Why Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity Are Not Absolute Values
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- Friends, there is a healthy and necessary tension between inclusion and exclusion in any rightly ordered society, including the Church. Are equity, diversity, and inclusivity valuable? Yes, precisely in the measure that they are expressions of love; no, in the measure that they stand athwart love. To grasp this is of crucial importance in the moral conversation that our society must have.
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So much wisdom from Bishop Barron. If I ever become Christian and Catholic it will be because of this man's words and character.
I was raised Catholic and continue to consider myself Catholic. I’ll admit there are bad actors but the best I can tell Bishop Baron is not one of them. From all I’ve seen he’s definitely a good example of what a Catholic should be.
we already said welcome to the church
That’s true for a lot of us here
Be not afraid!
The time is now
I'm shocked TH-cam allows such honest speech. Thank you Bishop.
Our public discourse is completely devoid of philosophical subtlety and wisdom. Thanks for this, Bishop Barron. Now that you've made this important video, please write these same thoughts down in a heartfelt letter and send copies of it to every university president and politician in the United States.
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Warchild, refugee and legal immigrant here. kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control. I have seen what communism will do to stay in or get in power. Anything! Chinese killed 30+ million of their own for power less than a century ago. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that FBI smoked Kennedy and now we know it is true. It was a conspiracy theory that kina virus was manmade but now we know it is true. MSM/Big Tech working overtime to censor/ban. This was intentionally released to fk up US election and for the Chinese to get protesters of Hong Kong streets because if Hong Kong goes so do commies in China. Win-win for commies and US dems....millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues. Godless people will always create hell.
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"Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free."
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
I think there's a confusion in the term, the way I say equality is in the sense that one life is not worth more than another. We are certainly different in our beings, attributes etc. but my life is not worth more or less than another.
Thank you Bishop Barron. We need more of this preached and clarified in our confused world which is in desperate need of the Truth!
What exactly is confused in this world that is in urgent need of a remedial “truth?”
In this video, Bishop Barren sidelines the good in diversity and equity by claiming they’re not “absolute values.” Even though it is not possible to think up a value that is purely absolute without submitting to a lacking rationalism. Then he goes on to say that bickering over equity can create tyranny, yet in the same breath he advocates for this Aristotelian transcendent third. A transcendent third which he admits means a submission of cultures under a certain homogeneity. For some reason he fails to see the same tyranny in that idea. He even describes social expression as a clamoring for rights and prerogatives, like requesting rights is somehow valueless. And then there’s the river with the banks metaphor, he caps it off by saying a society of differing values and choices slows the river and makes it “lazy.” He never acknowledges where the powerful river is flowing or why a diversity of culture makes it lazy instead of more vibrant. Finally,
he goes on to recite platitudes on inclusion and its value. Then takes a complete 180, saying that some culturally congruent groups should exclude other people because they might taint the drive and picture of the exclusive society and so on and so forth. He even brings up America as an example group with values that must exclude immigrants. When exactly did America change from an accepting group of all cultures to a uniform body of drive and morals? The truth is that it never did. The only limit to the ideal of inclusion should be the harmful inclusion of exclusionary people. Anything other than that should be permissible for a healthy and modern society.
Warchild, refugee and legal immigrant here. kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control. I have seen what communism will do to stay in or get in power. Anything! Chinese killed 30+ million of their own for power less than a century ago. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that FBI smoked Kennedy and now we know it is true. It was a conspiracy theory that kina virus was manmade but now we know it is true. MSM/Big Tech working overtime to censor/ban. This was intentionally released to fk up US election and for the Chinese to get protesters of Hong Kong streets because if Hong Kong goes so do commies in China. Win-win for commies and US dems....millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues. Godless people will always create hell.
@@bennoenickx411 Diversity simply means fewer heterosexual Whites. Equity is a principle of law, not something you Antiwhites can take advantage of. No more White erasure of our Western civilisation and mores.
Every time I watch one of the Bishop’s videos I can feel the noise and chaos being turned down. Thank you 🙏🏼
I love this about Bishop Barron. And it's a good point you make.
Many other more reactionary Catholic sites make it seem like the noise is turned up to 11. All I feel after watching them is anger, hate and frustration.
Not so with Word on Fire
I feel the opposite
It is Korea. In this society where communication is cut off, social absurdity is severe. Many young people experience injustice and resentment. So thank you more. Your message changes me for the better and spreads to the people around me. So now you are changing the world. I wish you eternal blessings.
I presume you're referring to South Korea. So you mean the K-pop and its global entertainment bloom are mere facades?
In the Philippines, most youth wants to look like Korean celebrities
-- or pseudo-Koreans, that is.
@@OrionOodama Tell them to wake up and smell the coffee.
Barron & The Knowledge He Provide are of next level. We love it. 🇮🇳
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He is Bishop Barron 🙏🏼🤗🌸
This has been an awesome clarification of something I couldn’t put my finger on for long time! Thank you Bishop Barron!
Justice and love must prevail over everything else.
Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity Are Not Absolute Values, but faith, hope, and love are. If you love only those who love you, why should you get credit for that? Anyone can do that. And if you do good only to those who do good to you, why should you get credit? Even sinners do that. It’s important to treat your friends well, but it’s the way you treat your enemies that truly define you. And if you have enemies, that means you’ve stood up for something, as the saying goes. Which is why making enemies is as necessary as making friends.
In today's common practice within many organizations and businesses, diversity, equity, and inclusion mean homogeneity, weighted outcomes, and exclusion. It's all about appearances and politics.
Bishop Robert Barron: Telling it like it is, since 2007! 🙏
Clarity in these confusing times is valuable. We must make a stand against the liars and those who lie about the lies. We must live not by lies.
_'For God is the God of harmony, not confusion..."_
There’s also a difference between equality and equity, especially in the modern era.
Equality meaning equal opportunity.
Equity meaning equal outcomes.
Very true. He needs to define his terms in this respect. I thought he did a good job in the latter two.
Well, even though we distinguish between equality and equity in those strict definitions, it does not make any difference on the Bishop's point. Still, under that definition, equity is not an absolute value. Being equal in outcome is not good or right in all situations or all instances. The Bishop's point still stands correct, equity is not a fundamental or absolute value like love or justice.
There is a distinction between unity and uniformity, the latter being an affront to the beauty different cultures have to offer, the former being a virtue that can maintain truth. The Church itself does not demand uniformity, we have something like 26 unique rites with their own traditions which nevertheless are all unified with Rome.
Unity is what God wanted at the Tower of Babel.
Uniformity is why he confused their words apart
The head of this Catholic Church provides no sanctuary of conscientious objection for its sons and daughters who are vehemently opposed to the forced and mandated imposition of these experimental vaccines at the expense of countless livelihoods and lives. Hierarchy have everything to gain financially and socially by putting their stamp of approval on this insanity. Informed consent was the ethical medical standard before this outbreak. We are being fed propaganda and driven like sheep.. Bishop Baron, why don' t you protect your flock from these wolves? Why ignore the biggest and most relevant issue in this very abstract talk? Can you dismiss conscientious dissent with a wave of the hand by ridiculing those who have sacrificed their reputations, jobs and livelihoods by calling them ignorant and uninformed, and " anti science." Many sacrificed dissenters are medical professionals who worked the hospitals and were once called heroes. They are being forced out of their jobs if they don' t submit and get " the jab. " Where is safe haven and sanctuary by saying "I'm Catholic"? You will be told that is not a valid religious exemption. Are there no real scientists informing the hierarchy? Are there too many financial inducements to keep your social services full to overflowing by the money people running this show?
@@bdff4007 what do you gain by denying Covid as an actual problem?
Father, The Entire Set-up is FAKE FAKE FAKE. Fake "friendships, community, relations, gatherings", I've seen people, act like if they're on a "friends" sitcom at a Café, people behaving like "Celebs" at the Mall, a Therapist I once Knew professionally was unrecognisable BECAUSE, his Entire face was Unmovable, he Botoxed, new teeth etc!
Also, there are a few young people walking around with "theme" music.... and they're Not in This reality! If you Don't have 'em where you are.....they will be shortly in a City near..... You!
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This is beautiful talking about the historical turn at the mall of monuments in DC ending in Lincoln. So wonderful. Thankful for being able to hear and see all of Bishops content.
Great short piece. I hope the church has more talks on this subject. While good meaning, we have come to over emphasize these values and already are seeing the problems the Bishop is describing...
Clear thinking from a god-centered man... Is living in the spirit... Thank you for "including" us in the heart of our Lord, Good Shepherd.
We need this! Thank you Bishop Barron!
I totally agree with you M.Bishop R. Barron, thank you for all your commitment.
never thought I'd devotedly listen to a Bishop, Thank you Bishop.
Thanks Bishop, a great exposition of the issues. Please keep up the good work, it is much appreciated
A very timely and much needed message. Thank you, Bishop Barron.
Thank you Bishop Barron. We need more of these videos, that clarify concepts that we know in our hearts but don’t know how to explain them.
Great job Bishop Barron! I love the example you took from that one scene in American Idol. I love these breif lectures you give.
Another moving and insightful talk, feeding and answering my lingering realizations.
As always, thanks much Bishop Barron.
Well said Bishop. Clarity and balance are in great need today.
Bishop, thank you for exacting this very vague non fundamental values. Truly I needed to hear this, and share it with so many. Praise God for you and your intellect. Your explanations are so simple and smart...
Thank you, Bishop Barron for your clear, concise, and thought provoking commentary. It's a joy to listen to and contemplate your words of love and wisdom.
Thank you Bishop! If only more corporate and government leaders would have a mature understanding of DE&I such as this.🙏✝️
Thank you Bishop. Wise words. Sadly not enough people will hear them.
The essential Barron...truly edifying....Bless you more, Bishop...Tnanks from the Phils..
That was you best, most clearest short lecture ever!
Brilliant! More of this type of discourse, please.
Thank-you Bishop Barron.
Outstanding clarity here. Thank you!!
Excellent, clear commentary that sheds light on bizarre times. Thank you.
This is a very well timed video. Much love.
Thank you for your clarity and courage to take on hot arguments others prefer to avoid.
Thank you!It is beautiful to hear Word on Fire😍💒🙏
God thank you for this Bishop Barron. It makes faith in God reasonable with human nature...
He was not quick to recognize the threat, but now that he has he speaks the truth with steady force.
Wow, tremendous video. I am in HR and I have always wrestled internally with current DE&I culture and my faith. Now I am wondering, "Am I in the wrong field of work?" For the times..😅
Bishop, you truly are a master of your craft
Well delivered critique of diversity and inclusivity as absolute values; the critique of equality needs more explanation.
Takes on misconceptions with generosity but honesty, excellent analogies. Masterful negotiation of treacherous topics, I absolutely needed to hear this, listened to it twice, so much depth in a short talk
The Bishop nails it 💯
Bravo! You speak to the human heart as well as human intellect. Thank you Bishop Barron.
Thanks Bishop Barron
Well done by the Bishop. I would add to this "tolerance."
This video is greatly insightful. While I acknolwedge there is good in aiming for equity, diversion, and inclusion, I always have felt there is something they lack, as this video explains. I realize that they should be means to greater ends.
Thank you, Bishop Barron. The points you made were very well put forth. The tyranny of “everyone must be included” leads to all reason being lost and some have become positively militant in their criticism of any group that is not inclusive to them - no matter how extreme and unreasonable their demands may be.
I especially liked how you said that they would be excepted into the Church on Christ’s terms and not on their own. And there lies a lot of the problem with some of these people today who are so militant about inclusivity. If we all went to their extremes, there would be no structured society left - only chaos.
I watch this every couple of months. It’s worth coming back to
Very helpful Bishop Barron, thank you. t
Wow, what a great primer for making the case to my, let's say, less than logical friends and family. Thank you, Bishop Barron!
Every American should watch this video. Period.
Thank you Bishop Barron, young student teachers such as myself are bombarded with these ideals all the time like they’re the highest goods. Your commentary sheds much needed light on this.
Key words on there own with out definition mean little and we suffer a lot with that these days. Thankyou Bishop Baron for examining and explaining this in the Godly sense and pointing out who these words mean in our societal and Christian sense. God cannot be separated from our Society even when it's tried to be wrestled away from us as a community and replaced with a different Secular philosophy. Jesus is with us at every area of life if we call on him and become part of the body of Christ by Baptism, Confirmation and when he's calling is to that path
So much to learn every time I listen to Bishop Barron
I want to thank you Bishop Barron for explaining / reinforcing the faith to people like me .. your teaching is totally rigourous hugely relevant and amazingly well delivered to the extent that they leave me in awe .. I unreservedly recommend all your videos and podcasts to everyone thank you again Joe
Well said. I like the stong philosophical /theological underpinnings.
This needs to be broadcast from the rooftops!!!
May God keep giving the wisdom to tend his sheep
God bless you and keep you safe
balanced and nuanced, Love it
Thanks Bishop Barron , your words inspired me a lot , it’s help me Love our Jesus Christ and his holy Church more and more ❤️
Yaaay good to see those books and old stuff behind again!
Very well put, thank you!
This talk is so fantastic,!
Here I found a wisdom. Truth & clarity that straightens out some of the screwy ideas floating around. Thank God for you Bishop!
Thank you Bishop Barron. Videos like this give clarity to thought in this time of moral confusion and great division.
Great job BRB; your insight in this particular matter is inspired by God
Thanks Father Bishop Barron your simple pure n honest message about the Equity Inclusivity and Diversity are not absolute values. They will have value on their own if its subsiervient or will act upon under the Absolute value of Justice and Love! You nail it and summarize it up in a simple sentence and explanation more of this kind and enlightening videos Father! More Power Godspeed Godbless! K
@BishopRobertBarron I would add empathy too, so much used this time as well. Has not the status of a moral value on itself. Thanks as always, Bishop.
Equity & equality are not synonymous. This is a common misconception. Equity refers to recognizing that reaching x level across all groups requires allocating resources differently based on a specific group’s circumstances. For example, reaching the goal of reading at grade level by the third grade will require a different allocation of reading skill development resources for children from homes where parents have advanced degrees vs children from homes w/ out a college educated parent. The resources cannot be equally distributed if the objective is all elementary school children in a school district reading at grade level by the third grade.
Thank you Bishop Barron for this excellent explanation which comes at the topic from the perspective of absolute traditional values. Some of those who are most passionate about equity, diversity and inclusion hold a different set of absolutes--lived experience, current problems, and appealing ideas. It's a rejection of the eternal and the traditional. We need to show them through Christ's love that there is a better way. Let them not see us as hypocrites because hypocrisy that they see in others is the fuel of their worldview. That's a sad way to live, but let us not continue to throw fuel on the fire.
Thank you . You made it clear.
This topic has been so highly disputed over time, but we should stand clear on it. So what Bishop Barron says is very important and so valuable in the discourse.
I might argue that equity (of opportunity, not the straw man equity of outcome), diversity, and inclusivity are not values but rather fruits of the justice and love elevated here. So to compare them all as values I feel is a bit misleading. So why do we have EDI offices? So that we can be specific in outcome goals. Justice and love are impossible to measure.
Thank you! Amen
The ironic thing about this video is that at my Catholic parish, they have the word DIVERSITY literally etched in cast concrete in front of the church. At our last liturgical conference our diocesan directors main introduction was all about diversity and equity. Doesn't line up with what the bishop barron is saying. Thomas Sowell says "Diversity" in itself is nothing to celebrate. It's our ability to overcome the inherent problems that our diversity present to us that we should be celebrating. In other words, celebrate what we have in common that unites us. For us Christians it's God.
Excellent, as always!
Great wisdom on these topics, Bishop Barron. Wisdom like this is needed in today's confused society.
I agree with you Bishop Barron and thank you and God bless you
Thank you!
Thank you, this was on my mind the last few days. Thanks, for the clarification.
Truthful, articulate… Excellent!
Always erudite and honest!! Thank you. Oh how I wish the Lord had given me the ability to communicate as you do. But I'm good enough... and Bishop, to illustrate your point, you probably can't cook or sew as well as I can!!
I'm sure you're right!
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Refreshing honesty.
I totally agree. However, opponents will just argue that DEI is an expression of justice and love. They just have a different idea of what those things look like.
Very elegant, Bishop.
Well said! Thank you!!!
Amazing.thank you.
Bishop: I really appreciate you approaching the nuance of these buzzwords - It IS very important to get words right. Particularly I like the idea of inclusiveness being on Christs terms and not ours: The church "demands... the acceptance of certain principles", exactly.. but Christ welcomes us just as we are, ALL as children of God whether we know it or not. :)
(Consider the Shepard going off looking for the one lost sheep. Such beautiful imagery
Word, Father!! Outstanding lecture.
Extremely helpful. Thank you Bishop Barron.
That’s so wise insight.
Well said, thank you
Great clarity on these contemporary issues, and also spoken with courage.
My brother this is one of your best talks..let us use a sports example...the great stan musial was asked the best team he ever saw....he said the dodgers got the jump when they signed black players...the dodgers were an average team...when they signed jackie...campy..Newcombe they became a dynasty..the words from the great stan the man musial...diversity and inclusion at it's finest....peace....will looking forward to hearing your sermon tomorrow
Thank you pastor.