I appreciate the return to the MAX 10K with the tweaks and optimization. No need to change your opinion, but definitely presented a more complete picture.
Don’t let companies or consumers try to persuade you to tell them what they want to hear. You guys give honest reviews and if people can’t accept it then it’s their problem.
Any chance to see the fitted g430 max vs the fitted g430 max 10k? A lot of us who overdraw would like to see if the toe side weight might be an advantage vs the 10k without one! Great video!
I really like the adjustable weight vs the fixed on the 10K. Toe side weight, De loft a degree and adjust to the F minus for a 3 degree flatter lie and you really un hook the 430 max. Less options on the 10K, even though it is clearly a sweet driver. I just got a clearance 425 Max because I just don't think the 430max or 10K max are worth the extra $200. Once that 430 Max goes on discount, I think it is the clear winner over the 10K for now. But all this is being said without hitting either of the 430s.
Ian going back to a ping driver?! With results like that, I don’t think an extra 5 yards is worth sacrificing the ease and consistency of this one. Great spin numbers. Even thin fades under 2900. Incredible.
The TM not going in Ian’s bag anytime soon but the Ping looked like a good set up. The TM very spinny for a club at 7.5* with a good player attached to it. Wasn’t particularly straight either.
This is the second serious professional review that I see where, when with all elements equal, the 430Max flies 15 yards longer than the QiMax. Interesting... However, if I am not mistaking, the 10K marketing revolves around MOI, it´d be interesting to see the same comparison with similar mishits all over the club face. Thank you for your outstanding work
If only there were lower lofted head options. Love that you can get an 8 degree TM and turn it down to a 6. The Ping only going down to 7.5 just makes it really tough for those who need the lower loft to choose Ping even if they want to.
I remember buying the G430 Max when it came out, and I got sloppy with it thinking it was an auto pilot driver. It isn't. You still need to deliver the head to the ball well enough to get the most out of off centre hits. I think Ping seen the disappointment in owners that the Max didn't have the carbon crown, and rushed to get this out. When I demo'd the Qi10 against my TSi3, I couldn't believe how high it was going. Lowest was 106ft and the highest was 140ft. My first thought was that people would get done for buying straight off the shelf without a fit.
Well done for listening to the feedback from your viewers on the Ping G430 Max 10k video. While both drivers were impressive, the Ping 10k with the weight change, loft and shaft was amazing for Ian. I would love to see a few more hits over the club face though, let’s give Mikey a go 😂
The only time I’ve ever not cared for a video that you guys (Ian) produced was the initial review of the PING MAX 10K. I am happy that you decided to go back and do it justice by attempting to make it work (like you should for all new club reviews I mean you are club “fitters” for crying out loud!). Nevertheless, in the end it might not be THE club that goes in your bag but with a couple more tweaks it’s going to be close. Especially after you get frustrated when you aren’t hitting more fairways later this season with whatever lower spinning concoction you come up with 😂 That being said, keep teeing it high but just hit down on it a little more like you do with the lower tee height. Don’t be afraid to put a couple idiot marks on the top of that thing! Once you do, you know that you’ll knock another 200-300 rpm’s off and when that happens it’s going to be real hard to not put out in your bag.
I got fitted 2 weeks ago at a club champion near me and the ping was hands down the best for me. I just couldn’t get on with the TM even though I loved the look.
With all do respect, glad you revisited these drivers but I am certain that neither driver was meant to fit Ian. I think these drivers would shine with an individual hunting for strike and slower in swing speed(90-105 mph range). I think that is a more definitive fitting, 430max vs max10k with the described individual, perfect world though. Enjoyed it.
I played g400 max for 4 years through 3 different heads. Best driver I’ve ever hit, always produced low spin for me. Really excited to hit this new one.
I just struggle to find how much of a jump the Ping 10k could be versus the LST. I have hit them both, and own the LST and did not see enough in it to warrant a change. The LST is a big enough head on it's own. The 10k looked huge. It is a great club, as well as is the standard Qi10. I think that the standard Qi10 is the sweet spot there for TM.
GUYS… all with love MIKEY WELL DONE !! FORGET YOUR GOLF YOU LOOK SO… GOOD IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA NOW, its really a pleasure to watch!! Also mikey your swing looks good but hey it was never bad. Keep going going guys love it!!
Show us more of that Callaway Ai Smoke Max D please lads. Every reviewer is saying how well it works at what it’s meant to do. There’s a hell of a lot of us out here who would LOVE to eliminate the right side of the golf course and hit draws!
If you've seen a bunch of reviewers saying the same thing about the product, and it's what you want, seems like you should test it for yourself! These two do not have a right miss, and nothing they show you in a test will be helpful, apart from hearing them say what you've heard elsewhere.
What they showed me in the initial test of it was very helpful actually. And id love to see them go into more detail about the club, as they cover a lot more than any reviewer on TH-cam. Thanks for the advice tho 👍🏻
Great test guys and getting the New Year off to a good start. I’m going down to see Joe and Dane once they get all the new gear in and hopefully get a new driver, wedges and a putter sorted out. Loving my irons I got fit for last year and excited for the season ahead. Hopefully you got plenty more head to heads before try all the new products.
Great review. I am thinking that the 430 Max being cheaper is the choice of the Pings. Cannot wait for the Black Ops. I am currently in the 425 max. Maybe I need to get fit into my own driver to get the max out of it. The cost to upgrade could fund a different shaft.
From your initial testing, and others, it seems like the Ping 10K is about the perfect driver for me (have not yet tested, so TBD). As forgiving, or more, than the 430 Max and lower spin. I can't wait to get a fit to see how it comes out.
Honest video! My conclusion which validates my longtime overall thinking is that purchasing a driver without going through a proper fitting is a complete gamble. Unfortunately, there aren’t many qualified fitters around. And while I expect pushback on what I just stated, that’s the reality I’ve encountered over the last 15 years. I either go down to 2nd swing in Columbia to see Kevin Kraft or would have to fly up to Toronto and see Ian. Every other fitter I’ve interacted with can apply a methodology to get you to optimal numbers if you turn out to be a run of the mill Subject. If you are a special case, you are screwed. They won’t be able to figure it out. A perfect example was Ian’s 10 hdc fitting a couple day’s ago where very early on in the fitting Ian went from T150 to T100 and went to a much heavier shaft completely against what the methodology would call for. Now that’s art!! And most filters are no artists!!
Tested these both. I have a negative 4-5 aoa. These both spin in the perfect window for me (2700ish spin. My ball speed and efficiency and distance (slightly) was better w tm. But dispersion was a bit better with ping.
Would be interesting to see which technology is more forgiving, the AI face or the 10K MOI. They both aim for better results on off-center hits but in completely different ways. So a test comparing one of the 10K's to the Paradym AI Smoke would be very interesting.
According to Ping’s website they offer a 2nd 10k model, the 430 Max 10k HL utilizing a 19 gram weight in the back with a 45 gram weight range in the shaft; intended players are those with slower swing speeds primarily. Do you think this HL version is really 10k? Just the comparison I was wanting to see, thank you guys.
This was the review I wanted to see, awesome video! Edit: I did a fitting for the Ping 10k and it out performed my G430 Max in control, forgiveness and slightly longer (it had more roll out overall and like 2 yards of carry more on average). I ordered one and really looking forward to getting my hands on it on the course!
@@thebrownviking9523 Neeeeeeever said they were the same! Or that 10k performs identically. Otherwise I'd have said G400 Max, G425 Max, G430 10k Max, and Qi10 Max were all interchangeable! I'm pointing out that it's hilarious that they are trying to say 10k MOI is somehow a new accomplishment for driver heads.
Thanks - saw some reviews that said the G430Max fits in as the newer tech LST. Did you see that? The spin rates seem fairly though in your testing and I swap between a G410LST and a TSR4 to help reduce spin myself.
Good review, the QI10 max is super spinny. The ping max 10k has been averaging 300-400 rpm less spin in the vast majority of reviews, which was what TM was trying to do but couldn't. Well done ping. I'm a TM sim max player and disappointed with the carbon and that's why I haven't switched to their newer stuff. I hope they go away from carbon. If i switched, TSR probably.
Cobra has a tour length club at 44.5" which features additional head weight. If you made the Ping G425-430 max 10k heads all being around 10k how much weight can you add to the head for swing weight without making the driver illegal? Only MOI limit I can find is 5800 with a tolerance to 6000 which refers to the horizontal axis only not combined horizontal and vertical axis which is what Ping and Taylormade are marketing.
Two Q. 1 Did Foresight tweak their software in terms of Smash? Seems like a lot more 1.47 vs previously 1.45 was realistic max. 2. Your strikes are overall low and you are getting 1.46-1.47 smash. Is that MOI? if so both did great at keeping ball speed high. TM smash was on average 1.46 and Ping was 1.46 To me at the end of the day high MOI is high smash from a bad strike
Question on the Ping would a little higher Tee get the Ball more in the Center? Just a Thought. With all these Crazy Driver Coming Out and you being a Club Fitting Shop. How about Mike take Each Driver and set each one to his Swing and get the Perfect Loft ,Perfect Launch and last Perfect Spin . Then Do a Head To Head to find the Right Best Driver? Maybe use only Two Shaft for these Driver Heads to be Number One? Thanks. Sorry Ian I miss the lefty
I would like to see a 16 hcp 100mph swing speed player test out these two clubs. I'm sure they are aimed at this type of player. But still a great video.
So it's longer and straighter than this year's callaway lineup based off of your reviews. Wow. If yiu changed the weight and shaft in the LST would it be longer than this?
When you guys review the PXG driver can you also hit a few shots with an extra 5g of weight in the head, to get up to the 10k on that head (the standard version, not the tour model). I would also love to see a comparison of Black Ops hybrid vs. last years Gen6 (reg and XF), if you have those kicking around still. I really wonder if the the Black Ops hybrid launches as high as the Gen6 XF. Thanks for the review today!
Better go tell Colin Morikawa he's playing a band-aid driver 😂 wouldn't be surprised if a ton of good players and LPGA players end up with the MAX models.
Why would you NOT want it to be automatic? If you can achieve similar launch and carry characteristics with the G430 Max, but the dispersion is wider, why wouldn't you play the G430 10K?
Why can't Ian hit the middle/middle high part of the club face? These were all thin on the leading edge of the face. The one PING he middled was 330 yards. See 6:28 and note the red impact mark was finally near the center = 330 yards and his longest and straightest shot. But then he went back to hitting the leading edge (17mm low of center impact)
@@clubchampionmedia is that an Ian thing or is that a function of this driver having a unique cog/high MOI/tail weight? Because that tendency of yours seems unique to these high MOI heads. Thank you.
Nope, doesn't change anything for me. These might be the best option for someone buying "off the shelf" clubs, but a properly fitted drive will optimise outcomes regardless of whether it is "the most forgiving" or "the longest" or "the lowest spin", etc. You want the best driver? Get fitted for the best driver for you. See? I've been listening 😉.
I appreciate the return to the MAX 10K with the tweaks and optimization. No need to change your opinion, but definitely presented a more complete picture.
Really impressed with the spin at 2700 on thin strikes on the Ping. That’s pretty incredible.
Don’t let companies or consumers try to persuade you to tell them what they want to hear. You guys give honest reviews and if people can’t accept it then it’s their problem.
Any chance to see the fitted g430 max vs the fitted g430 max 10k? A lot of us who overdraw would like to see if the toe side weight might be an advantage vs the 10k without one! Great video!
And while you are at it, toe side weight for Ian and heel side for Mikey!
I really like the adjustable weight vs the fixed on the 10K. Toe side weight, De loft a degree and adjust to the F minus for a 3 degree flatter lie and you really un hook the 430 max. Less options on the 10K, even though it is clearly a sweet driver. I just got a clearance 425 Max because I just don't think the 430max or 10K max are worth the extra $200. Once that 430 Max goes on discount, I think it is the clear winner over the 10K for now. But all this is being said without hitting either of the 430s.
Ian going back to a ping driver?! With results like that, I don’t think an extra 5 yards is worth sacrificing the ease and consistency of this one. Great spin numbers. Even thin fades under 2900. Incredible.
The TM not going in Ian’s bag anytime soon but the Ping looked like a good set up. The TM very spinny for a club at 7.5* with a good player attached to it. Wasn’t particularly straight either.
This is the second serious professional review that I see where, when with all elements equal, the 430Max flies 15 yards longer than the QiMax. Interesting... However, if I am not mistaking, the 10K marketing revolves around MOI, it´d be interesting to see the same comparison with similar mishits all over the club face. Thank you for your outstanding work
Excited to see you guys check out the new PXG driver. ⛳️
With taxes it’s over $900 in Canada. 😮
INSANE!!
Yup - things are getting nuts up here.
4th head to head i’ve seen where the Ping absolutely dominates the TM! Not even close. Way to go Ping. Now they just need to drop the price $100 ;)
If only there were lower lofted head options. Love that you can get an 8 degree TM and turn it down to a 6. The Ping only going down to 7.5 just makes it really tough for those who need the lower loft to choose Ping even if they want to.
Does the leftsided adapter trick not work with ping?
@@Warp33no the Ping adapter is symmetrical. It has equal amount of adjustability on either side of the sleeve.
Doesn’t Ping still digitally loft at your request for a small cost? That’s an option if getting fit for a Ping driver.
6 degree having a 🦒
I wonder what the MOI was with the 22g? Assuming it's 10k at 28g, would 22g drop it to 9800, 9700, 9600? Great video as always...
Thanks for revisiting the topic of the max forgiveness drivers. Definitely a better showing with the fitted drivers at more appropriate lofts.
Wow. Very impressed with the Ping. 20 yard difference and very consistent!
Hi Ian can we do a comparison between G430 max 10k vs G400 max which is said to be the first 10k driver ever launched. Love your content
Let’s go boys!! Keep these videos coming. Watch you guys on the daily.
🙌🏻
I play Titleist because it's easy to avoid temptation with that in the bag for me. Never thought ping would be the brand to make me consider switching
I remember buying the G430 Max when it came out, and I got sloppy with it thinking it was an auto pilot driver. It isn't. You still need to deliver the head to the ball well enough to get the most out of off centre hits. I think Ping seen the disappointment in owners that the Max didn't have the carbon crown, and rushed to get this out. When I demo'd the Qi10 against my TSi3, I couldn't believe how high it was going. Lowest was 106ft and the highest was 140ft. My first thought was that people would get done for buying straight off the shelf without a fit.
Well done for listening to the feedback from your viewers on the Ping G430 Max 10k video. While both drivers were impressive, the Ping 10k with the weight change, loft and shaft was amazing for Ian. I would love to see a few more hits over the club face though, let’s give Mikey a go 😂
We're for the people, thanks for noticing!
The only time I’ve ever not cared for a video that you guys (Ian) produced was the initial review of the PING MAX 10K.
I am happy that you decided to go back and do it justice by attempting to make it work (like you should for all new club reviews I mean you are club “fitters” for crying out loud!).
Nevertheless, in the end it might not be THE club that goes in your bag but with a couple more tweaks it’s going to be close. Especially after you get frustrated when you aren’t hitting more fairways later this season with whatever lower spinning concoction you come up with 😂
That being said, keep teeing it high but just hit down on it a little more like you do with the lower tee height.
Don’t be afraid to put a couple idiot marks on the top of that thing!
Once you do, you know that you’ll knock another 200-300 rpm’s off and when that happens it’s going to be real hard to not put out in your bag.
I play the Epic Max from 4 years ago. Seems a fitting could improve my distance and most importantly, the dispersion.
I got fitted 2 weeks ago at a club champion near me and the ping was hands down the best for me. I just couldn’t get on with the TM even though I loved the look.
With all do respect, glad you revisited these drivers but I am certain that neither driver was meant to fit Ian. I think these drivers would shine with an individual hunting for strike and slower in swing speed(90-105 mph range). I think that is a more definitive fitting, 430max vs max10k with the described individual, perfect world though. Enjoyed it.
…OR as Ian stated, they are just duds.
Please do a clip using the TSR line vs. the new models that just came out. 🙏🏻
TSR line is the gold standard
This was a great vid - seeing 10K vs 10K in a fitted head/shaft combo shows where the gains may arise. Nice one lads
Prove it, Ian. Ping Max vs 10k!!
I played g400 max for 4 years through 3 different heads. Best driver I’ve ever hit, always produced low spin for me. Really excited to hit this new one.
I came from a ping g425 max to the qi10 max and it’s amazing! I did try the 430 max 10k and I just wasn’t the biggest fan of it. And I love ping!
I just struggle to find how much of a jump the Ping 10k could be versus the LST. I have hit them both, and own the LST and did not see enough in it to warrant a change. The LST is a big enough head on it's own. The 10k looked huge. It is a great club, as well as is the standard Qi10. I think that the standard Qi10 is the sweet spot there for TM.
GUYS… all with love MIKEY WELL DONE !! FORGET YOUR GOLF YOU LOOK SO… GOOD IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA NOW, its really a pleasure to watch!! Also mikey your swing looks good but hey it was never bad. Keep going going guys love it!!
I think taking the weight down for Ping driver heads works across multiple generations. Great video 👍
Show us more of that Callaway Ai Smoke Max D please lads. Every reviewer is saying how well it works at what it’s meant to do. There’s a hell of a lot of us out here who would LOVE to eliminate the right side of the golf course and hit draws!
If you've seen a bunch of reviewers saying the same thing about the product, and it's what you want, seems like you should test it for yourself! These two do not have a right miss, and nothing they show you in a test will be helpful, apart from hearing them say what you've heard elsewhere.
What they showed me in the initial test of it was very helpful actually. And id love to see them go into more detail about the club, as they cover a lot more than any reviewer on TH-cam. Thanks for the advice tho 👍🏻
Would love to see this comparison against the PXG Black Ops
I just hit the qi10 max today and really liked it. Wondering if it's worth going to test the ping
Great test guys and getting the New Year off to a good start. I’m going down to see Joe and Dane once they get all the new gear in and hopefully get a new driver, wedges and a putter sorted out. Loving my irons I got fit for last year and excited for the season ahead. Hopefully you got plenty more head to heads before try all the new products.
Great comeback guys, this was awesome!
The most telling part of this video is that dispersion and Mikey saying Aye... Big changes all around 😂
Great review. I am thinking that the 430 Max being cheaper is the choice of the Pings. Cannot wait for the Black Ops. I am currently in the 425 max. Maybe I need to get fit into my own driver to get the max out of it. The cost to upgrade could fund a different shaft.
From your initial testing, and others, it seems like the Ping 10K is about the perfect driver for me (have not yet tested, so TBD). As forgiving, or more, than the 430 Max and lower spin. I can't wait to get a fit to see how it comes out.
I also wish you did my lateral strike locations to see which one is better. The strike locations were just vertical.
Honest video! My conclusion which validates my longtime overall thinking is that purchasing a driver without going through a proper fitting is a complete gamble.
Unfortunately, there aren’t many qualified fitters around. And while I expect pushback on what I just stated, that’s the reality I’ve encountered over the last 15 years.
I either go down to 2nd swing in Columbia to see Kevin Kraft or would have to fly up to Toronto and see Ian.
Every other fitter I’ve interacted with can apply a methodology to get you to optimal numbers if you turn out to be a run of the mill
Subject. If you are a special case, you are screwed. They won’t be able to figure it out. A perfect example was Ian’s 10 hdc fitting a couple day’s ago where very early on in the fitting Ian went from T150 to T100 and went to a much heavier shaft completely against what the methodology would call for. Now that’s art!! And most filters are no artists!!
Head to heads already! Love it!
Tested these both. I have a negative 4-5 aoa. These both spin in the perfect window for me (2700ish spin. My ball speed and efficiency and distance (slightly) was better w tm. But dispersion was a bit better with ping.
Would also like to see the new Paradigm Smoke added to this challenge
i’d love to see a video comparing g400 max to the 10k max
So would I as my current driver is the g400 Max.
My G425 Max vs the 430 10K was about 12 yards more of carry and way tighter dispersion with the 10K.
@@whaleshark2625 interesting. I might have to demo it. The £600 price tag kind of puts me off too.
@@jimwocha4949 the joy of selling old clubs :)
Would love to see a “request and test” of the 10k w/ nemesys shaft
Would be interesting to see which technology is more forgiving, the AI face or the 10K MOI. They both aim for better results on off-center hits but in completely different ways. So a test comparing one of the 10K's to the Paradym AI Smoke would be very interesting.
According to Ping’s website they offer a 2nd 10k model, the 430 Max 10k HL utilizing a 19 gram weight in the back with a 45 gram weight range in the shaft; intended players are those with slower swing speeds primarily. Do you think this HL version is really 10k?
Just the comparison I was wanting to see, thank you guys.
With the lower weight in the back, it’s not 10k anymore.
This was the review I wanted to see, awesome video!
Edit: I did a fitting for the Ping 10k and it out performed my G430 Max in control, forgiveness and slightly longer (it had more roll out overall and like 2 yards of carry more on average). I ordered one and really looking forward to getting my hands on it on the course!
The G425 Max had 10k MOI. And it says as much on the ping website. This year's marketing is hilarious.
Higher spin mate vs G430 MAX 10K, significant difference.
@@thebrownviking9523 Neeeeeeever said they were the same! Or that 10k performs identically. Otherwise I'd have said G400 Max, G425 Max, G430 10k Max, and Qi10 Max were all interchangeable! I'm pointing out that it's hilarious that they are trying to say 10k MOI is somehow a new accomplishment for driver heads.
That ping looks awesome
Thanks - saw some reviews that said the G430Max fits in as the newer tech LST. Did you see that? The spin rates seem fairly though in your testing and I swap between a G410LST and a TSR4 to help reduce spin myself.
can you do this same video with the Ventus(red, blue, black) shafts Smoke, and TSR3?
Guys can you test a Krank!? The one Bryson uses
Ian surely you would get that in the bag. Automatic on a difficult driving hole
Good review, the QI10 max is super spinny. The ping max 10k has been averaging 300-400 rpm less spin in the vast majority of reviews, which was what TM was trying to do but couldn't. Well done ping. I'm a TM sim max player and disappointed with the carbon and that's why I haven't switched to their newer stuff. I hope they go away from carbon. If i switched, TSR probably.
10k is the best driver I have hit all year. Hands down. The more fits I see. The more people are loving it
with the 22 gram wgt. in the 430 10k ping is it still conforming.
Cobra has a tour length club at 44.5" which features additional head weight. If you made the Ping G425-430 max 10k heads all being around 10k how much weight can you add to the head for swing weight without making the driver illegal? Only MOI limit I can find is 5800 with a tolerance to 6000 which refers to the horizontal axis only not combined horizontal and vertical axis which is what Ping and Taylormade are marketing.
I wonder what the Ping G430 Max 10K would do with a lower spin and lower flight golf ball like the Titleist AVX?
I hear the ping's face is shorter. As a lower handicap I wonder if that actually makes it less forgiving than the previous model?
Two Q.
1 Did Foresight tweak their software in terms of Smash? Seems like a lot more 1.47 vs previously 1.45 was realistic max.
2. Your strikes are overall low and you are getting 1.46-1.47 smash. Is that MOI? if so both did great at keeping ball speed high. TM smash was on average 1.46 and Ping was 1.46
To me at the end of the day high MOI is high smash from a bad strike
Could you do this same test but with Ronnie or a avg swing speed hitter? Ian is a bomber…not comparable for us slower swingers
Be honest though. What are you putting in your bag this summer?
What did you do to reduce the weight of the driver weight? did you replace it with another Ping option or did you have it machined? Thanks.
Ian - you’re not usually so low in the head. Is there something about this type of head shaft combo that you feel influenced the low strike?
Question on the Ping would a little higher Tee get the Ball more in the Center? Just a Thought. With all these Crazy Driver Coming Out and you being a Club Fitting Shop. How about Mike take Each Driver and set each one to his Swing and get the Perfect Loft ,Perfect Launch and last Perfect Spin . Then Do a Head To Head to find the Right Best Driver? Maybe use only Two Shaft for these Driver Heads to be Number One? Thanks. Sorry Ian I miss the lefty
That Ping really does feel good
10k with NEMESYS be a nice one to test
Sorry boys too busy being nice to (FAIRWAY KID) but love the banter🤣👍
Is the 430 10k max significantly better than the 430 max?? Forgiveness wise
I would like to see a 16 hcp 100mph swing speed player test out these two clubs. I'm sure they are aimed at this type of player.
But still a great video.
That's me! New Ping 10 going in the bag - averaged 245 carry, 270 total with the Ping Tour 2.0 Black. Awesome shaft!
Curious how my swing speed will compare when I get fitted
Is the Qi10 Max a direct replacement model for the Stelath2 HD or have they abandoned the draw bias model altogether?
So it's longer and straighter than this year's callaway lineup based off of your reviews. Wow.
If yiu changed the weight and shaft in the LST would it be longer than this?
Change in weight on ping made the 10k max like a regular max
Can this be fitted to a 46 in autoflex shaft and get D0 SW ?
I would like to see the G400 max thrown into the mix. It was 10k 8 years ago.
When you guys review the PXG driver can you also hit a few shots with an extra 5g of weight in the head, to get up to the 10k on that head (the standard version, not the tour model). I would also love to see a comparison of Black Ops hybrid vs. last years Gen6 (reg and XF), if you have those kicking around still. I really wonder if the the Black Ops hybrid launches as high as the Gen6 XF. Thanks for the review today!
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Sounds good, I will try and tune in!
What time does it start?
I'm curious to see a black ops v. Ping 10k. People are saying Black Ops is the driver to beat in '24
There’s a new driver sheriff in town and that’s Ping.
Better go tell Colin Morikawa he's playing a band-aid driver 😂 wouldn't be surprised if a ton of good players and LPGA players end up with the MAX models.
Good stuff. Would love to see the pig black ops comparison the to 10k .
Surely changing the back weight defeats the object of the ping driver? And save yourself £50 by just using the normal g430 max ?
Every shot is low on the club, maybe you should tee a little higher?
It does take time to adjust to new tee high, you need to give it more time.
I wanna see the qi10 in the auto flex 🎉
Why would you NOT want it to be automatic? If you can achieve similar launch and carry characteristics with the G430 Max, but the dispersion is wider, why wouldn't you play the G430 10K?
G400 max vs g430 max 10k please. The g400 is 10k too I believe. Thanks
Can you pls put the AI Smoke vs the Ping? Asking for a friend haha
couldnt listen but was the purpose to test the bottom each club?
Why can't Ian hit the middle/middle high part of the club face? These were all thin on the leading edge of the face. The one PING he middled was 330 yards. See 6:28 and note the red impact mark was finally near the center = 330 yards and his longest and straightest shot. But then he went back to hitting the leading edge (17mm low of center impact)
My Angle of Attack is currently too high
@@clubchampionmedia is that an Ian thing or is that a function of this driver having a unique cog/high MOI/tail weight? Because that tendency of yours seems unique to these high MOI heads. Thank you.
Hey guys I’m game Mizuno Stz 230 limited white ed driver it’s good but I just got offered the ping g430 max 10k should I do the swap???
you need a slower swing player to try these out. Someone around 95-100. Maybe Mikey can slow his swing a little.
why is contact so low on the face...my Ping g400 likes it high huge power boost
Ian, with all your 10K testing results, go straight to Florida and get all the Skin Games possible
Spin numbers seem all over the place with both clubs.
yeah...but why 7.5 loft? who uses that, not the general public. I use 9 degrees. You should test them at 9 to 10.5
Nope, doesn't change anything for me. These might be the best option for someone buying "off the shelf" clubs, but a properly fitted drive will optimise outcomes regardless of whether it is "the most forgiving" or "the longest" or "the lowest spin", etc. You want the best driver? Get fitted for the best driver for you. See? I've been listening 😉.
That’s for the PING
Welp....in this test, PING is KING!
compare to a ping G400 MAX the OG 10k
Why loft at 7.5 degrees not representative of average golfer so how can any opinion be expressed