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Very crucial question for my day's well being, why do you always call Guilaman aryan isn't it like another name for iranian? And ma boy here is clearly blonde.
The reason Guilliman is my favorite Primarch is because both he and Horus came to the same terrible realization: That the Emperor didn't really love them and that the Astartes getting axed like the Thunder Warriors was a credible possibility. But while Horus fell to despair and ruined everything for everyone, Guilliman actually *did something constructive about it.* That's why every Ultramarine is taught civil engineering and administration, to ensure that even in times of peace his sons would have something of value to add.
Guilliman, unlike many of his brothers dreamed of the time he could put away his sword and dedicate himself fully to managing and improving the Imperium through the boring but essential act of good management. Yes, super boring stuff, but few realize how indispensable and essential knowing where the records are, what the records hold and how to properly apply them, plus having the right forms for making a company be as simple as possible matter. In this regard, all his Ultramarines where superb administrators and he left the best in charge of multiple worlds in order to properly bring them into the fold and make them prosper. This actually worked and 10000 years later, the planets that where conquered and later united with the Imperium aren't just the most prosperous and well managed, but extremely loyal to the Imperium. Who knew good administration was so essential?
@@Keemperor40K "Amateurs talk of strategy; Professionals talk of logistics." - Gen. Omar Bradley Perturabo also dreamed of the day he could finally lay down arms and dedicate himself to building beautiful and wondrous works of architecture and engineering that would endure the test of time but, unlike Guilliman, he was too introverted and individualistic to actually pass down his desire unto his sons, and thus the only things they're good at building are fortifications and engines of destruction.
Completely wrong. The thunder warriors were murderous thugs who were all dying of super cancer. Space marines showed virtually no flaws, and trying to cull 18 space marine legions PLUS THEIR PRIMARCHS would be suicide. There was zero chance of the Emperor doing that
@@robertnelson9599 How but the nonsense answer was that the round had actually missed the brain and grazed the inside of the skull. So only hitting bone and no organs. Fulgrim even commented that he'd be dead if the round had been just slightly to the left. How convenient, right?
My favourite Guilliman moment is when he declares a piece of paper his mortal enemy, because he can't pick it up with his fuck huge gauntlets. And then has to explain to Cato that yes, Primarchs do have a sense of humour.
But I Cato Sicarius am the funniest of all, because I Cato Sicarius have followed the Emperor of Mankind and my Primarch Robot Gorilliman to the letter in all of their examples, which makes I Cato Sicarius the funniest of all Ultramarines and all other lesser Astartes legions.
@@TheOutdoorNerd hoo hoo indeed Sicarius, come closer, so i can teach you one very funny joke: what are the 3 words who make you face hit the ground? I CAST FIST!!!!
I beleive the inquisition wouldn't question it anyway. The imperium already have a bunch of little agreement with some craftworld, mostly thanks to the inquisition itself.
To be fair, saying Guilliman is the weakest primarch is like saying Little Boy was the weakest nuke. If it lands on you, you're going to have a shit time.
Also Lorgar pre Daemon Primarch is the physically weakest Primarch. See Betrayer and Vengeful spirit where other characters (Horus and Angron) comment on it.
@@Aaron-io8vw Even Lorgar seems aware of the fact that he's really weak by primarch standards (pre-ascension at least), the difference is Rotary Guillotine has an excellent grasp on tactics and can figure out how to work around his weaknesses and exploit his opponent's weaknesses. Gorgonzola can also recognize an unwinnable battle and will just choose not to fight it; on Istvaan V Lorgar choose to fight Corax even though he knew he had no hope of winning or accomplishing anything meaningful, only reason Corax didn't kill him was because Konrad rescued him. Corax had been desperately fighting for his life for hours by this point and Lorgar was still fresh to the battle and Lorgar *still* was basically useless. If Konrad had just let Corax kill Lorgar he could have been forgiven.
@@Triumph263 To be fair, Lorgar had to choose between letting angry Corax slaughter the Gal Vorbak and his legion or facing Corax himself at the risk of getting shanked for the trouble. But yeah, that was the moment when GW revealed that Corax isn't a badass, but a total fucking badass
“Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics.” Guilliman summed up in a nutshell. Guilliman is such a formidable Primarch because he actually TRUSTS his legion to do their job, instead of insisting on always leading them from the front. He's willing to delegate responsibilities to trusted lieutenants and makes it his priority to make sure they get where they're needed and that the resources they need arrive with them. More than badass warriors, the Ultramarines are known for being EFFICIENT. Guilliman does not believe in "acceptable loses" he believes in minimizing casualties by providing his troops the tools they need to survive, and to minimize risks. There's a reason the Ultramarines still to this day are the most numerous chapter when you include all their successors, they're REALLY good at not dying cause they're REALLY good at making sure the enter battle with every possible advantage.
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 "Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics." - General Of The Army Omar Bradley, First Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Of Staff, United States Army.
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 I mean potentially but logistics is more than just an aspect of strategy. Logistics is what makes the difference between a fierce fighting force and a force that can build an empire. Strategy and tactics allow a commander like guilleman to utilize his soldiers and fleet with maximum efficiency and minimal losses. Logistics is what allows guilleman to not even need to be the direct strategist for every engagement. Being able to delegate command to his officers and focus on resource and reinforcement movements. The blood angels are a good example of amazing tactics and only standard logistical coordination. They can clap armies sure but there is a reason Sanginius didn’t have an empire and Guilleman does. The blood angels don’t use their resources as effectively as the ultramarines do, and no one does logistics better the Guilleman. Guilleman isn’t using strategy or tactics when he’s administering resource movements across a thousand planets in a dozen sectors at the same time. Guilleman Being able to ensure his forces are sufficiently armed and supplied to wage any kind of warfare while maintains internal cohesion and efficiency is the reason his legion had one of the highest compliance numbers, running a 500 world mini empire and being one of the biggest legions all at the same time. There’s a reason why Horus was jealous of G man.
Guilliman walking angrily across the hull of his ship, in open space, without his helmet on, roaring his fury at the Word Bearers that just betrayed him as the battle of Calth rages all around him. It is one of the most bad ass scenes in all of the HH series of novels.
There is an old saying I love. “Boys study war. Men study logistics.” And the thing most people forget about Guilliman is that he is a logistical monster. There is no need to be a combat beast if you never have to fight. Guilliman does not win battle through martial prowess. He wins wars before they happen.
after listening to the custodes book watcher of the throne its shocking how much logistics he can handle whats the audiobook called where guiliman resurects and ownards? th
No, Guilliman can't be a politician, because he actually gets things done, rather than just constantly lying, dissembling and blaming the opposition for all his failures while never actually delivering anything he has ever promised
@J. Tripper I think that happened, when he had the High Lords of Terra replaced, they tried to launch a coup against Guilliman, so they could go back to doing nothing, then right as they were giving a speech denouncing him, every single one of the plotters got simultaneously head-shot by Vindicare assassins
@@taliawtf6944 That is probably the best way of putting it. The Hexarchy were Politicians, consumed with self interest and dogma, while Guilliman was more focused on actually saving the Imperium
He survived the God Blight, a disease cooked up in Nurgles own cauldron using Guillimans blood, a disease SPECIFICALLY MADE TO KILL GODS, a disease that would've killed Nurgles own btch Primarch, Mortarion, then Guilliman raided NURGLES OWN GARDEN, walked right up to Nurgles house and set the lawn on fire. So now there's this massive burn scar in Green Hell right outside Nurgles window. An eternal reminder to stay TF away from Ultramar.
Nurgle: *looking thru his metaphorical houses' windows at G-man* G-man, surrounded by fire: "Fuck off, you no good dirty slimeball, or it's your house thats next."
NURGLE: “is it ready?… the uh, you know” MORTARIAN: “Ohhh right, the disease, Guilliman’s disease, the disease specifically chosen to kill Guilliman…. yea no”
Guilliman's ability to take a devastating loss, adapt, and come back to fight even harder is very reminiscent of Rome during the Punic Wars. Fitting considering the overall theme of the Ultramarines.
Going to have to stop you there. There's nothing similar there except that both were comebacks. Occasionally you see the Romans adapt quickly, but most of the time they are simply able to keep losing long enough that they are able to adapt when other states would have just peace treatied. Look at the battles with Hannibal in the 2nd Punic War. It's literally Romans not adapting until they are on the brink of despair, panic, and possible siege of Rome; its only then they are pliant enough for Fabian to use his super adaptive strategy of.....not engaging Hannibal in field battles. In fact....the only battles that were won against Hannibal as the field commander, were battles where the Romans had Numidian cavalry. In fact, you never see Ultramar during 30K losing more than 10% of its male population after losing entire army/fleets one after another; which is what happened to Rome during the first two Punic Wars. I know you want to make this comparison work.....because of the Roman aesthetic but it doesn't.
It also wasn't mentioned in here, but when he was fighting Magnus, the blows that hit Magnus with just his fists, caused the crust of the entire moon to shake. Robot Gurlyman is a bad ass.
"When you have to murder a primarch, and you get one at your mercy, do not waste the moment answering his questions when he still has a bolter in his hand" - Gulliman to the Alpha Legionair who almost successfully assassinated him. Ladies and gentlemen, Gulliman is the primarch who got his villain into monologing.
I love that scene since it shows that the Primarchs could be killed by even a small group of space marines if the marines plan ahead and setup the scenario.
@@ShadowGhost0117 Even Angron understand that there is nothing he can do if he get surrounded by 20 marines bolter ready. Power armor or not, he will die. But killing a primarch is still a difficult job and for a well guarded primarch like Gulliman, you only have a small window of opportunity. And they missed the opportunity to finish their job. Had it been Corax or worse, Konrad, they would have been baited by their ego too. They had even quicker wits than Gulliman
Bolters can't kill Primarchs. Or you'd need a LOT of bolter rounds. They've taken tank rounds to the face and gotten bruises. (Pretty sure that was either Fulgrim or Corax) Angron was literally stepped on BY A TITAN
Seriously, though, basic ideas of reasoning and what we see as clearheadedness, regardless of ideology, are relatively new to our culture, reestablished around the time of the Renaissance.
@@NateBperson 1: hey guys, how about instead of treating our citizens like resources, we give them an actual reason to fight for the imperium other than propaganda that does little to prepare them for battle and stop keeping the existence of 4 eldrich abominations that want to do naughty things to our souls regardless of if we know abt them or not a secret from the vast majority of our population? Person 2: but if they know about chaos, then they’ll immediately join! You can’t hide your heresy from me, heathen. Person 1:… they join chaos because the lie they’ve been told their whole lives was just shattered by a slaaneshi succubus with 7 cocks. Maybe if they knew from the beginning, they’d know that as good as they look, fucking demons and immortality isn’t worth eternal soul BDSM. Just a thought. Person 2: yes inquisitor, this heretic right here. He is making far too much logical sense for this not to be heresy. Inquisitor: yeah well you saw it so by by planet. *hits exterminatus button*
Question, where are all of the other primarch helmet? Untill this point i only see guilliman, the lion, alpharius omegon, and maybe 2 of the lost primarch
@@ariza7654 Thats why these 3 lives longer. All of these 3 are know to have some common sense on the battlefield. Alpharius and Omegon do that for obvious reason: incognito. Also because wearing a balaclava would look silly.
If you liked that, please check out the vid by jocko willink titled simply "good" it's on yt and probably the best motivational thing I've ever seen by a long way
What makes guilliman so great is that he knows what he’s good at and how to use it to his advantage. This lets him punch way above his weight class by leveraging his good traits while using his intellect to negate his disadvantages.
Well no, pretty much all of them had that (the only one who really didn’t was Angron, maybe also Leman, every other was at least a decent politician in addition to warrior and tactician, and many were also very good craftsmen and/or engineers, not to mention outright artists). Guilliman was the one with the best skill set in addition to being good at killing stuff though.
Agreed. With the exception of Angron, who didn't, and Alpharius Omegon because heck knows what his personal history actually is, *all* the primarchs became rulers of their homeworld.
@@nathanjora7627 Guilliman was one of the few that effectively used their other skills. The rest either wasted their potential, like Perturabo being an inventor but confining himself to warfare, or used their abilities too rashly, like with Magnus ruining the webway project.
@@Alexander59059 Sure, but I’d still say on a big scale being a strategist and master diplomat/state man/manager is better than being a great inventor. Considering the Imperium’s infrastructure regarding technology, even at that time, there is only so much that one could’ve helped the imperium through this skill, whereas being supremely efficient at legion building, very efficient conquest wise, and leaving prosperous peaceful loyal stable worlds behind you, is pretty much all you could ever hope from... Well anybody really. And not all wasted their potential or used it rashly, Russ and Angrin has, as far as I know, pretty much rock bottom potential apart from killing stuff and conquering shit, which is the only two things they did anyway (apart from eating and drinking in Russ’s case XD). Inventors and/or artists like Sanguinius, Fulgrim, Vulkan, or Manus also didn’t particularly waste their potential in those regards, again it’s more of a question of how widespread their impact could’ve been, and with the mechanicum around the answer is « not much ». Add people like Dorn, or Lion, or Horus, and you just have basically less good Guilliman, with the exception of Dorn having the advantage in terms of fortification, but again there is only so far your influence can spread in that regard. And for Corax, mortarion, Batman, etc... Well, let’s say their skill set weren’t super wide to begin with -_-
G-Man is the only Primarch who doesn't have severe psychological damage. Despite all his trials, Guilliman is the only one of his brothers who managed to pull themselves together in an effort to save the galaxy, which is on the brink of collapse by the time of the Indomitus Crusade. The Lion is supposedly taking a really long nap, Corax and the Wolf gave in to their desire for revenge and abandoned their causes. For me, Guilliman is great because he refused to give in to his personal issues, rising above them, in order to render aid to a galaxy falling apart. With Sanguinius dead, Guilliman is the hero the Imperium needs.
I like how as the art gets newer and newer, the Ultramarines look angrier and angrier. It's like they're now just getting sick of everyone's shit and have a very "fine, I'll do it myself," attitude as they essentially are taking more and more control in the Imperium and wiping out enemy after enemy.
I don't blame them, being the ONLY responsible part of the Astartes can get your nerves go crazy and especially moreso for Astartes who *are also able to administer stuff*.
They should. After all, Ultramar is the envy of all the other space sectors of the Imperium. Thanks to the enlightened rule that Guilliman had set up and has endured, the citizens have a high degree of social mobility, industry's negative externalities are kept in check, and religious dumbfuckery isn't rampant.
Guilliman successfully defended himself against a surprise attack by the alpha legion. Without armor and in his standard day-to-day clothes. Just for that alone he's badass.
@theredditexperience1 Ultramarine captain:"Father, how did you do that?" Gulliman:"I studied from the footage of a man from ancient Terra who mastered the ancient art of Kung Fu" Ultramarine captain:"What is his name?" Gulliman:"Jackie Chan, you should study it sometimes"
You did a bang-up job at making Roboute Guilliman look and sound like the chad he's supposed to be. God knows what would be happening with him now if Matt Ward was still writing for GW.
I’m imagining Robby getting a breather after all this crap, and then immediately points to Yvraine and is like, “Eldar. I need to speak to you in my chambers. Privately.”
When Saint Celestine was fighting the Chaos Marines and saw Guillimen stood up from his stasis, she said to herself: In this battle there are no longer any deaths but only martyrs
He was dying for thousands of years until uncle belisarius cawl came and gave him a little wakey wakey stuff so that he could Ultramarine like no other once more.
Key point about Guilliman as an individual, rather than a tool, is that he realised quite early on during the Great Crusade that the Big E was a pretty shitty dad, with overpowering, psychically-charged charisma, but an inability to truly empathise on a human, individual level with anyone save perhaps Malcador that exceeded even the autism of Lion el'Jonson. However, he acknowledged that his drive and the ideals Emps fought for were ultimately noble, and worth pursuing, despite the cost. Ironically, this is what led to his founding of the Imperium Secundus, which he still considers his greatest mistake 10,000 years later.
Plus, he cared about his marine to the point he organized and trained his legion so that they can move on even if he's dead. He also taught them other knowledge besides warfare so that they won't be unemployed should the crusade end. Many other primarchs love war but Gulliman actually aimed for peace. He himself picked up the hobby of collecting weapons and books. Make you wonder whether he's related to the magpies or not?
Having possible the best "childhood" helps that. Guilliman is arguably the most well adjusted Primarchs. Sure they almost all had some type of adopted families but many of them had issues with their adopted families, Mortarion and Perutabo hated their adopted families(well except for Perturabo's sister). Corvus and Angron where raised by slaves. Some of the others who had decent parental figures like Magnus and the Lion grew up on planets heavily effected by the warp, Sanguinius grew up on a radiation blasted desert filled with mutants. Contrast to Guilliman, who grew up in Space Rome/Greece with a Father who was pretty cool and a maternal figure who is one of the most awesome normal humans in the setting(Tarasha, who told off the fucking night haunted to his face)
@@Aaron-io8vw Actually, most of them adjusted pretty well. Magnus got fucked over much later in the heresy, before that he was fine. Corax has his plant and the right mindset too, he's just unlucky during the heresy. Of course, Gulliman hit the jackpot compared to the other.
@@minhducnguyen674 Aye, Corax was always a noble soul, even during his childhood, and Magnus, pre-Heresy/Nikea fiasco was easily among the nicest of the Primarchs. Dude actively worked to avoid leaving naught but charred ruins in his legion's wake, as well as preserving and studying the lore of the various civilizations they conquered. His fall, of all the traitor Primarchs is, imo, the most tragic. All he ever wanted to do was help lift humanity into a new age.
@@zipscool Hell, even Perty had the potential for greater thing. If only emp actually appreciate inventions that's not only for war, he could have been building stuff that's even more useful than siege machines. Didn't they said the most important STC discovered was a tractor? The ability to feed trillions of people is even more useful than a siege engine. Perturabo could have been driving the Imperiums into another golden age of technology
People forget that for all his supposed sternness, he loved good jokes. Was a mama's boy. And really appreciated Aeonid Thiel, the Sergeant who was censured and helmet painted red turning it into a badge of respect once the betrayal started, who would drop theoreticals and practicals to just get things done, like pretending to be a Word Bearer and stabbing them when he got close, ignoring an invite by a Night Lord to engage in melee combat to just go Indianna Jones and shoot the dastard, decide that if he's already in trouble why the heck not mess around with all his Primarch's cool looking weaponry in his room, and calling out his Primarch on any concerns.
I am paraphrasing this from something I read, but there is one thing that sets Guilliman apart from his Primarch brothers: maturity. I would say that the setbacks he faced during his life has been instrumental with his character development. While many of his brothers were able to reclaim whole worlds, it came at a cost for Guilliman in the form of his adoptive father's life. When the Horus Heresy broke out, Guilliman again had to confront the failure of not being there for the Emperor when He needed them most. Being able to accept failure and learn from it is maturity in its abridged version, and this is probably the main reason why Guilliman did not crack like Horus did when confronted with the Emperor's truth. The stupid idiots shouting about how Guilliman sucks can shout all they want, but I will say Guilliman's character development was done well. Not perfect, obviously, but if that was the case, then we have no story to tell.
“And lorgar was the emperors deep and regrettable taste for choir boys” 💀 you can’t just randomly execute me like this every video I’m never ready for it
I think the line from Know No Fear sums his beast mode up the best. "He was never a man you could warm to. He was too hard, too driven, too austere. Now he is wounded. Wounded like an animal might be wounded, wounded in a way that makes that animal... dangerous."
"If we face him, we have drawn the worst luck. He is not the strongest fighter, or the fastest, but he never gives up. He will never waver, never tilt his hand, even when backed into a corner. He gives you no opening. He is a man who beats you in the end." ~13 Assassins
Just when Logar is about to finish Gman off with his wierd sorcery, Gulliman point to behind Logar and say" look! " Logar says :" not gonna fall for that trick brother. Even kids know that " Then Corax appears from behind an smack him with a steel chair.
Guilliman is the Imperium's Chad at this moment >Wields the Emperor's sword >Has an Eldar Girlfriend >10 feet >Takes his Eldar Armour off just because he feels like it
@@sonofjack6286 def tallet than that, a normal space marine is 7-8 feet a primaris round 8.5-9 feet, custodes bout 8.75-10 feet and ud say guilliman have at least 2ft on a custodes
There are a overwhelmingly large amount of what one could say character duplicates between the G-Man and Julius Caesar. If you know stuff about Julius Caesar and if you know the stuff about Warhammer 40K then y'all know what I'm trying to say.... 1- Julius Caesar was not a warrior but understood the importance of a commander on the battlefield for morale. 2- Julius Caesar was rarely in favor of brash all out attack strategies when preferred a long drawn-out calculated assault 3- after decimating a population and thoroughly removing the previous governance instead of killing off the noble class integrated them into society. Sound similar the list goes on but heck nobody even cares and nobody's even going to read this
well i did read it so where is my monehhh... jokes aside, i think you made an pretty interesting point here. I am relatively new to warhammer 40k (reading books and watching videos since last year). I know little to nothing about gulli but started watching a few vids about him. the greek/roman connection is relatively obvious but i didnt think about comparing him to caesar. so well done here. a stranger has once again broaden my horizon
Arguably the greatest 2 achievements of big G so far are 1, humanizing his chapter from smurfs back to ultramarines for a fair few people, and 2, not just proving the Emperor is actually still alive (state of his body be what it may) but seemingly giving him hope again as well.
To be fair being a goody two shoes in 40k is probably a good thing considering the lack of common decency in most places. Also Guilliman did one thing that earns him a gold star from me. He was able to actually make Lorgar regret/feel guilty about what he did by just glaring at him.
The coolest thing about Guiliman is he's done a shitload of fighting and *survived* and combat wise he's a pretty low primarch. Like similar to Logar. So he punches UP very well.
I would say he is more mid tier, guillimans real strength in battle comes from his ability to wield his troops effectively and understand the strength and weakness of both his troops and enemies. He is also very flexible unlike most other primarchs who tend to be to stuck in a single facet of war.
@theredditexperience1 Fighting 2 to 1, when he's just finished destroying 2 fresh fleets with what is effectively a ragtag fleet and then later almost beating 1 Primarch (Lorgar), while fending one of the most brutal and devastating Close Combat Primarchs is a feat in and of itself. He only retreated, when Angron became a Demon Prince and Guilliman said, time to reassess the situation.
Then open a window so the Sanguinor stops smacking into it and can return as Sanguinius proper. Next, make an especially dark corner of the house for Corax to slither into, right across from the fireplace for Vulkan. Last but not least is to set up a new bike and some building blocks in the garage.
dude the lion and guilleman do not work well together , it take sanguinish to stop them form fighting each other last time they meet, lion is the only one to be smart enough to challenge guilleman for the lord commander posistion and the only one that have the pride to not admit guilleman is better then him in maintaining the empire and can keep people in line without killing them.
Guilliman would be better off with literally any other loyalist primarch returning. That being said.......if they could work together....they will only work together as well as the plot needs them to keep things from going too well. Since a productive Lion/Robocop duo would be fucking overpowered. If Guilliman were able to stay on Terra, and the Lion run the next crusade......it would be ridiculous. Obviously the Lion is going to come back and cause problems. Then Dorne shows up and has problems with Guilliman, and then Dorne and Guilliman makeup, and counter balance the Lion. Then the Khan comes back and is a wild card. Then Vulcan comes back and dies again. Then Leman comes back and punches Guilliman. Then Guilliman goes back to Macragge. Then the Wolf King fucks everything up. Then Guilliman orchestrates a plan to setup a bunch of mini-astronomicons guarded by the new legions, send a new legion of Primaris into the Webway led by the Custodes, and while they push into the webway, the Emperor heals himself. Then he comes off the throne but he's become insane and retarded and Vulcan has to go collect his disparate soul shards from across the Imperium. He dies alot. That gets us to 43K.
The battle around them quieted, all other clashes and fights seemed pointless now that the two Primearch's faced each other. "So this is what you've become, nothing more than a vessel for everything that our empire stood against!“ Shouted Guilliman “I have learned the truth brother, I am…...Enlightened and you can be too if you merely let yourself be educated.” Lorgar stated “There is nothing left then, anything to be said has already been. Prepare to die. Traitor!” roared Guilliman as he charged his fallen brother. Lorgar quickly reacted by swinging Illuminarum, sending it crashing into Guilliman’s left shoulder pauldron, reeling from the strike Guilliman stands his ground, grabbing the shaft of Illuminarum pushing it to the side using the opening to place an elbow strike into Lorgar’s face. As he staggered backwards from the attack Gullimen raises his sword to slash as his brother, ripping his mace away from Gullimen’s grasp Lorgar raised his hand towards Gullimen, with a great blast of psychic might Gullimen was sent hurtling, as his feet make contact with the floor he digs in to stop himself, he looks ahead to see Lorgar swinging Illuminarum upwards towards his head, Robute quickly deflects the blow with his sword but with his momentum Lorgar brings Illuminarum into the air to bring down upon his brothers skull. Gullimen steps out of the blow just in time as Illuminarum collides with the floor shattering where it hit, in but a split second Roboute slices through Lorgar’s right arm, cutting it clean off of him. “ARGHHHHHH!” Lorgar hollowed in pain has Gullimen kicks his chest, knocking him on his back. “Brother it is not too late!, you can still be enlightened to the truth of our existence if you would just-” “Enough” seethed Gullimen as he raised his blade to end the corrupted primarch, but as his blade began to fall, Lorgar raised his arm and with another psychic boom froze Gullimen where he stood. “One day Robute, one day you shall be enlightened and join us.” Lorgar stated as he opened a portal behind him “but until that day please tell our dear father that I sai-” he paused noticing something on the peripheral of his vision “I told you i’d never stop hunting.” was all he heard before dozens of black talons pierced his back all the way through his chest. Gullimen now free walks up to his brother before raising his blade and with a grim look saying “Goodbye Lorgar” and decapitating the first heretic and killing him once and for all.
I literally want that to be how Corvus Corax returns. It doesn’t have to have Lorgar die at that moment (although I would prefer that) but still have Guilliman and Lorgar fighting and have Corax just appear out of nowhere like the master assassin he is. Guilliman and Corax would be a cool combo to see in modern 40k. Both are great at diplomacy (Guilliman is obviously the bigger master of it but Corax is no joke at it by any stretch of the imagination) and having your best logistical expert supported by the master assassin is almost as good as the Secundus trio.
It'll actually be pretty interesting if his secret Primarch ability is Adaptability. Where he just gets stronger after every time he makes a mistake. Perhaps if he duels one of his brothers a second time the odds may be different?
Honestly Guilliman was always my favorite primarch because you know he's the only one to display common fucking sense on a near constant basis, except when pissed but even then he still is nowhere near full retard (at least I think so). That said his reaction to things around him always seemed the most realistic to me
Don’t forget that Guilliman led an army against the demons of nurgle, including seven great unclean ones and Mortarion, and personally perma-killed Septicus 7 while literally only taking a scratch. Also worth mentioning is his absolutely-Angron-level rage at his priest after that
@@poTato_777 so...if he and Sanguinius survived and led the empire post Heresy. Because Big blue was a great admin, but Big Red was the heart of the Empire, and he would have won the hearts of humanity - which is honestly half the battle.
@@galwitprifor001 tbf not sure if sanguinius could have done more good in his life than he did in his death. i think vulkan and guillinam would have done best since they both care about people they lead (for different reasons but still)
@@poTato_777 And Sanguinius didn't? There's a reason even Big Blue asked Sanguinius to be Regent - even Guilliman recognized that Sanguinius understood what the Empire had to become to guide humanity through the chaos. Had the two of them lived, the 40K Terran side would have been far better than it was now. Heck, Guilliman would have needed Sanguinius for only a few decades before the Empire could have gone on cruise control.
@@galwitprifor001 he did but what would he have done different from vulkan. had vulkan and guilliman been the case they would have had vulkan guilliman and immense love for sanguinius from people
I love this line from the Swords of Calth: 'But you didn't,' said Guilliman. 'And how can anyone say they are strong if they have never been tested? It's easy to be strong when everything is going well. It's when things go to hell that true character emerges. And though things have gone to hell a great deal around you, you have prevailed.'
"Angron was taking to long having a cry and messing about", damnit man! I spit coffee on on my keyboard. Priceless. But seriously, as fan since the late 90's the return of Guilleman was breath of MUCH needed fresh air, but not enough air. If people claim 40k is not grimdark enough it is because Guilleman has to do absolutely everything, by himself... One Primarch VS. 6 traitor legions of marines, yes Omegon is a loyalist Tyranid that are still only "scouting" the galaxy imho and OP AF Necrons who fought the Old Ones YOLO WAAAAGH's that are better and better Plus the Eldar and DA In the past you have mentioned some really great ideas to fix plot holes and create story lines, but the Corax helping to kill Lorgar is the best. And it adds another Primarch so 40k can stop making the G-man stop channeling Henry Cavill as Superman and making him do everything. The best thing about 40k is 30k. Well done, sir. Kudos.
Frankly I’m starting to think Imperium Secundus might be the only hope for humanity. Guilliman rebuilds his legion and fleets, shores up Ultramar and starts from scratch. Bellisarius Cawl being his Mechanicus sugar daddy getting him more supplies and wargear
@@willnorman-bargo can you fucking imagine that? Robot Gundam and the Aeldari forming a true alliance and working together as one unit to fuck up chaos and let the galaxy smooth the fuck out. That’s a power team. Both teams understanding how to limit chaos’ influence over them and not letting a repeat Imperium happen. The highly disciplined and structured Eldar could whip them into shape with the intelligence and strength of Gundam to lead the new empire. One of the biggest reasons the Imperium fails is because it doesn’t give a shit about it’s citizens. That’s a major hole for chaos to exploit. Make your people disciplined and content and chaos can’t exploit that as easily.
@@QixTheDS although I know game workshop wouldn't do that story idea. Because they the new imperium would be good guys, I wouldn't mind that path but I know they wouldn't do that.
@@willnorman-bargo yeah 40k would lose that special something it has. There are no true good guys, just one side vs 1000 others. I think Arch had a good analogy of this during his Siege of Vraks series. He was describing a massive, oppressive regime that throws millions of lives away purely for victory and tolerates no beliefs other than what it says, they have a single minded desire to sacrifice themselves in the name of their God Emperor and it was depressing as fuck, just before he says oh and they’re the good guys. If his channel comes back up I’ll try to find the video and time stamp cause it’s actually a really good speech.
Totally, there was a part in Dark Imperium where Guilliman just loses his cool and is swinging his father's sword around like crazy against daemons and even kills a great unclean one while going on a rage-filled tangent about how he'll lead a crusade to cleanse the warp of his kind.
When you don't have a cheesy gimmick beyond being bog-standard, you just have to make do with playing smarter, harder, and better than everyone else. Its what Ultras do.
We March For Macragge! I play UM, it's kind of weird but people always expect to lose against me, (and tbf most do), but don't seem to mind when they do, at least for the most part. Almost like, "well, it's UM, did I expect to really beat the boys in blue?" I played a guy's knights army yesterday and utterly eradicated him (Literally! I felt so guilty). But he just laughed it off and was like "hey its Ultramarines". Get a couple people making the odd jokes but secretly everybody loves Guillimans blueberries.
@@fozzilla123 Which is wierd because while I don't play tabletop, I heard people say UM are pretty balanced, being only above average. So you actually have to be good with them to have a consistent win streak.
To be fair: Angron landed in the middle of an elder raiding party and guilliman and dorn both were adopted by royal families and inherited rule of their planet
@@christianwarrior3169 best part of the book imo. Them alpha boys almost got him too. For a moment he really couldn't believe why his marines would betray him. really was stunned like a man would be... like so many kings and emperors...
@@codysing1223 fr but suddenly he started moving throwing tables calculating planning that was a really good audio book I forgot the name of it was it unremenbered empire or sum other also in another scene a space wolfs threaten Guilleman again while he is yet again unarmed lol but roboute Guilleman is ready to take down the entire pack unarmed lol I think the spacewolfs name was fafnir or something that very same spacewolf space roboutes mom from konrad curze tho it was one of my fav moments the wolfs literally rushed Kurz it was epic and ngl I kinda am not a big fan of wolfs after what they did to magnus n the thousand sons but that was a epic moment
Loved that theme of the wolves throught the heresy. Every primarch basically at one point or another had a wolf pack sent to them (the ones that made it anyways) How each dealt with them was good and very thematic. Corax sadly never got to meet the pack sent for him... they bumped into Corax's mutated sons... thinking the raven guard had turned to chaos... never been so sad for a marine. They had to become traitorous in order to protect Corax. The space wolves apparently found this out later (somehow) and they have been on rough ground since. Similar to salamanders not liking the Ravens because they used the salamanders as sacrifices in order to retreat from the dropsite massacre for like 91 days? Something insane like that.
Remember that time Guilliman cried because a bunch of Alpha Legion dudes broke his dad's iPad? ( not his father's, his dad's iPad ) I actually like that one, it shows how human he can be, despite being a Primarch.
No matter who says what, I'm always going to be a dirty Ultramarine and Guilliman fanboi. The excerpt of his revival scene is so cool, chaos is literally erupting around him and then he just unleashes. Another cool scene was where he met Uriel Ventris, it really gives you the sense of sadness and failure that Guilliman feels. But also shows that he despite who and what he is, he can be a humble leader.
"Have you heard of John Wick? He once killed a man with a pencil! A pencil !" Guilliman picks up his own pencil. "I hereby order the Indomitus Crusade. We shall conquer 40 thousand worlds!"
Guillimons greatest strength is adaptability. His tactical genius goes as far as going "this is the way to win, even if it's against my base instincts" That is why Guillimon wins, that and plot armor XD
Yes thank you for the Ultra Love. I don't get it when people says that Gman is one of the weakest Primarch. He is a warrior king after all and despite some of his brother, he trained all his life and he's always trying to polish is skills
Who ever posts smurf jokes in the comments is a Timmy and deserves to get Fulgrims "knife" shoved -down- through their throat
And yes, there is Guilliman hentai here : www.patreon.com/majorkill
Suggestion: Kayvaan Shrike video?
The guardsman who stood in front of the emperor probably had balls larger than post heresy Fulgrim
what if i like it
Very crucial question for my day's well being, why do you always call Guilaman aryan isn't it like another name for iranian? And ma boy here is clearly blonde.
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Malcador: What unique power will you give this primarch?
Emperor: A functional brain.
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Best power of all primarch
*common sense
Angron
Good thing he didnt took any rest. He didnt wanna break his momentum.
The reason Guilliman is my favorite Primarch is because both he and Horus came to the same terrible realization: That the Emperor didn't really love them and that the Astartes getting axed like the Thunder Warriors was a credible possibility. But while Horus fell to despair and ruined everything for everyone, Guilliman actually *did something constructive about it.* That's why every Ultramarine is taught civil engineering and administration, to ensure that even in times of peace his sons would have something of value to add.
Very valid reason
Guilliman, unlike many of his brothers dreamed of the time he could put away his sword and dedicate himself fully to managing and improving the Imperium through the boring but essential act of good management.
Yes, super boring stuff, but few realize how indispensable and essential knowing where the records are, what the records hold and how to properly apply them, plus having the right forms for making a company be as simple as possible matter.
In this regard, all his Ultramarines where superb administrators and he left the best in charge of multiple worlds in order to properly bring them into the fold and make them prosper.
This actually worked and 10000 years later, the planets that where conquered and later united with the Imperium aren't just the most prosperous and well managed, but extremely loyal to the Imperium.
Who knew good administration was so essential?
@@Keemperor40K "Amateurs talk of strategy; Professionals talk of logistics."
- Gen. Omar Bradley
Perturabo also dreamed of the day he could finally lay down arms and dedicate himself to building beautiful and wondrous works of architecture and engineering that would endure the test of time but, unlike Guilliman, he was too introverted and individualistic to actually pass down his desire unto his sons, and thus the only things they're good at building are fortifications and engines of destruction.
Completely wrong. The thunder warriors were murderous thugs who were all dying of super cancer. Space marines showed virtually no flaws, and trying to cull 18 space marine legions PLUS THEIR PRIMARCHS would be suicide. There was zero chance of the Emperor doing that
Totally agree with statement, except part that only Gman and Horus came to that realisation - the same can be applied to Russ, Khan and Sanguinius
Guilliman’s greatest ability is that he actually wears a fucking helmet.
Honestly I’m convinced a single semi competent sniper would be enough to kill most major characters in 40k
@@scottberry1073 Fulgrim was shot in the head with bolter and he was fine after Fabius Bile pulled out the shrapnel.
@@robertnelson9599 You ain't surviving a Vindicare's headshot. Luckily there will still be part of a torso after they shoot you.
@@robertnelson9599 How but the nonsense answer was that the round had actually missed the brain and grazed the inside of the skull. So only hitting bone and no organs. Fulgrim even commented that he'd be dead if the round had been just slightly to the left. How convenient, right?
Alpharius/Omegon : are we a joke to you?0
My favourite Guilliman moment is when he declares a piece of paper his mortal enemy, because he can't pick it up with his fuck huge gauntlets. And then has to explain to Cato that yes, Primarchs do have a sense of humour.
But I Cato Sicarius am the funniest of all, because I Cato Sicarius have followed the Emperor of Mankind and my Primarch Robot Gorilliman to the letter in all of their examples, which makes I Cato Sicarius the funniest of all Ultramarines and all other lesser Astartes legions.
@@TheOutdoorNerd hoo hoo indeed Sicarius, come closer, so i can teach you one very funny joke: what are the 3 words who make you face hit the ground?
I CAST FIST!!!!
@@toasters10101 🤣🤣
That ultra-joke flew over cat-cato's head.
Too bad he didn't say something like"Why can't they put a pen in this big ass finger? I mean I am an administrator" 😂
Guilliman is so badass that not even the Inquisition dares to question his alliance with the Eldar
I beleive the inquisition wouldn't question it anyway.
The imperium already have a bunch of little agreement with some craftworld, mostly thanks to the inquisition itself.
But would they let Imperial Guardsmen Larry screw an Eldar?
@@gorg6151 i dont think their training would even get them into a talk with one
he's the fucking son of the emperor, he would bitch slap them into oblivion.
There was literally a whole civil war because of it tho, I mean, I get what your going for and all but like...
*Bruh*
To be fair, saying Guilliman is the weakest primarch is like saying Little Boy was the weakest nuke. If it lands on you, you're going to have a shit time.
yea thats what i also thought
Also Lorgar pre Daemon Primarch is the physically weakest Primarch. See Betrayer and Vengeful spirit where other characters (Horus and Angron) comment on it.
@@Aaron-io8vw Even Lorgar seems aware of the fact that he's really weak by primarch standards (pre-ascension at least), the difference is Rotary Guillotine has an excellent grasp on tactics and can figure out how to work around his weaknesses and exploit his opponent's weaknesses. Gorgonzola can also recognize an unwinnable battle and will just choose not to fight it; on Istvaan V Lorgar choose to fight Corax even though he knew he had no hope of winning or accomplishing anything meaningful, only reason Corax didn't kill him was because Konrad rescued him. Corax had been desperately fighting for his life for hours by this point and Lorgar was still fresh to the battle and Lorgar *still* was basically useless. If Konrad had just let Corax kill Lorgar he could have been forgiven.
@@Triumph263 Rotary Gulliotine? Hope thats not Guilliman you are talking about, cause that would be some serious HERESY
@@Triumph263 To be fair, Lorgar had to choose between letting angry Corax slaughter the Gal Vorbak and his legion or facing Corax himself at the risk of getting shanked for the trouble. But yeah, that was the moment when GW revealed that Corax isn't a badass, but a total fucking badass
The Emperor, listening to Guilliman recount his battle with Fulgrim: "Did you die?"
Guilliman: "Sadly, yes. But I lived!"
Considering his depression more like
" Sadly, I lived. But yes"
I got better!
T'is but a flesh wound
Vulkan : Been there.
Majorkill enters the story :
_But he survived !
"Is your tantrum concluded, brother?" Is up there with the best sci-fi one-liners OF ALL TIME.👍
right behind "All I am surrounded by is fear. *and dead men*.
When Rogal says "Loyalty is its own reward", I was listening to it on audible and got chills lol
@@TheMOTOX85 I thought that was Lion El'Jonson
@@TheMOTOX85 Its the Lion who says that is it not?
@@davyfromthenavy4248 yes it's the lion
“Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics.” Guilliman summed up in a nutshell. Guilliman is such a formidable Primarch because he actually TRUSTS his legion to do their job, instead of insisting on always leading them from the front. He's willing to delegate responsibilities to trusted lieutenants and makes it his priority to make sure they get where they're needed and that the resources they need arrive with them. More than badass warriors, the Ultramarines are known for being EFFICIENT. Guilliman does not believe in "acceptable loses" he believes in minimizing casualties by providing his troops the tools they need to survive, and to minimize risks. There's a reason the Ultramarines still to this day are the most numerous chapter when you include all their successors, they're REALLY good at not dying cause they're REALLY good at making sure the enter battle with every possible advantage.
you know that logistics is a lart of strategy, right? the word you're looking for is 'tactics'
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 "Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics." - General Of The Army Omar Bradley, First Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Of Staff, United States Army.
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 I mean potentially but logistics is more than just an aspect of strategy.
Logistics is what makes the difference between a fierce fighting force and a force that can build an empire. Strategy and tactics allow a commander like guilleman to utilize his soldiers and fleet with maximum efficiency and minimal losses.
Logistics is what allows guilleman to not even need to be the direct strategist for every engagement. Being able to delegate command to his officers and focus on resource and reinforcement movements.
The blood angels are a good example of amazing tactics and only standard logistical coordination. They can clap armies sure but there is a reason Sanginius didn’t have an empire and Guilleman does. The blood angels don’t use their resources as effectively as the ultramarines do, and no one does logistics better the Guilleman.
Guilleman isn’t using strategy or tactics when he’s administering resource movements across a thousand planets in a dozen sectors at the same time.
Guilleman Being able to ensure his forces are sufficiently armed and supplied to wage any kind of warfare while maintains internal cohesion and efficiency is the reason his legion had one of the highest compliance numbers, running a 500 world mini empire and being one of the biggest legions all at the same time.
There’s a reason why Horus was jealous of G man.
@@DVAcme if you say so, but it's still wrong terminology
Sounds like General Ulysses S. Grant
Guilliman walking angrily across the hull of his ship, in open space, without his helmet on, roaring his fury at the Word Bearers that just betrayed him as the battle of Calth rages all around him.
It is one of the most bad ass scenes in all of the HH series of novels.
Do not fear the Warrior who only wields rage, Fear the Calm and thoughtful warrior that Rages
What HH book is that scene from anyway?
@@derigel9783 HH Know No Fear( Book 19 I think)
@@Luvias0415 Can you please check? I'm quite tight on money and time.
Would be a giga move if you would.
@@derigel9783 It is book 19
There is an old saying I love. “Boys study war. Men study logistics.”
And the thing most people forget about Guilliman is that he is a logistical monster. There is no need to be a combat beast if you never have to fight. Guilliman does not win battle through martial prowess. He wins wars before they happen.
agreed mate. people joke that they got way too much plot armor, but in reality, they're just fucking good at planning
That is some sun tzu shit
after listening to the custodes book watcher of the throne its shocking how much logistics he can handle whats the audiobook called where guiliman resurects and ownards? th
Exactly what Corvus said
and even so, from time to time he throws himself into battle just for the lols and possibly exercise
He's a politician, the scariest primarch without a doubt
No, Guilliman can't be a politician, because he actually gets things done, rather than just constantly lying, dissembling and blaming the opposition for all his failures while never actually delivering anything he has ever promised
@J. Tripper I think that happened, when he had the High Lords of Terra replaced, they tried to launch a coup against Guilliman, so they could go back to doing nothing, then right as they were giving a speech denouncing him, every single one of the plotters got simultaneously head-shot by Vindicare assassins
@J. Tripper The novel is called The Regent's Shadow
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Here, this man can explain it much better than I ever can
Nah he is more of a statesman than a politician.
@@taliawtf6944 That is probably the best way of putting it. The Hexarchy were Politicians, consumed with self interest and dogma, while Guilliman was more focused on actually saving the Imperium
Rowboat Girlyman is a badass because he did what his daddy could not. He got an eldar girlfriend.
If 40k ever has an end times and they form an ordertide, you know Girlyman and Yvraine will unify the empire and Ynnari on the spot
*daddy can't do yet.
If only Horus let Golden Dad finish the webway so he could have access to cheap eldar hookers
Father Golden actually had old guys like Eldrad as close friends.
He is true to the saying: Bros b4 hoes.
His dad said: Big tities Eldar girlfriend. Yvraine still look flat. Gulliman has only achieved half of the objective
He survived the God Blight, a disease cooked up in Nurgles own cauldron using Guillimans blood, a disease SPECIFICALLY MADE TO KILL GODS, a disease that would've killed Nurgles own btch Primarch, Mortarion, then Guilliman raided NURGLES OWN GARDEN, walked right up to Nurgles house and set the lawn on fire. So now there's this massive burn scar in Green Hell right outside Nurgles window. An eternal reminder to stay TF away from Ultramar.
Nurgle: *looking thru his metaphorical houses' windows at G-man*
G-man, surrounded by fire: "Fuck off, you no good dirty slimeball, or it's your house thats next."
NURGLE: “is it ready?… the uh, you know”
MORTARIAN: “Ohhh right, the disease, Guilliman’s disease, the disease specifically chosen to kill Guilliman…. yea no”
Source please?
@@artosekepyan4046 Godblight, book 3 in the Dark Imperium series.
Wasn't that the emperor just possessing him?
Guilliman's ability to take a devastating loss, adapt, and come back to fight even harder is very reminiscent of Rome during the Punic Wars. Fitting considering the overall theme of the Ultramarines.
Going to have to stop you there. There's nothing similar there except that both were comebacks. Occasionally you see the Romans adapt quickly, but most of the time they are simply able to keep losing long enough that they are able to adapt when other states would have just peace treatied. Look at the battles with Hannibal in the 2nd Punic War. It's literally Romans not adapting until they are on the brink of despair, panic, and possible siege of Rome; its only then they are pliant enough for Fabian to use his super adaptive strategy of.....not engaging Hannibal in field battles. In fact....the only battles that were won against Hannibal as the field commander, were battles where the Romans had Numidian cavalry. In fact, you never see Ultramar during 30K losing more than 10% of its male population after losing entire army/fleets one after another; which is what happened to Rome during the first two Punic Wars. I know you want to make this comparison work.....because of the Roman aesthetic but it doesn't.
@@Dadecorban you are just butthurt rome won
@@Dadecorban hey thats not fair,bringing in mr barca into this, that man was ..unbelievable
@@andersbengtsson8521 ^.^ I didn't bring up the Punic Wars, and you can't do that without thought of the Barcas.
Guilliman is secretly a tyranid
Before video: Vanilla Primarch.
After video: I'm here to do taxes and obliterate ass. And I am done with taxes.
Hell knowing Gilly boy he's probably already filed a probationary draft of the next 100yrs taxes
When you say obliterate ass? are we talking about Yranine or just normal ass smashing? You need to be more clear :P
@@Jdne199311 why not both?
It also wasn't mentioned in here, but when he was fighting Magnus, the blows that hit Magnus with just his fists, caused the crust of the entire moon to shake. Robot Gurlyman is a bad ass.
@@SomeGuy-qh6rw excuse me he caused the WHAT to shake now?
"When you have to murder a primarch, and you get one at your mercy, do not waste the moment answering his questions when he still has a bolter in his hand" - Gulliman to the Alpha Legionair who almost successfully assassinated him. Ladies and gentlemen, Gulliman is the primarch who got his villain into monologing.
I love that scene since it shows that the Primarchs could be killed by even a small group of space marines if the marines plan ahead and setup the scenario.
@@ShadowGhost0117 Even Angron understand that there is nothing he can do if he get surrounded by 20 marines bolter ready. Power armor or not, he will die. But killing a primarch is still a difficult job and for a well guarded primarch like Gulliman, you only have a small window of opportunity. And they missed the opportunity to finish their job. Had it been Corax or worse, Konrad, they would have been baited by their ego too. They had even quicker wits than Gulliman
Bolters can't kill Primarchs. Or you'd need a LOT of bolter rounds. They've taken tank rounds to the face and gotten bruises. (Pretty sure that was either Fulgrim or Corax) Angron was literally stepped on BY A TITAN
@@deepwinter6799 Bolters can kill primarchs, see Dorn for exaple
@@davidj3841 Dorn wasn't killed by Bolters. he was killed by a fucking ship exploding around him
Gulliman is powerful because he has the most broken ability in warhammer: not having autism
Completely OP
Loooool
It’s gotta be the one thing Emps didn’t bequeath onto Gerald Risottopan
Needs nerf
No his ability is being GW's favorite boy
Rowboat's strength is that he's probably one of the most normal, clearheaded, and "sane" people in the Imperium
Agree. Compared to the others. Lol
Common sense is a superpower in the wh40k universe
Admittedly, it’s a low bar.
Seriously, though, basic ideas of reasoning and what we see as clearheadedness, regardless of ideology, are relatively new to our culture, reestablished around the time of the Renaissance.
@@NateBperson 1: hey guys, how about instead of treating our citizens like resources, we give them an actual reason to fight for the imperium other than propaganda that does little to prepare them for battle and stop keeping the existence of 4 eldrich abominations that want to do naughty things to our souls regardless of if we know abt them or not a secret from the vast majority of our population?
Person 2: but if they know about chaos, then they’ll immediately join! You can’t hide your heresy from me, heathen.
Person 1:… they join chaos because the lie they’ve been told their whole lives was just shattered by a slaaneshi succubus with 7 cocks. Maybe if they knew from the beginning, they’d know that as good as they look, fucking demons and immortality isn’t worth eternal soul BDSM. Just a thought.
Person 2: yes inquisitor, this heretic right here. He is making far too much logical sense for this not to be heresy.
Inquisitor: yeah well you saw it so by by planet. *hits exterminatus button*
In any lore/setting I've always had a soft spot for the "I don't have to be stronger than you to beat you" characters, and that's what Guilliman is.
When Guilliman isn’t wearing a helmet: Is baby boy done having a tantrum now?
When Guilliman is wearing a helmet: OH FUCK OH SHIT
"BRO YOU DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND HE'S GOT *RED EYES* THAT'S NEVER A GOOD SI- *OH SHIT HE FOUND US AGAIN*"
@@tomgeytenbeek2207 Yeah seriously the primarchs look 100 times more intimidating when they actually wear their helmets.
Question, where are all of the other primarch helmet? Untill this point i only see guilliman, the lion, alpharius omegon, and maybe 2 of the lost primarch
@@ariza7654 Thats why these 3 lives longer. All of these 3 are know to have some common sense on the battlefield. Alpharius and Omegon do that for obvious reason: incognito. Also because wearing a balaclava would look silly.
@@minhducnguyen674 so how about our golden hawk boy?
It's all fun and games until the "nerd" throws down and impales the nearest heretic on a flaming sword.
i thought the nerd was magnus?
@@toasteroftheomnissiah1372 Rowboat is a math nerd, magnus is a book nerd
@@toasteroftheomnissiah1372 I guess they both fall into that category
@@toasteroftheomnissiah1372 magnus is a crack head.
Guilliman is a nerd, math ya know.
@@PeachDragon_ same difference
"Being a badass isn't punching someone. It is taking a punch and getting back up."
I didn't know how much I wanted to hear this after one rough year.
That came from Rocky lmao. Still fucking hits hard 💪😔
If you liked that, please check out the vid by jocko willink titled simply "good" it's on yt and probably the best motivational thing I've ever seen by a long way
@@SamzSKILLZ ay thanks man. I'll check it out! (:
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What makes guilliman so great is that he knows what he’s good at and how to use it to his advantage. This lets him punch way above his weight class by leveraging his good traits while using his intellect to negate his disadvantages.
Guilliman is the kind of guy who feels extreme rage after seeing a mathematical inconsistency in his enemies’ financial records.
lol
"YOUR TAXES ARE WRONG AND I AM ABOUT TO MAKE THE IRS LOOK LIKE A BLESSING TO YOU!"
that's funny
“Being a badass isn’t about punching someone, it’s about taking a punch and getting back up” - a good life rule
quite surprise that he didnt go full Rocky Balboa there.....
Although, punching someone after getting back up wouldn't hurt
Guilliman is the Primarch equivalent of "Work smarter, not harder"
He is the only one in 40k to do that. Thats why he is OP.
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 having common sense instantly promotes you to OP tier in 40k
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 what bout Alpharius/Omegon, Rogal Dorn?
Don't forget about Dante, or Mephiston. The Blood Angels in general are a terrifying chapter.
@@SomeGuy-qh6rw to be fair they are space vampires that can go full Angron randomly
Guilliman is one of the few primarchs with a skill set that goes beyond 'kill stuff'. That alone makes him very powerful.
Well no, pretty much all of them had that (the only one who really didn’t was Angron, maybe also Leman, every other was at least a decent politician in addition to warrior and tactician, and many were also very good craftsmen and/or engineers, not to mention outright artists).
Guilliman was the one with the best skill set in addition to being good at killing stuff though.
Agreed. With the exception of Angron, who didn't, and Alpharius Omegon because heck knows what his personal history actually is, *all* the primarchs became rulers of their homeworld.
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Guilliman was one of the few that effectively used their other skills. The rest either wasted their potential, like Perturabo being an inventor but confining himself to warfare, or used their abilities too rashly, like with Magnus ruining the webway project.
@@Alexander59059 Sure, but I’d still say on a big scale being a strategist and master diplomat/state man/manager is better than being a great inventor.
Considering the Imperium’s infrastructure regarding technology, even at that time, there is only so much that one could’ve helped the imperium through this skill, whereas being supremely efficient at legion building, very efficient conquest wise, and leaving prosperous peaceful loyal stable worlds behind you, is pretty much all you could ever hope from... Well anybody really.
And not all wasted their potential or used it rashly, Russ and Angrin has, as far as I know, pretty much rock bottom potential apart from killing stuff and conquering shit, which is the only two things they did anyway (apart from eating and drinking in Russ’s case XD).
Inventors and/or artists like Sanguinius, Fulgrim, Vulkan, or Manus also didn’t particularly waste their potential in those regards, again it’s more of a question of how widespread their impact could’ve been, and with the mechanicum around the answer is « not much ».
Add people like Dorn, or Lion, or Horus, and you just have basically less good Guilliman, with the exception of Dorn having the advantage in terms of fortification, but again there is only so far your influence can spread in that regard.
And for Corax, mortarion, Batman, etc... Well, let’s say their skill set weren’t super wide to begin with -_-
But he’s still good at the kill stuff too
G-Man is the only Primarch who doesn't have severe psychological damage. Despite all his trials, Guilliman is the only one of his brothers who managed to pull themselves together in an effort to save the galaxy, which is on the brink of collapse by the time of the Indomitus Crusade. The Lion is supposedly taking a really long nap, Corax and the Wolf gave in to their desire for revenge and abandoned their causes. For me, Guilliman is great because he refused to give in to his personal issues, rising above them, in order to render aid to a galaxy falling apart. With Sanguinius dead, Guilliman is the hero the Imperium needs.
Probably because he had a dad AND! a mother.. crazy right. xD
@@lokensicarius9347 a caring parental figure is the best defense against the chaos!
Lion coming back!
@@Irmarinenalso works in the real World.
Also Vulcan. That dude is 100% still alive just sitting on a rocking chair on a farm somewhere
Considering Guilliman ripped off one of Fulgrim's arms before his throat got sliced was a notable feat.
I like how as the art gets newer and newer, the Ultramarines look angrier and angrier. It's like they're now just getting sick of everyone's shit and have a very "fine, I'll do it myself," attitude as they essentially are taking more and more control in the Imperium and wiping out enemy after enemy.
I don't blame them, being the ONLY responsible part of the Astartes can get your nerves go crazy and especially moreso for Astartes who *are also able to administer stuff*.
They should. After all, Ultramar is the envy of all the other space sectors of the Imperium. Thanks to the enlightened rule that Guilliman had set up and has endured, the citizens have a high degree of social mobility, industry's negative externalities are kept in check, and religious dumbfuckery isn't rampant.
Don’t forget the salamanders they’re just sick of people trying to kill their little friends
@@The_Watchful_Scribe except for Eldar children
“Rub-me-off gorilla man”
That’s a new one
And best one
My fav quote of majorkill is "with a flick of his dick"
Majorkill has called him that multiple times before.
My new favourite, I am discarding Rawbooty Girlyman in favour of this one
That cracked me up.
Guilliman returning to his ship after massacring wordbearers in the void
- Almost lost my cool in there.
Out there**
Guilliman successfully defended himself against a surprise attack by the alpha legion. Without armor and in his standard day-to-day clothes. Just for that alone he's badass.
@theredditexperience1
Ultramarine captain:"Father, how did you do that?"
Gulliman:"I studied from the footage of a man from ancient Terra who mastered the ancient art of Kung Fu"
Ultramarine captain:"What is his name?"
Gulliman:"Jackie Chan, you should study it sometimes"
@theredditexperience1 man was able to dispatch multiple astartes armed with nothing but a steel chair
You did a bang-up job at making Roboute Guilliman look and sound like the chad he's supposed to be. God knows what would be happening with him now if Matt Ward was still writing for GW.
The male equivalent of Rei from the Star Wars sequel trilogy.
''Everyone can be the emperor" ? Xddddd
"he gets defeated but he comes back stronger everytime" - Big G is confirmed as a Sayan
Bobby G is Kenobi
Super Sayan Gulliman
Saiyan*
He's already got the golden hair to be a SSJ
*Sairyan
"That is what Guilliman is known for: His immaculate tax returns."
This made me sit out my tea. Well done Majorkill for hitting me with a good joke.
I’m imagining Robby getting a breather after all this crap, and then immediately points to Yvraine and is like, “Eldar. I need to speak to you in my chambers. Privately.”
Report to the Macrage's honor. We'll bang, okay?!
He's Been pent up for 10,000 years. His balls were probably as blue as his armor.
@@noxflo897 lmao ultraballs
@@justmichael468 got ultraballs alright and i don't mean the ones from pokemon LMAO 😂
Eldar, please also get Yassili, Greyfax and Celestine to meet us in my chambers for our...conference.
When Saint Celestine was fighting the Chaos Marines and saw Guillimen stood up from his stasis, she said to herself: In this battle there are no longer any deaths but only martyrs
as someone who unironically likes ultramarines beyond their meme status, i appreciate this
Hell yeah. I'm new to 40k lore, but I unironically love the Ultramarines simply because they're the poster-boy for the Warhammer 40k franchise
He was dying for thousands of years until uncle belisarius cawl came and gave him a little wakey wakey stuff so that he could Ultramarine like no other once more.
Dude needed his coffee, i can totally relate. rowboat Giblyman most relatable primarch confirmed
It was Yvraine who revived him because she wanted to experience taking a primarch's load. It was later when Cawl showed off his primaris to Girlyman
@@phantomwraith1984 It was a combo of Cawl's technomancy and Yvraine's magic
@@phantomwraith1984 well he wrecked that Eldar real real good if you know what I mean.
@@mikecampos1193 She was a dark eldar, she can take it
Key point about Guilliman as an individual, rather than a tool, is that he realised quite early on during the Great Crusade that the Big E was a pretty shitty dad, with overpowering, psychically-charged charisma, but an inability to truly empathise on a human, individual level with anyone save perhaps Malcador that exceeded even the autism of Lion el'Jonson. However, he acknowledged that his drive and the ideals Emps fought for were ultimately noble, and worth pursuing, despite the cost. Ironically, this is what led to his founding of the Imperium Secundus, which he still considers his greatest mistake 10,000 years later.
Plus, he cared about his marine to the point he organized and trained his legion so that they can move on even if he's dead. He also taught them other knowledge besides warfare so that they won't be unemployed should the crusade end. Many other primarchs love war but Gulliman actually aimed for peace. He himself picked up the hobby of collecting weapons and books. Make you wonder whether he's related to the magpies or not?
Having possible the best "childhood" helps that. Guilliman is arguably the most well adjusted Primarchs. Sure they almost all had some type of adopted families but many of them had issues with their adopted families, Mortarion and Perutabo hated their adopted families(well except for Perturabo's sister). Corvus and Angron where raised by slaves. Some of the others who had decent parental figures like Magnus and the Lion grew up on planets heavily effected by the warp, Sanguinius grew up on a radiation blasted desert filled with mutants.
Contrast to Guilliman, who grew up in Space Rome/Greece with a Father who was pretty cool and a maternal figure who is one of the most awesome normal humans in the setting(Tarasha, who told off the fucking night haunted to his face)
@@Aaron-io8vw Actually, most of them adjusted pretty well. Magnus got fucked over much later in the heresy, before that he was fine. Corax has his plant and the right mindset too, he's just unlucky during the heresy. Of course, Gulliman hit the jackpot compared to the other.
@@minhducnguyen674 Aye, Corax was always a noble soul, even during his childhood, and Magnus, pre-Heresy/Nikea fiasco was easily among the nicest of the Primarchs. Dude actively worked to avoid leaving naught but charred ruins in his legion's wake, as well as preserving and studying the lore of the various civilizations they conquered. His fall, of all the traitor Primarchs is, imo, the most tragic. All he ever wanted to do was help lift humanity into a new age.
@@zipscool Hell, even Perty had the potential for greater thing. If only emp actually appreciate inventions that's not only for war, he could have been building stuff that's even more useful than siege machines. Didn't they said the most important STC discovered was a tractor? The ability to feed trillions of people is even more useful than a siege engine. Perturabo could have been driving the Imperiums into another golden age of technology
Guilliman was also the Primarch of dad jokes.
People forget that for all his supposed sternness, he loved good jokes. Was a mama's boy. And really appreciated Aeonid Thiel, the Sergeant who was censured and helmet painted red turning it into a badge of respect once the betrayal started, who would drop theoreticals and practicals to just get things done, like pretending to be a Word Bearer and stabbing them when he got close, ignoring an invite by a Night Lord to engage in melee combat to just go Indianna Jones and shoot the dastard, decide that if he's already in trouble why the heck not mess around with all his Primarch's cool looking weaponry in his room, and calling out his Primarch on any concerns.
Well he fathered like 1mil sons over the past 10k years.
I am paraphrasing this from something I read, but there is one thing that sets Guilliman apart from his Primarch brothers: maturity. I would say that the setbacks he faced during his life has been instrumental with his character development. While many of his brothers were able to reclaim whole worlds, it came at a cost for Guilliman in the form of his adoptive father's life. When the Horus Heresy broke out, Guilliman again had to confront the failure of not being there for the Emperor when He needed them most. Being able to accept failure and learn from it is maturity in its abridged version, and this is probably the main reason why Guilliman did not crack like Horus did when confronted with the Emperor's truth. The stupid idiots shouting about how Guilliman sucks can shout all they want, but I will say Guilliman's character development was done well. Not perfect, obviously, but if that was the case, then we have no story to tell.
That is his primarch power, responsibility.
“And lorgar was the emperors deep and regrettable taste for choir boys” 💀 you can’t just randomly execute me like this every video I’m never ready for it
He's dangerous to listen to while weightlifting.
This is going to sound a bit cheesy. But I think Guilliman is more then the administrative side of the Emperor he is also his willpower.
Will and determination I'd say.
I agree, he represents his Will and determination in addition to his military and administrative genius
Lorgar even admits Guilliman has the soul of the Emperor.
And the emperor's will is the salvation of mankind , explaining him not chasing after Lorgar and instead rebuilding the imperium
Nah, thats Rogal.
“ Beware the fury of a patient man. “
Guilliman is the most powerful Primarch because he was designed to be the supreme politician
True, but you know what they say, enter that place and you cannot begin to count the ways in which you can die,
he has the coolness of the god emperor
I mean he has the unique skill of fighting with words. Most primarchs only have the brutal force option. He's a certificated roast master.
@@minhducnguyen674 I mean Lorgar was born to be the master orator but GW made him a bitch.
@@flameknightplayz2939 Even if you are good at debating, you still need your shit to make sense. And Logar book is something even Russ makes fun of.
I think the line from Know No Fear sums his beast mode up the best. "He was never a man you could warm to. He was too hard, too driven, too austere. Now he is wounded. Wounded like an animal might be wounded, wounded in a way that makes that animal... dangerous."
"If we face him, we have drawn the worst luck. He is not the strongest fighter, or the fastest, but he never gives up. He will never waver, never tilt his hand, even when backed into a corner. He gives you no opening. He is a man who beats you in the end." ~13 Assassins
The part about Corvus made me smile. I would literally pay my hard earned cash for that moment.
I would buy the book and all 3 forge world figures in gratitude.
I hope this doesn't happen
@@MrVictor1227 well no one asked you
Just when Logar is about to finish Gman off with his wierd sorcery, Gulliman point to behind Logar and say" look! " Logar says :" not gonna fall for that trick brother. Even kids know that " Then Corax appears from behind an smack him with a steel chair.
@@hrolfbjornson6666 So what? No one asked yours either. Doesn't mean we will not share it. We are on the comment section after all ;)
Guilliman is the Imperium's Chad at this moment
>Wields the Emperor's sword
>Has an Eldar Girlfriend
>10 feet
>Takes his Eldar Armour off just because he feels like it
Eldar armour
Belisarius Cawl: Angry Noises
I mean, just having Big Tiddy Eldar Girlfriend alone is already pretty damn impressive.
Bigger than 10ft but I get the point
I think he's more like nine foot three or something.
@@sonofjack6286 def tallet than that, a normal space marine is 7-8 feet a primaris round 8.5-9 feet, custodes bout 8.75-10 feet and ud say guilliman have at least 2ft on a custodes
There are a overwhelmingly large amount of what one could say character duplicates between the G-Man and Julius Caesar. If you know stuff about Julius Caesar and if you know the stuff about Warhammer 40K then y'all know what I'm trying to say....
1- Julius Caesar was not a warrior but understood the importance of a commander on the battlefield for morale.
2- Julius Caesar was rarely in favor of brash all out attack strategies when preferred a long drawn-out calculated assault
3- after decimating a population and thoroughly removing the previous governance instead of killing off the noble class integrated them into society.
Sound similar the list goes on but heck nobody even cares and nobody's even going to read this
Smurfs are space Romans, this is not a revelation.
Horus was always Caesar. They both destroyed and betrayed their countries out of lust for power and didnt save them.
well i did read it so where is my monehhh... jokes aside, i think you made an pretty interesting point here. I am relatively new to warhammer 40k (reading books and watching videos since last year). I know little to nothing about gulli but started watching a few vids about him. the greek/roman connection is relatively obvious but i didnt think about comparing him to caesar. so well done here. a stranger has once again broaden my horizon
I care!
Less like Caesar more like Auerlian restorer and savior of rome
Arguably the greatest 2 achievements of big G so far are 1, humanizing his chapter from smurfs back to ultramarines for a fair few people, and 2, not just proving the Emperor is actually still alive (state of his body be what it may) but seemingly giving him hope again as well.
When Guilliman did the Emperor’s tax returns, he found quite a few discrepancies.
To be fair being a goody two shoes in 40k is probably a good thing considering the lack of common decency in most places. Also Guilliman did one thing that earns him a gold star from me. He was able to actually make Lorgar regret/feel guilty about what he did by just glaring at him.
"you hear that angron, a whole empire"
i'd almost feel bad for angron if Kharn wasn't the better leader of the world eaters.
YEAHHHHHHH
Do primarchs have healing factors
angron is a little sewer creature never feel bad for him
But Angron can kill Guilliman and destroy his empire!
@@christiandauz3742 yeah but fuck Angron
I don't know why but majorkill has a strangely wholesome vibe in this vid
Its spaded aussie citizen tone he has .
unwholesomely wholesome
Goes with the times ;)
Ultramarines tend to bring out the best in people. ;) Courage and Honour.
The coolest thing about Guiliman is he's done a shitload of fighting and *survived* and combat wise he's a pretty low primarch. Like similar to Logar. So he punches UP very well.
I would say he is more mid tier, guillimans real strength in battle comes from his ability to wield his troops effectively and understand the strength and weakness of both his troops and enemies. He is also very flexible unlike most other primarchs who tend to be to stuck in a single facet of war.
@theredditexperience1 Fighting 2 to 1, when he's just finished destroying 2 fresh fleets with what is effectively a ragtag fleet and then later almost beating 1 Primarch (Lorgar), while fending one of the most brutal and devastating Close Combat Primarchs is a feat in and of itself.
He only retreated, when Angron became a Demon Prince and Guilliman said, time to reassess the situation.
Guilliman is genuinely OP,because of just one thing!
He’s sane.
Hopefully Guilleman will find an alarm clock to wake up the Lion. The set up a porch light on the imperium so Leeman Russ can find his way home.
Then open a window so the Sanguinor stops smacking into it and can return as Sanguinius proper. Next, make an especially dark corner of the house for Corax to slither into, right across from the fireplace for Vulkan. Last but not least is to set up a new bike and some building blocks in the garage.
@@Aredel Nah just stick you head outside and go i am the fastest.
Khan will appear
That was a good one
dude the lion and guilleman do not work well together , it take sanguinish to stop them form fighting each other last time they meet, lion is the only one to be smart enough to challenge guilleman for the lord commander posistion and the only one that have the pride to not admit guilleman is better then him in maintaining the empire and can keep people in line without killing them.
Guilliman would be better off with literally any other loyalist primarch returning. That being said.......if they could work together....they will only work together as well as the plot needs them to keep things from going too well. Since a productive Lion/Robocop duo would be fucking overpowered. If Guilliman were able to stay on Terra, and the Lion run the next crusade......it would be ridiculous. Obviously the Lion is going to come back and cause problems. Then Dorne shows up and has problems with Guilliman, and then Dorne and Guilliman makeup, and counter balance the Lion. Then the Khan comes back and is a wild card. Then Vulcan comes back and dies again. Then Leman comes back and punches Guilliman. Then Guilliman goes back to Macragge. Then the Wolf King fucks everything up. Then Guilliman orchestrates a plan to setup a bunch of mini-astronomicons guarded by the new legions, send a new legion of Primaris into the Webway led by the Custodes, and while they push into the webway, the Emperor heals himself. Then he comes off the throne but he's become insane and retarded and Vulcan has to go collect his disparate soul shards from across the Imperium. He dies alot. That gets us to 43K.
The battle around them quieted, all other clashes and fights seemed pointless now that the two Primearch's faced each other. "So this is what you've become, nothing more than a vessel for everything that our empire stood against!“ Shouted Guilliman “I have learned the truth brother, I am…...Enlightened and you can be too if you merely let yourself be educated.” Lorgar stated “There is nothing left then, anything to be said has already been. Prepare to die. Traitor!” roared Guilliman as he charged his fallen brother. Lorgar quickly reacted by swinging Illuminarum, sending it crashing into Guilliman’s left shoulder pauldron, reeling from the strike Guilliman stands his ground, grabbing the shaft of Illuminarum pushing it to the side using the opening to place an elbow strike into Lorgar’s face. As he staggered backwards from the attack Gullimen raises his sword to slash as his brother, ripping his mace away from Gullimen’s grasp Lorgar raised his hand towards Gullimen, with a great blast of psychic might Gullimen was sent hurtling, as his feet make contact with the floor he digs in to stop himself, he looks ahead to see Lorgar swinging Illuminarum upwards towards his head, Robute quickly deflects the blow with his sword but with his momentum Lorgar brings Illuminarum into the air to bring down upon his brothers skull. Gullimen steps out of the blow just in time as Illuminarum collides with the floor shattering where it hit, in but a split second Roboute slices through Lorgar’s right arm, cutting it clean off of him. “ARGHHHHHH!” Lorgar hollowed in pain has Gullimen kicks his chest, knocking him on his back. “Brother it is not too late!, you can still be enlightened to the truth of our existence if you would just-” “Enough” seethed Gullimen as he raised his blade to end the corrupted primarch, but as his blade began to fall, Lorgar raised his arm and with another psychic boom froze Gullimen where he stood. “One day Robute, one day you shall be enlightened and join us.” Lorgar stated as he opened a portal behind him “but until that day please tell our dear father that I sai-” he paused noticing something on the peripheral of his vision “I told you i’d never stop hunting.” was all he heard before dozens of black talons pierced his back all the way through his chest. Gullimen now free walks up to his brother before raising his blade and with a grim look saying “Goodbye Lorgar” and decapitating the first heretic and killing him once and for all.
There u go majorkill. Also GW "WIRITE THAT DOEN, WRITE THAT DOWN"
@@thebossbrothers123 thx m8!
I legit thought it was a quote from some novel. Good shit!
I literally want that to be how Corvus Corax returns. It doesn’t have to have Lorgar die at that moment (although I would prefer that) but still have Guilliman and Lorgar fighting and have Corax just appear out of nowhere like the master assassin he is.
Guilliman and Corax would be a cool combo to see in modern 40k. Both are great at diplomacy (Guilliman is obviously the bigger master of it but Corax is no joke at it by any stretch of the imagination) and having your best logistical expert supported by the master assassin is almost as good as the Secundus trio.
I legitimately thought this was from a novel! Well done! This should definitely be how the final reckoning between Roboute and Lorgar plays out.
“You hear that Angron? A whole empire” lol
Angron should have been aborted
First proper laugh of the year, and I've seen myself in the mirror.
@@theholyrussian
Blame Erebus
@@randomblacktemplar738 that damn Erebus, the one who f*cked everything up...
Roboute's intelligence, willpower and humanity is what made me love this Primarch and his sons! He is basically Batman in blue!
It'll actually be pretty interesting if his secret Primarch ability is Adaptability. Where he just gets stronger after every time he makes a mistake. Perhaps if he duels one of his brothers a second time the odds may be different?
"Amateur's study tactics, professionals study logistics" General Bradley. Guilliman embodies this doctrine.
"Looking at you rogal!'
Valrak heart just broke
Honestly Guilliman was always my favorite primarch because you know he's the only one to display common fucking sense on a near constant basis, except when pissed but even then he still is nowhere near full retard (at least I think so). That said his reaction to things around him always seemed the most realistic to me
Don’t forget that Guilliman led an army against the demons of nurgle, including seven great unclean ones and Mortarion, and personally perma-killed Septicus 7 while literally only taking a scratch. Also worth mentioning is his absolutely-Angron-level rage at his priest after that
The best part of Girlymans resurrection is when he casually punts a chaos terminator through a stone pillar
The Imperium would have conquered the galaxy with 20 Guillimans.
Or 2
@@poTato_777 so...if he and Sanguinius survived and led the empire post Heresy. Because Big blue was a great admin, but Big Red was the heart of the Empire, and he would have won the hearts of humanity - which is honestly half the battle.
@@galwitprifor001 tbf not sure if sanguinius could have done more good in his life than he did in his death. i think vulkan and guillinam would have done best since they both care about people they lead (for different reasons but still)
@@poTato_777 And Sanguinius didn't? There's a reason even Big Blue asked Sanguinius to be Regent - even Guilliman recognized that Sanguinius understood what the Empire had to become to guide humanity through the chaos. Had the two of them lived, the 40K Terran side would have been far better than it was now. Heck, Guilliman would have needed Sanguinius for only a few decades before the Empire could have gone on cruise control.
@@galwitprifor001 he did but what would he have done different from vulkan. had vulkan and guilliman been the case they would have had vulkan guilliman and immense love for sanguinius from people
Roboute "I've about had it with these fucking traitors" Guilliman
That last bit. Corvus and guillman killing Lorgar together. Oh yes please. Epic idea
I love this line from the Swords of Calth: 'But you didn't,' said Guilliman. 'And how can anyone say they are strong if they have never been tested? It's easy to be strong when everything is going well. It's when things go to hell that true character emerges. And though things have gone to hell a great deal around you, you have prevailed.'
"Angron was taking to long having a cry and messing about", damnit man! I spit coffee on on my keyboard. Priceless.
But seriously, as fan since the late 90's the return of Guilleman was breath of MUCH needed fresh air, but not enough air. If people claim 40k is not grimdark enough it is because Guilleman has to do absolutely everything, by himself...
One Primarch VS.
6 traitor legions of marines, yes Omegon is a loyalist
Tyranid that are still only "scouting" the galaxy imho and OP AF
Necrons who fought the Old Ones
YOLO WAAAAGH's that are better and better
Plus the Eldar and DA
In the past you have mentioned some really great ideas to fix plot holes and create story lines, but the Corax helping to kill Lorgar is the best. And it adds another Primarch so 40k can stop making the G-man stop channeling Henry Cavill as Superman and making him do everything.
The best thing about 40k is 30k.
Well done, sir. Kudos.
I thought I would find Papa smurf memes in this video but I found something way better.
The Major has positioned himself against the fucking retarded Ultramarines=Smurf meme multiple times
But it's, papa Smurf. Not just any other one.
Grandpa Blue
I'm the mad lad that converted you to Blood Bowl, glad you liked it!!
Guilliman's willpower shut down Skarbrands aura of Rage. That is impressive
Theory he is the emperor's backup plan, he case the emperor ever died the big blue guy could still keep humanity save.
Frankly I’m starting to think Imperium Secundus might be the only hope for humanity. Guilliman rebuilds his legion and fleets, shores up Ultramar and starts from scratch. Bellisarius Cawl being his Mechanicus sugar daddy getting him more supplies and wargear
@@QixTheDS I would be a interesting what if 50k the last of human and the elder starting a new crusader under him.
@@willnorman-bargo can you fucking imagine that? Robot Gundam and the Aeldari forming a true alliance and working together as one unit to fuck up chaos and let the galaxy smooth the fuck out. That’s a power team. Both teams understanding how to limit chaos’ influence over them and not letting a repeat Imperium happen. The highly disciplined and structured Eldar could whip them into shape with the intelligence and strength of Gundam to lead the new empire. One of the biggest reasons the Imperium fails is because it doesn’t give a shit about it’s citizens. That’s a major hole for chaos to exploit. Make your people disciplined and content and chaos can’t exploit that as easily.
@@QixTheDS although I know game workshop wouldn't do that story idea. Because they the new imperium would be good guys, I wouldn't mind that path but I know they wouldn't do that.
@@willnorman-bargo yeah 40k would lose that special something it has. There are no true good guys, just one side vs 1000 others. I think Arch had a good analogy of this during his Siege of Vraks series. He was describing a massive, oppressive regime that throws millions of lives away purely for victory and tolerates no beliefs other than what it says, they have a single minded desire to sacrifice themselves in the name of their God Emperor and it was depressing as fuck, just before he says oh and they’re the good guys. If his channel comes back up I’ll try to find the video and time stamp cause it’s actually a really good speech.
a brotha really skipping class and watching majorkill.
bruh
Shutcthe fuck up. How did u know
Same
Smh
Lmao School’s over over here
I’m cool with Gulliman, he gives the Xenos more love than GW. GW has become the new Matt Ward due to only producing Space Marines now.
I always admired Roboute for his cunning and ability to stay cool under pressure, I was not expecting this
I love most of the primarchs, but Sanguinius will always be my favorite.
Dorn, Guilliman, Corvus, Magnus, and Vulkan are definitely up there, though.
That Corvax/Lorgar/Guiliman scene would be insane! Really hoping that happens now.
I think all primarchs are capable of transcendental rage if they allow it
Except Timmy, the Lost Primarch.
@@exurgemars he was "lost" by the emperor...
Totally, there was a part in Dark Imperium where Guilliman just loses his cool and is swinging his father's sword around like crazy against daemons and even kills a great unclean one while going on a rage-filled tangent about how he'll lead a crusade to cleanse the warp of his kind.
@@sonofjack6286 the audio book version was great with him rage screaming for mortarion. It made tribune colquan (sp?) Concerned.
The ultramarines are valid, and if you play them, courage and honour to you
Don't listen to the haters. They just jelly
When you don't have a cheesy gimmick beyond being bog-standard, you just have to make do with playing smarter, harder, and better than everyone else. Its what Ultras do.
We March For Macragge! I play UM, it's kind of weird but people always expect to lose against me, (and tbf most do), but don't seem to mind when they do, at least for the most part. Almost like, "well, it's UM, did I expect to really beat the boys in blue?" I played a guy's knights army yesterday and utterly eradicated him (Literally! I felt so guilty). But he just laughed it off and was like "hey its Ultramarines".
Get a couple people making the odd jokes but secretly everybody loves Guillimans blueberries.
@@fozzilla123 Which is wierd because while I don't play tabletop, I heard people say UM are pretty balanced, being only above average. So you actually have to be good with them to have a consistent win streak.
@@minhducnguyen9276 Thanks! I'll take that as a compliment. 😁
To be fair: Angron landed in the middle of an elder raiding party and guilliman and dorn both were adopted by royal families and inherited rule of their planet
Sanguinius landed on a radioactive desert planet with barely any food, water, or resources and managed to turn it into an empire.
@@Aredel Sanguinius is an exception. The reason he is so great because if he was a little less strong willed he would’ve turned traitor.
Looks at the lion that spent his childhood hunting chaos beasts in a forest
@@logandelaharpe6362Angron had a bad experience with society, Lionel had no experience with it. It's not quite an orange to orange comparison.
Everyone's gangsta until you kick over Guilliman's perfectly organized sandcastle city.
That sounds more like Rogal. Guilliman would lose his shit if you pushed over his stack of files.
@@Aredel Knowing Rogal, he'd nail some rebars in his sand castle to see how pretty your toes gonna look after kicking it.
Please mention the fight where hes just at home chilling with robes on... and he faces down an entire squad of "Ultramarines"
I am alpharius ; fr lol roboute really whooped those alpha legionaries ass lol he's a badass no doubt
@@christianwarrior3169 best part of the book imo.
Them alpha boys almost got him too.
For a moment he really couldn't believe why his marines would betray him.
really was stunned like a man would be... like so many kings and emperors...
@@codysing1223 fr but suddenly he started moving throwing tables calculating planning that was a really good audio book I forgot the name of it was it unremenbered empire or sum other also in another scene a space wolfs threaten Guilleman again while he is yet again unarmed lol but roboute Guilleman is ready to take down the entire pack unarmed lol I think the spacewolfs name was fafnir or something that very same spacewolf space roboutes mom from konrad curze tho it was one of my fav moments the wolfs literally rushed Kurz it was epic and ngl I kinda am not a big fan of wolfs after what they did to magnus n the thousand sons but that was a epic moment
Loved that theme of the wolves throught the heresy.
Every primarch basically at one point or another had a wolf pack sent to them (the ones that made it anyways)
How each dealt with them was good and very thematic.
Corax sadly never got to meet the pack sent for him... they bumped into Corax's mutated sons... thinking the raven guard had turned to chaos... never been so sad for a marine.
They had to become traitorous in order to protect Corax.
The space wolves apparently found this out later (somehow) and they have been on rough ground since.
Similar to salamanders not liking the Ravens because they used the salamanders as sacrifices in order to retreat from the dropsite massacre for like 91 days? Something insane like that.
I’m imagining he’s just in a dressing gown, half asleep with a cup of coffee that says ‘best dad’ on it as he choke slams the “ultramarines”
Remember kids, your primarch is good, but Sanguinius is better.
unless you're primarch is sanguinius then its sanguinius being better then sanguinius
Isn't he kinda dead tho?
Even though i like Bobby G
SANGUINIUS is much better
By his blood are we made!
@@coalitionofrob436 By HIS BLOOD
Remember that time Guilliman cried because a bunch of Alpha Legion dudes broke his dad's iPad? ( not his father's, his dad's iPad )
I actually like that one, it shows how human he can be, despite being a Primarch.
No matter who says what, I'm always going to be a dirty Ultramarine and Guilliman fanboi. The excerpt of his revival scene is so cool, chaos is literally erupting around him and then he just unleashes. Another cool scene was where he met Uriel Ventris, it really gives you the sense of sadness and failure that Guilliman feels. But also shows that he despite who and what he is, he can be a humble leader.
"Have you heard of John Wick? He once killed a man with a pencil! A pencil !"
Guilliman picks up his own pencil. "I hereby order the Indomitus Crusade. We shall conquer 40 thousand worlds!"
*3 men (in a bar!)
YeY it's my Dad
"STFU Ultra Smurph."
"Krieg Rules."
Hello Sicarius tell your father I'm coming to finish the job
@@malekiththeeternityking5433, Do you want me to call up Rylanor?
@@malekiththeeternityking5433 like the way Slaanesh finished all over your face?
Guillimons greatest strength is adaptability. His tactical genius goes as far as going "this is the way to win, even if it's against my base instincts"
That is why Guillimon wins, that and plot armor XD
Yes thank you for the Ultra Love. I don't get it when people says that Gman is one of the weakest Primarch. He is a warrior king after all and despite some of his brother, he trained all his life and he's always trying to polish is skills
I mean they ignore that Lorgar before the Heresy was the weakest Primarch.
@@perfectprince8062 lorgar was a lil b*tch always was and always will be
Alternate tittle for this video is basically roasting lorgar and angron for 13 minutes
Which Primarch could eviscerate me with their pinky? Um, all of them?
To me, it sounds like the 20 Primarks all had The potential to be good at everything. One of them just had a more open mind