Exhaust Pipe Size & Custom Exhaust Tips | Summit Racing Quick Flicks
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- Watch this installment of Summit Racing Quick Flicks, as we discuss Exhaust Pipe sizing. To custom build your own exhaust pipe system, it is important to understand the sizing components of exhaust piping, mufflers and collector reducers.
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A slight increase such as 2.25” will work out just fine! Going too large will actually slow exhaust flow due to the extra surface area inside the pipe and hamper the scavenging effect.
As you explained very clearly, the role of the #exhaustclamp is to connect two pipes together. There are many varieties, such as v-shaped, u-shaped, o-shaped, variable diameter, strong and so on, And different sizes, different materials
Hi AramisDeVannes,
The muffler body size is more dependent on the area beneath the car that you have available to hang a muffler in. A full exhaust in a 2” diameter pipe consistently from front to rear would be a good choice for your application. Thank you for watching!
Thanks Summit for the great videos , great tech support and the awesome prices.
Hi Husam Abdulzahra,
Thank you! We appreciate your business. Let us know if you have any questions.
Hi Rob King,
Yes, if you have a pipe that is 2.5” O.D., than a 2.5” inlet on the tip you choose will be correct. You are also correct in your assumption that the tip will not affect the overall sound of your system providing the tip is open internally. In other words, as long as the tip has no baffling or packing of any type.
Hi IVIakeltHappen,
We apologize for the delayed response, your comment was flagged as spam and we did not notice until now. Can you supply the outside diameter of the pipe? Once we get the outside diameter, we can find an exhaust tip for your vehicle. Thanks for watching!
There needs to be other ways to connect butt joints. I have used that butt joint band clamp before and they leak. Now I just put a smaller pipe inside both butt ends and clamp them. I use about 4 different sets of mufflers on my mustang with the same catback pipes. Just wish there was a easy way to change out mufflers using a butt joint band clamp that actually seals and does not leak. Leaky mufflers sounds horrible.
How these works with motorcycle exhausts if you wanna expand pipes length with these?
In the industry, exhaust pipe is measured on the outside diameter while mufflers are measured internally. That way the mufflers will slip over the pipes for best seal. There are also adapters available if you decide to jump up to 3 inch. Give us a call on our tech line and we can assist you in picking out the correct parts. 1-330-630-0240. Thanks for watching!
Hi desertfox2020,
Exhaust tips and mufflers are designed to slide over top of exhaust pipe. You just need a short piece of 2.5” pipe and some clamps to mate the two together.
What type system would be best and practical for this vehicle
John, a 3” diameter pipe will do just fine on your truck even with some mild upgrades like an air intake and a programmer. Your flow increase will come from the aftermarket muffler and number/size of tailpipes you choose!
I just finished building a straight pipe system for my MK7 Golf. one thing to look out for, mandrel bends are not 100%. better than crushed bends be far, but it has some ovality as will as in consistent wall thickness
Hi Muddybowtie,
By running that free flowing muffler and just dumping it at the axle, yes, you may lose some low end torque. Consider having the vehicle’s computer tuned locally while be run on a chassis dyno!
So my muffler is 2.25" od and need to fit the exhaust pipe. So the reducer to fit in the muffler would be a 2.25" id? ...
So the (id) gonna be same size as yhe (od) size?
On a lap joint...what if you used a high temp silicone in the lap to seal the exhuast would there still be a leak?
If I have exhaust pipe with 2.50 OD would I get an exhaust tip with an inlet of 2.50" for it to slip over the pipe?
Very informative presentation of pipes and clamps and welding the exhaust pipes so no air leakage.
The speaker was clear and communative in giving options to connecting ends.
But what is the standard size for a exhaust pipe? Under 3inches?
Summit, I have purchased a few things like an LS camshaft that this engine is going into my 67 C10. I like the “V” band clamps that came with my SS headers and harvested the 300 series pre-cat pipe to hook up to the new system of dual that came on the truck. My question is even though I bought a new MIG in 1984, it still works fine. The “V” band clamps are a little challenging for my elbows and dealer techs like me have used factory parts for decades. I like the band clamps that extend over the joints about 1 1/2” I would guess and not distort the pipes. I am thinking longterm serviceable and as you said had “Some Leakage” due to the design and nature of the clamp. Is it minimal leakage as I am not looking for Buick Park Ave sound quality?
I am looking at long term service. Hell, Chip Foose has found high-temp o-rings that move with the expansion and contraction of the exhaust he used on “Impressions” car he built. Having a surprise 5 disc lumbar fusion in June 2020 freaks me out because I have no idea for future limitations at 6’3” tall going forward on my pickup.
I have researched and the wrap-a-round clamp looks like the best engineering solution compared to “V” bands which I still have a off-frame type access. Thanks for all of your quick subject videos.
ASE Master Tech since 1978 - Retired but not done! Thanks.
Hi Dean,
Thank you for watching.
Other than v-band clamps, most exhaust clamps will have a minimal (usually not even noticeable) amount of leakage.
The band clamps you are referring to are a good alternative to running v-bands. There likely will not be any “audible” signs of leakage when installed properly.
Hi, as many of the comments, I need help. I want to put a glasspack on my 2004 Chevy Silverado. The exhaust pipe on the truck is 2 3/4 inch, stock. The problem is that there are no glasspacks made for 2 3/4 inch exhaust. Should I get a 3 inch or 2.5 inch glasspack for the truck? I will have to attach with adapters. I dont want to lose too much back pressure but also dont want to restrain the engine with a 2.5 inch. Help?? Thanks.
That really was very helpful information.
Thank you for watching, Richard. We are glad we could help.
Tried both. Butt connected pipe to muffler with a band clamp. Leaked horribly. Tried to expand a pipe to fit over a muffler. Expander split in the middle. No luck
Okay im a little confused. The exhaust tubing on my truck is 2.5" on the outer dimension. The exhaust I want is 2.5" inner dimension. So the exhaust will slip over the pipe on my truck from the catback? So all i need is a 2.5" Lap joint band clamp to secure it and im good to go? Now, also What would I have to do if I was to get the muffler thats 3" inner dimension? Sorry for the confusing question, any help I appreciate it!
can you connect a 2 3/4 inch pipe to a 3 inch pipe
I have a 2001 daewoo lanos that i just got straight piped. the tailpipe is about 4 inches back from the bumper so you cant see anything. I wanna get an exhaust tip but have no idea what size inlet i need to get. and also if you get a clamp on thats lets say an inch bigger than the tailpipe diameter, could it still fit? Im kindve confused about what sizes to get for weld/bolt ons
Well, you mention “Cat-Back” so I’m assuming you have to run a catalytic converter; that being said, with that size motor and potential horsepower run a 2.25” Y-pipe to your Catalytic converter and then a 3” Cat-Back system
Hi awesome vid! Any fitting vids on those clamp? Also would the over lap joint work on the exhaust tips? What size would I need for the 2.25inch pipe? Thanks
I'm trying to change the exhaust on my car. This is my first time to I have so many questions, my car has a small pipe the exit on my cat is 1 7/8 and the exhaust system is 2.5 is it okay to use an adapter and weld the seams? I don't really know of any other ways to connect it.
If I have 2.5" true duals would I need to get 2.5" inlet tips? Also does the tip length affect the sound much. I was thinking 2.5" inlet x 4" outlet x 16" or 18" length
So if I have an application where the tips go directly on to the end of the muffler, do I need to get tips with an inner diameter that's more than the size of the muffler outlet? For example I want to use an SLP Powerflo muffler with a 2.5 inlet/outlet. What inlet size do I need for the tip? I have tips with 2.5 inlet laying around and they do not fit.
Great video!. My car is a 2000 camry 4 cyl and I was wondering what size is the best size for my catback exhaust pipe. Assuming the original diameter of the pipe is 2 inches, do you think I will get more pronounced sound open the catback exhaust pipe to 2 and a quarter inches. I currently have a 2.25 magnaflow muffler on my car and I just need to know if bigger pipe size equals to more sound and hp. Thank you very much.
what do you do if you have an aftermarket muffler input that is larger than the pipe on your car?
Return and buy the correct muffler
Part stores sell a adapter to take pipe from one size to another
If I'm trying to swap in a catless pipe for a cat, is the butt joint band clamp a viable option or will vibrations from driving loosen them?
If I install a Cherry Bomb Vortex muffler onto my 2013 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3L, will I lose any power?
What clamp did u use ??
This was extremely helpful, thanks
I have the L33 5.3L in my Silverado. WIthin the next month I plan on buying the Dynomax Bullet from y'all with the case length- 12", overall length- 16.5", inlet/outlet- 3", and putting a 9" turndown with a 3" inlet/outlet as well on it. Could you tell me if you think that would hurt my low end power at all? If it makes any difference, the only other mods I have on it are the Vortec PowerCore CAI and a Vortec throttle body spacer.
I'd like to know the advantages and disadvantages of side pipes (off header pipe and headers that run out the side) vs rear exit pipe, if you guys have time and haven't already made that video. I can't find it if you did. These videos are great, thanks for the help.
Great video, these butt joints is what I need 👍🏼
Hi Portland581,
We are sorry to say that we are unaware of any circular three chambered mufflers. Good luck!
I have a 2018 acura tlx aspec & wanted to know if I can run 2.5 inch piping all the way back, keep in mind my own exhaust is 2.25 I have mufflers & resonators deleted & the mid muffer which is 2.5 inch will be a cherrybomb extreme so in essence I want it all to be 2.5 inches, is this possible?
Yes, you can run the larger 2.5 exhaust with the 290 HP V6. You may see a slight reduction in bottom end torque but improved top end HP.
@@SummitRacing Thx for info
Hey summit I wanted to replace my current exhaust can as it is damages and found a nice universal muffler exhaust only issue is that the inlet diameter is 2.5” and all my piping from the end of my y-pipe back is 3” and wanted to know if enlarging the inlet on this muffler exhaust would be a good idea or not cause as I don’t know if it’ll cause a choke or restriction or not cause any restriction at all. My car is an 07 Nissan 350z.
that taught me a lot
thanks for the video
Thank you for watching, Jackie!
Hoping you can help me I have 2 inch exhaust pipes stock. I want to straight pipe my car. The problem is I don't know what size I need to get for the lap joint band clamps. I am assuming I need a 2 inch one but what is the size difference in the two ends of the band clamps. Would I put a 2 inch pipe on one side and a bigger pipe on the other or can I use two 2 inch pipes
+Dominick Savage ,
A band clamp for a “lap-joint” is for a 2” pipe on one side and an expanded 2” pipe to slip over that. If you were to just butt two 2” pipe up together, then you would use a 2“ “butt-joint” clamp.
Thank You!!!
does it matter which side of the pipe gets expanded to convert a butt joint into a lap? (in terms of exhaust flow from the engine.)
We would say you want the downstream pipe fitting over the upstream pipe!
@@SummitRacing thanks!!
Hello need a bit of help. I have a 1995 suburban with the 5.7 I am looking for a true dual exhaust system. I have my eyes on one in summit it's the dynomax dual kit 89003. I believe my trucks pipe diameter is 2.5 but the one at summit is 2.250 will this be a major problem?
+thadd brailsord ,
Sorry, but this kit is not designed for nor will it fit your 1995 Suburban. Since your truck was factory equipped with a catalytic converter, any systems for your truck will have dual tail pipes, but not true dual.
I have a 1.5cc 4 cylinder 12 valve carburater engine. what muffler size should I use? Also, does it need to be same size as the exhaust pipe? (the whole piece connecting from the front to the muffler)
I ordered summit headers an summit street an about to order strip mufflers for my 1995 k1500. The headers are 2.5 should I run 2.5 all the way back an will exhaust tips change the sound. I want a deep throaty sound
Hi Virgil Hartley,
Would you mind giving our tech department a call? 1-330-630-0240. We would like to make sure we understand what you are asking. We look forward to your call. Thanks for watching!
Mine worked great thanks
I have two 3" exhaust pipes that are about 1.5" apart from one another. Can I use the butt joint band clamp to connect them even though there is a slight gap?
Thanks!
alden regimbal Gap is too big
Tank you gracias
Hi summit racing, I have a 2011 genesis coupe 2.0t 210hp it currently has a straight 3"pipe with a muffler at the end, but i feel the car looses torque or hp. What size of exhaust is the best option for my car, thanks
JOHAN MACIAS,
Sounds like you’ve noticed this power loss since the addition of the exhaust. It is common to lean out a turbo car once the exhaust is freed up. Look into some tuning for the computer, there is where your new found power will be!
Summit Racing Hi, thanks a lot for the responce. Do you sale any tuning for that car? and if not do you recomend any in specific? thanks
So, I have a 2.4L 4 cylinder and I want to run a 2.25" inlet/outlet high flow cat, to a 2.5" inlet/outlet aeroturbine resonator out to a 3" pipe (not muffler). Would the 3" muffler/pipe cause low end torque loss? Would I retain power/torque by using a 2.5" muffler or a 2.5" pipe instead of 3"? Would a muffler be better than using just a pipe from the resonator?
Hi KapitolTV,
By allowing the exhaust gases too much expansion area, you slow its velocity thus losing the scavenging effect that cleanses each cylinder for the next “Clean burn”! Using a muffler or not is really up to you and the sound you are trying to achieve, but it is not suggested in your situation to use a 3” pipe diameter at all.
Summit Racing Ok. Thanks!
I need a 2.5 diameter band clamp but it needs to be 4" wide. Do you have that?
I need a 3" to 2.5 " joint clamp,I cant seem to find one???
Unfortunately, none of our manufacturers offer that size. You would have to use a 3” to 2.5” exhaust reducer and two clamps.
@@SummitRacing does the reducer have to both go over both the pipes? Or can one end go over the pipe and the other end go into another pipe? Cause my stock exhaust pipes are 2.25 and the muffler pipe I bought is 3.25
If your exhaust pipe is 2.5 od and tip is 2.5 od a muffler shop can expand or shrink the pipe enough to slide in and connect and weld it shut. Clamps should only really be used on tips. Anywhere else on the system you still get leaks and it will go into your vehicle! Had a flowmaster outlaw installed on my challenger every clamp leaked. So the shop welded every seam shut and looked a lot better then seen clamp bolts poking out!
I recently bought a 2.25in glass pack for my 3.4l Impala I was wondering what size muffler tip do i need to connect it ?
Hi Wais,
Once the exhaust pulses make it all the way through the pipes and muffler, tip size will have little to no effect on performance.
+Summit Racing ok thanks
2.25 OD
Thanks! I appreciate it!
my truck has 2.75 pipes is there any way i can put 3" tips?
yes. any exhaust shop can do this no problems
+Jorge Reyes ,
Below is a link to a couple of tips we carry with a 2.75” inlet to a 3” outlet.
www.summitracing.com/search/department/exhaust/section/exhaust-tips/part-type/exhaust-tips/inlet-diameter-in/2-750-in/tip-outlet-size/3-000-in?N=4294948820%2B4294918632%2B4294918633%2B4294900372%2B4294918672&SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Ascending
Goog information cordovaautocenters. Gracias
will that tube expander work on 409 stainless steel piping?
+cent dp,
Due to the rigidity of 409 it may be better to seek the assistance of an exhaust shop with a hydraulic bender/expander.
ok awesome thank you, I've been thinking of getting a set of your lap joint band clamps. But wasn't totally clear on the measures.
For example with the 2.5" clamp , is the 2.5" the bigger side of the clamp? I'm adding them to my mustang exhaust where the midpipe and aftermarket cat meet. The cat is a 2.5" ID and the pipe in the cat is a 2.5 OD.
So, if I have a 2.5 OD can a 2.5 ID GO INSIDE THE 2.5 OD? Also if I have a 2.5 OD CONNECTING A 2.5 OD what size butt joint clamp would I need?
2.5 ID butt joint clamp
if you need the the clamp,clickign the link
www.amazon.com/dp/B076J5HSNJ
nice video
So if my ram is 2.5 what size glass pack do i need
Hi blake dog,
Exhaust pipe is measured on the outside and mufflers on the inside. So, you would order a 2.5” muffler and it will slip over the pipe, then add a clamp to secure.
Thanks a lot!
I have a v band flange that is 4in od. what v band clamp would fit it?
+The Guy With No Grammer,
Unless this is for some type of OE connection, it’s important to know what inside angle your clamp uses. This would be the angle on both parts that ultimately pulls the connection together tightly as you tighten the clamp. Most times this is the reason both sides of the connection and a clamp are all sold in a kit to ensure a proper match.
what is the length of the exhaust pipe in truck
Dumb generic questions get dumb generic answers. So, You get this for your answer: Enough pipe to fit it.
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What Is ID size for 1 7/8? 🙅
+Dungeons Dragons,
That would depend upon the wall thickness of the tubing you are measuring!
I got it but thank. It was for a Fiero The guy I bought the exhaust system off of cut it right behind the muffler making it a challenge to put clamps on it talk about a close quarters LOL
“This one time, at Band Clamp….”
Use more pipe instead of technical terms to explain connections.
this one time at band clamp...
Just don't try this expander on a flowmaster muffler to expand it even a few centimeters, this expanders threads stripped before working & took a big o shit right on my project forcing me to abandon my idea and visit a muffler shop..Total waste of cash, sit'n in my trash!
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What's up with the 1980s porn music?
Informative.
But let me guess....guy is from the Sales Department.
(Wonder when he last got grease under his finger nails.)
Very "salesy."
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