Received my custom fitted JPX921 tour irons this week....I like smaller clubheads and the JPX Tour irons (pw-5) are so easy to hit, consistent , tight dispersion , workable , great turf interaction and a bit more forgiving on (slight) toe misses than my MP18 blades. Mizuno make great irons 👍🏽
@@MattWilliamsGolf Hi , love my MP18 MB irons but they have for the first time graphite shafts(project X LZ tour ) for my joints but I came to the conclusion that I like steel shafts better so searched for new clubs with steel shafts but will keep my MP18 blades for times when my joints give problems. I tested several heads (mizuno , Taylormade and titleist ) with several shafts. Also tested the JPX forged. Distance was longer but they also have stronger loft so that was to be expected. I Like smalle profile clubheads and liked the feel, dispersion and workability of the Tour better. In the end it was between MP20 , JP 921 or the taylormade P7MC. Chose the JPX921 because of the dispersion and flight on trackman and on course (was allowed to take the 7 demo iron with the selected shaft with me for several rounds). A little bit firmer than the buttery soft MP20 blades but with a little more forgiveness and still a very soft feel and great feedback. Already liked the Nippon modus tour 105 shaft and on the DNA optimizer this shaft was also in the top 3 recommended shafts. Could have taken the forged in the longer irons but already have a Titleist U500 4 iron and than a hybrid 19 degrees ping410 and a MP20 HMB 2 iron.
@@Raymond-sj7cn Excellent feedback. Yeah, as you may have seen, my dispersion with the JPX921 Forged was incredible. Landed it on the same line to the exact same yardage 3 times in a row (168 yard carry, 175 total w/ 7 iron). For me the P770 produces a better feel and result than the P7MC’s did. But I could see if you’re accustomed to more of a blade feel and look behind the ball, why the P7MC would feel like a better choice for you.
Interested to see what you go with. I was torn between 921 forged and P770. I swing 7i on average at 91 mph 167-170 carry and tested every shaft in different lengths, I’m typically + 1”. Ended up going P770 with Project X LZ 5.5 (115 gram) shaft. Waiting patiently for them to come in. You should see if you can test more shafts to make sure you find the right combo.
Yeah. Right now I would give the slight edge to the TaylorMade P770. That said, these Mizuno JPX 921 Forged are in my top 3, and could still end up being the ones I go with. And yes, after talking with my fitter and a couple golf tech junkies (including another blogger), it seems that a different shaft could be what give Mizuno the edge. Particularly in the long irons. The Nippon shaft (all of them really) are not as a good a fit for me. I like something with higher launch trajectory and spin. So it could be as simple as a different shaft selection for these Mizuno. Not sure if you saw it, but I did also do a review of the P770’s. Here’s the link if you didn’t see it: th-cam.com/video/U31tdIdWajQ/w-d-xo.html You’ll have to let me know how those are working out for you after you’ve played them a bit!
I ordered a set of 921 forged G-7 and the 921 hot metal pros in 6-4. I had the same issue with the 5 iron for the forged and the HMP is a great substitute for the forged long irons with no added price, more forgiveness, and higher ball speeds for my long irons.
Matt. How do the JPX 921 Forged and the PXG 0311p gen 2 irons compare to each other from your experiences? The idea of adding a Hot Metal Pro 5 & 6 iron to the Forged 7 - PW sounds intriguing.
Well, for me, the PXG 0311 Gen 2 would be the winner over the Mizuno JPX921 Forged. Mizuno feels better, but I enjoy basically everything else on the PXG over the Mizuno. My question would be, can you even still get the Gen2? PXG is running pretty close to low on those (I think). The other thing worth considering if you are comparing those irons, the Mizuno comes stock with a flatter lie angle and a slightly longer shaft. If you go with Mizuno, I would absolutely suggest you get fitted so that you could consider lie angle and shaft length options. Now, if you’re dead set on the Mizuno’s (without knowing anything about your game), then yes, I love the idea of a combo set. Just make sure your distance gapping is appropriate. Hope that helps!
I game the JPX921 Forged, GW through 4 iron and love them ALL. Yes, the 4 and 5 irons are more difficult to hit flush than the shorter irons, but I don't find there is a significant drop in perfomance from 6 to 4/5-irons. However, I've found that espesially the lower irons need some clubspeed to perform. My 7-iron averages 169 meters with the Project X LZ 6.0 / 120g.
Yeah, at the end of the day, I need to have the JPX921 Forged better fitted to my swing. I think adjusting lie angle is the key if I’m going to keep these clubs in the bag.
@@jimmyp6049 The JPX GW is 50˚ and feels softer then my old Titleist SM6 50˚ and it has a somewhat smaller head. I think the JPX GW is better then the SM6 on full shots, and the SM6 is better on half shots. I have 54˚ and 58˚ wedges so that is not a big deal. Prefer the JPX GW primary because it looks so much better in the bag.
I am still sporting my 30 year old Mizuno T Zoid blades. I get about 155 - 160 carry out of my 7 iron and the 5 - 3 irons are awesome...even after 30 years of abuse! Ahhh the buttery feel of Mizuno blades! However, I am looking for a new set of irons cause my old blades are tired an beat to heck and now that I am older looking for something a bit more forgiving...hate to give up the feel of a good blade.
The mizuno 5 Iron shaft is too soft or too light for you.Your timing appears to be different to the tm. I can also see on this vid that you are trying to force the Mizzy. I suggest a heavier shaft in the mizzy..Great vid.
Haven’t yet. But definitely am going to. Future review will come out. That said, the JPX921 Forged was freaking amazing up until the 5-iron. My guess is it is a shaft issue, not a club issue.
Hi Matt, our swings are very similar in terms of release and speed and when I was fitted for these about 6 weeks ago, I had the most joy with the kbs tour 90 shafts in stiff. You really should try this shaft, comes in just over 100 grams in stiff. It's a bit softer and will help you get the 5 iron up in the air 👍
Forgot to stay I stopped at 6 iron as I had already been fit in the past for ping G410 hybrids for my 5, 4 and 3 irons. As these hybrids are adjustable they blended perfectly, 7 iron 170 carry, 6 iron 183 carry, 5 hybrid 197 carry averages.
@@craigmitchell4443 Yeah, shaft and lie angle adjustments will be necessary if I go with these clubs. I’m a huge KBS and Dynamic Gold fan. I’m not a fan of the shafts that come standard in these irons.
Hi I'm exactly were you are up to at the moment,trying new irons and the 2 that are on top is the p770 and jpx921 but I have only tried the 7iron.was the 5iron easier to hit with the p770? I play of 14 on the other side of the pond though in the UK.enjoying your channel. Cheers Paul
Yeah, I had much better success with the P770 long irons. To be honest though, I think (for me) with the right fitting adjustments such as lie angle and shaft, that the JPX921 Forged could still be an incredible iron for me. But to be honest, the P770's are the leader in the clubhouse. Thanks for the kind words. Means a lot! Cheers mate.
@@MattWilliamsGolf I have a fitting on Monday so be making decision then, fittings at the royal birkdale which I would guess you have heard of. I let you know what I end up with, probably something total different 🤣
You werent mentioning ball speed on the 5 iron??? Ball speed is king ... 7 to 5 is 1 inch longer and a couple degrees lower launch so efficiency should go up ... should see 10 mph ball speed increase from 7 to 5. Only mizuno irons here tzoid pro to mp60 to jpx 919 tour and just combo with 921 forged 4-5-6 - had to weaken 6 iron loft to get gapping right and scaled up carry perfect 220/207/195. DG TI s400
Yeah, my bad. And now in looking back at my videos, I don’t recall what ball speed was on the 5-iron. I can tell you this, if I stick with these Mizuno’s, I’m going to need to adjust lie angle slightly, as well as the shafts. Totally dialed in fitting wise, I’m slightly less carry distance than you it appears. I’m more like 186, 198, 212. But it all comes down to being totally dialed in with my adjustments to these irons. I love your combo set. Sounds awesome!
@@MattWilliamsGolf I’m considering 921 metal pro with a graphite shaft to reduce vibration. I want the distance but I would consider forged for some of the short irons to improve feel.
Yeah, I truly do feel that a different shaft in 6 and 5 is the answer. Probably a KBS or a graphite. A number of people have suggested a blended set with Hot Metal long irons. But I think just a shaft change for those two irons could be the solution.
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First time viewer. Truly enjoy the "informal" approach. So much better/helpful than the technical reviews.
Wow, thank you so much! That’s great to hear. Lord more coming in 2021!
It’s wild. You were definitely swinging your 5 iron club different from the mizuno. Great channel.
Fitted for these yesterday and ordered them without hesitation. Feel fantastic
That’s awesome Ryan. What shafts did you go with?
@@MattWilliamsGolf They recommended KBS Tour for me 120g
@@ryandeery6930 Yeah, that shaft suits me well too. It’s not what we had in these clubs when I tested them out however.
@@MattWilliamsGolf possible numbers could get better on that damn 5 iron with a change haha. Fingers crossed
Received my custom fitted JPX921 tour irons this week....I like smaller clubheads and the JPX Tour irons (pw-5) are so easy to hit, consistent , tight dispersion , workable , great turf interaction and a bit more forgiving on (slight) toe misses than my MP18 blades. Mizuno make great irons 👍🏽
That’s awesome. What shaft did you go with? Also, did you test the Forged, or only the Tour?
@@MattWilliamsGolf Hi , love my MP18 MB irons but they have for the first time graphite shafts(project X LZ tour ) for my joints but I came to the conclusion that I like steel shafts better so searched for new clubs with steel shafts but will keep my MP18 blades for times when my joints give problems. I tested several heads (mizuno , Taylormade and titleist ) with several shafts. Also tested the JPX forged. Distance was longer but they also have stronger loft so that was to be expected. I Like smalle profile clubheads and liked the feel, dispersion and workability of the Tour better. In the end it was between MP20 , JP 921 or the taylormade P7MC. Chose the JPX921 because of the dispersion and flight on trackman and on course (was allowed to take the 7 demo iron with the selected shaft with me for several rounds). A little bit firmer than the buttery soft MP20 blades but with a little more forgiveness and still a very soft feel and great feedback. Already liked the Nippon modus tour 105 shaft and on the DNA optimizer this shaft was also in the top 3 recommended shafts. Could have taken the forged in the longer irons but already have a Titleist U500 4 iron and than a hybrid 19 degrees ping410 and a MP20 HMB 2 iron.
@@Raymond-sj7cn Excellent feedback. Yeah, as you may have seen, my dispersion with the JPX921 Forged was incredible. Landed it on the same line to the exact same yardage 3 times in a row (168 yard carry, 175 total w/ 7 iron). For me the P770 produces a better feel and result than the P7MC’s did. But I could see if you’re accustomed to more of a blade feel and look behind the ball, why the P7MC would feel like a better choice for you.
Interested to see what you go with. I was torn between 921 forged and P770. I swing 7i on average at 91 mph 167-170 carry and tested every shaft in different lengths, I’m typically + 1”. Ended up going P770 with Project X LZ 5.5 (115 gram) shaft. Waiting patiently for them to come in. You should see if you can test more shafts to make sure you find the right combo.
Yeah. Right now I would give the slight edge to the TaylorMade P770. That said, these Mizuno JPX 921 Forged are in my top 3, and could still end up being the ones I go with. And yes, after talking with my fitter and a couple golf tech junkies (including another blogger), it seems that a different shaft could be what give Mizuno the edge. Particularly in the long irons. The Nippon shaft (all of them really) are not as a good a fit for me. I like something with higher launch trajectory and spin. So it could be as simple as a different shaft selection for these Mizuno. Not sure if you saw it, but I did also do a review of the P770’s. Here’s the link if you didn’t see it: th-cam.com/video/U31tdIdWajQ/w-d-xo.html
You’ll have to let me know how those are working out for you after you’ve played them a bit!
Spot on. Only way to get it right 👍🏼
Love this... I’ve been considering these Mizuno’s.
Do it. You won’t be disappointed
Just got fitted for these with kbs c-taper light 110 S shafts. Can’t wait to get them!
Sweet! Check back later and let me know how they're playing for you.
I ordered a set of 921 forged G-7 and the 921 hot metal pros in 6-4. I had the same issue with the 5 iron for the forged and the HMP is a great substitute for the forged long irons with no added price, more forgiveness, and higher ball speeds for my long irons.
Yeah, a lot of a players doing that combo and really loving it. The Forged and the HMP. That’s awesome to hear that’s working out for you too.
Matt. How do the JPX 921 Forged and the PXG 0311p gen 2 irons compare to each other from your experiences? The idea of adding a Hot Metal Pro 5 & 6 iron to the Forged 7 - PW sounds intriguing.
Well, for me, the PXG 0311 Gen 2 would be the winner over the Mizuno JPX921 Forged. Mizuno feels better, but I enjoy basically everything else on the PXG over the Mizuno. My question would be, can you even still get the Gen2? PXG is running pretty close to low on those (I think). The other thing worth considering if you are comparing those irons, the Mizuno comes stock with a flatter lie angle and a slightly longer shaft. If you go with Mizuno, I would absolutely suggest you get fitted so that you could consider lie angle and shaft length options. Now, if you’re dead set on the Mizuno’s (without knowing anything about your game), then yes, I love the idea of a combo set. Just make sure your distance gapping is appropriate. Hope that helps!
I game the JPX921 Forged, GW through 4 iron and love them ALL. Yes, the 4 and 5 irons are more difficult to hit flush than the shorter irons, but I don't find there is a significant drop in perfomance from 6 to 4/5-irons. However, I've found that espesially the lower irons need some clubspeed to perform. My 7-iron averages 169 meters with the Project X LZ 6.0 / 120g.
Yeah, at the end of the day, I need to have the JPX921 Forged better fitted to my swing. I think adjusting lie angle is the key if I’m going to keep these clubs in the bag.
@@MattWilliamsGolf Good point. Mizuno irons are 1 degree flatter compared to most. Mine are 3 degrees toe up and a 1/4” longer shaft.
How are u likening the gap wedge ?? I have HMB’s and they didn’t make a gap wedge . What do you think about gap wedge ?
@@jimmyp6049 The JPX GW is 50˚ and feels softer then my old Titleist SM6 50˚ and it has a somewhat smaller head. I think the JPX GW is better then the SM6 on full shots, and the SM6 is better on half shots. I have 54˚ and 58˚ wedges so that is not a big deal. Prefer the JPX GW primary because it looks so much better in the bag.
@@jimmyp6049 It is a super soft feel, good spin, and flies great. One thing you'll want to check is loft to make sure it fits with your gapping.
I am still sporting my 30 year old Mizuno T Zoid blades. I get about 155 - 160 carry out of my 7 iron and the 5 - 3 irons are awesome...even after 30 years of abuse! Ahhh the buttery feel of Mizuno blades!
However, I am looking for a new set of irons cause my old blades are tired an beat to heck and now that I am older looking for something a bit more forgiving...hate to give up the feel of a good blade.
Mark, are you wanting to stick with blades?
@@MattWilliamsGolf ahh no. I dont have the swing or power anymore. 🤣
The mizuno 5 Iron shaft is too soft or too light for you.Your timing appears to be different to the tm. I can also see on this vid that you are trying to force the Mizzy. I suggest a heavier shaft in the mizzy..Great vid.
Have you tried the HMB's yet? For me they felt better, more forgiveness, and better numbers thank any of the jpx . Might be worth a try?
Haven’t yet. But definitely am going to. Future review will come out. That said, the JPX921 Forged was freaking amazing up until the 5-iron. My guess is it is a shaft issue, not a club issue.
@@MattWilliamsGolf I agree Matt. You hit others good yardage. Possible other issue.
Hi Matt, our swings are very similar in terms of release and speed and when I was fitted for these about 6 weeks ago, I had the most joy with the kbs tour 90 shafts in stiff. You really should try this shaft, comes in just over 100 grams in stiff. It's a bit softer and will help you get the 5 iron up in the air 👍
Forgot to stay I stopped at 6 iron as I had already been fit in the past for ping G410 hybrids for my 5, 4 and 3 irons. As these hybrids are adjustable they blended perfectly, 7 iron 170 carry, 6 iron 183 carry, 5 hybrid 197 carry averages.
@@craigmitchell4443 Yeah, shaft and lie angle adjustments will be necessary if I go with these clubs. I’m a huge KBS and Dynamic Gold fan. I’m not a fan of the shafts that come standard in these irons.
Hi I'm exactly were you are up to at the moment,trying new irons and the 2 that are on top is the p770 and jpx921 but I have only tried the 7iron.was the 5iron easier to hit with the p770? I play of 14 on the other side of the pond though in the UK.enjoying your channel.
Cheers Paul
Yeah, I had much better success with the P770 long irons. To be honest though, I think (for me) with the right fitting adjustments such as lie angle and shaft, that the JPX921 Forged could still be an incredible iron for me. But to be honest, the P770's are the leader in the clubhouse. Thanks for the kind words. Means a lot! Cheers mate.
@@MattWilliamsGolf I have a fitting on Monday so be making decision then, fittings at the royal birkdale which I would guess you have heard of. I let you know what I end up with, probably something total different 🤣
@@paulgore8242 Ohhhh yes, quite familiar with Royal Birkdale. That’s awesome! You’ll have to let me know how that all turns out!
You werent mentioning ball speed on the 5 iron??? Ball speed is king ... 7 to 5 is 1 inch longer and a couple degrees lower launch so efficiency should go up ... should see 10 mph ball speed increase from 7 to 5. Only mizuno irons here tzoid pro to mp60 to jpx 919 tour and just combo with 921 forged 4-5-6 - had to weaken 6 iron loft to get gapping right and scaled up carry perfect 220/207/195. DG TI s400
Yeah, my bad. And now in looking back at my videos, I don’t recall what ball speed was on the 5-iron. I can tell you this, if I stick with these Mizuno’s, I’m going to need to adjust lie angle slightly, as well as the shafts. Totally dialed in fitting wise, I’m slightly less carry distance than you it appears. I’m more like 186, 198, 212. But it all comes down to being totally dialed in with my adjustments to these irons. I love your combo set. Sounds awesome!
Mizuno are 1° flatter as standard so your five iron will be toe down hence a fade and loss of yards.... Try 1° up right I bet you'll smash it.
Yeah thanks Jay. I’ve mentioned that in some other comments, that lie angle needs to be adjusted (if they stay in my bag). Thanks!!!
Get the hot metal pro in a 5 iron
Yeah, that’s definitely something I’m considering.
Do a combo and get the 5 iron in Hot Metal Pro. It’ll fly.
Yeah, that’s definitely one idea I’m considering. Another the fitter and I are discussing would be simply a different shaft in the long irons.
@@MattWilliamsGolf I’m considering 921 metal pro with a graphite shaft to reduce vibration. I want the distance but I would consider forged for some of the short irons to improve feel.
@@michaeldejesus Pretty hard to beat the feel of the 921 Forged. But I love your graphite shaft idea.
I’m surprised the balls are traveling that far in that cold air.
Maybe shaft was too heavy for 5 iron
Yeah, I truly do feel that a different shaft in 6 and 5 is the answer. Probably a KBS or a graphite. A number of people have suggested a blended set with Hot Metal long irons. But I think just a shaft change for those two irons could be the solution.
I really don’t think you’re flushing it either.
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