Notes, technical stuff: Yeah, it's very scratchy sounding. It's one of the quietest soundtracks on the Genesis. When it's played back on a YM2612, the "ladder noise" bug actually eats into it, which is why it's scratchy and inarticulate--when the envelopes open and close they drag out in a distorted mess. Since it's also closer to the (unavoidable) noise floor, it's literally noisier too. I probably should have recorded this on the Genesis 3, it sounds marginally better on there...
@@wilddogtc2058 I don't think so. It does sound a bit cleaner on them, but typically games that are louder sound better, due to the way the built in DAC works. That's true of both chips. I really don't know the reason.
@@DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL Low volume soundtracks do indeed sound worse. The YM2612 itself of course has the DAC distortion bug as you mentioned, but the chips also output at 9bit due to the internal DAC (and the output is dithered, thus more noise). That means the YM2612 is essentially doubly noisy, and while the DAC distortion was fixed on the YM3438, it's still 9bit, so still noisy. The only true clean OPN2 series chip is the YMF276 (OPN2-L used in the FM Towns 2) which is using an external DAC instead, so it outputs as clean as the other FM chips.
@@ChiptunedRaijin Thanks for the info! I swear that the DACs must not be linear either, even the 3438 sounds worse at low volumes, like the "steps" are bigger on the DAC "ladder" (if you know what I mean)
This game brings tears to my eyes cause my late mom bought this for me in 1994 starting my first year in high school she also bought me the movie too as well may she continue to rest in paradise aww 😢
This channel has been absolutely crucial for my studying this month. SOR2 and Shinobi in particular, no surprise there. The Genesis sound chip remains one of my all-time favorite synthesizers.
No way! A new video!?! 🥳 I was listening to your 8 years old THUNDER FORCE III playlist just a few hours ago! 😅 Thank you for the great work! (Despite that one specific port being a major disappointment...)
It's interesting how it seems to sound better mixed on real hardware in general, not just with the PSG. You can actually hear the pianos in Deejay's track here!
Hi, I've been looking for the soundtrack for this game. The sound quality is of the original hardware as you uploaded it, not like others who upload it in emulation quality. Greetings from México.
This game brings back so many memories! I remember renting this game a few times in 1994 and 1995, before I actually owned it!!! The graphics are way different from the SNES version!
I never understood how Capcom could screw this stuff up so bad. I mean the fan community has been able to really approve these titles. But gosh darn, Capcom really dropped the ball compared to other devs on the system. And they had experience with this kind of Arcade sound hardware setups. :( .
Capcom not even with the YM2151 more PCM were able to create something truly good beyond SF2, just listen to Captain Comando from CPS1 and you'll realize that it sounds worse than many Genesis games.
The theory is that Capcom had to go with something different for SSFII on the Mega Drive seeing as their arcade original version used CPS-2 sound hardware (much like the SNES). The Mega Drive/Genesis couldn't do MIDI and they didn't want to just cut and paste the exact same soundtrack from ''Special Champion Edition'' so what were they supposed to do? They made a different sounding FM ost for this game to make up for not being able to use CPS-2. Most people would agree it's a more abrasive sounding soundtrack but it got the job done and I do prefer the bass guitar in this one over Special Champion Edition's. Much like Dustin's criticism, this would sound better if it wasn't so quiet.
With the proper filtering and FM synthesis of original hardware, it sounds a lot better to my ears. Less crunchy and clearer as a result than when (badly) emulated.
@@ZoeMalDoran Nah, I specifically remember getting it when it was brand new. It was $69.99(which is $140 in 2023). Huge money back then. I think most new games were between $30-50. It's also the single largest game ever released on the Genesis.
@@TIGFAD 98% sure it wasn't that kind of stupid-expensive here... I mean if it was twice as much as all the other games, I doubt my mum would've bought it for us
I remember I bought the SNES version of Super SF2 at Blockbuster Video new the Xmas it was released. Capcom must have made way too many, I think the price was only $15-$20. The local Blockbuster did major clearances on new factory sealed games, definitely not former rentals.
The Nintendo fanboys have already arrived to trash the sound of the Genesis, the sound of this port as the previous one did too much damage to the reputation of the sound of the Genesis (And also to its colors), mostly due to the low quality in the PCM and how simple this sounds, that's why I will always have an irrational hatred for those ports.
It happens the same when there is a bad sounding Snes game. But i have to say even if this soundtrack doesn´t sound as good as the Snes. There are some tracks that are not as bad sounding. Ryu´s Stage, Fei Long´s, T Hawk´s and Balrog´s are pretty decent actually.
@@WhiteStars12I see what he means. Whilst this versions of Guile's theme is thin, dry and piercing, it still manages to be quite emotionally expressive.
Hey, DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL. I have some suggestions for Sega Genesis soundtracks you should upload in future videos. Suggestions: Golden Axe (original) Golden Axe III Pulseman Mega Man: The Wily Wars
Man what a disappointment this conversion was. Oh well, at least T. Hawk, Cammy, and Fei Long's themes still sound pretty good here. Zangief's could have been better if the melody wasn't so scratchy
@@camulodunon I was specifically taking a stab at the OP's literally tone-deaf compliment towards the music modifications in Lord Hiryu's color restoration patch.
Probably the new characters and levels lmao. They put more priority into the spritework and the colors still look bad. But that's Capcom for ya I feel bad for the people who bought thinking this would be better than Champion Edition
I imagine that at some stage of the game's development they realized that the 32 Mbit game on Snes wouldn't fit on a 32 Mbit cartridge on Genesis. So someone came up with the idea of adding a mapper to increase the space in rom and thus incorporate all the graphics and sounds of the Snes version, but now they had more unused rom space, so they decided to fill that space with some extra graphics for the character´s endings, and a little more animation for the game´s intro.
its obviously not a bad soundtrack, but man what a letdown compared to the excellent music of its predecessor on genesis. which i still consider the overall best version of the music.
![[SEGA Genesis Music] Street Fighter II: SCE - Full Original Soundtrack OST](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/51cEDCcfLAo/mqdefault.jpg)
![[SEGA Genesis Music] Herzog Zwei - Full Original Soundtrack OST](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w_PLmXBrNQw/mqdefault.jpg)
![[SEGA Genesis Music] Road Rash II - Full Original Soundtrack OST](/img/n.gif)
Notes, technical stuff: Yeah, it's very scratchy sounding. It's one of the quietest soundtracks on the Genesis. When it's played back on a YM2612, the "ladder noise" bug actually eats into it, which is why it's scratchy and inarticulate--when the envelopes open and close they drag out in a distorted mess. Since it's also closer to the (unavoidable) noise floor, it's literally noisier too. I probably should have recorded this on the Genesis 3, it sounds marginally better on there...
Is it quieter to make it sound better on YM3438 MDs?
@@wilddogtc2058 I don't think so. It does sound a bit cleaner on them, but typically games that are louder sound better, due to the way the built in DAC works. That's true of both chips. I really don't know the reason.
Good to see the channel is still going!
@@DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL Low volume soundtracks do indeed sound worse. The YM2612 itself of course has the DAC distortion bug as you mentioned, but the chips also output at 9bit due to the internal DAC (and the output is dithered, thus more noise). That means the YM2612 is essentially doubly noisy, and while the DAC distortion was fixed on the YM3438, it's still 9bit, so still noisy.
The only true clean OPN2 series chip is the YMF276 (OPN2-L used in the FM Towns 2) which is using an external DAC instead, so it outputs as clean as the other FM chips.
@@ChiptunedRaijin Thanks for the info! I swear that the DACs must not be linear either, even the 3438 sounds worse at low volumes, like the "steps" are bigger on the DAC "ladder" (if you know what I mean)
This game brings tears to my eyes cause my late mom bought this for me in 1994 starting my first year in high school she also bought me the movie too as well may she continue to rest in paradise aww 😢
Wow I love playing dis in sega version I was 5 when they released it in late 1994
Rip 🙏
@@tony202931 thank you
Sorry for your loss
This is the version i grew up with. So it's very dear to me.
don't you guys just love the cover for this game,? I love that you only see their shadows...badass
This channel has been absolutely crucial for my studying this month. SOR2 and Shinobi in particular, no surprise there. The Genesis sound chip remains one of my all-time favorite synthesizers.
No way! A new video!?! 🥳
I was listening to your 8 years old THUNDER FORCE III playlist just a few hours ago! 😅
Thank you for the great work!
(Despite that one specific port being a major disappointment...)
It's interesting how it seems to sound better mixed on real hardware in general, not just with the PSG. You can actually hear the pianos in Deejay's track here!
Ken's theme is an absolute banger
no
@@LavaCreeperPeople yes
Hi, I've been looking for the soundtrack for this game. The sound quality is of the original hardware as you uploaded it, not like others who upload it in emulation quality. Greetings from México.
This game brings back so many memories! I remember renting this game a few times in 1994 and 1995, before I actually owned it!!! The graphics are way different from the SNES version!
I never understood how Capcom could screw this stuff up so bad. I mean the fan community has been able to really approve these titles. But gosh darn, Capcom really dropped the ball compared to other devs on the system. And they had experience with this kind of Arcade sound hardware setups. :( .
Capcom not even with the YM2151 more PCM were able to create something truly good beyond SF2, just listen to Captain Comando from CPS1 and you'll realize that it sounds worse than many Genesis games.
The theory is that Capcom had to go with something different for SSFII on the Mega Drive seeing as their arcade original version used CPS-2 sound hardware (much like the SNES). The Mega Drive/Genesis couldn't do MIDI and they didn't want to just cut and paste the exact same soundtrack from ''Special Champion Edition'' so what were they supposed to do? They made a different sounding FM ost for this game to make up for not being able to use CPS-2. Most people would agree it's a more abrasive sounding soundtrack but it got the job done and I do prefer the bass guitar in this one over Special Champion Edition's. Much like Dustin's criticism, this would sound better if it wasn't so quiet.
for real.
@@Oysterblade84its genre of music on Sf4 with limited hardware. Sf4 born because ssf2 genesis.
The nostalgia just hits ya I played the hell outa this as a young teen surprised my mega drive never dies 😅
I simply love this soundtrack version, more simple. R.I.P. Mick McGinty 😢😢😢😢
SSF2 Genesis on real hardware
freakin finally
With the proper filtering and FM synthesis of original hardware, it sounds a lot better to my ears. Less crunchy and clearer as a result than when (badly) emulated.
Ah, this brings back memories. It was the first fighting game my brother & had for the Mega Drive when we were kids
Was it expensive?
@@camulodunon pretty sure it was the same sort of price as all the games were in the 90s
@@ZoeMalDoran Nah, I specifically remember getting it when it was brand new. It was $69.99(which is $140 in 2023). Huge money back then. I think most new games were between $30-50. It's also the single largest game ever released on the Genesis.
@@TIGFAD 98% sure it wasn't that kind of stupid-expensive here... I mean if it was twice as much as all the other games, I doubt my mum would've bought it for us
I remember I bought the SNES version of Super SF2 at Blockbuster Video new the Xmas it was released. Capcom must have made way too many, I think the price was only $15-$20. The local Blockbuster did major clearances on new factory sealed games, definitely not former rentals.
Thank you for this upload! I love SF2!
The Nintendo fanboys have already arrived to trash the sound of the Genesis, the sound of this port as the previous one did too much damage to the reputation of the sound of the Genesis (And also to its colors), mostly due to the low quality in the PCM and how simple this sounds, that's why I will always have an irrational hatred for those ports.
It happens the same when there is a bad sounding Snes game. But i have to say even if this soundtrack doesn´t sound as good as the Snes. There are some tracks that are not as bad sounding. Ryu´s Stage, Fei Long´s, T Hawk´s and Balrog´s are pretty decent actually.
Awful soundtrack, along with the super street fighter ii snes one as well. Listen to the original street fighter ii snes version instead
Guile's theme in this one it the best version.. tears me up everytime....
I really hope this is sarcasm
@@WhiteStars12I see what he means. Whilst this versions of Guile's theme is thin, dry and piercing, it still manages to be quite emotionally expressive.
nice Soundtrack.
no
@@LavaCreeperPeople yes
People base their opinions on this port based on emulators which can't capture how it's actually like on real hardware.
Hey, DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL. I have some suggestions for Sega Genesis soundtracks you should upload in future videos.
Suggestions:
Golden Axe (original)
Golden Axe III
Pulseman
Mega Man: The Wily Wars
Man what a disappointment this conversion was. Oh well, at least T. Hawk, Cammy, and Fei Long's themes still sound pretty good here. Zangief's could have been better if the melody wasn't so scratchy
Zangief, no FM6 th-cam.com/video/DbHEUqChg9U/w-d-xo.html
Rolling thunder 3 please!
I prefer Lord Hiryu's version that improves the sound, at least Cammy's theme is decent :)
Hopefully a dumped version of that version.
Ah yes, I absolutely *love* it when the bass is played an octave higher than it should!
@@jonespianist3189 :V
@@jonespianist3189honestly the bass in cammy's theme here is totally fine.
@@camulodunon I was specifically taking a stab at the OP's literally tone-deaf compliment towards the music modifications in Lord Hiryu's color restoration patch.
@@jonespianist3189 oh yeah that, I thought you were talking about the bass in Cammy's theme here.
This version of Bison's theme = french music :P
Why was this version 40 megabits?
Probably the new characters and levels lmao. They put more priority into the spritework and the colors still look bad. But that's Capcom for ya
I feel bad for the people who bought thinking this would be better than Champion Edition
I imagine that at some stage of the game's development they realized that the 32 Mbit game on Snes wouldn't fit on a 32 Mbit cartridge on Genesis. So someone came up with the idea of adding a mapper to increase the space in rom and thus incorporate all the graphics and sounds of the Snes version, but now they had more unused rom space, so they decided to fill that space with some extra graphics for the character´s endings, and a little more animation for the game´s intro.
@@maxesreal the colors aren't bad. Not as good as it could've been, but the game still looks great overall, even without any hacks.
Guile theme is pretty decent here. Everything else..... oof
its obviously not a bad soundtrack, but man what a letdown compared to the excellent music of its predecessor on genesis. which i still consider the overall best version of the music.
This specific port of Super Street Fighter II gets a lot of pushback for the scratchy voice samples.
Awful soundtrack, along with the super street fighter ii snes one as well. Listen to the original street fighter ii snes version instead
Yeah, I still prefer this over the SNES one. Warts and all.
Lol classic worse genesis music 😂
....Yeah I agree, *this is worse* than the original Genesis SF2 soundtrack ;)
@camulodunon could be worse like tmnt tournament fighters where both the gameplay and music are crap on genesis.
@@MrVariant You kidding? TMNT Genesis soundtrack awesome.
@camulodunon you don't think snes was better? Raphael Cafeteria, rat king studio 6 and Michelangelo sky palace were my favorites.
@@MrVariant ok whatever have a good day :)