@Caleb OKAY thats frickin crazy!! The idea that using computers in a movie couldve been seen as “cheating” sounds hella petty. Like how could one be blinded by that and not be able to see the progress being made because of it? Ugh idk tho, ig we know better since were in the future now
It may just be my TH-cam feed but A LOT of people have been praising it over the past couple of years, and Daft Punk disbanding honestly made it slightly relevant again.
I think some modern electronic artists could really do it justice. Daft Punk established the style, it’s much easier to emulate that now that it exists. Even somebody like Hans Zimmer could could do the soundtrack justice with a handful of “good taste”
@@canceroushit5933 You could, and that could work. But I almost would prefer another fresh new take. Wendy Carlos original was perfect for the original Tron. Daft Punk Nailed Legacy with their own style. You could just keep with that style and it would work, but I think I'd prefer a third original take for a third movie.
In the theater I commented to my buddy, really early on in the movie, "Did you notice Rinzler has the same 4 square pattern on his chest as Tron?" I was so elated when it turned out it really was Tron.
I was so happy that his corruption by Clu was overridden by Tron remembering who he was and who he fights for. But then it was bitter sweet when Clu knocked him out and Tron was falling to the bottom of the ocean, but it was amazing to see his original color scheme return. I just wish he was able to see Flynn again before he died.
I watched it in theaters in 3d. I really enjoyed the movie but the 3d viewing was so disappointing. I figured they'd go all out on the visuals in 3d. That's my only complaint.
"The thing about perfection is it's unknowable, but it's also in front of you all the time." The lesson I've never forgotten from Tron Legacy. My favorite movie of all time, the one that unlocked my passion to create.
All this time I thought I was alone in liking Tron Legacy. Turns out there is a whole community in chat that felt the same way. We should all meet up on Tuesdays so we can eat baked goods and discuss the parts we like in the movie.
I think what makes it better than a lot of CGI-f* fests today is that it didn’t try to be “realistic.” A lot of films today for some reasons like to use CGI for basically everything, including things that everybody knows is better when props are used instead. Tron: Legacy, on the other hand, use CGI, but it doesn’t try to hide that fact.
I had listened to the soundtrack so many times without having seen the movie cause I heard negative things about it. Then when I finally watched it I was blown away. Not just cause it was a good movie, but because the soundtrack I had grown to love separate of the film was now in its right place, and it made watching the movie a multi-layered experience.
@@EK63315 isn’t it just a perfect match? I was just convinced with “The Grid” during the opening that the music and the movie were going to be incredible. I love how you loved the soundtrack before watching it. Must have been an amazing feeling to hear it with all the grandiose of the movie! Really happy you overcame the bad opinions you heard about it to give it try mate! Take care.
I was lucky enough as a huge Tron fan to get to work on Tron: Legacy as an animator at Digital Domain , Love hearing so many others love the franchise as much as I do.
i kinda liked how little they went into Sam Flynn's life, it makes the movie feel a little bit more like a game where hes the avatar and we are the player
easy; they could’ve added many other scenes included the grid in general but i like the fact that it was succinct, it staples the fact the we’re pressed for time
Yeah, I always thought it needed more light cycle stuff plus I felt it would have been cool if Sam and Flynn were able to rally a bunch of programs to fight CLU. I hated that Sam was able to take down CLU's men by himself on his ship and most of it was off screen. And it would have been cool to have TRON finally join them to fight back more than just finally reverting back. Although it was very cool to have him take out CLU temporarily.
that would conflict heavily with the urgency of the matter, the whole point of it being a race for the portal, Sams impatience, and the pacing in general. the notion that more movie automatically equals better is a heavily overused and misunderstood point.
@@bagelbramble7335I think the movie would have been better if Flynn's disc was the only way to open the portal (seemed like it was required anyway) The events could play out the same but with a larger fight against clue. Pacing wise I don't think it would be to big an issue, the movie starts pretty slow anyway, another half hour would have been fine. Also would have been nice to get more Tron scenes, have him team up with Sam+Flynn earlier rather than him just switching sides and dying instantly.
You make a great point about Quora being a damsel in distress, however, the thing that sets her a part from other damsel in distresses/femme fatale is that she decided to be captured. She gave herself up so that the Flynns can escape. It shows the importance of her relationship with Kevin who taught her selflessness. Quora wasn't captured because she was weak, but because she was strong.
@Socksonat3am i will forever hail practical effects for their longevity. i mean, just look at how well lord of the rings and (most of) harry potter aged compared to the cgi-heavy movies from the same era that are almost unwatchable. i could talk for hours about how much of a genius peter jackson is when it comes to perspective, lmao
@@frnk8650 i think practical effects are overrated. Don't get me wrong, i love great practical effects, (just look at modern films like pacific rim jaeger interriors), but its weird for me that everytime someone comes up with practical effects they always take examples from high budget blockbusters/classics. I've seen enough older lower budget movies and i know probably as many examples for shitty practical effects as CGI. I always enjoy a great balance of both when done with great effort.
Back when I was little, I watched Tron legacy. When I saw them open up the light cycles I pissed my pants, and screamed "Oh my god" that was the first time I had never seen something so unique and so futuristic. Tron will always hold a special place in my heart.
I think as former kids who are now adults go to revisit this movie, it's going to blow up out of nowhere. I was 10 when I saw this so ofc I didn't fully appreciate it but recently looking back, it's stunning
I always felt that the conversation between Clu and Kevin at the end is the example as to why Clu is the perfect villain. Because we see Clu from Sam's POV he is seen as evil but in reality, Clu truly believes he is doing good. Perfect villain.
The very same idea behind Thanos (Marvel), he believes what he is doing is good whereas most other villains are motivated for selfishness or ulterior reasons.
@@ivanaslan24 has a point. How does a character/person believing in what they are doing make them "better" ("better person", "better hero", "better villain")?
@@Aussieguy72 Take it a step further. Both Thanos and CLU and trapped by what they perceive as a binary outcome and forced to make only one of two choices (Either fulfill their purpose, or fail and have no purpose). It's rather brilliant to see the writers of CLU frame his entire purpose on a very logical and appropriate (computational) premise but ultimately be hindered by it. Something Kevin never understood because he's not a machine. Humans see the nuance in every action and reaction. Thanos rationalizing his entire purpose in binary is what made him such a great villain. He chooses to see the universe that way, and where he diverges from CLU. He has the ability to choose and rationalize alternatives. CLU cannot. Its what makes CLU ultimately a tragic character and Thanos terrifying.
Honestly, the Tron franchise is really underrated. Tron Uprising is easily one of the best animated Disney shows of all time and the movie is just fantastic.
Oooh I loved Tron Uprising so much! Q__Q I was so sad that it ended where it did because I think it wasn't popular enough? But I also LOOOVE the artist behind the designs and the whole art style, it's super unique. (sorry, whenever I meet someone who knows the show, I kinda explode xD)
@@ii5139 I think that you're 100% right, Tron Uprising was such a great show! Oh, and I believe that it was cancelled due to the lack of advertisement and irregular broadcasting.
I recently watch all of the episodes on Disney +, didn't knew it even exist before , but it's criminaly underrated to my opinion, I'm sad it never got another season Sorry for my bad English
The lighting on the costumes was a practical effect that was done using electroluminescence. Anyone that's ever worked with EL strips knows that it's powered by a tiny high voltage inverter. On set, there were some cases of people getting zapped by the lighting in the suits.
Watching this movie today, I love listening to the daft punk soundtrack for this movie, especially the club scene, this movie was definitely ahead of its time. Truly a gem to appreciate.
This movie is honestly a huge reason I started writing, sketching, and making my own short films. It got me excited for the the future of cinema and the infinite possibilities for it.
Good we need more people with passion writing, creating, expressing themselves, not only the ability to express yourself, but it is a gift a talent that is so very vital to those that do not have the talent, the ability to reach inside oneself and manifest the internal in a way that captivates the senses and makes things come alive inside people that might not have otherwise, whether it excites the senses and causes someone to motivate, or simply shows someone they aren’t alone, it’s important, continue to share your gifts, you can affect many lives, who knows what you may inspire.
That's great to hear. I was thinking just last night how we seem to have lost courage in film making. The MCU is an astounding achievement, but it's based on decades old ideas and art. Where is the new Star Trek. Star Wars. Matrix. Alien et al? I love The Expanse and I think the new Dune and Foundation projects are going to amazing. But they too are all based on older material. Who is going to create the next James Kirk, or Darth Vader? Good luck with your writing and art!
My child has autism and this movie is her favorite. She’s watched it at least once a week since she first saw it as a toddler. For a long time watching it was the only way she could calm down or fall asleep. It’s been a godsend. No matter how many times I’ve seen it I’m still taken aback by it’s beauty. I honestly love this movie for so many reasons.
@@TedRader indeed. The pixelated fireworks for example was something I discovered 3 years after I first saw it. Such details.... I mean, I have no words for the feeling of discovering something like that after seeing it so many times.
Tron Legacy is like the only movie you can watch with your eyes closed and still get a full experience... the soundtrack is that good... it carries the film.
That Daft Punk score is amazing, iconic, perfect, and any other word I can use to give it praise and positive remarks. I really haven't found anything quite like it. It has that legendary OST status just like Halo, Star Wars, Naruto, Attack on Titan, and Doom, where the film would NEVER be the same without it. I remember one time I was driving home late at night and I was listening to End of Line and it was surreal.
CLU is the abandoned, betrayed child of Kevin Flynn who is still doing whatever he can to make his father proud and maybe win him back. There is no sadder villain.
@@O1OO1O1 Zodd is a good one but he wasnt anyone's child. Killmonger didnt want anyone's validation, he just wanted revenge and what he thought was his.
@@xbadjokerx Of course Killmonger wanted validation. His whole character is warped due to lack of it from society. They all have tragic pasts and were creations of their society.
@@diomedes7971 Zod's a purist. He wouldn't want to live on a planet like Earth--he wanted to re-create Krypton. Why risk precious babies under conditions that might kill him? It's his species we're talking about. Why Earth isn't described. There could be lots of reasons. I assume their ships were running low on resources. Earth is ready to go. Why not? You gotta understand, Zodd wasn't healthy in MoS. He was traumatised and desperate. He wasn't thinking rationally. HIs species just got destroyed and he's spent the last 20 years trying to solve that. Go watch Madoka Magica (the series).
Tron Legacy is one of the most elaborate, detailed, and epic stories ever told in a Daft Punk music video. I remember having little expectations when seeing it in theaters, and then absolutely falling in love with the music, visuals, and basic father/son theme of the story. A sequel could really go deeper into the AI discussion and how computer programs evolve as shown in countless movies over the years. But adding the visuals and Daft Punk music would elevate it. I fear a Jared Leto-led sequel could take away from Legacy, but we will see what happens when it comes.
For those that never saw this in theaters, my heart goes out to you. The use of theater-level bass speakers was unlike anything I've ever experienced. When the dropships were landing, it felt like they were actually there shaking the ground under my feet. Just one part of the sound design/music that makes this film brilliant.
I had just started working in a cinema when this beauty released. I still don't think anything has ever truly encompassed the depth of the sound and atmosphere of this movie to me ever since seeing it in theater.
Tron Legacy does have great sound and soundtrack for sure, but in my case I'm probably happy to have watched it at home with better bass than in the cinemas here - in Germany cinemas don't seem to have prominent bass unfortunately.
The last scene with Clue saying 'I did everything you ever wanted' i think is quite emotional. Im glad you touched on that because I think it elevates the villain of the film a huge amount.
You know I just realized that the title of the film being legacy isn’t just about Kevin and Sam. It’s also about Kevin and Quorra, and also Kevin and Clu. Specifically with Clu, an older wiser Kevin Flynn realizes with Clu that he had so many good intentions while he paved the road to Hell with him. An excellent scene.
CLU lacked free will and human nuance. He is no more to blame than a shark for being a shark. The real flaw is Kevin's failure to realize this, and thinking he could build a new CLU that could help build a perfect world, and in the end Kevin realizes his hubris.
yes but he also couldnt have human nuance not because he cant but because sam didnt have it either when he was created. clu's incapable of change because he is day one as he will always be. @@marc.lepage
The final show down between Kevin and CLU is probably one of my favorite movie scenes ever because it’s so well shot and the scoring and emotional weight of it is just so good, the slow mo shot of Kevin smiling while pulling CLU into an embrace and the emotional significance of him accepting and embracing his failure both literally and figuratively is so well portrayed and beautifully executed
Tron Legacy has been my favourite movie ever since i saw it at the cinema all those years ago, from the idea of the grid to the visuals to the songs are so good in my opinion. Ive never seen these sorts of movies as something meant to fully convey a perfect story but more as a glimpse into the world of these universes. The fact that there exists such a stark difference between the slums where sam arrives in the grid to the chaotic design of the arenas (showing Clus chaotic way of thinking) to the sleek design of the buildings in the city (almost suggesting a difference between what Kevin made and what Clu made) to the desolate bad lands where nothing was changed yet like a harddrive would look if you just threw random files on there without any order. The story could have been better yes, there could have been more action yes but there couldn’t have been a better way to show the grid and it’s programs any better!
It'd have probably resulted in some tiny ships coming out of the computer screen that Sam flats with a flyswatter. :D Like, Clu, why not send some scouts in first?
That really, really depends on whether anything constructed of data is translatable to real physics without having a one-to-one analog like a sentient program to a human. I mean, either way long-term it would never work, but if their rectifiers and such are functional they could mess up a city for a while before being demolished by the National Guard. That puts aside any handwavy data magic that would be needed to make them a real threat like being able to hear radio freeze the internet or something. But yeah, in a computer making something fly is more about what you say a thing can do, and in the real world it's more about how you make it do it. If the digitizing laser just makes a ship without functional weapons, an engine, or method of lift all they've got is a big fortress full of dudes half-buried in a demolished arcade and they've crushed their entire universe getting out.
@@morganrobinson8042 That mostly depends on how Flynn designed the "physics" of the Grid. Is it like the Matrix, where the code bends to your whim because it doesn't matter, or is it more like a real world simulation bounded only by the capabilities of the computer itself? . Flynn has the power to change anything, as a User, but he seems to be hesitant to do so...as if fucking with the world's code too much could cause some really nasty side-effects. And since his intent was to use the Grid as a proxy for advancing real-world knowledge and technology, it stands to reason that he'd make the Grid as "accurate" as possible. They have "air", drag, lift, gravity, etc. Odds are the ships don't simply float because they can, but they have code that emulates devices that can make them fly. . It's possible they might be less effective in the real world since Flynn himself wasn't a physicist or such, but he seems to have designed an adaptive algorithm that would organically make the world more "real" as it ran its processes. The longer it runs, the more realistic it becomes...hence why it eventually produced the Isomorphic Algorithms. Most likely, it wouldn't have worked. That would've been a lot of power to make a ship that big, and I can't imagine how it would've formed in that little basement. The only real way around it would be that Clu and one or two others go through, and somehow blow the top off the building, so that the laser has room to "beam out" the ship above the city. But that's still a lot of power. Not sure where they'd get it from. . It could be done, but there's no way it could be as simple as just going. Obviously the programs can leave...Quorra got out, after all.
11:40 It’s also powerful for the audience because it’s the only shot in the film that takes place during the day, so the refreshing feeling of seeing the sunrise in the film that Quora experiences is easier to understand and feel for the audience.
I always understood the son to be essentially a "trust fund" kid, given the first part of the movie. It's either stated or implied that he hadn't had to work a real job, and his shenanigans are put up with, so that he won't take control of the company, even though it's his right to at any point.
Tron: Legacy is a whole mood. The theme, the aesthetic, the sounds, the music, the visuals! It's all just so damn good. If I could, I'd live in place like The Grid. Riding Light Cycles on the daily! Such an underrated movie. We even named our first daughter after Olivia Wilde's character, Quorra.
@@hulkhatepunybanner ....oh trying to make it about this vs that isn't gonna do much when nobody even seem to remember underrated things, but sure if you're one of the few fans trying to somehow cope LoL.
That movie has so many tropey characters and themes, but presents them in a way that makes it enjoyable. And yes, a movie without forced romance subplot is amazing and made me love it more
"His own prison"....so true and I never thought of that. I also love your explanation of CLU, which I heartily agree with. And it was an impressive moment when he had the chance to kill Flynn but did not. It would have been like killing himself AND someone he cared about. Great job. I am saving this.
The movie is so good,that it physically hurted me when i realized they weren't making a sequel for it at that time.I've been addicted to it's OST since like 2013 or something,and i still have 'The Grid' as my ringtone
This makes me laugh. You know how long I had to wait after seeing the original back in the 80's? I was over 20 then - and yes - it was worth the wait. You kids got it so good and have no Clu.
This is the last movie I've watched with my childhood friends. After, we drifted apart and no longer speak with each other. It was an end of the year movie for all of us, the soundtrack and visual effects were gorgeous, and they still are. I'm missing them now, but life goes on. Great review btw
I don't remember if it was good or not good. I remember enjoying it somewhat at least. I preferred the Green Lantern animated series more. That was very good.
Kevin showing up in the club and all of the focus just concentrating on him, even the music and the lights is one of the most epic scenes I've ever seen
This movie had just hit theaters as I graduated OSUT at Fort Knox, KY. I remember going to see it with two of my buddies the night I got home and falling asleep in the movie theater seat. My buddies kept waking me up and my mind kept making me think I was about to get chewed out by a drill sergeant for falling asleep. Once I realized I was free for ten days and could do what I wanted, I spent the second half of the movie passed out. Ended up watching it dozens of times after and always thought it was a great movie, but I'll never forget the first time I saw half of it in that theater.
Man, your deconstruction of CLU is just so spot on! I gotta watch this movie again with all of this in mind. This was brilliant analysis dude, keep up the great work!
If you're interested in seeing CLU's character fleshed out, there's an official comic called Tron: Betrayal. It takes place between the two movies and basically shows what Friendly Space Ninja explained about CLU's way of thinking and how he felt just as betrayed as Flynn did. It also REALLY shows how Flynn handled everything and why things ended up the way they did in the movie. It's a little hard to get your hands on the full comic but it's TOTALLY worth it if you're really into Tron. If they had condensed the important plot points of the comic into just 1 scene in Legacy, I think it would have solved a lot of the story problems. I hated CLU before I read the comic and now he's one of my favorite villains of all time.
I fell in love with this movie when I first saw it as a kid. The aesthetic, the soundtrack, the concept, some of the characters, I was instantly hooked. It was really disappointing when I realised that a lot of people didn't share my enthusiasm for it. But man I hope this new movie does it justice
We commited the crime of underrating it,to give u an idea i didnt know it existed,and im ashamed of that,just look at that A E S T E T H I C,and the art stile looks like a LD&R chapter,hope disney one day unlocks all the potential tron has
Theirs talks of a new Tron in the works (named Tron ascension) with same cast and Jared Leto starring in it but doubt daft punk will do the soundtrack this time if its true haha.
@@homosexualitymydearwatson4109 Jared Leto is a pretty good actor, I don’t think he’ll be the reason Tron 3 will be bad. It’ll be studio interference, thats why suicide squad sucked. But hopefully that won’t happen with T3.
when i was younger i remember being very confused watching this movie and i rewatched recently and it suppressed me by how good it is when you just pay attention to what is going on. I really hope we get a tron 3 and that it is amazing
I saw this movie in theaters with my dad when I was a kid. When we left the theatre, we were both speechless. It changed our lives. For years we’ve been listening to the soundtrack in the car together and celebrating whenever we hear someone say a good thing about it. Thank you, thank you for doing it justice.
The score is a masterpiece. Literally. Written by Daft Punk and orchestrated by Joseph Trapanese. It took Daft Punk and Trapanese 2 years to finish the score. And bear in mind that this was Trapanese’s very first gig by himself. Many don’t know that Trapanese spent years with Hans Zimmer learning how to orchestrate. And if you listen carefully, you know you’re listening to an actual 90 piece orchestra that Daft Punk and Trapanese worked with to get the score just right. Daft Punk also wrote a brilliant tribute to Wendy Carlos, who scored the first TRON score and won 2 Grammys: “Adagio For TRON”. It is awe inspiring. And the movie itself just gets better and better. I wish there was a director’s cut. By the way the director Joseph Kosinski, also directed the new “Top Gun: Maverick”, one of my favorites, “Oblivion”, one of Tom Cruises’ best movies, and is slated to direct “TRON: 3”. With him at the helm, maybe it won’t be … well… woke. I’m hoping Disney doesn’t destroy yet another fan favorite franchise. And, yes. Daft Punk won a Grammy for the score of “TRON: Legacy”. Very well deserved.
Said it back then and I’ll say it now: I loooove this movie, and next to the Bladerunner soundtrack it’s probably my most listened to. The composition is so extremely well-timed with the story, and I can listen to ‘The Grid’ intro over and over and over, while the club-intro scene is just the most badass walking beat ever. Blast it full on and you’ll feel like the Terminator if he had rythm Beegees-style 😂 About Flynn: I love how much his character is in line with Bridges’ Lebowski, which makes sense: in the first movie he was like his son is now: reckless and driven. But in order to protect the personification of hope (Chora) he had to adjust to these surroundings. I for one did not feel the end of the movie being his demise: her transport to the ‘real world’ opens his aspirations back up, not to mention it directly inspiring and helping his son. This might be just me, but I got the feeling that he could have ‘cleaned out’ this world any time he wanted, but that would mean resetting everything. Now that Chora’s out, he hits reset and has a second chance. As for his son being under-developed: I always thought it benefited the story. He’s a reflection of the way Kevin used to be, plus probably just as smart. And yet: he’s a rich kid who feels there’s something waiting for him that goes far beyond reality. It is only in the last scene on the bike that we see him re-appreciating the ‘real-world’ and becoming who he is meant to be, exemplified by his brief moment with Alan. Lastly, I really love the way this movie combined practical and visual effects, and yet because Flynn got put there back in the eighties, that vibe is still very present. Heck, there’s even a convincing argument to be made that Clu really should look a little wonky, because -evidently - he’s an imperfect copy of Flynn, made by him at that time. And his prime directive could either be a slip up of Flynn, but it smartly also reflects back what an AI would look like with all human abilities and ideals, but none of the physical or temporal limitations. Which is why the books-scene is so important: he’s trying to have Chora reach those understandings on her own, integrating knowledge, experience and empathy, as opposed to the carbon-copy that Clu is. And it’s so smart to see that - every now and then - Kevin himself exhibits that behavior still, when snapping at Sam for example. Yes, I love this.
@@ed32568my favorite is disc wars. It used to be my thinking song. Like when I had some elaborate idea, Disc Wars really helped me like, feel inspired with those ideas.
@@os2841 To say covid doesn’t exist is pretty ignorant, I have 3 close friends who’ve caught it and one was close to death. I definitely don’t think it’s to the degree that the media portrays though
This movie was fucking awesome. It got me into Tron. The striking colors & crazy visual effects were super clean & clear, which is honestly not a point I thought I'd tote. The music though.... oh man, the music is just incredible and fits the vibe so well. The remaining sound design was also wonderful. The movie does such a good job immersing you into it all.
And I loved it, I didn't used to talk to ppls, didn't had alot of friends, nor had access to internet back then, hence why didn't knew about the hate and everything.Saw the trailer on tv, watched it it was one of my favorite movie of all time and still is
@@DorneyGamer haven't watched it but well... maybe because not all shows and movies can be good, or maybe the company, or etc messed up something, like seen someone commented about lack of viewers due to the irregular schedule they aired it
@@DorneyGamer (know what you mean but) I did not put it there disney or someone else did, and if you already knew it aired on a shitty pay tv like disney xd, then why ask why it got cancelled
@@DorneyGamer you're seriously asking me this question? The show was expensive, A-tier cast, top tier animation, but poorly marketed, was put on the back up channel that is Disney XD at some late hours when kids and teenagers (target demographic) were most likely to go to bed. Disney Executives killed this show and so many like this.
When Kevin and Sam have the conversation of first meeting each other “You’re… big.” “You’re…” “…Old.” It brings back the same emotions that I felt in Interstellar when Cooper sees Murph grown for the first time after years have passed and it is absolutely heart wrenching and emotionally crushing in a melancholy, regretful way.
I've been fighting for this movie ever since it came out. The director did a flawless job when it came to decors and suits (nowadays they would have just CGI'd the shirt out of it all), and picking Daft Punk for the soundtrack ? Genius. Someone in the comments said "criminally underrated" and I couldn't find better words.
I was obsessed with this movie and no one else cared, glad its getting more recognition now. Granted, part of my interest was down to having a crush on Quorra but its still great The soundtrack is phenomenal. Solar Sailor is my favourite
I remember kids in 8th grade saying things like "Oh it was so stupid there were only like 3 colors the whole movie". Then for a few more years into HS people would laugh whenever I said it was my favorite movie and now even more years everyone has started to love it.
Just watched this on bluray for the first time in 20 tears. Now that i have a legit home theater system, i was blown away! How in the world has the movie not gotten a 4k remaster?
I love how Friendly Space Ninja formats his movie analyses. And I love that he recognized how great of a character Kora is. FSN (imma call him that now), kinda goes in depth with his character qualities in the term of potentially and how well the role was executed by certain actors, and he also recognizes the talent certain actors have themselves and I looovvveee the recognition. This whole chanel is so immersive and interesting.
I see no flaws in _T:L._ It's beautiful visually, musically, & _thematically._ The film is smart & unafraid of subtext, exploring existential ideas with flourishes of grounded human reality - exceedingly rare to see in most movies, much less a popcorn confection. The scene where Flynn & son share a quiet moment on the glider to reconnect could have been rote or melodramatic but they just talk about a bike & real world stuff, speaking like real people - and it's powerful. My favourite shot is the ending with Quorra on the bike in the sunlight - it's a naturalism you'd expect to see in an Indie drama that contrasts strikingly against the expensive CGI spectacle that came before, succinctly illustrating the catharsis of the film - the characters find peace in presence rather than the pursuit of perfection. That is a very powerful message in a uniquely beautiful movie.
I saw this film in theatres as a child and then became so obsessed that I've watched it at least once a year since. So glad that other people are starting to love it too
"Ahead of its time is the LEAST you can say about it.I love how Tron: Legacy both honored and updated that amazing 80's universe. I even have it on blu-ray. The videogame wasn't half bad either. It's one of the few Disney movies I actually like.
Finally someone says it! The world building AMAZING, the concept AMAZING, the soundtrack AMAZING, design AMAZING. One of my favourite low key scenes is when the ‘end of line’ soundtrack plays as Flynn walks away and the shot transitions to the elevator at the club and the music matches the footsteps perfectly 👌🏼
It's so heartbreaking to see this amazing world just be tossed to the wayside time and again. Legacy is one of my favourite films and Uprisng was one of my favourite shows and neither got the love or attention it deserved.
My favorite line used to be: "biodigital jazz, man!" But after I rewatched it for a cinema class, I couldn't help but draw comparisons with the dude when Flynn says, "You're really messing with my zen thing, man!" Jeff Bridges is just one of those boomers we can't help but love, isn't he?
I'm a simple man. I see Tron, I click. Seriously though, on top of all the cool moments and amazing visuals, the themes of fatherhood/creation between Flynn and Clu, Sam, and Quorra and the differences in how they perceive and relate to him are so good, and I would love to see more character beats/interactions in an extended cut or something. And the finale where Clu doesn't understand why Flynn would sacrifice himself for Sam, and Jeff Bridges' line delivery of "Because he's my son" just hits so hard every time. I will never not cry at the end of this movie.
The core of the movie is a discussion about family and love - about how love is a combination of things: spending time being there for someone, understanding them and selflessness and how family is something you build with that love. We see that through the journeys that Quora, Kevin and Sam all go through and how CLU just doesn't understand that selflessness, that love because he wasn't made that way. And god yeah you can't not cry.
What I love about the movie is that it leaves you with a lot of philosophical questions. That short scene after the club fight where Flynn explains the implications that the grid and the Isos have for the world is amazing. That is what still blows my mind to this day.
Legacy has some of the best atmosphere I’ve ever seen. From the opening Disney logo and the first notes of the soundtrack, everything is immersing the audience in the world. I’m definetly tainted by nostalgia, this was the first movie I ever saw in Imax and that experience effects my judgement, but I unabashedly love this film.
Tron: Ahead of it's time
Tron Legacy: Ahead of it's time
Tron 3: Taking too much time
lmao ikr
True XD
If tron 3 ever comes out, its gonna have some next level CG
Cê tá certo, amigo.
@@middleman5463 without daft punk it would mean nothing tho
Yo ive always wondered why this movie was just FORGOTTEN like even just the tech was just so cool
@Caleb OKAY thats frickin crazy!! The idea that using computers in a movie couldve been seen as “cheating” sounds hella petty. Like how could one be blinded by that and not be able to see the progress being made because of it? Ugh idk tho, ig we know better since were in the future now
It was awesome.I can't believe people forgot about this movie.
It may just be my TH-cam feed but A LOT of people have been praising it over the past couple of years, and Daft Punk disbanding honestly made it slightly relevant again.
cause it's forgettable
@@Matisyahuwu no it’s not just you I’ve seen the tron hype too lol. Finally it’s getting the hype it deserves I used to love this movie as a kid
The only issue I have with TRON 3 being made is that Daft Punk can’t come back to score it.
That soundtrack is iconic in my eyes.
Yeah, but the original's soundtrack by Wendy Carlos was also iconic. But the bar is pretty high.
Ngl, my first thought about Daft Punk's retirement was how this would impact the Tron franchise.
wait 3? but i thought bruce boxleitner made it impossible becuase hes tron
I think some modern electronic artists could really do it justice. Daft Punk established the style, it’s much easier to emulate that now that it exists. Even somebody like Hans Zimmer could could do the soundtrack justice with a handful of “good taste”
@@canceroushit5933 You could, and that could work. But I almost would prefer another fresh new take. Wendy Carlos original was perfect for the original Tron. Daft Punk Nailed Legacy with their own style. You could just keep with that style and it would work, but I think I'd prefer a third original take for a third movie.
That shot where Rinzler turns back into Tron underwater still gives me chills
In the theater I commented to my buddy, really early on in the movie, "Did you notice Rinzler has the same 4 square pattern on his chest as Tron?" I was so elated when it turned out it really was Tron.
I was so happy that his corruption by Clu was overridden by Tron remembering who he was and who he fights for. But then it was bitter sweet when Clu knocked him out and Tron was falling to the bottom of the ocean, but it was amazing to see his original color scheme return. I just wish he was able to see Flynn again before he died.
I waited 11 years to find someone who can agree with me about how f*cking cool this movie is
Thank you, user.
X2
its freaking awsome!
I watched it in theaters in 3d. I really enjoyed the movie but the 3d viewing was so disappointing. I figured they'd go all out on the visuals in 3d. That's my only complaint.
Right?!?! I also loved Tron:Uprising tv show.
This movie is criminally underrated. The whole franchise is. The world building alone is better than a lot of things that have come out since 2010.
lol
@@Poosley 🤨
@@candycorn4912 wanting it to be a good movie won't make it any better :/
This is better than Alita. Don't get me wrong I like that movie as well, but the world is just so meh and meta compared to this
it was pretty meh
Visually, this movie was extremely so far ahead of its time. Like it’s beautiful.
I still believe not even Endgame has effects like this. And that's the great mix between practical and CGI.
@Michael Snyder not for its time.
I saw it in theaters as a kid. I grew up thinking everyone loved the movie, and finding out the opposite later on.
Fr. It has such a unique visual style
yeah, show someone who didnt watch it a clip of the visual effects and they'll think it came out a few years instead of over a decade ago
"The thing about perfection is it's unknowable, but it's also in front of you all the time." The lesson I've never forgotten from Tron Legacy.
My favorite movie of all time, the one that unlocked my passion to create.
This movie is the closest Disney will ever be to have something like Blade Runner
Shut up skinjob
(Jk love both)
Do you dream about being interlinked ?
@@maul8384 lmao
@@maul8384 just within cells
Please, no.
All this time I thought I was alone in liking Tron Legacy. Turns out there is a whole community in chat that felt the same way.
We should all meet up on Tuesdays so we can eat baked goods and discuss the parts we like in the movie.
Name a time and place and I'll be there
I will provide the baked goods :3
Yes
Down
I’ll bring the Victoria sponge & my passionate opinions.
Based on what we see in this video, Tron: Legacy *still* looks better than most CGI-fests today.
That's because it was designed with purpose, as opposed to being used as a less expensive alternative to practical sets and effects.
I mean, the world is meant to be artificial and perfect-looking so...
I think what makes it better than a lot of CGI-f* fests today is that it didn’t try to be “realistic.” A lot of films today for some reasons like to use CGI for basically everything, including things that everybody knows is better when props are used instead. Tron: Legacy, on the other hand, use CGI, but it doesn’t try to hide that fact.
Except for PS3-face Jeff Bridges, but that's a given
You say that because it's stylized af.
What touches me about this movie is that everyone is dealing with loss. There is a quiet sadness that permeates everything.
Just the Daft Punk soundtrack makes this movie a masterpiece.
I had listened to the soundtrack so many times without having seen the movie cause I heard negative things about it. Then when I finally watched it I was blown away. Not just cause it was a good movie, but because the soundtrack I had grown to love separate of the film was now in its right place, and it made watching the movie a multi-layered experience.
@@EK63315 isn’t it just a perfect match? I was just convinced with “The Grid” during the opening that the music and the movie were going to be incredible. I love how you loved the soundtrack before watching it. Must have been an amazing feeling to hear it with all the grandiose of the movie!
Really happy you overcame the bad opinions you heard about it to give it try mate! Take care.
The soundtrack really complements the amazing visual effects. I was searching for the soundtrack until they released the whole album recently.
I listen to this soundtrack just normally 😂😂
This movie was the source of my love for Daft Punk.
As a kid I didn’t even realize the person was cgi
everything looks 4k HD as a kid
But now I can't unsee it
WAIT THE PERSON WAS CGI??? I DIDNT REALIZE TILL NOS
I had the same thing with Rogue One. I was shocked how much people criticized Tarkin's Cgi afterwards and I was like: what??? He was cgi xD
When I first watched it, I was rolling balls
I was lucky enough as a huge Tron fan to get to work on Tron: Legacy as an animator at Digital Domain , Love hearing so many others love the franchise as much as I do.
Nice
So can you offer some insights into why the look of Legacy is so unimaginative compared to the original film?
@@ZylonBane how the hell does it look unimaginative
@@ZylonBane Well the design is always controlled by the Producers and Directors who were not the original team. So they had their own vision.
That's so cool!! I still love the film so much
i kinda liked how little they went into Sam Flynn's life, it makes the movie feel a little bit more like a game where hes the avatar and we are the player
This seems like one of those movies that would benefit being 3 hours long.
easy; they could’ve added many other scenes included the grid in general but i like the fact that it was succinct, it staples the fact the we’re pressed for time
#bringbacktron
Yeah, I always thought it needed more light cycle stuff plus I felt it would have been cool if Sam and Flynn were able to rally a bunch of programs to fight CLU. I hated that Sam was able to take down CLU's men by himself on his ship and most of it was off screen. And it would have been cool to have TRON finally join them to fight back more than just finally reverting back. Although it was very cool to have him take out CLU temporarily.
that would conflict heavily with the urgency of the matter, the whole point of it being a race for the portal, Sams impatience, and the pacing in general. the notion that more movie automatically equals better is a heavily overused and misunderstood point.
@@bagelbramble7335I think the movie would have been better if Flynn's disc was the only way to open the portal (seemed like it was required anyway) The events could play out the same but with a larger fight against clue.
Pacing wise I don't think it would be to big an issue, the movie starts pretty slow anyway, another half hour would have been fine.
Also would have been nice to get more Tron scenes, have him team up with Sam+Flynn earlier rather than him just switching sides and dying instantly.
You make a great point about Quora being a damsel in distress, however, the thing that sets her a part from other damsel in distresses/femme fatale is that she decided to be captured. She gave herself up so that the Flynns can escape. It shows the importance of her relationship with Kevin who taught her selflessness. Quora wasn't captured because she was weak, but because she was strong.
100% agree!
Plus, Quora is far more capable of taking care of herself than the way damsels are portrayed.
She is like rukia from bleach in my opinion
@Erwin Lii bleach went totally downhill after the soul society arc smh
100% this. Not to mention Flynn’s son was also the damsel in distress first and Quora was the one to save him first, before he saved her.
This movie came out over a decade ago and is still the best-looking blockbuster I've ever seen
@Socksonat3am i will forever hail practical effects for their longevity. i mean, just look at how well lord of the rings and (most of) harry potter aged compared to the cgi-heavy movies from the same era that are almost unwatchable. i could talk for hours about how much of a genius peter jackson is when it comes to perspective, lmao
It is the best-looking and one of my favorites. Ever.
It's beautiful
@@frnk8650 The first iron man suits were cgi and still looked amazing. Then again, the hulk, released in the same year as iron man looked pretty bad.
@@frnk8650 i think practical effects are overrated.
Don't get me wrong, i love great practical effects, (just look at modern films like pacific rim jaeger interriors), but its weird for me that everytime someone comes up with practical effects they always take examples from high budget blockbusters/classics. I've seen enough older lower budget movies and i know probably as many examples for shitty practical effects as CGI. I always enjoy a great balance of both when done with great effort.
Back when I was little, I watched Tron legacy. When I saw them open up the light cycles I pissed my pants, and screamed "Oh my god" that was the first time I had never seen something so unique and so futuristic. Tron will always hold a special place in my heart.
Did you see Tron: Uprising?
yes@@EvonS
yes@@EvonS
"Imagine God showing up in the club" is the best line of 2021
Yeah, and that wasn't God, that was Jesus. They aren't the same. Some people just don't realize that.
@@csmemarketing not a big deal. The idea is the same
@@csmemarketing In churchianity they are one in the same... No wonder God is depicted as a man so much...
@@isaacm9324 ?
Faithless - God Is a DJ
The only good thing about emily in paris is that it helped me discover your channel.
So true : ))
Same
Lol same
Same!!
Agree!
"Tron and I built this grid in a cave, with a box of scraps." ~Jeff Bridges
perfect 😅 👌🏾
Obadiah Stane: Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!
Nice one!
"I'm sorry Sir. But I'm not Tron." ~Rinzler
Dude...Duuuude !!! fook it, lets go bowling.
(and btw, Tony Stark stole Jarvis from Kevin Flynn hence why you see the name in both franchises).
I think as former kids who are now adults go to revisit this movie, it's going to blow up out of nowhere. I was 10 when I saw this so ofc I didn't fully appreciate it but recently looking back, it's stunning
I always felt that the conversation between Clu and Kevin at the end is the example as to why Clu is the perfect villain. Because we see Clu from Sam's POV he is seen as evil but in reality, Clu truly believes he is doing good. Perfect villain.
This movie was also made when Hollywood could still write villains.
The very same idea behind Thanos (Marvel), he believes what he is doing is good whereas most other villains are motivated for selfishness or ulterior reasons.
Like Hitler lol
@@ivanaslan24 has a point. How does a character/person believing in what they are doing make them "better" ("better person", "better hero", "better villain")?
@@Aussieguy72 Take it a step further. Both Thanos and CLU and trapped by what they perceive as a binary outcome and forced to make only one of two choices (Either fulfill their purpose, or fail and have no purpose). It's rather brilliant to see the writers of CLU frame his entire purpose on a very logical and appropriate (computational) premise but ultimately be hindered by it. Something Kevin never understood because he's not a machine. Humans see the nuance in every action and reaction. Thanos rationalizing his entire purpose in binary is what made him such a great villain. He chooses to see the universe that way, and where he diverges from CLU. He has the ability to choose and rationalize alternatives. CLU cannot. Its what makes CLU ultimately a tragic character and Thanos terrifying.
Honestly, the Tron franchise is really underrated. Tron Uprising is easily one of the best animated Disney shows of all time and the movie is just fantastic.
Oooh I loved Tron Uprising so much! Q__Q
I was so sad that it ended where it did because I think it wasn't popular enough?
But I also LOOOVE the artist behind the designs and the whole art style, it's super unique.
(sorry, whenever I meet someone who knows the show, I kinda explode xD)
@@ii5139 I think that you're 100% right, Tron Uprising was such a great show! Oh, and I believe that it was cancelled due to the lack of advertisement and irregular broadcasting.
I recently watch all of the episodes on Disney +, didn't knew it even exist before , but it's criminaly underrated to my opinion, I'm sad it never got another season
Sorry for my bad English
@@obi_hoan6118 First of all, your English is wonderful. Second of all, the show is truly underrated, I wish there was a season two.
@@yinwithoutyang732 thanks i appreciate! It's cool to see other people sharing the same opinion on this show
The costuming in this movie is impeccable. All of the costumes in Tron are beautiful and help make the world feel real
The lighting on the costumes was a practical effect that was done using electroluminescence. Anyone that's ever worked with EL strips knows that it's powered by a tiny high voltage inverter. On set, there were some cases of people getting zapped by the lighting in the suits.
@@lihtan: This movie was the best 3-D movie I've ever seen in theaters.😀👍
Well, those are some really good invested 16,000 dollars
@@lihtan And they needed a monstrous amount of batteries to work. They used custom-made batteries, and each one lasted around twelve minutes.
The costumes look like they're built by a 12 year old girl for a tiktok cosplay
Watching this movie today, I love listening to the daft punk soundtrack for this movie, especially the club scene, this movie was definitely ahead of its time. Truly a gem to appreciate.
This movie is honestly a huge reason I started writing, sketching, and making my own short films. It got me excited for the the future of cinema and the infinite possibilities for it.
That’s awesome
Good we need more people with passion writing, creating, expressing themselves, not only the ability to express yourself, but it is a gift a talent that is so very vital to those that do not have the talent, the ability to reach inside oneself and manifest the internal in a way that captivates the senses and makes things come alive inside people that might not have otherwise, whether it excites the senses and causes someone to motivate, or simply shows someone they aren’t alone, it’s important, continue to share your gifts, you can affect many lives, who knows what you may inspire.
That's great to hear. I was thinking just last night how we seem to have lost courage in film making. The MCU is an astounding achievement, but it's based on decades old ideas and art. Where is the new Star Trek. Star Wars. Matrix. Alien et al? I love The Expanse and I think the new Dune and Foundation projects are going to amazing. But they too are all based on older material. Who is going to create the next James Kirk, or Darth Vader?
Good luck with your writing and art!
My child has autism and this movie is her favorite. She’s watched it at least once a week since she first saw it as a toddler. For a long time watching it was the only way she could calm down or fall asleep. It’s been a godsend. No matter how many times I’ve seen it I’m still taken aback by it’s beauty. I honestly love this movie for so many reasons.
Floracil50 by UMZU good for autism
It's so visually stimulating but not to and excess that it's very engaging , I'm glad you both enjoy it and it's helped her so much.
I also have autism and I ahve been searching for years to find someone else that thinks this movie is as cool as I do
And you can ALWAYS find bits of beauty you missed before
@@TedRader indeed. The pixelated fireworks for example was something I discovered 3 years after I first saw it. Such details.... I mean, I have no words for the feeling of discovering something like that after seeing it so many times.
The Tron OST is basically an electro-orchestra
I still listen to this day! Daft Punk are musical geniuses.
I loved it so much
That was the last CD I ever got, I definitely don't regret that purchase!
@@elvolta6 everything after Homework is f**king garbage half assed pop rubbish.
@@slavestudios you can curse on the Internet man
Tron Legacy is a solid 4.5/5
Highly underrated movie.
The characters, vehicles, atmosphere and the soundtrack.... omg
Someone finally said it, this movie truly is good and the conflict between Kevin and C.L.U is so interesting!
Exactly, the stunning visuals and soundtrack just elevate it more. Jeff Bridges is just a delight to see too.
You seriously should watch the CinemaWins video for this movie. He gushes about it and points out all the great things about it.
A true brother vs brother fight that isn't forced and shows the amazing dynamic the same person can have, just from a different perspective
Tron Legacy is like the only movie you can watch with your eyes closed and still get a full experience... the soundtrack is that good... it carries the film.
Not as much as the visuals, but it would not be the same without it
That Daft Punk score is amazing, iconic, perfect, and any other word I can use to give it praise and positive remarks. I really haven't found anything quite like it. It has that legendary OST status just like Halo, Star Wars, Naruto, Attack on Titan, and Doom, where the film would NEVER be the same without it. I remember one time I was driving home late at night and I was listening to End of Line and it was surreal.
CLU is the abandoned, betrayed child of Kevin Flynn who is still doing whatever he can to make his father proud and maybe win him back. There is no sadder villain.
Snyder's Zodd, brought to life by the masterful Michael Shannon (go watch him in Shelter). Probably also MCU Killmonger.
@@O1OO1O1 Zodd is a good one but he wasnt anyone's child. Killmonger didnt want anyone's validation, he just wanted revenge and what he thought was his.
@@xbadjokerx Of course Killmonger wanted validation. His whole character is warped due to lack of it from society.
They all have tragic pasts and were creations of their society.
@@diomedes7971 Zod's a purist. He wouldn't want to live on a planet like Earth--he wanted to re-create Krypton. Why risk precious babies under conditions that might kill him? It's his species we're talking about.
Why Earth isn't described. There could be lots of reasons. I assume their ships were running low on resources. Earth is ready to go. Why not?
You gotta understand, Zodd wasn't healthy in MoS. He was traumatised and desperate. He wasn't thinking rationally. HIs species just got destroyed and he's spent the last 20 years trying to solve that.
Go watch Madoka Magica (the series).
And what is sadder is that, he is made to follow orders and unable to betray said orders
Tron Legacy is one of the most elaborate, detailed, and epic stories ever told in a Daft Punk music video. I remember having little expectations when seeing it in theaters, and then absolutely falling in love with the music, visuals, and basic father/son theme of the story. A sequel could really go deeper into the AI discussion and how computer programs evolve as shown in countless movies over the years. But adding the visuals and Daft Punk music would elevate it. I fear a Jared Leto-led sequel could take away from Legacy, but we will see what happens when it comes.
Leto is absolutely the wrong choice for the sequel. I think a lot of Tron fans would agree.
For those that never saw this in theaters, my heart goes out to you. The use of theater-level bass speakers was unlike anything I've ever experienced. When the dropships were landing, it felt like they were actually there shaking the ground under my feet. Just one part of the sound design/music that makes this film brilliant.
I saw this in a 3D theater. That was a mind-blowing experience.
I had just started working in a cinema when this beauty released. I still don't think anything has ever truly encompassed the depth of the sound and atmosphere of this movie to me ever since seeing it in theater.
Tron Legacy does have great sound and soundtrack for sure, but in my case I'm probably happy to have watched it at home with better bass than in the cinemas here - in Germany cinemas don't seem to have prominent bass unfortunately.
I saw Tron Legacy in IMAX 3D and wow it was almost like watching a different movie!
i watched it in theater too and it's my favourite movie since xD
The last scene with Clue saying 'I did everything you ever wanted' i think is quite emotional. Im glad you touched on that because I think it elevates the villain of the film a huge amount.
You know I just realized that the title of the film being legacy isn’t just about Kevin and Sam. It’s also about Kevin and Quorra, and also Kevin and Clu. Specifically with Clu, an older wiser Kevin Flynn realizes with Clu that he had so many good intentions while he paved the road to Hell with him. An excellent scene.
CLU lacked free will and human nuance. He is no more to blame than a shark for being a shark. The real flaw is Kevin's failure to realize this, and thinking he could build a new CLU that could help build a perfect world, and in the end Kevin realizes his hubris.
yeah but he also hugely misunderstood the film and everything in the films conversation.
yes but he also couldnt have human nuance not because he cant but because sam didnt have it either when he was created. clu's incapable of change because he is day one as he will always be. @@marc.lepage
The final show down between Kevin and CLU is probably one of my favorite movie scenes ever because it’s so well shot and the scoring and emotional weight of it is just so good, the slow mo shot of Kevin smiling while pulling CLU into an embrace and the emotional significance of him accepting and embracing his failure both literally and figuratively is so well portrayed and beautifully executed
Tron Legacy and Speed Racer will forever be “Misunderstood Gems”
Completely true
Tron Legacy and Speed Racer were movies I grew up with as a kid, and they shaped my interests today.
THANK YOU
I friggin love Speed Racer.
YES! Speed Racer is my absolute favorite movie, flaws and all.
Tron Legacy has been my favourite movie ever since i saw it at the cinema all those years ago, from the idea of the grid to the visuals to the songs are so good in my opinion. Ive never seen these sorts of movies as something meant to fully convey a perfect story but more as a glimpse into the world of these universes. The fact that there exists such a stark difference between the slums where sam arrives in the grid to the chaotic design of the arenas (showing Clus chaotic way of thinking) to the sleek design of the buildings in the city (almost suggesting a difference between what Kevin made and what Clu made) to the desolate bad lands where nothing was changed yet like a harddrive would look if you just threw random files on there without any order. The story could have been better yes, there could have been more action yes but there couldn’t have been a better way to show the grid and it’s programs any better!
I can't believe this came out 10 years ago
It's been 11 by now.
Crazy right?! I was nearly 7 years old when it released, and this year I'm going to turn 18... 😳 Time flies!
It makes you feel old, doesn't it? I know it makes me feel old.
@@martaleszkiewicz5115 I was 11 when it came out 🤣🤣 now I'm 22
@@yinwithoutyang732 I was only 4 that time, I only watch princesses and craft shows on TV 😅
I can't be the only one who kinda wanted to see what Clu's invasion of the real world would look like.
and would it have worked
It'd have probably resulted in some tiny ships coming out of the computer screen that Sam flats with a flyswatter. :D Like, Clu, why not send some scouts in first?
You've already seen it. It's called Marvel's Avengers.
That really, really depends on whether anything constructed of data is translatable to real physics without having a one-to-one analog like a sentient program to a human. I mean, either way long-term it would never work, but if their rectifiers and such are functional they could mess up a city for a while before being demolished by the National Guard. That puts aside any handwavy data magic that would be needed to make them a real threat like being able to hear radio freeze the internet or something.
But yeah, in a computer making something fly is more about what you say a thing can do, and in the real world it's more about how you make it do it. If the digitizing laser just makes a ship without functional weapons, an engine, or method of lift all they've got is a big fortress full of dudes half-buried in a demolished arcade and they've crushed their entire universe getting out.
@@morganrobinson8042 That mostly depends on how Flynn designed the "physics" of the Grid. Is it like the Matrix, where the code bends to your whim because it doesn't matter, or is it more like a real world simulation bounded only by the capabilities of the computer itself?
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Flynn has the power to change anything, as a User, but he seems to be hesitant to do so...as if fucking with the world's code too much could cause some really nasty side-effects. And since his intent was to use the Grid as a proxy for advancing real-world knowledge and technology, it stands to reason that he'd make the Grid as "accurate" as possible. They have "air", drag, lift, gravity, etc. Odds are the ships don't simply float because they can, but they have code that emulates devices that can make them fly.
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It's possible they might be less effective in the real world since Flynn himself wasn't a physicist or such, but he seems to have designed an adaptive algorithm that would organically make the world more "real" as it ran its processes. The longer it runs, the more realistic it becomes...hence why it eventually produced the Isomorphic Algorithms. Most likely, it wouldn't have worked. That would've been a lot of power to make a ship that big, and I can't imagine how it would've formed in that little basement. The only real way around it would be that Clu and one or two others go through, and somehow blow the top off the building, so that the laser has room to "beam out" the ship above the city. But that's still a lot of power. Not sure where they'd get it from.
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It could be done, but there's no way it could be as simple as just going. Obviously the programs can leave...Quorra got out, after all.
Petition for Quorra to get her own Disney+ series
Check out Tron Uprising, she's just a side character but its more Tron and pretty great
Sadly Olivia Wilde would never do it :(
Signed
@@leonsonstwie4816 she was more like a guest charecter...
Try watching Uprising first. It’s a great show.
11:40 It’s also powerful for the audience because it’s the only shot in the film that takes place during the day, so the refreshing feeling of seeing the sunrise in the film that Quora experiences is easier to understand and feel for the audience.
I always understood the son to be essentially a "trust fund" kid, given the first part of the movie. It's either stated or implied that he hadn't had to work a real job, and his shenanigans are put up with, so that he won't take control of the company, even though it's his right to at any point.
Yep this is the implication.
Tron: Legacy is a whole mood. The theme, the aesthetic, the sounds, the music, the visuals! It's all just so damn good. If I could, I'd live in place like The Grid. Riding Light Cycles on the daily! Such an underrated movie. We even named our first daughter after Olivia Wilde's character, Quorra.
Zzz
@@wiktorpekala2875 no cap
*This movie was way way better when it was called Speed Racer.*
@@hulkhatepunybanner ....oh trying to make it about this vs that isn't gonna do much when nobody even seem to remember underrated things, but sure if you're one of the few fans trying to somehow cope LoL.
@@changsangma1915 LOL
That movie has so many tropey characters and themes, but presents them in a way that makes it enjoyable. And yes, a movie without forced romance subplot is amazing and made me love it more
I recommend you to watch "Born Sexy Yesterday" by Pop Culture Detective.
@Tara haha, I came from that video.
"His own prison"....so true and I never thought of that. I also love your explanation of CLU, which I heartily agree with. And it was an impressive moment when he had the chance to kill Flynn but did not. It would have been like killing himself AND someone he cared about. Great job. I am saving this.
I appreciate your capacity to recognize flaws in things you love
The movie is so good,that it physically hurted me when i realized they weren't making a sequel for it at that time.I've been addicted to it's OST since like 2013 or something,and i still have 'The Grid' as my ringtone
This makes me laugh. You know how long I had to wait after seeing the original back in the 80's? I was over 20 then - and yes - it was worth the wait. You kids got it so good and have no Clu.
I started running 10 years ago, every time i run i listen this soundtrack. Is perfect for running. 😁
@@claudiubanu8438 the OST is my workout music to this day and my girlfriend's like... don't you listen to anything else!? Why mess with perfection.
The details like Quorra not being able to beat Kevin on a board game not able to be played by computers, is something I love.
This is the last movie I've watched with my childhood friends. After, we drifted apart and no longer speak with each other. It was an end of the year movie for all of us, the soundtrack and visual effects were gorgeous, and they still are. I'm missing them now, but life goes on. Great review btw
We must not forget Tron Uprising. An incredible world-building show that was gone too soon
I don't remember if it was good or not good. I remember enjoying it somewhat at least. I preferred the Green Lantern animated series more. That was very good.
dont remember much either, but i do remember that i was really bumped out when they cancelled it
@@O1OO1O1 Look up a video made by Negative Legend that was made recently regarding Tron Uprising. That show was incredibly well done
@@diegopansini3152 thanks, I will.
One of the best animated TV shows. I'm still holding on to hope that it'll come back one day
"Flynn! Am I still to create the perfect system?"
"nnYeah?"
Bruh the way he says yeah sticks in my head and I don't know how to explain it but it's just different
@@barthotymous yeah same the delivery of Jeff Bridges is so off putting and I love it. It's like if he was asked if he shat in the toilet
@@barthotymous it makes me laugh every time and I don’t know why
My friend and I will just go "Yeah?" to each other like that to this day.
@@zanderwohl yeah my brother and I will randomly start laughing our asses off about it
Kevin showing up in the club and all of the focus just concentrating on him, even the music and the lights is one of the most epic scenes I've ever seen
Yes, that's probably my favorite scene in Tron!
The soundtrack on that scene is soooo goood. Chills every time
This movie had just hit theaters as I graduated OSUT at Fort Knox, KY. I remember going to see it with two of my buddies the night I got home and falling asleep in the movie theater seat. My buddies kept waking me up and my mind kept making me think I was about to get chewed out by a drill sergeant for falling asleep. Once I realized I was free for ten days and could do what I wanted, I spent the second half of the movie passed out. Ended up watching it dozens of times after and always thought it was a great movie, but I'll never forget the first time I saw half of it in that theater.
Man, your deconstruction of CLU is just so spot on! I gotta watch this movie again with all of this in mind. This was brilliant analysis dude, keep up the great work!
If you're interested in seeing CLU's character fleshed out, there's an official comic called Tron: Betrayal. It takes place between the two movies and basically shows what Friendly Space Ninja explained about CLU's way of thinking and how he felt just as betrayed as Flynn did. It also REALLY shows how Flynn handled everything and why things ended up the way they did in the movie. It's a little hard to get your hands on the full comic but it's TOTALLY worth it if you're really into Tron. If they had condensed the important plot points of the comic into just 1 scene in Legacy, I think it would have solved a lot of the story problems. I hated CLU before I read the comic and now he's one of my favorite villains of all time.
I really agree with this. Watching TRON Legacy, I got chills mostly from the soundtrack. But I got chills from listening to this dude explain CLU
I'd like to add that the director was a former architect and he put a lot of it into worldbuilding.
Does anybody remember "Tron uprising"? It was such an criminally underrated animated show! I honestly wish it got more praise :-(
Yes! I could only hope and pray that they would bring back the directors and air a new season on Dis+. Not gonna happen most likely but one can dream
Yes! Such a good series!
I binged it as soon as I got Disney+ loved it
dam, I might have to go pirate and rewatch it, I beleive it looked it got a 2nd season but never did right?
Probably one of the most underrated movies in my lifetime.
I fell in love with this movie when I first saw it as a kid. The aesthetic, the soundtrack, the concept, some of the characters, I was instantly hooked. It was really disappointing when I realised that a lot of people didn't share my enthusiasm for it. But man I hope this new movie does it justice
Daft Punks soundtrack for this movie alone should get an award it sounded so futuristic and badass
I don't know where you came from but I binged all your videos, they are so good!
Thank you, Professor!
Exactly! Came out of nowhere to become one of my favorite TH-camrs!
This channel is growing insanely fast. It’s new, but already has really good production quality
I think he's from space.
Glad to know you're still alive Albus. 👌🏾🐐
The soundtrack for this movie is genuinely a daily listen, especially songs like Arena, End of Line, and Derezzed.
Tron: Uprising is even more criminally underrated.
Shiits on the movie.
Very true
Honestlyyy
We commited the crime of underrating it,to give u an idea i didnt know it existed,and im ashamed of that,just look at that A E S T E T H I C,and the art stile looks like a LD&R chapter,hope disney one day unlocks all the potential tron has
I didn’t know it existed until I was watching Disney channel at 4 am as an adult and there was a marathon
Man, as a kid finding out both Legacy and Uprising bombed stung deep
I felt that when I realized I watched the final episode.
Theirs talks of a new Tron in the works (named Tron ascension) with same cast and Jared Leto starring in it but doubt daft punk will do the soundtrack this time if its true haha.
@@declanhoffmann1600 idk if you watched the video but Jared Leto is in the talks for Tron 3 which is being called Tron: Aries
@@gideonhorton_ oh god I hate that. I honestly hope I’m wrong about not thinking he’s going to do well. I really want Tron to succeed,
@@homosexualitymydearwatson4109 Jared Leto is a pretty good actor, I don’t think he’ll be the reason Tron 3 will be bad. It’ll be studio interference, thats why suicide squad sucked. But hopefully that won’t happen with T3.
Imagine if we had a 4 hour version of this like the Snyder Cut... With character development and more dialog and interactions and such...
I'd prefer it be broken down into a mini-series
@@theawesomeman9821 frfr they could have a whole movie miniseries on disney+ or sumthing. It's a shame that it's not getting the attention it deserves
I was just about to tweet this exact thought.
@@demetriusean I'd subscribe for it
@@elusiveanmol tweet it, let them read about it!!!
when i was younger i remember being very confused watching this movie and i rewatched recently and it suppressed me by how good it is when you just pay attention to what is going on. I really hope we get a tron 3 and that it is amazing
little and on i remember playing a Tron light cycle game i think on the ds still one of the best games till this day
I saw this movie in theaters with my dad when I was a kid. When we left the theatre, we were both speechless. It changed our lives. For years we’ve been listening to the soundtrack in the car together and celebrating whenever we hear someone say a good thing about it. Thank you, thank you for doing it justice.
I ride a motor bike and I always have one ear listening to these soundtracks. Plus I have my helmet and jacket custom made with tron lights.
@@hunterunknwn you’re living the life I dream of.
I'm so proud of my ten year old self for fangirling over this film since the first moment I saw the trailer on TV
Question is, do you still like it the same?
@@sum1s0mewhere yeee, the film has more or less defined my aesthetic preferences so naturally I still love it, if anything I appreciate it more now
@@angelica-yw7ev My aesthetic movie sense was defined by Terminator 2, so I know what you mean :)
Daft Punl's score for this film was nothing short of a masterpiece.
Daft punl?
@@elliott7268 you're gonna stand here with a straight face and tell me that you've never heard of DAFT PUNL?!?!@!?1
Is Daft Punl the band that did the Bollywood version?
Not to be mistaken by "Daft Punk".
@@voldy3565 Yes, hopefully Daft Punl will not be mistaken FOR Daft Punk, BY Daft Punk themselves. 😂👌
That point you made about not forcing a 'romantic' relationship on the main characters was something I appreciated about Pacific Rim.
The score is a masterpiece. Literally. Written by Daft Punk and orchestrated by Joseph Trapanese.
It took Daft Punk and Trapanese 2 years to finish the score. And bear in mind that this was Trapanese’s very first gig by himself. Many don’t know that Trapanese spent years with Hans Zimmer learning how to orchestrate. And if you listen carefully, you know you’re listening to an actual 90 piece orchestra that Daft Punk and Trapanese worked with to get the score just right.
Daft Punk also wrote a brilliant tribute to Wendy Carlos, who scored the first TRON score and won 2 Grammys: “Adagio For TRON”. It is awe inspiring.
And the movie itself just gets better and better. I wish there was a director’s cut. By the way the director Joseph Kosinski, also directed the new “Top Gun: Maverick”, one of my favorites, “Oblivion”, one of Tom Cruises’ best movies, and is slated to direct “TRON: 3”. With him at the helm, maybe it won’t be … well… woke. I’m hoping Disney doesn’t destroy yet another fan favorite franchise.
And, yes. Daft Punk won a Grammy for the score of “TRON: Legacy”. Very well deserved.
I listen to that score when I'm studying and I cannot get enough of it.
Said it back then and I’ll say it now: I loooove this movie, and next to the Bladerunner soundtrack it’s probably my most listened to. The composition is so extremely well-timed with the story, and I can listen to ‘The Grid’ intro over and over and over, while the club-intro scene is just the most badass walking beat ever. Blast it full on and you’ll feel like the Terminator if he had rythm Beegees-style 😂
About Flynn: I love how much his character is in line with Bridges’ Lebowski, which makes sense: in the first movie he was like his son is now: reckless and driven. But in order to protect the personification of hope (Chora) he had to adjust to these surroundings. I for one did not feel the end of the movie being his demise: her transport to the ‘real world’ opens his aspirations back up, not to mention it directly inspiring and helping his son. This might be just me, but I got the feeling that he could have ‘cleaned out’ this world any time he wanted, but that would mean resetting everything. Now that Chora’s out, he hits reset and has a second chance.
As for his son being under-developed: I always thought it benefited the story. He’s a reflection of the way Kevin used to be, plus probably just as smart. And yet: he’s a rich kid who feels there’s something waiting for him that goes far beyond reality. It is only in the last scene on the bike that we see him re-appreciating the ‘real-world’ and becoming who he is meant to be, exemplified by his brief moment with Alan.
Lastly, I really love the way this movie combined practical and visual effects, and yet because Flynn got put there back in the eighties, that vibe is still very present. Heck, there’s even a convincing argument to be made that Clu really should look a little wonky, because -evidently - he’s an imperfect copy of Flynn, made by him at that time. And his prime directive could either be a slip up of Flynn, but it smartly also reflects back what an AI would look like with all human abilities and ideals, but none of the physical or temporal limitations. Which is why the books-scene is so important: he’s trying to have Chora reach those understandings on her own, integrating knowledge, experience and empathy, as opposed to the carbon-copy that Clu is. And it’s so smart to see that - every now and then - Kevin himself exhibits that behavior still, when snapping at Sam for example.
Yes, I love this.
Oblivion is one of my favorite movies that most people haven't heard of or seen.
Soundtrack and visuals are amazing. Watching the film the second time I around I realized many of the song titles were direct lines from a the movie.
@@ed32568my favorite is disc wars. It used to be my thinking song. Like when I had some elaborate idea, Disc Wars really helped me like, feel inspired with those ideas.
I’d pay $200 to see this movie in a fully packed theater without covid worries right now
In 3D
Same, I miss that feeling lol
shit id do it with covid worries xD
@@os2841 To say covid doesn’t exist is pretty ignorant, I have 3 close friends who’ve caught it and one was close to death. I definitely don’t think it’s to the degree that the media portrays though
was the best moment in my life
Loved this movie as a teen. I was visually stunned and didn’t give a shit about the story, i was hyped by the laser freesbie and the grid cycle race
This movie was fucking awesome. It got me into Tron. The striking colors & crazy visual effects were super clean & clear, which is honestly not a point I thought I'd tote. The music though.... oh man, the music is just incredible and fits the vibe so well. The remaining sound design was also wonderful. The movie does such a good job immersing you into it all.
Damn the way you described c.l.u. Now he's on the list for the best villain of that decade.
When i was a kid I was embarrassed for liking it. I would make my parents rent it over and over from Redbox
My poor parents had to deal with me constantly wanting to rewatch this movie and transformers
And I loved it, I didn't used to talk to ppls, didn't had alot of friends, nor had access to internet back then, hence why didn't knew about the hate and everything.Saw the trailer on tv, watched it it was one of my favorite movie of all time and still is
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You could have just bought it tbh.
Tron Legacy is the perfect example of why franchise like this should be adapted as a TV show and not 2hrs movie
Well... why was TRON Uprising (the TV Show to TRON Legacy) Cancelled after season 1?
@@DorneyGamer haven't watched it but well... maybe because not all shows and movies can be good, or maybe the company, or etc messed up something, like seen someone commented about lack of viewers due to the irregular schedule they aired it
@@JCarrera_ll well maybe there couldnt be much viewers if you put it on a shitty pay tv like Disney XD
@@DorneyGamer (know what you mean but) I did not put it there disney or someone else did, and if you already knew it aired on a shitty pay tv like disney xd, then why ask why it got cancelled
@@DorneyGamer you're seriously asking me this question? The show was expensive, A-tier cast, top tier animation, but poorly marketed, was put on the back up channel that is Disney XD at some late hours when kids and teenagers (target demographic) were most likely to go to bed. Disney Executives killed this show and so many like this.
When Kevin and Sam have the conversation of first meeting each other “You’re… big.” “You’re…” “…Old.” It brings back the same emotions that I felt in Interstellar when Cooper sees Murph grown for the first time after years have passed and it is absolutely heart wrenching and emotionally crushing in a melancholy, regretful way.
The soundtrack is so good that became my default soundtrack to listen while reading Sci-fi novels. It's just too epic.
I've been fighting for this movie ever since it came out. The director did a flawless job when it came to decors and suits (nowadays they would have just CGI'd the shirt out of it all), and picking Daft Punk for the soundtrack ? Genius. Someone in the comments said "criminally underrated" and I couldn't find better words.
I was obsessed with this movie and no one else cared, glad its getting more recognition now. Granted, part of my interest was down to having a crush on Quorra but its still great
The soundtrack is phenomenal. Solar Sailor is my favourite
Hey watching this movie as a young girl left only two possible answers. You either wanted to be Quorra or be with Quorra. No exceptions. 😤
I remember kids in 8th grade saying things like "Oh it was so stupid there were only like 3 colors the whole movie". Then for a few more years into HS people would laugh whenever I said it was my favorite movie and now even more years everyone has started to love it.
Just watched this on bluray for the first time in 20 tears. Now that i have a legit home theater system, i was blown away! How in the world has the movie not gotten a 4k remaster?
I love how Friendly Space Ninja formats his movie analyses. And I love that he recognized how great of a character Kora is. FSN (imma call him that now), kinda goes in depth with his character qualities in the term of potentially and how well the role was executed by certain actors, and he also recognizes the talent certain actors have themselves and I looovvveee the recognition. This whole chanel is so immersive and interesting.
I just subscribed yesterday and this new video feels like a gift
Haha welcome aboard friend!
Same 🙋 and I finished all of the videos
This is like the sweetest yt comment I've ever read 😻😻
I see no flaws in _T:L._ It's beautiful visually, musically, & _thematically._ The film is smart & unafraid of subtext, exploring existential ideas with flourishes of grounded human reality - exceedingly rare to see in most movies, much less a popcorn confection.
The scene where Flynn & son share a quiet moment on the glider to reconnect could have been rote or melodramatic but they just talk about a bike & real world stuff, speaking like real people - and it's powerful.
My favourite shot is the ending with Quorra on the bike in the sunlight - it's a naturalism you'd expect to see in an Indie drama that contrasts strikingly against the expensive CGI spectacle that came before, succinctly illustrating the catharsis of the film - the characters find peace in presence rather than the pursuit of perfection. That is a very powerful message in a uniquely beautiful movie.
You said it so beautifully, and i strongly agree with u
I saw this film in theatres as a child and then became so obsessed that I've watched it at least once a year since. So glad that other people are starting to love it too
laughed tha fuck out loud at "imagine god just showing up at the club" had to replay that part 😂
"Ahead of its time is the LEAST you can say about it.I love how Tron: Legacy both honored and updated that amazing 80's universe. I even have it on blu-ray. The videogame wasn't half bad either. It's one of the few Disney movies I actually like.
The original was but not legacy
Your comment has no end quote and it's really annoying me lol
@@Charliezard7i loved the original alot
Finally someone says it! The world building AMAZING, the concept AMAZING, the soundtrack AMAZING, design AMAZING. One of my favourite low key scenes is when the ‘end of line’ soundtrack plays as Flynn walks away and the shot transitions to the elevator at the club and the music matches the footsteps perfectly 👌🏼
It's so heartbreaking to see this amazing world just be tossed to the wayside time and again. Legacy is one of my favourite films and Uprisng was one of my favourite shows and neither got the love or attention it deserved.
If you want to ride a lightcycle, Disney has a roller coaster based on the movie in Shanghai and a clone will soon open in Disney World
My favorite line used to be: "biodigital jazz, man!" But after I rewatched it for a cinema class, I couldn't help but draw comparisons with the dude when Flynn says, "You're really messing with my zen thing, man!" Jeff Bridges is just one of those boomers we can't help but love, isn't he?
i love the fact he’s just jeff bridges in the movie , we see so many comparisons to Kevin and The Dude from The Big Lebowski , like a WISE DUDE
Tron was legit part of my childhood. It's what got me into futuresci-fi stuff, motorcycles, and most especially Daft Punk
I agree 100% on your option on Quorra! She could have carried an entire Tron movie with her being the only one of her kind and growing into her own
I'm a simple man. I see Tron, I click.
Seriously though, on top of all the cool moments and amazing visuals, the themes of fatherhood/creation between Flynn and Clu, Sam, and Quorra and the differences in how they perceive and relate to him are so good, and I would love to see more character beats/interactions in an extended cut or something.
And the finale where Clu doesn't understand why Flynn would sacrifice himself for Sam, and Jeff Bridges' line delivery of "Because he's my son" just hits so hard every time. I will never not cry at the end of this movie.
The core of the movie is a discussion about family and love - about how love is a combination of things: spending time being there for someone, understanding them and selflessness and how family is something you build with that love. We see that through the journeys that Quora, Kevin and Sam all go through and how CLU just doesn't understand that selflessness, that love because he wasn't made that way.
And god yeah you can't not cry.
What I love about the movie is that it leaves you with a lot of philosophical questions. That short scene after the club fight where Flynn explains the implications that the grid and the Isos have for the world is amazing. That is what still blows my mind to this day.
The grid doesn't make sense to be honest
Yeah the mystery behind it is what makes it even better
Wow... I was never interested in this movie, but your take on it made it very appealing. I know what I'm watching tonight!
Great video!
Thank you! I hope you like the movie as much as I do!
@@friendlyspaceninja Sure I will!!
@Erwin Lii Probably the only thing that feels actually negative about Tron: Legacy for me
So how was it?
Legacy has some of the best atmosphere I’ve ever seen. From the opening Disney logo and the first notes of the soundtrack, everything is immersing the audience in the world.
I’m definetly tainted by nostalgia, this was the first movie I ever saw in Imax and that experience effects my judgement, but I unabashedly love this film.