the grinders to scale that the brands...... of interest to me.... ranked very similarly to the results in your testing. its good a wonderful thing to have proofs. c:
Even though the brand whose battery platform I'm on didn't win, it's not a big enough concern for me to buy any of the brands that placed higher. The tool warranty is longer than most of the others, so that's another reason not to buy into another platform. This brand has so many grinders in their lineup that a choosing one comes down to personal preference as to the differences between them, mainly the switch type; slide vs paddle.
Just started a new trade and have been buying a lot of Milwaukee cordless tools. But I've been watching a lot of videos on grinder comparison cause that's probably gonna be my next purchase. And I'm kind of leaning towards a dewalt due to the issues I've heard with the Milwaukee. Even though I'll have to buy all new batteries too. This video will probably help a lot with my decision. Thanks for all the info!
Variable speed and pricing are my top deliverables in seeking out this versatile tool. I want to be able to cut fabric, wood and steel with the same tool. ✅💪🏽👌. GREAT AND EXTENSIVE REVIEW. It sounded like the host was literally salivating at the mouth with all the information he was dying to share. 😱👌
It's not surprising DeWalt won. Their grinder is impressive. I'd like to hear an assessment of the Ryobi and rigid with regard to how viable these tools are on the low end. I would imagine the rigid would do a decent job for a home shop for very little money.
I’m on DeWalt platform and have both the 20v BL grinder and the 60v flexvolt ....as good as the 20v one is ...the flexvolt grinder absolutely slaughters it for performance !!! downsides are the increased weight and size of the 60v... NONE of the other brands have an answer to Flexvolt ..
Steve Wheeler Steve I have both the 20v and the flexvolt Dewalt. The flexvolt version smokes the 20 volt version. The Flexvolt unit even beats my DEWALT and Milwaukee electric units with now problem. Ron
Thank you guys for your time and energy. you guys are thr best and really do a good job at demonstrating which is the over all best equipment in the market thank you very much .
You missed the rotating battery as a feature for Metabo. Whether they are 4 inch or 5 inch discs because it matters. Whether the switches can be locked in place, if they are the trigger or paddle type. But, you have done a great job. I would have missed many more things, if I was to do it. Thank you. 👍
I hope Milwaukee has gotten it together on their grinders. I had three failures in a row within 2 hours of usage. It would basically basically destroy the internal gearing. You could barely move the wheel by hand after it would fail and you'd hear the broken parts grinding away inside. Fortunately I was able to keep returning them and on the 4th one it's still kicking with about 100 hours on it. But I am not holding my breath on it. I would like to check out Makita's wireless offering, cause really when it comes to grinders damn near nothing beats the old rat tails from Makita. If they did as well with it as they did with their old school grinders I could justify having the other battery system. $2k in batteries though definitely makes any type of switch difficult.
Love these comparisons ! It's a pity you have not mentioned the new X-Lock system from Bosch ! Maybe next time ! Keep going guys, these comparisons are precious.
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As a carpenter every day, thank you. Thank you for the effort and measurable stats that you provide us all. You guys are a great review resource that assists in purchasing a tool, done by carpenters for carpenters.
What the fuck does a carpenter need an angle grinder for?
Wait,wait,wait a minute he was cutting rebar!! Hello Ironworkers “” for ironworkers !! Ha, ha, ha, lol 😂 !!
@@makattak88 carpenters often end up doing a lot of everything from what I saw when I worked as a laborer a few times years ago
@@abdomination fr, Im a framer and we use a lot of angle grinders to cut metal anything. When I do demo sometimes it’s actually really useful too.
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Such innovative jigs you guys make! Love these comparisons. Thank your entire team for ya!
I bet this test pissed off the Next-door neighbors. LOL
they all do - I donate tools to his cause - he's understanding
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Hi have you ever had any angle grinder battery drop off? My new DeWalt angle grinder battery at work vibration causes battery to unlock and drop off?
Great video
I haven't found anyone else with this level of commitment to fair (and often extensive) testing, transparency and impartiality. You're the one-stop shop for both discovering pros and cons of potential new tools, as well as gaining a more thorough understanding of the ones I already own. Keep it up you legends.
Project farm does great comparison videos also
@@dylantarrant8659 Agreed (David here). I don’t think I had discovered them at that point, but now I love project farm also.
"trust the pro"!!! best message ever.
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My only problem with this test is including price in the rating. If you have all of one type of tool then getting a battery and charger for another will greatly impact your price point. If you already have an eclectic mix of tools and don't mind switching it up, then price matters, but if you already own Milwaukee or Makita, then buying Dewalt will become more expensive. So the price shouldn't be a final factor, more just a matter of noting.
Great info though. I am in the process of converting all my dewalt to cordless. I started out with Makita 9.6 volt back in 1977 ish when a skill saw could make 2 cuts through a 2x 4 and that was about it. Amazing progress!
Thanks
I have the Dewalt and Milwaukee and they're both totally fine and work great but I definitely like the feel of the milwaukee better so I tend to use it more often.
Guy above said they're nothing but junk and at his job they had 8 of them and only have 2 now. What's your experience with them?
In reality it doesn't matter, had contractor's use my Ryobi multiple times when the DeWalt goes missing and surprised when they hear how much I paid and it still works. They keep using it in the shadows because contractor's don't use Ryobi. still can use the shop corded Hilti but want cordless. Had put a tracking device on it because all good expensive go missing.
Awesome Head to Head as Always!! Thanks for the mention and the in-depth coverage you give every comparison you do!
I professionally use the Dewalt. It's great! Low vibration, strong, thin. Very comfortable!
And ugly.
Bosch has x-lock mechanism grinders, which is probably the quickest one, but require a different type of blade-mount.
you can still use classic discs on the xlock machine
It's as if you new what i was thinking. I researched grinders all weekend and today, I get the notification about this video! I'm in deep on the Dewalt 20V max line so it's a no-brainer for me! Thank you for such detailed reviews...best resource for tools online. Have a great week!
We here love and trust your Head-To-Heads. Just a shame they take up so much of your time and we don't get to see more. Cheers guys, much appreciated
Its a shame you couldn't get hold of a Fein CCG 18-125 BL or BLPD. I have heard they are very smooth and powerful. Limited videos or reviews on them
True! I almost bought a 110v Fein recently until I discovered it too, was made in China . I guess that is where we are with battery tools today. Hell even most of the corded tools, who am I kidding. I just had to replace my last USA manufactured 110v Bosch 1347A that finally died. I ended up buying the one, and only, new in box, German made, 4.5" Bosch left in the store! My 2nd choice was the Chinese Fein. It was not super powerful tho. The Hilti is chinesium too I checked. Oh well ,here's to the good old days before the chinese power tools 10 yrs ago!
There is a "Fein" number of people who use them (pun intended.) There are tool brands like fein potentially or specific types of tools like the dewalt flex volt grinder that always beat the competition. Sure its powerful and smooth... the price isn't so smooth at $499 depending on sourcing. Alot for one tool, one battery platform, availability, customer support etc.. etc...
Metabo makes the smoothest and most powerful grinders in the world and its really not close.
As a steamfitter I've used a lot of grinders. Dewalt and Metabo are my favorites even in the cordless. But the last two jobs that I've been on have used the Milwaukee cordless grinders and they are garbage. We had about 8 of them on the job and after a month or two we were down to only 2 working grinders.
metabo and Bosch for me, absolutely beasts, made in Germany grinders
What are wrong with the milwaukee grinders? In project farm tests the milwaukee grinder destroyed the others. I know his tests aren't long term but. Did the milwaukees burn up??
@@marcowens3522 I was on a job were the company had bought 8 new grinders, I don't have the model number. By the end of the 2 week we only had 2 that would still work. There was only 2 of us welding and they weren't overworked at all.
@@jeremycurran4488 we're they fuel?
@@jerrelCbanks Yes they were Fuel M18 grinders. Lately I have used some Milwaukee grinders that have held up over light daily use just fine and I hope that they continue to improve their products.
These test are awesome! Thank you for putting in the work to record all the data and footage for us to see.
Best grinder is the one you have on you.
Daniel M better yet, the one that completes the task needing to be done
So your cellphone? and the Grindr App?
@@ViolentKisses87 oh no hahahahaah
Or the one I can actually afford cause that’s the best I can get
@@ConcordCarpenter could you put the winner up against metabos 600606421
WEPBA 17-150 Quick RT DS.
Cause grinders fit into two categories small to zip something so insignificant an attachment on a drill will do the job or everything else. The metabo is barely more in weight than a 41/2" but is a 14.5amp so 9" grinders really aren't something I see continuing into the future very long.
That was an absolutely awesome head to head video fellas, thank you for doing it. I own both the Dewalt and the new Milwaukee, and both are great tools, and I also like the Dewalt a little better!!
Great video and I appreciate all the work put into it but I don't think tool-less lock nuts should really be considered an advantage. I have been doing metal working for over 15 years and almost never (unless a wheel gets jammed when cutting but doesn't happen often) need to use a spanner wrench to change wheels. Simply press the brake grab the wheel and turn the wheel itself. Put the new wheel on and do the same thing.
Great review and I specifically bought the Dewalt 6 tool combo kit to get the grinder. I did end up buying a couple of extra 6 ah batteries but it runs great. I love it. We are remodeling a house and it is great for cutting off nails and other tasks and so much easier to grab out of the kit for those jobs. I do have a corded grinder but it gets to rest up now because I have found nothing the Dewalt can't do for me so far. I would also recommend the battery-powered Dewalt skill saw. That thing is a beast with the 6 ah battery in it. We cut subflooring all day with one battery and no recharge. I got that in the same combo kit. I think we picked up the entire kit around Christmas for less than 500 bucks.
Kind of disappointed in Makita. They usually fair in the top 3. Oh well, probably still choose that platform. Thank you again for the best tool reviews.
Maybe you have done it but I'd be interested in a battery platform evaluation of brands like Hilti and Metabo relative to a more common brand like DeWalt. I know that's one advantage DeWalt and Milwaukee have is just the shear availability, even in rural areas.
Ridiculous how accurate and unbias these tests were, absolutely all about what the tool can do. Perfect evaluation.
huh? what are you talking about they have a bunch of worthless categories and give them equal weight to performance and speed....that tells what the tool can do not price and the other subjective BS values......obviously if it was just about what the tool could do then Metabo should have won. first in performance and second in runtime....enough said.
@@kenpoman1 Not really bs categories. Most people would take slightly slower cutting for a tool that is more comfortable to hold, doesn’t vibrate as much and is lighter. But most will just buy the tool based on their existing battery platform anyways.
The Tool reviews you guys do are second to none if someone were to rate tool reviewers you guys would win. The depth of the analysis line by line the information/length of video and the extra variables that you put on the table for us to look at top shelf guys !!
im 19 now i remember when cordless grinders were gutless and had less than 1/5 the runtime before their hours long recharge. boy technology sure moves fast
Viper Strike sure does! I remember when I was 19! ;)
amateur reviewers take note. THIS is how to do a proper unbiased comparison. Straight to the point, accurate, and detailed. I now can make an informed purchase!
Îm glad to see the result, I’ve just bought a dewalt brushless 20v (im on dewalt plateform) before I saw this video!
It looks like it is in fact more efficient with the brush-less motor. Not just marketing BS
So what do you think of it? I'm considering going out and picking one up. Not sure if I want the 20v or 60v though.
I bought one the around Thanksgiving for 125 -130? Bare tool.. Awesome grinder smooth super strong and cool running. Of course it's awkward because of the battery. I'm using 6 ah battery and it's great to get so much work from it with just that battery I have plenty other batteries but that 6 ah is seriously noticeable how much work you can get done before you need to swap in another battery.
The coolness of the tool after using up the 6ah is like what the hell? NO noticeable heat buildup. I can see at least one more grinder like this so I no need to change the wheel whatever that maybe such as flap disc to grinder disc. So I can spend more time welding.
The 60v wound be great for lots of hard digging and deep grinding for opening up cracks for weld repairs for my heavy equipment. At least that's what I'm thinking that 60v wound be best for.
The 20 volt grinder is real nice for the lighter cutting and grinding. After seeing this review I'm very happy with this grinder!
Hell it's the only grinder I've owned and first thing never put on the shroud!
It really well thought out even that shroud is easy to adjust. And smooth I mean comfortable holding and using it for 15 to 30 minutes at a time. Ive got arthritis in my hands so I can get pretty miserable using tools that make me work longer and less efficiently. But what do I know. Have fun!
In my opinion Ryobi wins for best value.
It takes 3rd place in performance and is half the price of most of the competition. Considering its price you would have expected it to be dead last in performance. That is impressive. Even though it doesn't perform the best in run time. It still tied with the Makita at 35 minutes and batteries for Ryobi are much more affordable.
Seriously, just add the $20 and get the Bosch. It's got way more features, it's lighter, more ergonomic, better control with variable speed + 3 settings, better runtime, battery level on the tool, better build quality (German made), better warranty (Ryobi won't honor the 3 years if used on PRO/contractor duties). It's surprising it only costs $20 more than the Ryobi and about the same as the Ridgid despite all the extras.
The only battery to use on the milwaukee is the 12A, the others are dead in a few minutes or they overheat. The 12a battery does not do that one you can go for a long time.
That's because the China Milwaukee 🇨🇳 uses a larger motor to compete with the American dewalt 60v flexvolt which it can't so its actually a useless grinder unless you have 12amp battery
My DEWALT 20 v has been put through some heavy use and it always produces the work without complaint. The key is to have good batteries. One on, one charging as with all battery tools.
As an aside I also have a corded DW which I use mainly in the shop. It’s a beast and flattens welds in short order.
Been using a Milwaukee when the Fuel first came out. It rocks and I really work it. Your test ranked it in the middle so I would be dumbstruck to try the others as I’ve never faulted the Milwaukee.
Good job and thanks from Land of Oz
I've used many cordless grinders and the only one that comes even close to a corded model is the DeWalt flexvolt. Surprisingly even the Milwaukee fuel comes up short with their grinder.
And as good as the flexvolt is, the run time isn't practical for it to be a replacement for a corded grinder. I really feel the technology isn't ready for cordless grinders just yet.
Ranking them without taking price into consideration Dewalt and Metabo tied for first and Milwaukee came in second. We use 6" grinders on the jobsite all day every day. I've not switched to cordless yet but I'm on the Milwaukee platform for everything else.
Not doubting the test results but with my use, batteries nor power has been questioned with my long (many years) usage of the Milwaukee grinder. Never faulted it (used a Makita cordless grinder prior to that and was extremely disappointed but that was when these first came out).
My Milwaukee has done everything and more of what I demanded. Following this test when (if) it dies looks like my options will only improve. For what it’s worth, the toolless blade change and brake is what picked this for me.
About time for a head to head cordless grinder show down! I'm a milwaukee man and have went through numerous milwakee grinders brush and brushless and I'll tell you right now the milwaukee makes the worst grinder. Slip clutches are shit, auto load cutout is whit and trigger is shit. No word of a lie I hate my milwaukee grinders so much. The 18volt dewalt is better and it's like 10 years old.
In the end, we are gonna buy whatever battery platform we’re married to. Want to shaken things up? - someone needs to market universal aftermarket batteries (with adapters) so we can buy the best of any brand
This information is valuable especially for example those who maybe purchasing their first battery operated tool or thinking of switching platforms. Universal batteries is a good idea but not profitable for the brands. I'm on the DeWalt platform and know that 60v is backwards compatible with 20v and an adaptor can be purchased for 18v tools that run 20v or 60v batteries. Not sure about other brands.
There's only a few commercially available battery adapters. Just do a search for "power tool battery adapter" on amazon. Not every combination exists, but you could make your own if it doesn't exist via 3d printing or dismantling cheapo tools on a particular battery platform to salvage their battery connectors.
You also have to use common sense. Some batteries have their protection circuits inside the battery, and some have it in the tool. Just don't run your tool battery all the way down if you're mixing batteries.
@@crispyworm2178 I'm just getting started and haven't bought into any brand yet but I'm not going DeWalt just because their batteries are so confusing. I'll probably wind up going with Makita or Milwaukee
@Mykel Hardin just saw some for sale online between $10 - $20
@Mykel Hardin Exactly!. I just picked up the Ryobi minus the battery for $40. Sure, the Dewalt is better but at $128 on Amazon, minus the battery, it would have to be 3 times better than the Ryobi to justify the price. I already have the Ryobi batteries/chargers, but if I didn't, I could get the Ryobi Grinder, 2 batteries and a rapid charger for less than a "naked" Dewalt.
Excellent H2H video. I have the DEWALT 20v version and is excellent but recently got sucked into the DEWALT Flexvolt line and the Flexvolt grinder blows them all away and smokes my DEWALT and Milwaukee corded grinders away as well. I wasn’t going to use the Flexvolt system until the they came out with a Flexvolt 10” dual battery system tablesaw. The dumbest thing DEWALT has done in a while is to not design a 10” tablesaw around the double battery Flexvolt system the 10” dual battery and adapter system they came up with for the sliding miter saw! Such a bad miscalculation!!! I only got into the Flexvolt system because a friend loaned me his DEWALT Flexvolt worm like circsaw to try while he was on vacation and feel in love with it. He also had the DEWALT Flexvolt sliding mitersaw and loved it as well. In 3 days of framing a 4,000+ square foot house the first battery lasted 2 days and 7 1/2 hrs into the 3rd day. I used the 2nd battery for 20 minutes. Tried the first battery again and it had cooled enough to finish the last 10 minutes. I bought the worm drive like DeWalt Flexvolt saw that evening and bought the Flexvolt grinder a couple of weeks later.
Can you post the link to the test on your website in the description? I didn’t see the link
Thanks.
Ron
The Bosch angle grinder you’re showing in the video with the screen on it is a different grinder then the model you have listed in the description. It appears to be a model that isn’t as common in the United States, only a few vendors online have it available it appears in the US.
I loves these kinds of comparison videos as they give me so much information on the tool I'm buying. It just irrates me that at the end of the day I always buy the same brand of tools I always get. Simply because I'm so deeply invested in their ecosystem.
I love the Way these guys do the testing,
Completely impartial, honest and to the point,
Keep it up 👍🏻
Thanks
I was planning to get ridgid octane , I may go for Milwaukee now.
Excellent comparison review. Non-scientific, purely hands on, just what a skillsman needs! Keep it up boys
Flex would be a serious contender in the 5" category for this
I am completely terrified of these things, but that didn't stop me from buying one. I decided to go with the Dewalt because it "seemed" the safest with the e-brake feature. Haven't used it yet. I love power like the next tool junkie but with these things, safety should be at the top of all Grinder manufacturers list. I've seen some terrible accidents so I won't be using mine without a full suit of armor lol.
I love my dewalt 60v grinder, maybe you guys can do a video with the big boy grinders
No point, the other brands have nothing that can even come close to the Flexvolt grinder....
The Ridgid grinder does 13,000 rpm that's the only big boy cordless grinder around atm
That's the same speed as a corded grinder, the rest are between 8,000 to 9,500 rpm
@@stevewheeler5826 what about the multivolt?
@@smyteyouall8256 its a shame it wasnt included in the tests.. maybe runtime might of suffered because of its higher power? it would of been nice to know how it compares, as its same size discs.
I use my 12ah flex volt battery on my grinder, it last in tell lunch cutting 3x3 angle and bracing for bar joist
Is a 4.5inch and 5inch cordless angle grinder the same exact tool just a bigger guard?
I do a lot of grinding in my trade. Dewalt grinders have always been rock solid as well as comfortable so when upgrading to cordless I naturally chose dewalt. Both the Xr 20v and flexvolt are great products.
Love the head2heads. this was great to watch.
Travis Sheets so if you have both which do you recommend? I’m a plumber and use grinders for cast iron and masonry often. Is the flexvolt worth the extra or is it extra weight for nothing?
Cory C if it’s zip cutting through heavy steel or 2 handed grinding where you want to put some weight on it I would want the flexvolt it has much more power. If it’s light duty work for the most part the 20v should be plenty of grinder
Travis Sheets how is the battery life on the flexvolt? Does it compare to the xr 20v?
I would honestly try to lean toward the Flexvolt regardless of the application if you could, they are seriously that good!! so much power and attachments for them
I would like for you to take a closer look at the ridgid cordless 4 1/2 grider, both the last generation & the latest generation as well. I think they were underrated in one way or another in this video!
Ridgid is by far the tops for any DIY'er, these tests and ratings are aimed at the construction pros who use these tools every day. It all comes down to the usage demand and how much you want to spend for a tool.
I can't take these new style of necked down, longer, two handed angle grinders....I have an m18 brushed grinder, as well as a Bosch 18v...I tried a Milwaukee fuel with the paddle switch for a while, didn't really care for it, my m18 has a paddle switch, but I prefer the lock on style of my Bosch....also, the bosch will stand up on it's battery, where the Milwaukee won't... personally I like my Bosch, but both are quite a bit smaller than the new longer style of all the grinders featured here....great review!!
Nice video kinda solidified what I had as a general opinion already. I do a wide variety of grinding both corded and cordless as a welder fabricator so seeing extensive tests like this really helps on future purchases and what other might want suggestions on. Alot of folks think that a grinder is a grinder but the proof is obviously different.
Looks like something "project farm" would come up with for the testing apparatus
Yes, Rob (and team) are awesome.
Was looking for him to do a vid on it but found this guy lol project farm is a good TH-cam channel tho
Nice review. But I could not believe that even though the Metabo was the most powerful, lasted longest ( practically on par with the Dewalt) and stayed way cooler than the rest - still was not even among the first 3 on the final rank..
but it rank 7th on price so that's why (without price factor its 1st pair with Dewalt !!!!!)
I have corded metabo and Bosch. Amazing machines. Made in Germany. The shroud adjustment is much better than other brands.
@@paftaf If you like German grinders - try Fein! Old School German quality to the bone! I just bought their Cordless Brushless 125mm grinder - the CCG18-125BL, with a variable speed dial and a tool less wheel nut. Quite good, but only with batteries over 5.0Amp of course. The guard adjustment is a breeze as well. I am not using a grinder for serious work, just to cut here and there - so for me cordless is fine.
Both Fein and Metabo are known for having top notch grinders.
@@sizif717
Yes, Fein is amazing too. Some day I will buy their tools. For now, I have 5 angle grinders, so that’s enough for now...
This video need to be updated, there's been so much innovation in this space.
I like a smooth running grinder that does t have guards rattling like hell when using it. One that does t get hot while under load and has good ergonomics and saftey features that dont fall off a couple weeks. l
Excellent tests and comparisons! Thank you.
I just found this channel today and I’m impressed with the level of detail and quality that these tests offer. That being said, if I had to critique the test at all I would say I wish there was a way to prevent the person testing the tool from seeing the brand while conducting the subjective tests. This is probably nitpicking at its finest but was something I thought of during the video that might introduce some unconscious bias because we all have brands that we gravitate towards. Other than that great vid! Thanks for the valuable info
I use a metabo battery grinder never had any issues they are excellent.
I have a couple of the new makita grinders and your test reflect what i think of the tool. It feels good in the hand, gets hot, and the run time is disappointing. Four 24 inch porcelain cuts and a 6 amp battery is pooched. Even the X2 makita brushless cordless rear handle saw, Ive never made 211 crosscuts as they claim, not even half that, and I have a wack of brand new batterys. When these companies have there annual blow out event, giving away batteries and tools, I feel like Im at the paint store and their moving expired paint.
I'd be curious how these would do with the largest ah battery each manufacturer made for the tool and how they handled the extra runtime
I don't know about other brands, but Bosch has a 12 Ah battery.
That's some insane endurance and you probably want to take a break before that thing.
And with a powerfull charger like the 16A charger, it's charged to 80% in 36 minutes again.
But stuff like that is expensive, so probably not what most people are going to buy.
2-3 batteries and a not too slow charger are usualy the way to go unless you're far away from anywhere to charge the tool.
Top notch.
I like having all the stats. This way a DIY guy like myself can better choose for ‘my’ needs where cutting time, number of cuts Is less of an issue.
Gosh, I wish I had cordless tools when I built my house in the early 80’s. Then again, my dad built his with hand tools.
Great review! Thank you guys for taking the time to make this video 👍🙏❤️
Awesome video. Was a little dissapointed with the 2980(Milwaukee)'s run-time but I appreciate the video nonetheless.
Also, I'm a testing engineer and the conviction you guys have to removing human error from these tests is awesome. One of the best tool testing channels out there
you guys have the best tool reviews, keep up the great work!
Love your videos! In this video I do realize it's an older review; however, at the time Metabo actually had a 6" cutting version (slicer wheel) that is specifically designed for metal cutting in lieu 1 does all thar probably wouldn't be more fair to specifically target discipline w/ best tool for application. Personally owning a mechanical company that predominantly supports process piping in automotive manufacturing/pharmaceutical/food/beverage plants, we have years of data supporting the Metabo brand is far superior to other brands when metal fabrication is one of your core disciplines.
Hilti is known for concrete; however, has tools to accommodate most disciplines. Metabo is known for metal working; however, like Hilti it accommodates most disciplines in their product line. In this i wouldnt put Metabo against Hilti's rotary hammers or core drills because if we are setting anchors for columns on a pipe rack crossing an egress, core drilling for a floor penetration, confirming there's no structural members inside concrete we use Hilti because thats who they are. Dewalt does make solid tools and personally I have many at home; however, Dewalt targets mostly commercial clients and more specifically wood working. Industrial brands such as Metabo's German made product line or Hilti's line shouldn't be compared to commercial/residential tools that in a year won't be functioning nor pass weekly/monthly safety audits nor are rarely seen in industrial environments.
Again i do see value in this
test for most consumers and truly appreciate what you/your team does. This feedback is only based on experience, year end numbers spent on small tools/consumables, site experiences of other contractors. All tools have a specific job they do well and most manufacturers have a discipline they target; therefore, I feel comparing tools that target all should be compared but not getting elite manufacturers and comparing their core discipline against the ones that target all markets, example Festool/Wood, Hilti/concrete, Metabo/metal when comparing Metabo to say Ryobi or Makita compare wood working. Just my opinion here. I would love to see a review based on manhours used after a year of cutting 4" sch 40 CS or 316 SS with same test.
Thank you again and interesting perspective and great video as always!!
I've always heard that DeWalt grinders were top notch Haha. Good to see some data to back that up. Great video gentleman!
The flexvolt actually tops the m18 fuel. But the 20v dewalt is garbage
Makita , Bosch are best
I have the flexvolt and that thing is insane
Dewalt baby! Hate to be biased but just love their tools
Awesome video and informative as always, thanks for all the hard work!
I bought a Bauer angle grinder and I really like it good balance and not to heavy. So far so good 👌👍
This channel is a "BOSS" when comparing tools !!
Well done !!
I'll go with the nr 2 winner -----> The Bosch Cordless Grinder !!
I really like that " LED WORK LIGHT " feature !!
Comes in very handy when its a bit dark @ ur working area.
I have the 5 inch version with the normal switch. I'd go for 5 rather than 4,5. It's okay, but not super-fantastic.
ive had that 5" milwuakee fuel grinder for a few years now and i beat the tar out of it, pushing on it, running 9.0 batterys back to back to back through it dumping multiple batterys worth of heat into it without a break, taking the guard off and running 7" disks, bogging it down cutting asphalt shingles off, dropping it, binding disks up with out, banging it around, covered in welding spatter, used in the rain... never an issue
stay away from milwuakees brushed tools though nothing but trouble from them, the grinder let the smoke out, the trigger gave up on the sawzall, multiple sets of brushes on one drill, chuck gone on the other drill
I really love all your head2head
Awesome review as always:. Do cordless 18 guage Brad nailers next!
Thanks for the test on the grinders ; as a Ironworker, ya DeWalt seems to be the go to tool , we use the drills for the holes for post tensioning, cables, grinders for cutting the rebar, and snail that holds the ties together, we use the band saw actually for cutting the rebar on the job thanks!!
You probably need to remake this one. At least the Hercules brushless 4.5/5 inch wasn't out 4 years ago. With the extreme duty battery it is an extremely good grinder
I use grinders quite some for work, and have never had a need for the tool to tighten/loosen the locking nut. Just bring the nut until it stops by hand and continue tighten by gripping along the blade of the cutting disk. You do not really need crazy big amount of force there, they are self tighten. Only few times I needed a tool, if a thin cutting blade shatters and nothing left to grasp onto, or when undoing nut after ppl, who have used a tool to tighten the locking nut like the last one in their life.
To release the blade, grab by the blade in a similar manner as for tightening and give it a light toss over the abdomen or a knee if it does not come off just of pulling on the disk. Once you get a feel of it, swapping disks takes just a few seconds on any grinder. But always have a guard installed. Ppl often do not see it as an issue or loose it and do not bother to look for it, but it is very important piece of metal on the tool.
Why is Robert De Niro doing tool reviews? He's smashing the career change
Rexehuk haha
@@ConcordCarpenter 😄
Way to be honest! Love the M18 line but still use it according to my use. Others will come into play if I'm suppose to
Finally an unbiased channel that hasn't sold its soul to Techtronic industries. Metabo beating Milwaukee 😂😂. Xmas coming early to your channel 🎄🎁🎀. Milwaukee gonna send you a BIG box of goodies to get you on board😂
Shane are you new to our channel?
@@ConcordCarpenter yes. Really enjoyed the show.
You've got yourself a devoted follower and new subscriber!!! So informative, and I like the way you keep subjectivity to a minimum. 👍
We get tools from every manufacturer, many advertise with us, but we never let any of that bias our reviews. Rob and I have been doing this a long time, integrity is everything.
@@toddfratzel3569 I understand the getting tools from every manufacturer, but shows that go " look at this unbelievably fantastic hole in this red drill kit box" and then criticise dewalt/Makita tools that could down a tower block without breaking a sweat is very disingenuous and disrespectful to the viewers. Keep up the food work tho. I really enjoy the way you put the tools through real life scenarios.
Old video, new to me (LOL)... Same excellent video quality (for content, besides the excellent picture). I will repeat myself saying that you are my most reliable resource of tool evaluation in the entire YT environment. Usually I do my own homework before making a purchase and this time I was looking into the DeWalt DSG 415B (not shown here, but an upgrade over the shown model). I was saying that I do my homework and I make my purchase and after that I look deeper into what people have to say about it... In this case (again) your findings overlapped perfectly with my choice. Stay safe and have a good one; cheers!
Thank you
I have the old DeWalt brushed 20v grinder that I give to people I hate, and the DeWalt 60v which is my best friend. I put on a 7" diamond wheel and can cut through concrete block or 4" cast iron pipe with a metal cutting disk.
Great!! Long time waiting grinding H-H.
thanks. I figured after hours and hours and hours of looking at the " technical data" and the pictures of the grinders to scale that the brands...... of interest to me.... ranked very similarly to the results in your testing. its good a wonderful thing to have proofs. c:
Excellent!
Even though the brand whose battery platform I'm on didn't win, it's not a big enough concern for me to buy any of the brands that placed higher. The tool warranty is longer than most of the others, so that's another reason not to buy into another platform. This brand has so many grinders in their lineup that a choosing one comes down to personal preference as to the differences between them, mainly the switch type; slide vs paddle.
Just started a new trade and have been buying a lot of Milwaukee cordless tools. But I've been watching a lot of videos on grinder comparison cause that's probably gonna be my next purchase. And I'm kind of leaning towards a dewalt due to the issues I've heard with the Milwaukee. Even though I'll have to buy all new batteries too. This video will probably help a lot with my decision. Thanks for all the info!
Just what I needed. Time to purchase the Dewalt.
I've never used a tool for a grinder in my life. Spin it on hand tight then grab the blade and spin it. Tightens itself.
Variable speed and pricing are my top deliverables in seeking out this versatile tool. I want to be able to cut fabric, wood and steel with the same tool. ✅💪🏽👌. GREAT AND EXTENSIVE REVIEW. It sounded like the host was literally salivating at the mouth with all the information he was dying to share. 😱👌
Great video as always guys!! Thanks for paying so much attention to the details.
Caleb LaChance thank you sir! Please subscribe
It's not surprising DeWalt won. Their grinder is impressive. I'd like to hear an assessment of the Ryobi and rigid with regard to how viable these tools are on the low end. I would imagine the rigid would do a decent job for a home shop for very little money.
Tom Brown homeowner, entry level or occasional use
What a phenomenal, no-nonsense tool review. Thank you!
I’m on DeWalt platform and have both the 20v BL grinder and the 60v flexvolt ....as good as the 20v one is ...the flexvolt grinder absolutely slaughters it for performance !!! downsides are the increased weight and size of the 60v...
NONE of the other brands have an answer to Flexvolt ..
Steve Wheeler Steve I have both the 20v and the flexvolt Dewalt. The flexvolt version smokes the 20 volt version. The Flexvolt unit even beats my DEWALT and Milwaukee electric units with now problem.
Ron
Fein should have been in the test as they make a really good 5” grinder
aston james I over looked them :(
Yeah and the AVE year down of the corded model was built like a tank. Be interested to see the cordless one.
You guys do a great job with your reviews. You're unsurpassed.
Love these videos. Very in depth and informative. Thanks guys!
That you for you do. You guys make it very easy to see what we get for our money.well done!
Thank you guys for your time and energy.
you guys are thr best and really do a good job at demonstrating which is the over all best equipment in the market thank you very much .
You missed the rotating battery as a feature for Metabo. Whether they are 4 inch or 5 inch discs because it matters. Whether the switches can be locked in place, if they are the trigger or paddle type. But, you have done a great job. I would have missed many more things, if I was to do it. Thank you. 👍
Yulius The Julius great point, we really liked that feature and didn’t talk about it
I hope Milwaukee has gotten it together on their grinders. I had three failures in a row within 2 hours of usage. It would basically basically destroy the internal gearing. You could barely move the wheel by hand after it would fail and you'd hear the broken parts grinding away inside. Fortunately I was able to keep returning them and on the 4th one it's still kicking with about 100 hours on it. But I am not holding my breath on it.
I would like to check out Makita's wireless offering, cause really when it comes to grinders damn near nothing beats the old rat tails from Makita. If they did as well with it as they did with their old school grinders I could justify having the other battery system. $2k in batteries though definitely makes any type of switch difficult.
Yeah, sure. That happened...
Great comparo, thanks for all the hard work you guys put in!
Great comparison, really helped making a decision on which angle grinder to buy, you guys rock !!!
Y’all have the best tests, hands down
Love these comparisons !
It's a pity you have not mentioned the new X-Lock system from Bosch ! Maybe next time !
Keep going guys, these comparisons are precious.
Maxime Torrelli We covered it when we did the world of concrete coverage at the Bosch booth but we have not done a straight up review on it yet