Suspicious Scientist: Do the UFO Sightings Seem Off? Brian Keating on Joe Rogan
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I had the pleasure of asking the one and only Joe Rogan how he reacts when he's talking to someone and he thinks they're wrong. This happened to me recently when I was talking to Ryan Graves and his team about their UFO sighting, and the science behind it seemed fishy to me! Here are my thoughts on the whole situation...
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Probably “all of the above”. I’m inclined to allow ample slack in the rope for people like Graves, Elizondo, Mellon, and many others who are actively pushing for release of currently classified data. The juice is worth the squeeze.
Plot Twist: the US has found a way to play cat-laser with jets and anything else that relies on these devices to scan the surroundings, basically giving them the ability to flood anyone’s screen with numerous incoming “objects”, and were trying to see how well they could fool their own pilots.
it's like bigfoot, the abominable snowman, ghosts etc. just human error and misinterpretation
@@robertstan2349 There are evidence that support that UFOs are real. Ghosts and Bigfoot, no. So you are very wrong here to compare the three. It's actually not just wrong, it's stupid.
@@robertstan2349 And that's why you are not a scientist
It doesn't matter if you think they're saying something that's correct or not. They're saying they have the evidence and it's classified. These people seem really eager to try to get the evidence to us. We should support them in that effort then. Our beliefs don't matter. Let's see the evidence. If we as the public don't demand it then we won't get it.
Three is no evidence. Classified or unclassified.
@@TheMasterashton That is something that you couldn't possibly know. Thanks
if there was any why isnt it public? if theres physical pieces then why cant we see them and examine them?
a chunk of debris isnt nearly as menacing as a modelled head from a scifi movie though i guess and youd never sell that bs if civilians couldnt verify metallurgy.
the us government doesn't allow whislteblowers in this realm of technology. this is beyond b17 status. this is high tech mach 9 blimp stuff.
aint no aliens in this story...though they are laughing
@@LBTennis Out of the 1000s of commercial pilots flying and millions of passengers all over the world and the millions of high definition cameras that everyone carries not a single shred of evidence from radar or actual photographs but somehow only the military has ALL of this evidence. Doesn't that sound like fantastical to you. Aliens with their technology that is light years ahead of us would give a rats azz about the military...they would laugh in their faces. In other words, they would go anywhere they please....big sporting events, the superbowl, outdoor concerts....anywhere where there would be thousands of people watching but yet they don't but somehow the military has the entire evidence that aliens exist and it is classified. Sounds laughable to me! What say you?
@@TheMasterashton Okay. 🤣
The problem here is that it wasn't just visual - there are multiple points of data collection...
There was nothing. And never will be anything.
Where's the proof?
I may be off on this but……I think they call that “sharp shooting” in the debate world; focusing on one fact to prove your point while willfully ignoring others that may disprove it. It’s actually a common thing when scientists try to debunk UFOs.
Which the skeptics can't explain, so they just say it was bad data (which in fact Keating alluded to in this clip "...it was new equipment, being used for the first time). If all these Navy sensors got fooled, the taxpayers need their money back.
@ralphholiman7401 my radar said bigfoot was surfing on a 747. There is footage too it's just classified.
Instead of whining about grainy photos and, hearsay testimony, help the whistle-blower to come foward!! Use your show Joe to put pressure on the senators and congressmen. Demand they provide a secure scif and the proper security clearances. These people have the information, they just need the right environment.
100% !! I don't understand Joe's attitude towards this topic recently. Usually he's SUPER interested in UFO's. Now, the biggest story in history is coming about about UFO's and Joe basically either avoids talking about it or dismisses it. He should be all over it, eating this stuff up!! Using his platform to put pressure on speaker mcarthy and the inspector general to keep moving this thing forward!!!!
Well said. This is exactly what Avi Loeb has been saying also.
@@KickbackskeProbably because it's just more hype from the UFO community. They've been claiming disclosure for 50+ years.
All this gov't backed ufo drama is a cover to put nukes in orbit.
@@Kickbackske what's the big fuss about again? The declassified USN videos that did the rounds in the media? What was that again? An obvious airliner (blurry NVG video?), what looked like a duck (the TGP video) and something else that I can't recall at the moment. Not those, surely?
What convinced me this phenomenon is really advanced NHI is not just 2 or 3 cases. It's a lot over a long period of time and different countries. Forget Nimitz and Ryan and you still have very credible cases that are hard to ignore or explain.
As a scientist you need the hard evidence, but I bet you dont need hard evidence when someone you trust tells you something.
Detective work involves spending many hours getting to know the witnesses, even just through videos. Then you start seeing patterns with different people across time and countries. Gets very spooky.
To give you a sense of how long it took me to go from 50% to 99% sure, about 4 years nearly daily listening to witnesses. I don't fall into a rabbit hole easily, and I still catch convincing hoaxes today. But this topic is serious and takes a ton of work. No one should talk about physics publicly unless they spent years studying it, why do you think it's different from this phenomenon? It's a very hard topic to research.
It's also not just something in the sky. People get frozen on the spot. No sound. Literally radiation injuries that the government eventually compensated (Rendlesham), encounters with typical grey looking beings,etc.
Two corroborating witnesses pointing their finger and telling the same story in court can put a person on the lethal injection slab and send them off to the afterlife. We have 100s of thousands of corroborating witnesses. People say "lets see the evidence" and don't realize that corroborating witness testimony is one of the strongest types of evidence in court.
The one thing Joe Rogan has and you lack, is the courage to challenge his guests when they are right in front of him. You going on his show and saying you don’t believe pilots after the fact is weak. You should have addressed that in your OWN podcast while they were there and made your point then.
Rogan doesn't always challenge them...far from it....but you are right about Keating since those guys were really 100% credible and i'm not easily fooled.
Brian, maybe it's time to pull your nose out of Degrasse Tysons ass and have a breath of fresh air.....
To be fair, Brian didn't actually say that he doesn't believe them, he was just stating that a few of the things they had said on his podcast were factually wrong. There's a difference.
Him being a scientist doesn't mean his skepticism is correct. And I bet those pilots know more about physics..than he knows about being a fighter pilot. I love how he trusts those pilots to defend the country but not to look at things!
Vert well put!
Sooo..... We're going to let peer pressure cause us to leave Fravor and Graves hung out to dry on Joe Rogan....
In eternity, telling the truth despite the taboos against doing so will resonate.
Their not being hung out to dry. He's talking about the fact that humans are not great data taking devices. Credentials don't make you immune to criticism. I'm a career graphic designer, I work with typography all day everyday. That doesn't make me immune to spelling mistakes I have to pre-emptively take actions to correct for them using my tools as opposed to my eyes as its really easy to read past a misspelt word if you've being looking at a block of text all day. Pilots see something unknown in a space with limited visual references human limits come into play. Think like how the moon looks bigger when it's low to the horizon because it's next to a reference gauge ie the ground.
Did they see something yes, was it breaking the laws of physics? We need more evidence.
All that said the black triangles were always a cover story for the b2 and F117 stealth bombers so I think this will turn out to be a similar clandestine weapons dev program.
@@_nebulousthoughts they're being hung out to dry because he knows the reason they are convinced by their encounters is not merely because they saw something with their eyes, there are insane levels of corroboration in those two cases. Brian is persuaded. He finds the two cases persuasive. He's just embarrassed to say it on Joe Rogan.
Agree, we should be unbiased about having them expose what they know.
Disappointing to see the scientists of our time drop the ball just like past generations.
If they dont get access to the classified data, than thats the right thing to do. It seems counterintuative but good faithedscience is about facts. Cant get to the facts without the data. Thats why they dismiss it. Thats just my opinion tho
@@peecon7 You are wrong! There are dozen of very credible and well trained witness.
@@peecon7or fight for the information to become declassified for study not just “oh they won’t give us the information so there’s nothing to it”.
True and saddening. A skeptical scientist is just the same as a faithful scientist. It's the last thing we need
Agree.
Your claim that, quote, 'Ryan Graves did not see anything with his eyes, he saw things on the radar' is in contradiction with Ryan Graves's testimony during the congressional hearing, where he claimed to have witnessed a black or silver cube surrounded with a lucid sphere, from a distance of about 15 feet (or maybe it was 50, but both cases are within visible range for a human being).
Please correct me if I'm wrong or inaccurate.
Ryan did not have personal eye contact with the described UAPs, black cubes in translucent spheres. I am still appalled by this interviewer.
I think he said he knew other people who have seen the cube with the sphere.
You are both wrong and inaccurate.
If David Fravor could be that wrong about something, I would be very frightened and concerned about who is flying US Military Fighter Jets, and if the pilots are that incompetant I'm surpised that dozens of civillian planes have not been shot down accidently.
Bottom line even Brian Keating doesn't know if there is or if there isnt. Same as the question. Does God exisy or he doesn't. Joe is a very patient many. He let's people get their thoughts across.
There is Way MORE evidence for Extraterrestrials than there ever will be for religious MYTHology.@@ronniedepue6452
Yeah I mean I hear him, people get stuff wrong. You see people you would expect to know things, not know things on video all day? Doctors? Police? Miltary? Elected people. But they're talking like David Fravor is some run of the mill AF guy refueling f-22's with a hang over. This guy was like at Top Gun, and protected LA during 9/11, and had hundreds of personal reporting into him, he was like a section leader. That dude probably knows what he saw. Eye witness testonmy is what it is, but that is pretty creditable .I've still yet to hear an explanation for how the radar metrics were fake or accounted for in disproval though.. I'd like to hear more debate other than 'a sensor issue and a new system' .. the scope of radar and number of objects captured has reportedly been far larger than a single ping incident.. and apparently often.. through multiple reporting apparatuses.
there were 2 2-seats planes
News flash...navy pilots are not the only experiencers of the uap phenomenon. Get a clue doc.
Even Obama said it was real and senator Reid.
@joannewilson6577 yes, along with Jimmy Carter, heads of the CIA, foreign governments, civilian pilots, etc, etc. But no, Dr Keating says they're all full of shit. He knows better bc he's a physicist.
I work as a analytic in fintech and have background in academia, problem with ufo reports is, if you take some csv (and there are these things from various reports you can find online) with ufo reports and run any analysis with focus on ufo characteristics (shape, size, behaviour), you get nothing. There is no consistency in the reports, its just noise. And anyone with moderate analytical skills can see it for themselves.
If you can't trust best pilots flying best fighters in biggest and most funded military on earth can't tell a balloon from a ufo to a bird are you serious? If you believe or listen to a ex game developer mick west over trained pilots you have confirmation bias Brian? Like other science channels like Cool world's had just 1 video about these UAPS and did they have a balance show no! They had I believe Frasier crane on.... When you already believe uaps are absolutely fake you use evidence or "experts" to support your beliefs
@@procerusgigas The consistency would be objects that move in anomalous ways we can't explain. l think that if the phenomenon is real, it would be pretty naive to think there was only 1 type-shape of UAPs.
It is kind of weird that Joe’s going down the ‘nothing to see here’ road regarding UAP’s. Keating obviously has a premeditated De Grasse -like bias on this issue. I think both gentlemen need to step back and open their eyes to what is real.
thanks
The problem is the sensor data from multiple platforms that people aren't able to view. I don't think Ryan Graves expects anyone to take his word for it, but with the government holding on to all the scientific data, the public isn't left with much else
David Fravor also referenced radar data of objects exiting and re-entering the atmosphere at high rates being the reason for their investigation. If scientists were serious about wanting evidence, instead of criticizing the whistleblowers and eyewitnesses for telling their stories, they should be requesting data like this from the military.
I feel sorry for folks who actually believe this nonsense, and anger at the gov't shills who push this like they pushed covid fear. It's a cover to put nukes in space.
So well said, i was extremely disappointed with alot of Dr. Keating's statements on Joe Rogan's show. Ang I watch Dr Keating's channel very regularly.
A combination of disingenuous statements, and alluding to that he only does the UFO, Eric Weinstein episodes for the clicks, which was fairly obvious tbh. But to be so dismissive in 2023 seems like an extreme position to take even for a scientist. I feel like his religious beliefs may color his anti - extraordinary phenomena perspective
"It's not new physics. It's a new perspective on old physic."-Pais
Please do more homework on Salvatore Pais's work on "The Super-Force." We need scientists to stop postering their public image and start being real scientists seeking the truth(not conformation of dogmatic hypothesis).
You are a brilliant experimental physicist. So, please run an experiment on Salvatore Pais work. Test "The Pais effect" and then go down in history for doing so.
This has already been discovered and is being utilized, but because of the secret nature of it all, who gets the credit is up for grabs.
I am just one of 8 billion, a random guy in the comments.
My comments are just another person rambling, but what I'm saying is what will be known to all soon.
The "Pais effect" is a very real physical phenomenon, and it can't be hidden forever.
What did you mean by "postering". Posturing? Bolstering? Even so... Also the US military has sponsored testing of Pais' work to the tune of 3 years and $500k, to produce no favorable or interesting result. I'm not saying it's obviously nonsense, but the idea that it is ignored for conspiratorial, personal or political reasons is explicitly wrong. So if you're predicting an impending breakthrough, you must be privy to a new piece of information that changes the above facts. If so, please share.
I watched the episode so IDK if the relevant part is in this clip but I think you'll find spoofing a phased array radar like the Princeton's is a little trickier than in your WW2 example. This is further magnified by the fact that they were also simultaneously observed by the radar on the Nimitz and the E-2 Hawkeye aircraft. Also think it's kind of hilarious how you're keen to point out that the warning areas aren't like Area51 and can be flown through by any random in a Cessna, but then go on to suggest that they'd be testing super-secret US tech out there. The reason they're often seen in military areas is more likely because that's where the assets with sensors capable of detecting them often are. You should talk to Kevin Knuth on your show to have the case made by another scientist (hilarious that you reference Mick West btw, you should ask your friend Eric what he thinks of his approach to this) because you don't value pilots' expertise in using aviation sensors to differentiate airborne targets enough to believe that they can tell a balloon or a distant jet from an anomalous target using them.
This comment was on point !
Top gun pilots are smart. If you don’t have a PHD or win a a Nobel prize ,I Don’t believe you . Dam , Best aviation experts..
You asked Ryan a question that I had suggested on Twitter. So I can put that and that Joe watched on my resume 😁
I like the way you asked Joe for advice on how to handle a particular situation when you think your guest is wrong.
In the case of Ryan, I think you could have confronted him with the argument that nobody's a trained observer and people make mistakes. He should accept that, and probably would.
But really, and I admire your open-mindedness deeply, brother Bryan. 🙏
But Fravor and Dietrich (and two others) see an object the size of a small school bus moving above the water, erratically like a ping-pong ball.
There just might have truly been something physics-defying flying there, if not physics-denying.
It's quite a convincing story, especially once you know more of likewise convincing stories from credible people (being very critical before calling someone credible).
If you're not convinced, OK and understandable, but that's also telling about you. And you should accept that, and you probably will.
But you're an American, you should know at least a bit about the main characters of the Roswell story, from a historical perspective.
There's All aircraft specialist and intelligence officer Major Jesse Marcel (pilot), his base commander (and pilot) Col. William H. Blanchard, and Walter Haut, Blanchard's public information officer.
Just read their Wiki pages to find out how credible they are. Blanchard was the commanding officer of the only AF base in the world with heavy nuclear striking capabilities. I'd say very credible. And it was he who issued the press release that the RAAF had captured a flying disk. Major Jesse Marcel is the one who spent a day picking up all the debris from the crash. And Major Marcel was in charge of all security and intelligence on atomic tests in the US and the Pacific. I'd say very credible. And he's always been convinced that the material that he found was not of this Earth.
He had to keep his mouth shut for more than 30 years, but he was very clear and credible about it when he retired. And Walter Haut, the information officer who assisted the base commander with the press release about the disks, is very clearly backing Major Jesse Marcel's story. Just read their Wiki pages and watch what retired all-aircraft specialist Jesse Marcel says.
Historically so important, it's a moral duty for every American ;-)
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I find it annoying when you are talking to someone, and they talk like they are talking to themselves. This guy is speaking into a microphone, yet you can barely hear him.
I'm pretty sure Graves and Fravor said they saw the cube and the tic tac outside their cockpit windows with their own eyes in addition to their instruments
Graves did not see anything other than his radar anomalies, Fravor and 3 other pilots watched the TicTac with their own eyes. Other members of Graves squadron had reported cubes with spheres with their own eyes. If I’m not mistaken
I don’t agree with Brian Keating on Pilot’s observations of UAps as it relates to observations; if you do something often enough, you will have a better sense of what you observe in that environment than the layman, even a scientist … I think his scientistic tendencies to judge everything based on that process may be exposing a form of bias that even he cannot gauge.
If it isn’t in a peer reviewed paper, it didn’t happen. That is their world. These scientists tend to leave stuff out, like Graves didn’t see it with his eyes, but his squadron mates did and almost crashed into one. There is a strong confirmation bias that only a scientist can make a discovery. I don’t trust a government that keeps the Kennedy assassination secret after 70 years and I don’t trust these academics who hunger for awards and funding. I know these guys and many of the award winners aren’t the guys who made the discoveries.
Well said!
Look at the title of this guys video. He should change it to blatant self-promoting influencer want to be. And of course he’s biased as hell and completely clueless. He hearts his own comments…. Give me a break.
Apparently, the 'system' was NEW so the pilots had NOT done it "often enough"!
People from government have been coming forward about this for years. How can they provide the evidence if it’s classified and guarded. They can’t just show up with piece of metal or even a picture, they will be mocked, ridiculed, and loose their careers.
All good points Dr Keating but don't forget that radar operators on ships have reported and corroborated many of these sightings. If it's all down to glitchy radar then the USA military sounds amateurish and is in a parlous state of ill preparedness...
I'm not sure which is more troublesome...?
I didn't know u went on JRE! I gotta check that out! I've actually been looking forward to it
Dr Keating has done the right thing as a scientist in expressing his suspicions. Let's take these testimonies as an invitation to scientists to go and collect more substantial scientific evidence, so that we all may reach definitive conclusions on the enigma posed by UAPs.
Sounds nice in theory, but I still see most scientists, refuse to do the substantial evidence collection on the topic. One of the few scientists I’m actually seeing do it. is Avi. But Despite the testimony, most scientists are still too busy scoffing and refusing to go out and collect scientific evidence on it unfortunately.
and what has the scientific community done exactly to prove or disprove the allegations, the sightings, the data ? big fat nothing. all they do is trying to discredit the whole issue
@@an-cx1ho Sometimes believers want something that's as nebulous as a dream to be true - that's how religions and cults work. However, that's not science, and it's not even close to proof.
No need to waste more taxpayer money on this rubbish after project bluebook.
The gov't wants to put nukes in space and this is their cover.
Regrading all this ufo/UAP/alien stuff. The thing that I always come back to and sadly will always wonder… if you can begin to grasp the size of the universe (which for a human is barely possible to put into perspective) but if you just enter the taste of an idea of how big it is and how many stars, planets, moons and debris are scattered throughout the space… 💭 I keep coming back to WHY? Forget about if there is other life or if there’s not. Regardless if we are alone or not… what the hell is the purpose of a planet having living organisms on it, and some (us) that have a degree of understanding and innovating… and to this day not a single person can come up with any reasonable explanation beyond a simple guess of:
-maybe we were created by a god (religious) figure of ultimate control
-maybe we were created by another species
-maybe there is no purpose as is there is truly nothing to understand and no explanation to find it exists simply for existing
But all those answers are really disappointing.
Personally I'm not so phased by this question, I'm more of the mentality "why not??"
The planets, stars, and life seems an expression of the universe. Whatever the origins. Even if we never find the exact explanations, we can attempt to do so with more understanding, regarding mentality and (scientific) knowledge. Exploring space further, to find out more answers and for sure more mysteries .
Purpose is a kind of a human concept, when you look at nature, things can have various purposes depending on what you choose to focus on or depending on the situation. You link purpose to understanding, but then you should realize we can understand things around us. The explanation you desire might be framed very differently, or it's something only you can find or answer for yourself.
This openness is beautiful I think. Our consciousness can create purposes.
Everthing is connected, everything you do has an effect, the smallest things can have a huge effect, most unforeseen and rippling through the universe because we exist and are part of the whole.
You said "sadly" that you still wonder, but you can look at it differently and say fortunately we still wonder, and perhaps fortunately that might be forever the case too
Regardless of the scientific finding , most data points 1 dirección. A God .
A creator , issue is some have difficulty accepting it
It's your fear talking.
Its likely what we ultimately evolve into. They probably created us. Kinda how humans look at the apes like “oh we used to be that!” The consciousness thats checking up on earth is just admiring their ant farm and making sure that we dont burn the place down. They arent coming from a distant galaxy. They have been here longer than man, and have the ability to move through time and or the multiverse. And by them i dont mean little green men. These uap are likely just probes. And i believe they are controlled by some form of supreme consciousness. We have no way of even wrapping our heads around it. Just my opinion!
@@wukaos Belief is irrelevant. God cannot exist 100%. Any mind is more complex than building blocks required to create such mind. Material must come first, so Universe started on its own.
They are still seeing them regularly and have been been witnessing UAP's for almost a century in the modern era...
The 'Catch 22' UFO argument from the typical scientist goes like this: "There isn't any scientific evidence for UFOs." Right, because there's no serious scientific research on UFOs. "Why should scientists waste time researching something which has no evidence?" and so forth.
Exactly. Scientists demand that we civilians scientifically prove the UFO issue but they won't touch the subject. They will rather conduct their meaningless studies that contribute nothing to human knowledge.
Not true. There was a project bluebook. You either want to make us believe your ufo religion or you're trying to trick us into falling for another gov't con. This time to put nukes in space.
There’s nothing wrong with questioning the pilots. The problem is you’re not questioning the ones above them which is the problem; the gate keepers of this info. That’s why people like me are irritated. You guys need to do a deep dive like any other topic but you don’t
Even observation can be used as fact in science if it is observed enough and the majority of people in the ideal enviroment for this would be these pilots that seem to see these UAP's a fair bit. I wouldn't say it's concrete evidence but it is evidence.
A pilot will see the birds while the scientist will see nothing since he is searching for birds nest.
The egocentrism of scientists makes them believe that we are alone in the univers
What a silly statement to make
Couldn’t agree more
BTW, a skeptical scientist is just the same as a faithful scientist. It's the last thing we need
The egocentrism of TH-cam comment dweebs to believe anything they hear even without proof
The problem is, we are like Bernard. Even if the evidence was in front of our eyes, it wouldn't have looked like anything to us.
humans"we finally spotted aliens"
aliens:"shcshcbsksk antosckh"
How do you simultaneously say that sensor data is more important than visual data and that because they didn't see the craft it may not be what they think it is?
One of the most chilling facts Fravor revealed was that the craft he encountered actively jammed his on-board radar - an act of war. Factor that into any conclusion you come to with regard to whether it was alien, foreign military or our own government. It's a hostile act no matter how you slice it.
An act of war according to our protocols, sure.
And sure, if "it" started attacking or somehow caused our aircrafts to crash - then you could consider it an act of war.
But considering this might be foreign military or extraterrestrial, etc - (at the least, more technologically advanced than us) - in that scenario I wouldn't consider jamming, an act of war.
The same way a beekeeper isn't declaring war against bees when he "jams" them by spraying smoke around their hive, to collect a bit of honey.
Edit: Point being "it" probably has far more powerful weapons than we do, thus merely jamming our radar or weapons systems to ensure nobody gets hurt - would be nonsensical to consider as hostility.
You're completely ignoring just how much training pilots go through to learn observation.
Their very lives depend on it.
Being able to judge the altitude, size and heading of other aircraft is arbitrary for them. They dont get to fly the hot rods without being proven observers first and foremost.
Joe needs a reality check on the UFO stuff. Thanks.
There is a 150 page report on the tictac that was done by the government that shows these things were dropping down to sea level almost, loitering and then returning to space.
So when its convenient to you, you trust the government LMAO
@@TheMasterashtonoh the idiot has their something to say. How about this if you don't trust the government on what they are saying then that is also a problem that needs to be solved. Either way you look at it, its a problem if they are lying its a problem and its something its there from other worlds and being hidden also is a problem.
Qualifying their observations. Shows that you are unbiased. Good job
very packed episode; deep
we will never get real hard evidence about ET but the talk generate money and why the show will go on.
Carl Sagan nailed it years ago
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
(eyewitness testimony isn't extraordinary)
It’s the overwhelming number of credible people that have made similar claims that warrant investigation, either everyone is lying or they’re telling the truth, either way we should demand answers.
A biased perspective on such a wild subject does not lead to a clean and balanced conclusion. Every "skeptic" that I have ever listened to was so adamant in debunking or proving the argument that it became an unbalanced analysis on already spotty data and information. When an elite fighter pilot claims that he actually chased down a piece of unknown technology in high to low altitudes that was preforming impossible maneuvers, I'm inclined to listen. I don't understand why people are so ready to shut down the professional men and women who patrol our skies. Everyone seems to forget that not just anybody gets to become a fighter pilot. These people are literally the best of the best. Even the "mediocre" pilots are incredibly impressive with their knowledge and skills.
A skeptical scientist is just the same as a faithful scientist. It's the last thing we need
This guy has Neil deGrasse Tyson syndrome.
The status quo is never changed by the status quo
I am a physicist = I attempt to debunk anything that would affect my federal grant payoffs. Uap believers need to be silenced and ridiculed in order for my team to be front and center.
Exactly
So true
Yep..
Ignorance = people who think like you.
You obviously miss the point
I see many time people who build thei opinion based on somethin that some else told them. You are discrediting a fighter pilot because of something your flight instructor told you. I also saw on another broadcast how someone did not believe Grush because someone he knew told him that his security clearance was nothing special.
Yeah, but what about the Goddamn 'Biologics'?
Brian's thought process and method of expression I find hard to follow. Something seems to pull him in different directions. At first it feels like motive or disbelief but then I wonder if it's ego. He's too concerned with how he's perceived I think, is he getting the respect he deserves. I could be wrong but that's what it feels like, and it probably blinds him. He would see more, distill more get to the point more if this weren't the case, I think.
Very well put Brian
Numerous aircraft crashes have occurred because pilots became disoriented and didn't trust their instruments
The human senses and memory are probably the least reliable methods of measurement
The radar and instruments on a fighter plane have probably not been developed to measure UAP aspects. They probably have been developed to detect a target so that it can be shot at or bombed
As someone who used to deal with manufacturing quality then the proven accuracy and precision of your measurement instruments is critical. That's why I think that Avi Loeb's suggestion that astronomers should develop and install standard UAP measurement and data collection systems
You are wrong! They saw those every day for months Ryan Graves said and for the tic tac event in 2004 they saw a lot of those UFO from 3 different radars (one radar on the Princeton and on the F-18 and one on Boeing E-3A Airborne Warning & Control System (AWACS) aircraft, with their distinctive radar domes mounted on the fuselage, which provide the Alliance with air surveillance, command and control, battle space management and communications for a week and dozen of witness saw them from the Princeton again for days with their own eyes....
How often do aircrafts crash on the average? It almost never happen for the reasons that you pointed out. I think Brian scientistic instinct to be a skeptical contrarian kicked in during these interviews.
@@TheHighlanderprime pilot error accounts for the majority of aircraft crashes (around 50%).
There are approx 1000 small aircraft crashes per year in US alone, with pilot error being the cause 70% of the time. Most don't really get reported as any deaths in such accidents are usually quite low
When it comes to observations and measurement then the human is the weak link in the system
@@philjameson292 But the radar operator on the Princeton saw them for days on his brand new radar and he saw them too with his own eyes like dozen on the Princeton deck with binoculars because it lasted 5 days plus the radar on the F-18 plus the radar on the AWACS...
And that is just one of dozen of events that the DOD said that they cannot explain in 2022..we are not in 1922...
We’re not talking here about a one-time event. Pilots were seeing these things on a daily basis! I’m a Cessna pilot (for coincidence, at same base airport as Brian) and used to be a (brain mapping) scientist too, just like Brian. His argument doesn’t hold water in this case. This was much more about him not departing from scientific dogma. Unfortunately, science has become a religion. That’s why I left.
Whatever u do Brian don't explain a black cube in a spere FLYING.
These craft have high speed around 5 mach to 10 mach . Much High speed much means much guration force means force will be applied. So does it means these craft know how to Espace from guration force. But its not necessary if any pilot is seating inside and flying craft . AI technology must be there in respect to fly the craft
@2:50 No actually, it does mean that he could very well be better. he may well have a much better sense of something in terms of its speed, distance, size, etc.
what this great scientist fails to remember is ryan greeves was the one to speak out, out of a big group of pilots, he took verbal and visual reports from his military group, and they didnt report on these for years believing this may be a glitch. he even suggested it might be other goverment secret ops, so it took longer for himself and others to convince themself that this is not a AMERICAN device and that it needs to be investigated. he was extra clear in the hearing closing arguments. by saying "if UAP are foreing drones, is a national security problem, if it is something els, is a issue for science"
If you can fly solo legally, you’re a pilot. No point of flight training is easy. Every credential you have on your pilot license was gained through an extreme amount of some type of emotion. Rather that be anxiety stress excitement or whatever. That being said, a private pilot has no idea what commercial pilots see likewise a commercial pilot doesn’t see or knows what a scientist does. So that reference was a bit off in my opinion.
The SR71 was built with 50s/60s tech. Fast forward 60 years
If you want to fight in mixed martial arts, all you need is tai chi………oh, and a baseball bat……..
You can go very far just with striking,look at Conor...
Yea I’m not buying that. A nerd that reads books and uses his eyes in a lab is not going to have better recognition skills that an athlete who plays the most dangerous game and has been highly trained in visual recognition and cues.
Did he say, that Fravor did not see it with his eyers????? 3:29 ? In the congressional hearing, he said he saw this with his open naked eye.
Her name is Alex.
But hold on a second, are you saying the infrared red light shot video was not real? Or are you saying it was a man made object?
A lot of 'scientists' are going to be looking real silly real soon
It. Is. A. Distraction.
What about the a new Annunaki ? Or the ant people?
Come on man...yeah they may not have seen something with there own eyes or whatnot, but this evidence is on multiple outlets.
No what keating didnt mention here is that his co-pilots are the ones that did see the physical cube objects as it dived bombed them. He’s leaving out crucial parts of the story.
Theyve been reporting these sightings. These same exact sightings since the 1940s.
Head. Sand.
Are UFO's real?
Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick says they are.
@@user-oo4vi3dg6d Of course Unidentified Flying Objects are real.
Do you mean “Is Earth being visited by spacecraft from another planet?”?
- It’s a long way to another planet that could support intelligent life. Not only would that life have to exist but it would have to be capable of traveling here.
That’s highly unlikely.
At this point if you don't believe NHI are real... You are on denial.... Period.
Unpersuasive it is.
I want to believe the news… but why does it always have to smell a bit iffy? 🛸💚♾️
There is no autopilot for landing on a carrier, well maybe they might have better tech assistance today but back during Captain Dale 'Snort' snodgrass's day that was with the help of the LSOs to a degree via radio and it was 95% pilot coordination landing on the boat during rough seas 🌊day or night how dare you question Navy Aviators brian ... how dare you that's disrespectful...
You would be helping the Catholic Church imprison Galileo if you were around back then. New ideas challenge the gatekeepers, gatekeepers try to kill, discredit, imprison, instead of thorough investigation and also trying to help get the information that we have classified that at one point might have been necessary but has been kept locked for 80 years.
That's the first thing I thought. When you spent your entire adult productive years learning an old or faltering paradigm it's hard to let go.
Bluebeam....
Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence
So what are you saying your eyes are better than instruments lol wake up dude
Ok...
All I hear this guy saying is “blah blah blah aliens, are not real“
What more evidence is required than Bob Lazar...
I seriously think that Brian Keating is a sly clandestine Government debunker. For me, he has that coy vibe.
These guys are scared of being ostracized by the academics and scientific community so they babble around the topic. It's a legit thing to look into with major implications.
I would believe a trained Navy pilot with 1000s of hours of flight and observation over an armchair pseudo scientist. lol
What about the Mosul orb? The pentagon don't know what it is. It's a metallic sphere the size of a basketball that flies at great speed.
yes you know a lot.and I don't fly a plane.but all what's gone in in larst five years changes nothing.even if they wernt credible And they are.
not understanding how something works isnt new physics, its just not understanding how something works.
im wondering if this propulsion is attenuating interaction with the higgs field... particles with mass, can then go fast like a photon/gluon. Only ideas...
Dumbest comment ever. That's like saying if we discover a new element it's not a new element it's just something we didn't understand. Using that logic nothing can ever be new. Smh
Brian you to intelligent to be skeptical about this look I believe they are here embedded and have been for a long time probably 1 %are interstellar there is another species here believe it brother I know it’s mind opening but it’s true
The reason why the pilots testimony and observations are better than yours Mr. Keating is that they have thousands of hours of experience in that environment more than you.
They have 1000s of hours seeing UFOs? Do they have more experience than me at using advanced telescopes, doing data analysis and sensor systematic error analysis?
You are literally trying to tell pilots who quite literally seem the same thing everyday for years (UAP) and are still seeing them regularly… that they can’t be trusted with what they are seeing… this is the most ridiculous thing. This blind ridiculousness is one of there’s some why trust in “scientist” is at an all time low
@@DrBrianKeating They have thousands of hours identifying aerial targets using their sensors. I suggest reading SCU’s Forensic Analysis and Knuth et al’s Flight Characteristics papers so you can understand the quality and quantity of the observations that were made and why this can’t be waved away so easily. You’ll say eyewitness observations are unreliable and that’s why scientists use instruments, yet when those observations are corroborated by multiple instruments you’ll just say that the data is fake or in error. If you want physicists to have access to that data, stand with the pilots and demand that it be made available - taking the position you have here is only helping those who want to keep it all locked away.
@philliprobinson129 they see it everyday and still no pictures. Good one. You alien nuts can't keep ur story straight. Some of u say aliens don't want to be seen then you say they are seen daily. Make up your minds lmao
@@DrBrianKeating Damn, for a well educated man you sure are quite dim. Until you brush up on your comprehension skills I'll translate.
He said that they have thousands of hours of experience in that environment more than you. The environment in question is the airspace. Pilots spend more time in the air than anyone else, including you. He never said they have thousands of hours of seeing UFOs, using telescopes, doing data analysis or sensor error analysis.
Do you wanna know what happens when you spend a lot of time in the air, though? You receive plenty of training in different planes and witness a lot of different aircraft and their capabilities. That makes you qualified to tell when something up there is abnormal. Looking through telescopes and analyzing data is not the same as being up there and seeing things first-hand.
The only the thing that’s fake is them acting like they don’t believe in them , of course they believe in them they just can’t say certain stuff or they will get canceled, just look at Huberman
Ego boys club
Brian’s question for him as a podcaster brought me to joes episode with Candace Owens. I don’t think she knew exactly what she was getting into and she made it seem like she was heavily into grifting.
ohhhh brian cut brian off!!
I thought Graves said he has seen them? Just not the particular one from the released video… idk maybe I’m misremembering
he saw it... these 2 idiots haven't done their research and are lazy Ryan's account “a dark gray or a black cube inside of a clear sphere” that got within 50 feet of his squadron’s lead aircraft.
When you ask a scientist to believe what all these witnesses are describing and saying, you are asking him to discount everything he has been taught up to that point. That's a lot to take in. It would be like going to a person in their forties, and telling them their parents weren't their parents, and that they had been kidnapped as a baby. That person is probably going to want to see more evidence of that being true than an uninvolved bystander would want to see.
Where's the hard data. Seeing things isnt provable data
@@skreign , it is in the real world.
being a US phenomenon! that is fishy
It is a world-wide phenomenon. Catch up.
You lose me whenever you whisper, but it's not only you...
Youre the man Brian!
this guy seriously needs to hear himself talk and work on making sense
4 pilots saw it and captured on Radar. Case closed. OPEN YOUR MIND
Brian, you should wear more often a T-Shirt. Looks great!
I want Brian to explain how the UAP knew where the CAP point was. I'll wait.
Dr brian asked some great legitimate questions that no other scientist came upon,everyone riding the wave. ❤
Thanks !!