Another part of a video series from Wordonfire.org. Bishop Barron will be commenting on subjects from modern day culture. For more visit www.wordonfire.org
You are in a very real sense right! If all ideas have equal merit, then inevitably no ideas at all would have any merit, because the concept of truth versus falsehood (which even our very lives depend on) would have no meaning!
so.. God was born in a high palace which sounded "convert o miserable humans" 10 times every `7 minutes and 25 seconds and he was so totally intolerant to the scum, there wasn't one Christian around him at his time, so he gave everyone till the end of time to convert at least 1 billiion times... thank God God has never been tolerant! Oh... God killed every living sole (fish) to revenge himself of the death of his Son
I’m currently in the process of becoming a Catholic, after spending my first 30-odd years of life in the Anglican Church I was brought up in. It’s an amazing journey into the heart of Christianity.
@Thomassav7 I am not catholic, and I am disgusted by your attitude. Really. Pedophiles become priests because they could access children without suspicion. A real priest is not a pedophile. My brother was in a boarding school and was accosted by a teacher. So Teachers are organized pedophiles!. Pedophiles choose professions that are suitable to them. Scout leaders, youth leaders, ( I met a guy who was 'pedophiled' by the youthleader of a gun club), teachers, and yes, priests also.
@JOHN RHEINHEIMER - STUDENT Nonesense. The bishop of Rome made himself the so called vicor of Christ and later on caused the split aftet which the papist church became the most corrupt and murderous organization on Earth.
@@davelong9055 ""he Nazi Party was staffed with Jesuits and high ranking Catholics." Yes that is why Hitler & Co expressed deep loathing for the Catholic church and Catholics. Most of those "high ranking Catholics" were Catholics in name alone, if at all (as many of them rejected Catholicism openly, like Hitler), as the Catholic faith, and Christianity in general, held ideas diametrically opposed to the ideals of national socialism. Many Catholics were also in the resistance, like the Weisse Rose. In fact most clandestine anti-nazi organizations were mainly composed by Catholics or had Catholicism at its root. The Catholic church itself, like many others, suffered persecution under nazism. In fact about 1/3 of German Catholic priests were sent to concentration camps
@@intelanalyst78 because they did not openly oppose the regime but this does not make them collaborators or supporters. Unless you want to claim all Germans during that time are guilty as well hmmmmmmmmm
@@Entropy3ko Hmm...How about:..."If you read the Bible you can only be Christian"?(Or Jewish? )----I hate to burst your comfy little bubble, but contrary to Roman Catholic belief, Roman Catholicism is NOT the be-all and end-all of the Christian Faith, and you're not in charge of God, so get over yourselves...PEACE!! 😎😎😎
what is the big difference between Love & Tolerance: here are some points to ponder: Tolerance says, "You must allow me to have my way." Love responds, "I must do something harder: I will plead with you to follow the right way, because I believe you are worth the risk.
I was an Episcopalian for many years - born and raised. But, it was the almost Unitarian shift of the Episcopal Church that drove me to the Catholic faith. Brilliant analysis by the Bishop!
Hello Bill, I left the Catholic church and belong to a Reformed Episcopal church that does not allow women clergy. Not all Episcopal churches have gone Unitarian.
“Love is to will the good of the other. Real love means you’re not going to tolerate lots of things. Real love means you have to exclude certain things.” Thank you for that discernment.
Correct... if you really love the child. You will not allow them to eat cake for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Just because they "Say".... it's what, they WANT.
As a Protestant, I greatly appreciate Bishop Barron and the wisdom he brings to bear on this and many other issues. As liberal lies and progressive poison have spread throughout our nation and culture, the church should stand firm against all compromise with evil. Unfortunately, far too many churches have done so. The voices that stand firm in the faith will always have my support.
sounds like you should find yourself a nice somewhat traditional catholic church. i recomend a byzantine or maronite church, but if you can find a dioscese with a bishop like Bishop Barron you'll do fine.
I was confirmed a catholic yesterday. I was a cradle Anglo-Catholic and am now in full communion with the seat of Saint Peter. I credit this video as one of the strongest arguments for why I should convert. Thank you Word on Fire!
Tim Kiseljak so complex no one has the same interpretation... there’s contradictions, hoards of immorality, no one knows who wrote it, it has been mistranslated.. half the people that believe it have never even read it. Are you one of those people that bc it doesn’t make sense believes there’s some hidden deeper means you can’t explain 😂
Tim Kiseljak well first off you are very wrong about it being ok for others to interpret it and think differently. The church prosecuted those who thought differently... today they don’t prosecute anyone bc they lack power.. if I interpret the Bible in a way that brings me to believe divorce is ok, the church says I need to repent, if to me masturbation is not immoral, the church says I will burn for eternity if I don’t confess. If you disagree on any mortal sin, the church says your soul is doomed, so you are not free to interpret it differently, it is interpreted for you and you must abide by their way otherwise you will be ostracized or even excommunicated. Almost none of the Bible is philosophical. I’ve read it, which is one of the reasons why I’m no longer a believer at all.
Tim Kiseljak I think to tell people they are going to hell for offenses that offend no one (except God in their eyes) is extreme. I don’t doubt you doubt that I’ve read the Bible, if I did, you still doubt I read it with sincerity or with serious thought.. it’s hard to comprehend that someone can properly interpret the Bible and still find it ridiculous, this is a kind of mental barrier that remains in believers, they want to believe rational people will always be convinced the Bible speaks truth, bc this reassures their judgement and sanity, let me tell you, you are wrong. I was a Catholic for 25 years.. I know the patterns of thought that cross through your mind, I’m not saying I can read yours, but I understand you. If I point out absurdity in the Bible you will run to the New Testament, when I point the absurdity there, you will say you interpret it differently or that it is mysterious. We will disagree on much until we debate the basics of biblical credibility and the existence of God.
As an Anglican priest, I am ashamed that my church is in communion with people like Jefferts Schori. What she says is ultimately blasphemy, confusing the work of God for the work of the devil (as Jesus says of the scribes who had said he had cast out devils by Beelzebub).
Sts. Brendan, Bede, Alban, Augustine, Ita, Dymphna, Edwin, Edmund, Wilfrid, Columba, Oswin, Aelred, Dunstan, Hilda, Chad, and all the rest of our noble fathers -- were Catholic. St. Augustine's letters to Pope Gregory establishes this and if not, then The Synod of Whitby 664 hammers it home. I had to do so many gymnastics as an Anglican priest to keep up the historical facade of legitimate apostolic authority. I'm afraid the War of Roses established Liberalism within the foundations of England qua its status as a Liberal Nation State. The Lay Investiture Controversy was "resolved" by the creation of modern England, France, Spain, etc. with the formation of this new form of political structure. This solution says Civil Authority first, Ecclesial Second. I'm afraid The Enlightenment was thus doomed to win over England, and this sort of silliness within Anglicanism was in its very core like a seed waiting to bloom. Whatever The State says, is what the Anglican Church of that specific State, must ultimately bend the knee too. You see the silly gymnastics The Queen must go throw over this marriage fiasco. Why can't she say, "To be a good sister, is to be a good queen, is to be a good Christian?" This is why England, like the U.S., is doomed, it is ultimately a State-run church, whether physically or spiritually, or both. No matter of conversation about "agreement" or saying who is "heretical" and who is not can come out of agreements -- one needs Authority, not democracy. The solution to all this ethical debacle is simple: Ecclesial First. Civil Second. I used to be an Episcopal priest. It's time to give it up, come home Joshua. I'm much happier, and you can be too, "for my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." ordinariate.net/ From across the Atlantic, Gregory
Joshua...I will pray daily that you are in the end, received into the arms of the ancient and true Faith. Come home, dear brother in Christ. Thomas More, pray for him!
The Episcopal Bishop's interpretation is absolutely horrifying. This is perhaps one of the reasons so many Episcopalians are converting to Catholicism.
+Bobbie Barajas Those Episcopalians aren't converting to Catholicism. They're branching out within the Anglican communion and leading a more orthodox fellowship called the Anglican Church of North America.
Bobbie Barajas I was baptized episcopal, my dad's faith, raised going to pentecostal and evangelical churches with my born again mother, and converted to catholicism in high school. my mom is Irish and was raised catholic but left the church in her early 20s. now I'm 29 and just go to a non denominational church.
@@midgebattelle9084 May God continue to bless Donald Trump & may God let the evil one drag his servant the abortionist, credibly accused of sexual assault, Joe Biden to the bowels of Hell, if he does not repent.
I could watch and listen to your videos all day, I think I have watched them all ! I returned to my Catholic faith about 6 years ago after venturing out and studying many other religions, faiths etc, but coming back to the Catholic church has been the most beautiful of homecomings and i really have to say that your books and videos have really been instrumental in this journey home. We need more hugely intelligent personalities like yourself which would hopefully bring back the masses into the churches again., as it has done for me. More More More please and congratulations 'Bishop Barron' ! God bless.
+Rolf Lorenz I have a similar faith journey and I am happy to know that others have also found their way home, after diverse explorations. It just makes the experience of being Christian in the Catholic tradition that much richer and rewarding! "Sometimes you need to lose yourself to find yourself" the saying goes and I tend to agree with that. I too have become a fan of Fr Barron and I hope that his ministry continues to inspire others in the way they have inspired us! :)
Same. When people leave the Church, it's because they understand their faith and were in the faith. That is what happened to me. But last year, I did begin to slowly come back, and from October and on, after I attended this wonderful Catholic youth event (for teens and up), and thanks to God, and for my mother for buying tickets & coming with, I really have notice a change. It's made me want to learn & protect my faith even more. I see how true & right Catholicism is. Bishop Barron is a gift from God, and may God give us more brilliant minds like these.
When the 20 year old behind me at work said her biggest pet peeve was shaming of any kind, which reflects the growing opinion of many of the youth I knew there was problem.
Those who extoll the virtues of tolerance are rarely tolerant, in fact they just create more boxed thought and behaviour. Bishop Barron (as always) gives us wise food for thought. Thanks for sharing.
I'm a recent convert, and this video makes me absolutely LOVE my decision. The Catholic Church isn't afraid to put its foot down on this new-age societal bullcrap. What this Episcopalian bishop is preaching about is exactly why I decided to become Christian. SIN is the cause of all evil in the world. Not some cis-hetero-patriarchy bogeyman. Thank you so much for this video Bishop Barron!
Too bad it's afraid to put it's foot down when it comes to child molestation. Shame it wasn't "new age". Maybe then they'd actually do something about it.
5:50 "Love is to will the good of the other!" Well put! Its that type of teaching of the Episcopalian Bishop why many are lead astray even some of my relatives.
No doubt. The episcopal church condones, promotes, and celebrates homosexuality and makes NO attempt to help those poor souls. Which is why we left that church and came home to Rome.
I'm currently a practicing Episcopalian, but it is Catholic men like Bishop Barron here that have convinced me to one day convert to Catholicism, as I intend to do at some point. The far left teachings of the Episcopal church have left me with little comfort among those who claim to follow scripture and church tradition, yet actively oppose it. Myself and many other Episcopalians have plan to migrate to the Catholic Church for these very reasons.
Fr. Robert Barron Hello Father Barron, I would love to correct you on something. We are Curaçao and not Curaçao, Venezuela. Curaçao is an autonomous country, and caribbean island within the Dutch kingdom. I'm proud to say that we are very christian nation, with a rich catholic tradition. And as a catholic christian born and raised on this beautiful island, I would like to thank you for your work. You have made a fan here on the island. May God keep blessing you. And one last thing the "ç" is read as an "s". So you write Curaçao, but you say Curasao :D Greetings from Curaçao!!
I am so glad I left the Episcopal Church. I moved on to the ACNA and feel quite at home. While I don't think I will move to Roman Catholicism, I am grateful to have found your videos Bishop!
@@bradleyhardingham6747 I fear so because I have to be honest. However I am very interested in the religious traditions, at the moment I am reading about Welsh druidism and I just ordered a couple of books about zoroastrianism. There are lots of wise thoughts in the religious traditions and even if you're not a believer, there are lots of things to learn from them.
"Toleration" and "inclusiveness" aren't listed among Christian virtues. Sadly, there are many misguided CATHOLICS today who will argue for silence in the face of (if not outright acceptance of) all manner of abominations - in the name of these double edged values. The path to heaven is a narrow one, requiring us to resist evil and embrace purity and holiness. Love the sinner, certainly - but reject sin, and urge the world away from it. That's our mandate, not slothful acquiescence to all things.
I hate when they yell "do not judge". It's twisting tolerance. We can't judge the state of someone's soul..like saying 'this Episcopalian bishop is definitely possessed' lol...But we can say that she is wrong in her interpretation and correct her and most importantly pray for her.
Padre Robert, soy peruano y lo conocí a través de la serie Catolicismo por EWTN, me agradan mucho sus videos y aprender de ellos, aunque me cueste entenderlos porque el traductor traduce desde los subtítulos del inglés y a veces no tienen mucha coherencia gramatical. Rezaré por usted y por su apostolado, ya que me ha ayudado mucho - e imagino que no solo a mí, sino a muchos más - a entender nuestra fe católica. Gracias!
@Francisco nuestra parroquia tiene acceso a los videos del Obispo Barron atra vez de Word on Fire Engage... no se cuanto cueste la membrecia para un individuo, pero hay muchisimos videos disponible en español y muy bien traducidos. WoFDigital.org
This is why we need sound scholarship and interpretation of the Bible - to guide us properly how to live and to protect us from strays. Keep up the good work Bishop Barron.
Amazing message and distinction between love and tolerance. Well done Bishop Barron. Need more leaders like you saying the things you’re saying. Very relevant and powerful.
Love you Bishop Barron, praise God for your knowledge and discernment, may the Holy Spirit continue to enlighten you and give you strength and courage. I could listen to your sermons 24/7 . Thank you ❤
WOW! This is an absolute gem! Well reasoned, articulated, light hatred, civil, and to the point! Everyone can benefit from this refreshing reminder of clear thinking.
His laugh or barely contained laughter seemed forced and fake. I think it detracted from what he had to say. I agree with what he had to say, but if we hope to make a point or educate someone, mocking them is not the best way. We need to convince more than the choir.
It is no surprise that this lady is so against the teachings of Paul the Apostle. If Paul's advice on running churches had been followed, she would not be a bishop.
We really need people like you Bishop Barron especially in this times of false prophets. It's clear to see that some pastor do not really study the gospel to help the people, but in actual fact do it for fame and money, and also misleading the flock of God along the way.
I've been listening Bishop Baron since before becoming bishop. Not as often as would like lately , though. It's been a while since I've seen this video. This was amazing!! I hope all our bishops stand firm and side with Christ!!!
At some point we all must limit our tolerance. Soon no one will think anything is truly wrong if they let their guard down. We have an article on tolerance on our website. The "love and acceptance" motto has gone over the limit in this age and sadly most go along with it.
Thank you Bishop Barron. Your love for our souls who are seeking Jesus' truth appreciates your ability to take the most difficult of messages and read them in light of Scripture, Church teaching, Saints and compare that to modern day culture. I'm sure you do this and recognize how roundly you will be criticzed for your own "intolerance." But please know, you encourage us to know the truth as it is always clear once exposed in the way you communicate. May God continue to bless your work, and may his Grace, Peace, and Joy be with you for all eternity.
Brilliant. This conflation of tolerance with love in the modern world seeks to disarm us. Bishop Barron shines a wonderful light on the issue. Thankyou.
I always tell the social lefties....if you are the arbiter of "tolerance" then you should accept my view, but by your definition of tolerance, I am not obliged to accept YOUR view. That pretty much ends the discussion....
+Basil Damukaitis That's the same thing I think and say! If those who advocate for complete inclusiveness are serious about the philosophy, then they should not proselytize others to believe as they believe. Successful proselytism, where more people adopt a single way of thinking, doesn't create "diversity" of thought, but homogeneity. And homogeneity is the opposite of diversity (checkmate on them!) Love your reply! Keep it up! :)
+Basil Damukaitis Right on. The left professes to be progressive and open, but everywhere they oppress/ridicule any viewpoint not in line with their own--especially a traditional conservative view. We need a balance if the truth be known. There are times to be liberal and times to be conservative...not one or the other...but both, as needed. Father Barron flat out rocks and most couldn't hold their end of an intellectual exchange with him!
I don't mean to be crude, but I was laughing as Father quoted this sermon. What has come to these people who profess to be Christians that they say ridiculous things that are contrary to the faith? John Shelby Spong, another Episcopalian bishop, doesn't even believe in a theistic personal god, that Jesus never rose from the dead, that miracles don't happen, etc. But whenever I bring this up, I'm met with the approach that modern culture has embraced: who are you to say somebody is not a real Christian? CS Lewis did point out that there's a difference between saying somebody doesn't have the right grip on theology and saying somebody doesn't have the spirit of Christ. Those "bishops" may have the right sense of compassion and charity, as Jesus decrees, but we forget how dogmatic Jesus is. Eventually this woman will sit down and watch The Exorcist, and she will stand up and start screaming how the priests are being unkind to little Regan McNeil because they are exorcising her.
It isnt an either / or. Why must you make it so? Jesus was much more compassionate than dogmatic. The Catholic church, sadly, is so dogmatic it is losing attendance in the millions. Why not return to compassion and kindness. JUDGE NOT LESS YOU WILL BE JUDGED... remember that?
I know exactly what you mean. Its the death of meaning. I'm going to become president of my local Vegan society, but still insist on being allowed to eat meat and cheese. After all, who is anybody to say I'm not a vegan? Who is anybody else to judge my vegan credentials? Black is white, up is down and nothing means anything anymore. Welcome to the Postmodern Apocalypse!
I once had a good friend who happened to be a a very good man who was also an ordained Episcopalian minister. When all the nonsense in ECUSA started happening in the 1970's I once, in desperation, asked him, "Does on have to believe ANYTHING these days to be considered a "faithful" Anglican?" He had no answer!
this story is so beyond unbelievable to me. For this reason alone I could never ever be an Episcopalian. If these people discernment is that screwed up that they could sit through a sermon like this they are completely lost. I thought that Charismania was out there and have been attending a Catholic church out of disillusionment with evangelicalism in general. To interpret this story from the book of acts in this way is so over the top that it makes Benny Hinn look like Thomas Aquinas in terms of orthodoxy. This is what you get when you follow Sola Scriptura to its logical conclusion. I am so trying to just find and cling to the hem of his garment out of sheer desperation like trying to find your way through a house of mirrors. The protestant world is so bazar at this point that I wake up every day, say the lords prayer and have mercy on me lord a sinner. That much I am certain is a valid prayer. This lunacy has got to stop. Thank you Father Barron for your clarity in a world of total insanity.
+andrew sapia Benny Hinn once said that there are "nine of them" regarding the Holy Trinity. He is a joke. I'd love to hear a scriptural debate between him and Jefferts-Schori. They are evidence enough that Sola Scriptura doesn't work. Martin Luther is rolling over in his grave.
@@patsmith5611 Martin Luther is in heaven with our LORD and saviour Jesus. I find you interpretation as interesting as the bishops .The problem is that by scripture alone is not being practiced. Were are her peers to call her to repentance? Every member of her church should be up in arms but she is the "Pope" in her church. I once heard a sermon in a Catholic church taught by a Roman Catholic priest that Jesus did not multiply the loaves and fishes but that the boy shared his lunch with Jesus and that act of kindness inspired the 5000 to stop hiding their lunches and share . No person is infallible but the word of God is
this is a very relevant topic for me, I struggle with these topics. Thank you Bishop Barron, would love to hear more about this, but appreciate what I can get.
Bravo, Bishop Barron! Bravo! Your explanation is extraordinary because it is consistent with the EXTRAORDINARY, God himself, who never contradicts Himself. Thank you and God, the very one you have glorified with your coherent explanation, bless you! In the name of Jesus and Mary, PGM
Great video. Thank you again, Bishop Barron for your work. You're like a voice in the wilderness. Again, the culture has very little to recommend it. God bless you.
Father, if I could make a suggestion I would love to see a rant about the dangerous decline of Catholicism in the Netherlands. As an artist, it is really depressing to think that a country once contribute great religious art could loose they're way
Dear Father, I don't think that a rant is necessary, but there are serious lessons to draw from the serious decline in the Netherlands, until not so long ago a great missionary country, now relying on priests from outside the country to serve the dwindling and ageing catholic population. If you every have time ;).
D Lee I haven’t noticed, so I will ask, where did you real Anglicans go? Is there an organization of Anglican parishes in America independent of the national church? I am not asking to be snarky, but seriously. It’s good to know there are Anglicans that have drawn the line.
@@connecticutyankee9706 i dont know but it's hard to imagine they're not still in communion with the anglicans generally just becuase they break from the national anglican church
Don't get me wrong, Bishop, when challenge you. I love you and think you really shine at times, like in this great video. Very edifying. God bless you.
Thank you so much, Bishop Barron, for exposing both relativism, and also outright misrepresentations of Biblical teachings. Your videos always give the truth, along with great compassion. I know that I and thousands of other viewers are grateful for your courage and scholarship! Kathryn, Obl. S.B.
Someone really has to have their patriarchy glasses on 24/7 to have superimposed that on this account in Acts. The girl was being exploited by two men -- hello, hello? And yeah, that's where the limits of my tolerance end, when someone is being used and exploited. The bishop should focus on where that is actually happening in the world today, such as the scourge of human trafficking.
This woman is surely filled with the wrong spirit ? Not the Holy Spirit. It’s embarrassing that she is in this position , and worrying that people listen to her .
@@chrissonofpear1384 It is a ploy by Satan to fuel hatred against women. Look at countries with some of the most etremist religious views, and how the treat women. Then from the other end of the spectrum, we have radical feminism. And while racism is seeded, we are nearly on the verge of a race war that may be the manifestation of world war 3. It is all demonic perversion from the grace and mercy of God.
Lellobeetle May the Lord lead you..I'll be praying for you and your family! You might call the local parish and just drop in to the RCIA program. It has helped many with in discernment, one way or the other.
Tim Spangler Jesus is first last and always! But many of us want a church home. Others of us need it to support us in a difficult walk. As a Catholic, I am a Jesus freak!
"Willing the good of the other (or oneself)," is a good description of divine/true love. What passes as 'love' in much modern discourse is actually feelings of affection and/or worshiping and protecting the pride of the other. Lucifer's fall from grace was his seduction by his own beauty and holiness as God's top angel. It's critical to recognize that Lucifer's sin was that instead of utilizing his holiness to do God's will, he made it into an object of worship, hence the birth of pride as sin. There is no virtue in dwelling on goodness or beauty as a personal attribute. We should be happy for God's gifts and humbly seek to devote them to doing His will. The moment we seek to worship ourselves or others instead of caring about their best interest, we've gone from doing good to worshiping goodness for the sake of pride. Lust and pride are sins that are derived from true/divine love, yet pervert it nonetheless.
He’s so clear and articulate when making his analysis. A very smart man indeed. Would love to see him debate any of these self-absorb atheists that we’re seeing in these “progressive” times. God bless. 🇻🇦🙏
The full story is in Acts 16: Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. 17 This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, “These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.” And this she did for many days.But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And he came out that very hour. 19 But when her masters saw that their hope of profit was gone, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace to the authorities."Actually, when you read this you can see that Paul was actually quite tolerant, (NOT what the bishop was saying about him) putting up with this for many days. Then eventually he did cast out the demon who oppressed this girl.
Is this an accurate rendering please? If so, could someone please explain how the girl's message differed from Paul's. If it didn't, how did Paul know she was possessed by an evil spirit rather than a good one? As quoted, it seems to me that Paul's problem was that she was attracting attention and, (could it be? ), income he wanted for himself. A typically fishy little anecdote.
The girl’s message itself wasn’t the problem. The problem was that the news of salvation is not something to profit off of. It should be freely given. The demon and the slave owners were pretty much using her “prophesying” of this message as marketing for their business.
@@juice2307 Is there something in the story about the girl or her owners selling what she says about Paul? Isn't it the message which is most important? How did Paul know that it wasn't god working through the girl? Don't virtually all churches make money out of pushing what they call salvation? How does what the girl was doing differ materially from what all organised religions do? The girl wasn't offering salvation. She was pointing out Paul and co. as the ones proclaiming the way to it. As I said, very fishy. But a good precedent for xtians who like to shout "Heretic" at their competition. Yes, I am thinking of catholics, in particular.
Can calling her “bishop” be past the limits of tolerance? She is a leader in her congregation and deserves respect as any other but I believe we should not let them undermine the office of genuine bishops of our Lords Church.
I am familiar with that homily given by the head of The Episcopal Church, Bp Jefferts-Schori, over a year ago. She said at the end of her message that we must reinterpret Scripture because if that didn't happen a century and a half ago, slavery would still exist today. Apparently, St. Paul the Apostle endorsed the practice. Upon further reflection, however, slavery died out in the West as Christianity overtook what was left of the Roman Empire, but that wasn't caused by the Church reinterpreting the Bible. Instead, the Church held on to Tradition -- reading Scripture through the eyes of how we always seen it and slavery disappeared. After roughly a millennium without it, the practice returned in the West right around the time the Protestant Reformation decided to reinterpret the Bible (outside Tradition). Coincidence?
fantastic point. Paul also never says slavery is good. It was just a fact of life back then. He specifically says that to God there is no slave or free.
***** this is actually just plain wrong, Europe was specifically the first place to outlaw slavery on earth basically. against other Christians yes but Christians also weren't allowed to have slaves there were essentially no slaves in Europe during the middle ages after it was abolished by the church, serfs yes but it is different. Also, when the Portuguese started slavery and until it was outlawed again in Europe again led by mostly Christian movements, the Pope condemned the slave trade the whole way through, European governments just ignored him. I've heard secular historians say that slavery from roman times ended specifically because of Christianity, even if it resurfaced later
*****, are you saying Feudalism and serfdom is the same thing as slavery? Granted, I'm not recommending we go back to that practice, but your statement struck me as rather odd... If you do see these two (serfdom and slavery) as the same thing, then would you suggest that the capitalistic society in America is also the same as slavery? Some have thought so, because people are progressively forced to work longer hours for less money. *If you do not see these as the same --Capitalism and Slavery*, *then why not*? If you do see these as the same, then I understand where you are coming from but it would be impossible for me to have an answer to your point, but not for the reason that many would think... I am trying to assess your definition of slavery and go from there...
*****, oh -- I got what you are saying now. It isn't the idea that Catholics did away with slavery that bothers you -- you are upset because I *linked* the Reformation to its re-institution. You were under the impression that the Protestant Reformation led to a great awakening in morality so you have to deflect from my little *coincidence*. I see now, though we may want to work on this thing called denial. America was started as a Capitalistic Protestant nation, but until 1865, *slavery* was sanctioned here. Just saying....
*****, first, I was being *ridiculous* for suggesting that capitalism and slavery were somehow connected. Then you say slave trading is fueled by *money* and the *market*. Now you are saying that it never ended. Can you *please* take some time and make up your mind -- All this flip-flopping is confusing and making me dizzy...
She didn't make herself a bishop. She was elected and consecrated as one. When Henry VIII split churches most of the English Roman Catholic bishops went along with him since they didn't want to lose their heads. So they retained apostolic succession even though Leo XIII didn't think it continued due to a defective formula. Also, the polish pope didn't think women could be priests but he couldn't come up with a logical or theological reason why other than Catholics never had them before. So Anglicans and Episcopalians probably do have valid ordinations especially since they have the cooperation of Old Catholic bishops in their bishops' consecrations. Over time Catholics will have to realize like they did with keeping slaves that women have to be treated equally as human beings and not as second class as they have been for since time immemorial.
john riordan dude ones the catholic bishops broke away from the bishop of Rome apostolic succession ceased. And the biggest reason for not allowing woman priest is because Jesus chose 12 male priest aka the apostle. Do you think this woman "bishop" has apostolic succession ? 😂 you are delusional. They broke away and started here own church. Orthodox on the other hand still contains apostolic succession because their church was started by one of the apostle. This woman is no bishop of Jesus had a grave he would be rolling in it.
drooleybob No, not really. It went off the rails beginning in our modern era beginning in 1929. Feminism was just one of the many social ills they embraced.
+Bette F ...I'd say that her sermon on Paul and this "admittedly demonically possessed woman" sums up the theology/heresy abundantly spewing from this "bishop"!
G.K. Chesterton said, "Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions"
I am stealing that
You are in a very real sense right! If all ideas have equal merit, then
inevitably no ideas at all would have any merit, because the concept
of truth versus falsehood (which even our very lives depend on) would
have no meaning!
so.. God was born in a high palace which sounded "convert o miserable humans" 10 times every `7 minutes and 25 seconds and he was so totally intolerant to the scum, there wasn't one Christian around him at his time, so he gave everyone till the end of time to convert at least 1 billiion times... thank God God has never been tolerant! Oh... God killed every living sole (fish) to revenge himself of the death of his Son
@Booth what's weird about that? It's straight forward, easy!
@Booth where are you getting all of that? Mysterious! God isn't born He Is. Ipse esse substantie.. Aquinas -> God Is the Is-ness!
When I heard that, um, ''sermon'', my jaw literally dropped. It was as if someone really, REALLY tried to completely invert the intent of the story.
Helllllooooooooooo
Bible Illustrated you should illustrate what this crazy lady said.
Wow! Literally dropped!? Did you pick it up? It could pose a danger to the elderly who are prone to tripping over anything, especially dropped jaws!!
That's the devils MO, invert everything. The world we live in proves it.
I’m currently in the process of becoming a Catholic, after spending my first 30-odd years of life in the Anglican Church I was brought up in.
It’s an amazing journey into the heart of Christianity.
Welcome Home! May God guide you through the right paths!
@Thomassav7 I am not catholic, and I am disgusted by your attitude.
Really. Pedophiles become priests because they could access children without suspicion. A real priest is not a pedophile. My brother was in a boarding school and was accosted by a teacher. So Teachers are organized pedophiles!.
Pedophiles choose professions that are suitable to them. Scout leaders, youth leaders, ( I met a guy who was 'pedophiled' by the youthleader of a gun club), teachers, and yes, priests also.
Awesome
The true heart of Christianity is the Orthodox Church.
@JOHN RHEINHEIMER - STUDENT Nonesense. The bishop of Rome made himself the so called vicor of Christ and later on caused the split aftet which the papist church became the most corrupt and murderous organization on Earth.
I love Catholicism's capacity to choose right from wrong. Thank you Bishop Barron for standing up for what is right.
@@davelong9055 ""he Nazi Party was staffed with Jesuits and high ranking Catholics."
Yes that is why Hitler & Co expressed deep loathing for the Catholic church and Catholics.
Most of those "high ranking Catholics" were Catholics in name alone, if at all (as many of them rejected Catholicism openly, like Hitler), as the Catholic faith, and Christianity in general, held ideas diametrically opposed to the ideals of national socialism.
Many Catholics were also in the resistance, like the Weisse Rose. In fact most clandestine anti-nazi organizations were mainly composed by Catholics or had Catholicism at its root.
The Catholic church itself, like many others, suffered persecution under nazism. In fact about 1/3 of German Catholic priests were sent to concentration camps
@@Entropy3ko how did the other 2/3rds escape punishment...hmmmmm
@@rburns8581 yes, have you? if you read the bible you can only be catholic
@@intelanalyst78 because they did not openly oppose the regime but this does not make them collaborators or supporters. Unless you want to claim all Germans during that time are guilty as well hmmmmmmmmm
@@Entropy3ko Hmm...How about:..."If you read the Bible you can only be Christian"?(Or Jewish? )----I hate to burst your comfy little bubble, but contrary to Roman Catholic belief, Roman Catholicism is NOT the be-all and end-all of the Christian Faith, and you're not in charge of God, so get over yourselves...PEACE!! 😎😎😎
what is the big difference between Love & Tolerance:
here are some points to ponder: Tolerance says, "You must allow me to have my way." Love responds, "I must do something harder: I will plead with you to follow the right way, because I believe you are worth the risk.
Beautifully said.
Amen
Well said :)
Beautiful ~
I was an Episcopalian for many years - born and raised. But, it was the almost Unitarian shift of the Episcopal Church that drove me to the Catholic faith. Brilliant analysis by the Bishop!
Welcome Home Brother.
Yahul Wagoni I have said that before in relation to the ACNA.
Hello Bill, I left the Catholic church and belong to a Reformed Episcopal church that does not allow women clergy. Not all Episcopal churches have gone Unitarian.
Welcome home Bill
Dumb move
“Love is to will the good of the other. Real love means you’re not going to tolerate lots of things. Real love means you have to exclude certain things.”
Thank you for that discernment.
Correct... if you really love the child. You will not allow them to eat cake for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Just because they "Say".... it's what, they WANT.
As a Protestant, I greatly appreciate Bishop Barron and the wisdom he brings to bear on this and many other issues. As liberal lies and progressive poison have spread throughout our nation and culture, the church should stand firm against all compromise with evil. Unfortunately, far too many churches have done so. The voices that stand firm in the faith will always have my support.
Glad you are here. Come join us in the one church founded by Christ!
I 1000% agree, the church must be the rock and not conform to the masses. That will be the death of the church if it does.
sounds like you should find yourself a nice somewhat traditional catholic church. i recomend a byzantine or maronite church, but if you can find a dioscese with a bishop like Bishop Barron you'll do fine.
I was confirmed a catholic yesterday. I was a cradle Anglo-Catholic and am now in full communion with the seat of Saint Peter. I credit this video as one of the strongest arguments for why I should convert. Thank you Word on Fire!
Well, God bless you!
I am so glad you are a Bishop now! we need more Bishops and priest like Bishop Barron!
Amen. Barron for Pope.
He's not Catholic...
lmao barf
Would bishop Baron speak about pc Francis changing the words of the Lord's prayer in St Matthews and Luke's Gospels
Mic Drop. Great video. This whole series is top notch, and it's nice to see a scholar who also can articulately speak on popular culture.
Thank you for this comment.
Hmm... I find this an odd critique from a Catholic in the USA where Catholicism is still in the minority. _Faith of Our Fathers_ , anyone?
Wow. I was unaware that Fr. Barron could use the phrase, " the liberal thought police."
Kudos to him.
Glenn Wilson kind of ironic when he serves an institution that has made a living off of thought crimes.
Tim Kiseljak contradictions are worse. Then again you would be used to it being a bible believer
Tim Kiseljak so complex no one has the same interpretation... there’s contradictions, hoards of immorality, no one knows who wrote it, it has been mistranslated.. half the people that believe it have never even read it. Are you one of those people that bc it doesn’t make sense believes there’s some
hidden deeper means you can’t explain 😂
Tim Kiseljak well first off you are very wrong about it being ok for others to interpret it and think differently. The church prosecuted those who thought differently... today they don’t prosecute anyone bc they lack power.. if I interpret the Bible in a way that brings me to believe divorce is ok, the church says I need to repent, if to me masturbation is not immoral, the church says I will burn for eternity if I don’t confess. If you disagree on any mortal sin, the church says your soul is doomed, so you are not free to interpret it differently, it is interpreted for you and you must abide by their way otherwise you will be ostracized or even excommunicated. Almost none of the Bible is philosophical. I’ve read it, which is one of the reasons why I’m no longer a believer at all.
Tim Kiseljak I think to tell people they are going to hell for offenses that offend no one (except God in their eyes) is extreme. I don’t doubt you doubt that I’ve read the Bible, if I did, you still doubt I read it with sincerity or with serious thought.. it’s hard to comprehend that someone can properly interpret the Bible and still find it ridiculous, this is a kind of mental barrier that remains in believers, they want to believe rational people will always be convinced the Bible speaks truth, bc this reassures their judgement and sanity, let me tell you, you are wrong. I was a Catholic for 25 years.. I know the patterns of thought that cross through your mind, I’m not saying I can read yours, but I understand you. If I point out absurdity in the Bible you will run to the New Testament, when I point the absurdity there, you will say you interpret it differently or that it is mysterious. We will disagree on much until we debate the basics of biblical credibility and the existence of God.
As an Anglican priest, I am ashamed that my church is in communion with people like Jefferts Schori. What she says is ultimately blasphemy, confusing the work of God for the work of the devil (as Jesus says of the scribes who had said he had cast out devils by Beelzebub).
+Joshua Penduck Come home.
Yes Joshua , come home
Well, you can thank your King for that one.
Sts. Brendan, Bede, Alban, Augustine, Ita, Dymphna, Edwin, Edmund, Wilfrid, Columba, Oswin, Aelred, Dunstan, Hilda, Chad, and all the rest of our noble fathers -- were Catholic. St. Augustine's letters to Pope Gregory establishes this and if not, then The Synod of Whitby 664 hammers it home. I had to do so many gymnastics as an Anglican priest to keep up the historical facade of legitimate apostolic authority.
I'm afraid the War of Roses established Liberalism within the foundations of England qua its status as a Liberal Nation State. The Lay Investiture Controversy was "resolved" by the creation of modern England, France, Spain, etc. with the formation of this new form of political structure. This solution says Civil Authority first, Ecclesial Second. I'm afraid The Enlightenment was thus doomed to win over England, and this sort of silliness within Anglicanism was in its very core like a seed waiting to bloom. Whatever The State says, is what the Anglican Church of that specific State, must ultimately bend the knee too. You see the silly gymnastics The Queen must go throw over this marriage fiasco. Why can't she say, "To be a good sister, is to be a good queen, is to be a good Christian?" This is why England, like the U.S., is doomed, it is ultimately a State-run church, whether physically or spiritually, or both. No matter of conversation about "agreement" or saying who is "heretical" and who is not can come out of agreements -- one needs Authority, not democracy.
The solution to all this ethical debacle is simple:
Ecclesial First.
Civil Second.
I used to be an Episcopal priest. It's time to give it up, come home Joshua. I'm much happier, and you can be too, "for my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
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From across the Atlantic,
Gregory
Joshua...I will pray daily that you are in the end, received into the arms of the ancient and true Faith. Come home, dear brother in Christ. Thomas More, pray for him!
The Episcopal Bishop's interpretation is absolutely horrifying. This is perhaps one of the reasons so many Episcopalians are converting to Catholicism.
+Bobbie Barajas Those Episcopalians aren't converting to Catholicism. They're branching out within the Anglican communion and leading a more orthodox fellowship called the Anglican Church of North America.
Solo Scriptura meets Feminista lunatic. The left will inhabit ever empty space.
Jim Foley A permanent change _is_ coming.
Bobbie Barajas I was baptized episcopal, my dad's faith, raised going to pentecostal and evangelical churches with my born again mother, and converted to catholicism in high school. my mom is Irish and was raised catholic but left the church in her early 20s. now I'm 29 and just go to a non denominational church.
Sola scriptura is not a liberal mindset. If anything, sola scriptura especially in the U.S. is often seen as conservative and fundamentalist
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness..." (Isa. 5:20)
man in the wilderness, sounds like you are talking about president trump...it's exactly what he does
midge battelle "ORANGE DRUMPF BADS! BAD MAN DRUMPF" *slurp* *slobber*
Amen
@@midgebattelle9084 and all his supporters as well!
@@midgebattelle9084 May God continue to bless Donald Trump & may God let the evil one drag his servant the abortionist, credibly accused of sexual assault, Joe Biden to the bowels of Hell, if he does not repent.
In French, a brothel was called "une maison de tolérance" - a house of tolerance !!
I could watch and listen to your videos all day, I think I have watched them all ! I returned to my Catholic faith about 6 years ago after venturing out and studying many other religions, faiths etc, but coming back to the Catholic church has been the most beautiful of homecomings and i really have to say that your books and videos have really been instrumental in this journey home. We need more hugely intelligent personalities like yourself which would hopefully bring back the masses into the churches again., as it has done for me. More More More please and congratulations 'Bishop Barron' ! God bless.
+Rolf Lorenz I have a similar faith journey and I am happy to know that others have also found their way home, after diverse explorations. It just makes the experience of being Christian in the Catholic tradition that much richer and rewarding! "Sometimes you need to lose yourself to find yourself" the saying goes and I tend to agree with that. I too have become a fan of Fr Barron and I hope that his ministry continues to inspire others in the way they have inspired us! :)
Same. When people leave the Church, it's because they understand their faith and were in the faith. That is what happened to me. But last year, I did begin to slowly come back, and from October and on, after I attended this wonderful Catholic youth event (for teens and up), and thanks to God, and for my mother for buying tickets & coming with, I really have notice a change. It's made me want to learn & protect my faith even more. I see how true & right Catholicism is. Bishop Barron is a gift from God, and may God give us more brilliant minds like these.
When the 20 year old behind me at work said her biggest pet peeve was shaming of any kind, which reflects the growing opinion of many of the youth I knew there was problem.
Wow. Just wow. His laughing is so genuine and appropriate.
Those who extoll the virtues of tolerance are rarely tolerant, in fact they just create more boxed thought and behaviour. Bishop Barron (as always) gives us wise food for thought. Thanks for sharing.
I think on hearing her interpretation of that story.... there is two women needing an exorcism
You can tell that when Bishop Barron read the transcript of her sermon, he was rolling on the floor laughing.
PossiblyMaybeNope that's very christian of him
@@cartmann227 Oh no! He is so evil!
I'm a recent convert, and this video makes me absolutely LOVE my decision. The Catholic Church isn't afraid to put its foot down on this new-age societal bullcrap. What this Episcopalian bishop is preaching about is exactly why I decided to become Christian. SIN is the cause of all evil in the world. Not some cis-hetero-patriarchy bogeyman. Thank you so much for this video Bishop Barron!
Too bad it's afraid to put it's foot down when it comes to child molestation. Shame it wasn't "new age". Maybe then they'd actually do something about it.
5:50 "Love is to will the good of the other!" Well put! Its that type of teaching of the Episcopalian Bishop why many are lead astray even some of my relatives.
No doubt. The episcopal church condones, promotes, and celebrates homosexuality and makes NO attempt to help those poor souls. Which is why we left that church and came home to Rome.
Thank you Fr. Barron for creating this channel. It is a great resource for Catholics everywhere. Keep up the great work.
and for non-Catholics
All things pass away
God never changes.
“O lord open my eyes that I may see”
O Lord strengthen me that I may continue to follow and do Your Will
🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾
I'm currently a practicing Episcopalian, but it is Catholic men like Bishop Barron here that have convinced me to one day convert to Catholicism, as I intend to do at some point. The far left teachings of the Episcopal church have left me with little comfort among those who claim to follow scripture and church tradition, yet actively oppose it. Myself and many other Episcopalians have plan to migrate to the Catholic Church for these very reasons.
Do the jump before it's too late. In prayers.
The Catholic Church will always be your home, brother.
Fr. Robert Barron
Hello Father Barron,
I would love to correct you on something. We are Curaçao and not Curaçao, Venezuela. Curaçao is an autonomous country, and caribbean island within the Dutch kingdom. I'm proud to say that we are very christian nation, with a rich catholic tradition. And as a catholic christian born and raised on this beautiful island, I would like to thank you for your work. You have made a fan here on the island. May God keep blessing you.
And one last thing the "ç" is read as an "s". So you write Curaçao, but you say Curasao :D
Greetings from Curaçao!!
+Czychori Urselita Thank you.
Excellent video as always Father Barron. Thank you and God bless you in your ministry!
I am so glad I left the Episcopal Church. I moved on to the ACNA and feel quite at home. While I don't think I will move to Roman Catholicism, I am grateful to have found your videos Bishop!
Check back with us 😇
As an atheist, I am completely on Bishop Barron's side here. Another word of wisdom from one of the great spiritual leaders of our age.
Still an atheist?
@@bradleyhardingham6747 I fear so because I have to be honest. However I am very interested in the religious traditions, at the moment I am reading about Welsh druidism and I just ordered a couple of books about zoroastrianism. There are lots of wise thoughts in the religious traditions and even if you're not a believer, there are lots of things to learn from them.
"Toleration" and "inclusiveness" aren't listed among Christian virtues. Sadly, there are many misguided CATHOLICS today who will argue for silence in the face of (if not outright acceptance of) all manner of abominations - in the name of these double edged values. The path to heaven is a narrow one, requiring us to resist evil and embrace purity and holiness. Love the sinner, certainly - but reject sin, and urge the world away from it. That's our mandate, not slothful acquiescence to all things.
francisxcc can you be Pope please?
I hate when they yell "do not judge". It's twisting tolerance. We can't judge the state of someone's soul..like saying 'this Episcopalian bishop is definitely possessed' lol...But we can say that she is wrong in her interpretation and correct her and most importantly pray for her.
Can we say "Wolves in sheep's clothing."
Why is he laughing about something so spiritually serious. There no LAUGHTER in what the devil does! Stop laughing, it creeping me out.
What do we do if judging a first offence by one law? like stoning a man gathering sticks...
Padre Robert, soy peruano y lo conocí a través de la serie Catolicismo por EWTN, me agradan mucho sus videos y aprender de ellos, aunque me cueste entenderlos porque el traductor traduce desde los subtítulos del inglés y a veces no tienen mucha coherencia gramatical. Rezaré por usted y por su apostolado, ya que me ha ayudado mucho - e imagino que no solo a mí, sino a muchos más - a entender nuestra fe católica. Gracias!
@Francisco nuestra parroquia tiene acceso a los videos del Obispo Barron atra vez de Word on Fire Engage... no se cuanto cueste la membrecia para un individuo, pero hay muchisimos videos disponible en español y muy bien traducidos. WoFDigital.org
This is why we need sound scholarship and interpretation of the Bible - to guide us properly how to live and to protect us from strays. Keep up the good work Bishop Barron.
Amazing message and distinction between love and tolerance. Well done Bishop Barron. Need more leaders like you saying the things you’re saying. Very relevant and powerful.
That woman's sermon was about as heretical as one can get.
@John Samuels *you're
@John Samuels A lie is something that was a known, provable falsehood that was uttered knowing it was false.
Now, prove that it is a lie.
Correction you are wrong. You are the problem for being obstinate and picking evil. Your sin is the problem.
@John Samuels keep barking stupid un-enlightened man
She's actively promoting the devil like wtf
Glad that this gem of a video from Bishop Barron is still reaching more people
Thank you @Bishop Barron for guiding us and keeping us in the Light! 😍🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️
Dear Bishop Barron,
it feels so good to hear the truth! Thank you for your videos.
Heresy, not even once.
Thank you for the chuckle.
Człowiek Wiking On a scale of one to heresy... HERESY! *BLAM*
Heretical church!
Brilliant! This one definitely belongs to a top-20 list of your videos.
Bishop Robert Barron, God bless you always. Always bring me light and hope. Praise be the Lord. Amen.
Love you Bishop Barron, praise God for your knowledge and discernment, may the Holy Spirit continue to enlighten you and give you strength and courage. I could listen to your sermons 24/7 . Thank you ❤
WOW!
This is an absolute gem!
Well reasoned, articulated, light hatred, civil, and to the point! Everyone can benefit from this refreshing reminder of clear thinking.
tom mix lk
lol i love how the good Fr. Barron could hardly keep a strait face for this one ;P
His laugh or barely contained laughter seemed forced and fake. I think it detracted from what he had to say. I agree with what he had to say, but if we hope to make a point or educate someone, mocking them is not the best way. We need to convince more than the choir.
Thank you Bishop Barron for enlightening us with the truth. May God bless you and keep you safe in these turbulent times. 🙏
Not a Catholic, but really like this channel. Even my vocabulary benefits. Thx OP
So this was uploaded 7 years ago and how much more does the world look like that of the "Episcopal Bishop"? It's frightening.
It is no surprise that this lady is so against the teachings of Paul the Apostle. If Paul's advice on running churches had been followed, she would not be a bishop.
Agree
Beautiful explanation! 👏🏼🙏🏻
We really need people like you Bishop Barron especially in this times of false prophets. It's clear to see that some pastor do not really study the gospel to help the people, but in actual fact do it for fame and money, and also misleading the flock of God along the way.
I've been listening Bishop Baron since before becoming bishop. Not as often as would like lately , though. It's been a while since I've seen this video. This was amazing!! I hope all our bishops stand firm and side with Christ!!!
I had a good laugh out of this one. I'm so glad I belong to the Catholic Church!
At some point we all must limit our tolerance. Soon no one will think anything is truly wrong if they let their guard down. We have an article on tolerance on our website. The "love and acceptance" motto has gone over the limit in this age and sadly most go along with it.
Thank you Bishop Barron. Your love for our souls who are seeking Jesus' truth appreciates your ability to take the most difficult of messages and read them in light of Scripture, Church teaching, Saints and compare that to modern day culture. I'm sure you do this and recognize how roundly you will be criticzed for your own "intolerance." But please know, you encourage us to know the truth as it is always clear once exposed in the way you communicate. May God continue to bless your work, and may his Grace, Peace, and Joy be with you for all eternity.
Brilliant. This conflation of tolerance with love in the modern world seeks to disarm us. Bishop Barron shines a wonderful light on the issue. Thankyou.
I always tell the social lefties....if you are the arbiter of "tolerance" then you should accept my view, but by your definition of tolerance, I am not obliged to accept YOUR view. That pretty much ends the discussion....
Basil Damukaitis Excellent. they are tolerant...untill you disagree with them of course.
+Basil Damukaitis That's the same thing I think and say! If those who advocate for complete inclusiveness are serious about the philosophy, then they should not proselytize others to believe as they believe. Successful proselytism, where more people adopt a single way of thinking, doesn't create "diversity" of thought, but homogeneity. And homogeneity is the opposite of diversity (checkmate on them!) Love your reply! Keep it up! :)
+Basil Damukaitis Right on. The left professes to be progressive and open, but everywhere they oppress/ridicule any viewpoint not in line with their own--especially a traditional conservative view. We need a balance if the truth be known. There are times to be liberal and times to be conservative...not one or the other...but both, as needed. Father Barron flat out rocks and most couldn't hold their end of an intellectual exchange with him!
Amen
I am on the left and continually make that point to people on my side
I grew up Episcopalian and boy have things changed
You've got that right for sure.
Whoa...really great video and fantastic ending! Thank you so much, Bishop Barron.
Astounding. Thank you Bishop Barron
I don't mean to be crude, but I was laughing as Father quoted this sermon. What has come to these people who profess to be Christians that they say ridiculous things that are contrary to the faith? John Shelby Spong, another Episcopalian bishop, doesn't even believe in a theistic personal god, that Jesus never rose from the dead, that miracles don't happen, etc. But whenever I bring this up, I'm met with the approach that modern culture has embraced: who are you to say somebody is not a real Christian? CS Lewis did point out that there's a difference between saying somebody doesn't have the right grip on theology and saying somebody doesn't have the spirit of Christ. Those "bishops" may have the right sense of compassion and charity, as Jesus decrees, but we forget how dogmatic Jesus is.
Eventually this woman will sit down and watch The Exorcist, and she will stand up and start screaming how the priests are being unkind to little Regan McNeil because they are exorcising her.
Seamus Kennefick Interesting post, with some good perspective...especially regarding people like Spong.
It isnt an either / or. Why must you make it so? Jesus was much more compassionate than dogmatic. The Catholic church, sadly, is so dogmatic it is losing attendance in the millions. Why not return to compassion and kindness. JUDGE NOT LESS YOU WILL BE JUDGED... remember that?
I know exactly what you mean. Its the death of meaning. I'm going to become president of my local Vegan society, but still insist on being allowed to eat meat and cheese. After all, who is anybody to say I'm not a vegan? Who is anybody else to judge my vegan credentials?
Black is white, up is down and nothing means anything anymore. Welcome to the Postmodern Apocalypse!
Seamus Kennefick
I once had a good friend who happened to be a a very good man who was also an ordained Episcopalian minister. When all the nonsense in ECUSA started happening in the 1970's I once, in desperation, asked him, "Does on have to believe ANYTHING these days to be considered a "faithful" Anglican?" He had no answer!
this story is so beyond unbelievable to me. For this reason alone I could never ever be an Episcopalian. If these people discernment is that screwed up that they could sit through a sermon like this they are completely lost. I thought that Charismania was out there and have been attending a Catholic church out of disillusionment with evangelicalism in general. To interpret this story from the book of acts in this way is so over the top that it makes Benny Hinn look like Thomas Aquinas in terms of orthodoxy. This is what you get when you follow Sola Scriptura to its logical conclusion. I am so trying to just find and cling to the hem of his garment out of sheer desperation like trying to find your way through a house of mirrors. The protestant world is so bazar at this point that I wake up every day, say the lords prayer and have mercy on me lord a sinner. That much I am certain is a valid prayer. This lunacy has got to stop.
Thank you Father Barron for your clarity in a world of total insanity.
+andrew sapia Benny Hinn once said that there are "nine of them" regarding the Holy Trinity. He is a joke. I'd love to hear a scriptural debate between him and Jefferts-Schori. They are evidence enough that Sola Scriptura doesn't work. Martin Luther is rolling over in his grave.
andrew sapia "... makes Benny Hinn look like Thomas Aquinas..". You made me laugh. I needed it. Thanks.
It even makes Benny Hill look like Aquinas.
@@patsmith5611 Martin Luther is in heaven with our LORD and saviour Jesus. I find you interpretation as interesting as the bishops .The problem is that by scripture alone is not being practiced. Were are her peers to call her to repentance? Every member of her church should be up in arms but she is the "Pope" in her church.
I once heard a sermon in a Catholic church taught by a Roman Catholic priest that Jesus did not multiply the loaves and fishes but that the boy shared his lunch with Jesus and that act of kindness inspired the 5000 to stop hiding their lunches and share .
No person is infallible but the word of God is
@@wms72 Read the Holy Scriptures for the doctrinal purity of Jesus' true teachings. There; fixed that for ya...🤨
This is great, Bishop! Love lots from the 🇵🇭
this is a very relevant topic for me, I struggle with these topics. Thank you Bishop Barron, would love to hear more about this, but appreciate what I can get.
She is one of the reasons I left the Episcopal Church.
I don't go to Church to hear about Diversity. :-( I go to Church to hear about God.
Bravo, Bishop Barron! Bravo! Your explanation is extraordinary because it is consistent with the EXTRAORDINARY, God himself, who never contradicts Himself. Thank you and God, the very one you have glorified with your coherent explanation, bless you! In the name of Jesus and Mary, PGM
Great video. Thank you again, Bishop Barron for your work. You're like a voice in the wilderness. Again, the culture has very little to recommend it.
God bless you.
Father, if I could make a suggestion I would love to see a rant about the dangerous decline of Catholicism in the Netherlands. As an artist, it is really depressing to think that a country once contribute great religious art could loose they're way
Dear Father, I don't think that a rant is necessary, but there are serious lessons to draw from the serious decline in the Netherlands, until not so long ago a great missionary country, now relying on priests from outside the country to serve the dwindling and ageing catholic population. If you every have time ;).
Count on my prayers for the Netherlands, my girlfriend's prayers too.
so you don't call your father father and your grandfather grandfather?
don't worry sinners, you can enjoy heaven on your own. me and my netherland homeboys are gonna enjoy the hot party in hell.
if you haven't noticed most of us "real" anglicans gave up on the national church when bishop Cathey started suing churches she didn't like.
D Lee I haven’t noticed, so I will ask, where did you real Anglicans go? Is there an organization of Anglican parishes in America independent of the national church? I am not asking to be snarky, but seriously. It’s good to know there are Anglicans that have drawn the line.
@@connecticutyankee9706 i dont know but it's hard to imagine they're not still in communion with the anglicans generally just becuase they break from the national anglican church
Don't get me wrong, Bishop, when challenge you. I love you and think you really shine at times, like in this great video. Very edifying. God bless you.
Thank you so much, Bishop Barron, for exposing both relativism, and also outright misrepresentations of Biblical teachings. Your videos always give the truth, along with great compassion. I know that I and thousands of other viewers are grateful for your courage and scholarship! Kathryn, Obl. S.B.
Someone really has to have their patriarchy glasses on 24/7 to have superimposed that on this account in Acts. The girl was being exploited by two men -- hello, hello?
And yeah, that's where the limits of my tolerance end, when someone is being used and exploited. The bishop should focus on where that is actually happening in the world today, such as the scourge of human trafficking.
This woman is surely filled with the wrong spirit ? Not the Holy Spirit.
It’s embarrassing that she is in this position , and worrying that people listen to her .
The devil loves to hide in religions and what a perfect place it is to lead people astray
And people wonder why it's a bad idea to have women priests. This is what you get.
Prophetess Deborah who served as a Judge in Israel is also a huge embarrassment as well.
@@chrissonofpear1384 It doesn't. Both are equally tainted by the disobedience.
@@chrissonofpear1384 It is a ploy by Satan to fuel hatred against women. Look at countries with some of the most etremist religious views, and how the treat women. Then from the other end of the spectrum, we have radical feminism. And while racism is seeded, we are nearly on the verge of a race war that may be the manifestation of world war 3. It is all demonic perversion from the grace and mercy of God.
Thank you for this video and analysis. Many loves from a Baptist! 👍
Thank you posting this insightful review. I loved it.
My Episcopal home has rotted from the inside. We just go from low to low.
+Lellobeetle Come on over to the Catholics. We're welcoming loads of Anglicans and Episcopalians :D
Kitty Watson I've been heavily considering it my friend.
Lellobeetle May the Lord lead you..I'll be praying for you and your family!
You might call the local parish and just drop in to the RCIA program. It has helped many with in discernment, one way or the other.
+Lellobeetle Have you considered Jesus instead?
Tim Spangler Jesus is first last and always! But many of us want a church home. Others of us need it to support us in a difficult walk. As a Catholic, I am a Jesus freak!
"You might begin to see the Devil himself as something beautiful and holy." Refer to the popular interpretation of Milton's Paradise Lost.
Wow! This is very enlightening, well done sir!
Though I am an unbeliever, I admire Robert Barron for his wisdom, intelligence and ability to communicate profound matters. Thanks very much.
I think this is an example of the many dangers of interpreting the bible with "our own interpretation." We have a Pope and the Catholic church.
Who is "we"
Beware of the Catholic pc Pope who changes the words of the Lord's prayer in st Matthew's gospel
And they were right and Galileo was wrong.
I’m not Catholic but I agree with this guy.
Great vid and strong teaching. From 6:00 until the end id a great word. Amen.
God bless you and your keen mind! May the Holy Spirit continue holy works through you!
"Willing the good of the other (or oneself)," is a good description of divine/true love. What passes as 'love' in much modern discourse is actually feelings of affection and/or worshiping and protecting the pride of the other. Lucifer's fall from grace was his seduction by his own beauty and holiness as God's top angel. It's critical to recognize that Lucifer's sin was that instead of utilizing his holiness to do God's will, he made it into an object of worship, hence the birth of pride as sin. There is no virtue in dwelling on goodness or beauty as a personal attribute. We should be happy for God's gifts and humbly seek to devote them to doing His will. The moment we seek to worship ourselves or others instead of caring about their best interest, we've gone from doing good to worshiping goodness for the sake of pride. Lust and pride are sins that are derived from true/divine love, yet pervert it nonetheless.
He’s so clear and articulate when making his analysis. A very smart man indeed. Would love to see him debate any of these self-absorb atheists that we’re seeing in these “progressive” times.
God bless. 🇻🇦🙏
This episcopal bishop illustrates why I left that church 4 years ago and am on my path to conversion!
I hope your home by now, Elizabeth!
Thank you, Bishop Barron! Truth!
The full story is in Acts 16: Now it
happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with
a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by
fortune-telling. 17 This
girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, “These men are the
servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.” And this she did for many days.But
Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in
the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And he came out that very
hour. 19 But when her masters saw that their hope of profit was gone, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace to the authorities."Actually, when you read this you can see that Paul was actually quite tolerant, (NOT what the bishop was saying about him) putting up with this for many days. Then eventually he did cast out the demon who oppressed this girl.
Is this an accurate rendering please? If so, could someone please explain how the girl's message differed from Paul's. If it didn't, how did Paul know she was possessed by an evil spirit rather than a good one? As quoted, it seems to me that Paul's problem was that she was attracting attention and, (could it be? ), income he wanted for himself. A typically fishy little anecdote.
The girl’s message itself wasn’t the problem. The problem was that the news of salvation is not something to profit off of. It should be freely given.
The demon and the slave owners were pretty much using her “prophesying” of this message as marketing for their business.
@@juice2307 Is there something in the story about the girl or her owners selling what she says about Paul? Isn't it the message which is most important? How did Paul know that it wasn't god working through the girl? Don't virtually all churches make money out of pushing what they call salvation? How does what the girl was doing differ materially from what all organised religions do?
The girl wasn't offering salvation. She was pointing out Paul and co. as the ones proclaiming the way to it. As I said, very fishy. But a good precedent for xtians who like to shout "Heretic" at their competition. Yes, I am thinking of catholics, in particular.
@@ronhirsch1944 Spirits of divination aren't from God.
@@internetenjoyer1044 Can you please answer the questions I asked in my first post? Mere unsupported assertions like yours are utterly pointless.
She's preaching revolution.
great video, thank you Bishop!
Thank you for this. Yes! Truth!
Can calling her “bishop” be past the limits of tolerance? She is a leader in her congregation and deserves respect as any other but I believe we should not let them undermine the office of genuine bishops of our Lords Church.
I am familiar with that homily given by the head of The Episcopal Church, Bp Jefferts-Schori, over a year ago. She said at the end of her message that we must reinterpret Scripture because if that didn't happen a century and a half ago, slavery would still exist today. Apparently, St. Paul the Apostle endorsed the practice. Upon further reflection, however, slavery died out in the West as Christianity overtook what was left of the Roman Empire, but that wasn't caused by the Church reinterpreting the Bible. Instead, the Church held on to Tradition -- reading Scripture through the eyes of how we always seen it and slavery disappeared. After roughly a millennium without it, the practice returned in the West right around the time the Protestant Reformation decided to reinterpret the Bible (outside Tradition). Coincidence?
fantastic point. Paul also never says slavery is good. It was just a fact of life back then. He specifically says that to God there is no slave or free.
***** this is actually just plain wrong, Europe was specifically the first place to outlaw slavery on earth basically. against other Christians yes but Christians also weren't allowed to have slaves there were essentially no slaves in Europe during the middle ages after it was abolished by the church, serfs yes but it is different. Also, when the Portuguese started slavery and until it was outlawed again in Europe again led by mostly Christian movements, the Pope condemned the slave trade the whole way through, European governments just ignored him. I've heard secular historians say that slavery from roman times ended specifically because of Christianity, even if it resurfaced later
*****, are you saying Feudalism and serfdom is the same thing as slavery? Granted, I'm not recommending we go back to that practice, but your statement struck me as rather odd...
If you do see these two (serfdom and slavery) as the same thing, then would you suggest that the capitalistic society in America is also the same as slavery? Some have thought so, because people are progressively forced to work longer hours for less money.
*If you do not see these as the same --Capitalism and Slavery*, *then why not*? If you do see these as the same, then I understand where you are coming from but it would be impossible for me to have an answer to your point, but not for the reason that many would think...
I am trying to assess your definition of slavery and go from there...
*****, oh -- I got what you are saying now. It isn't the idea that Catholics did away with slavery that bothers you -- you are upset because I *linked* the Reformation to its re-institution. You were under the impression that the Protestant Reformation led to a great awakening in morality so you have to deflect from my little *coincidence*. I see now, though we may want to work on this thing called denial. America was started as a Capitalistic Protestant nation, but until 1865, *slavery* was sanctioned here. Just saying....
*****, first, I was being *ridiculous* for suggesting that capitalism and slavery were somehow connected. Then you say slave trading is fueled by *money* and the *market*. Now you are saying that it never ended. Can you *please* take some time and make up your mind -- All this flip-flopping is confusing and making me dizzy...
Bishop Barron is awesome..we need more Bishop like him in the church
Powerful. I’m Orthodox but man I love Bp. Barron.
Stop calling her a bishop she no bishop father
YES she is, ordained and working. She is not a Catholic bishop and has no desire to be so...
Mary Dobbs I'm sorry she has no authority to make her self a bishop , only the bishop of Rome can do that. Or a bishop with apostolic succession.
She didn't make herself a bishop. She was elected and consecrated as one. When Henry VIII split churches most of the English Roman Catholic bishops went along with him since they didn't want to lose their heads. So they retained apostolic succession even though Leo XIII didn't think it continued due to a defective formula. Also, the polish pope didn't think women could be priests but he couldn't come up with a logical or theological reason why other than Catholics never had them before. So Anglicans and Episcopalians probably do have valid ordinations especially since they have the cooperation of Old Catholic bishops in their bishops' consecrations. Over time Catholics will have to realize like they did with keeping slaves that women have to be treated equally as human beings and not as second class as they have been for since time immemorial.
john riordan dude ones the catholic bishops broke away from the bishop of Rome apostolic succession ceased. And the biggest reason for not allowing woman priest is because Jesus chose 12 male priest aka the apostle. Do you think this woman "bishop" has apostolic succession ? 😂 you are delusional. They broke away and started here own church. Orthodox on the other hand still contains apostolic succession because their church was started by one of the apostle. This woman is no bishop of Jesus had a grave he would be rolling in it.
john riordan the only valid anglicans are the ones leaving "the church'" of England and becoming catholic.
The Episcopal church has become a complete circus.
LegallyJustified Please don't be so mean to circuses.
Tim Spangler Lol!
LegallyJustified Well this is what happens if you let feminism co-opt Christianity.
drooleybob No, not really. It went off the rails beginning in our modern era beginning in 1929. Feminism was just one of the many social ills they embraced.
+Bette F ...I'd say that her sermon on Paul and this "admittedly demonically possessed woman" sums up the theology/heresy abundantly spewing from this "bishop"!
Go Bishop Barron, sooooooooooo thankful for you!!!
Thanks Bishop Baron as a cradle catholic I need these apologetic videos...God bless you!!!!
Do you know you have a blessed with your name? Carlos Manuel Rodríguez Santiago a Puerto Rican layman.