Lol yeah, especially with different scaling characters.. Unless the relic is way too bad, I still keep it.. I still have some HP crit or Def crit or break crit..
This is great advice! I have played Summoners’s war since day one and I am very familiar on how to farm so I use the same experience with star rail. You are spot on for people who have never played a gatcha game and also it’s okay to use a four star relic with great stats rather than a bad five star relic with bad stats. great video.
I generally just salvage anything that has 2 flat HP/DEF/ATK subs (excluding rare stuff like ERR Ropes or Speed Boots), then also salvage ones that has a main stat that doesn't fit the set and characters it is used on. And while my amount of Relics is slowly growing, it is mainly because I need to trash some of the weaker pieces from support sets.
im a returning player thats still stuck in 1.4 kafka release time, and the past few weeks have been so confusing to me because of all the new content and new meta. i was havinf this exact relic hoarding problem and i hated not immediately being able to analyse and "grade" a relic's stats (e.g. genshin conditioning me into seeing def and hp stats as "bad"), so this is exactly what i needed, and at the perfect timing! used to watch your videos back then, looks like I'll be coming back as well. thank u for all your hard work!!
Good advice. The copium pieces are filling up the relics but they are hard to just destroy. That said… seeing someone fodder a 5star relic with double crit lines and nothing useless like flat def… that’s a luxury I definitely don’t have 😅
perfect. contents that everyone needs help with, be it newbies or vets the info is great and reliable plus no beating around the bush. this channel is one of the best
This video has saved my experience for the game. I was so close to quitting the game permanetly because the game only believes in giving me hp, defense and speed relics. But this video helped me get the proper stats and salvage so many of my bad relics and now I'm actually doing good damage, so thank you!
and that fact allready HAVE torn apart things that then saw would been usefull another char just got. like i got sparkles artifacts before sparkle like they were high good average, tried rolling again for sparkle was all trash and more trash so even the "average" peices i saved ended up being BEST for sparkle, but before sparkle release they were just "Trash"
@@NightmareRex6Ok but if the pieces were good for sparkle how could they be trash pre sparkle release when bronya exists? They literally want the same relics and substats.
Haven't watched this yet, but I already LOVE the topic, as my inventory is always full. I usually can't do relic runs because of this, and I really hope this video will change this problem. Thanks!
Another thing i like to do when weeding out relics I won't use is sort by flat stat substats. Anything with all 3 is an immediate salvage, and I skim through any with 2 and usually end up salvaging most of them. Sometimes you can find a gem with two perfect subs, but it's rare, i usually salvage almost all of them.
I feel like, it's worth pointing out that I'd actually decide how valuable substats are on relics based on what the relic's set bonuses are. On the Thief or Talia sets, for example, I honestly might value Break Effect subs even moreso than Crit subs; while there are characters who benefit from both Break Effect and Crit, you'd only really run the Thief set or Talia set on characters who benefit from Break Effect anyways so you KNOW it will be valuable, meanwhile they may or may not benefit from Crit subs (rn the only character I can think of who seriously wants to build into both Break Effect and Crit is Xueyi and she already has Genius, so until we get a non-Quantum character who scales heavily with both, IDK). I also prioritize SPD substats on most 'support' sets, just because of how valuable SPD is (the faster your characters are, the more your buffers can buff, the more your healers can heal, and the more all of them can generate SP).
A few additional notes: * 'Farming planetary sets takes longer' - Via simulated yes, but theres planetary extraction using whatever (likely broken) Divergent clear build you have this week, so that speeds up planet farming time substantially * As a F2P player who was initially approaching relics as 'let me farm for a character' - this video points out that its probably better to focus on relics IN A VACUUM - Meaning, treat each piece on it's own. Got a body with outgoing healing but you're trying to up the DPS on someone? Pause on the character, and level the piece anyway. It will take you longer to build up an individual unit, but if you focus on relics as a stand-alone, you'll soon end up with a collection of solid pieces that you can mix and match on your core teams (which likely rotate a bit anyways since youre F2P) until you have enough good pieces to lock a set down to a character * As a F2P player, this video should go HAND-IN-HAND with the efficiency guide one you mention/link at the end. For F2P its equally as important to farm high-value, multi-use pieces along side this 'which ones should I level guide' Coincidentally, now that I think about it - your DB from the Efficiency guide video would be really useful for a mini app where you can plug in your F2P characters, and get a sense of what relics you should farm and focus on leveling - This is something I'd be interesting/am capable of doing. The implication being that since F2P doesn't have a lot of resources to level relics, we might opt to salvage a good standalone piece in favor of getting our Feixiao that much stronger now for MC or whatever. Thanks for reading!
Dude trust me they'll release an abundance character that scales off of outgoing healing and crit... Hoyoverse: Actually releases said character* Me:skips it*
The second effect of Vonwacq can be used for some 0-cycle shenanigans like slow Ruanmei, but that isn't very useful for like 95% of players, so yeah...
My strategy is this: for more common pieces (1st, 2nd, 3rd slots) substats has to be 4x at level 0 with maximum 1x flat stat (flat atk/ def/ hp ) or 3 substats without any flat stats. Which stats are those to keep is dependent on set. Anything with mainstats- Speed, ERR, crit rate, crit damage can allow +1 flat stat in level 0 to keep. Regarding Ropes and balls, i sometimes keep trash items of one mainstat if i dont have any of it that has basically any potential to roll in one stat that is insane and therefore to be kept..... But if i have 6x lightning damage spheres, i will treat them same as common pieces
You must have been playing since day one and have all your characters well built right? I can't imagine being that picky until you're at that point where all you have left is slight min-maxing. Speaking as a 1.5 month player
@@iruka1122 not exactly day one. This strategy is about holding pieces for staying in backback. Of course if i desperately wanted some piece for particular character, i could keep worse pieces if i need them now. This is just for inventory buildup- in case if i need some set. I started 1.4ish with Topaz banner
This is when i think HSR players understood the assignment better than Hi3. There's so many Hi3 stigmata that are never used because they aren't the gacha set tied to a specific character. Which kills creativity in team compositions
I’ve got an inventory LITERALLY full of nothing but 5* sets, none of them have more than one flat stat and I don’t know what to do anymore so thanks for this 😂
give me 70000 space to store relics i cant do this shit im losing it mega coping on EVERY piece im at 1950/2000 and cant salvage more AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This video got recommended to me a day before another triple reward event! As if youtube knew 🤨 Anyways great video! I personally will go for the follow-up/DoT domain because even the 2pc set is really good
I exclusively farm DoT/FUA set. I do have nice Thief set that I save one for Xueyei. Still, Idk about keeping DoT gear with crit/critdmg cuz unless Archeron is amazing with the set I don't think anyone can use that. And for FUA, I keep crit/crit dmg as sub and crit for body as minimum, needless to say, its rough (best I got was 2 pair of glove with crit/critdmg).
Yeah, I find this domain (is it a domain in this game?) and the one that has HP/SPD to be the two most worth investing into. There are so many units that can make use of either the 4 piece bonuses or mixes of two and two. Looking forward to seeing what weird new sets get released this year
I think my biggest issue separating relics is EHR / BE substats. I don't really know how to evaluate them. Like I have a +3 Genius Head with flat ATK, HP%, EHR and ER. Considering that at least SW exist that wants EHR, defensive stats on Genius, should I keep this? (Btw, I do have SW and mine has a piece with both EHR and BE, but what is the possibility that another similar character shows up?)
I have been trying to explain this type of stuff to people who sturggle finding good speed rolls. As a day 1 player we have no reason why we shouldnt all have atleast some decent sets. You just need to learn to be efficent which is the hardest thing to do in a gacha game. Trust me guys i know. My adhd brain wonders to new shiny every time a new unit comes out. I only JUST now built my e2 Seele. Had it since the very first banner
I can't even get a crit DMG chest piece for Sparkle I've been farming for 3 days from when I actually got her... I kinda got everything else, but I might try and get an ER rope and better boots...
Sitting here with 1200 locked 5* relics (I don't keep four star relics anymore). What I'm concerned with is my rules for locking... "does it have double crit? does it have spd? does it have err?" otherwise I don't tend to lock it. I'm so doomed lol. (edit: note those rules are any not all, so double crit it get's locked)
If you’re new and are just getting by. Yes it’s better to have good stats on pieces than a 2-4 piece set. It’s better to have a good crit ratio than the set bonus.
I saved all my 5 star relics from launch of the game until they let us salvage them into relic xp material. Now I have nearly max relics to salvage, but I'm not looking forward to sorting through them all, ugh.
I watch HSR streamer and he is salvaging almost every 5 star he gets and has too few relics compared to the already leveled characters his account is really in bad condition for a day 1 player
I have a very simple litmus test when it comes to relics: If I didn't lock it when I got it, it belongs in the trash compactor. ...actually, even if I locked it, there's about 70% chance it also belongs in there, but I was desperate, okay?
Dude trust one day they'll release a defense scaling dot character trust
Well TECHNICALLY if you run Trend of the Universal Market, you proc DoT based on Def... *smokes more copium*
@@csisnotabot7607 Pass me some of that copium bro
If that's the case pls be a preservation or abundance
If they do, they’ll probably make a set designed for def-scaling DoT characters anyway.
Attack % 2pc would be basically useless on them
@@csisnotabot7607 basically Gerard only.. Aventurine doesn't have increased aggro..
Hoarding in RPG games is a classic. "What if I'll need that in the future?"
Lol yeah, especially with different scaling characters..
Unless the relic is way too bad, I still keep it.. I still have some HP crit or Def crit or break crit..
This is great advice! I have played Summoners’s war since day one and I am very familiar on how to farm so I use the same experience with star rail. You are spot on for people who have never played a gatcha game and also it’s okay to use a four star relic with great stats rather than a bad five star relic with bad stats. great video.
I generally just salvage anything that has 2 flat HP/DEF/ATK subs (excluding rare stuff like ERR Ropes or Speed Boots), then also salvage ones that has a main stat that doesn't fit the set and characters it is used on.
And while my amount of Relics is slowly growing, it is mainly because I need to trash some of the weaker pieces from support sets.
Yeah.. I always keep ANY SPD or ER relic mainstat. Cuz I always have a hard time with those two..
im a returning player thats still stuck in 1.4 kafka release time, and the past few weeks have been so confusing to me because of all the new content and new meta. i was havinf this exact relic hoarding problem and i hated not immediately being able to analyse and "grade" a relic's stats (e.g. genshin conditioning me into seeing def and hp stats as "bad"), so this is exactly what i needed, and at the perfect timing! used to watch your videos back then, looks like I'll be coming back as well. thank u for all your hard work!!
Good advice. The copium pieces are filling up the relics but they are hard to just destroy.
That said… seeing someone fodder a 5star relic with double crit lines and nothing useless like flat def… that’s a luxury I definitely don’t have 😅
perfect. contents that everyone needs help with, be it newbies or vets the info is great and reliable plus no beating around the bush. this channel is one of the best
This video has saved my experience for the game. I was so close to quitting the game permanetly because the game only believes in giving me hp, defense and speed relics. But this video helped me get the proper stats and salvage so many of my bad relics and now I'm actually doing good damage, so thank you!
Ah ha, but have you considered this- WHAT IF I NEED IT IN THE FUTURE!? 😭
and that fact allready HAVE torn apart things that then saw would been usefull another char just got. like i got sparkles artifacts before sparkle like they were high good average, tried rolling again for sparkle was all trash and more trash so even the "average" peices i saved ended up being BEST for sparkle, but before sparkle release they were just "Trash"
@@NightmareRex6Ok but if the pieces were good for sparkle how could they be trash pre sparkle release when bronya exists? They literally want the same relics and substats.
Haven't watched this yet, but I already LOVE the topic, as my inventory is always full. I usually can't do relic runs because of this, and I really hope this video will change this problem. Thanks!
Another thing i like to do when weeding out relics I won't use is sort by flat stat substats. Anything with all 3 is an immediate salvage, and I skim through any with 2 and usually end up salvaging most of them. Sometimes you can find a gem with two perfect subs, but it's rare, i usually salvage almost all of them.
I feel personally attacked by the title 😄
thank you eod this is exactly the guide I was looking for 3 months ago
Glad I held on to the defense pieces with crit rate and crit damage subs for aventurine.
triple HP roll💀
Quadrupple plain def roll on a crit dmg body with crit rate and speed substats 😢
I feel like, it's worth pointing out that I'd actually decide how valuable substats are on relics based on what the relic's set bonuses are. On the Thief or Talia sets, for example, I honestly might value Break Effect subs even moreso than Crit subs; while there are characters who benefit from both Break Effect and Crit, you'd only really run the Thief set or Talia set on characters who benefit from Break Effect anyways so you KNOW it will be valuable, meanwhile they may or may not benefit from Crit subs (rn the only character I can think of who seriously wants to build into both Break Effect and Crit is Xueyi and she already has Genius, so until we get a non-Quantum character who scales heavily with both, IDK). I also prioritize SPD substats on most 'support' sets, just because of how valuable SPD is (the faster your characters are, the more your buffers can buff, the more your healers can heal, and the more all of them can generate SP).
The helmet/glove tip was really helpful. Thanks!
A few additional notes:
* 'Farming planetary sets takes longer' - Via simulated yes, but theres planetary extraction using whatever (likely broken) Divergent clear build you have this week, so that speeds up planet farming time substantially
* As a F2P player who was initially approaching relics as 'let me farm for a character' - this video points out that its probably better to focus on relics IN A VACUUM - Meaning, treat each piece on it's own. Got a body with outgoing healing but you're trying to up the DPS on someone? Pause on the character, and level the piece anyway. It will take you longer to build up an individual unit, but if you focus on relics as a stand-alone, you'll soon end up with a collection of solid pieces that you can mix and match on your core teams (which likely rotate a bit anyways since youre F2P) until you have enough good pieces to lock a set down to a character
* As a F2P player, this video should go HAND-IN-HAND with the efficiency guide one you mention/link at the end. For F2P its equally as important to farm high-value, multi-use pieces along side this 'which ones should I level guide'
Coincidentally, now that I think about it - your DB from the Efficiency guide video would be really useful for a mini app where you can plug in your F2P characters, and get a sense of what relics you should farm and focus on leveling - This is something I'd be interesting/am capable of doing. The implication being that since F2P doesn't have a lot of resources to level relics, we might opt to salvage a good standalone piece in favor of getting our Feixiao that much stronger now for MC or whatever. Thanks for reading!
I will have to watch this multiple times my brain just shuts down in 2 minutes intervals
Thank you so much for this, I've been struggling with hoarding a lot of relics 😭😭
Some people have the opposite problem too. They get rid of good relics to roll other relics.
@@Helperishere Now that this video is here, I hope it can help us with our differences on that matter 🥰
Definitely a hoarder myself so I feel ya there haha. I welcome any and all future increases to the amount of relics we can hold 😂
Man just rolled a god def rope. Hopefully someone can use it in the future
Dude trust me they'll release an abundance character that scales off of outgoing healing and crit...
Hoyoverse: Actually releases said character*
Me:skips it*
He has 308 relics total and I am always at the maximum. Some good tips here to help.
I just talked about this kind of video in ur previous one
Like om u know ur viewers well man
Very helpful
Tysm! This helps me so much, been at the top limit so long ❤️
I see Speed Subs, I keep
For real! They are so damned rare 😫
The second effect of Vonwacq can be used for some 0-cycle shenanigans like slow Ruanmei, but that isn't very useful for like 95% of players, so yeah...
I never have this problem cuz I feed it all into leveling other relics. Can't imagine being able to actually salvage anything.
Then too broke to level them
My strategy is this: for more common pieces (1st, 2nd, 3rd slots) substats has to be 4x at level 0 with maximum 1x flat stat (flat atk/ def/ hp ) or 3 substats without any flat stats. Which stats are those to keep is dependent on set. Anything with mainstats- Speed, ERR, crit rate, crit damage can allow +1 flat stat in level 0 to keep. Regarding Ropes and balls, i sometimes keep trash items of one mainstat if i dont have any of it that has basically any potential to roll in one stat that is insane and therefore to be kept..... But if i have 6x lightning damage spheres, i will treat them same as common pieces
You must have been playing since day one and have all your characters well built right? I can't imagine being that picky until you're at that point where all you have left is slight min-maxing. Speaking as a 1.5 month player
@@iruka11221.5 months is nothing so yeah
I’m even more picky, if two stat doesn’t roll into crit rate or damage the piece is trash
@@iruka1122 not exactly day one. This strategy is about holding pieces for staying in backback. Of course if i desperately wanted some piece for particular character, i could keep worse pieces if i need them now. This is just for inventory buildup- in case if i need some set. I started 1.4ish with Topaz banner
17:28 isnt it thats a good set for imaginary trailblazer?
This is when i think HSR players understood the assignment better than Hi3. There's so many Hi3 stigmata that are never used because they aren't the gacha set tied to a specific character. Which kills creativity in team compositions
I’ve got an inventory LITERALLY full of nothing but 5* sets, none of them have more than one flat stat and I don’t know what to do anymore so thanks for this 😂
give me 70000 space to store relics i cant do this shit im losing it mega coping on EVERY piece im at 1950/2000 and cant salvage more AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This video got recommended to me a day before another triple reward event! As if youtube knew 🤨
Anyways great video! I personally will go for the follow-up/DoT domain because even the 2pc set is really good
howd you read my mind thats literally what i was wondering to do yesterday
I exclusively farm DoT/FUA set. I do have nice Thief set that I save one for Xueyei. Still, Idk about keeping DoT gear with crit/critdmg cuz unless Archeron is amazing with the set I don't think anyone can use that. And for FUA, I keep crit/crit dmg as sub and crit for body as minimum, needless to say, its rough (best I got was 2 pair of glove with crit/critdmg).
Yeah, I find this domain (is it a domain in this game?) and the one that has HP/SPD to be the two most worth investing into. There are so many units that can make use of either the 4 piece bonuses or mixes of two and two. Looking forward to seeing what weird new sets get released this year
I NEED THIS 👍, I'm maxed out on relics already 😅
This is what I need!
Constantly at full storage.
Same with the my CE storage in FGO.
Energy rope is so rare to drop for me that after 4 months of playing ive only gotten 2 and one of them i had to custom synthesizer to get it
I am a professional relic horder, almost had full relic slots up till like two weeks ago as someone who bought like 2 battlepass before.
I think my biggest issue separating relics is EHR / BE substats. I don't really know how to evaluate them. Like I have a +3 Genius Head with flat ATK, HP%, EHR and ER. Considering that at least SW exist that wants EHR, defensive stats on Genius, should I keep this? (Btw, I do have SW and mine has a piece with both EHR and BE, but what is the possibility that another similar character shows up?)
This video was helpful! Thank you!
I'm too poor to even imagine my inventory full of relics but, great video anyway. Now, I don't have to think twice before labelling relic to "trash"
Accidently locked all my artifacts so now i have to manually unlock like 1000 of them if i want them salvaged any ways.
I set some relics as discarded but they don’t appear
I have been trying to explain this type of stuff to people who sturggle finding good speed rolls. As a day 1 player we have no reason why we shouldnt all have atleast some decent sets. You just need to learn to be efficent which is the hardest thing to do in a gacha game.
Trust me guys i know. My adhd brain wonders to new shiny every time a new unit comes out. I only JUST now built my e2 Seele. Had it since the very first banner
Thanks for the video, it’s extremely helpful but aren’t you supposed to be on break?😂
What break?
I can't even get a crit DMG chest piece for Sparkle I've been farming for 3 days from when I actually got her... I kinda got everything else, but I might try and get an ER rope and better boots...
Can we have an updated tips for the latest ver?
i love your advice man you are the goat
Sitting here with 1200 locked 5* relics (I don't keep four star relics anymore). What I'm concerned with is my rules for locking... "does it have double crit? does it have spd? does it have err?" otherwise I don't tend to lock it. I'm so doomed lol. (edit: note those rules are any not all, so double crit it get's locked)
Can we get an updated version of this please lol
can someone give an advice, are main stat way more important that the artifacts passive ?
If you’re new and are just getting by. Yes it’s better to have good stats on pieces than a 2-4 piece set. It’s better to have a good crit ratio than the set bonus.
@@SDseb thank u
I saved all my 5 star relics from launch of the game until they let us salvage them into relic xp material. Now I have nearly max relics to salvage, but I'm not looking forward to sorting through them all, ugh.
They need to increase the limit since I had to salvage a lot
i love you eod
Should I salvage relics into Relic Remains (for relic synthesis) or Relic EXP?
5* for Relic Remains (Hoard it until you wanna craft something) and 4* Below for Relic Exp
I’m a new F2P player. I got Feixiao, I don’t have a good healer besides Natasha. Should I summon for Lingsha and just wait for Sunday?
Me lazy to clean my relics
Your videos are so helpful
Wait people have enough relics to hoard? Mine get fed into other pieces IMMEDIATELY
Awesome video
Man I constantly max out my relics and just too lazy to sort thru hundreds of relics
Its annoying I have 1500/1500 constantly lol so I am gonna watch this vid.
idk how this game does it but It takes meweeks to get a single good piece of a relic.
I watch HSR streamer and he is salvaging almost every 5 star he gets and has too few relics compared to the already leveled characters his account is really in bad condition for a day 1 player
You don’t need every character to have their own sets
You just swap gear between them as needed
@@TheRoleplayer40k I understand but swapping them every time while checking the build is ok is pain
17:33 :o
I have a very simple litmus test when it comes to relics:
If I didn't lock it when I got it, it belongs in the trash compactor.
...actually, even if I locked it, there's about 70% chance it also belongs in there, but I was desperate, okay?
I have 1000 relics and this should help lol
Honestly, what are you doing leveling up a DPS relic with DEF mainstat?
Hoarding??? How are people able to hoard when I always seem to lack relics 😭
I am just lazy to craft more relics lol
feed +0 five stars as fodders is such a waste imo
How the fuck do you have so much gear? I farm them every time I don't have traces to farm but I rarely get anything worth keeping.
"Hey guys its me eod gaming here"
Me who has zero 5 star relics
Wow ok...
Feels like doing work lol
Def Scaling Character one day, man 😂😂😂😂
This system is horrible. Not even genshin dared.