Awesome! In other exciting news, I made a run to Wal-Mart for hygiene supplies and decided to check the MOTU-O pegs even though I had given up on looking for figures. And lo and mfing behold, there was 1 Orko, 2 Man-E-Faces, 1 Trap Jaw and OMG, 1 Scareglow! I never attacked a peg so fast LOL.
So, timeline goes: A 9th mail away exclusive was planned and in limited production with the rest of the MOTU 1st series, MOTU hits retail stores, CPI takes notice and sues Mattel when MOTU is a big financial success, the 9th exclusive figure is seen as borderline copyright infringement and Mattel gets skiddish but goes forward with the giveaway offer with no marketing images or production documentation for "Savage He-Man" to protect the brand. At the same time, they were suing Remco for their Lost World of the Warlord which Mattel loses. Shortly afterwards Remco released Conan the barbarian figures (perhaps partially done as a middle finger aimed at Mattel) which looked more like He-Man than Conan, when Mattel was giving away a figure that looked more like Conan than Remco's Conan (IMHO). Such drama!
Thank you for all your content! He man was my first love as a kid, then gijoe, but he man has always been my first lol. Your videos have been so very educating, I look forward to all your videos to come. Great job!!
Another great video, Scott. And 1982 was such a great year in Pop Culture. Is the release of 4 initial figures an industry standard? I notice that happens a lot. MOTU, Kenner's Indiana Jones, Star Wars Early Bird, Tomy's Tron, Clash of the Titans, etc...
I was highly amused to see new MOTU toys based on WWE wrestlers last year. Everything old was new again. It was the same feeling I had when I saw new Playmobil stuff. It was WTF but in a good way. I even considered buying some toys, but I'm old now.
I remember Wonderbread used to have some sorta Super Hero Cards or something I would get it for hoping they would have em. Your sound around 2 mins in got a bit lower then it was normal again so figured was planned? You might want to blur that phone number off the truck if that isn't some advertisement to be safe heh. I would have been happy with a WonderBread He-Man I liked my Faker which was just him blue basically :).
@@spectorcreative1872 Those were the days I broke my mail away Fridge Perry GI Joe figure by accident once that was a bummer. I think Sgt Slaugther was a mail away but I Had a few of those. Kelloggs had the Han Solo Storm Trooper if only Wonder Bread came thru too :).
Guru, any idea why the vintage He-man was so perfect and that same kinda detail just isn't there in the newer toys? The rubber head sculpt, the cuts, shadows etc. What's the difference in budgets between then and now, and why?
Well it really is that technology has evolved and things that were not possible 30 years ago from a toy engineering perspective are. Case in point, the reason Kenner could not do a removable helmet Vader was it wasn't working from an engineering standpoint, the head kept coming out as a pin head. But fast forward to today and Hasbro can do this easily.
I prefer the name savage he man especially since wonderbread has no ties to it at all . Love the information and stuff I've learned watching this channel about a property I've loved since I was a child .
Action figure related, what is the deal with the bendy figures, I have seen them come back into popularity, with DC super heros, the rubber ones with the metal frame, do they fall outside of any action figure rules because of tge way they are made?
Its possible the 9th mail away figure could have referred to Faker as he was not featured on the original 8 back releases. Did Wonderbread he man come out before or after faker is that known? They could have decided to release it as a regular release instead of mail away. Just a possibility or that could refer to the wonder bread he man.
Brown haired mail away He-Man was probably planned before Faker. I think the execs and lawyers looked at the Conanesque appearance of "Savage He-Man" and decided to try to quietly remove all evidence of it's existence then made Faker to look as different from He-Man but still use existing tooling molds. It's a shame they never thought to later make a green Slime Pit He-Man so I don't have to customize my own today. Here's hoping Mattel will make AntiEternia He-Man, Horde drone Slime He-Man and Savage He-Man in MOTU Origins.
@@spectorcreative1872 I dont think its likely either. But it is weird that Faker is the only figure released on an 8 back he is not featured on. That makes him a 9th figure almost like he is an after thought tacked on. When exactly was wonderbread he man released is that known?
Oh man an official "In Universe" MOTU history and lore DVD/Blue Ray/Digital Media set? I would totally buy that, make it a box set with the "Commercial History" as well, well that would be like doubling down on an "Ace" and a "Face Card" at the table.
You would go there. One of the few He-Man figures I don't have is the mail away figure. Not talking about Wonder Bread. There was a proof of purchase mail away King randor which I sent in for but never received. Generally the ones that turn off on eBay are pretty rough and trashed and further more stupid expensive. At some point I've got to look into was scared low a male away or what. I originally has here glow with a cape but at some point the cape turned into powder. Still have the figure in good shape I swear on a stack of Bibles my scareglow had a glow-in-the-dark Power sword similar to hemans but everybody claims he never had a glow in the dark sword. Finally prove the point here not that long ago that mine had a glow-in-the-dark staff turns out the staff was from another toyline not that I knew that as a kid. Ironically I'm technically missing evil Lyn. I bought one a few years back and presently don't know where I put it originally thought I had it and with my He Man collection that was in storage till I got it out a couple weeks ago you can get a good evil in these days for almost nothing still have her sceptre which proves I had one and can't find it. Can literally get evil-lyn and several figures usually in a group for like 20 on eBay for whatever reason that figures gone way down in value. I remember somebody a couple weeks ago trying to tell me scareglow was a $20 figure and couldn't understand why I wouldn't take $200 for it. I was telling him I turned down $200 where somebody offered it a few months back prior to him mentioning the figure. Faker was my first Masters of the Universe figure and I remember as a kid I couldn't understand why my Eman was blue with orange hair LOL. People would probably lose their crackers if they knew the story behind getting that figure and why it's one of the few that I own that is beating the sweet Jesus literally came that way I've sent Scott another one in really good shape and I've got a extra armour that I could have replaced his with but it's just gotten to the point where it's kind of the figure has character the way it is LOL. At some point I've got to go to the trouble of finding material that details the entire He-Man line prom back in the 80s up to things switched over to He-Man in space. Weirdly enough I don't have any of the toys from the He-man live movie which still kind of has me scratching my head I figured there would have been a few of them mixed in with my collection but when I went through the entire box the other day it was something I realized I haven't got a single figure connected to the live-action movie and I never had anything from He-Man in space everything I've got is strictly connected to the cartoon series and books. There were several random action figures that I got about five years back which I found out or from He-Man in space. One is one of the versions of Skeletor from that line I think it's missing a helmet or something like that the others are several of the henchmen. Really cool figures although wish they were at the same scale as the older He-Man figures. Kind of hilarious that the accessories sell for more than the figures most He-Man figures even in good shape are going like 10 or $20 each other than a really rare ones and yet the accessories without the figures fetch some crazy prices. Apparently if I want a king randor in decent condition it runs around 200 up to 300 plus the shipping which I still think is ridiculous then again people selling He-Man the Wonder Bread one have gotten some crazy prices I really wonder how many of them got out in the wild when you think about the number of King randor and scareglow and that it's quite possibly there's some weirdos out there a damn box of the Wonder Bread version of brown hair mail away He-Man just waiting to be discovered. I wouldn't be surprised if I had one as a kid and sold it or traded it at some point I see the damn figure mentioned some where's it looks so familiar. I remember the first time it got brought up on a program I specifically got the box of everything out looking to see if I had it because the figure look so familiar. Nice to finally find out that it was apparently a male away which makes sense.
Yeah wonder bread He Man is real I remember it, lol, I even knew a few kids that had it, it did not come with that black armor and stuff either, it did not even have a card, bio anything like that, just a figure in the mail. I like the that’s all folks thing at the end of the video, I have used a similar one in the past, but it has the goat of Mendes in the center instead of Porky, lol.
Awesome! In other exciting news, I made a run to Wal-Mart for hygiene supplies and decided to check the MOTU-O pegs even though I had given up on looking for figures. And lo and mfing behold, there was 1 Orko, 2 Man-E-Faces, 1 Trap Jaw and OMG, 1 Scareglow! I never attacked a peg so fast LOL.
Nice. Glad this wave is finally hitting the US
So, timeline goes:
A 9th mail away exclusive was planned and in limited production with the rest of the MOTU 1st series, MOTU hits retail stores, CPI takes notice and sues Mattel when MOTU is a big financial success, the 9th exclusive figure is seen as borderline copyright infringement and Mattel gets skiddish but goes forward with the giveaway offer with no marketing images or production documentation for "Savage He-Man" to protect the brand. At the same time, they were suing Remco for their Lost World of the Warlord which Mattel loses. Shortly afterwards Remco released Conan the barbarian figures (perhaps partially done as a middle finger aimed at Mattel) which looked more like He-Man than Conan, when Mattel was giving away a figure that looked more like Conan than Remco's Conan (IMHO). Such drama!
Perhaps.
At least it is all coming together
Love this behind-the-scenes stuff! Thank you for sharing it!
Glad you enjoy!
Aaahhhhh, story time. We need more of these unraveling’s of the universe we have all grown to love. Another story, pleassseeee.
Putting out all I can!
Thank you for your hard work, we enjoy every bit of it.
Thank you for all your content! He man was my first love as a kid, then gijoe, but he man has always been my first lol. Your videos have been so very educating, I look forward to all your videos to come. Great job!!
Much more to come and still much to explore on the channel!
Another great video, Scott. And 1982 was such a great year in Pop Culture. Is the release of 4 initial figures an industry standard? I notice that happens a lot. MOTU, Kenner's Indiana Jones, Star Wars Early Bird, Tomy's Tron, Clash of the Titans, etc...
If only we could freeze time
1982 - and no end in sight to that support!
1982... what a year that was too. ;-)
@@spectorcreative1872 I was too young to remember 1982.... 😇 (1/1/82 - 10/3/82: 2 yrs old)(10/4/82 - 12/31/82: 3 yrs old)
@@spectorcreative1872 G.I. Joe!!
I was highly amused to see new MOTU toys based on WWE wrestlers last year. Everything old was new again. It was the same feeling I had when I saw new Playmobil stuff. It was WTF but in a good way. I even considered buying some toys, but I'm old now.
Old does not mean we need to stop buying toys. See here: th-cam.com/video/Ume-NeAktTY/w-d-xo.html
Lol, I am 51 and just started collecting MOTU. It revives those childhood memoirs.
@@m.e.9299 Go for it!
Thank you very much Scott! 🙂👍
You are most welcome. And I am a Castlevania fan too...
I remember Wonderbread used to have some sorta Super Hero Cards or something I would get it for hoping they would have em. Your sound around 2 mins in got a bit lower then it was normal again so figured was planned? You might want to blur that phone number off the truck if that isn't some advertisement to be safe heh. I would have been happy with a WonderBread He-Man I liked my Faker which was just him blue basically :).
Cards they did make, but not a figure!
@@spectorcreative1872 Those were the days I broke my mail away Fridge Perry GI Joe figure by accident once that was a bummer. I think Sgt Slaugther was a mail away but I Had a few of those. Kelloggs had the Han Solo Storm Trooper if only Wonder Bread came thru too :).
Guru, any idea why the vintage He-man was so perfect and that same kinda detail just isn't there in the newer toys? The rubber head sculpt, the cuts, shadows etc. What's the difference in budgets between then and now, and why?
Well it really is that technology has evolved and things that were not possible 30 years ago from a toy engineering perspective are. Case in point, the reason Kenner could not do a removable helmet Vader was it wasn't working from an engineering standpoint, the head kept coming out as a pin head. But fast forward to today and Hasbro can do this easily.
Probably because they were done by hand and not on a computer.
I prefer the name savage he man especially since wonderbread has no ties to it at all . Love the information and stuff I've learned watching this channel about a property I've loved since I was a child .
I agree. Savage He-Man is the name I'll go with personally.
That's a great find. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall of the original pitch.
Can you imagine!
Saturday Morning does not start until the newest episode is released.
Can I put that on a T-shirt?
I have a strange recollection of a Pebbles Cereal tie in with Roboto in Canada around 85 or maybe 86.
Everything ties back to Fruity Pebbles.
important Saturday info thanks scott
Doing my part to being back Saturday morning cartoon time
So the pitch just supports that Savage He-Man was indeed a mail away figure, but not with Wonder Bread specifically
That is my take away
Sold! Wait a minute. There is already a line of toys like that. They are Called Masters Of the Universe... Who are trying to trick , Mister?
Damn. They're on to me....
Your flubs make these videos even better. 🐸👍
I try.
Action figure related, what is the deal with the bendy figures, I have seen them come back into popularity, with DC super heros, the rubber ones with the metal frame, do they fall outside of any action figure rules because of tge way they are made?
Sometimes yes. They can be licensed separately from traditional action figures
Its possible the 9th mail away figure could have referred to Faker as he was not featured on the original 8 back releases. Did Wonderbread he man come out before or after faker is that known? They could have decided to release it as a regular release instead of mail away. Just a possibility or that could refer to the wonder bread he man.
Hmmmm...
Brown haired mail away He-Man was probably planned before Faker. I think the execs and lawyers looked at the Conanesque appearance of "Savage He-Man" and decided to try to quietly remove all evidence of it's existence then made Faker to look as different from He-Man but still use existing tooling molds. It's a shame they never thought to later make a green Slime Pit He-Man so I don't have to customize my own today. Here's hoping Mattel will make AntiEternia He-Man, Horde drone Slime He-Man and Savage He-Man in MOTU Origins.
Honestly, I don't think so. Faker came later.
@@spectorcreative1872 I dont think its likely either. But it is weird that Faker is the only figure released on an 8 back he is not featured on. That makes him a 9th figure almost like he is an after thought tacked on. When exactly was wonderbread he man released is that known?
I'd buy a physical DVD or Blu Ray of a collection of your MOTU lore (in universe and the history of its production) recorded to video. Just sayin'
Love to do something like this, but it may be limited to TH-cam for the moment.
Oh man an official "In Universe" MOTU history and lore DVD/Blue Ray/Digital Media set? I would totally buy that, make it a box set with the "Commercial History" as well, well that would be like doubling down on an "Ace" and a "Face Card" at the table.
@@spectorcreative1872 Something for you to look at down the road with beefed up production values.
@@spectorcreative1872 You should totally do this
I hope the mystery will be solved some time :)
Oh I think it has, see here: th-cam.com/video/xhnH62KZ0SI/w-d-xo.html
You would go there. One of the few He-Man figures I don't have is the mail away figure. Not talking about Wonder Bread. There was a proof of purchase mail away King randor which I sent in for but never received. Generally the ones that turn off on eBay are pretty rough and trashed and further more stupid expensive. At some point I've got to look into was scared low a male away or what. I originally has here glow with a cape but at some point the cape turned into powder. Still have the figure in good shape I swear on a stack of Bibles my scareglow had a glow-in-the-dark Power sword similar to hemans but everybody claims he never had a glow in the dark sword. Finally prove the point here not that long ago that mine had a glow-in-the-dark staff turns out the staff was from another toyline not that I knew that as a kid. Ironically I'm technically missing evil Lyn. I bought one a few years back and presently don't know where I put it originally thought I had it and with my He Man collection that was in storage till I got it out a couple weeks ago you can get a good evil in these days for almost nothing still have her sceptre which proves I had one and can't find it. Can literally get evil-lyn and several figures usually in a group for like 20 on eBay for whatever reason that figures gone way down in value. I remember somebody a couple weeks ago trying to tell me scareglow was a $20 figure and couldn't understand why I wouldn't take $200 for it. I was telling him I turned down $200 where somebody offered it a few months back prior to him mentioning the figure. Faker was my first Masters of the Universe figure and I remember as a kid I couldn't understand why my Eman was blue with orange hair LOL. People would probably lose their crackers if they knew the story behind getting that figure and why it's one of the few that I own that is beating the sweet Jesus literally came that way I've sent Scott another one in really good shape and I've got a extra armour that I could have replaced his with but it's just gotten to the point where it's kind of the figure has character the way it is LOL. At some point I've got to go to the trouble of finding material that details the entire He-Man line prom back in the 80s up to things switched over to He-Man in space. Weirdly enough I don't have any of the toys from the He-man live movie which still kind of has me scratching my head I figured there would have been a few of them mixed in with my collection but when I went through the entire box the other day it was something I realized I haven't got a single figure connected to the live-action movie and I never had anything from He-Man in space everything I've got is strictly connected to the cartoon series and books. There were several random action figures that I got about five years back which I found out or from He-Man in space. One is one of the versions of Skeletor from that line I think it's missing a helmet or something like that the others are several of the henchmen. Really cool figures although wish they were at the same scale as the older He-Man figures. Kind of hilarious that the accessories sell for more than the figures most He-Man figures even in good shape are going like 10 or $20 each other than a really rare ones and yet the accessories without the figures fetch some crazy prices. Apparently if I want a king randor in decent condition it runs around 200 up to 300 plus the shipping which I still think is ridiculous then again people selling He-Man the Wonder Bread one have gotten some crazy prices I really wonder how many of them got out in the wild when you think about the number of King randor and scareglow and that it's quite possibly there's some weirdos out there a damn box of the Wonder Bread version of brown hair mail away He-Man just waiting to be discovered. I wouldn't be surprised if I had one as a kid and sold it or traded it at some point I see the damn figure mentioned some where's it looks so familiar. I remember the first time it got brought up on a program I specifically got the box of everything out looking to see if I had it because the figure look so familiar. Nice to finally find out that it was apparently a male away which makes sense.
After all these years I'm just glad some good info has come to light
@@spectorcreative1872 1 word.yes!
Yeah wonder bread He Man is real I remember it, lol, I even knew a few kids that had it, it did not come with that black armor and stuff either, it did not even have a card, bio anything like that, just a figure in the mail.
I like the that’s all folks thing at the end of the video, I have used a similar one in the past, but it has the goat of Mendes in the center instead of Porky, lol.
Have you seen the first part:
th-cam.com/video/xhnH62KZ0SI/w-d-xo.html
@@spectorcreative1872 sure
Very informative but your audio commentaries didps at certain points. Maybe try to sustain a stable output in later works?
Thanks, I will note that as I continue to work on the best audio possible!
@@spectorcreative1872 You're getting there!
The Sage 😇
Enjoy the videos, that is all I ask. ;-)
@@spectorcreative1872 Everyone!
@@spectorcreative1872 All I ask is for, is a tall ship and a star to steer her by!