i think he calls $72k, with a pot that big, almost 3-1, and could be up against AQ, KQ, missed J10 draw with 2nd pr, Q9s, etc.. he has to call.. Dwan should realize board pairing wasnt a good thing..
@@sschiff999 Honestly, this is a good reason why keeping your personal life in good order will help you make good decisions at the table. Some people can't admit it, but having personal financial problems definitely follow people to the table and influence their decisions
He's using all the youtube tricks: capital letters, lots of punctuation, clickbait titles, ending video mid-sentence/word. Don't hate the player, hate the game... lol
Thid type of content is J Little doing click baity rubbish but as a previous p says this is probably required to remain visible to the youtube algorithm
@@iamjeramy nah he's losing the ability to make quality content so you resort to those tactics. You don't need to co-sign and make excuses for it. (had to unsub I can't stand people who need to waste my time for a view. last 1 he gets from me)
@@davidjameschartrand1362 I am, I unsubbed due to this clikbaitery wasted my time (also he talks like robot) you can find other coaches with more followers, just use the search bar
Peter counting out his chips so carefully to $224k was a giveaway he had the nuts. He wanted you to pay him off so it was just the RIGHT AMOUNT; $152k more. Not too little and not too much more. Fold Tom.
Peter is basically saying he can beat a Queen. Bluffing this spot would be very crazy. Peter is not playing crazy unless he's bored. He's not bored. What beats a queen? A straight and a full house. What does Tom have? The worst of it.
Yes, I think Peter would have called if the river was a blank. With everyone checking on the turn, Dwan could easily be bluffing the river with a hand that makes sense (J10, J9, etc.) or value betting worse (KQ, Q9, 109). I think a call with top 2 given the action is necessary.
The way Peter instantly picks up chips and really tries to size it out perfectly seems like a big tell. It’s not as if he sat there stone cold and came up w the amount in his head. Seems like a big tell…
Just had the look w/ those chips of someone who knew he wouldn't lose them (and, like you said, couldn't hide how he was only considering the right bet size)
I don't understand the bet on the river by Dwan. I don't think Polk is checking two pair+ on the turn, so Dwan most likely has him beat. But Peter calling a big C/R on the flop could easily have a set or two pair. I doubt he's calling on that board with only one pair. I think Dwan should have checked the river and just called the river bet by Peter. The river queen is a really bad card for Dwan. The only hand I could see Peter having here that might call the flop is KQ or QJ (again he might not), giving him top pair with a straight draw on the flop. If he bets those hands on the river, Tom gets value from those hands and he doesn't lose as much when Peter makes a full house.
I don't understand the call pre flop or the check/call/calll on the flop or the check/call on the turn or the bet on the river when the board finally pairs or the call when he gets raised big after the board pairs Every play on every street seems stupid to me
Dwan has to bet based on that action. Flop gets bet by Peter, Dwan calls, Doug check raises, call, call. The turn is a blank and it checks around. If Doug had two pair plus, he’s not going to check the turn and Peter shouldn’t be checking his top two either. You bet to extract value, deny equity and bluff/semibluff. By the river Dwan can put reliably put Doug on a hand like he’s got- a semi-bluff check raise type of hand with a little bit of equity on the flop. QJ, J9, King X suited with backdoor flush possibilities. Putting Peter on a hand is much more difficult, because he shouldn’t check two pair- let alone top two pair, or a set on that turn. In all honesty, it’s just bad poker, if you’re worried about a set or straight you should still bet small- because Jack anything, 78, K9, A9 etc has a lot of equity to outdraw you. So his most likely hands are going to be KQ, QJ, J9 etc, maybe the occasional AQ or AJ. If he’s got a strong Q, you want to extract value but once he raises, it becomes either a full house, nut straight or complete bluff. Maybe occasionally an over played Queen but extremely unlikely. If you listen to Dwan while he talks out loud about calling/folding, he goes over everything I said. Most people aren’t capable of bluffing in this situation but having seen Peter on HCL a few different sessions after the million dollar game, I do think it’s possible that he’s one of them. With that said, I don’t know if he’s capable of doing it for this much money. It’s a pretty brutal spot for Dwan, which highlights why you don’t play weak hands, out of position, ESPECIALLY from the small blind.
@@erickelly4682 Good analysis. I agree with pretty much everything you said except I don't think Peter has the nut straight and I don't think he's raising the river with that hand. I also think he is just calling river bets with trips. On the river, he either has a full house or some type of bluff but given the action, I don't know what that bluff is. But you're right, the turn check threw Tom off. I'm not sure why Peter checked there or what he was afraid of. I guess because Tom over-called the check-raise, he figured Tom could have a stronger hand than him. They both knew when Polk checked the turn, he didn't have a strong hand.
@@jackolini Yeah raising with the nut straight or a set is definitely not the usual play or something I would do/recommend doing but against a certain type of player, it’s potentially a good/+ EV play in my opinion, especially as deep as these guys are playing. It would definitely be something that is player/situational dependent though and NOT something you’d normally want to do. Some of these guys are so splashy and wild though, that I think it’s worth considering. I wouldn’t have raised Peter with anything but the nuts though, that guy was Sun Running every session he played. That million dollar pot he won with K 7 vs pocket 7’s on a runout of K 7 4 4 K was SO SICK for Action Dan!
@PokerCoaching Hello Jonathan. Do you have or can you point me in the direction of the previous days footage? I have some of your S&G and audiobooks. Love your work. Alan
I'm sorry, but Tom should have checked the river and called any bet. Could have saved himself over 100k, and also by betting the river, he didn't allow his opponent a chance to bluff. When the Q hit the river, his hand was severely downgraded. The 72k was no longer a value bet, bc you're only getting called by trips (for the win) or getting called by a higher straight (for the loss) or getting raised by a full house/quads (several combinations of those available now), and could even get bluffed (which apparently that's what he thought was happening anyways). Though Dwan is a legend a better at poker than me on his worst day, this was played horrendously imho
Watch when Tom play the old days in high stakes poker , he never really show much poker face , compare to now days playing with much of billionaire and pros he shows the frustration, that shows how much the game has changed
dwan asked why did he check the turn? but didnt really put much effort into it, polk re raised, peter knew his imagine and people wanna milk him so he didnt fall for trap, lesson: use your time wisely to investigate.
The question asked at 07:11, Peter would for sure fold for $72k on the river, this is so extremely clear to me if you follow the entire story of the hand.
that raise on the river was enough to say " I have more than you".. 2nd Nut straight still wasnt THE nuts.. KJ beats, any Set now is a boat, and no fear of the board pairing and that raise size ?? he was praying Dwan had what he had or better, and would shove it or re re raise.. or call, but i am sure he wanted to be re raised. Dwan surprised to see he called, yea, he has a strong hand, but, the flat to Dougs big bet, shoulda said he had a good hand. checking the Turn, was smart, but, if you feel he has a monster, or might, its what virtually EVERYONE at the table would do. even though Q10 wasnt ahead. not yet..
No chance he makes a $3/5 pot call from Tom if it bricks on the River. KJ & J8 are both probably holdings from early position lead out on the River.🎉🎉🎉
I would have been thinking someone has a set three ways action by the turn and if I were dwan, I think betting the turn would be ideal. Why bet the river with paired board? I know he’s hoping trips calls but really he’s beat by kj and any full house. I know it’s easier said then done but who likes going 3 ways to a river with low end of the straight?
Sometimes you have to think “old school “. Way before poker was televised every day. 2 other players in the pot Raising and calling raises. Tom bets river and gets raised. He has to consider the likely possibility of flopped set or 2 pair, or KJ for better straight.
Him and Jungle are friends now. Jungle said he wants Dwan to win money and that he hasnt paid in full but he is making payments and that he regrets being so angry with Dwan. You should really research before making such inflammatory comments when Jungle himself has no issue with Dwan.
IMHO Tom should have bet that same amount on the Turn. That way he could have gotten a better feel from his opponents. They most likely would have folded. This was an example of how trying to trap can get the best of you.
He wasnt slow playing its only second nuts on the flop. He doesnt want to reverse odds himself by building a huge pit with second best. His mistake was on the river. He should have checked-called versus making a bet that could be raised. He pot controlled but got greedy on the riv.
@@dalysean86 I think bet is fine. You get thin values from aq,Kq, qj but get owned from qt,q9, tt and 99. Slightly less ev but not much. However, when he decided to bet he should prepare to fold if get a big raised. There is literally no bluff there on the river. Any bluff cards should be gone by Doug’s raised on the turn.
They way Peter is builduing the Stack in his Hand, just thinking how much would Tom possibly pay on the River, is never ever AQ or a Bluff, thats always just the Nuts and nothing else.
Also when Dwan says could you have QT or Q9 there is a mini smirk from Peter. I dont know if Dwan couod have seen that but it was obvious on camera. Smirked because he now knew Dwan had straight or better
@PokerCoaching, I don't get the title. Just a clickbait, or is something going on? Plz clarify. I would expact it from another youtubers, but not from you I guess, sinds this is a serious poker Chanel.
If I was Peter... I would not wear mirror sunglasses which reflects everything back to the table. Maybe you don't expose your hand every time, but there's prob a few hands you let folks sitting close to you see your cards.
Ur overthhinking it. It's so hard to constantly look at someone's shades to see their cards no one does that plus when will they relax or think if they are just paying attention to someone's reflection. Lastly to see his cards would be so hard he probably barely turns the cards when he sees them
@@JohnR-u9y Top world class players are better at reading, or spotting small advantages. Phil Ivey was able to spot micro imperfections on cards to beat baccarat. Which passed the card mfg, casino quality assurance, and likely hundreds of professional dealers using these cards for tens of thousands of hours. Even the advantage of knowing if someone has red or black cards can be significant.
The thing is, the KJ was still out there. Like you said, Jon, you raise $72K and they come over the top on you, unless they are a complete idiot fish, who is going to bluff into a big raise?
I don't know if it's a coincidence but every time I see peter play, he is always winning a big hand whether he has the goods or not. Peter is definitely a hard player to read.
Yes, he's absolutely pay off 72K with top two. Dwan could be value betting worse or bluffing missed draws. Seems like a trivially easy call to me (now I'll unpause and see how wrong I was...).
Dwan is not that good of a player, for realz! He deserved to lose that hand. Should have bet the turn and not been greedy!!! He could have bought the pot at that point. Take it down when you are ahead.
I was thinking Peter should have raised to 475k. Tom might re-raise AI. Do you think Tom would have found a fold? What if Peter had AQ? Do you think he would have raised on the river?
Peter checking back the brick on the turn would see me betting small on the river because im thinking he wants to improve his hand and can only bluff catch. The board pairing would shut me down though. I check call the river. But hey im commenting from the rail so 🤷
No one is saying the most obvious here. It is almost impossible for any of them to have a bluff. Dwan called twice ok the flop, so maybe AJ, and Peter bet-called the flop. Dwan looks very strong and if Peter has a Q he will likely only call since raising even AQ is kind of suicidal. No flushdraws on the flop, only straight draws. So unless the unlikely case that Peter has AJ that he decides to turn into a bluff on the river (and did not try to bluff on turn), what can Dwan beat? Dwan has to have a made hand except for AJ. He is not betting JT or KT. If he bets QJ, KQ Peter will only call with AQ since dwan has fulls, straights snd almost no bluffs.
IF he has no reason to believe his play, after the board pairs, he also doesn't care about the money at that level. But more than 2min of drama really is a waste of time.
Timeless poker wisdom had us taught early: a raise on the river is always... ? But NO - GTO and Tom Dwan are much better, they do stuff we peasants don't understand. You simply cannot say that was a fishy call.
No kidding. Last time I went to the casino, my AA got beat by K3, and QQ got beat by J8 off, AND J6 off the very next hand! I shoved on the flop, both called with a J (top pair), and BOTH got there by the river
Weird analysis, are you pretending this is a 5$/10$ game? Explaining one of the biggest minds in live poker with some poker fundamentals is kinda poor tbh
Crazy to see a player like Tom who likes to put the hurt on people find himself on a losing streak. I think peak Tom Dwan would have found the fold but he has was tilted and not bringing his A game.
Tom played it bad on nearly every street, not much else to say there. The most interesting part was Doug's raise on the flop with the K8s with the backdoor which is actually really high-level. Doug has all the KJ in range, all J8s, a lot of J8o, and all the two-pair combos in range so he has nutted hands barring sets. Issue for Doug is he has to check-raise those hands but he should just call most lone J hands that would otherwise balance his range, so what bluffs can he have? Bad straight draws that have good equity but want to steal the pot now or be forced to fold. K8s with the backdoor fits the bill perfectly, it blocks KJ and J8 and wants to win right now and doesn't care about being re-raised because it's a simple fold. If players don't think he's got this in range then he's printing money when a heart lands on the turn and he barrels not to mention the times he simply outdraws a hand like QT that Peter has.
Hey, Jonathan. What are you doing? Saying he has the second nuts? I know I'm not a professional by any stretch. But isn't there like? 6 full houses and one bigger straight? I'm just saying
Here I thought you could only get 1/2 dollar stakes to donk it off on the river when it's obvious I have the nuts. Turns out even the best do it. Go figure.
Love your videos, but Dwan is trying to be in as many pots as he can exactly in this scenario. Is Dwan done? No, is he too loose yes. In these cash games you don’t play optimal everyhand, it’s easy to pick and choose and you of all should know this. Mtts different than cash. Keep the videos up though this just seems result oriented and yes obv Dwan isn’t playing “GTO” in a cash game where it’s 1/10th the stakes he normally plays.
Also don’t see any videos being made of my favorite player Alex Keating? Why? Cause he has his strategy and it’s not like all the elite mtt regs. He understands high level and exploits it. (Keating) Tom on the other hand I think is trying to do the same just 1 hand in a vacuum of 20-30k/year hands he plays.
It'd easy to put opponent on exactly what he had! Makes perfect sense, but Peter didn't get too greedy laid a great price. If he had made an overbet then Tom ineta folds. Can't blame him.callimg with prove being laid
If Tom calls on the flop (should have raised Big or jam, if someone has the nuts on the flop with a J blocker, then so be it). Now with a complete blank on the turn, Tom should have definitely bet big. Now that the river paired, tough but how do you fold? I mean it's PETER for God's sake, he always has it! These people try to trap each other too much.
Shove for like 1000big blinds? Great strategy! No, tom obviously needs to check the turn because Doug raised the turn lol. It would make no sense to lead on a blank turn!
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Where did Peter get his $ ? Another trust fund lotto kid? The poker world is chuck full of spoiled kids 😂
i think he calls $72k, with a pot that big, almost 3-1, and could be up against AQ, KQ, missed J10 draw with 2nd pr, Q9s, etc..
he has to call.. Dwan should realize board pairing wasnt a good thing..
Tom plays like he doesn't have to worry about paying anyone back.
or he's too worried about it to make proper folds.
@@sschiff999 Honestly, this is a good reason why keeping your personal life in good order will help you make good decisions at the table. Some people can't admit it, but having personal financial problems definitely follow people to the table and influence their decisions
Yea cuz u guys would make that fold in that situation it’s easy to think u would while seeing what people have
Is this the END for Jonathan Little? 😢 (What’s going on?)
He's using all the youtube tricks: capital letters, lots of punctuation, clickbait titles, ending video mid-sentence/word. Don't hate the player, hate the game... lol
Thid type of content is J Little doing click baity rubbish but as a previous p says this is probably required to remain visible to the youtube algorithm
Little is such a straight forward, no-fluff kinda guy so when I see these ridiculous click bait titles by him it makes me chuckle 😂
Yeah exactly lol, if the title wasnt click bait enough, coming from Jonathan its overt @alecburris4225
@@iamjeramy nah he's losing the ability to make quality content so you resort to those tactics. You don't need to co-sign and make excuses for it. (had to unsub I can't stand people who need to waste my time for a view. last 1 he gets from me)
Is this the end for Tom Dwan ??? Are you really that desperate for views ...
U mad?
@@davidjameschartrand1362 I am, I unsubbed due to this clikbaitery wasted my time (also he talks like robot) you can find other coaches with more followers, just use the search bar
@@davidjameschartrand1362 u crycry ./.
He wants to sell his course! DUH!
@@UnbiasedMagicReviews by misleading people? DUH!
Peter counting out his chips so carefully to $224k was a giveaway he had the nuts. He wanted you to pay him off so it was just the RIGHT AMOUNT; $152k more. Not too little and not too much more. Fold Tom.
sizing doesn't matter in this spot, 0 bluff & j8 is just bluff catcher here
Peter is basically saying he can beat a Queen. Bluffing this spot would be very crazy. Peter is not playing crazy unless he's bored. He's not bored. What beats a queen? A straight and a full house. What does Tom have? The worst of it.
open 3x de TT
AQ and KQ beats most of queens.
logic
Yes, I think Peter would have called if the river was a blank. With everyone checking on the turn, Dwan could easily be bluffing the river with a hand that makes sense (J10, J9, etc.) or value betting worse (KQ, Q9, 109). I think a call with top 2 given the action is necessary.
yeah i mean the pot odds are also overwhelmingly in favor of a call
Of course he would call, it’s a dumb respone bait question, almost as bad as the title.
@@reinburger7609 hate much??
The way Peter instantly picks up chips and really tries to size it out perfectly seems like a big tell. It’s not as if he sat there stone cold and came up w the amount in his head. Seems like a big tell…
Yeah, he should've just been keeping track and verbalized before reaching for chips
Just had the look w/ those chips of someone who knew he wouldn't lose them (and, like you said, couldn't hide how he was only considering the right bet size)
@@atfti yeeeeep
@@sbeni2 yeeeeeep
Nibba you should just do the same thing
Every time. @@atfti
That cheeky lil smirk before saying "Nuts" was diabolical 😂
He was soooo Gangsta!
Is there ever a stream where Peter somehow doesn't end up with the nuts 🤣
When he goes busto 🤕
Go watch the Triton games he plays on, HCL is a joke and shouldn't be used to analyze his game.
Biggest sun run in HCL history
HCL is so fishy
@@lloydchristmas1086yup. These people are crazy
I don't understand the bet on the river by Dwan. I don't think Polk is checking two pair+ on the turn, so Dwan most likely has him beat. But Peter calling a big C/R on the flop could easily have a set or two pair. I doubt he's calling on that board with only one pair. I think Dwan should have checked the river and just called the river bet by Peter. The river queen is a really bad card for Dwan.
The only hand I could see Peter having here that might call the flop is KQ or QJ (again he might not), giving him top pair with a straight draw on the flop. If he bets those hands on the river, Tom gets value from those hands and he doesn't lose as much when Peter makes a full house.
Yeah betting the river was a dumb move here
I don't understand the call pre flop or the check/call/calll on the flop or the check/call on the turn or the bet on the river when the board finally pairs or the call when he gets raised big after the board pairs
Every play on every street seems stupid to me
Dwan has to bet based on that action. Flop gets bet by Peter, Dwan calls, Doug check raises, call, call.
The turn is a blank and it checks around.
If Doug had two pair plus, he’s not going to check the turn and Peter shouldn’t be checking his top two either. You bet to extract value, deny equity and bluff/semibluff.
By the river Dwan can put reliably put Doug on a hand like he’s got- a semi-bluff check raise type of hand with a little bit of equity on the flop. QJ, J9, King X suited with backdoor flush possibilities.
Putting Peter on a hand is much more difficult, because he shouldn’t check two pair- let alone top two pair, or a set on that turn. In all honesty, it’s just bad poker, if you’re worried about a set or straight you should still bet small- because Jack anything, 78, K9, A9 etc has a lot of equity to outdraw you.
So his most likely hands are going to be KQ, QJ, J9 etc, maybe the occasional AQ or AJ. If he’s got a strong Q, you want to extract value but once he raises, it becomes either a full house, nut straight or complete bluff. Maybe occasionally an over played Queen but extremely unlikely.
If you listen to Dwan while he talks out loud about calling/folding, he goes over everything I said.
Most people aren’t capable of bluffing in this situation but having seen Peter on HCL a few different sessions after the million dollar game, I do think it’s possible that he’s one of them. With that said, I don’t know if he’s capable of doing it for this much money.
It’s a pretty brutal spot for Dwan, which highlights why you don’t play weak hands, out of position, ESPECIALLY from the small blind.
@@erickelly4682 Good analysis. I agree with pretty much everything you said except I don't think Peter has the nut straight and I don't think he's raising the river with that hand. I also think he is just calling river bets with trips. On the river, he either has a full house or some type of bluff but given the action, I don't know what that bluff is.
But you're right, the turn check threw Tom off. I'm not sure why Peter checked there or what he was afraid of. I guess because Tom over-called the check-raise, he figured Tom could have a stronger hand than him. They both knew when Polk checked the turn, he didn't have a strong hand.
@@jackolini
Yeah raising with the nut straight or a set is definitely not the usual play or something I would do/recommend doing but against a certain type of player, it’s potentially a good/+ EV play in my opinion, especially as deep as these guys are playing.
It would definitely be something that is player/situational dependent though and NOT something you’d normally want to do. Some of these guys are so splashy and wild though, that I think it’s worth considering.
I wouldn’t have raised Peter with anything but the nuts though, that guy was Sun Running every session he played. That million dollar pot he won with K 7 vs pocket 7’s on a runout of
K 7 4 4 K was SO SICK for Action Dan!
Peter vs Hellmuth sounds fun to watch.
Hellmuth monologue 😂
Hellmuth couldn't play deep enough for Peter. Hellmuth would buy in for the minimum
@@OhSheaPoker true enough 😂
Peter doesn't play micro stakes.
except hes not going to be playing anywhere but the Hustler. Think about it.
Funny the way Peter kept picking up chips as Tom looked sicker with each one.
@PokerCoaching Hello Jonathan. Do you have or can you point me in the direction of the previous days footage? I have some of your S&G and audiobooks. Love your work. Alan
Which poker professional would YOU like to see Peter destroy next? 🤯
Tony G
But can not find it in my coinpoker.....
Non
Watching someone painfully talk themselves into a call when they are beat is painful to watch. Doesn’t matter who it is
Hellmuth LOL but he would never be caught dead at a 1m buy in game
Click bait. And Tom is absolutely fine and has millions of poker buddy including Phill Ivey
Tom is in debt!
@@enriquestewart5762 no he isn’t anymore. They came to a point and it’s all been sorted now plus future earnings he’s sharing to the ones
@@enriquestewart5762prove it
You're living in the past bro.
U know nothing 😂
The way he's thinking and his rambling just show that Dwan is still an elite class player.
I'm sorry, but Tom should have checked the river and called any bet. Could have saved himself over 100k, and also by betting the river, he didn't allow his opponent a chance to bluff. When the Q hit the river, his hand was severely downgraded. The 72k was no longer a value bet, bc you're only getting called by trips (for the win) or getting called by a higher straight (for the loss) or getting raised by a full house/quads (several combinations of those available now), and could even get bluffed (which apparently that's what he thought was happening anyways). Though Dwan is a legend a better at poker than me on his worst day, this was played horrendously imho
Good summary.
Tom at 11:20 - *I fell like I'm never good but how can I be beat?*
Watch when Tom play the old days in high stakes poker , he never really show much poker face , compare to now days playing with much of billionaire and pros he shows the frustration, that shows how much the game has changed
First time watching this channel...and I must say, I like it.
Good job.
Thanks for saying so, I'm glad you enjoy it!
I really dont understand the call on the river.
Hard to find a bluff OR a value hand weaker than straight.
AQ for value.
J10 for bluff
You forgot to mention about Polk raising on the flop was him holding the nut blocker. I think this is relevant+ with Polk involved.
We will see Tom soon at the local $1/2 games
dwan asked why did he check the turn? but didnt really put much effort into it, polk re raised, peter knew his imagine and people wanna milk him so he didnt fall for trap, lesson: use your time wisely to investigate.
The question asked at 07:11, Peter would for sure fold for $72k on the river, this is so extremely clear to me if you follow the entire story of the hand.
Peter's the perpetual "Luck Box" and Tom's a known Calling Station, so not a surprise outcome. LOL
@ 6:07 Look at Peter gulp, like lord have mercy, I'm scraping in a monster 😂
Would peter have checked turn if he wasnt against tom firing into him?
that raise on the river was enough to say " I have more than you".. 2nd Nut straight still wasnt THE nuts.. KJ beats, any Set now is a boat, and no fear of the board pairing and that raise size ?? he was praying Dwan had what he had or better, and would shove it or re re raise.. or call, but i am sure he wanted to be re raised.
Dwan surprised to see he called, yea, he has a strong hand, but, the flat to Dougs big bet, shoulda said he had a good hand. checking the Turn, was smart, but, if you feel he has a monster, or might, its what virtually EVERYONE at the table would do. even though Q10 wasnt ahead. not yet..
It's painful to watch. That check with two pair could have been a Dwan move a few years ago.
No chance he makes a $3/5 pot call from Tom if it bricks on the River. KJ & J8 are both probably holdings from early position lead out on the River.🎉🎉🎉
I like this breakdown.....keep them coming.
Thanks! I certainly will.
Tom Dwan has a gambling addiction.
I would have been thinking someone has a set three ways action by the turn and if I were dwan, I think betting the turn would be ideal. Why bet the river with paired board? I know he’s hoping trips calls but really he’s beat by kj and any full house. I know it’s easier said then done but who likes going 3 ways to a river with low end of the straight?
Sometimes you have to think “old school “. Way before poker was televised every day. 2 other players in the pot Raising and calling raises. Tom bets river and gets raised. He has to consider the likely possibility of flopped set or 2 pair, or KJ for better straight.
Why does Jonathan Little pretend he was ever in the same class as Tom Dwan? My guess, he makes pretending his business.
A small bet could help you know where you are in multi-way pots
I watched this. Peter made a lot of good decisions, but he also caught a lot of cards
peter peter pumpkin cheater?
I thought Dwan was busto and owed millions , insult to Jungleman etc that he sits here with this much money.
Him and Jungle are friends now. Jungle said he wants Dwan to win money and that he hasnt paid in full but he is making payments and that he regrets being so angry with Dwan. You should really research before making such inflammatory comments when Jungle himself has no issue with Dwan.
IMHO Tom should have bet that same amount on the Turn. That way he could have gotten a better feel from his opponents. They most likely would have folded. This was an example of how trying to trap can get the best of you.
F*** slow playing, especially multi way!
Dwan left himself wide open. he maybe under too much debt pressure. He seems to play scared now.
He wasnt slow playing its only second nuts on the flop. He doesnt want to reverse odds himself by building a huge pit with second best. His mistake was on the river. He should have checked-called versus making a bet that could be raised. He pot controlled but got greedy on the riv.
@@dalysean86 I think bet is fine. You get thin values from aq,Kq, qj but get owned from qt,q9, tt and 99. Slightly less ev but not much. However, when he decided to bet he should prepare to fold if get a big raised.
There is literally no bluff there on the river. Any bluff cards should be gone by Doug’s raised on the turn.
Tom was the king when all the rich fish were playing. Hes a man out of time.
They way Peter is builduing the Stack in his Hand, just thinking how much would Tom possibly pay on the River, is never ever AQ or a Bluff, thats always just the Nuts and nothing else.
Also when Dwan says could you have QT or Q9 there is a mini smirk from Peter. I dont know if Dwan couod have seen that but it was obvious on camera. Smirked because he now knew Dwan had straight or better
@PokerCoaching,
I don't get the title. Just a clickbait, or is something going on? Plz clarify.
I would expact it from another youtubers, but not from you I guess, sinds this is a serious poker Chanel.
If I was Peter... I would not wear mirror sunglasses which reflects everything back to the table. Maybe you don't expose your hand every time, but there's prob a few hands you let folks sitting close to you see your cards.
Impossible. It’s just an internet joke.
Ur overthhinking it. It's so hard to constantly look at someone's shades to see their cards no one does that plus when will they relax or think if they are just paying attention to someone's reflection. Lastly to see his cards would be so hard he probably barely turns the cards when he sees them
@@JohnR-u9y Top world class players are better at reading, or spotting small advantages. Phil Ivey was able to spot micro imperfections on cards to beat baccarat. Which passed the card mfg, casino quality assurance, and likely hundreds of professional dealers using these cards for tens of thousands of hours. Even the advantage of knowing if someone has red or black cards can be significant.
The thing is, the KJ was still out there. Like you said, Jon, you raise $72K and they come over the top on you, unless they are a complete idiot fish, who is going to bluff into a big raise?
Flopped straights are a nightmare on occasions like this I hate them flopped boats are so much more dependable!
Tom Dwan looks like he is auditioning to play Vulcan or Romulan in Star Trek the Next Generation.
Dunno how this gambler is Always alive and don't broke
Queen on the river bumped his hand value way down, should have just checked to call
remember a long time ago Dwan was considered the greatest poker wizard the game of Texas hold em has ever seen?
Peter call when he has nothing. I think he would. It’s Peter.
I don't know if it's a coincidence but every time I see peter play, he is always winning a big hand whether he has the goods or not. Peter is definitely a hard player to read.
He confused him with his bad play on the turn, but QT or Q9 are definitely the only hands that he can have there.
Yes, he's absolutely pay off 72K with top two. Dwan could be value betting worse or bluffing missed draws. Seems like a trivially easy call to me (now I'll unpause and see how wrong I was...).
He's the best live cg player ever, my humble opinion
I watched all them pots and it was unreal how Peter ran against dwan
Dwan is not that good of a player, for realz! He deserved to lose that hand. Should have bet the turn and not been greedy!!! He could have bought the pot at that point. Take it down when you are ahead.
I was thinking Peter should have raised to 475k. Tom might re-raise AI. Do you think Tom would have found a fold? What if Peter had AQ? Do you think he would have raised on the river?
Peter checking back the brick on the turn would see me betting small on the river because im thinking he wants to improve his hand and can only bluff catch. The board pairing would shut me down though. I check call the river. But hey im commenting from the rail so 🤷
No one is saying the most obvious here. It is almost impossible for any of them to have a bluff. Dwan called twice ok the flop, so maybe AJ, and Peter bet-called the flop. Dwan looks very strong and if Peter has a Q he will likely only call since raising even AQ is kind of suicidal. No flushdraws on the flop, only straight draws. So unless the unlikely case that Peter has AJ that he decides to turn into a bluff on the river (and did not try to bluff on turn), what can Dwan beat? Dwan has to have a made hand except for AJ. He is not betting JT or KT. If he bets QJ, KQ Peter will only call with AQ since dwan has fulls, straights snd almost no bluffs.
IF he has no reason to believe his play, after the board pairs, he also doesn't care about the money at that level. But more than 2min of drama really is a waste of time.
If playing 1M cash games is the end sign me up
someone tell Jonathan these video's are old
What's wrong with reviewing older hands? I've not covered them. Many people wouldn't have seen it.
Do Phil, Phil and Daniel not play in these big stake games?
It's amazing poker names can play poker year after year, winning, losing, it doesn't seem to matter..
Nice gig if u can get it.🤔
Is Doug Polk back to grinding .10 .25?
How much of a tip did Peter give to the dealer?
The standard … a shiny quarter .
Timeless poker wisdom had us taught early: a raise on the river is always... ?
But NO - GTO and Tom Dwan are much better, they do stuff we peasants don't understand. You simply cannot say that was a fishy call.
Just insane that Peter the Luckbox continues to always draw out.
Followed the Video Step by Step as instructed. Free roll does not show for me. Feel you must be in a state that allows online gambling maybe?
Peter might be the luckiest player I've ever seen. When is he ever not catching?
If its a blank 3 on river he definitely calls 72k. Does he call 172k? The answer is probably yes
So where was his end in this single hand?
No kidding. Last time I went to the casino, my AA got beat by K3, and QQ got beat by J8 off, AND J6 off the very next hand! I shoved on the flop, both called with a J (top pair), and BOTH got there by the river
And your point is ?
Peter would call the blank based on how Tom slow played his hand
I think he has to call if river was a 3. It is Durrr after all.
Weird analysis, are you pretending this is a 5$/10$ game?
Explaining one of the biggest minds in live poker with some poker fundamentals is kinda poor tbh
Dwan focus more getting liked by fish than playing good
If owing poker backers $30 Mil isn't the end of Tom Dwan... this sure isn't.
yeh Its just a click bait title tbh
Crazy to see a player like Tom who likes to put the hurt on people find himself on a losing streak. I think peak Tom Dwan would have found the fold but he has was tilted and not bringing his A game.
Tom played it bad on nearly every street, not much else to say there. The most interesting part was Doug's raise on the flop with the K8s with the backdoor which is actually really high-level. Doug has all the KJ in range, all J8s, a lot of J8o, and all the two-pair combos in range so he has nutted hands barring sets. Issue for Doug is he has to check-raise those hands but he should just call most lone J hands that would otherwise balance his range, so what bluffs can he have? Bad straight draws that have good equity but want to steal the pot now or be forced to fold. K8s with the backdoor fits the bill perfectly, it blocks KJ and J8 and wants to win right now and doesn't care about being re-raised because it's a simple fold. If players don't think he's got this in range then he's printing money when a heart lands on the turn and he barrels not to mention the times he simply outdraws a hand like QT that Peter has.
You wouldn't know high level if you fell from there
@@smrriles5668 😁
lol what are you on
So how is this the end of tom dwan?
Tom hopefully built himself a bunker somewhere he gonna be owing some major makeup
Hey, Jonathan. What are you doing? Saying he has the second nuts? I know I'm not a professional by any stretch. But isn't there like?
6 full houses and one bigger straight? I'm just saying
He said flopped 2nd nuts, which yeah he flopped the 2nd nuts. (It obviously wasn't 2nd nuts by the river)
Here I thought you could only get 1/2 dollar stakes to donk it off on the river when it's obvious I have the nuts. Turns out even the best do it. Go figure.
Tom is actually fish who cant make folds. It's been a long time😅
Tom has to go all in on the turn no confidence 😅😊😮😢
Does Tom ever make the right decision?
Love your videos, but Dwan is trying to be in as many pots as he can exactly in this scenario. Is Dwan done? No, is he too loose yes. In these cash games you don’t play optimal everyhand, it’s easy to pick and choose and you of all should know this. Mtts different than cash. Keep the videos up though this just seems result oriented and yes obv Dwan isn’t playing “GTO” in a cash game where it’s 1/10th the stakes he normally plays.
Also don’t see any videos being made of my favorite player Alex Keating? Why? Cause he has his strategy and it’s not like all the elite mtt regs. He understands high level and exploits it. (Keating) Tom on the other hand I think is trying to do the same just 1 hand in a vacuum of 20-30k/year hands he plays.
Are you saying he usually plays in games bigger than 1 million buy-in? I doubt that.
Yes he would have called...
Tom is the smartest person at that table
what that really a "little bit" of a slow roll??
Peter would have called because it's Dwan who would bluff just as easily as have it.
It'd easy to put opponent on exactly what he had! Makes perfect sense, but Peter didn't get too greedy laid a great price. If he had made an overbet then Tom ineta folds. Can't blame him.callimg with prove being laid
If Tom calls on the flop (should have raised Big or jam, if someone has the nuts on the flop with a J blocker, then so be it). Now with a complete blank on the turn, Tom should have definitely bet big. Now that the river paired, tough but how do you fold? I mean it's PETER for God's sake, he always has it! These people try to trap each other too much.
Shove for like 1000big blinds? Great strategy! No, tom obviously needs to check the turn because Doug raised the turn lol. It would make no sense to lead on a blank turn!
I think he wold have called a blank given the pot odds
These people play worse than the beginners...😂😂😂 Can't wait to play with y'all 💪🏼
This footage is from a few months ago