I feel like having the middle tier called "Meh" was a mistake. The reasoning of "he's not meh!" kinda falls apart. If it was called Decent or So-So, you wouldnt feel like mid tier sounded like such an insult. If it was called that, you wouldn't have had a problem putting Akira Tozawa there, where he belongs.
I was thinking this watching their last Tier video. "Meh" is far too negative to be the tier below "Lovely Lovely Lovely." They need the intermediate tier to be "A Good Hand" or something like that--a solid, dependable performer who's not really got any steam at present.
All of these phrases sound like synonyms of "meh" to me. When something is so-so or just decent I would describe it as meh. Maybe they should have better defined meh
I love how Adam stated that AJ Styles was the total package before immediately running through the 3 criteria and concluding that he only really had 1 of the 3.
"She brings something to the table, I'm just not sure what." This statement should have been one of the tiers and roughly 90% of the roster, men and women, would be in this tier.
@@JimShapter Yeah thats fair, Ziggler is much better in ring as far as excitement goes. But their characters are kinda dead floating between baby face and heel no reason to really care anymore.
Basically_Run nattie can’t talk right she just talks and looks hella weird she doesnt have anything going for her other than being a good wrestler and being a Hart she’s trains half the females so id say she’s good in the ring the same as ziggler bc he was a male cheerleader so he didn’t go over because of his skills he’s just good at selling
Ziggler is great at selling. Natalya honestly just needs to expand her moveset or her agility or literally anything because at this point, she might as well just be renamed "sharpshooter" because that's pretty much all she's got
@@yeshello6453 Both of them should not be in the LLL since they have no character,charisma and mic skills.Tozawa should be just about bearable,since he is a jobber.Cedric has won a couple of matches,but he still a loser so he is meh at best
Seen these lists on the 'ol youtube for a while and never knew what they were like. But this video really helped me laugh in a time when stuff is flipping getting me down.
Rank everyone who has held a championship belt in 2019 apart from the 24/7 title cuz then we will Erik Kanter, Rob Stone, Mayer Kane loads of legends etc.
Randy Orton is always my favorite because he lives in my hometown and I’ve seen him at restaurants and at the gym and the dude is just massive in a way that tv can’t show it’s insane. And hell I’ve even washed his truck a few times at the car wash I work at
Shelton Benjamin is one of the most underrated wresleers of all time ! He Always put so amazing effort in matches his 2005 run was amazing yet ytill nothing compare to lots of underserving pushes for rest of the lockeroom.
There's more than one way to do a tier list in wrestling. There's tier a list based on booking hierarchy, and also a possible tier list based on one's own personal entertainment. Might be helpful to include this distinction in the description.
WWE have completely dropped the ball since she left NXT, She should have got a singles push as a babyface instead she's miscast as a heel. She's trying but it's just comming across as cute and funny rather than heelish she's too likeable, She's still awesome all the same I just hope they see sense and put her in the correct role.
I’m only about 25 minutes in but I’d be shocked if she was changed but in my honest opinion I’d put Charlotte in the top end of just about bearable or in meh. I’d be lying if I said Charlotte wasn’t solid in the ring but I genuinely think she’s quite overhyped altogether, I’ve never been able to get invested in her as a a character and that’s as a heel or a face and I find her promos (as both heel and face) annoying and they do nothing for me
This tier list matches up with my personal opinions the most compared to others - I'm definitely on board with most of it. Really the only thing that kind of bothers me about these are the inconsistencies. Are we rating them based on only RAW or are we not? Are we penalizing wrestlers for things that aren't their fault or not?
I feel like Adams Charlotte Flair thing is totally legit especially if you focus mainly on the western world but I do think if you were also watching say Stardom and seeing the likes of Kagetsu around this time you might say “western world” instead of “whole world” but that’s just my opinion. Adam argues his very well.
With Seth Rollins you forgot that he literally carried Raw during like half a year that Universal Championship just vanished into some southern ranch. Like him or hate him, he is the best.
Honestly i think Raw's midcard division is stacked, they kind of have a "SmackDown 6" thing with like McIntyre, Black, Murphy, Andrade, Ricochet, Joe. Also the best thing is all 6 of those could easily transition back and forth from midcard to main event.
Thinking Charlotte is the best wrestler in WWE is debatable I guess (I'd personally rate Io, Asuka, and Sasha above her). But she's definitely not the best wrestler in the WORLD.
How can they say “you can’t be EC3 in just about bearable because you know how good he is” when if they are going just off there raw careers like they have been, what they’ve done with EC3 screams get in the bin especially if Cedric is in the bin
"it's gonna be based on a vacuum of their raw career" goes on to make decisions based on pre-raw work and personal favorites. I mean just say you're ranking based on how you like them?
I really love cedrick.... I am very entertained when I watch him and I think his character is better then ricochet. He should have won the title from AJ on the season premiere but he can’t be get in the bin
Brock Lesnar belongs firmly in the Bin in my opinion. The man has been a glass ceiling holding back all the other wrestlers on the roster for years now. I've done the math and he's been champion 77% of the time since his win at Wrestlemania 33 something that has definitely restricted RAW's ability to build stars. The man's matches aren't even that good most of the time with more duds like his match with Cain than good matches with guys like Bryan. Putting him in the Best is completely ignoring the negative effect the man has had on the company.
Agreed, though Bin may be a bit too much. I'd put Lesnar firmly in Meh nearing Bearable- Lesnar does have positives, but the negatives outweigh those. Vince's hard-on for MMA guys wanting to wrestle has definitely hurt the company.
EC3 was called up too early. Feel free to correct me but I have not seen much of him in NXT. He started from competing for the first NA Championship match at Takeover w/ Ricochet, Adam Cole, VD, Etc. Then feuding with VD, Later I think he was turning completely Face if I am not mistaken. Then it all ended real quick after he got called up.
Unsure why they are a heel tag team. Especially why Asuka turned heel when only one person on the roster was apparently capable of defeating her. What was there for her to gain? What was her motivation? Oh wait, I know. "We don't know how to book you, so either do this or keep getting buried." So much for storytelling.
First of all, we need another Tier for "Go back to NXT" Aside from that, there is one thing i would do totally different, I'd put Brock in the bin, not because he is bad, just because he blocks one of the big belts for about 70% of the time. Just don't wanna see him for a few years. And the thing about Charlotte is...I really hate her as a Heel, which is good, but on the other side I also hate her as a face, thats kinda the only thing she can't do for me
Jinder is recovering from either surgery or an injury idk which but I read a statement from WWE a while back they were talking about trying to make sure he was good to come back before the rumble
I would only change one thing and that's putting both Asuka and Kairi in the best. Asuka is the better performer, yes, but they both have a role to play and they equally contribute to some great matches.
Charlotte Flair is one of the top 5 most boring wrestlers in the Women's division. There's nothing about her I havent' spent 30 years of watching her dad do already. I hate to say that but until they let her break out from his mold then I'm going to judge her along those lines.
I find it funny how they basically say say that being a great wrestler just Isn’t enough but then they have Styles in the best. That’s not a knock at styles and saying he shouldn’t be in the best but in reality he is just a great wrestler and not much else and according them (I kinda agree in a way) that isn’t enough
Smackdown is just as bad nowadays. Literally didnt even watch this weeks but heard that Drake Mavrick was spanked and Roman was showered in dog food.....
I would argue the only thing he has going for him is in ring ability when he cares. I just don't think he belongs in the business unless he's going to be all in. It's not a place for part-timers
I honestly think I prefer Vic Joseph on nxt uk, him and nigel mcguiness were just such a good commentary team and proved that 2 man commentary teams are the best
Dude, Orton and Ricochet deserve to be top tier. Ricochet brings such agility to the ring and Orton is probably the underused legend today with awesome mic skills.
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I feel like having the middle tier called "Meh" was a mistake. The reasoning of "he's not meh!" kinda falls apart. If it was called Decent or So-So, you wouldnt feel like mid tier sounded like such an insult. If it was called that, you wouldn't have had a problem putting Akira Tozawa there, where he belongs.
How about, "Alright"?
Tozawa is meh as fuck.
I was thinking this watching their last Tier video. "Meh" is far too negative to be the tier below "Lovely Lovely Lovely." They need the intermediate tier to be "A Good Hand" or something like that--a solid, dependable performer who's not really got any steam at present.
All of these phrases sound like synonyms of "meh" to me. When something is so-so or just decent I would describe it as meh. Maybe they should have better defined meh
Tozawa has been one of my favorite highlights
There should be a tier between lovely, lovely, lovely and meh
Alright
I came here to say that, agreed
That tier is called Adam Wilbourne
Or just call it differently than "meh". B-Tier isnt that bad usually
Called "Meh but tickles Ross' fancy."
I would put Vega in between Andrade and Aleister...it just makes sense
He he I see what you did
I'd watch that
Aleister Black vs Andrade at Wrestlemania for Zelina Vega
Andrew A with zelina on a fork lift
I love how Adam stated that AJ Styles was the total package before immediately running through the 3 criteria and concluding that he only really had 1 of the 3.
"She brings something to the table, I'm just not sure what." This statement should have been one of the tiers and roughly 90% of the roster, men and women, would be in this tier.
You guys are magicians, 3 guys you put in the bin were already out of the company before I end the video.. 😂
24:41 yes Ross , MJF did indeed go to curt Hawkins training school as did AEW's newest star Kris Statlander
Natalya is the women's division equivalent of Ziggler
Not having a go, but I disagree. I honestly think Nattie is not that good in the ring and Ziggler is just so, so good.
@@JimShapter Yeah thats fair, Ziggler is much better in ring as far as excitement goes. But their characters are kinda dead floating between baby face and heel no reason to really care anymore.
@@dpstyles95 agree with that 1000%
Basically_Run nattie can’t talk right she just talks and looks hella weird she doesnt have anything going for her other than being a good wrestler and being a Hart she’s trains half the females so id say she’s good in the ring the same as ziggler bc he was a male cheerleader so he didn’t go over because of his skills he’s just good at selling
Ziggler is great at selling. Natalya honestly just needs to expand her moveset or her agility or literally anything because at this point, she might as well just be renamed "sharpshooter" because that's pretty much all she's got
You guys should change "Meh" for "Just Okay", sounds better
A.Z meh
isnt that exactly what meh means
Trey Williams nah, seems a bit more “just about bearable”
randy orton is the best. the fact he has been doing what he does since 2002 makes him the best in all of wrestling
"Montez."
"The best."
"No."
this made me laugh more than expected
Samantha Micallef he is very charismatic but he’s definitely not in the same league as aj styles
npsoloman oh I agree with his place in the tiers 100%. Just wasn’t expecting the abruptness of this conversation 😂
I genuinely love these so much, keep it up Cultaholic
“Nobody wants a calm down shirt”
Meanwhile Naito just sits in his pool of merch money
Tranquilo is cool though. As is naito
Didn’t even watch yet, but glad I can sit here and enjoy almost two hours of new content of my 2 favorite Cultaholic mates
Kevin Owens and Samoa Joe are the absolute best talents in ALL of the "main roster". Period.
I wish I was like Gary TH-cam
I find it odd Ross put Tozawa in Lovely, Lovely, Lovely despite him having the same problems that landed Cedric in the bin.
Random Rob Agreed, actually I think Cedric stands out more, it’s just crazy to me.
@@jamisonlamkin5576 I think Tozawa has a certain charisma to him that makes him more likeable than Cedric personally
He could be nakamura, just smaller
Agree wholeheartedly with Ross about Dark Fruits from the tap. It's like drinking from the Gods!
Why did it start alphabetically and then become... not that way?
Welcome to Cultaholic. All I gotta say.
How DARE you put Cedric Alexander in the goddamned BIN.
SOMEONE CALL SAM
Aaron Isleman swap Akira and Cedric, the in ring talent Cedric has makes Toazawa look fine at best
@@yeshello6453 Both of them should not be in the LLL since they have no character,charisma and mic skills.Tozawa should be just about bearable,since he is a jobber.Cedric has won a couple of matches,but he still a loser so he is meh at best
Akira is more fun to watch than Cedric in my opinion.
I don’t feel anything when he’s out tho. Just like with Apollo. I actually prefer to watch Titus O’Neil over any of those 2 . At least he’s funny.
I nearly unsubscribed for you not putting No Way Jose in the top of The Best tier. That man should have ALL of the titles. Even the women’s titles
Seen these lists on the 'ol youtube for a while and never knew what they were like. But this video really helped me laugh in a time when stuff is flipping getting me down.
Rank everyone who has held a championship belt in 2019 apart from the 24/7 title cuz then we will Erik Kanter, Rob Stone, Mayer Kane loads of legends etc.
Ian Thompson basketball player. I am not gonna really pretend like I properly know who he is. He is probably very big in basket ball though.
Randy Orton is always my favorite because he lives in my hometown and I’ve seen him at restaurants and at the gym and the dude is just massive in a way that tv can’t show it’s insane. And hell I’ve even washed his truck a few times at the car wash I work at
you guys seemed pretty harsh on Angelo Dawkins 😂
Daniel Hurst They’ve been doing this for awhile now it’s kinda insane 😤😂
I don't think they are harsh enough.
That man is a anchor on the neck of Montez Ford
Yeah the hate is kinda crazy 😅
I think they are since he obviously weighs down Montez Ford so much
But we know where Aleister's room is, it's under the entrance stage.
Absolutely love these roster tier videos. Great format. Just love to see the debates.
Cant wait for the next one.
So curt Hawkins can be in meh but Cedric is in the bin....wow
Yea I'm still pissed that Cedric is in the bin...
Shelton Benjamin is one of the most underrated wresleers of all time !
He Always put so amazing effort in matches his 2005 run was amazing yet ytill nothing compare to lots of underserving pushes for rest of the lockeroom.
Harper, Sin Cara and the ascension have just been released from WWE
Kinda funny they’re buddied up in the bin!
There's more than one way to do a tier list in wrestling.
There's tier a list based on booking hierarchy, and also a possible tier list based on one's own personal entertainment.
Might be helpful to include this distinction in the description.
Can you guys do classic rosters like 1998 RAW, 2004 RAW or 2005 TNA Rosters?
Seeing Kairi Sane not in the best makes my heart cry and break
WWE have completely dropped the ball since she left NXT, She should have got a singles push as a babyface instead she's miscast as a heel. She's trying but it's just comming across as cute and funny rather than heelish she's too likeable, She's still awesome all the same I just hope they see sense and put her in the correct role.
Konnor is not that bad and wasn’t that bad even when he was a singles star between Cameron and Viktor in NXT!
Had fully forgot The Ascension exists. I just finished watching this and went to Facebook and saw they’ve just been released 😂
How can you say EY is the same as EC3 but put them in different tiers? 🤯
I’m only about 25 minutes in but I’d be shocked if she was changed but in my honest opinion I’d put Charlotte in the top end of just about bearable or in meh. I’d be lying if I said Charlotte wasn’t solid in the ring but I genuinely think she’s quite overhyped altogether, I’ve never been able to get invested in her as a a character and that’s as a heel or a face and I find her promos (as both heel and face) annoying and they do nothing for me
This just makes me think Ross and Adam are secretly in WWE Creative.
Glad to hear a shout out to Hooch on a cultaholic video. Two of my favourite things.
Natayla in the same category as no way Jose and the accession is ridiculous 😂
This tier list matches up with my personal opinions the most compared to others - I'm definitely on board with most of it.
Really the only thing that kind of bothers me about these are the inconsistencies. Are we rating them based on only RAW or are we not? Are we penalizing wrestlers for things that aren't their fault or not?
you said Meh for AOP, but put them in LLL.
was just about to say that myself
kept watching...i stand corrected lol.
@@stuswood i'm still watching haha guessing they remember their mistake, unlike Jack, who forgot about keith =]
Heart speaking instead of the mind
I feel like Adams Charlotte Flair thing is totally legit especially if you focus mainly on the western world but I do think if you were also watching say Stardom and seeing the likes of Kagetsu around this time you might say “western world” instead of “whole world” but that’s just my opinion. Adam argues his very well.
You put the Ascension in the Bin, today the Ascension have gotten released. Happy Birthday!
Do a WWE hall of fame tier rating!
It's just dawned on me who Pacitti reminds me of with his voice, laugh and mannerisms: comedian Mark Watson.
Just asking, could we see one of these with New Japan. Especially with Sam cause he seems to be the biggest fan
& jack
@@codystokes4770 Yeah though ig only can do it since it's Ross' series
Only one can do it
@@jacekkaplon200 It would have to be Sam and Jack. Ross doesn't watch NJPW.
@@tomtalks23 Oh, in that case I can't see them doing the video tbf though jack and sam would be good
I'd love to see a tier list for the NXT wrestlers who have been moved to the main roster based on their NXT careers.
Might be time to update this
Great video, you guys absolutely kill me.
Glad you see the IIconics' potential
With Seth Rollins you forgot that he literally carried Raw during like half a year that Universal Championship just vanished into some southern ranch. Like him or hate him, he is the best.
I would love these series to continue.The roaters are over but you guys could rank all the wwe champions or something
I think Meh should be the second bottom tier and something like Decent would be better for the middle tier
Putting Natalya in the bin and Nia in bearable is a sin
This series is great because it clearly shows the pitfalls of monopolizing talent. Such a good roster that's sooo underutilized.
Honestly i think Raw's midcard division is stacked, they kind of have a "SmackDown 6" thing with like McIntyre, Black, Murphy, Andrade, Ricochet, Joe.
Also the best thing is all 6 of those could easily transition back and forth from midcard to main event.
Nia above natalya
John cena: *ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT*
Nia anywhere above "Get in the bin" more like
Raw Roster in alphabetical order.
Asuka discussion starts at 1:22:00.
Can we have a WTF moments upload for the tier list series?
Thinking Charlotte is the best wrestler in WWE is debatable I guess (I'd personally rate Io, Asuka, and Sasha above her). But she's definitely not the best wrestler in the WORLD.
Tier list for WWE HOFers?
The appreciation for the iiconics, I'm here for it!!! I just wish WWE/Vince saw this and pushed them like they deserve.
Did I miss the tier list for SD, NXT and AEW? Liked this discussion.
How can they say “you can’t be EC3 in just about bearable because you know how good he is” when if they are going just off there raw careers like they have been, what they’ve done with EC3 screams get in the bin especially if Cedric is in the bin
"it's gonna be based on a vacuum of their raw career"
goes on to make decisions based on pre-raw work and personal favorites.
I mean just say you're ranking based on how you like them?
*Jinder Mahal is injured (I think he’s done his knee or shoulder) but he’ll be back in January*
I thought cedric was rich Swann for a second
Angelo Dawkins is so underrated I find him rly fun to watch
Please do a roster tier list for the current roster of impact wrestling
In terms if what anyone has done on Raw I'd argue no one belongs in the best
Cedric was fantastic on 205, but... yeah, that's all I got. He's got no character.
This is the most solid tier list yet. By far.....
I really love cedrick.... I am very entertained when I watch him and I think his character is better then ricochet. He should have won the title from AJ on the season premiere but he can’t be get in the bin
Brock Lesnar belongs firmly in the Bin in my opinion. The man has been a glass ceiling holding back all the other wrestlers on the roster for years now. I've done the math and he's been champion 77% of the time since his win at Wrestlemania 33 something that has definitely restricted RAW's ability to build stars. The man's matches aren't even that good most of the time with more duds like his match with Cain than good matches with guys like Bryan. Putting him in the Best is completely ignoring the negative effect the man has had on the company.
Agreed, though Bin may be a bit too much. I'd put Lesnar firmly in Meh nearing Bearable- Lesnar does have positives, but the negatives outweigh those. Vince's hard-on for MMA guys wanting to wrestle has definitely hurt the company.
EC3 was called up too early. Feel free to correct me but I have not seen much of him in NXT. He started from competing for the first NA Championship match at Takeover w/ Ricochet, Adam Cole, VD, Etc. Then feuding with VD, Later I think he was turning completely Face if I am not mistaken. Then it all ended real quick after he got called up.
If you put NATALYA in the bin and put NIA FUCKING JAX anywhere else, I SWEAR TO THE HIGHER POWER
Nice to see people helping the algorithm by telling each other their personal opinions are wrong haha
You guys should do the same concept but how vince McMahon sees all of the superstars
I think you guys were just a little harsh on Cedric Alexander I mean he’s had great matches with Drew McIntyre I would’ve put him in (meh)
For me Kairi's in the best. Think she's so entertaining to watch and her and Asuka are one of the few good things about Raw Imo.
Unsure why they are a heel tag team.
Especially why Asuka turned heel when only one person on the roster was apparently capable of defeating her.
What was there for her to gain? What was her motivation?
Oh wait, I know. "We don't know how to book you, so either do this or keep getting buried." So much for storytelling.
First of all, we need another Tier for "Go back to NXT"
Aside from that, there is one thing i would do totally different, I'd put Brock in the bin, not because he is bad, just because he blocks one of the big belts for about 70% of the time. Just don't wanna see him for a few years.
And the thing about Charlotte is...I really hate her as a Heel, which is good, but on the other side I also hate her as a face, thats kinda the only thing she can't do for me
Just a note: as of the date that this went out, Sin Cara and Luke Harper have been granted their release from WWE.
Jinder is recovering from either surgery or an injury idk which but I read a statement from WWE a while back they were talking about trying to make sure he was good to come back before the rumble
The intro is amazing!
I would only change one thing and that's putting both Asuka and Kairi in the best. Asuka is the better performer, yes, but they both have a role to play and they equally contribute to some great matches.
Charlotte Flair is one of the top 5 most boring wrestlers in the Women's division. There's nothing about her I havent' spent 30 years of watching her dad do already. I hate to say that but until they let her break out from his mold then I'm going to judge her along those lines.
What do y’all have against Angelo?
These guys are more trying to be nice to the wrestlers and justifying their booking than being objective.
Yea, I prefer the other lists, at least they held to the "This is in a vaccuum rule"
That's just Adam's personality, also he knows quite a few of theses guys watch the channel.
I find it funny how they basically say say that being a great wrestler just Isn’t enough but then they have Styles in the best. That’s not a knock at styles and saying he shouldn’t be in the best but in reality he is just a great wrestler and not much else and according them (I kinda agree in a way) that isn’t enough
Me as Raw GM, Stone Cold Steve Austin assistant manager & Commissoner Goldberg.
Do wrestling promotions next.
Anythings better than actually WATCHING RAW these days! 👀
Smackdown is just as bad nowadays. Literally didnt even watch this weeks but heard that Drake Mavrick was spanked and Roman was showered in dog food.....
1:25:12 Brock is a bit of a weird one for me. When he cares he really is the best, but when he does not he can get in the bin.
I would argue the only thing he has going for him is in ring ability when he cares. I just don't think he belongs in the business unless he's going to be all in. It's not a place for part-timers
The weird loud king is back, my life just got better!
I'm pissed that Natalya is in the bin but the foreshadowing of The Ascension being in the bin overshadows that
Everything Ross said about Natalya can be applied to Charlotte but Natalya is in the bin and Charlotte is in the best....
Do 205 Live and previous rosters (e.g. SD 2001, Raw 1984)
I honestly think I prefer Vic Joseph on nxt uk, him and nigel mcguiness were just such a good commentary team and proved that 2 man commentary teams are the best
Surely Andrade has been lovely, lovely, lovelier on RAW / Main than Black.
What is that thing they used
Ross and Sam need to rank (what’s left of) the 205 live roster.
Dude, Orton and Ricochet deserve to be top tier. Ricochet brings such agility to the ring and Orton is probably the underused legend today with awesome mic skills.
Ricochet is worst than 2015 Roman Reigns on the mic