I have a feeling that Aglaea is the “Dr Ratio” of Remembrance characters and there’s a “Feixiao”-type character for Remembrance just around the corner Herta on the other hand is an Emanator character and our first limited Ice DPS since… Jingliu.
I don't agree that Aglaea is more F2P-friendly. Aglaea's damage falls off quite a bit if she doesn't have enough energy from outside sources to keep her in her enhanced state. New players may not have Sunday, Huohuo, or even Tingyun. RMC is a nice buff for Aglaea, but they can also be used with The Herta, alongside the free mini Herta everyone gets. Along with ice being a rarer element and The Herta doing well in all game modes, not just Pure Fiction, I feel a lot more comfortable recommending The Herta to a new player over Aglaea.
The herta sucks in MOC or Apocalyptic Shadow. Watch view vids and Look at her damage against single Targets in MOC or Apocalyptic Shadow. Aglaea, Tingyun, RMC and a sustain of your choice is easy to build.
@@mcutv959Herta definitely does not suck. Yes, she doesn’t do exceptionally in single target scenarios, but she still does a lot of damage if they have 42 stacks. Also, nowadays there isn’t a ton of battles where there is only one enemy, most bosses have minions and MOC is getting more and more enemies per wave as well.
@Asfwgutxi idk which moc youre playing but If you fight svarog and one more enemy. You wont be able to Stack Up to 42 😅 it takes to much time. Herta will make pure fiction easy af. Because the stacks will be transfered to the next Wave and Stack Up that way. But MOC she sucks. She Deals in MOC against Bosses Just as much DMG as jingliu lmao. As i Said, watch TH-cam vids with a f2p Team 🤷
@Asfwgutxi the only erudition character which is decent in single target Fights is rappa. She Deals enough DMG with superbreak. The other erudition characters are Made for pure fiction, it is how it is.
@mcutv959 yeah all this whining about stack gen for 2 target scenarios makes zero sense, you'll have serval acting 5 times in the first 2 cycles + 5 ults with qpq gal, and it only goes uphill from there, herta with a batt is very competent in moc
I argue its the complete opposite of what you said. Herta is much more f2p friendly, while Aglaea wants really specific units to shine. Herta can use any erudition unit, including herta puppet which is completely free, and even serval as one of the better options since she ults so fast (shocking, i know) and literally any premium harmony works with her kit. Aglaea on the other hand really, really depends on Sunday right now, cause she is super dependant on her ult and not getting full ult enhanced state uptime is a major, major con as her summon dies alongside most of the stacks of speed, which also boosts her damage. Afaik, no teams currently can make her ult have 100% uptime without Sunday. She also really wants Huohuo as a sustain, so thats another specific unit on the mix.
I agree. At the moment from what I have seen, Aglaea is pretty much going to be in the same situation as Firefly when she released with a limited team for her to shine and maybe even depending more on other 5 star limited characters.
@Pitinoseishin Depends on what you need or like. Maybe its better to wait a bit after 3.0 to know more info on future characters and the enemies you will encounter to make a better decision. I'm on the verge on skipping everything on 3.0 unless I enjoy the characters in the test run.
Ok, at this point, dorsnt fast/often refer to pretty much every other team? Break, FUA, hypercarry, DOT, all want to go as fast as possible. The only exception would be counter. I think we can remove fast/often as one of the team archetypes, no?
Yeah the only char that really fit "fast/often" is aglaeae and FF imo, bcs they have giga spd buff... Beside, many dps want go high spd too like dot mainly 160+, other team comps just want a 134/135 spd imo just for -1 spd 100% AA thingy or to take 2nd turn on 1st cycle.
Personally I'm getting more wary of self contained kits with DPS. Think about DHIL and Jingliu they were both very powerful when they were released but fell off relatively quickly. Outside of action advance characters (which we have 5 of already being Bronya, Sparkle, Robin, Sunday and RMC) what type of Characters would interact well with Aglaea? I suppose Energy and Speed buffers but we have Tingyun, Huo Huo, Sunday, Asta, and Hanya for that (plus E2 Bronya). I just don't see a lot of new synergies being created for Aglaea in the future. It wouldn't be a hard as with DHIL or Jingliu so Hoyo did learn their lesson there but I feel like it isn't happening anytime soon. Meanwhile Herta potentially can work with any new Erudition or AoE character that comes out. Her mechanic depends on other characters to be effective. It certainly makes her a safer option since her synergies have an easier condition. Sad to say since I was excited for Aglaea but the more I look into her she's just not a good fit for my account.
Plus Aglaea's another lightning dps. We are swimming in them still imo. Like if people did pull Sunday for the summon meta they most likely have Jing Yuan so getting another lightning dps feels redundant. People who aren't investing in Summon meta might have Acheron or Kafka teams. Acheron is still perfectly usable so far and I can't see it changing that drastically instantly imo. Kafka and DoT are starting to fall behind a bit, but that could always change in the future with another DoT support.
in the future theres gonna be more remembrance support, remembrance path is not tied to just dps as you can see with remembrance mc being a support, also non remembrance unit can buff memosprite as you can see in the livestream huo huo can target aglaea's memosprite, and whos to say they will not release a premium true damage buffer in the future, simillar to fugue being a premium version of harmony mc, also note aglaea get doomposted as much as the other underdog units (rappa, yunli, jade, bh, jiao, topaz) but yet these units perform very well in the meta right now, something to consider
This is a non-statement bc Kafka exists, we thought that she would be future proof given how she is completely generic and can improve with future support, but got abandoned at the beginning of 2.0 after BS came out, and even then she was just ok given how Acheron powercrept everything in the game. Aglaea on the other hand is closer to FF, she is a new gameplay style that isn't a niche, and we know that we aren't getting a new rememberance unit for 2 more patches thx to leaks, if any support comes out that helps rememberance units, you just take out Robin or your sustain and make Aglaea immensely stronger immediately. Both are equally viable bc they both will work for at least 2-3 patches before you need to replace them or pull a dedicated support, there isn't a "future proof" choice here
@@KingDarkness100 "I have not died yet, therefore, I might be immortal". Jokes aside, we thought that JL and DHIL would not be powercrept as well when they were new since a unit that gained that many buffs and tuned themselves so much was to be an outlier, but we were wrong. As enemies need to resist the insane amounts of damage that we already do, they increase their HP, and Hoyo wants to show that newer units are good to pull for, so they increase the damage gradually until that increase in HP is no longer relevant, this has happened every patch. Just as Acheron now is a cycle or 2 slower in MoC, in comes Aglaea and 0-cycles with relative ease, and there are no debuff units in sight. The alternative comes from supports that fix mechanical flaws over older units, like Sparkle for DHIL and Sunday for JY, giving them a second wind, but that still implies that they were powercrept in some way previously. FF will get powercrept either by newer units or newer enemies, and then she'll be replaced by a new unit that fixes her problems relative to the new meta.
Both are good, but i think emanator character would be had a place in long term. Maybe the peak of rememberance dps is castorice or phainon (potensial)
Aglea will be powercrept. There are 3 other Remembrance characters coming out in 3.0 with the last one being the strongest cuz Hoyo loves powercreep. If you like Aglea, get her. But prepare to pull for her eidolons to keep her relevant on your account long-term (like with every other DPS).
The Herta, easily. Character power aside (though Herta is somewhat stronger), you can basically play her straight out of the box, and do well. I'm sure a lot of people already have the relics for her, both the Scholar set and planar set pieces if you were farming for Acheron. She also can run F2P LCs or gacha 4 Stars and do well. For Aglaea, you will need to farm up the new summon set, so it will take you a lot of time potentially to even be able to play her. But setting this aside, you will also need to pull a bunch on her LC banner to get at least a 4 Star Rememberance LC. Another massive advantage The Herta has is her teambuilding. Almost entirely F2P. RMC and Smol Herta you get for free, and everyone will get them, even newbies. Smol Herta is one of the first characters you get. Her best support is Robin, but RMC is very strong for her as well. She can also run with any Erudition character, Smol Herta or Himeko will be great for wave gamemodes and bosses (like the bananacademic something), for most other content you can run Jing Yuan, Serval, Argenti, etc. Jade will be strong too, but not many people have her I think. Qingque would be bad. She can also run most sustains, though Aventurine or Lingsha would be the best since they do a lot of area attacks. For example, for people who have them, using Jade to put Debt Collector on Lingsha results in a lot of stacks for The Herta. Also, she wears a cute witch outfit with a huge hat, so 100 million points added to her score. Aglaea has incredibly stringent teambuilding requirements, simply because we don't have many supports that archetype. So it will potentially be a long time before she reaches her full power level. Atm, she *needs* Sunday, and another good support. RMC is fine, but Robin is better. Sparkle and Bronya can't target summons, so no AA there. Only Sunday can do that, and only he can buff both the summoner and summon. So without Sunday, you're going to do much less damage. Also, while not a must, Huohuo is her best sustain due to granting energy. Beyond that, it doesn't really matter, but you probably want Lingsha, since area heals can affect summons, but from what I know shields can't. Then there's reason outside the game. As you mentioned, Herta is much more popular. She is beloved by fans, and her reveal made them go wild. She's going to be very powerful and future-proof, partly because her banner will bring in a ton of money. Aglaea seems more like a beta test for Rememberance DPSs, and while she will be a top tier DPS on release still, but she's probably not as future-proof as The Herta - I fear her case will be similar to Seele. The Herta being future-proof comes mostly from being a similar place to Acheron, incredibly anticipated Emanator DPS, so while she might get weaker in like a year, she won't be any weaker than Acheron is now. HOYO has been pretty consistent in making popular characters powerful, a rather simple yet effective business strategy. Aglaea is nowhere near as popular and anticipated as The Herta, so keep that in mind. It will also be a long time before they release a character like The Herta, while we will get another Rememberance character soon. They drip-marketed Tribbie and Mydei, so they will be in 3.1. But 3.2 or 3.3 at the latest will definitely bring another Rememberance DPS, most likely Castorice, who has an undead dragon.
I disagree about The Herta is not preferable to new player than Aglaea because new account can choose Himeko on the free 5* selector and receive free small Herta under the assumption you missed Sunday banner. Then they can pull Tribbie and/or Robin. Also, if they have Bronya on Departure warp, that's a good team already. Hypercarry The Herta and FUA team.
Not even that Herta's best battery is Passkey serval which is a 3 star LC btw and serval is literally free and if you don't have robin or RM pela doesn't fall that far from them since she could also generate stacks for The Herta. Gallagher is also her 2nd or 3rd best sustain option. You can literally run The Herta, Serval, Pela, Gallagher. Afaik pela and serval are both free. Gallagher or Pela can be swapped out after you obtain RMC.
I see Serval being advised as a F2P option to be used for new players as a battery for The Herta, but realistically, you'd have to be a veteran player to build a battery serval right since a typical new player won't research to a level that they'd learn about using a 3 star light cone like Passkey, ERR rope and the wind set, with targeted proper SPD threshold. Yeah as a veteran player who frequents subreddits, its common to know of what to build a battery serval, but to a new player, its highly likely gonna be easy for them to build the right serval for The Herta. Not to mention the times they'd have to spend farming on the wind set caverns and planars
@@JoxTheMash29you have a lot of self modeling resin when you're new. There's no need to farm the wind set directly (serval only wants speed anyways so, no big problem). Also, even if someone is new understand why serval is good is not complicated, she hits very often, so she is good, and the most she hits, the better is herta, that's all.
As a cautious day 1 player I think that it is always best to wait for more characters to be released when it comes to something new and fresh being introduced to the game. Remembrance is a new and fresh path so we can definitely expect many more characters to be released for this path in the coming patches. The question is how will Hoyoverse sell us new Remembrance characters if we already have Aglaea? I bet she would start to lose relevance with more Remembrance characters being introduced into the game over the course of this year. As a long time player who can already clear all content I would rather go for Herta who seems to be a better long term investment. Any new erudition character in the future has a potential to buff Herta due to her unique kit but most buffs to Aglaea would likely also buff future Remembrance characters too.
One thing I've noticed, is whenever HSR adds a new "mechanic" that they want to push, it kind of sucks at first, but eventually gets really good. I didn't get into the break meta because I missed a few key support units, like Ruan Mei, and without them break was terrible early on. Eventually it became very strong, but by then I was missing the framework to make the newer break units work, so I'm worried that skipping the "new hot thing" (summons?) might end up biting me in the ass if I skip now.
I'm skipping this patch. With my current team, I'm pretty sure I can clear any content in the game. I'd rather use my jades on characters such as castorice, cypher and cyrene. Not to mention, the upcoming collaboration of Fate/Stay Night is almost here as well.
I see it like a new tech emerging in the market. Options are limited, how it's going to go down the road is rather unknown at this point. I'll just wait till 3.3 to see where summoners are heading. For now, Herta, followed by Lingsha are on my priority pull list.
Friendly reminder, we have seen teasers for the upcoming characters in 3.x but we have heard nothing more about the Fate collab yet, just putting it out there in case anyone plans to save just in case.
@sairam-786 with E1S1, Even Aglaea E0S1 will still hits hard.. But I kind a want to E2S1 an "3.0 Acheron" And Aglaea seems to be not it.... Still i want Fugue and Lingsha to play Himeko Break Meta Yet Herta E0S1 is already Stronger and Pass my E2S1 DanIL damage with Ease. I only has around 350 to 400 pulls counted until 3.0 last final day.. See what I mean ?
Yo! I've been playing the game from launch and I got huohuo, sunday and I'll be getting rmc. I main acheron (with jq, pela, galla) and have a premium dot team (dot is dogshit rn I know but kafka). I also have jl, king yuan(him with sunday feels decent with all the pf buffs but ik he's not that good) and topaz. Should I go for a follow up based setup with the next reruns for fei and robin or should i focus on summon meta? If I do go for the summon meta, should I go for fate collab or should I just get castorice in 3.x? I'm assuming aglaea will be like 2.x beginning and we will be getting stronger units towards the middle of 3.x, mostly castorice. Please help.
Go for summon meta for sure The Herta and Aglaea already better than Feixiao new characters will at least be on par with those two. If you are going for Castorice that is a bit far away now I would get Robin since you can use her with Jingyuan, Acheron or DOT. Robin would prop Jingyuan up a lot for sure.
Long term investment, if The Herta can trivialize pure fiction making it easier to 40k one side consistently, you can then focus on the other game modes.
Hopefully hp inflation won't be too crazy in 3.x I pulled pretty much every team in 2.x and have vertically invested into Acheron, Robin and Jiaoqiu. I clear MOC in 2 cycles currently , 80k every pure fiction this time with 2 cycles leftover and 7300+ Apocalyptic Shadow. It would be insane powercreep if I go from this to not clearing at all within a few patches. I will wait for Tribbie and Castorice for now.
yeah, the power of eidolon is needed to keep the dps relevant. My E0 S1 Acheron can no longer clear MoC 12 and Apoc. I now use E0 S1 Feixiao and E1 S1 Rappa to full clear those areas. How many eidolons does your Acheron have?
@@boiledliddo Its E1S1 Acheron, E0S1 Jiaoqiu and E1S0 Robin thats all the vertical investment on my account. I have E0S0 Feixiao, Firefly, Jingliu and Black Swan(All E0S0) as well. I would say there may be something wrong with your Acheron build she can still clear MOC and Apoc easily without Jiaoqiu right now E1 is just crit rate
I don't pull for meta, just my favorites, but I think The Herta is probably a safer pick at this point due to existing synergies she can have due to easy conditions (other erudition units) and some flexibility in non-PF content with they way her kit works. Aglaea is also the first in her path (along with RMC) and support/synergies with her will depend on whatever future characters they release bar Sunday, who was released before her and suits her perfectly. Some archetypes have been clearly favored more than others (FUA/Break has been dominant) while other characters who are best at other niches neglected (DoT (Kafka/Black Swan), HP-drainers (Blade/Jingliu), SP-heavy (Dan Heng IL, Sparkle). Time will tell if Aglaea will fall into the first or latter category but given how Remembrance is going to be a shiny new path she's probably going to remain relevant for at least the entirety of 3.0.
The Herta for the long term. More future Remembrance DPS units will come and there will be competition. On the other hand, an emenator unit will likely stay relevant on the meta. But not only that, The Herta's technique to let you see nearby treasures is a HUGE selling point. It's just as, if not more handy than Acheron's auto-kill technique. It's a cool and handy detail that I think should be accounted for despite being a minor function.
I'm hoping and praying Aglaea is viable without Sunday, but I will likely skip until I know if I will be able to make her work. Definitely getting Herta and her LC though!
I think for my account peronsally, I have 3 lighting units already for different purposes. Acheron(debuff/hypercarry), Kafka(DoT), and Jing Yuan(Summon, eventually when I get Sunday) so skipping Aglaea is a no brainer since I don't want another lightning unit. I'll wait for a remeberance unit of a different element to drop and they'll fullfill my rememberance dps. I skipped Jiangliu a lot for another Ice DPS so The Herta is my go to, plus I have a lot of erudition that need fine tuning so I can clean them up for the Herta.
Question for anyone who can help: I currently run Rappa, Fugue, Harmony MC and Gallagher as my first team. Acheron, Pela, Sunday and Aventurine as my second team. Should I pull for Feixiao and Robin to build a FUA team or go for Herta/Aglea?
Seeing how u already have 2 solid dps, i think that feixiao have a lower value for ur account. If i were u i would prob just pull robin & her e1. I am a feixiao main and im pulling for robin e1 in the upcoming banner
Honestly I'd grab Lingsha for your Rappa team then either grab Robin or wait to see if Jaioqiu is rerunning in 3.1 (we'll know before Robin's banner is over).
Im gonna go against the waves here and say no to pulling Robin. Even though shes is broken as she is, no teams you have currently wants Robin, Acheron is more than fine with Sunday (assuming Acheron is E2) and she does not function in break. The next meta is going to be HP based characters, so Robin doesnt go there either as she buffs mainly ATK. By the time another meta arrives that could potentially want her, they will just sell a new harmony thats better than robin, since they want money, or at least they will rerun Robin again for the 19th time.
@@czsgenesisi was thinking the same, im in the same situation (but with FF instead of rappa) and everyone is saying that i should get robin but she doesnt fit in any of my teams, and i have to pull for jiaoqiu and ruan mei still, plus i dont think she will be BIS for rememberance since we'll have 3 supports launched (RMC, sunday and tribbie) so i'll prob skip her and get the herta, might regret latter tho
Wanted Aglaea more but was worried about the likelihood of immediate powercreep again. Also still don't have Lingsha/Aventurine/whomever might help with the current situation.
im here still scrapping every possible jades for Fugue. Spent 120+ pulls with her nowhere in sight 😢. i think im on 50 ish pity rn with guaranted edit: MOC resets and i finally got her, f"ck hoyo it was on 79 pity. I think it was at least 140 pull. No more sh1ts for the Herta 😭, couldve had more if i didnt pull for sunday sigLC, but it was too good to skip
Regarding remembrance, considering we're definitely getting remembrance March7 down the line, being our beloved poster girl, she'll be the Firefly of 3.X. If you compare to 2.0, Black Swan has her niche and Sparkle aged the way of Bronya since Robin exists.
Its a tough choice because i want them both but it was kind of sealed by me investing into e1s1 sunday so ill take aglaea and skip herta. Im also forced to go for aglaea light cone as most people might not have realised you wont have any cone to equip as its a new path which means 75-150 + 65 pulls :( Should i have any excess above 220 pulls ill try for herta, maybe ill get lucky but we dont know if she functions well at e0 and no cone. Im not sure if herta is on the 1st half on the banner, if so that sucks too coz i cant get aglaea and then drop the leftovers. Also pulling herta may mean needing to get tribbie the next patch which could be impossible. Delusional hope is i get both in 75 pulls and a cone for aglaea, well see!
Will pick herta because I don't have anymore useful ice character. Jingliu is cool but I hate to bring healer so she won't kill the team or hoping my adventurine shield didn't break while the team hp already low thank to her causing that.
I want to pull aglaea so bad I have the perfect team but it seems like there’s no good reason to pull her (I also want Castorice, they’re the only characters I want from 2.X)
She's just like Acheron. All Nihility characters can work with her but only Jiaoqiu and Pela can really bring her to full potential. For The Herta, small Herta and Jade are the top 2 picks. But your question is honestly a non-issue given that small Herta is free for everyone and has the same element as big Herta, so there is no reason to even question synergy issues.
Ive wanted Jade since she came out but i had to skip her, i really need help with the Pure Fiction game mode and i like the ten stoneheart characters to begin with. Seeing Hertas design i fell in love with her too so im going to pull both Jade and The Herta. I also want their lightcones but i only have enough jades to get on of theirs... Which lightcone is more value for their character?
Herta Lightcon is so GOOD if they didn't nerfed it to 140 energy requirement. (what a farce they learned from people pulling Sunday Lightcon for Bronya) I would have said that was a MUST HAVE for any erudition character, so Herta Lightcon for Herta is a not a waste of money cause of the 1 Skill Point Refund after Ultimate. (herta Ultimate action advance to another turn for her enhanced skill attack, so incase you don't want to be SP negative)
Hear Me Out: as an unofficial Emanator of Erudition Rappa Herta Tribbie RuanMei No sustain team, insane synergy (combining aoe, break, freeze, delay from both Imaginary and Quantum break) Yea I need to know the kit of Tribbie to be sure, but there’s this Curio that increase break efficiency (or something that has to do with Increase dmg to broken enemies) of only Ice and Imaginary So this is the thing that popped off my mind the moment EODG reminds me that Rappa is in fact - an erudition character Rappa is mostly SP neutral The Herta is SP hungry RuanMei is flexible (but if possible, skill to guarantee Def shred + Res shred full uptime is better) Tribbie only needs to be SP Positve to Flexible to fit in this team and she might be able to do smth like that Curio where your Quantum Break can be stacked up to 99 times, which is enable by bunch of AoE attacks from Rappa, THerta and Tribbie herself? So excited to try out or see someone try out this team (i cant possibly get both THerta and Tribbie in back to back versions)
imo Herta has a better long term staying power. she is easier to use and doesnt require specialized supports. Jade might be her best sub DPS for the current unit pool, but most players receive Serval, puppet Herta and able to pick Himeko from the selector. (sorry QQ, but you're a Destruction unit pretending to be Erudition) not only that, future Erudition units will be an indirect buff to Herta since she requires one as a teammate.
ayo guys my rappa fugue e1 hmc and THE Herta in one (considering everyone will prolly be ice weak) team? am i cooking? super duper break herta +rappa team with double delay
Yea that was the main motivation for most people to pull Herta. Until they revealed that EVERYONE will be given treasure compasses to locate treasure chests. Which makes Herta's technique absolutely redundant
@@mizushirokanon9174 Dude, the reality is that most players up till now find the majority of chests on their own. The annoying part is when they miss out one or two chests that they just can't find. Let's assume you are right that somehow the free treasure compasses are unreasonably and excruciatingly difficult and annoying to use (which is very unlikely but ok). The compasses are STILL a QOL improvement that is efficient enough to find the last few chests and doesn't come at the cost of jades. Just accept that Herta's technique is redundant at this point.
I can't decide whether to go for The Herta or Feixiao. Aglea does not attract me as much. Still saving to wish for Fugue right now. Man. The pain. I have Dr. Ratio, Topaz, Robin, Aventurine, and Himeko, Herta, Serval (somewhat built), QQ, Jing Yuan. Currently lack Wind Dps. (sub-)Dps owned: Clara, Jungliu, Firefly, Acheron, Dr. Ratio, Himeko, Herta, QQ, JY, Dan Heng (half built), Sushang (almost complete), March Hunt, Topaz Have some trouble with PF, AS (~10 stars); MOC is fine (35-36 stars).
Skipping Algeia for The Herta bc I have Acheron e2 s1, and General Jing Yuan and Sunday. When a diff element comes out with remembrance then I'll grab him/her
Hoyo never feels bad about powercreeping X.0 / X.1 characters. Aglaea likely due to element won't be as good as saving for remembrance quantum 3.2 char...
Fine for the last time, if you pulled Fugue cause of the Lingsha disaster... you already have one piece of a TEAM pull Lingsha if you lack DPS/Sustain/Debuffer/Auto Cleanse and a summon that she can action forward. Lingsha as DPS comes higher then any sub dps and with Fugue she will be able to ignore toughness like a real dpser her bunny too. If you skipped Fugue cause you pulled Sunday, you are lucky he isn't that bad cause you had to pull E0S1 to make him SP neutral. so it is a bummer cause you missed the real MUST pull Fugue. then go for the HERTA, unless you love Aglaea (always remember if you love a character PICK it even if it is not meta you will make it work by slaving it out) then in that case Pull Aglaea E1S0 (the E1 is needed to regain her energy.. without energy Aglaea cannot reuse her ultimate is a worthless DPSER) pull Robin if do not have Sunday.. and much better then Sunday cause Robin Action advance whole party including summons by 100% and gives better buffs then Sunday. you can only use Aglaea E0S0 if you have sunday and houhou .. or else like Acheron E0S0 you are thinking what a crappy DPS.
I'm getting Herta cuz i want my 2nd EZ PF team. But honestly i say skip any character on the begining 3.0 patch there will be better Rememberance later on & Herta can rerun/ powercreep down the line
1:28 No that not true at all, since both of them use robin which is the core of the FUA team. Aglaea team also use Lingsha which is from break team while The Herta is likely gonna use either Aventurine or Lingsha since they are the only choice of healer/tanker. Which made both of them overlap with both break and FUA team even tho they present as the new team.
@@froggotech8283how did you guys know her energy pool when no creator share the information the creator server yet? If it not base on creator server it can change anytime.
Semi newer players, got in around when feixiao was out, got lucky and got her full team, Robin, topaz, adventurine. Play on and off so I'm basically still new, pulling aglea going forward, gonna try running her with sunday, either R Mc or topaz, and probably Gallagher or lingsha when she comes back
If you're gonna do that you're better off with The Herta Aglaea needs HH because of her 300 energy cost, Sunday can be just replaced with RMC. The Herta's best battery is literally passkey serval a 3 star lc and a 4 star character, she can use Pela instead of rm or robin to help with stack generation and her BiS sustain is either lingsha or Gallagher. The herta is by far the most f2p friendly and beginner friendly meta relevant 5 star dps.
@@KingDarkness100 That all 4 star team can 0 cycle both halves of the 3.0 MoC at only 1 cost. It will be even better if you have 5 star counterparts whereas Aglaea will already have competition 1 patch after her release be powercrept in 2 patches after her release. Aglaea's best supports are the best supports in the game anyone with HH, Sunday and Robin will perform well. "Ain't gonna clear shit like teams with true limited characters" It is already better than RRAT, DoT, SB and Acheron.
I need some pulling options I already have fei's BiS relics at 84/188 without supports or any LC, but I don't have robin yet(No eagle march nor eagle bronya cuz eagle set hates me). As for The Herta I already have an eagle set energy slave serval and pela, the only thing I need left is rememberance MC for 0-cycles. The characters that I have Built are: E2S1 FF HMC E1S1 RM E0S0 Fugue E0S1 Seele (top1% on seeleland btw but she's powercrept as shit alr esp without robin and E2 sparkle) E0S1 Dhil (same case as seele) E3S0 Himeko E1S2 Gepard E0S0 HH E0S0 Blade(why did I even pull for this fodder) E2S0 Bronya E0S1 Sparkle (Unusable without 171 speed Eagle+ S5 DDD and I don't have both) E1S0 SW E0S0 Ratio E6S0 Hanya E4S0 Gallagher E6S0 Asta E6S0 Pela E6S0 Herta E6S0 Tingyun All my supports have atleast 161 speed with it averaging around 170+ no eagle set except on Pela and SW and I can swap the spare one over to serval and I only have S3 DDD. FF can still clear all endgames Full auto 0C, 40k, and under 300 AV and I can just swap HMC, Fugue or RM for Gallagher if they're needed for other teams. Since Robin is pretty much my only option for the 2nd Phase. Who do y'all think I should pull for in the first banner phase Herta, Fei, Maybe even lingsha? I could even go for E1 Fugue rn.
I have acheron e2s1 who does pretty good (i guess she only lacks a jiaoqiu in the team cos I lost the 50/50). I’m looking for a good second dps but I’m still indecisive if I should get herta or aglaea. I don’t have sunday but i do have robin and ruan mei. I think herta will be good because I have jade and fugue but they don’t have their signature lightcone so I’m not very sure right now…
I think herta is the correct choice for you. You could choose from RMC, RM, Pela as your supports and Serval or Jade as your second erudition Imo Only pull for aglaea if you have HH.
I have e1s1 Sunday, e0s1 Robin, e0s1 Huo huo, and e4s2 Himeko. What should i do, pick The Herta, or Aglaea?. I also have over 200 pulls. Happy new year.
Imo THerta is more f2p friendly, def the first choice for new players or those who struggle with PF But I'm pulling for Aglaea because I don't have a lightning hypercarry(does kafka count?)
Aglae has no good lightcones in this patch. So you have to pull her signature if you want her damage. Herta is more future relevant between them. If you are a new player and have Sunday, then pull Aglae, you will get more weapons next patch. Otherwise I don't recommend
10:18 at the risk of sounding like a massive firefly simp, I wouldn't really compare aglaea to firefly because the latter has the convenience of making every content weak to her own element while also being able to damage toughness bars of adjacent non-fire weakness enemies, making her incredibly versatile; meanwhile afaik, aglaea doesn't have that versatility. ofc summon will still be the next meta so aglaea might just be able to brute force non-lightning content with raw damage. that said, whenever hsr releases a limited remembrance dps with element implant and/or bypassing toughness bars of other elements(please be phainon), that character will be the summon meta firefly in my book.
They will never release another character like Firefly again, you see how they bricked Fugue ... then you understand why they will never make another character like Firefly ever again, she even works as Hyper/Break Hybrid is even more powerful then a full BREAK character. why she is so powerfull with killing stuff that she doesn't even trigger Super break. But but that isn't how it suppose to be played, sorry says who, you give me Relics and Lightcon to min max, by heck I will min Max something that gives Attack % 50% critical and Critical damage and 100 break, and use that after 1800 every 10 points is 0.8 Free Break cause both increase damage. but Superbreak doesn't benefit from Critical and critical damage, that is true, but before I get to Superbreak, I already doing RED damage on the bar past the toughness. then comes superbreak. if I hit sanctuary characters I can still kill them at the same speed of Acheron and Fei Xiao.
@@drakehound2244 if there's anything I learned in my decade-long gacha journey, its that powercreep is ever constant in gachas. in hsr 1.x there were plenty of wannabe experts claiming the current x and y characters will be "futureproof" yet here we are today and they're now outclassed by newer characters. with the exception of jing yuan who only seems to get stronger with new relics and supports because ofc space china general number 1. point is, it may or may not happen in 3.x, but sooner or later hoyo will release a future character in hsr that's even way more busted than firefly, you can count on that.
@@drakehound2244 "you see how they bricked Fugue" No, actually, I don't... considering how good she is I'm curious as to what in the world you mean by this.
@@drakehound2244 powercreep is ever constant in gachas. it may happen in 3.x or after, but sooner or later hoyo will release a character like and even more busted than firefly; you can count on that.
I honestly don’t know who to get I don’t have robin but i have Sunday and huohuo so i was thinking maybe i can skip both and just get robin but honestly im struggling with everything that’s not pure fiction i can’t even 3 star moc anymore lol
I will get The Herta because Aglaea is too highly specialized, she absolutely cannot play without Sunday, she is also the first character of the path of remembrance, which means that powercreep her is very easy, and literally any next DPS character of the same path will be able to do it
@nl7458 hp scaling support means nothing? Just that instead of build crit dmg or atk, you build hp... and iirc she has a nonscaling def shred and universal res pen on e0
@NS-ku1kf no specifically herta... stuff like Argentina and jade don't benefit too much from her, on the other hand the follow up after every ult. When they say aoe, they literally mean she attacks like an aoe character. Like robin concerto ult attack but against all enemies plus extra against elites
Im a f2p and I started the game 3 weeks ago and i was lucky to get both sunday and jing yuan and I paired the 2 together and formed my main team. I am saving pulls since then and im wondering do i go for the herta for my second team and get robin for my first or get robin and aglaea and remove jing yuan but he isnt that good without sunday so pairing him with bronya will make him weaker and he wont have robins support so what should i do? Im really new to the game, so if anyone could give me their opinion I would appreciate it!
Since you are new to the game, getting two teams ready for endgame content shoudl be your priority imo, if JY is working for you then you don't need another lightning dps that uses the same support, Herta should be a pretty good investment atm and she has great sinergy with characters that you get for free like small Herta and Serval
Your comment at the end doesn't really make sense. No one will synergies later on with Aglae cause she is a Hypercarry unit who is energy hungry, so she prefers Sunday and Huohuo, and have a higher chance of replacement. The Herta has a better chance of having a better synergies unit because she WANTS at least another Erudution unit for her buff. And since her mechanic is all about wanting other characters to hit as much target as possible, what if there's a potential future support that hits AOE attack that buffs Herta Attack even more?
Skipping bcs my account can survive through atleast two patches of end game(i hope) so I'll get Casto, the car girl and anaxa if he's the nihilty sub dps acheron team needed otherwise elysia expy and pahinon here i come
My thought is, I can't see hoyo making Aglaea, the very first remembrance dps, the best dps in her path for all that long honestly, vs Herta, so even if another better Erudition unit drops, guess what, Herta is gonna be part of that new team becuse of how her kit works. So for me ez pass on Aglaea between the 2. I agree that it is a good chance a new account will like Aglaea a lot, but also consider, 4* Herta is a free 6e unit, and people can pick Himeko from the pick a 5* even going right now, so get a defensive unit and bang, full AoE team made.
Gonna skip unfortunately, but still watching. Went all in on supportive roles for 2.X (Aventurine, Robin, Sunday, Fugue, and a belated RM), time to go all in for DPS in 3.X (Mydei, Phainon, (Anaxa if I can guarantee Phainon) and anyone else who catches my fancy after that, if I have the jades😅)
Imho Aglaea is bait. The Herta is rather flexible, you can make her work with both blast and aoe enemies, I wont be surprised to see Aglaea being placed in the standard banner by the end of 3.7.
Helpful reminder: there is a high chance that aglea might get powercrept by castorice in future( according to leaks) So the herta is objectively better choice according to meta
@@anirudhv5940 Herta will be relevant for longer though as she can also be a sub dps for future erudition units and will probably be the strongest Erudition unit for a few months and as far as we see the end game is currently aoe oriented.
![[V4] E0 S0 The Herta & E0 S0 Aglaea | F2P team Vs Memory of Chaos Stage 12 Showcase](/img/n.gif)
as someone who'll win the 500k jade lotto, I'll just get both of them e_e
hey you and me both considering my username
Some next level copium right here
Let's hope you win the lotto, and not the bot accts.
Lets be honest, that lotto is obviously rigged. Only relatives of producers might win that.
He will kill me if i win that 500k jades
Herta has a huge witch hat and is therefore the objectively correct choice.
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Also she is so beautiful
She is indeed so beautiful
I have a feeling that Aglaea is the “Dr Ratio” of Remembrance characters and there’s a “Feixiao”-type character for Remembrance just around the corner
Herta on the other hand is an Emanator character and our first limited Ice DPS since… Jingliu.
I don't agree that Aglaea is more F2P-friendly. Aglaea's damage falls off quite a bit if she doesn't have enough energy from outside sources to keep her in her enhanced state. New players may not have Sunday, Huohuo, or even Tingyun. RMC is a nice buff for Aglaea, but they can also be used with The Herta, alongside the free mini Herta everyone gets. Along with ice being a rarer element and The Herta doing well in all game modes, not just Pure Fiction, I feel a lot more comfortable recommending The Herta to a new player over Aglaea.
The herta sucks in MOC or Apocalyptic Shadow. Watch view vids and Look at her damage against single Targets in MOC or Apocalyptic Shadow. Aglaea, Tingyun, RMC and a sustain of your choice is easy to build.
@@mcutv959Herta definitely does not suck. Yes, she doesn’t do exceptionally in single target scenarios, but she still does a lot of damage if they have 42 stacks. Also, nowadays there isn’t a ton of battles where there is only one enemy, most bosses have minions and MOC is getting more and more enemies per wave as well.
@Asfwgutxi idk which moc youre playing but If you fight svarog and one more enemy. You wont be able to Stack Up to 42 😅 it takes to much time. Herta will make pure fiction easy af. Because the stacks will be transfered to the next Wave and Stack Up that way. But MOC she sucks. She Deals in MOC against Bosses Just as much DMG as jingliu lmao. As i Said, watch TH-cam vids with a f2p Team 🤷
@Asfwgutxi the only erudition character which is decent in single target Fights is rappa. She Deals enough DMG with superbreak. The other erudition characters are Made for pure fiction, it is how it is.
@mcutv959 yeah all this whining about stack gen for 2 target scenarios makes zero sense, you'll have serval acting 5 times in the first 2 cycles + 5 ults with qpq gal, and it only goes uphill from there, herta with a batt is very competent in moc
I argue its the complete opposite of what you said. Herta is much more f2p friendly, while Aglaea wants really specific units to shine. Herta can use any erudition unit, including herta puppet which is completely free, and even serval as one of the better options since she ults so fast (shocking, i know) and literally any premium harmony works with her kit. Aglaea on the other hand really, really depends on Sunday right now, cause she is super dependant on her ult and not getting full ult enhanced state uptime is a major, major con as her summon dies alongside most of the stacks of speed, which also boosts her damage. Afaik, no teams currently can make her ult have 100% uptime without Sunday. She also really wants Huohuo as a sustain, so thats another specific unit on the mix.
She actually CAN get by without sunday but need huohuo+RTB+robin, which is not saying much tbh. Her E1 also makes her less reliant on sunday
I agree. At the moment from what I have seen, Aglaea is pretty much going to be in the same situation as Firefly when she released with a limited team for her to shine and maybe even depending more on other 5 star limited characters.
So if I have Sunday and Robin but no Huohuo should I pull The Herta or Aglaea instead?
@Pitinoseishin Depends on what you need or like. Maybe its better to wait a bit after 3.0 to know more info on future characters and the enemies you will encounter to make a better decision. I'm on the verge on skipping everything on 3.0 unless I enjoy the characters in the test run.
Ok, at this point, dorsnt fast/often refer to pretty much every other team? Break, FUA, hypercarry, DOT, all want to go as fast as possible. The only exception would be counter. I think we can remove fast/often as one of the team archetypes, no?
I’m with you on that. All my teams are fast and often cause I love speed😂
Maybe they mean a team like Unlimited Bladeworks
I mean herta + batt is considered what archtype? Cause that's a slow team
Yeah the only char that really fit "fast/often" is aglaeae and FF imo, bcs they have giga spd buff... Beside, many dps want go high spd too like dot mainly 160+, other team comps just want a 134/135 spd imo just for -1 spd 100% AA thingy or to take 2nd turn on 1st cycle.
FUA and summon is by nature double the action than any other damage types tho.
Personally I'm getting more wary of self contained kits with DPS. Think about DHIL and Jingliu they were both very powerful when they were released but fell off relatively quickly.
Outside of action advance characters (which we have 5 of already being Bronya, Sparkle, Robin, Sunday and RMC) what type of Characters would interact well with Aglaea? I suppose Energy and Speed buffers but we have Tingyun, Huo Huo, Sunday, Asta, and Hanya for that (plus E2 Bronya).
I just don't see a lot of new synergies being created for Aglaea in the future. It wouldn't be a hard as with DHIL or Jingliu so Hoyo did learn their lesson there but I feel like it isn't happening anytime soon.
Meanwhile Herta potentially can work with any new Erudition or AoE character that comes out. Her mechanic depends on other characters to be effective. It certainly makes her a safer option since her synergies have an easier condition.
Sad to say since I was excited for Aglaea but the more I look into her she's just not a good fit for my account.
Plus Aglaea's another lightning dps. We are swimming in them still imo. Like if people did pull Sunday for the summon meta they most likely have Jing Yuan so getting another lightning dps feels redundant.
People who aren't investing in Summon meta might have Acheron or Kafka teams. Acheron is still perfectly usable so far and I can't see it changing that drastically instantly imo. Kafka and DoT are starting to fall behind a bit, but that could always change in the future with another DoT support.
in the future theres gonna be more remembrance support, remembrance path is not tied to just dps as you can see with remembrance mc being a support, also non remembrance unit can buff memosprite as you can see in the livestream huo huo can target aglaea's memosprite, and whos to say they will not release a premium true damage buffer in the future, simillar to fugue being a premium version of harmony mc, also note aglaea get doomposted as much as the other underdog units (rappa, yunli, jade, bh, jiao, topaz) but yet these units perform very well in the meta right now, something to consider
@@FaizFS3 Castorice is right around the corner she's easily going to powercreep aglaea.
@@rin9005 you dont even know what she does
We see her with a dragon looking summon behind her in the trailer, people have been abandoning Aglaea since that.
Herta can be buffed by new supports or erudition units, Aglaea is 100% being powercrept by a new remembrance unit
and so does every other dps in hsr
This is a non-statement bc Kafka exists, we thought that she would be future proof given how she is completely generic and can improve with future support, but got abandoned at the beginning of 2.0 after BS came out, and even then she was just ok given how Acheron powercrept everything in the game.
Aglaea on the other hand is closer to FF, she is a new gameplay style that isn't a niche, and we know that we aren't getting a new rememberance unit for 2 more patches thx to leaks, if any support comes out that helps rememberance units, you just take out Robin or your sustain and make Aglaea immensely stronger immediately.
Both are equally viable bc they both will work for at least 2-3 patches before you need to replace them or pull a dedicated support, there isn't a "future proof" choice here
It's kinda different in a way that one actually benefits from getting new characters in their path while the other doesn't benefit whatsoever.
@@KingDarkness100 "I have not died yet, therefore, I might be immortal".
Jokes aside, we thought that JL and DHIL would not be powercrept as well when they were new since a unit that gained that many buffs and tuned themselves so much was to be an outlier, but we were wrong.
As enemies need to resist the insane amounts of damage that we already do, they increase their HP, and Hoyo wants to show that newer units are good to pull for, so they increase the damage gradually until that increase in HP is no longer relevant, this has happened every patch. Just as Acheron now is a cycle or 2 slower in MoC, in comes Aglaea and 0-cycles with relative ease, and there are no debuff units in sight.
The alternative comes from supports that fix mechanical flaws over older units, like Sparkle for DHIL and Sunday for JY, giving them a second wind, but that still implies that they were powercrept in some way previously.
FF will get powercrept either by newer units or newer enemies, and then she'll be replaced by a new unit that fixes her problems relative to the new meta.
That doesn't make sense. Aglaea can he buffed by Hoyo decides to make for her lol
Both are good, but i think emanator character would be had a place in long term. Maybe the peak of rememberance dps is castorice or phainon (potensial)
Phanion destruction
Algaea is gonna get crept in 3.2 with castorice just like swan got swept by Acheron
@Aemothkas What?? Acheron no creep Swan
@@Aemothkas Swan got the liberty of being the core members of Dotcheron, what do you mean?
@@Aemothkasblack swan get powercreep by acheron??? What??
That's like saying that feixiao get powercreep by fugue 😂
omg I've been waiting for this video so badly, thanks so much EOD!
Aglea will be powercrept.
There are 3 other Remembrance characters coming out in 3.0 with the last one being the strongest cuz Hoyo loves powercreep.
If you like Aglea, get her. But prepare to pull for her eidolons to keep her relevant on your account long-term (like with every other DPS).
The Herta, easily. Character power aside (though Herta is somewhat stronger), you can basically play her straight out of the box, and do well. I'm sure a lot of people already have the relics for her, both the Scholar set and planar set pieces if you were farming for Acheron. She also can run F2P LCs or gacha 4 Stars and do well. For Aglaea, you will need to farm up the new summon set, so it will take you a lot of time potentially to even be able to play her. But setting this aside, you will also need to pull a bunch on her LC banner to get at least a 4 Star Rememberance LC.
Another massive advantage The Herta has is her teambuilding. Almost entirely F2P. RMC and Smol Herta you get for free, and everyone will get them, even newbies. Smol Herta is one of the first characters you get.
Her best support is Robin, but RMC is very strong for her as well. She can also run with any Erudition character, Smol Herta or Himeko will be great for wave gamemodes and bosses (like the bananacademic something), for most other content you can run Jing Yuan, Serval, Argenti, etc. Jade will be strong too, but not many people have her I think. Qingque would be bad. She can also run most sustains, though Aventurine or Lingsha would be the best since they do a lot of area attacks. For example, for people who have them, using Jade to put Debt Collector on Lingsha results in a lot of stacks for The Herta.
Also, she wears a cute witch outfit with a huge hat, so 100 million points added to her score.
Aglaea has incredibly stringent teambuilding requirements, simply because we don't have many supports that archetype. So it will potentially be a long time before she reaches her full power level. Atm, she *needs* Sunday, and another good support. RMC is fine, but Robin is better. Sparkle and Bronya can't target summons, so no AA there. Only Sunday can do that, and only he can buff both the summoner and summon. So without Sunday, you're going to do much less damage.
Also, while not a must, Huohuo is her best sustain due to granting energy. Beyond that, it doesn't really matter, but you probably want Lingsha, since area heals can affect summons, but from what I know shields can't.
Then there's reason outside the game. As you mentioned, Herta is much more popular. She is beloved by fans, and her reveal made them go wild. She's going to be very powerful and future-proof, partly because her banner will bring in a ton of money. Aglaea seems more like a beta test for Rememberance DPSs, and while she will be a top tier DPS on release still, but she's probably not as future-proof as The Herta - I fear her case will be similar to Seele.
The Herta being future-proof comes mostly from being a similar place to Acheron, incredibly anticipated Emanator DPS, so while she might get weaker in like a year, she won't be any weaker than Acheron is now.
HOYO has been pretty consistent in making popular characters powerful, a rather simple yet effective business strategy. Aglaea is nowhere near as popular and anticipated as The Herta, so keep that in mind. It will also be a long time before they release a character like The Herta, while we will get another Rememberance character soon. They drip-marketed Tribbie and Mydei, so they will be in 3.1. But 3.2 or 3.3 at the latest will definitely bring another Rememberance DPS, most likely Castorice, who has an undead dragon.
I disagree about The Herta is not preferable to new player than Aglaea because new account can choose Himeko on the free 5* selector and receive free small Herta under the assumption you missed Sunday banner. Then they can pull Tribbie and/or Robin. Also, if they have Bronya on Departure warp, that's a good team already. Hypercarry The Herta and FUA team.
Not even that Herta's best battery is Passkey serval which is a 3 star LC btw and serval is literally free and if you don't have robin or RM pela doesn't fall that far from them since she could also generate stacks for The Herta. Gallagher is also her 2nd or 3rd best sustain option.
You can literally run The Herta, Serval, Pela, Gallagher. Afaik pela and serval are both free. Gallagher or Pela can be swapped out after you obtain RMC.
💯 agreed
I see Serval being advised as a F2P option to be used for new players as a battery for The Herta, but realistically, you'd have to be a veteran player to build a battery serval right since a typical new player won't research to a level that they'd learn about using a 3 star light cone like Passkey, ERR rope and the wind set, with targeted proper SPD threshold. Yeah as a veteran player who frequents subreddits, its common to know of what to build a battery serval, but to a new player, its highly likely gonna be easy for them to build the right serval for The Herta. Not to mention the times they'd have to spend farming on the wind set caverns and planars
@@JoxTheMash29you have a lot of self modeling resin when you're new.
There's no need to farm the wind set directly (serval only wants speed anyways so, no big problem).
Also, even if someone is new understand why serval is good is not complicated, she hits very often, so she is good, and the most she hits, the better is herta, that's all.
This makes me happy! I'm a new player and I really want The Herta... 😭😭
As a cautious day 1 player I think that it is always best to wait for more characters to be released when it comes to something new and fresh being introduced to the game. Remembrance is a new and fresh path so we can definitely expect many more characters to be released for this path in the coming patches. The question is how will Hoyoverse sell us new Remembrance characters if we already have Aglaea? I bet she would start to lose relevance with more Remembrance characters being introduced into the game over the course of this year. As a long time player who can already clear all content I would rather go for Herta who seems to be a better long term investment. Any new erudition character in the future has a potential to buff Herta due to her unique kit but most buffs to Aglaea would likely also buff future Remembrance characters too.
One thing I've noticed, is whenever HSR adds a new "mechanic" that they want to push, it kind of sucks at first, but eventually gets really good. I didn't get into the break meta because I missed a few key support units, like Ruan Mei, and without them break was terrible early on. Eventually it became very strong, but by then I was missing the framework to make the newer break units work, so I'm worried that skipping the "new hot thing" (summons?) might end up biting me in the ass if I skip now.
the answer is Mydei.
I'm skipping this patch. With my current team, I'm pretty sure I can clear any content in the game. I'd rather use my jades on characters such as castorice, cypher and cyrene. Not to mention, the upcoming collaboration of Fate/Stay Night is almost here as well.
Very wise! Can always catch them on the rerun if they end up meta defining
Ik castorice and Cyrene are promising,so they’d probably outdo aglaea…and idk abt the herta tho,since she’s an emanator
Im doing the same, maybe pull on some off the 6 reruns but Im skipping the new characters
after getting The herta and Castorice (still debatable) I will be saving up for Fate Collab
Pull what you like , even if you don't complete endgame what are you losing?80 jades ?
I see it like a new tech emerging in the market. Options are limited, how it's going to go down the road is rather unknown at this point. I'll just wait till 3.3 to see where summoners are heading. For now, Herta, followed by Lingsha are on my priority pull list.
Friendly reminder, we have seen teasers for the upcoming characters in 3.x but we have heard nothing more about the Fate collab yet, just putting it out there in case anyone plans to save just in case.
I think that will be on 3rd quarter of 2025 i think..
Yeah, there is plenty of time to accumulate jades for that
Thank god I'm not interested in Fate. Will safe my tickets during the collab^^
There's already leaks bout the fate characters
unless they’re the miyabi of hsr, i will not be pulling
As Sunday E1S1 keeper I kind a confused where to go
Same bro same 😅 but iam considering more towards aglaea ❤️
same but we have to hold strong for castrice😂
@sairam-786 with E1S1, Even Aglaea E0S1 will still hits hard.. But I kind a want to E2S1 an "3.0 Acheron" And Aglaea seems to be not it....
Still i want Fugue and Lingsha to play Himeko Break Meta
Yet Herta E0S1 is already Stronger and Pass my E2S1 DanIL damage with Ease.
I only has around 350 to 400 pulls counted until 3.0 last final day..
See what I mean ?
if you got sunday then absolutely go for aglaea
@@ZenRegaliayou never need eidolon to begin with, having best in slot support is more preferable
Yo!
I've been playing the game from launch and I got huohuo, sunday and I'll be getting rmc.
I main acheron (with jq, pela, galla) and have a premium dot team (dot is dogshit rn I know but kafka). I also have jl, king yuan(him with sunday feels decent with all the pf buffs but ik he's not that good) and topaz. Should I go for a follow up based setup with the next reruns for fei and robin or should i focus on summon meta?
If I do go for the summon meta, should I go for fate collab or should I just get castorice in 3.x? I'm assuming aglaea will be like 2.x beginning and we will be getting stronger units towards the middle of 3.x, mostly castorice.
Please help.
Go for summon meta for sure The Herta and Aglaea already better than Feixiao new characters will at least be on par with those two. If you are going for Castorice that is a bit far away now I would get Robin since you can use her with Jingyuan, Acheron or DOT. Robin would prop Jingyuan up a lot for sure.
Long term investment, if The Herta can trivialize pure fiction making it easier to 40k one side consistently, you can then focus on the other game modes.
Looking at the current state of the 2.0 units (BS and Sparkle) makes me worry about the future of both of the 3.0 units. Especially bcs both are DPS.
Hopefully hp inflation won't be too crazy in 3.x I pulled pretty much every team in 2.x and have vertically invested into Acheron, Robin and Jiaoqiu. I clear MOC in 2 cycles currently , 80k every pure fiction this time with 2 cycles leftover and 7300+ Apocalyptic Shadow. It would be insane powercreep if I go from this to not clearing at all within a few patches. I will wait for Tribbie and Castorice for now.
yeah, the power of eidolon is needed to keep the dps relevant. My E0 S1 Acheron can no longer clear MoC 12 and Apoc. I now use E0 S1 Feixiao and E1 S1 Rappa to full clear those areas. How many eidolons does your Acheron have?
@@boiledliddo Its E1S1 Acheron, E0S1 Jiaoqiu and E1S0 Robin thats all the vertical investment on my account. I have E0S0 Feixiao, Firefly, Jingliu and Black Swan(All E0S0) as well.
I would say there may be something wrong with your Acheron build she can still clear MOC and Apoc easily without Jiaoqiu right now E1 is just crit rate
do you have a video of your Acheron clearing MOC 12? I'm interested to see. And what amount are her crit rate and crit damage?
i need ice dps and erudition imo work well with each other, you can just mix and match them and synergize well.
Hve to skip the whole patch, still here for another EOD vid
I like big hats so I may try to get Herta, but I should probably save for the next units like Mydei or Castorice
I don't pull for meta, just my favorites, but I think The Herta is probably a safer pick at this point due to existing synergies she can have due to easy conditions (other erudition units) and some flexibility in non-PF content with they way her kit works. Aglaea is also the first in her path (along with RMC) and support/synergies with her will depend on whatever future characters they release bar Sunday, who was released before her and suits her perfectly. Some archetypes have been clearly favored more than others (FUA/Break has been dominant) while other characters who are best at other niches neglected (DoT (Kafka/Black Swan), HP-drainers (Blade/Jingliu), SP-heavy (Dan Heng IL, Sparkle). Time will tell if Aglaea will fall into the first or latter category but given how Remembrance is going to be a shiny new path she's probably going to remain relevant for at least the entirety of 3.0.
The Herta for the long term. More future Remembrance DPS units will come and there will be competition. On the other hand, an emenator unit will likely stay relevant on the meta. But not only that, The Herta's technique to let you see nearby treasures is a HUGE selling point. It's just as, if not more handy than Acheron's auto-kill technique.
It's a cool and handy detail that I think should be accounted for despite being a minor function.
I'm hoping and praying Aglaea is viable without Sunday, but I will likely skip until I know if I will be able to make her work. Definitely getting Herta and her LC though!
If I get The Herta early I’m pulling for Jade too 🙂↕️
I think for my account peronsally, I have 3 lighting units already for different purposes. Acheron(debuff/hypercarry), Kafka(DoT), and Jing Yuan(Summon, eventually when I get Sunday) so skipping Aglaea is a no brainer since I don't want another lightning unit. I'll wait for a remeberance unit of a different element to drop and they'll fullfill my rememberance dps. I skipped Jiangliu a lot for another Ice DPS so The Herta is my go to, plus I have a lot of erudition that need fine tuning so I can clean them up for the Herta.
I will be saving for the next Remembrance dps like Castorice
Question for anyone who can help:
I currently run Rappa, Fugue, Harmony MC and Gallagher as my first team. Acheron, Pela, Sunday and Aventurine as my second team.
Should I pull for Feixiao and Robin to build a FUA team or go for Herta/Aglea?
Seeing how u already have 2 solid dps, i think that feixiao have a lower value for ur account. If i were u i would prob just pull robin & her e1. I am a feixiao main and im pulling for robin e1 in the upcoming banner
Honestly I'd grab Lingsha for your Rappa team then either grab Robin or wait to see if Jaioqiu is rerunning in 3.1 (we'll know before Robin's banner is over).
The most reasonable pull would be Robin. If you can, try to get her E1.
Im gonna go against the waves here and say no to pulling Robin. Even though shes is broken as she is, no teams you have currently wants Robin, Acheron is more than fine with Sunday (assuming Acheron is E2) and she does not function in break. The next meta is going to be HP based characters, so Robin doesnt go there either as she buffs mainly ATK. By the time another meta arrives that could potentially want her, they will just sell a new harmony thats better than robin, since they want money, or at least they will rerun Robin again for the 19th time.
@@czsgenesisi was thinking the same, im in the same situation (but with FF instead of rappa) and everyone is saying that i should get robin but she doesnt fit in any of my teams, and i have to pull for jiaoqiu and ruan mei still, plus i dont think she will be BIS for rememberance since we'll have 3 supports launched (RMC, sunday and tribbie) so i'll prob skip her and get the herta, might regret latter tho
skip aglaea and wait another remembrance char
Saved 70k Jades. Will still pull both.
I played this game 1 year and only have 3 Star chracters so what do i wrong ?
Wanted Aglaea more but was worried about the likelihood of immediate powercreep again.
Also still don't have Lingsha/Aventurine/whomever might help with the current situation.
Me looking at this video, knowing that I'm going for herta no matter what 👁️👁️
im here still scrapping every possible jades for Fugue. Spent 120+ pulls with her nowhere in sight 😢. i think im on 50 ish pity rn with guaranted
edit: MOC resets and i finally got her, f"ck hoyo it was on 79 pity. I think it was at least 140 pull. No more sh1ts for the Herta 😭, couldve had more if i didnt pull for sunday sigLC, but it was too good to skip
Damn are you me? Same 😭
Regarding remembrance, considering we're definitely getting remembrance March7 down the line, being our beloved poster girl, she'll be the Firefly of 3.X.
If you compare to 2.0, Black Swan has her niche and Sparkle aged the way of Bronya since Robin exists.
Here I am watching another video about which character I should pick when I’ve already completely made my decision.
Its a tough choice because i want them both but it was kind of sealed by me investing into e1s1 sunday so ill take aglaea and skip herta. Im also forced to go for aglaea light cone as most people might not have realised you wont have any cone to equip as its a new path which means 75-150 + 65 pulls :(
Should i have any excess above 220 pulls ill try for herta, maybe ill get lucky but we dont know if she functions well at e0 and no cone. Im not sure if herta is on the 1st half on the banner, if so that sucks too coz i cant get aglaea and then drop the leftovers. Also pulling herta may mean needing to get tribbie the next patch which could be impossible.
Delusional hope is i get both in 75 pulls and a cone for aglaea, well see!
I was gonna pull for Aglaea but I might wait for her rerun since Castorice has a dragon (which could be a summon).
Will pick herta because I don't have anymore useful ice character. Jingliu is cool but I hate to bring healer so she won't kill the team or hoping my adventurine shield didn't break while the team hp already low thank to her causing that.
I want to pull aglaea so bad I have the perfect team but it seems like there’s no good reason to pull her (I also want Castorice, they’re the only characters I want from 2.X)
my question with big chungus Herta is if ANY erudition will be good with her or if only synergistic erudution like Jade or any upcoming will be
She's just like Acheron. All Nihility characters can work with her but only Jiaoqiu and Pela can really bring her to full potential. For The Herta, small Herta and Jade are the top 2 picks. But your question is honestly a non-issue given that small Herta is free for everyone and has the same element as big Herta, so there is no reason to even question synergy issues.
@@orangenoob2768 cool, thanks :) I think now my concern is being inclined to pull for erudition units that bring big Herta's full potential
Ill pull for Aglaea for my eos1 Sunday. Im sure after, we have enough time to farm for Castorice who i plan to pull until then. Maybe Tribbie as well
Ive wanted Jade since she came out but i had to skip her, i really need help with the Pure Fiction game mode and i like the ten stoneheart characters to begin with. Seeing Hertas design i fell in love with her too so im going to pull both Jade and The Herta. I also want their lightcones but i only have enough jades to get on of theirs... Which lightcone is more value for their character?
Herta Lightcon is so GOOD if they didn't nerfed it to 140 energy requirement. (what a farce they learned from people pulling Sunday Lightcon for Bronya) I would have said that was a MUST HAVE for any erudition character, so Herta Lightcon for Herta is a not a waste of money cause of the 1 Skill Point Refund after Ultimate. (herta Ultimate action advance to another turn for her enhanced skill attack, so incase you don't want to be SP negative)
Hear Me Out: as an unofficial Emanator of Erudition
Rappa Herta Tribbie RuanMei
No sustain team, insane synergy (combining aoe, break, freeze, delay from both Imaginary and Quantum break)
Yea
I need to know the kit of Tribbie to be sure, but there’s this Curio that increase break efficiency (or something that has to do with Increase dmg to broken enemies) of only Ice and Imaginary
So this is the thing that popped off my mind the moment EODG reminds me that Rappa is in fact - an erudition character
Rappa is mostly SP neutral
The Herta is SP hungry
RuanMei is flexible (but if possible, skill to guarantee Def shred + Res shred full uptime is better)
Tribbie only needs to be SP Positve to Flexible to fit in this team
and she might be able to do smth like that Curio where your Quantum Break can be stacked up to 99 times, which is enable by bunch of AoE attacks from Rappa, THerta and Tribbie herself?
So excited to try out or see someone try out this team (i cant possibly get both THerta and Tribbie in back to back versions)
Of course, the answer is, definitely robin
imo Herta has a better long term staying power. she is easier to use and doesnt require specialized supports.
Jade might be her best sub DPS for the current unit pool, but most players receive Serval, puppet Herta and able to pick Himeko from the selector. (sorry QQ, but you're a Destruction unit pretending to be Erudition)
not only that, future Erudition units will be an indirect buff to Herta since she requires one as a teammate.
7:30 I wonder if Argenti will be good teammate for Herta too
probably
If the powercreep goes on I just skip both and pull characters much later in the banners. That way it is better in the long run.
ayo guys my rappa fugue e1 hmc and THE Herta in one (considering everyone will prolly be ice weak) team? am i cooking? super duper break herta +rappa team with double delay
The herta have very cool technique, I think, for the older player like me, it sounds really exciting, it's a quality of life on acheron level
Yea that was the main motivation for most people to pull Herta. Until they revealed that EVERYONE will be given treasure compasses to locate treasure chests. Which makes Herta's technique absolutely redundant
@orangenoob2768 I am not sure, we have to see how does it work in reality. I have a feeling that it will be much more annoying
@@mizushirokanon9174 Dude, the reality is that most players up till now find the majority of chests on their own. The annoying part is when they miss out one or two chests that they just can't find. Let's assume you are right that somehow the free treasure compasses are unreasonably and excruciatingly difficult and annoying to use (which is very unlikely but ok). The compasses are STILL a QOL improvement that is efficient enough to find the last few chests and doesn't come at the cost of jades. Just accept that Herta's technique is redundant at this point.
I can't decide whether to go for The Herta or Feixiao. Aglea does not attract me as much. Still saving to wish for Fugue right now.
Man. The pain.
I have Dr. Ratio, Topaz, Robin, Aventurine, and Himeko, Herta, Serval (somewhat built), QQ, Jing Yuan.
Currently lack Wind Dps.
(sub-)Dps owned: Clara, Jungliu, Firefly, Acheron, Dr. Ratio, Himeko, Herta, QQ, JY, Dan Heng (half built), Sushang (almost complete), March Hunt, Topaz
Have some trouble with PF, AS (~10 stars); MOC is fine (35-36 stars).
Skipping Algeia for The Herta bc I have Acheron e2 s1, and General Jing Yuan and Sunday. When a diff element comes out with remembrance then I'll grab him/her
Remove fast often please! It’s a redundant group that’s not needed.
i stopped playing the game because i couldnt keep up with powercreep but still watch your videos
Hoyo never feels bad about powercreeping X.0 / X.1 characters. Aglaea likely due to element won't be as good as saving for remembrance quantum 3.2 char...
Gonna get The herta bc i need someone like her on my team and love the design. But gotta, GOTTA, save for the Fate collab!
Fine for the last time, if you pulled Fugue cause of the Lingsha disaster... you already have one piece of a TEAM pull Lingsha if you lack DPS/Sustain/Debuffer/Auto Cleanse and a summon that she can action forward. Lingsha as DPS comes higher then any sub dps and with Fugue she will be able to ignore toughness like a real dpser her bunny too.
If you skipped Fugue cause you pulled Sunday, you are lucky he isn't that bad cause you had to pull E0S1 to make him SP neutral. so it is a bummer cause you missed the real MUST pull Fugue. then go for the HERTA, unless you love Aglaea (always remember if you love a character PICK it even if it is not meta you will make it work by slaving it out) then in that case Pull Aglaea E1S0 (the E1 is needed to regain her energy.. without energy Aglaea cannot reuse her ultimate is a worthless DPSER) pull Robin if do not have Sunday.. and much better then Sunday cause Robin Action advance whole party including summons by 100% and gives better buffs then Sunday. you can only use Aglaea E0S0 if you have sunday and houhou .. or else like Acheron E0S0 you are thinking what a crappy DPS.
Unless they changed her Eidolons her E1 has nothing to do with energy and you'd need E2.
How can you say Emanators don't get crept when you need E2 Acheron to compete with Fexiao or Break teams (not emanators)
I'm getting Herta cuz i want my 2nd EZ PF team. But honestly i say skip any character on the begining 3.0 patch there will be better Rememberance later on & Herta can rerun/ powercreep down the line
Is Berta not her own meta? Like ape meta
1:28 No that not true at all, since both of them use robin which is the core of the FUA team. Aglaea team also use Lingsha which is from break team while The Herta is likely gonna use either Aventurine or Lingsha since they are the only choice of healer/tanker. Which made both of them overlap with both break and FUA team even tho they present as the new team.
Aglea without huohuo might be cancer , she has a 350 cost ultimate
Aglaea prefers HH due to her large energy cost.
Herta prefers lingsha or Gallagher due to how her kit works she could also use HH.
@@froggotech8283how did you guys know her energy pool when no creator share the information the creator server yet? If it not base on creator server it can change anytime.
Semi newer players, got in around when feixiao was out, got lucky and got her full team, Robin, topaz, adventurine.
Play on and off so I'm basically still new, pulling aglea going forward, gonna try running her with sunday, either R Mc or topaz, and probably Gallagher or lingsha when she comes back
If you're gonna do that you're better off with The Herta Aglaea needs HH because of her 300 energy cost, Sunday can be just replaced with RMC. The Herta's best battery is literally passkey serval a 3 star lc and a 4 star character, she can use Pela instead of rm or robin to help with stack generation and her BiS sustain is either lingsha or Gallagher.
The herta is by far the most f2p friendly and beginner friendly meta relevant 5 star dps.
@@KingDarkness100 That all 4 star team can 0 cycle both halves of the 3.0 MoC at only 1 cost. It will be even better if you have 5 star counterparts whereas Aglaea will already have competition 1 patch after her release be powercrept in 2 patches after her release. Aglaea's best supports are the best supports in the game anyone with HH, Sunday and Robin will perform well. "Ain't gonna clear shit like teams with true limited characters" It is already better than RRAT, DoT, SB and Acheron.
Skipping both for Lingsha and Castorice pog
I need some pulling options I already have fei's BiS relics at 84/188 without supports or any LC, but I don't have robin yet(No eagle march nor eagle bronya cuz eagle set hates me).
As for The Herta I already have an eagle set energy slave serval and pela, the only thing I need left is rememberance MC for 0-cycles.
The characters that I have Built are:
E2S1 FF
HMC
E1S1 RM
E0S0 Fugue
E0S1 Seele (top1% on seeleland btw but she's powercrept as shit alr esp without robin and E2 sparkle)
E0S1 Dhil (same case as seele)
E3S0 Himeko
E1S2 Gepard
E0S0 HH
E0S0 Blade(why did I even pull for this fodder)
E2S0 Bronya
E0S1 Sparkle (Unusable without 171 speed Eagle+ S5 DDD and I don't have both)
E1S0 SW
E0S0 Ratio
E6S0 Hanya
E4S0 Gallagher
E6S0 Asta
E6S0 Pela
E6S0 Herta
E6S0 Tingyun
All my supports have atleast 161 speed with it averaging around 170+ no eagle set except on Pela and SW and I can swap the spare one over to serval and I only have S3 DDD. FF can still clear all endgames Full auto 0C, 40k, and under 300 AV and I can just swap HMC, Fugue or RM for Gallagher if they're needed for other teams.
Since Robin is pretty much my only option for the 2nd Phase. Who do y'all think I should pull for in the first banner phase Herta, Fei, Maybe even lingsha? I could even go for E1 Fugue rn.
Skipping both. Saving for Castorice and then saving for Fate Collab. Easy banners.
Going all-in on Silver Wolf, baby. 😎
I have acheron e2s1 who does pretty good (i guess she only lacks a jiaoqiu in the team cos I lost the 50/50). I’m looking for a good second dps but I’m still indecisive if I should get herta or aglaea. I don’t have sunday but i do have robin and ruan mei. I think herta will be good because I have jade and fugue but they don’t have their signature lightcone so I’m not very sure right now…
I think herta is the correct choice for you. You could choose from RMC, RM, Pela as your supports and Serval or Jade as your second erudition
Imo Only pull for aglaea if you have HH.
So im gonna try to get The Herta, then try Lingsha, if i have any jades left will try for Jade. 🤞🤞
Just an fyi the herta only needs 1 other erudition character max to get the full benefit of her kit, shes extremely f2p friendly (unlike aglaea)
I have e1s1 Sunday, e0s1 Robin, e0s1 Huo huo, and e4s2 Himeko. What should i do, pick The Herta, or Aglaea?. I also have over 200 pulls. Happy new year.
E1S1 Sunday, no brainer choice just go Aglaea
@Laveriee That's a good choice I believe, I have her team. Should I go for Robin e1s1?.
@@taxiarchismaximidis1 if $$$ is not a problem, E1S1 Robin is such a great investment in the long term for your account!!
Imo THerta is more f2p friendly, def the first choice for new players or those who struggle with PF
But I'm pulling for Aglaea because I don't have a lightning hypercarry(does kafka count?)
The funny thing is jingyuan is an erudition char but he doesnt work well with the herta.
Magical witch Herta for me. lol
don't like Aglaea character design, it feels too simple.
Aglae has no good lightcones in this patch. So you have to pull her signature if you want her damage. Herta is more future relevant between them. If you are a new player and have Sunday, then pull Aglae, you will get more weapons next patch. Otherwise I don't recommend
10:18 at the risk of sounding like a massive firefly simp, I wouldn't really compare aglaea to firefly because the latter has the convenience of making every content weak to her own element while also being able to damage toughness bars of adjacent non-fire weakness enemies, making her incredibly versatile; meanwhile afaik, aglaea doesn't have that versatility. ofc summon will still be the next meta so aglaea might just be able to brute force non-lightning content with raw damage.
that said, whenever hsr releases a limited remembrance dps with element implant and/or bypassing toughness bars of other elements(please be phainon), that character will be the summon meta firefly in my book.
They will never release another character like Firefly again, you see how they bricked Fugue ... then you understand why they will never make another character like Firefly ever again, she even works as Hyper/Break Hybrid is even more powerful then a full BREAK character. why she is so powerfull with killing stuff that she doesn't even trigger Super break.
But but that isn't how it suppose to be played, sorry says who, you give me Relics and Lightcon to min max, by heck I will min Max something that gives Attack % 50% critical and Critical damage and 100 break, and use that after 1800 every 10 points is 0.8 Free Break cause both increase damage. but Superbreak doesn't benefit from Critical and critical damage, that is true, but before I get to Superbreak, I already doing RED damage on the bar past the toughness. then comes superbreak. if I hit sanctuary characters I can still kill them at the same speed of Acheron and Fei Xiao.
@@drakehound2244 if there's anything I learned in my decade-long gacha journey, its that powercreep is ever constant in gachas. in hsr 1.x there were plenty of wannabe experts claiming the current x and y characters will be "futureproof" yet here we are today and they're now outclassed by newer characters. with the exception of jing yuan who only seems to get stronger with new relics and supports because ofc space china general number 1.
point is, it may or may not happen in 3.x, but sooner or later hoyo will release a future character in hsr that's even way more busted than firefly, you can count on that.
@@drakehound2244 "you see how they bricked Fugue"
No, actually, I don't... considering how good she is I'm curious as to what in the world you mean by this.
@@drakehound2244 powercreep is ever constant in gachas. it may happen in 3.x or after, but sooner or later hoyo will release a character like and even more busted than firefly; you can count on that.
And the answer is ... Robin! jk, or maybe not kidding
I genuinely don't know if I wanna focus on the new banners or the reruns. I want Aglaea as my Lightning DPS, but I don't have Sunday......
HH is more impactful for aglaea than sunday you could also just sub in RMC instead of Sunday.
Aglaea, HH, RMC/Sunday/Tribbie, Robin/Pela/RM.
I honestly don’t know who to get I don’t have robin but i have Sunday and huohuo so i was thinking maybe i can skip both and just get robin but honestly im struggling with everything that’s not pure fiction i can’t even 3 star moc anymore lol
I will get The Herta because Aglaea is too highly specialized, she absolutely cannot play without Sunday, she is also the first character of the path of remembrance, which means that powercreep her is very easy, and literally any next DPS character of the same path will be able to do it
It is hard to choose them when Robin and Lingsha are both available. Furthermore, a new Harmony unit (Tribbie) might shake the meta for 3.X patches.
or arguably she might not be shaking anything if they make it a hp scaling support
@nl7458 hp scaling support means nothing? Just that instead of build crit dmg or atk, you build hp... and iirc she has a nonscaling def shred and universal res pen on e0
She is an AOE support, so basically Herta Support and any other AOE characters that are coming.
@NS-ku1kf no specifically herta... stuff like Argentina and jade don't benefit too much from her, on the other hand the follow up after every ult. When they say aoe, they literally mean she attacks like an aoe character. Like robin concerto ult attack but against all enemies plus extra against elites
@CoconutOrNot_ thank you for the better explanation!
Im a f2p and I started the game 3 weeks ago and i was lucky to get both sunday and jing yuan and I paired the 2 together and formed my main team. I am saving pulls since then and im wondering do i go for the herta for my second team and get robin for my first or get robin and aglaea and remove jing yuan but he isnt that good without sunday so pairing him with bronya will make him weaker and he wont have robins support so what should i do? Im really new to the game, so if anyone could give me their opinion I would appreciate it!
Since you are new to the game, getting two teams ready for endgame content shoudl be your priority imo, if JY is working for you then you don't need another lightning dps that uses the same support, Herta should be a pretty good investment atm and she has great sinergy with characters that you get for free like small Herta and Serval
Skip Aglae cause as a new player, you want to expand by pulling a dps with a different element.
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My new toy syndrome and Sunday s1 has been crying for me to pull Aglaea
exactly me with jade for a few months so hertha takes the win
Saaaaame
Your comment at the end doesn't really make sense. No one will synergies later on with Aglae cause she is a Hypercarry unit who is energy hungry, so she prefers Sunday and Huohuo, and have a higher chance of replacement. The Herta has a better chance of having a better synergies unit because she WANTS at least another Erudution unit for her buff. And since her mechanic is all about wanting other characters to hit as much target as possible, what if there's a potential future support that hits AOE attack that buffs Herta Attack even more?
Its a hard choice for me with jade e1s1 and sunday e1s1. I want to do herta, rmc, jade, and fu xuan for crit since i never use her lol.
As someone that is struggling in pf i am going to pick the herta
Skipping bcs my account can survive through atleast two patches of end game(i hope) so I'll get Casto, the car girl and anaxa if he's the nihilty sub dps acheron team needed otherwise elysia expy and pahinon here i come
My thought is, I can't see hoyo making Aglaea, the very first remembrance dps, the best dps in her path for all that long honestly, vs Herta, so even if another better Erudition unit drops, guess what, Herta is gonna be part of that new team becuse of how her kit works. So for me ez pass on Aglaea between the 2.
I agree that it is a good chance a new account will like Aglaea a lot, but also consider, 4* Herta is a free 6e unit, and people can pick Himeko from the pick a 5* even going right now, so get a defensive unit and bang, full AoE team made.
I strongly believe that The Herta is gonna address ppl's bias against erudition.
Gonna skip unfortunately, but still watching.
Went all in on supportive roles for 2.X (Aventurine, Robin, Sunday, Fugue, and a belated RM),
time to go all in for DPS in 3.X (Mydei, Phainon, (Anaxa if I can guarantee Phainon) and anyone else who catches my fancy after that, if I have the jades😅)
Imho Aglaea is bait. The Herta is rather flexible, you can make her work with both blast and aoe enemies, I wont be surprised to see Aglaea being placed in the standard banner by the end of 3.7.
THE Herta vs. THE Himeko series finale so the pick is obvious 😊
honestly i'm in shambles bc i am both eru and fua enthusiast : (((( might get big herta though as i dont have ice dps yet.
I’m building SuperBreak Herta to go with Rappa, Lingsha, and Fugue.
Helpful reminder: there is a high chance that aglea might get powercrept by castorice in future( according to leaks)
So the herta is objectively better choice according to meta
in that case herta is gonna get powercrept too though
unless you need help for pf this patch is skip in terms of meta
@@anirudhv5940 herta can allow for a dual dps playstyle from what i've seen, so maybe she'll be harder to powercreep ? we'll see
@@anirudhv5940 i wanted to say that it is kind of confirmed that aglea will be powercrept in 2 to 3 patches
every dps gets powercreep, if you dont want powercreep then dont pull dps at all
@@anirudhv5940 Herta will be relevant for longer though as she can also be a sub dps for future erudition units and will probably be the strongest Erudition unit for a few months and as far as we see the end game is currently aoe oriented.