Disney's Forgotten TRON Sequel is Shockingly Great
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- Don't feel bad that you missed out on the forgotten official TRON sequel that came out 7 YEARS before TRON: Legacy! In today's episode we go all the way back to the early 2000's and explore the history of one of Disney's most experimental and ambitious franchise follow-ups.
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Don’t forget “Tron Uprising”, a single season TV show from 2012, well worth a look with a good story too.
The TV series Tron uprising was a masterpiece too, shame that Disney cancelled the show after one season.
Yeah it was so good, deserved a few more seasons to really fill out the lore.
And i depise Disney for cancelling the show. Now i despise the Disney company for everything it does.
@@MAXXWORXdisney hates money
I was lucky enough to beta test this game. Two light cycle bugs I remember, at first you could summon the light cycle anywhere in the level. It was just a check that was missing but it was a great way to cause a little mayhem. You were of course only supposed to do that in the arena, and when you did, you ended up upside down playing under the map. A super rare bug was the bit would lose it's trail, making it hard to find. That was a fun time, and they treated us very well. The only sad thing was we didn't get our names in the credits. Thanks for bringing back these memories!
Awesome! Thanks for sharing and I’m so glad you enjoyed this!
this needs more upvotes and i will remember you @g3-is-me
Hope the Living Dead System Operators (LDSO) fixed those with their incredible Killer App Mod patch.
Original composer Wendy Carlos also came back for this. Her music is integral to the vibe. To this Old, Tron 2.0 feels more like a sequel than Legacy.
Absolutely true!
It definitely feels like more a sequel but daft punk in legacy fits tron better in my opinion.
I thoroughly enjoyed Tron 2.0 . The music was great, the feel was right, the disc upgrades were a neat addition, and if you were slick enough there are lots of secrets to be found and hidden. You can actually parkour to places that are a lot more polished but definitely umused/unfinished areas. Didn't even have to use cheats, you can literally just work your way around to side corners that literally have no reason for being there. entire rooms and areas that are beautiful, and definitely thought out, yet unused.
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OMG that sounds so beautiful. Now I MUST own it someday to see this & hopefully take screenshots.
Fun Fact from the 80s - TRON stands for "TRACE ON", and set the MS BASIC interpreter into a debug mode.
That IS a fun fact! Thanks so much for sharing!
No it doesn’t 😂
That rumor was debunked decades ago.
@@homersenemy7105 if you don't have a better answer, ..it is.
@@homersenemy7105 He's right. Old IBM XTs had TRON and TROFF keys as function keys on their keyboards. Trace On and Trace Off respectively. These are the 8086 and 8088 models. I don't remember them on the IBM AT models that came later which were 80286 based or better.
other other fun fact: the character of tron was originally a hand drawn animation that was used as a demo that then got sold to several radio stations, it featured a neon guy throwing then smashing two disks of light toghether to create the word "tron" infront of it between its hands. the radio station ads would feature the exact same animation with the word replaced with their radio station name/ title / whatever thing in place of the word "tron"
The graphics of TRON 2.0 were state of the art at the time as well, its effects looked really impressive and very much in the style of TRON. The soundtrack is fantastic as well, modern, but it had more in common with the original music than the (also great) Legacy soundtrack. Also the soundtrack dynamically changes according to what is happening in the game.
I play Tron 2.0 frequently (thanks to the dedicated fans who still write patches for modern systems) because the story is fun and feels like a organic evolution. The world and soundtrack are still holding up today. I was really bummed when Tron Legacy never even mentioned the events and that the character of Jet Bradley was absent. Tron is an underused IP with endless possibilities, but the idiots at Disney will ride Star Wars, Indiana Jones and the others beyond death before they will recognize what treasure they have in the basement. 😢
Tron 2.0 was a really fun game.
I still have it in my old CD-Rom video game carry case(along with my Battlefield II CD)
Very repetitive
I love the whole tron aesthetic and vibe. One of my favorite victional worlds
Yup., Tron 2.0 is STILL one of my favorite games ever. Because it perfectly acts as a sequel while creating something original and also continuing to tell the story of the original '82 Tron movie. EVERYTHING about the game was amazing. The immersion, the design and also the Sounds and Music. I just didn't like that the Lightcycle races were mandatory but the Killer App fan-patch made it skippable at least. I just love the glowing neons of the digital world of TRON. And when the game came was announced back then i was SOOOO looking forward to finally dive into the Grid. I remember i had to sadly turn down a lot of the effects on my old gaming PC back then as the glow was massively sucking performance :P THIS game still has a BIG place in my heart. Just as Monolith Productions with their amazing games.
I still have a physical copy of this game and will never give it up.
Same here. It is a real gem of a game.
Tron has been a large part of my life. I have loved it since I saw it in theaters. I have the full size arcade game, as well as the environmental version of Disc's of Tron as well as all the video games. I still love Tron 2.0, and have it installed in all of my computers and play them every now and then. Thank you for this video!
So jealous! :-) Invite the rest of us over to play some time, eh? :-)
Tron 2.0 was great, I played after watching the original movie in preparation for the release of Legacy and its prequel game "Evolution". Miss this franchise so much.
Your recap of the original movie is wonderfully accurate and concise! Fastest primer on TRON lore one could hope for.
Thanks so much!
Oh, how I wish Tron Legacy had kept the same vibrant aesthetic that Tron and Tron 2.0 did. There was color! and wonky architecture, and light. Tron Legacy was gorgeous, but it was mainly dark and blue.
Nice to see some appreciation for a true classic.
Tron 2.0 was such a fun game. It has so many interesting mechanics, and did a good job with the feel of the original film.
Tron 2.0 was a perfect sequel to the original movie with an amazing soundtrack, was so stoked when Steam and GOG got the game back on the market.
Tron 2.0 is awesome, I still play it to this day.
i can't believe you missed "TRON UPRISING", a perquel to the legacy film, i guessed if part of cannon and i think it is, is sandwiched in between 2.0 and legacy, check it out.
I loved Uprising and was so disappointed that it didn't get another season. Felt like it didn't quite fit with this video. Might touch on it in a future one, though.
Funny... this game box is standing right on my shelf. I really loved "TRON 2.0" - great game from a great game company (at the time). Let's not forget that Monolith made "No One Lives Forever"... one of the greatest fps games of all time! It's a crime that this franchise hasn't been rebooted yet...
Tron 2.0 is an AMAZING game. Still holds up after 21 years.
Loving the movie since a kid, the game was a dream come true. It truly felt like stepping into the world of Tron both when it comes to visuals and sound. The gameplay was also top notch, leveldesign was great and extremely versed. I can't stop yapping about how amazing that game was and i regularly keep replaying it. Btw it's cheap to get on GOG!
though i should add: this game would really benefit from a remaster.
I still have that game in CD form, and the box for it too! Such a great game worth a reply every so often, and with some of the recent modifications for it, it definitely bumps it up to 1080 standards.
The main thing I appreciate is that quite a few fans have brainstormed ways to force 2.0 back into being canon without completely discrediting Legacy. They're surprisingly not as mutually exclusive as you'd think! For example, Tron himself is missing from 2.0... because he was transferred to Flynn's Grid (and became Rinzler). There's also a major plot point that it took 20 years to recreate digitizing tech (since the only reason it worked was the MCP was correcting the incoming data, a role Ma3a was designed to replace), yet Flynn was able to hop in and out just fine on his own private Grid in the meantime... because he had already been digitized once and "his pattern was cached", so until the correction algorithms were created, no one else _could_ safely be digitized besides him, which is why he never tried to bring anyone else with him (though this does make one wonder how said algorithms got transferred to Kevin's Grid, a fully isolated system, in time for Sam to be digitized... maybe the existence of the Isos caused it to work even after their near-extinction?). It does require a few creative liberties with the timeline, but it's fully possible to have 1.0, 2.0, and Legacy be a coherent _trilogy_ of stories, as they always should have been 👍
Tron legacy was one of the best theater experiences I have ever had it was so amazing in 3D on a huge screen
I loved this game and it deserves so much respect because it basically revived the franchise ( or at least kept the heart beating).
I wish they would release a remastered version with updated graphics and engine.
Dude. The part with old yeller made me spit my dang drink out. LOL
Love that game so much. I felt like it never got the publicity it deserved.
I love 2.0 so much. It fleshed out the world nicely. Really made me feel like I was in a breathing living digital world. I would just walk around for the sake of being there. Especially loved the world inside the handheld computer.
F-Con's plan for using human-digitization was a far better back plot than anything in Tron Legacy. Tron 2.0 also had a much better use of computer puns for characters and environments. Tron Legacy barely felt like it was an anthropomorphic computer world, and seemed more like an alt-Earth. The worst part of Legacy was trying to believe that an emergent AI or more than one could properly execute on an old pizzabox Sparc 4 from the 90's.
Disagree. Clu’s plan makes sense, hell Tron Legacy being more grounded and darker fits the tone of how Clu’s a tyrant.
thanks for covering this. it always bugs me when people mistakingly call Tron: Legacy "tron 2", it was never meant to be a sequel and people should never have assumed that it was a sequel!
just cause it takes place in the same universe, people need to stop assuming things are sequels or prequels LOL
I know Hollywood has made a habit of making nothing but sequels, prequels, and reboots/remakes; but not every movie in the same setting as the original has to follow those rules.
pretty sure that 'movie played in the same universe with the same ACTOR' means 'sequel', bro
But it is a sequel 😂
Tron Legacy IS a Sequel. It always is
Greatest movie rental night of all time for me involved this movie and Enter the Dragon with Bruce Lee.
it's sad they ignored 2.0, 'cause the developers made 2.0 to be canon with a third that followed. hollywood has very little follow-through.
Definitely would have been interesting to see what would have become of the TRON franchise if Disney had gone with their original plan.
I had the privilege of working at Monolith right as this game was shipping (so I didn't get to actually work on it). Great place. Fun fact - most of the Tron team went on to make Condemned: Criminal Origins which is... quite a bit different.
Woah, that’s awesome! I remember playing Condemned when it came out on 360, but I have zero recollection of the game itself.
I worked on this game at Monolith at the time. What he's not telling you is production messed up big time and to get the game done we had to do mandatory crunch for 4 months to get it finished, we loved the game but had to be one of the hardest launch ever... that was until Matrix...
Awesome - thanks so much for sharing! Having spent a decade in game development myself, wish I could say that crunch wasn't the norm throughout much of the industry...
Well I thank you and the rest of the team at the time for making a game that changed my childhood for the better😊
I still play it from time to time, still love it!
Tron 2.0 is still my favorite and most played FPS and in my point of view the sequel to the original movie that I love.
2.0 also made me look to this game genre as a whole and opened a new world for me.
Thanks Monolith! I owe you my better part of my childhood😁
My god, i feel the same love i have for tron in this videos. The quality of production of this video is just amazing.
Much appreciated!
I loved the old arcade box for TRON, but never knew about this. I would have jumped on it had I knew it existed.
Oh man No one lives forever was such a dope game, i must have played tron 2.0 all that footage looks so familiar
True story! I'd pay so so so much money for No One Lives Forever 1 + 2 remasters...
@@theothervault at the time it had all those groovy austin powers vibes, very fun games, i would love to revisit them as well
Dude, the production value of your videos is OFF THE HOOK!
Thanks! Learned from the best!
I got to meet Bruce Boxleitner in 2015 .. I chatted with him at length about Babylon 5 and Tron .. and especially Tron 2.0. That was my jam back in the day. Brilliant game, great music score and in my mind was the REAL sequel. Tron legacy is ok .. but it’s the third film in my mind.
Tron 2.0 was fire!
Hell yeah. Tron 2.0 was probably my fav game of that year. The setting was awesome and clever, the level in a shitty PDA device with limited memory was a great example of that.
I had this game on PC and it was well worth playing
Agreed - Wish I would have played it when it first came out!
I've wanted to step into that world since I was a kid. I can't believe that no one has done a proper Tron VR game or experience yet...
TRON 2.0 is indeed a fine game. I gave it to my nephew for Christmas a couple years back and he absolutely loved it.
The story is far, far better and more interesting than the story of TRON: Legacy. It's depressing to think that all the action of TRON: Legacy happens in a single minicomputer the size of a desk. In TRON 2.0, computer networks are a thing, and you travel from computer to computer. Competing corporations have figured out that ENCOM found a way to send people into computers, and are trying to re-create it, but their inferior technology has copying errors that turn people into mutant monsters! I love it! Even better, governments found out, and have successfully duplicated the technology, so they can send spies _into_ the computers to find secret data. And there's at least one level where government spies are in the computer with you and want to silence you.
Best of all, my favorite level: someone in the real world knows you are in the computer and wants to kill you, so they initiate a disk format operation. In the TRON world, this is shown as a whirling wall of destruction that is sweeping across the level. If you touch this wall, you die, and it is making the level smaller and smaller. You have to fight your way to a network port and leave that computer before the disk format completes. Thematically perfect for a TRON-based first person shooter game.
It's true that as an FPS it doesn't transcend the FPS genre. But it's a perfectly good FPS and the story is great.
I really wish that TRON: Legacy had used the story from TRON 2.0.
There’s another comment saying that Tron Legacy was more connected to the Flynn Family, while Tron 2.0. Is connected to Alan.
I prefer Tron Legacy, as that film did exactly what Tron 2.0. Did, but better.
Not that Tron 2.0. Is bad, but it was a step in the right direction for what Disney would do to the franchise.
In my opinion, Tron 2.0. Could walk, so that Tron Legacy could run.
LOVED TRON 2.0 .. still have that game today.
I loved this game. I built my own computer just to play it. The verses competitive online play was fun as Hell!
That game was awesome! I bought it the moment I saw it in the stores. Soo much fun
You forgot to mention that in 2003 everyone on the PS2, who had the network adapter was playing SOCOM US Navy SEALs!!!
I just always knew that you guys would be here to catch me
I remember the count-down website they made to hype 2.0, and I was disappointed when it ended and it turned out to not be a movie.
When Legacy finally came out, I was telling my friends this was the sequel I've been waiting for since I was fifteen. I did buy the game, but oddly forgot to install it... must dig up... yeah, that's how excited I was about it.
We need more TRON
TRON 2.0 is still one of my favorite games, and my top FPS sort of game. It nailed the design and visuals, and the story was even above average. I wish the IP was in the hands of people who could treat it right.
A nice place to see a nod to Tron 2.0 in in Kingdom Hearts 2’s Space Paranoids world. The story is based on Tron 2.0, as well as the new original outfits for the characters, even the super light cycle is featured. They don’t name drop Jet or anything as far as I can remember but you can see how they integrated it and it’s fun to pick up the Easter eggs.
Tron 2.0 was a great game. I'm still waiting for someone to make a VR mod for it.
I recently dug this game out and gave it to my brother as he had a sense of nostalgia and wanted to play it again.
TRON 2.0 is fantastic. Played the hell out of it when it came out way back when.
This is one of my favorite games of all time, and as someone for whom TRON served as my gateway into sci-fi as a kid, definitely feels to me more like the 'true' sequel. Wonderful to see it getting some love here!
I remember having a lot of difficulty getting my hands on a copy when it came out. I really liked the game once I finally did get a copy.
I haven't finished your video, but your intro was spot on to get us interested and intrigued. Well done!
Thanks! Hopfully the rest of the video lives up to the hype!
Imagine one day... a virtual reality tron game. Parts of the game are "in the real world " where you are trying to break in to the lab that has equipment to zap you into the computer universe... and then the 2nd world is the actual virtual computer world. And events in the "real world" have an impact on your adventures in the virtual world (i.e. one real world mission is to destroy a lab, that has some servers, but in the virtual world that area is now missing)
HOW am I just now discovering your channel? :D Great stuff, dude.
Thanks so much! So happy to hear that you’re enjoying everything!
Ahh, I remember this one. I was worried when I switched to Win7, but it worked just fine on it. Best thing I can say about Tron 2.0 is that it perfectly emulated the feel of the original movie, only better. Only thing that bugged me about the game is that if you "fell" more than a meter (no seriously, about a meter in-game) you derezzed instantly. No matter how many levels you had gained (or "build levels" I think they were called.) Anyway, other than that gripe, the game was a joy to play.
This drove me NUTS when I was playing. The 1st person platforming in general is pretty rough (but totally of the time)
Really enjoyed playing it back in the day. I was aware of Tron, but actually had not seen the movie before playing the game. Definitely went to watch it after completing the game.
it really makes me sad that Tron's character specifically didn't get any screen time or development. Bruce Boxleitner put a lot of heart into the character in Tron Uprising and I sincerely hope he finally gets the opportunity to do that in Ares.. because I mean, the name of the franchise after all is Tron XD
Nice video! All these years later I'm still mad at the light cycle AI in that game, such a stain on an otherwise good game. I found the best strategy in the single player light cycle levels was just to avoid them at all costs. They could pull off in human moves and reaction times, but also had a habit of boxing themselves into their own light trails if given enough time. I'm pretty sure the light cycles were designed for multiplayer, and Disney forced them to shoehorn light cycle levels into the single player campaign.
TRON: Legacy never made sense when Flynn says "He wondered what the grid would look like, and one day, I got in" - Surly he would remember the events from the first TRON? 😕
That's what the quote is referring to.
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To me this is the real TRON sequel, as it kept the visual language and computer themes of the original far better than Legacy did. In fact 2.0 was everything a sequel should be, as it built directly on everything in the original and expanded it in logical but imaginative ways. It really feels like you're seeing the same world, just more of it than we visited the first time, and it flows together seamlessly. The only bad part of 2.0 for me was when it ended and there wasn't any more.
AMEN
Speaking of Disney using video games to test out the waters of a franchise, there's always Treasure Planet: Battle at Procyon, which I feel is a forgotten gem.
That’s a good one! Treasure Planet as a whole is pretty underrated.
LOL - I immediately logged in to comment that the REAL sequel to Tron was the Tron 2.0 game... only to then watch the video and find out that's what you were talking about.
Great minds think alike!
I have always had a soft spot for live action Disney-branded properties that are geared toward older kids and/or adults. Of course Tron. But there are a lot of these. Pirates Of The Caribbean is one more modern example. Jungle Cruise is another one. It might not be as good but it definitely is part of that legacy. No pun intended. Other examples include The Rocketeer, The Black Hole, Hocus Pocus, Return To Oz, Bedknobs And Broomsticks, and The Watcher In The Woods. It's kind of hard to define exactly what does and does not qualify but you know it when you see it
TRON 2.0 is forgotten? This game s the only reason I ever learned about the franchise existing in the first place! The game was sooo much fun to play tho!
That’s why I’m trying to get the word out!
I never even knew this existed I thought the second movie was really good . The animated one they made was awesome
I played this around the time it came out and at least one other time since and even then it held up. It does some really cool stuff. Now I kind of want to play it again.
Tron Legacy does canonically happen after Tron 2.0, has the same voice actors, same writers, same composer too, effectively making it a sequel, despite being a video game; While Legacy (That is why Legacy isn't called Tron 2 and Tron 2.0 is Tron 2, Legacy is Tron 3 - Legacy gives us a reason Flynn wasn't there.) follows Flynn, 2.0 followed Alan. 2.0 came out during the halcyon days of Disney games when gems such as Kingdom Hearts came out. All of the Disney video games of that time period were absolutely awesome, most being children's games, didn't take away from the fact they were all good. And I'll tell you why, because Disney had no involvement other than carefully choosing who made them, they handed out their licences to game developers who are either massive fans or well known for crafting games of that genre.
Tron Legacy was going to be tied to this game originally, but Disney corporate politics got in the way (I mean they had a new CEO take over, the current one) and the movie was put on hold for years till eventually those who ended up being put in charge of making it were not even aware the game existed and when they found out about it, wrote it off as unimportant and that it wouldn't be a good idea to base the movie around a game they think most of the audiences of the movie have never played and never will, despite the script being originally written to be a sequel to this game.
Also you're right about the weapons, apparently those were all just tacked on to appease to FPS gamers so that the game wouldn't feel like just "discs". When it is very obvious the devs put all their love and attention into making sure the disc worked well, bit like the lightsaber in Jedi Knight 2.
You just reminded me of an old fan created multiplayer online light cycle game I used to play on Ubuntu back in that era!
The only thing I remember from the original TRON movie is *EVERYTHING!* One of my all-time favorites. I'm all about sci-fi ever since Star Wars in 77 when I was 4 years old. TRON & The Black Hole are the only things I like from Disney.
I like tron legacy tbh, though daft punk's OST is half of why. But I wanted a sequel with the same cast from legacy tbh.
Totally, Daft Punk's OST is absolutely iconic and a template for all TRON music going forward. Will be interesting to see how Ares handles Legacy!
I have Tron 2.0 it's a pretty decent game, very underrated!
I love that game, still have it and have played it through to the end 3 or 4 times. Really wish the second movie had been more like that.
Got this when it first came out and loved it. Had to upgrade my video card as I was still using a VooDoo 5 5500 and it didn't support hardware T&L so I ended up getting my first nVidia card. You can still buy this game which I did a little while back. I forget which platform I bought it through but it was cheap so I couldn't resist, lol.
I saw TRON in movies and played the arcade game every time I went to the movie theatre. When TRON 2.0 came out, I bought it and immediately played through the story twice. When the movie was announced, I was hoping for a similar story with the character racing against the defrag when trapped in a server. When Legacy came out, I was disappointed by the story, but the visuals and music were astounding!
TRON 2.0 is one of a number of games that I feel could do with a remaster/remake in UE5.
It'd be freaking ridiculous on how good it could look, balancing how 'simple' it looks with all the effects that could be done.
It was fun to play, and the mechanics were good. Could use a few more weapons and 'hacking' mechanics.
Yesssss. I would be first in line for this!
I played Tron 2.0 when I was in 4th grade I believe it had been several years since th game had released roughly 6 or 7 if my dates are right and so I was able to pick it up cheap.
Was my first ever actual video game. Till this day it remains a strong favorite.
Another huge bummer nobody talks about is disney remastered the 1986 midway bally game and put new level design in it and sounds on disney go and then deleted it after they redid the website in 2012... would kill for a copy of their modified version "tron classic"
the tron cartoon that came out after tron legacy was also pretty good
Tron 2.0 was a great game for it's time (apart from a nasty bug that crashed it on computers with certain onboard sound cards)
I like to think Tron 2.0 is an adventure that takes place in the original system, whereas Legacy and Uprising are in Flynn’s updated one.
Fun fact about TRON 2.0: there are a few references to Marathon in the form of an program named Durandal and also "Frog Blast The Vent Core" appears in I'm pretty sure Thorn's server (it's been awhile since I played TRON 2.0 so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
The content is interesting yet what makes me want to comment is that the editing on this video is top notch, with such a wide variation and fast cutting of relevant clips. It makes me want to look through your other content.
Tron 2.0 nailed the visual esthetic as well as the sound design, highly underrated game, Monolith's production was woefully under-recognized , I agree that the other weapons didn't fit.
Y'all had me thinking another movie.
Have the game, totally awesome.
I wonder how much of Kingdom Hearts is canon to TRON... being that Kingdom Hearts is inherently a video game series; which crossed over with TRON, in an official Disney licensed product with a plot.
That's gotta count for something, especially given the nature of the material in question.
I think the general rule these days is: Everything is canon until it isn’t / Nothing is canon until it is.
It’s not canon to the movies. The Tron movies did took place before Kingdom Hearts, but that’s only in the KH Timeline.
Absolutely loved Tron 2.0
R.I.P. Cindy Morgan.
Absolutely love the tron video game I still have my physical copy.
In level Antiquated/Main Processing Core where Jet meets I-NO. It would be cool that was Dumont from the Movie voiced by Barnard Hughes. Would have been a great farewell for both. I-NO stayed in the system when it collapsed and Hughes passed three years later.
Old Yeller Dog Food is so morbid 😂
True story!
Thanks so much for reminding me of this game! I never played it. Great thorough job about reviewing it too. I'll definitely watch your nightmare before Christmas video soon.
Thanks! So glad to hear you enjoyed this!