I would imagine that it’s for one of two reasons. 1) the game was coded in such a way that you were not meant to get a 20 win streak and the death was included as a fail safe. 2) the developers included the death to encourage the player to do something other than sit there and gamble all day.
Back in the day cheat codes were usually just used to test and debug the game while it was being developed. Once they became somewhat mainstream knowledge they became sort of silly with giant heads and low gravity. Nowadays it's hard to find new games with cheat codes.
Developers/Game allows the AI to cheat to gain an unfair advantage. Player uses cheats because AI cheated first. Developers/Game punishes the player for cheating despite the fact that the game cheated first. Whoever decided this as okay needs to be beaten with a metal pipe.
Nah, but quick saving and restoring too many times will cause some guards to spawn that will try to lead you to a secluded area where they will beat you to low health and take all the money on your person, oh and then your banned from the casino. Same thing happens if you win enough times legitimately too.
Simple, it's bait for the trap, to see if you know the cheat if you will use it. Some developers are aware people will cheat and abhore it since it takes away from there creation. So instead of just not implementing cheats cheat devices exist they implement cheats as bait for players while games that offer you legit cheats and punish you for old cheats is pretty much punishing you for not doing your research to see what the new cheats are.
I liked the Stanley parable serious ending. Crazy how it begins with a cheat code and ends up in a dark room with an omnipresent man talking about tables and how he looked at thousands of them. Lol.
Why Why? Why do people keep considering Donkey Kong 64 to have anti cheating measures... The game.. Or any game can and will break if u save with cheats on, and that's not a anti cheat measure lol. And this has been proven by data miners. And if this is the case, then why isn't GTA SA on this list when leaving cheats on then saving can break a save file?
@@TheBigMan0706 certain cheats will cause the path finding script to break if you save the game with cheats still active, hence to what I said, certain cheats will corrupt saves. I've played GTA SA with multiple cheats and never had this issue, and thats cuz I don't save till I turn off cheats.
@@Fatacemcafee That actually would still be dangerous as the one that causes the Madd Dogg bug doesn't care if the cheat was turned off. If you use the Pedestrian Chaos cheat, it messes with the code so that Madd Dogg's script breaks and isn't turned back on so he walks off regardless. Which ties in to why most likely DK64 breaks like it does. If you don't know they shipped it with the expansion pak cause there was a memory leak that cause the game to crash after a few minutes without it. So given that it was so jank to require hardware, honestly not surprised a gameshark doesn't play well with it.
@@NEEDbacon Oh yeah, the chaos cheat is one of the cheats you don't wanna use and save after regardless cuz it perm locks certain AI, which breaks Madd Dogg lol.
Donkey Kong 64 is one of those games that is a heavy reminder that using cheat codes whilst using a data save and restore feature can have unintended results. Also, that thing with Banjo-Kazooie, it actually doesn't delete the save contents, only the save header, it's a fake delete since that type of thing is difficult to program while the game is actively running the data on the save files. Without the header, the save files are unusable, but restoring the header will make them usable once more. This deletion/corruption of save files by removing/changing the save header is mitigatable, but a chore to do nonetheless. Oh, I should mention that one can use no clipping in Ken Silverman's game, to get out of that trap. However, you have to clip through walls before being boxed in since no clipping doesn't apply to objects in that particular engine. You also still have to manage to get to the end of the level because the game will try to box you in after using no clip. However, if you do manage to make it through, the check resets, and it'll be like nothing ever happened. Save scumming is kinda dumb, but I don't blame people who feel that they need to figure things out and that's the method that works best for them. You know, to each their own, but implementing a save count and flag timer to discourage it, that's just one hundred percent, a dick move. Period. 'quicken' as a cheat code? Yeah, it's a stab at the old and dated accounting software and formerly software company by the same name. Nowadays, they're a shady-as-fuck bank and loan company, greedy and avaricious as the rest of them fuckers. They can sit and spin. On a *_pike_* for all I care.
One of my favourite cheat codes is in Revenge Of The Sith for PS2 and Xbox. There is a code that, if you input it in the 'Codes' section in the settings menu, turns every lightsaber in the game enormous for no reason. You don’t wanna know how weird General Grievous with all his arms out looks with it turned on.
I feel like they could have just implemented a system that makes it so that completing your first run of the game unlocks the cheat codes (Then again that might probably be harder to code)
I think Frogger 2 did something like that! I remember if I won the game I could go back and turn on a setting that lets you eat almost everything that's a danger to you. It was like a cheat code you could enable and disable. Super fun.
ima be honest here, why punish players for cheating in a singleplayer game they payed for? i mean they paid for the game and can play it however they choose to
@@seanfeld- but once they release it to market and you buy it technically you own that copy of the game and can therefore do what you want in said game
Aside from licensing agreements, I’m guessing you guys have never heard of a prank? Tbh if you’re malding over not being able to use cheat codes in some mediocre at best games, then that’s concerning
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Mr. Skittles that’s the same argument as ‘iTs A pRiVaTe cOmPaNy’.
@@soberthoughts209 i have never played a single one of these games i was just saying thats kinda stupid they punish the player for doing crap in a game they bought
Player : Oop this level is too hard for me i just want to relax and play the game so cheating isn't that bad.(for single player) Dev : NAH! We want YOU to play the way we want you to play so taste our EGO dum dum!
Imo the games that mess with game function when you activate a code should return to normal if you deactivate it. I've never done any of these, but it sounds super frustrating :(
@snoopy dubnation Yeah but turning the cheat back off is literally "quitting cheating and playing how it's meant to be" except the game is still broken unless you delete that save? lmao
@snoopy dubnation nah I still cheat when things are frustrating or unfair. Like said up there, it's a game. What does it matter if people have their own way of beating a game? Unless you call speedrunning cheating too lol
There's absolutely no reason a single player game should ever punish you for putting in cheats or hacking the game it's your game and your ruined experience
Makes sense that they'll intentionally put codes in and then screw you for using them... am I missing something?? 🙄 Aren't codes to supplement the fact that the devs didn't balance the difficulty properly for all player levels?
Well technically cheat codes are sometimes made for map,gameplay,ect testing by the developers. Like if they wanna skip to a sertant section of a map by using no clip or god mode to make it easier or they'll use a getall cheat to test weapons and items, but some cheats are put in intentionally for players to use and have fun such as the cheats in most gta games. Just depends on the devs
@@icetea9092 indeed =P but still using cheats is where the fun starts but the challenges off... why punish a cheater which is trying to get some fun ? that's sad in my point of view... Panzer Dragoon Zwei did it right... do a 100% game clear and you unlock the pandra box( cheat codes) but the box is incomplete and you can only complete the box doing story again without using pandra box and thats the way cheats should be ... want to have fun enable cheats but if you want to play for real, disable them all =P Completing the game with pandra's box with "cheats" to make the game even worse doesnt count towards completition anyway =P
They don't give a fuck apparently, it's a damn shame . Wonder how they would react when they releases a game riddled with bugs and glitches and people still buys their broken product and no punishment falls over them...hmm 🤦♂️
@@KuraudoSutoraifu7 video games are entertainment and their are a lot of game genre's it is unlikely to be good at a lot of different genre's also you don't have to be good to be a gamer you just have to play a lot of video games
.>. I see that you used somebody else's comment and just made the devs say an angry emoji instead of "STOP. YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!" good job. (Not really.)
debug map and Debug codes Found on the debug map that cheaters need to find debug codes for developers to simulate the debug map because of debug codes in the debug maps that are used by debug codes
Tiny Tank for the PlayStation had a level where your turret and the enemy's turret are exchanged, so you're controlling your body with the enemy's turret on it, and your turret on the enemy's body. If you've used the invincibility cheat, you can no longer damage the enemy. And if you use the invincibility code up to this level and then save so you can reset the console to turn it off, your save file is corrupted.
This is like only letting the player only play for 2 hours a day, like when I buy a game I expect to be able to play it however I want and do whatever I want with it, but when I get punished for cheating it's almost like being scammed. I get it for online play, but for single play I didn't spend 20$ just to follow it's every rule and be punished for breaking them.
I like how the last one doesn't directly call you out on cheating, just removes your valuable source of income. Seems like a pretty good way to encourage players to be more careful with their exploitation without bible-thumping for being bad people
Digital Devil Saga: if you try to cheese the secret boss in a way that clearly shows you read a guide beforehand (minmaxing and equipping specifically to counter him) they actually detect it and instakill you in sheer disgust.
I'd say the most infamous example is Gradius III. As many of you might know, despite the fact that the Konami Code was popularized by Contra, it originally debuted in Gradius I, where it would give you all power-ups at once. Naturally, people would try to do the same thing in Gradius III, except that in this game, the Konami Code just causes ol' Vic Viper to explode.
Back in the day if you pirated Serious Sam, it would be the full game but there would be a giant immortal scorpion that would never stop hunting you down throughout the whole game
In Link's Awakening on both the Game Boy (Regular, Color and Advance) and the Switch, periodically you have to go to the shop at Mabe Village to purchase items that you need to continue your quest. You can either buy them or try to steal them from the shop. If you try to walk out without paying the shopkeeper will tell you to put it back. However if you run circles around the shopkeeper and make him look the other way you can get away scot free or so you think. You soon find out that everyone is calling you "THIEF" for the rest of the game and the game itself will call you out with this quote: "Guess what? You got it for free. Are you proud of yourself?". If you should at any point return to the shop for the bow you just shoplifted, you will find nothing but an enraged shopkeeper that will instantly kill you, also on the switch version this will really screw up your save file.
Ok. For all you ppl asking "why punish people for cheating in SP game". Gotta remember for the time frame most of these games came out, *multiplayer just didnt exist*. Like, it just wasnt a concept. There was couch co-op, and LAN, and the rare game that could handle direct modem link where you could play with one friend. Usually laggy and buggy as hell, too. 99% of games were SP. Multiplayer didnt exist, so there was no SP/MP distinction. And the answer as to why, its funny as hell. Basically the devs trolling you, or you could troll your friends getting them to put the codes in. Also, what EEH failed to mention, is back then it was really common for sequel games to have odd reactions when you put in the previous games cheat codes. But they also had their own cheat codes that actually worked.
I remember I did the cheats in BK and I took bottles warning seriously.. Even as a kid I was like, "With how mean and deceiving this game can be.... I believe they will do it."
Here is one that I don't think people know about. In the video game sword of Vermilion, equipping a cursed sword will lower your attack every time you remove it. However, if you do this enough times, your attack power Skyrockets. This allows you went to pretty much Breeze through the entire game, killing everything including bosses in 1 hit. There is just one problem... ... the final boss becomes unbeatable. His second form gains unlimited health if you have enacted this cheat. This could be one of the worst cases of punishing You for Cheating because other games give you a warning and oftentimes will punish you Midway through the game, but this one waits till the very last fight to punish you. If you want to see the games ending, you have to go through the entire game and defeat everything in your path fair and square. Now, I do not know for certain if this is a problem in the original game, since I encountered this in the Sega Genesis classics compilation for modern consoles. Still, it's interesting to know.
i instantly recognized the ruins music from undertale, haven't heard it in a while but its so recognizable and it made me happy and remember some good times i've had. i rarely hear UT song in vids now so its always good to hear the music again.
Punished for using cheats; Online multiplayer - Makes sense Games with achievements - I get it Single Player games with no achievements - Uh no, you have the rights to that option Local multiplayer games - Arguably, you should have the option to cheats with this too if both players have access to them that is
You're not entitled to play it how you want. If the Dev wants to give you that option than ok but if not you are gonna play it the way it was intended to be if you want to play it.
Devs judge you for cheating in a singleplayer that's understandable, but what's not is that some of them are not doing anything about cheating in multiplayer. For an example: In MW2's map Fuel there's a rock that you can get inside which is unfair because no one will be able to kill you but you can. You know what would be nice? Is that if the devs decided to update the game and set a death zone inside that rock as a message to those cheating scums to play fair and stop cheating. Now I know that's an old game, but I'm pretty certain that there are some glitches that are considered cheating in recent games and their developers are not doing anything about.
Messing with a save file for cheating strikes me as overkill. For piracy, I understand (see Earthbound) but just for cheating? That's way too much. Players are just going to cheat; it just comes with the territory. Though, I suppose that's _one_ way to ensure that cheaters can't finish the game without doing it legitimately, I think there's better ways to handle it. I will admit though, stopping the player from save-scumming on RNG stuff is a good thing. I think that it should be more common to find than just a few examples.
In Banjo-Kazooie it only deletes one save file when you do what you did not all 3 and only the ones that alter the hub world will end up doing it for you.
On Enter the Matrix on PS2 if you had a bunch of cheats enabled you could play most of the game normally, however on the level where you start on an aeroplane you will spawn in with a thrown grenade that instantly explodes as soon as you gain control of the character. The only way to get past it is to disable the cheats, play the level normally "its a very difficult level" and then re-enable them afterwards.
I always laugh whenever you cheese in Fallout New Vegas by reloading a save if you loose money gambling and it makes you wait a full minute before you can play again. It says "the cardholder is shuffling the deck as an anti cheat measure"
The developer room and the anti-cheat room reminds me of some secret rooms in a game called Animal Jam, most notably Andrew's dungeon, Andrew's room of doom, and Test room.
I find it kinda funny that people are complaining about how Video games shouldn';t do this when it was a extremely common practice back then. Seriously, anti-cheat measures were honestly the least of the low blows back in those days. Also, in regards to most titles from sequels and stuff, I heavily doubt it's honestly a punishment but rather more of a trolling move on some parts.
I remember that if you tried to enter the "Enable cheats" code (gabbagabbahey) for Descent in a multiplayer game you would get knocked down to 1 health and energy and a message would appear on the other players screens telling them to go after you for an easy kill. I also seem to recall that entering that code in Descent 2 would kill you instantly.
Freezes are often unrelated to anti-cheat. Usually it's the person having written the cheat screwing up with something at some point. For example unlocking everything in Smash Bros. Brawl with a cheat, will cause it to hang in the PAL version, because the code that checks for unlocks tries to unlock things that don't exist.
People watching this seems to forgot minecraft has one too, by switching to creative your achievements will be removed from the save file (and maybe even clear all from your ms account)
I don't like that if you turn on "Keep Inventory" you can't get achievements. I get lost easily. I can't just go back to where I died and get my stuff. Also, I can never remember where my house is.
@@LadyOnikara that gamerule has been applied to most games including stardew, subnautica, gow etc and you can somehow retain the same items by start going for them, or how you had them in the first place. Because otherwise the game will be too easy
If you have never played Jade Empire and you see this, DO IT. easily the NUMBER 1 slept on game. should be awards and celebration all over for that master piece
Those save cheats reminded me of Fallout 4, because it appeared to me that if you quick save before doing a persuasion, pass and then somehow go back to the save, you'll constantly fail the persuasion
Some nice ones in there James. I liked the exploding gambler at the end ha ha! Hope you have a great Christmas mate! Enjoy! (I thought you might include the old classic SimCity in this list. If you did the money cheat 3 times it caused an earthquake lol)
Valkyrie profile 2 is actually one of my favourite ps2 games and I didn't know the game could punish you for cheating. It's a good thing I played and beaten that game plain jane vanilla style.
I get the feeling that its not a punishment so much as the cheats causing stack overflows or otherwise modifying data that shouldn't be messed with causing a number of gamestates that just crash out.
Did I not tell you how many tables I looked through? I'm going to be conservative and say it was somewhere in the tens of thousands of tables, any reasonable person would say I spent an ABSURD amount of time doing nothing but looking at tables. And I genuinely considered each one too! I took a hell of a lot of notes! I keep the notes in a different room, that rooms is less serious than this one. It's more of a... notes room.
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Wow I didn't think anybody else knew about hexen and heretic I had both of those games on PC when I was a kid I haven't met anybody in real life who's ever played them
Me and my friends were huge fans of those games, Wolfenstein, Quake, Doom, Hexen, Heretic and basically if it was a first person shooter we played it :D
@@TheEasterEggHunter I had the original Wolfenstein and the original doom on floppy disk I had hexen and heretic on a CD rom but I've never played quake
In gta san andreas the health code repairs your car fully. This would make it so when your car got damaged you could repair your car without the pay n spray. The game however is aware of this. There are some missions where the car has a health meter and when it is depleted the car is destroyed promptly ending the mission. One would think to use the health code but the game devs were ready. Activating the cheat in one of these missions will cause the vehicle to instantly explode as opposed to replenishing the cars health.
If a player is struggling so much or so unhappy with your singplayer game that they need to cheat, maybe don't punish them or stop them from doing it. I thought the point of game creating was for people to play them, not have everything deleted and make them hate your game.
1:54 If I was a game dev and they managed to beat 8 of the final boss at once, i'd just let them have the fucking cheats. They've obviously proven the game doesn't challenge them Any way.
Does Final Fantasy VIII for PS1 have an anti-cheat system, as well? I started a new game on my PSP with cwcheat codes activated, and while I was playing, the game bugged out a bit, but it was playable until I made it to the first dream part; before Laguna and Co. are supposed to appear on the battle screen, the game froze. Sometimes, Squall appears out of place in an area in Balamb Garden or a town. I got fed up with those bugs, so I used a save editor to give my characters max stats and party max items, instead, and I didn't run into the bugs, anymore.
You might’ve missed a few games. The sims franchise had many different punishments. The one that I mainly remember is the DS sims where I’d you had put a cheat code in there, aliens would’ve gotten sent down and steal various things. Whenever my sisters did put in a cheat code I was always stressed and scared. That’s all bye.
Welcome to the game 2 has one too. If you try to cheat and neutralize one threat you will get teleported into the elevator down the hallway outside your apartment with no way to get out so you'll lose your run. Also the game's developer is outside the elevator clapping at you.
Do you guys heard of Racing Lagoon (PS1)? When you're playing with ePSXe and using cheat engine, the game will show some "disk tape change" and the game progress will reset to 0%.
Imagine getting a legitimate 20 win streak in Jade empire and watching that man explode for no reason.
i see that as an absolute win
Brandon Withnell yeah but you can not gamble anymore
Imagine losing a bet 20x in a row and suddenly exploring out of nowhere
I wonder what he speak after gambler was expolded
I would imagine that it’s for one of two reasons.
1) the game was coded in such a way that you were not meant to get a 20 win streak and the death was included as a fail safe.
2) the developers included the death to encourage the player to do something other than sit there and gamble all day.
Developers: put cheats into single player game.
Player: uses cheats
Developers: *STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!*
Back in the day cheat codes were usually just used to test and debug the game while it was being developed. Once they became somewhat mainstream knowledge they became sort of silly with giant heads and low gravity. Nowadays it's hard to find new games with cheat codes.
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@@user-ys4op3ux1p well in ratchet and clank you have to earn them cheats so the cheats are basicly awards for being good at the game
Developers/Game allows the AI to cheat to gain an unfair advantage.
Player uses cheats because AI cheated first.
Developers/Game punishes the player for cheating despite the fact that the game cheated first.
Whoever decided this as okay needs to be beaten with a metal pipe.
Pay the developers a fine or serve your sentence. Your save file is now forfit.
So if I go to Vegas and make a quick save after every win then restore when I lose, will the dealer randomly combust in front of me as well?
It'll also aggro everyone in a mile radius, fsr. Don't get why they let you do it but punish you for it.
Lol
Nah, but quick saving and restoring too many times will cause some guards to spawn that will try to lead you to a secluded area where they will beat you to low health and take all the money on your person, oh and then your banned from the casino.
Same thing happens if you win enough times legitimately too.
Yeah, happened to me the other day, it was horrifying
Punishing players for hacking or modding I can see, but why program cheats into a game and then punish people for using them?
To show Cheating is bad or some shit
Simple, it's bait for the trap, to see if you know the cheat if you will use it. Some developers are aware people will cheat and abhore it since it takes away from there creation. So instead of just not implementing cheats cheat devices exist they implement cheats as bait for players while games that offer you legit cheats and punish you for old cheats is pretty much punishing you for not doing your research to see what the new cheats are.
because some programmers like to troll
Right?
Because these game developers are scumbags
I would feel bad whoever won 20 times in a row without cheating in Jade empire
yea...
I think i might be one of them if i play the game
The Stanley Parable's very silly Serious Ending is my favourite of these kind of things. Sans' call is pretty good too, dogsong tops it off perfectly.
I think the broom closet ending is my favorite
@@LocalTorchwoodIntern I hope your friends find this concerning
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*heya kiddo.
@@LocalTorchwoodIntern I had to take over the computer for somebody who died getting the broom closet ending.
I liked the Stanley parable serious ending. Crazy how it begins with a cheat code and ends up in a dark room with an omnipresent man talking about tables and how he looked at thousands of them. Lol.
There is nothing wrong with cheating in single player games
It's only wrong when it's an online game
道神恵 what’s the point of buying a game for yourself if ur just gonna chest on it
@@opp_goblin because why not
道神恵 that’s what bungie believed
道神恵 Exactly!
True, I’m fine with mods and cheats as long as you’re not online or possibly hindering others
Why
Why?
Why do people keep considering Donkey Kong 64 to have anti cheating measures...
The game.. Or any game can and will break if u save with cheats on, and that's not a anti cheat measure lol. And this has been proven by data miners. And if this is the case, then why isn't GTA SA on this list when leaving cheats on then saving can break a save file?
madd dogg is impossible to save
Isn’t the anti cheat in San Andreas called the Mad Dog glitch?
@@TheBigMan0706 certain cheats will cause the path finding script to break if you save the game with cheats still active, hence to what I said, certain cheats will corrupt saves.
I've played GTA SA with multiple cheats and never had this issue, and thats cuz I don't save till I turn off cheats.
@@Fatacemcafee That actually would still be dangerous as the one that causes the Madd Dogg bug doesn't care if the cheat was turned off. If you use the Pedestrian Chaos cheat, it messes with the code so that Madd Dogg's script breaks and isn't turned back on so he walks off regardless.
Which ties in to why most likely DK64 breaks like it does. If you don't know they shipped it with the expansion pak cause there was a memory leak that cause the game to crash after a few minutes without it. So given that it was so jank to require hardware, honestly not surprised a gameshark doesn't play well with it.
@@NEEDbacon Oh yeah, the chaos cheat is one of the cheats you don't wanna use and save after regardless cuz it perm locks certain AI, which breaks Madd Dogg lol.
Donkey Kong 64 is one of those games that is a heavy reminder that using cheat codes whilst using a data save and restore feature can have unintended results. Also, that thing with Banjo-Kazooie, it actually doesn't delete the save contents, only the save header, it's a fake delete since that type of thing is difficult to program while the game is actively running the data on the save files. Without the header, the save files are unusable, but restoring the header will make them usable once more. This deletion/corruption of save files by removing/changing the save header is mitigatable, but a chore to do nonetheless.
Oh, I should mention that one can use no clipping in Ken Silverman's game, to get out of that trap. However, you have to clip through walls before being boxed in since no clipping doesn't apply to objects in that particular engine. You also still have to manage to get to the end of the level because the game will try to box you in after using no clip. However, if you do manage to make it through, the check resets, and it'll be like nothing ever happened.
Save scumming is kinda dumb, but I don't blame people who feel that they need to figure things out and that's the method that works best for them. You know, to each their own, but implementing a save count and flag timer to discourage it, that's just one hundred percent, a dick move. Period.
'quicken' as a cheat code? Yeah, it's a stab at the old and dated accounting software and formerly software company by the same name. Nowadays, they're a shady-as-fuck bank and loan company, greedy and avaricious as the rest of them fuckers. They can sit and spin. On a *_pike_* for all I care.
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Ah, Gay Baby Jail, we meet again.
One of my favourite cheat codes is in Revenge Of The Sith for PS2 and Xbox. There is a code that, if you input it in the 'Codes' section in the settings menu, turns every lightsaber in the game enormous for no reason. You don’t wanna know how weird General Grievous with all his arms out looks with it turned on.
XD ik this one
Why even include these codes?
I was thinking the same thing
Why not?
Is it only me, or is it impossible to got to this guys' youtube acc?
@@zuccerberd6364 same 😂 that's weird
ZuccerBERD yeah mate that’s the same as me😂never had that before
I feel like they could have just implemented a system that makes it so that completing your first run of the game unlocks the cheat codes
(Then again that might probably be harder to code)
Exactly! My bro only does it when he's completed a game, to get more fun/replayability out of it.
I think Frogger 2 did something like that! I remember if I won the game I could go back and turn on a setting that lets you eat almost everything that's a danger to you. It was like a cheat code you could enable and disable. Super fun.
No. It really wouldn't be hard to code at all to do something like that. It's just a matter of checking a game completion flag.
Yeah I remember those game that you need completing those thing.
@Biggus Dickus Tomb Raider Anniversary definitely did that.
ima be honest here, why punish players for cheating in a singleplayer game they payed for? i mean they paid for the game and can play it however they choose to
Devs game. Devs rules.
@@seanfeld- but once they release it to market and you buy it technically you own that copy of the game and can therefore do what you want in said game
Aside from licensing agreements, I’m guessing you guys have never heard of a prank? Tbh if you’re malding over not being able to use cheat codes in some mediocre at best games, then that’s concerning
Mr. Skittles that’s the same argument as ‘iTs A pRiVaTe cOmPaNy’.
@@soberthoughts209 i have never played a single one of these games i was just saying thats kinda stupid they punish the player for doing crap in a game they bought
"Rolling low and winning large! You called it well."
Famous last words
Player: Wow this part is hard, I'll just use a code...
Game: NO! DIE!
0:33 BOO!
LOL
y u do dis man ! haloween is over !
Player : Oop this level is too hard for me i just want to relax and play the game so cheating isn't that bad.(for single player)
Dev : NAH! We want YOU to play the way we want you to play so taste our EGO dum dum!
Yup , that pretty much covers it all up exactly . Stupid and ridiculous
Multiplayer anticheat is ok, but anticheat on a S i n g l e p l a y e r game is not ok tbh
Gena Gena I agree its stupid lmao
Oh ok, sorry for trying to play a singleplayer game i bought the way i like, I'll refrain from using the codes you put in the game, mr devs
Imagine explodeing just because you lost 20 times in a row
Imo the games that mess with game function when you activate a code should return to normal if you deactivate it. I've never done any of these, but it sounds super frustrating :(
snoopy dubnation it’s just a game, calm down. Games are meant to have fun, it’s not that serious
@snoopy dubnation Yeah but turning the cheat back off is literally "quitting cheating and playing how it's meant to be" except the game is still broken unless you delete that save? lmao
@snoopy dubnation That'd be a fair penalty I think!
@snoopy dubnation nah I still cheat when things are frustrating or unfair. Like said up there, it's a game. What does it matter if people have their own way of beating a game? Unless you call speedrunning cheating too lol
There's absolutely no reason a single player game should ever punish you for putting in cheats or hacking the game it's your game and your ruined experience
Some devs love to troll the players, I mean it is not impossible to finish the game without cheats, right?
It’s called a practical joke. Lighten up bruh
horrorkesh you don’t like it don’t buy the game
@@soberthoughts209 It's not a practical joke if it's not removable
@@MacDaddyOP He means that it ruins an otherwise good game
Timestamps:
0:20 - Hexen: Beyond Heretic Demo
1:04 - Crusader: No Regret
1:55 - Doom 32x
2:22 - Ken's Labyrinth
3:07 - Ultima Vii
5:07 - Donkey Kong 64
6:03 - Valkyrie Profile 2
6:46 - Banjo Kazooie
7:46 - Codename: Iceman
8:55 - Jade Empire
Correction: banjo doesn’t delete the entire game pak, only the file you entered the cheat on.
Are you blind or not paying attention, he showed that all of the save file where deleted, not just the one he cheated on.
Makes sense that they'll intentionally put codes in and then screw you for using them... am I missing something?? 🙄 Aren't codes to supplement the fact that the devs didn't balance the difficulty properly for all player levels?
Well technically cheat codes are sometimes made for map,gameplay,ect testing by the developers. Like if they wanna skip to a sertant section of a map by using no clip or god mode to make it easier or they'll use a getall cheat to test weapons and items, but some cheats are put in intentionally for players to use and have fun such as the cheats in most gta games.
Just depends on the devs
Ray2Jerry eewww are you that type of people who complain about games being to hard ect. XD fuck “casual” gamers. There’s only real gamers
@@icetea9092 indeed =P but still using cheats is where the fun starts but the challenges off... why punish a cheater which is trying to get some fun ? that's sad in my point of view... Panzer Dragoon Zwei did it right... do a 100% game clear and you unlock the pandra box( cheat codes) but the box is incomplete and you can only complete the box doing story again without using pandra box and thats the way cheats should be ... want to have fun enable cheats but if you want to play for real, disable them all =P
Completing the game with pandra's box with "cheats" to make the game even worse doesnt count towards completition anyway =P
They don't give a fuck apparently, it's a damn shame . Wonder how they would react when they releases a game riddled with bugs and glitches and people still buys their broken product and no punishment falls over them...hmm 🤦♂️
@@KuraudoSutoraifu7 video games are entertainment and their are a lot of game genre's it is unlikely to be good at a lot of different genre's also you don't have to be good to be a gamer you just have to play a lot of video games
Lol imagine losing dice and your head explodes and everyone is just like yikes 😂
Developer: puts cheats in a game
Player: uses cheat
Developer: 😡
.>. I see that you used somebody else's comment and just made the devs say an angry emoji instead of "STOP. YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!" good job. (Not really.)
@@blepkid6052 i had to scroll to even find that fucking comment im no amy schumer mate
I've always found games that do this to be insufferably smug.
I am glad it is a practice that died.
I like the reprimand the player gets for cheating the lottery in Paper Mario: TTYD.
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Lol why are people being punished for using stuff that was put in the game to be used?
Debug codes
debug map and Debug codes Found on the debug map that cheaters need to find debug codes for developers to simulate the debug map because of debug codes in the debug maps that are used by debug codes
Tiny Tank for the PlayStation had a level where your turret and the enemy's turret are exchanged, so you're controlling your body with the enemy's turret on it, and your turret on the enemy's body. If you've used the invincibility cheat, you can no longer damage the enemy. And if you use the invincibility code up to this level and then save so you can reset the console to turn it off, your save file is corrupted.
Ouch!
That's crazy
This is like only letting the player only play for 2 hours a day, like when I buy a game I expect to be able to play it however I want and do whatever I want with it, but when I get punished for cheating it's almost like being scammed. I get it for online play, but for single play I didn't spend 20$ just to follow it's every rule and be punished for breaking them.
I like how the last one doesn't directly call you out on cheating, just removes your valuable source of income. Seems like a pretty good way to encourage players to be more careful with their exploitation without bible-thumping for being bad people
Digital Devil Saga: if you try to cheese the secret boss in a way that clearly shows you read a guide beforehand (minmaxing and equipping specifically to counter him) they actually detect it and instakill you in sheer disgust.
Isn't it actually if you reflect, null, or absorb anything the secret boss will one shot you?
I mean it can be fine to light heartedly punish/troll people when they try to cheat.
I'd say the most infamous example is Gradius III. As many of you might know, despite the fact that the Konami Code was popularized by Contra, it originally debuted in Gradius I, where it would give you all power-ups at once. Naturally, people would try to do the same thing in Gradius III, except that in this game, the Konami Code just causes ol' Vic Viper to explode.
Classy
Now I want to see a DK 64 no watermelon run!
Back in the day if you pirated Serious Sam, it would be the full game but there would be a giant immortal scorpion that would never stop hunting you down throughout the whole game
These were great as I hadn’t heard of any of them.
Tremmuh How have you not heard of Doom?
SalemFlame TV I’ve heard of the games. My statement was in reference to that I hadn’t heard of any of these specific easter eggs.
In Link's Awakening on both the Game Boy (Regular, Color and Advance) and the Switch, periodically you have to go to the shop at Mabe Village to purchase items that you need to continue your quest. You can either buy them or try to steal them from the shop. If you try to walk out without paying the shopkeeper will tell you to put it back. However if you run circles around the shopkeeper and make him look the other way you can get away scot free or so you think. You soon find out that everyone is calling you "THIEF" for the rest of the game and the game itself will call you out with this quote: "Guess what? You got it for free. Are you proud of yourself?". If you should at any point return to the shop for the bow you just shoplifted, you will find nothing but an enraged shopkeeper that will instantly kill you, also on the switch version this will really screw up your save file.
Ok. For all you ppl asking "why punish people for cheating in SP game".
Gotta remember for the time frame most of these games came out, *multiplayer just didnt exist*. Like, it just wasnt a concept.
There was couch co-op, and LAN, and the rare game that could handle direct modem link where you could play with one friend. Usually laggy and buggy as hell, too.
99% of games were SP.
Multiplayer didnt exist, so there was no SP/MP distinction.
And the answer as to why, its funny as hell. Basically the devs trolling you, or you could troll your friends getting them to put the codes in.
Also, what EEH failed to mention, is back then it was really common for sequel games to have odd reactions when you put in the previous games cheat codes. But they also had their own cheat codes that actually worked.
I remember I did the cheats in BK and I took bottles warning seriously.. Even as a kid I was like, "With how mean and deceiving this game can be.... I believe they will do it."
Hexen still to this day is one of my all time favorite games I ever played. Super difficult, great levels and puzzles, amazing story.
Here is one that I don't think people know about. In the video game sword of Vermilion, equipping a cursed sword will lower your attack every time you remove it. However, if you do this enough times, your attack power Skyrockets. This allows you went to pretty much Breeze through the entire game, killing everything including bosses in 1 hit. There is just one problem...
... the final boss becomes unbeatable. His second form gains unlimited health if you have enacted this cheat. This could be one of the worst cases of punishing You for Cheating because other games give you a warning and oftentimes will punish you Midway through the game, but this one waits till the very last fight to punish you. If you want to see the games ending, you have to go through the entire game and defeat everything in your path fair and square.
Now, I do not know for certain if this is a problem in the original game, since I encountered this in the Sega Genesis classics compilation for modern consoles. Still, it's interesting to know.
"Punishments for Cheating Cheat"
-this video's thumbnail, 2019
i instantly recognized the ruins music from undertale, haven't heard it in a while but its so recognizable and it made me happy and remember some good times i've had.
i rarely hear UT song in vids now so its always good to hear the music again.
Not gonna lie you caught me off guard with that Ruin Theme in the beginning, nailed it 👌
Game gods: "Oh, gaming the gambling system, are we? Be a shame if the dealer were to...EXPLODE?"
In Vectorman if you cheat the ending won't play, and in Vectorman 2 you'll get stuck on the last screen forever until you reset.
Punished for using cheats;
Online multiplayer - Makes sense
Games with achievements - I get it
Single Player games with no achievements - Uh no, you have the rights to that option
Local multiplayer games - Arguably, you should have the option to cheats with this too if both players have access to them that is
You're not entitled to play it how you want. If the Dev wants to give you that option than ok but if not you are gonna play it the way it was intended to be if you want to play it.
@@seanfeld- That's why I said the word "option" as in optional - most people I know play the game normally before doing a cheat playthrough
@@seanfeld- Yeah no, I paid my hard earned money for the game, I should be able to play it anyway I want.
Developers: *Puts cheat in game*
Player: *Uses them*
Developer: You weren't supposed to do that.
Devs judge you for cheating in a singleplayer that's understandable, but what's not is that some of them are not doing anything about cheating in multiplayer.
For an example: In MW2's map Fuel there's a rock that you can get inside which is unfair because no one will be able to kill you but you can. You know what would be nice? Is that if the devs decided to update the game and set a death zone inside that rock as a message to those cheating scums to play fair and stop cheating.
Now I know that's an old game, but I'm pretty certain that there are some glitches that are considered cheating in recent games and their developers are not doing anything about.
Messing with a save file for cheating strikes me as overkill. For piracy, I understand (see Earthbound) but just for cheating? That's way too much. Players are just going to cheat; it just comes with the territory. Though, I suppose that's _one_ way to ensure that cheaters can't finish the game without doing it legitimately, I think there's better ways to handle it.
I will admit though, stopping the player from save-scumming on RNG stuff is a good thing. I think that it should be more common to find than just a few examples.
In Banjo-Kazooie it only deletes one save file when you do what you did not all 3 and only the ones that alter the hub world will end up doing it for you.
On Enter the Matrix on PS2 if you had a bunch of cheats enabled you could play most of the game normally, however on the level where you start on an aeroplane you will spawn in with a thrown grenade that instantly explodes as soon as you gain control of the character. The only way to get past it is to disable the cheats, play the level normally "its a very difficult level" and then re-enable them afterwards.
I always laugh whenever you cheese in Fallout New Vegas by reloading a save if you loose money gambling and it makes you wait a full minute before you can play again. It says "the cardholder is shuffling the deck as an anti cheat measure"
The developer room and the anti-cheat room reminds me of some secret rooms in a game called Animal Jam, most notably Andrew's dungeon, Andrew's room of doom, and Test room.
I find it kinda funny that people are complaining about how Video games shouldn';t do this when it was a extremely common practice back then. Seriously, anti-cheat measures were honestly the least of the low blows back in those days. Also, in regards to most titles from sequels and stuff, I heavily doubt it's honestly a punishment but rather more of a trolling move on some parts.
I remember that if you tried to enter the "Enable cheats" code (gabbagabbahey) for Descent in a multiplayer game you would get knocked down to 1 health and energy and a message would appear on the other players screens telling them to go after you for an easy kill.
I also seem to recall that entering that code in Descent 2 would kill you instantly.
Freezes are often unrelated to anti-cheat.
Usually it's the person having written the cheat screwing up with something at some point.
For example unlocking everything in Smash Bros. Brawl with a cheat, will cause it to hang in the PAL version,
because the code that checks for unlocks tries to unlock things that don't exist.
I'm kinda curious if the deletion of the save pak on Banjo-Kazooie extended to more than just that game since I've had Memory Paks for the N64 before.
Some reasons for the cheat codes: 1. Devs use cheats for debugging and testing
2. (Some) forget to remove the cheats
3. For the beta players' opinion
People watching this seems to forgot minecraft has one too, by switching to creative your achievements will be removed from the save file (and maybe even clear all from your ms account)
I don't like that if you turn on "Keep Inventory" you can't get achievements. I get lost easily. I can't just go back to where I died and get my stuff. Also, I can never remember where my house is.
@@LadyOnikara that gamerule has been applied to most games including stardew, subnautica, gow etc and you can somehow retain the same items by start going for them, or how you had them in the first place. Because otherwise the game will be too easy
Snare: exists
Easter: Lemme get a quick tilt on that one
It's best to use trainers rather cheats in game.
Which is basically Gameshark or action replay ...
trainers just have the code ez to get instead of typing yourself ...
The last 2 was funny enough but the rest is just wack, what's the point of them anyways let the players have fun
If you have never played Jade Empire and you see this, DO IT. easily the NUMBER 1 slept on game. should be awards and celebration all over for that master piece
Those save cheats reminded me of Fallout 4, because it appeared to me that if you quick save before doing a persuasion, pass and then somehow go back to the save, you'll constantly fail the persuasion
Some nice ones in there James. I liked the exploding gambler at the end ha ha!
Hope you have a great Christmas mate! Enjoy!
(I thought you might include the old classic SimCity in this list. If you did the money cheat 3 times it caused an earthquake lol)
Valkyrie profile 2 is actually one of my favourite ps2 games and I didn't know the game could punish you for cheating. It's a good thing I played and beaten that game plain jane vanilla style.
I get the feeling that its not a punishment so much as the cheats causing stack overflows or otherwise modifying data that shouldn't be messed with causing a number of gamestates that just crash out.
I love how those cheats for Banjo-Kazooie rhyme! It's a cute touch.
This guy sounds like he should be a BBC news presenter.
I mean they did hire Jonathan Ross for a talk show, so I suppose you're right...
Did I not tell you how many tables I looked through? I'm going to be conservative and say it was somewhere in the tens of thousands of tables, any reasonable person would say I spent an ABSURD amount of time doing nothing but looking at tables.
And I genuinely considered each one too! I took a hell of a lot of notes! I keep the notes in a different room, that rooms is less serious than this one.
It's more of a... notes room.
2:34 - You used the wrong _Shadow Warrior_ logo. The one you used here is for the 2013 reboot. The Build Engine version logo is: www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/628901-shadow-warrior-classic-redux-windows-screenshot-title-screen.jpg
Wow I didn't think anybody else knew about hexen and heretic I had both of those games on PC when I was a kid I haven't met anybody in real life who's ever played them
Me and my friends were huge fans of those games, Wolfenstein, Quake, Doom, Hexen, Heretic and basically if it was a first person shooter we played it :D
@@TheEasterEggHunter I had the original Wolfenstein and the original doom on floppy disk I had hexen and heretic on a CD rom but I've never played quake
@@TheEasterEggHunter thanks for replying to my comment even though your post is a year old I'm going to sub to your channel now
In gta san andreas the health code repairs your car fully. This would make it so when your car got damaged you could repair your car without the pay n spray. The game however is aware of this. There are some missions where the car has a health meter and when it is depleted the car is destroyed promptly ending the mission. One would think to use the health code but the game devs were ready. Activating the cheat in one of these missions will cause the vehicle to instantly explode as opposed to replenishing the cars health.
wow that valkyrie profile 2 is super harsh.. there is anti cheat but that takes the cake.. they must really hate cheaters
If a player is struggling so much or so unhappy with your singplayer game that they need to cheat, maybe don't punish them or stop them from doing it. I thought the point of game creating was for people to play them, not have everything deleted and make them hate your game.
1:54 If I was a game dev and they managed to beat 8 of the final boss at once, i'd just let them have the fucking cheats. They've obviously proven the game doesn't challenge them Any way.
Me:watching the title
My mind:*sonic gather battle memories*
So for dk64, if you use unlimited health, you have to then always use it from then on?
Or would you be fine if you deactivated it before saving?
Does Final Fantasy VIII for PS1 have an anti-cheat system, as well? I started a new game on my PSP with cwcheat codes activated, and while I was playing, the game bugged out a bit, but it was playable until I made it to the first dream part; before Laguna and Co. are supposed to appear on the battle screen, the game froze. Sometimes, Squall appears out of place in an area in Balamb Garden or a town.
I got fed up with those bugs, so I used a save editor to give my characters max stats and party max items, instead, and I didn't run into the bugs, anymore.
Love seeing Ultima games in these videos.
I was there when Lord british was assassinated in 97' in Ultima Online.
Great Video James!
How is the Stanley Parable not on here?
@ 9:00 - 10:22, Cristin Holt from "Cheat!" on G4TV talked about this.
Developers should reward players for playing their game the way they intended, instead of punish them for playing differently
I remember when you steal an item from the shop in Link’s awakening you’ll be killed if you enter the shop again and be called thief
Does this also apply to the remake?
At 0:33 it zooms in on John Ramiro’s face a Easter egg within an Easter egg video!
A little late but amazing background theme
Thanks Evan :)
Straight to the point subbed
Dude where do you find your background music
You might’ve missed a few games.
The sims franchise had many different punishments.
The one that I mainly remember is the DS sims where I’d you had put a cheat code in there, aliens would’ve gotten sent down and steal various things.
Whenever my sisters did put in a cheat code I was always stressed and scared.
That’s all bye.
CrispBag ive never had a single issue in Sims 4 for the PC, nor did I have any for Sims 3 on PC too.
Yes because you might’ve not put any cheat codes or you might of only done it once or twice.
CrispBag There’s no punishment for cheats on the Sims3 or Sims4
well yes but most of them
@@crispbag5972 I cheated the hell out of all the Sims Games for PC. Starting from the first.
You were never punished for cheating? O.o
Welcome to the game 2 has one too. If you try to cheat and neutralize one threat you will get teleported into the elevator down the hallway outside your apartment with no way to get out so you'll lose your run. Also the game's developer is outside the elevator clapping at you.
Jade Empire. One of my favorites. Should really benefit from a sequel on Xbox Series X. :)
Dealer loses so many times in a row he blows up XD
Tiger Woods could teach you lot about this.
Another great video!
how do you put cheat codes in your game and then punish people for using them? I get minor punishments but corrupting save files???
Do you guys heard of Racing Lagoon (PS1)?
When you're playing with ePSXe and using cheat engine, the game will show some "disk tape change" and the game progress will reset to 0%.